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  As we begin things here on this Monday night, I want to welcome you back into the program.
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  I hope you had a great weekend.
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  And I also want to remember Pearl Harbor.
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  That day was December 7th, 1941.
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  Yesterday on Sunday was 84 years.
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  I didn't have an opportunity to talk about it Friday night, but I did want to bring it up because it is a day that will live an infamy, according to Franklin Delanore Roosevelt.
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  Those were the words that he said.
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  And really, that is what happened to make America a great country.
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  World War II, World War I, it was a success, but we were a part of it.
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  World War II was won because we were the part of it.
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  And I think it's important to not forget those men that died there.
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  I think there was over 3,000 that died at Pearl Harbor.
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  That was December 7th, 1941.
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  But here we are on a Monday night.
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  As always with Monday, we have Matt Palumbo, and he is here to join us again two nights in a row.
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  He was here Friday night.
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  Matt, I hope you had a great weekend.
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  You too.
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  Good to be back so soon.
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  Yeah, I did have a good weekend.
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  And you know, uh we can't forget things like our American history, including that of Pearl Harbor, and there's so many other things.
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  I put a post out about George Washington over the weekend on uh on uh Twitter, and I don't know if you saw that post, but it it's really interesting the character and the honor of the men, the politicians of the founders that existed back then.
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  And it doesn't really seem when you look at politicians and leaders these days, it doesn't really seem like we have that quality of human being anymore, does it?
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  Well, no, we're attracting theater kids in T and sort of want to be reality TV stars to politics.
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  It's all one big circus.
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  And there is a few years ago, there's a Democrat freshman who admitted in an interview that a lot of these people we see in politics who, you know, they make all those they'll be featured in these viral clips on social media of them schooling someone during a hearing and uh doing all the show boating.
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  And yet when they have closed door hearings, those same people are just a very completely mellowed normal version who asked good faith questions, you know, implying that when it's public, it's all for show.
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  It's not to actually improve the country, it's all for themselves.
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  And it's all uh like even people like you know, Jasmine Crockett, it's enabled because she ran in a district that's like plus 60 Democrats, and she's gonna lose her seat soon.
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  So it's you know, it it's it's all it's all people who can only win because the deck is already kind of rigged in their favor, and they add really nothing, but just they just distract us from uh actual dialogue and actually getting things done.
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  And we're gonna talk about gerrymandering here in this hour and the decision that was made by SCOTUS on Thursday because that is what you're talking about when you're talking about Jasmine Crockett, possibly losing her seat.
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  I'm gonna read what I wrote over the weekend, and this is really about George Washington, and I'll get to it.
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  I really wasn't planning on doing this, but it kind of just hit me.
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  Let's go ahead and do this.
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  In 1783, King George III asked an American painter what George Washington would do now that he had virtually won the war.
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  The painter replied that the general intended to return to his farm in Virginia.
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  The king, he was stunned.
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  He reportedly said, if he does that, he will be the greatest man in the world.
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  Throughout history, victorious generals almost always seized the throne.
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  From Caesar to Cromwell, military success usually meant political dictatorship.
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  The concept of voluntarily walking away from absolute power was practically unheard of.
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  But George Washington wasn't like other men.
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  By December 4th, 1783, the British surrender at Yorktown was passed, and peace was finally assured.
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  Washington commanded a powerful, seasoned army that adored him.
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  Conversely, many of his officers were unpaid and angry at the inefficient Congress.
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  They had the guns, the manpower, and the loyalty to install a new monarch.
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  He could have been King George One of America.
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  Instead, on this day in history, Washington walked into the long room at Francis Tavern in Lower Manhattan.
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  The room was filled with his most loyal officers, men like Henry Knox and Baron von Steuben, who had frozen with him at Valley Forge and bled with him for eight long years.
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  The atmosphere wasn't celebratory.
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  It was heavy with inevitable separation.
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  Washington, usually stoic and commercially reserved, poured a glass of wine and looked at his brothers in arms with visible emotion.
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  Quote, he said this, quote, with a heart full of love and gratitude, I now take leave of you.
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  He said, his voice was shaking.
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  Quote, I most devoutly wish that your latter days may be as prosperous and happy as your former ones have been glorious and honorable.
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  He didn't order them.
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  He didn't demand their allegiance.
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  He hugged them.
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  One by one, the hardened soldiers wept openly.
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  Washington embraced each man in silence.
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  There was no pomp, no ceremony, no speeches about future conquest.
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  It was just quiet goodbye between warriors who had done the impossible.
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  Immediately after leaving the tavern, Washington didn't march onto Congress to demand payment or power.
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  He rode to Annapolis, Maryland, resigned his commission, and went home to Mount Vernon to plant crops.
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  He did the impossible.
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  And a lot of that came from Mount Vernon ladies and also uh the Library of Congress.
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  And Matt, we don't have leaders like that anymore, do we?
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  The man of honor.
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  It doesn't seem like they fill the halls of Congress or even the executive branch of the White House.
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  Uh yeah, no one really comes to mind, that's for sure.
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  Uh even among people will be like there's no one to that extent.
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  No.
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  They don't make it like that anymore.
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  And unfortunately, I I don't know that America can really come back until we start having honor and character among our leaders.
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  But this is what I intended to talk about here in this first segment.
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  And that's sort of a report card on Donald Trump and how you think he's doing so far.
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  When you look at the 10 months that he has been in uh his second term, he has successfully closed the border.
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  You have to give him an A plus on that.
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  That's what he ran on.
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  That's what he did.
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  And then he's going to deport people.
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  That was another part of his campaign.
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  They are working on that.
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  They have been tried to be stopped at every uh opportunity the left can take.
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  They take it.
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  And it can be better on that front.
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  And when it comes to the economy, the prices haven't really come down like he said they would, and I think the expectations were a little bit too high with that.
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  Overall, what do you think about Donald Trump so far?
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  I vote for him again if possible, which I know it's not, but uh no, the border was the reason I voted for him.
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  I would, you know, give him the A plus you gave him.
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  Um deportations, it's going very well.
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  It's just unfortunate that even if you do two to two and a half million a year, in one term, you've just broken even on the damage Joe Biden has been.
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  Or not even.
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  So it's not even real.
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  And then the thing is still Biden also allowed millions of people in here under temporary protected status, people who they claimed were fleeing violence, who, you know, probably were economic refugees, uh, but all this other people that really shouldn't have been here, or in the sort of quasi-legal status.
