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Patriots Unfiltered 5/15: 2025 Schedule Breakdown, Jack Gibbens In-Studio · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: Who stood out at Rookie Mini Camp?
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  Speaker 1: No Buddy.
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  Speaker 3: I've always thought the coaches here have had really good energy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I thought Bill's practices were always really high
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  Speaker 3: tempo and coaches running to and front drills, and it
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  Speaker 3: just didn't feel like a lot of time, you know,
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  Speaker 3: being wasted. But I definitely took notice of the energy
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  Speaker 3: just overall from all the coaches. I'd also just highlight
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  Speaker 3: Scott Booker was the safety's coach. With one guy that
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  Speaker 3: really just stood out to me, booming voice, knows what
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  Speaker 3: he's looking for, watching the practice from the back end
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  Speaker 3: of the defense, you know. Even Thomas Brown spending a
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  Speaker 3: lot of time with Josh McDaniels on the field during
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  Speaker 3: that practice as well, like someone was actually watching.
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  Speaker 4: I think having a guy like Rabel and Josh McDaniels
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  Speaker 4: on him, I think Bill will limit some of the mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 2: at Gillette Stadium, and the schedule is out. That was
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  Speaker 2: the big breaking news last night at eight o'clock. And
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  Speaker 2: as as expected, the schedule looks good for the new
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  Speaker 2: looks good. It's good, although there's some tough stretches and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get into that. We're gonna dissect the
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  Speaker 2: what's that?
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  Speaker 4: Do you think that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I do what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Your mic is on protected?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's okay, naked Mike, watch your piece.
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  Speaker 3: Dog on the show here anyway?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened to Paul Sponge? Paula you want the Sponge?
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  Speaker 4: I just want to apologize out.
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  Speaker 3: She's the one who said it's just so thank god cover.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll talk about the schedule. Congratulations Celtics. You're showing
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  Speaker 2: a little Selfltics pride last night. Proud of you. Evan's happy,
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  Speaker 2: he'll be stot and what else? We might have a guest?
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  Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have You're gonna have a guest.
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  Speaker 2: Remember the defense?
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  Speaker 1: I hope?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well talk some ball, you can only hope. What
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  Speaker 2: else do we want to talk about? We're moving into
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  Speaker 2: the schedule A lot of a lot of the schedule
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  Speaker 2: is very exciting.
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  Speaker 3: We have our slate of games which, uh, we knew
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  Speaker 3: the opponents, and that's why I like what changed. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think there was an order you could have
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  Speaker 3: put the opponents that would really affect the dynamic that much.
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  Speaker 4: To me, Well, you would be in the minority. Everybody
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  Speaker 4: thinks this sets up very well for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: Well except for Paul, but anyway, I do think that
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  Speaker 2: you know, it might like I already knew who they
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  Speaker 2: were playing, like you know, like you know who we're
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  Speaker 2: playing home and away for a long time. But I
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  Speaker 2: think once you start putting it out, laying it out,
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  Speaker 2: it does give a completely different dynamic to that slate
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  Speaker 2: of opponents.
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  Speaker 4: I would say it can. I don't think generally it does.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, well how they you know, you know who
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  Speaker 2: they have to play before you and play after you
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  Speaker 2: where it falls during the season. You know who you
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  Speaker 2: open up against, who are your prime to I think
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  Speaker 2: now it's now it makes it exciting, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I think the two biggest takeaways for me are won
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  Speaker 3: the three game road trip in October tough, just three
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  Speaker 3: road games in a row. I think that's always difficult,
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  Speaker 3: not a lot of travel for the Patriots overall this year.
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  Speaker 3: And lastly, just the setup.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of miles, in terms of the same amount
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  Speaker 2: of travel as last.
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  Speaker 3: Year, right in terms of just not across the country twice,
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  Speaker 3: and but and then just the end of the bye
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  Speaker 3: week is late like it was last year in week fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: So if you if you lump Cincinnati into that in
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  Speaker 3: week twelve, those last I guess it's six games you're
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  Speaker 3: you're looking at, let's say Jets too, So that final
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  Speaker 3: bit of the schedule where you're pushing Bills, Ravens, Jets, Dolphins.
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  Speaker 3: If you're in the playoff mix, I think you can
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  Speaker 3: control your own fate. If you can you can last
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  Speaker 3: that long.
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  Speaker 2: I mean hopefully that those last four games means something.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you're hoping for, and if they do, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's to me that's the big.