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  So you know, the minimum amount of people Biden let in was 10 million, I believe.
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  Yeah, I would think so.
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  Easily 20 or 30 million.
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  And I'm just going, speaking anecdotally, but before the Biden administration, I would never go out in public and hear five different languages, or at least what I think are five different languages of that one, I know, being spoken in a target or something.
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  And uh it's just very obvious that the composition of the country has changed, and I can look at you know the census data where I live and compare it to what I actually see outside, and it is a radical departure.
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  So either the numbers aren't capturing it correctly, um, or there's just been this surge immediately, or or something, the numbers are not aligning.
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  So my point being this is all progress, but it's sad to say that we're just could maybe break even on the damage Biden did in one term.
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  And if we don't get a Republican after Trump, or we get a wishy-washy one, it's very easily could be undone.
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  It's a lot harder to remove people than to put them in.
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  One thing that the Democrats are talking about, the Republicans are too.
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  You see Marjorie Taylor Green talking about that.
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  She was on 60 minutes.
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  I think a lot of her a lot of her frustration was the fact that you know we're not getting things done for the American people.
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  That's what she says.
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  And when it comes to the economy, I think the American people, a lot of American people are hurting.
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  The reports that I saw that when I did the research is one out of four Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
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  And Bank of America even says that number is 78%.
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  So that means about 22% of Americans are not really worried at the kitchen table, like most Americans are.
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  And wage growth hasn't been there yet.
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  We see a lot of jobs that are leaving.
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  And I think there's some questions there on the economy right now.
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  Where do you come in on that?
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  You know, it's the he overpromised on inflation and that you know you can make indiv a few individual things, you know, prices come down, like technology is a sector that is always getting more efficient, so prices there always come down because you've increased efficiency.
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  But for most goods, um, you know, with the exception of commodities, they generally are gonna be the same.
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  And it's not necessarily that the prices are gonna come down, it's just that you can have an economy where wage growth is higher than inflation.
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  So if inflation was one percent, but wages went up 10%, that's the same as prices going down 9% in terms of what you can buy with your money.
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  So that's where the progress is gonna be made.
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  It's gonna be it's gonna be wages rising, which they are, and not only are wages rising, you know.
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  Under Biden, they would always tout low unemployment and say out all these record job numbers, and I think most people felt like, well, how is this even real when none of us are experiencing it?
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  And it's because 100% of the net job growth under Joe Biden.
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  Once the people who are not born in this country, under under Trump, 100% of the net job gain has gone to people that were born in this country.
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  So it's you know, when you're comparing the economic statistics, even if um like even if they appear unchanged, well, the benefit that is happening is going to people that are actually born here and are not here illegally or were brought over on some dubious premise.
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  So that's another thing that's going very well in his favor.
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  Um the tariffs have been working very well for foreign policy goals.
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  I mean, personally, I'm not a big fan of them and would like a world with no tariffs, but I understand so would I, but I do like them.
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  I do like the way he's used them.
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  I I I like the way I actually friends are differently.
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  I don't like tariffs, you know, in general, but I understand that when other countries have them, you're put in this tit for tat situation where you have to pass them to balance them out.
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  And it's crazy we weren't already doing that.
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  So um, you know, I know other countries have lowered them in a response, some of them are gotten rid of them, so there's some progress there, but you know, hopefully that um yeah, we we see more progress there.
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  Um health care is one of those things where I know Marjorie Taylor Green was also saying, you know, we need to fix health care.
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  And I I hate to say it, but if if health care was fixable, I think it would have been done a very long time ago.
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  It's not gonna be something that's gonna be an easy fix.
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  Uh, it is gonna require a complete overhaul of the system that's gonna be extremely disruptive, have an enormous amount of debate going into it.
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  There's gonna be a ton of corporate uh influence in it.
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  Like it's gonna be something that takes many, many years.
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  It's not something you can just do by uh flicking your fingers, like a lot of people seem to think for some reason.
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  But you know, Matt, I have some frustration when it comes to health care, health insurance here from the from the Republican side, and the reason why is because all I have heard for 15 years is abolish Obamacare, and that's still what a lot of people in Congress say.
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  That doesn't solve the problem that health, yeah, that health insurance has gone up 150% over the last 15 years, while health care costs have only gone up 52%, and all other inflation has gone up 49%.
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  So I that's what's frustrating to me, and I don't know that that's going to translate to the midterm unless the Republicans come up with something other than just abolish what is there, and after 15 years, I haven't heard of a program that the Republicans have.
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  They have not offered a solution.
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  If they have, I've missed it.
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  Have they offered one?
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  No, and there's like a lot of tough conversations people need to have.
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  I mean, one is that 40%, almost half the cost of health here in this country is labor.
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  And uh you have to be a politician who gets up there and says, you know what?
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  I think doctors actually make too much money, and you know, their response is going to be, well, the cost of medical school is so high, blah, blah, blah.
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  But one of the reasons uh doctors make so much in this country is we artificially cap the number of doctors that can be admitted every year.
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  The American Medical Association acts as a cartel and limits how many doctors are allowed to go to med school and get licenses every year.
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  If it was just market demand, we'd have way more doctors, it would be way more competition, and the cost would be lower.
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  Um, another thing too is what you know, the reason a college is so expensive, and Trump actually has did a very good thing here in capping the amount of money you can borrow, and 50,000 a year.
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  There are a number of schools where if you look at their tuition they charge per year, you know, it'll be okay, 10 years ago, let's say it's 40 grand, five years ago, 50 grand, a year ago it's 75 grand.
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  The second Trump put that cap into place, a lot of those schools, their tuition went down to exactly 50,000.
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  So that was actually a very good policy.
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  Um, and you know, hey, maybe maybe you're gonna work for medical schools too, and and that they're notoriously expensive.
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  Um because I I think that is one part of the equation that never gets addressed is doctors make an enormous amount of money, medical school is way too expensive.
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  And hey, if medical school was cheaper, you could justify and had more doctors simultaneously, they would make less money and would not be thrilled by it, but they are making 10 times what they're making in many European countries.
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  So that's something to talk about.
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  Also, insurance because basically makes it so hospitals make up prices, and that I was telling you the other day that I got blood work done and it was out of network, and they tried to bill my insurance eight thousand dollars for it, which is absurd for any amount of money working.
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  They should have replaced your blood for eight grand.
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  So I know yeah, I know they're gonna they could have done a lot for eight grand.
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  So I I call them, and I'm you know, politely like, you know, I'm not paying this, but I'll pay cash.
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  What would I pay if I can just you know settle this now?
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  And they quoted me $300.
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  And I'm thinking, like, where else in the world can the the difference in price on anything be eight thousand dollars to three hundred?
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  Like if you were selling a car for eight thousand dollars and someone countered you at 300, you punch them in the face.
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  But that that was their first offer was 300.
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  And I'm like, all right, so the price was just made up.
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  Like the price they build my insurance, they were just trying to see what the like they could get away with.
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  Right.
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  And when you do that multiply by tens of millions, and then hundreds of millions of people, the the the in the industry is everything is getting overpaid for, and then it goes into health care premiums.
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  And people are pissed off at health insurance companies, and they definitely kind of created this third-party payer problem, but hospitals are the ones invoicing them for these crazy amounts too.
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  So it's everyone involved is guilty to some degree.
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  Well, and the insurance companies, they have netted about 375 billion dollars over those 15 years, and their revenue went from 245 billion to 1.1 trillion.
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  That's the top five insurance companies.
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  There is a real problem here with insurance with health care, and it's gonna be a problem going into the 2026 midterm unless someone comes up with something.
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  And I know right now that in the House of Representatives, they are working and they are negotiating on something to extend the Obamacare uh extended subsidies that end December 31st.
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  It seems like they have 35 or 36 Republicans, so they're gonna be able to pass that in the House, and then it's gonna go to the Senate, and this goes back to when the government was shut down and John Thune said we'll negotiate.
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  So this is the negotiation that and from what I hear that they're going to try to extend this for one year is all.
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  I think the Democrats had wanted three, but I think the Republicans that are going along with it are saying, okay, we'll extend it one year and we'll try to figure it out.
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  They're not gonna figure it out between now and then.
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  I don't know if that's a ploy to get everybody quit thinking about it before the 26 midterm next November.
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  I'm not sure what that is.
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  While we're here and and while you're go ahead, I'm sorry.
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  I was gonna say the subsidies don't actually solve anything, they just mask the problem of the cost by giving you your own money back, you know, your own tax others back on your health insurance, but you're you're paying for it regardless.
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  It's just a redistribution.
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  But the the you know, then the problem is the costs are out of control.
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  And if you take a hundred bucks a month off the cost with tax dollars, it's still cost that amount.
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  You're just kind of hiding it.
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  Well, let's stay here.
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  Let's keep talking about Trump and how we think he has done so far and what it's gonna mean to the 2026 midterm, especially coming off last Tuesday in that special election in Tennessee.
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  I'm Booker Scout alongside Matt Palumbo here.
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  You can see him Monday nights at 6 30 with Carl Higby.
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• 22:26
  So Matt, let's stay here on uh Donald Trump and how we think he's doing so far.
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  I think ultimately he has done a good job.
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  The problem is his words and the expectations that his words bring have not matched what people are feeling at the kitchen table yet.
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  And I think that there is nothing really that the Republicans have to energize their base.
• 22:51
  And I think we saw that Tuesday in the special election in Tennessee.
• 22:56
  Yeah, it was depressing.
• 22:57
  You know, and the woman who lost, the crazy woman who hates their own constituency was spinning her losses saying, Well, you know, I moved the 15 points to the left, the electorate, and people were making fun of her.
• 23:10
  But the thing is, uh, she's sort of right in that silver lining for her, and then if that holds nationally, we are getting destroyed.
• 23:19
  Uh if we have the same turnout we had last month, too.
• 23:23
  Uh the gubernatorial elections, uh, the special basically every election that we had in school boards.
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  It's swung double digits in Democrats favor in a lot of places.
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  And yeah, it the Trump effect is real.
• 23:36
  Like a lot of the move to the right, the historic shifts we've seen among Hispanics, black voters, etc., they weren't shifts to the Republican Party.
• 23:44
  They were shifts to Donald Trump.
• 23:45
  And Donald Trump is not a traditional Republican.
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  In fact, 15 years ago, the establishment would have been calling him a rhino.
• 23:54
  Um, and I mean, I guess technically.
• 23:56
  Well, they would have called him a Democrat is what they would have called it 15 years ago.
• 24:00
  They would have been right to call him a rhino, but it's that that because that version of Republicanism at the time was completely useless.
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  I mean, it was like being a rhino in the Trump sense compared to George W.
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  Bush or Paul Ryan is a compliment.
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  So that's what I mean by that.
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  But his sort of unique brand of Republicanism is not every single Republican.
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  And it's, you know, he was a figure.
• 24:23
  It's very easy to rally people around as opposed to people that are in racist where, you know, listen, we're in a country where most people don't even know who their representative is.
• 24:31
  That's right.
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  Unfortunately.
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  So it's much harder to rally people around somebody who's faceless.
• 24:36
  And the Dem Democrats, you know, I think they're setting up health care affordability as the big things.
• 24:43
  And for the Republicans, I don't know that the Republicans have what they normally have to run on, which is abortions and illegal immigration.
• 24:51
  And uh, you know, both of those things that energize the base, they're pretty quiet right now.
• 24:55
  The abortion issues gone back to the states, and illegal immigration seems to be under control right now as we continue to try to deport people.
• 25:03
  Scott Besent, the Treasury Secretary was on Face the Nation on Sunday.
• 25:08
  He was asked uh about this inflation and the cost of things and affordability and the things that Donald Trump has done, including the tariffs that Matt was just talking about.
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  Here is that exchange on Face the Nation with Scott Besent.
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  Mr.
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  Secretary, a lot of people are out there holiday shopping.
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  Here is how the president described back in April what to expect from this season.
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  Maybe the children will have two dolls instead of 30 dollars, you know.
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  And maybe the two dolls will cost a couple of bucks more than they would normally.
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  Was the president's prediction then correct?
• 25:40
  Uh Margaret, it's actually been a very strong holiday season.
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  And they, you know, we've seen across the all the income cohorts thus far.
• 25:49
  And so there's nothing to say that they're two dollars instead of 30 dollars.
• 25:53
  The president was wrong to predict lower numbers of purchases and higher prices.