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  Speaker 4: So is that why? People? And I'm just wondering because
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  Speaker 4: I came in and I had one question for Mike today,
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  Speaker 4: What am I missing? Why is this set up so well?
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  Speaker 4: Because when I was listening to my shows driving in,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people were calling in, a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people on the some of the hosts were suggesting this
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  Speaker 4: was really good news, and I kind of looked at
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  Speaker 4: the way you just your facial expression just said exactly
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  Speaker 4: how I thought. I didn't. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 4: when I look at what the schedule like, not as
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  Speaker 4: many factors as you painted out, but I do I
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  Speaker 4: would say, you know, you're going to play a Thursday
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  Speaker 4: night game. Generally almost almost everybody gets a Thursday night game.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know about I think that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think. I think I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's some teams that don't have any prime time.
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  Speaker 4: Tennessee it doesn't have any prime I.
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  Speaker 2: Thought the rule now is everybody had to play one Thursday.
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  Speaker 4: So I always look where is the prime where is
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  Speaker 4: the Thursday night game? Because I think it's an enormous
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  Speaker 4: advantage to be at home. So check mark plus Patriots.
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  Speaker 4: The home game is Thursday night against the Jets on
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  Speaker 4: the Thursday night. I think that's a good you know,
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  Speaker 4: beyond that, I'm kind of with Mike. You know, a
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  Speaker 4: three game road trip is not ideal, but you're playing
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  Speaker 4: two teams that are, you know, at least at your
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  Speaker 4: level in Tennessee and New Orleans on paper, So I
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  Speaker 4: don't think it's an overly daunting three game road trip.
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  Speaker 4: Uh and then that I think the end. So I'm wondering,
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  Speaker 4: do you think people think it's set up really well
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  Speaker 4: because it's kind of bottom heavy, the tough games seem
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  Speaker 4: to come, Like Mike said, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Buffalo, Miami down
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  Speaker 4: the stretch might give them a chance to have some
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  Speaker 4: of the winnable quote unquote winnable games on paper earlier,
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  Speaker 4: so you get to the point where you get to
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  Speaker 4: the buy. So maybe maybe that's why people think it's
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  Speaker 4: set up well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, six six or seven in the AFC to end
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  Speaker 3: the season, and then talk so much about Miami trying
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  Speaker 3: to beat Tua, having Miami come here and what is
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  Speaker 3: it going to be? January's still tbd. But that first
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  Speaker 3: weekend in January, that's an exciting I hope that's an
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  Speaker 3: exciting game that.
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  Speaker 4: Mark positive calumn for the Patriots. Miami in January in Foxborough.
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  Speaker 3: But you get a shot at Tua in the weather.
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  Speaker 3: Will he be healthy by that point? This is a
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  Speaker 3: team that I think most people, yeah right, they so
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  Speaker 3: is a lot going into that Patriots haven't been able
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  Speaker 3: to beat Tua. Tua hasn't been able to beat the cold,
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  Speaker 3: something's got to give. So I mean, that could set
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  Speaker 3: up to be a really exciting final game maybe if
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  Speaker 3: if the Patriots are you know, in that area of
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  Speaker 3: playoff contention. I like not having to like face the
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  Speaker 3: Bills two times in the last three weeks, where maybe
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  Speaker 3: one of those games you would have gotten the actual Bills.
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  Speaker 3: But the last game, like last year, how much do
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  Speaker 3: they really need that game? It's they're playing for something
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  Speaker 3: else at that point. So the way that it lines
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  Speaker 3: up with that Jets in Miami to and the to
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  Speaker 3: the end of the season, you have again two opponents
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  Speaker 3: in the division, a chance to make some noise and
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  Speaker 3: improve your seating there as the season ends. Even if
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  Speaker 3: you know, even if you had a bad year and
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  Speaker 3: things didn't work out right like you still can finish strong,
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  Speaker 3: you know, maybe with a win at the Jets and
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  Speaker 3: a win against Miami.
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  Speaker 6: What makes me a little nervous is that on paper,
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  Speaker 6: there's a lot of games that maybe they should take
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  Speaker 6: a lot of those in the beginning, and it's such
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  Speaker 6: a new team and you don't know how they're going
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  Speaker 6: to gel together, and are they going to take advantage
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  Speaker 6: of the bad football early on because you want them
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  Speaker 6: to be in a position to be rolling when these
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  Speaker 6: really tough matchups against like the Ravens and Cincinnati comes
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  Speaker 6: in the second half. But again you have to they
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  Speaker 6: have to be ready to go to take advantage of
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  Speaker 6: the first half.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just I pointed out the example
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  Speaker 3: of Week one where it's like Gino Smith. Gino Smith
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  Speaker 3: was like flawless here last year. Now he's in a
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  Speaker 3: new situation with a new coach and they were together.