• 25:59
  The economy's been better than we thought.
• 26:00
  We've had the uh four four percent GDP growth in a couple of quarters.
• 26:05
  We're gonna finish the year despite the Schumer shutdown with three percent real GDP growth.
• 26:11
  Well, the maker of Tonka trucks, their CEO said it's gonna cost 40 bucks for their toys right now because of tariffs and inflation.
• 26:19
  It was 30 year thoughts the year before that 25.
• 26:22
  Prices in the toy space are accelerating, and and people are feeling that.
• 26:27
  Well, Margaret, you know, inflation's a composite number, and it's roughly the same year over year.
• 26:33
  And you know, if we were to look at all imported goods, imported goods, inflation is below the inflation number.
• 26:41
  The inflation number, you mean it's the the PC, the PCE number, which is about 2.9% uh imported goods and poison is about 1.8.
• 26:50
  It's the service economy that's generating inflation, which actually has nothing to do with tariffs.
• 26:56
  I find it interesting that the inflation number that he used there was only 1.8%.
• 27:02
  I remember back when the tariff talk started, a lot of people thought that inflation would get up to five percent.
• 27:09
  It hasn't done that.
• 27:10
  It's been at 2.7, 2.9%.
• 27:13
  GDP has been at four, as he mentioned there, and I think they're expecting one and a half to two percent because of the government shutdown for Q4.
• 27:21
  I think that's why he brought it down to three.
• 27:23
  But if you remember back to Joe Biden's presidency, I think he had one quarter in the entire four years that was over three percent of GDP.
• 27:32
  Yeah.
• 27:33
  Well, under him, too.
• 27:34
  There was there was, I think it was 14 months straight where the jobs numbers had to be revised downward.
• 27:40
  Is the last year in office, there was basically there's over a million jobs that were.
• 27:45
  I mean, I say they're just completely made up because you know, listen, the job numbers almost always get revised, and they either have to get revised up or down.
• 27:53
  And if you flip a coin 12 times, the odds of you know getting 12 heads or 12 hittails in a row is is pretty low.
• 28:02
  And that's basically what happened there.
• 28:04
  If we're gonna believe it's a random chance, which I don't think it is.
• 28:06
  I think they were trying to cook the books ahead of an election, uh, and no one really felt what was happening, and and it failed, fortunately.
• 28:14
  But yeah, no, the the Biden economy was it was a disaster.
• 28:17
  So, yes, these numbers are a huge improvement.
• 28:20
  It is funny that Democrats, the the thing they've chose to focus on when it comes to inflation is our toys cost too much.
• 28:27
  I just thought that was an odd so it's not like no Tonka trucks or like even health care, like we're just talking about like no a Tonka truck is too much.
• 28:34
  Very odd.
• 28:35
  I have a Tonka truck that I got in I do in 1969.
• 28:39
  I got that Tonka truck, and I still have it.
• 28:42
  It's real metal.
• 28:43
  I used to ride on the thing.
• 28:44
  I just destroyed it, but it's still in pretty decent shape for a 1969 uh truck.
• 28:50
  And I think it has a little bit of value, probably more than the 40 bucks that she was talking about.
• 28:55
  Let's go to the J6 Pipe Bomber real quick.
• 28:58
  We talked about that Friday night, but let's get into it a little bit more because there is some more information.
• 29:03
  Let's start here with CNN and their reporting.
• 29:05
  This is going to be some reporting on the shooting that took place in the Black Rock building in Manhattan.
• 29:11
  And this was also the building where the NFL is housed.
• 29:14
  If you remember, there was a shooting there.
• 29:16
  There was a mass shooting.
• 29:18
  Here is where that starts, and then we're going to go to Jake Tapper and how he describes what hap what this J6 bomber is.
• 29:25
  Here we go with CNN.
• 29:26
  Don't reporting that they do know the fate what they looks like.
• 29:29
  Uh male, possibly white mustache, sunglasses in that building, isolated to they believe a 30-year-old white man from the a 30 year old white man from the 30-year-old white man from the white man from the D a 30 year old white man from the 30 year old white man.
• 29:44
  Okay, so CNN did it again.
• 29:45
  Jake Tapper did it this time.
• 29:47
  He said a 30 year old white man when the guy Brian Cole Jr.
• 29:51
  is clearly black, and I don't know that it even matters, but evidently his family is pretty radical and activist on the Democrat side.
• 29:59
  Typically
• 30:00
  CNN would also add the white guy that's a Trump supporter.
• 30:03
  They didn't say a Trump supporter in this case, which I it may be the first time ever.
• 30:07
  What do we know about this uh situation with the the pipe bomb?
• 30:11
  It took five years to solve almost.
• 30:14
  I guess it sounds like all of the evidence was always sitting there.
• 30:17
  There is some talk that maybe the technology got to a point now when a new team came in there and looked at it and triangulated all of the information, the data, they were able to narrow it down on this guy.
• 30:29
  I'm not sure.
• 30:30
  What are your thoughts on it?
• 30:31
  Well, it could be the case of the Biden administration figuring out who he was and what his background was as you described the leftist, and then realize well, this goes counter-narrative to everything we're saying, so we don't want this to get out.
• 30:43
  It is notable that Kamala Harris, they were saying she almost got murdered by this guy.
• 30:48
  Did she tweet afterwards?
• 30:50
  Thank God for Trump's FBI for Kylie or finally catching this guy who almost got a lot of people.
• 30:54
  Of course not.
• 30:56
  Of course not.
• 30:57
  So I think it's one possibility that would make sense would be they knew they I don't know, somehow it corrupted the evidence, or at least shelved it when Trump took over, and then it took time to put the pieces together, right?
• 31:10
  I mean, I will say I have no reason to doubt yet at least that this is the guy.
• 31:16
  It is a bit odd, though, that the timing was right after the blaze's expose that turned out to be not true.
• 31:23
  But it's you know, when people thought it was true, it looked made the FBI look bad because people were thinking how the hell did the Blaze figure this out before the FBI?
• 31:31
  Turns out they didn't, but it it gave that impression, and then this happened right after.
• 31:36
  So I you know, I don't know if this was just one big coincidence where the FBI was right at you know, right after figure it out as the Blaze also pushed this report or what.
• 31:45
  But I you know, I I I totally get why people think the timing is suspicious.
• 31:49
  Right.