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  Speaker 3: But it's just there's so many variables. It's so hard
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  Speaker 3: to look at and be like, who are the Raiders. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I know who Gino Smith was last year. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I saw the Patriots lose to a Raiders team, but
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  Speaker 3: they're completely different. So that's where I'm with Paul. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see how it lays out, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: the opponents that they have, it was never going to
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  Speaker 3: be an absolute murder.
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  Speaker 4: I won't disappoint you completely, Freddie. I will like sort
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  Speaker 4: of off for the other side. And that's one of them.
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  Speaker 4: I heard a lot of people say it's it's really
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  Speaker 4: set up for them to get off to a great start. Well,
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  Speaker 4: I would say, you have Miami. You have three of
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  Speaker 4: the first four game, so I you know, I think
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  Speaker 4: that that isn't an opportunity to get out to a
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  Speaker 4: strong start if you can take care of business.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 4: They haven't been a good home team the last couple
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  Speaker 4: of years, but I would look at it and say Raiders, Dolphins,
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  Speaker 4: Steelers to me, doesn't line up in my mind, as
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  Speaker 4: you I have to a great start here.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, like we won four games last year, right, I
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  Speaker 2: would the Raiders, Dolphins and Steelers are looking at the
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  Speaker 2: skin and say, oh, we got the Patriots.
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  Speaker 4: I think if they could go two and two in
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  Speaker 4: those first four, I think that would be okay. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, because when was the last time they weren't
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  Speaker 4: one and three?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, especially at Miami that's a house of horrors,
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  Speaker 3: and week two for.
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  Speaker 4: This team point, I think people are just looking at
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  Speaker 4: the Raiders at home win.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I'm always gonna look at it optimistically at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of every year that the moves that they've
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  Speaker 2: made the new head coach Drake May in his second year,
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  Speaker 2: that we're going to be better than we were last year.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Pittsburgh is a team that they about these
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  Speaker 2: other teams, maybe they're better.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I hesitate to say, well, this the spot.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what the spot is until it gets there.
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  Speaker 2: Right Like see now you learn you can't judge it
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  Speaker 2: until you get this.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm not talking about the I'm not talking about
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  Speaker 4: the teams. I'm talking about the spots. Like this whole
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  Speaker 4: thing of the schedule really sets up well for the Patriots. Well,
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  Speaker 4: so if they if they're playing uh, let's say Atlanta, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: November second, they play Atlanta. You know, did Atlanta start
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  Speaker 4: the season like six and two. I don't think that
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  Speaker 4: sets up well for you. But maybe they're you know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe they're they're struggling. Maybe Pennix isn't you know, picking
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  Speaker 4: it up right away. He's not doing Jayden Daniels last year.
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  Speaker 4: He's doing what typical first time starters do when they struggle.
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  Speaker 4: That sets up well for you. I have no idea
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  Speaker 4: until we get to that stage of the season.
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  Speaker 2: And the other thing you have to remember again, we're
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  Speaker 2: a four in thirteen team, so we're playing a four
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  Speaker 2: and thirteen schedule. Right of course we're playing the other
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  Speaker 2: teams that aren't that good.
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  Speaker 3: But that's so.
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  Speaker 4: But it was the same last year.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's the exactly so like right now, we're not
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  Speaker 2: a good team until we prove otherwise.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I said to Paula, we've been into relegation right
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  Speaker 3: Like it's like the soccer and I've either got to
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  Speaker 3: make a soccer comparison, but like they were in relegation
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  Speaker 3: last year, and this feels again, you're a little bit
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  Speaker 3: in relegation. You're paying the other teams that are kind
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  Speaker 3: of like you, with new coaches and new quarterbacks and
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  Speaker 3: maybe like Atlanta, a lot of people think they're on
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  Speaker 3: the upswing. Maybe not, but it's the proving ground for
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  Speaker 3: this team. Get out of the relegation, get into a
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  Speaker 3: second or first place schedule, start playing the good teams.
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  Speaker 3: But you got to do that by.
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  Speaker 2: Beating out the I can't assume anything. I'm just hopeful that,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, I laid out all those reasons that
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  Speaker 2: we're better than we.
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  Speaker 4: Were, and I do the same thing that everybody else does,
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  Speaker 4: and I like it. I like I have fun doing
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  Speaker 4: the oh, you know Raiders when Miami at Miami loss.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like I do the same thing. Sure, but
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  Speaker 4: I think that people look at some of the games
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  Speaker 4: in a different way than I think you would look
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  Speaker 4: at it if you was taking a step back objectively.
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  Speaker 4: And yes, I think there are a lot of teams
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  Speaker 4: like I would say just Carolina, New Orleans, Tennessee, Cleveland
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  Speaker 4: like those. I in my view, those are a lot
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  Speaker 4: of like teams, you know how you say the like
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  Speaker 4: minded individual Those are like Patriots, teams that have struggled
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  Speaker 4: in recent years and are trying to search for answers.
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of Patriots fans look at those
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  Speaker 4: and say, win, win, win win. I look at that
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  Speaker 4: and say two and two, and if you can do
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  Speaker 4: better than that, that's gravy. Last year they couldn't do that.
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  Speaker 4: Last year they had four or five of those games.
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  Speaker 4: They won one of them. They beat Chicago, they lost
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  Speaker 4: to Indianapolis, they lost to Jacksonville, they lost to Tennessee.
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  Speaker 4: Those were all like minded teams. Last year they lost
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  Speaker 4: almost all of them. Those were all games that I
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  Speaker 4: think if we all looked at it at this time,
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  Speaker 4: we'd say, that's winnable, that's winnable, that's winnable, And in
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  Speaker 4: my mind, the winnable games you usually split.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they won the Q, it's like unwinnable with the
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  Speaker 6: Bengals and right, right, like the rest was just insult.
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  Speaker 4: To injuries and that will happen. You know, There'll be
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  Speaker 4: a game on here that you're not expecting them to win.
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  Speaker 4: It they'll win, yeah, but there's gonna be games that
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  Speaker 4: you are expecting them to win that they're gonna lose.
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  Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, but I'm not gonna hide my enthusiasm that
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  Speaker 2: last year I said ceiling with six. This year, I'm
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  Speaker 2: saying ceiling is ten, you know, And because well they're
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  Speaker 2: that much better. I hope, I hope.
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  Speaker 3: I hope too.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, but be nice to be able to talk
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  Speaker 4: about a winning team again. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's hard to talk about the team within
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  Speaker 3: the context of the league right now.
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  Speaker 4: It's a minute.
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  Speaker 3: We can only talk about what we've seen the Patriots do.
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  Speaker 3: And I just from the coaching decisions, the free agency additions,
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  Speaker 3: the draft, I feel excited about this team. I felt
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  Speaker 3: like this will be a better football team. How much better?
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  Speaker 3: How will they stack up with these other teams? You
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  Speaker 3: gotta wait and see how it how it comes together.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm with you, Fred, like, I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: it's all going to shake out, but I feel really
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  Speaker 3: good about how they're putting this team together and the
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  Speaker 3: position that they're in now, I just want to see
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  Speaker 3: how how does it unfold? You know, how does this
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  Speaker 3: team play under Mike Frable?
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  Speaker 4: What does it look like the other team?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 4: And that's part of like right out paid to So
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  Speaker 4: you know, there's a game right now. Gun to my head,
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  Speaker 4: if you had to tell me they're going to win
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  Speaker 4: or lose, I have to pick a game that they're
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  Speaker 4: gonna win. Gun to my head. I have a few options.
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  Speaker 4: Tennessee would be one of my strong options, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: what if cam Wood's good?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Right?
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  Speaker 4: What if he's Jaydon Daniels.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, exactly, what if he's c J Stroud even yes, first.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah. It's happened each of the last two years,
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  Speaker 4: a team that was dreadfully bad got a rookie quarterback
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  Speaker 4: who played right away and magically.
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  Speaker 2: Was good, and the team elevated because of that.
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  Speaker 4: So you just never know what if is the Browns quarterback?
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  Speaker 3: But Week eight, what does that mean?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but it is so Matt Morrell, make
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  Speaker 4: sure you logged this one. You want to archive this
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  Speaker 4: episode because this was the episode that Mike do so
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  Speaker 4: was excited about the future that almost never happened. Now
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  Speaker 4: I'm never really excited about anything.