• 31:50
  And from what I understand, what the FBI is saying anyway, this new team to come in and look at this, they had been there a little while more than since the Blaze came out with that reporting.
• 32:00
  Yeah, I'll have to trust what they are saying.
• 32:02
  I would think that it would take longer than a couple of weeks to get to this point and uh arrest him and have the search warrants and everything else that they had.
• 32:09
  But good job by the FBI.
• 32:11
  Let's say that it was a good job.
• 32:13
  It took nine months, and I saw one Democrat said, Well, it took Trump forever to get it.
• 32:17
  Well, Joe Biden had it for four years and didn't do anything.
• 32:20
  So again, it's just a Democrat, a politician being stupid.
• 32:24
  Again, we have we have no men of honor.
• 32:26
  People just can't be happy.
• 32:27
  They'll be like, You're telling me it takes nine months to figure this out.
• 32:31
  And I'm like, I I guess.
• 32:32
  I mean, how would you know?
• 32:33
  You people say this like as if they used to work for the FBI, and it's like, no, actually, it should take two months.
• 32:38
  Like, no one, no one has any idea how long this stuff takes.
• 32:41
  No, they watch they watch too much CSI.
• 32:43
  They think it gets done in an hour, and they just take it to a forensic lab and everything is done.
• 32:48
  Let's stay here on Donald Trump a little bit longer here in this segment, and specifically about the the national security strategy that came out on Thursday, because to me it hit me a little bit odd.
• 32:59
  And now the security strategy is something that typically comes out about once every four years, about once during a president's term.
• 33:08
  They'll come out and it's sort of a 30,000 foot view of this is our policy and our strategy around the world.
• 33:16
  Did you have an opportunity to read that?
• 33:18
  No, but I will have an opportunity to hear your summary in it.
• 33:22
  Well, it it's it's more it did not mention China, which I thought was really, really odd because Joe Biden's did.
• 33:30
  He talked about China and Russia, and in John Trump's, he uh did talk about Ukraine and ending that war, but most of it was about the Western hemisphere, which was really interesting.
• 33:41
  It was more it read more like the Monroe Doctrine than anything else, because I think that China is America's number one adversary.
• 33:49
  I don't think many people would disagree with that.
• 33:52
  But in this 33-page paper, uh he's talking about global warming and American energy dominance, and he's talking about the uh Western civil uh Western civilization and western side of the world, meaning places like Venezuela.
• 34:08
  It's uh you know, and so I I don't know what this means for the national defense.
• 34:14
  We have a lot going on in Venezuela, and we're gonna get to that here in the third segment.
• 34:18
  But the document appears to be in keeping with the foreign policy objectives in his second term so far, and uh reducing migration, pushing for a strong industrial base, and deploying the military to the Caribbean.
• 34:30
  All of those things are included in this, but China isn't.
• 34:33
  Do you find that odd at all?
• 34:36
  Oh, well, they definitely should be in that they are clearly a direct threat and that they are buying up farmland around a military basis.
• 34:42
  There's a huge problem where Chinese visa students are being used as spies, and Trump has actually defended uh keeping Chinese students here under the basis that, well, a lot of colleges might go out of business if we get rid of them.
• 34:57
  And I'm thinking that's that's also an argument in paper of getting rid of them.
• 35:00
  Like it's a bunch of people who hate Trump would lose their jobs if we got rid of them.
• 35:03
  So I I don't know.
• 35:04
  It's gonna be uh pretty much a good thing.
• 35:06
  Um I don't know, it's another disappointing I'll say.
• 35:08
  It went on to say that the U.S.
• 35:10
  would deny countries not in the region the ability to position forces or other threatening capabilities or to own or control strategic strategically vital assets, and that Washington would seek to enlist and expand its influence in the region.
• 35:27
  So I think that's really maybe addresses a little bit of China there, especially when it comes to owning land and having assets, whether it be in Canada or in Mexico, either one of those.
• 35:37
  So maybe that does, and then it also again talks about uh the Caribbean.
• 35:42
  It seems like it's very important to Trump.
• 35:44
  And I think that the other thing about Venezuela, which we're going to talk about here in a minute, is uh China and also Russia and how they influence what is going on there in Venezuela.
• 35:56
  There is a lot of rumblings about election interference being done through Venezuela into America, being done by China in the back of it.
• 36:05
  So I think what Donald Trump is doing strategically has a lot to do with China here, even though it's in Venezuela, and I don't know that it's much about Maduro or not.
• 36:15
  And I really had thought that we were really on the precipice of something happening a couple of weeks ago there, and we're still sitting here, and nothing has really happened, even though all of the military assets are down there.
• 36:27
  So we'll keep talking about this here in just a minute because I want to get into the narco boat and everything that's going on there in Venezuela.
• 36:35
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• 37:52
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• 37:58
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• 38:01
  Great to have you with us.
• 38:03
  It's hard to believe that it's almost Christmas.
• 38:05
  This year is just flying by, isn't it?
• 38:08
  We're already what almost halfway by the end of this week, we're halfway through December, and before you know it, 2026 is here.
• 38:15
  Let's talk about the narco boat here.
• 38:17
  Uh you know, Pete Hexeth, a lot was made of that.
• 38:22
  Was that a leak somewhere that he ordered that those those two survivors be killed and shot on September 2nd?
• 38:31
  Do you think that was some type of leak?
• 38:33
  Because it turns out that that's not what happened.
• 38:36
  He commented on it over the weekend at the Reagan Center in California.
• 38:40
  And then also Admiral uh Bradley in a skiff in the classified information.
• 38:47
  He said the same thing.
• 38:49
  So who got out in front of this story and said that that it was Pete Heggseth that ordered that those two guys be killed?
• 38:56
  Well, listen, all I'll say is that that actually is considered a war crime.
• 39:00
  It's got to be one of the sort of lamer war crimes there is in that.
• 39:05
  Some is joking, and they're like, you know, if you're a sniper, you only get one bullet.
• 39:09
  If you have to take two shots, the second one's a war crime.
• 39:11
  And I'm like, that does sort of apply here, and that these are people we are targeting to kill, and then it becomes a war crime when you try to kill them again.
• 39:21
  I don't know.
• 39:22
  It's just I I get there are rules of engagement.
• 39:24
  I'll just say that even if this is even if this was some horrible thing by the rules that Hegzeth did, I I honestly just don't care.