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  Speaker 3: So it was this one. I just I saw I'm
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  Speaker 3: ver able to jump into practice, and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: that's it. Ten wins. You could still play? Is he
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  Speaker 3: gonna play?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I agree with everything Fred said that. I'm looking
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  Speaker 4: at all the different things that happened. None of us
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  Speaker 4: knows for sure, but I think they made a lot
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  Speaker 4: of good moves. I think they should be better. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: what I've seen and that should be better.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I'm excited because of the moves, not the schedule, right,
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited because of the moves.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 2: Schedule be damned. We'll play them when they come and
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  Speaker 2: we'll play them when we go. It's because of the
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  Speaker 2: moves we made that I'm excited.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: But it's a much different perspective now, because I'm sure
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: when the schedule used to come out, when things were
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: humming around here, that you'd be like, all right, at
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: Kansas City, that's a that's a big game, right, Like
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: you start stacking a wood, Philly's coming here, Like you're
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: starting to play the first these ones, you know.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: Same thing I used to do then, only in reverse.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: I would look at the four or five tough games,
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: like I'd look at the Baltimore and the Buffalo thing,
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: and I would do the same thing.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Somebody.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: You'll probably split those, yeah, do you know what I mean?
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: Like I never consent. Like people would look at that
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: and say, well, there's four losses right there. No, man,
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: they're the Patriots. They're not going to lose all four
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: of them. I used to be obnoxious, right right right now,
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: I'm obnoxious the other way.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Well, even as bad as the Patriots have been the
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: last couple of years in terms of wins, they still
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: have had those random wins over the Bills, right what you.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: Know, it's completely it's bizarro now because to you a point,
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: like last year they beat Cincinnati. No one expected that,
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Alex Well, there always was a loss to a team
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: that you never expect. This is no way they're going
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: to lose that game. Oh my god, they lost to Miami.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Ya. So let me ask you a question. Last year,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: if Rabel was the head coach and he had his
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: staff that he has now, But the players are the
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: same player, No, the roster from twenty twenty four is
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: the same. The difference is Rable has, it's Vrabel and
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Josh mcdaniels's you know, coordinator and all that. What do
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: you think their record would have been last year?
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: I think a couple more wins at least.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, again, it's it's hard to say who
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: plays quarterback in Week one.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Everything would have.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Would written with Jacoby.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Everything, new games, everything else the same.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: I would make an argument that there was probably a
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: coaching error that led to a loss. So five wins,
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: I'll say I.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Echoed those lines. I think there's a couple.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: I think the dramatically more skilled on the field talent
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: wise right now than they were alive.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I think I think they would have
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: been able to take advantage of more mistakes than they
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: were last year, you know, because I mean I think
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: it was a little bit more prepared.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I mean probably, but it's I mean, I can't really
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: quantify it, and I don't think those that kind of
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: stuff generally translates to wins. It's hard.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: It's just it goes back to when you were here
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: on Tuesday.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Fred.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: It's like it's hard to give Mike Rabel and this
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: team of compliment without seeming like you're taking a dump
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: on last year, and like, I don't want to limit
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: how many dumps.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I say it would have been two more wins last year,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: which means two more wins this year, which means the
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: floor is eight this year.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: And that I think is their mean. Their mean wins
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: right now, it's like seven point eight. So you're right
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: around here, you're right, So I like likes the first
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: part of that.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, so two more wins because I said one, so two.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna split split hairs. I don't have enough
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: to give up. But how did you jump from They've
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: won two more than last year, but they're gonna win
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: two more.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Follow the Rabel's staff. They won six games last year.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Now they make now, they make the moves, they make
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: all the moves they did. At minimum they get two
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: more wins. I just think it's floor is eight. The
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: floor is eight, floor is eight.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Bread is spoken, the ceiling is seven for Paul.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: In that area. If but that makes sense, if we're
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: we're gonna go back and we want to again get
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: back to the archives. I'm pretty sure that Fred's ceiling
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: was I mean, Fred's floor was my ceiling last year too. Yeah,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I I believe the floor you was, you know
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one of those were when we talk
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: with Bill that it was six. I thought a good
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: coaching staff, like just a well oiled team, that yeah,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: they're gonna have injuries. But maybe that's a bad number,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: but six was always that number for me if if
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: you had the staff in.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Place, so well we got we got somebody coming in
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: right now. Want a special guest to the Patriot's Unfiltered.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Jack Gibbons, Hey, Gregers.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: He talks like he's on a talk show.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's ther Griffin show. Have a seat, Jack.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I think Jack, it's gonna be a little high for you.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: So it's Mike Dusseau, I'm Fred Kurz, Paul Parrello, Alex Francisco.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: This is Patriots Unfiltered.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: That's producer Matt Matt Morrell.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: We were here all the time, twenty four hours a day.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: They don't let us out, there's no windows. They just
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: bring in food. So but welcome to the team, Thank you,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: thank you. I think every team needs a linebacker named Jack.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I think it should be a requirement. I agree with that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: That would help with my job security for sure.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: So, how's it been so far?