• 39:31
  Um, these are drug traffickers whose drugs would have killed thousands of Americans.
• 39:35
  So it wouldn't it have to be a war to begin with to Rand Paul's point?
• 39:40
  Also, that's also a big flaw in the logic here, yeah.
• 39:42
  It would have to be a war.
• 39:44
  Someone would have to declare a war for there to be a problem uh with a war.
• 39:49
  Uh let's go to this sound here.
• 39:51
  You heard a little bit of there.
• 39:52
  It was accidental.
• 39:53
  I didn't mean to play it then, but let's go to this.
• 39:56
  This is another CNN clip with Senator Tom Cotton from Arkansas.
• 40:00
  And they are discussing this very thing, the narco boat.
• 40:03
  Distressed.
• 40:03
  One guy took his t-shirt off like he was sunbathing.
• 40:06
  They were trying to get the boat back up and to continue their mission of spreading these drugs all across America.
• 40:11
  Did they get the bigger thing?
• 40:12
  That's what they were doing.
• 40:13
  And that's why Admiral Bradley ordered the second strike.
• 40:16
  He asked, did they get the boat back up?
• 40:18
  Did you hear that, Matt?
• 40:19
  The CNN.
• 40:20
  Yeah, he said.
• 40:22
  Did they get the boat back up?
• 40:24
  Here's Senator Tom Cotton's answer.
• 40:26
  I think it's great.
• 40:27
  Well, no, they didn't because we killed them, and we were right to kill them.
• 40:30
  Admiral Bradley was totally justified in a decision he made.
• 40:33
  A decision, by the way, that was broadcast on multiple secure screens at the Pentagon and Fort Bragg, and that hundreds of people watched in real time with probably dozens of JAG lawyers.
• 40:43
  So they're pretty well buttoned up.
• 40:45
  You have JAG lawyers there.
• 40:46
  You have the Admiral admitting that he uh said go ahead and do it, but he he didn't make that decision alone.
• 40:53
  I don't think there's anything wrong here at all, other than the Democrats and Rand Paul trying to find something to go after Donald Trump about.
• 40:59
  I think that's about all it is, don't you?
• 41:02
  Uh yeah, it's every scandal has been pretty much fabricated for the past, I don't know, ten years against Trump.
• 41:08
  You know, when I see something that looks damning, I'm just like, oh, wait about a day and this will go away because without fail every single time.
• 41:14
  Yeah, that's all you have to do is let the dust settle and everything is gonna be just fine.
• 41:18
  Did you happen to see that Chuck Schumer, who is complaining about this narco boat stuff going on, he actually voted yes in 1986 for the maritime law that specifically said they cannot allow these boats to bring drugs into America.
• 41:36
  The hypocrisy is amazing.
• 41:38
  But there's there were clips in the 90s talking about how they're illegal aliens defrauding social security and played it before stuff that is now crazy to say.
• 41:47
  So yeah, I played that clip before um of that.
• 41:50
  I've only heard it here with you, actually.
• 41:52
  Maybe, maybe.
• 41:52
  Here is uh here is this the it's the maritime drug law.
• 41:56
  This is 46 USC chapter 705.
• 42:00
  Congress finds and declares that trafficking in controlled substances aboard vessels is a serious international problem, is universally condemned and presents a specific threat to the security and societal well-being of the United States of America.
• 42:17
  That's the Maritime Drug Law Enforcement Act of 1986.
• 42:22
  Chuck Schumer voted yes for that.
• 42:25
  And by the way, I found this clip of Joe Biden a little bit before uh I guess it was after 86.
• 42:31
  This would have been about 93 or 94 when Joe Biden actually made sense.
• 42:35
  Listen to this.
• 42:36
  I support Joe Biden in this 100%.
• 42:39
  No wavering from me on what Joe Biden is about to say.
• 42:42
  We think we should do more to stem the flow of drugs across our borders.
• 42:46
  And we think we should go one step further.
• 42:49
  Let's go after the drug lords where they live with an international strike force.
• 42:55
  There must be no safe haven for these narco terrorists, and they must know it.
• 43:00
  They must know it.
• 43:02
  There should be no safe haven.
• 43:03
  That is the Democrat Joe Biden saying that, and Chuck Schumer was uh along with the maritime law in 1986.
• 43:10
  And now they have completely changed what they are, or they're just hypocrites.
• 43:15
  I'm not sure what it is.
• 43:16
  Do they just want power and control that much that they'll say and do anything?
• 43:20
  Well, it's like their programs or it's and then the code is just Trump's position, take the opposite.
• 43:25
  That's all they become.
• 43:27
  I think I don't know.
• 43:28
  It's sad because when you see these old clips, you I'm thinking, so you know what the truth is, and you know what like what the right thing to do is.
• 43:36
  Like there's no there's no deniability of oh, they're just misguided, blah, blah, blah.
• 43:42
  No, they they know what they what actually needs to be done, and they are voluntarily choosing to make life worse for all of us.
• 43:47
  Yeah, it makes no sense, does it?
• 43:49
  Yeah.
• 43:49
  Let's go on to the Supreme Court here, because there are a couple of things I want to talk about.
• 43:54
  First of all, the gerrymandering.
• 43:55
  We talked about it a little bit.
• 43:57
  You did.
• 43:57
  You dropped uh Jasmine Crockett's name, that she may lose her seat.
• 44:01
  Another one is uh green down there in Texas.
• 44:04
  He may lose his.
• 44:05
  So the Supreme Court ruled that Texas can do the gerrymandering that they were doing between the censuses.
• 44:12
  And by the way, the census law that they're trying to put in, I hope that they get that done, that uh only Americans could be counted in the census.
• 44:20
  That needs to be done uh among uh all the other things that they are trying to put through.
• 44:25
  That is something I think that should really should be bipartisan.
• 44:28
  I know that it won't.
• 44:29
  It probably would not pass in the Senate because it would require 60, and I don't think you'll find enough Democrats, but they are working on that, and I would love to see that happen.
• 44:37
  But anyway, the decision comes from the Supreme Court on Thursday that yes, Texas can, and that means that everybody else can.
• 44:45
  And there are other states that are looking at it.
• 44:47
  You have Indiana, California, Texas, North Carolina, and Ron DeSantis in Florida just said that they're going to do it.
• 44:54
  So what that means for the midterms, going back to the 26 midterms, as we talked about in the first segment, that means that the Republicans stand to have a net gain of seats.
• 45:06
  Not exactly sure how many.
• 45:08
  California may pick up another five, but Florida could possibly pick up five to six, Texas is five.
• 45:14
  I think the net gain is somewhere between ten and fifteen for the Republicans, and having said that, I still don't even know if that's enough for the Republicans to hold for the Republicans to hold the power in the midterms in 2026 in the House of Representatives.
• 45:30
  I think in the Senate, they're probably going to be okay.
• 45:32
  But that happened in the Supreme Court.
• 45:34
  And then you also have the Supreme Court agreed to hear birthright citizenship.
• 45:39
  They had done some hearings on the birthright citizenship, but it became uh a hearing about something else.
• 45:46
  Now they are going to hear the merits of birthright citizenship.
• 45:49
  What do you make of this?
• 45:50
  Do you think this is going to be something that the Supreme Court with a six to three decision or five four will side with Donald Trump?
• 45:58
  Well, you know, I've always argued on the show that it couldn't possibly be literally birthright citizenship, and that Indians didn't get citizenship of this country until the 1900s.
• 46:08
  And if they got if birthright citizenship was for everyone, why would that have been necessary?
• 46:12
  It was for um, you know, it was a post-slavery uh amendment.
• 46:17
  So, you know, I guess we'll see, and does the Supreme Court agree with me, or is that argument making any sense?
• 46:22
  I I think it does.
• 46:23
  Um, and the main reason the left supports it is it's because when there are illegal aliens in this country, and they have children, and they have children at a far greater rate than the native born, they automatically become citizens, and but probably 70 plus percent of them become Democrat voters if they do vote.
• 46:42
  In fact, it's probably even more than 70 percent.
• 46:44
  Uh, maybe it's eight or ninety percent.
• 46:45
  So uh it is a major benefit to them.
• 46:47
  The real question then becomes can we retroactively remove citizenship of people who were born here whose parents are legally?
• 46:54
  And the logistics of that would probably be uh uh quite a hurdle, but we know there's at least one member of Congress doesn't anchor baby.
• 47:02
  We could start with her, I guess.
• 47:04
  Wouldn't that be great?
• 47:05
  I think I think whatever happens, they sort of have to say, okay, this starts now.
• 47:11
  I don't think you can go back 40 or 50 years and do that.
• 47:14
  Unfortunately, you think that's how it would be as well, but if we really could retroactively, that would be so so very cool.
• 47:21
  And you know, when it comes to the DACA kids, I really think something needs to be done about them.
• 47:26
  And Donald Trump even suggested that in his first term, and Nancy Pelosi or the Republicans, no one brought that to him, no one brought him a solution.
• 47:35
  I think he was ready to give them amnesty.
• 47:38
  They've never lived in another country.
• 47:40
  Uh you know, if you have this this person that's lived here for 30 years and this has been their world, and then all of a sudden you send them to Columbia.
• 47:48
  How how is that even humane?
• 47:51
  Is that humane?
• 47:52
  I don't know.
• 47:52
  I think some hardliners are like, no, they need to go.
• 47:56
  I just don't agree with that.
• 47:57
  Do you?
• 47:58
  Uh yeah, I'm a full enough job booker.
• 48:00
  Yeah, sorry.
• 48:01
  I knew you would be.
• 48:02
  I've been so radicalized with a left.
• 48:04
  I'm like, I'll just take any deportation and get it to the point.
• 48:08
  I I almost knew that was going to be your answer.
• 48:10
  Oh, of course.
• 48:11
  Did you see that the Clintons on uh decided not to come to a hearing?
• 48:16
  They are not going to testify.
• 48:18
  That shouldn't be surprising for anyone.
• 48:21
  Someone else that they wanted to have testify this week in the Senate was Judge Bosberg.
• 48:27
  He's the radical activist there in Washington, D.C.
• 48:30
  Here is Kevin Cork from Fox News talking about a couple of judges that will not come and do this hearing.
• 48:36
  Brewing on Capitol Hill, U.S.
• 48:38
  District Judges James Bosberg and Deborah Boardman, both turning down requests to testify at a Senate hearing this week entitled Impeachment.
• 48:46
  Holding rogue judges accountable.
• 48:49
  Bosburg, whose series of judgments regarding the Trump administration have ignited a legal fire storm, including his decision to restrict the White House's use of the Alien Enemies Act to deport Venezuelans.
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  Uh there also been questions about his apparent role in Arctic Frost, that FBI investigation that allegedly tracked the private communications and phone calls of nearly a dozen Republican lawmakers.
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  As for Boardman, well, no stranger to controversy after ruling against the administration's effort to restrict birthright citizenship.
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  So the question is, where do things go from here?
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  And we want to discuss all that.
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  And so do we.
• 49:23
  I want to discuss this too.
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  Where do they go from here?
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  You know, this is the judge that made the birthright citizenship uh order.
• 49:31
  I think the bigger problem that we have been witnessing are federal district judges making decisions that override the executive branch.
• 49:40
  And the way that I see all of this happening really is a good thing.
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  And I started this hour about George Washington and the founders.
• 49:49
  You know, our founders created three co equal uh branches of government.
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  And to me, it's very important that we have three co equal branches of government.
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  I don't want to see overreach.
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  In any of them.
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  But a lot of people are seeing what these federal district judges are doing as overreach.
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  And even in the case of the Supreme Court, they also agreed with that that they are overreaching.
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  And Bozberg knows he is as well.
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  Hensley doesn't want to show up.
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  I mean, I guess from his perspective, if there's no consequences, what's the point?
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  And the uh unfortunate thing too is it is going to be the theatrics I mentioned earlier, where there's going to be a lot of people shouting at him, calling them out, justifiably so, but it is it going to lead to anything?
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  And I I unfortunately don't think so.
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  Well, I think they are under investigation.
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  I know that Bosberg is.
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  He's part of the Arctic Frost with all of the subpoenas for Senate.
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  So he is going to be part of that investigation that they are doing on Jack Smith right now.
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  So if I was his attorney, I would tell him don't go say anything.
• 50:49
  All that's going to do is get you in more trouble.
• 50:52
  I actually forgot he was underestimate.
• 50:54
  There's so many crackers.
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  It's crazy.
• 50:57
  There is a lot going on right now.
• 50:59
  And I put this post out the other night.
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  I think it was Saturday night.
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  Uh, if I told you this, you would think I'm nuts.
• 51:07
  The Democrats that said there were no illegal immigrants on Snap are now suing the Trump administration because he took illegal immigrants off snap.
• 51:17
  You cannot make up what is happening in 2025, and there is a lot happening, and it's fast.
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  But I don't think that we should forget about what we came through from the Joe Biden years.
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  You know, they were trying to make us drive electric vehicles.
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  That was stupid.
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  They said we couldn't cook on gas stoves.
• 51:35
  They tried to have an information board to silence us and uh censor American speech and do away with the First Amendment.
• 51:43
  All of those things were very dangerous.
• 51:46
  But I don't think it's gone yet.
• 51:48
  You know, we think that woke is gone, DEI is gone, and I think there's been great headway.
• 51:53
  It it's quiet right now.
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  You don't hear a lot about it.
• 51:56
  It hasn't gone anywhere, though, has it, Matt?
• 51:58
  Well, it's it's you know, receded a little bit.
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  It's become mainstream to mock.
• 52:05
  Um you know, there are certain words in our vocabulary.
• 52:07
  I don't know if I'll be advertiser friendly on your show that are you know being used more readily, but one that you know people say to me is stupid.
• 52:15
  We all know what I mean.
• 52:16
  Yeah.
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  Um, so people are definitely more comfortable, but you know, the you know uh woke activist types, uh, did they change their minds?
• 52:25
  Of course not.
• 52:25
  Are the Cretans that are have made education woke and are teaching our kids all that nonsense?
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  Are they toning it down at all?
• 52:32
  Um, of course not, certainly not in our cities.
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  So all the woke people are still there.
• 52:37
  It's just there's a the resistance to it is a lot more visible.
• 52:42
  Well, and when you look at the 26 midterm, which is something we've sort of weaved through this hour.
• 52:47
  If the Democrats get the power and they have the house, then I think it a lot of that comes back.
• 52:54
  You they're gonna be a lot more bolder than they are right now because they don't have the power.
• 52:59
  And then if we lose the Senate, the Republicans lose the Senate, it's gonna get louder.
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  And then in 28, if you have a Democrat president, it's all coming back.
• 53:08
  Yeah.
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  That's what I mean.
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  It really hasn't gone anywhere.
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  It's quiet, but it still exists.
• 53:14
  Those people are still there.
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  There were 75 million of them that voted for Kamala Harris, who was the worst candidate in American history.
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  You know, they weren't voting for Kamala Harris.
• 53:24
  It's because they were crazy.
• 53:25
  Well, this is happening in North Carolina.
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  North Carolina, the state, they passed a law that said you can't bring these types of books, and those types of books are the books talking about transgender and gender and sexuality.
• 53:39
  You can't have those in a library, they are not the place for our second and third graders to watch.
• 53:44
  But listen to this story because it's happening in North Carolina, even though they passed a law that said they couldn't.
• 53:50
  A white dude, it's a story book presented to second and third graders called Santa's husband.
• 53:56
  Lord only knows what they're doing to the elves.
• 53:59
  A lot of parents wondering what in the name of Dasher and Dancer is going on.
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  And joining me now to help us figure all of that out is State Representative Brendan Jones from North Carolina.
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  Mr.
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  Jones, good to have you with us.
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  Um, how did you find out that Santa Claus had a husband?
• 54:18
  Well, uh, thanks for having me.
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  But uh the the way we found out is they were pretty bold and then went right on the Twitter, now known as X, and uh wanted to let the world know that they were gonna find North Carolina state law by doing this.
• 54:30
  Uh, and just a little backstory in uh August of 23, we passed uh SB 49, which mandated parental notification of gender identity changes and banning any sexual gender instructions in K through four.
• 54:45
  So that book is in North Carolina second and third grade schools there in that district, that district alone.
• 54:52
  You have a radical school board there.
• 54:54
  That's why the local elections are so important.
• 54:58
  Back in November in Virginia, we lost a lot of Republican seats in school boards there.
• 55:03
  This is why this is so important.
• 55:05
  You have this book here, you've got a black Santa Claus that is married to a white Santa Claus, and it's Santa Claus's husband.
• 55:13
  This is in a second and third grade library in that district in North Carolina.
• 55:17
  Matt, that's why I say this hasn't gone away.
• 55:20
  Obviously, they are challenging the North Carolina law, and they're gonna try to take it to the Supreme Court to get this type of law thrown out.
• 55:28
  And we need to be aware that this is still going on.
• 55:32
  Yeah, it's just uh people have made this point with like the drag queen story hour people that you know why is it that they only ever want to read in front of children?
• 55:44
  Yeah, like that's but they're they're the point being they're clearly targeting a group to sexualize them.
• 55:49
  They don't go to the nursing home, do they?
• 55:51
  Correct, correct.
• 55:52
  They're trying to create some sense of normalcy, and that's exactly what they're doing here.
• 55:55
  I mean, it's so bleak as you were describing it.
• 55:57
  I'm like, well, at least they're not transgender, like that's we're not quite that bad with the story yet.
• 56:02
  But no, this is a horrible thing.
• 56:04
  And they are there's this thing they do where like we saw this in Florida, where they would try to ban um like pornographic material in books, and then teachers who are activists would remove books from the library that were not even remotely related, and then post pictures of the library shelves and say, like, see, this is what these book bans are doing to us.
• 56:31
  They're trying to frame it as in us being against this stuff is like the same as wanting to get rid of 1984, which is uh you know, ironic, even that you know the concepts of that book.
• 56:41
  But no, they they know they can't actually win.
• 56:43
  Uh if what they present is presented accurately, they know that people are repulsed by it.
• 56:49
  So when we push back, they try to claim like uh either we want to put ban books that are unrelated or that we're against some general form of tolerance.
• 56:58
  Um these are sick people.
• 57:00
  Yeah, they are.
• 57:01
  And so there are a bunch of second and third graders in North Carolina here at Christmas time that think that Santa is a black dude married to a white dude and they're gay.
• 57:11
  So I don't think that that is the Christmas picture that we want to paint for our children.
• 57:16
  Matt, our our our hour is over.
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  Thank you so much for joining us again Monday night.
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  Have yourself a great week.
• 57:23
  We'll do it again next week, and thank you so much.
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