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been great.
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: Definitely loving the guys on the team, the coaching staff,
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: the culture here. I mean, it's cool to be a
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: part of a program that has such awesome history. And uh,
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: really enjoying the area too. I didn't really know much
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: about the Northeast of being from Texas coming out here.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Uh, it's a really beautiful part of the country.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: So I'm enjoying it.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: What have you learned so far about the Northeast?
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I learned that when it's sunny, it's an awesome it sucks.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll just stick with it first the weather's coming,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: it's a nice nice for sure. Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: So I'm just curious about your coming up with Mike
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Frable and you know, breaking in a couple of years
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: ago and then really you know, in twenty twenty three,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I think you played a bunch under him, and you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: what was the connection you made with him and how
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: did he help your development?
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely coming in as an undrafted guy, obviously, the
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: odds were kind of stacked against me, and I actually
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: actually cut me out of training camp and then I
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: got brought back on the practice squad and was kind
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: of grinding away for there and then finally got an
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: opportunity late in the year when guys started going down.
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: But I think a big thing with him, as he
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: always says, like, it doesn't matter how you got here,
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: it's what you do when you get here, And you
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: can earn opportunities by the way that you work, in
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: the way that you prepare and play. And so that's
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: something I really appreciated about him that they were willing
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: to give a guy who was an undrafted rookie, put
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: him out there and starting a Thursday night football game,
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: Like I mean, that was that was a great opportunity
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: for me, and luckily kind of played pretty well there
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: and earned some more opportunities going forward. Like you said,
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: but that's something that's really cool about this play, this
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: program and him and his staff is that they don't
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: really care how you got there.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: It's what you do when you're there.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: How would you describe like you're mostly in the middle,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: or at least you were in Tennessee. How would you
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: describe your game as a linebacker? You're like like a
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: sideline to a sideline guy. How would you describe it?
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I like to I take a lot of pride
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: in being versatile player. Like that first game that I
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: was active as a rookie, actually played all three linebacker positions.
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: I was on the edge a little bit, both inside
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: backers spots, and uh. I'd like to say that I'm
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: a smart guy, pretty instinctive and be able to kind
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: of handle all that but then also anticipate what the
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: offense is going to give us and get a kind
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: of a head step. But I think in this league
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: you kind of have to be a complete linebacker. You
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: can't really be like just the old school run stopper
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: coverage guy. It's so I'm trying to kind of develop
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: my game and be in all those areas. Be good
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: and coverage, be good against the run, be good blitzing,
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: just kind of be a well rounded linebacker.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: So is that sort of versatility where doctor Gibbie came from.
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was kind of like my rookie year, And
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: like Ota is like this coach Rabel likes to ask
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: a lot of questions quiz guys, and I answered a
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: few of them right, and he started calling me doctor
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: and it kind of stuck there for a little while,
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: and then he left. It kind of died down and
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: now out here. He's kind of the only one called
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: me that maybe a few of the guys from Tennessee.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Mike's a bit of a smart for sure. He's been
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: busting my chops since he was playing.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: So yeah, speaking of doctor, how are you feeling You
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: had a season engine injury last year?
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, that was definitely It's been a us as
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: getting back, But I'm feeling good. I'm out there practicing
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: with the guys, trying to get better every day, just
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: kind of continue to build those reps and get more comfortable,
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: trusting myself, trusting that I'm healed, and working really hard
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: in the training room with the staff in there, and
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: so it's going well.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Do you think having a head coach who was the
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: linebacker helps you? Yeah, definitely.
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: I mean from the beginning in Tennessee, Like in rookie
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: Minnie camp, we're sitting in there and he's coming in
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: and giving us a little nuggets here and there and
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: helping us see the game from a different perspective. So
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: definitely try to absorb all the knowledge that you have.
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: But he's a coach that really could coach all the
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: positions on the field. That's something I thought was really
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: cool is we'll always have these meetings where he's up
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: there coaching detailed technique about the O line, the corners,
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: the wide receivers, the linebackers and stuff. And so just
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: learned so much football of those two years in Tennessee
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: and that I was with him. And that's something I
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: really appreciate about him, is even on like special teams, everything,
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: he's he's coaching everything with details.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: So that's cool.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I gotta ask you a little about the defense. So
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of the resident defense guy's I'm like, why,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: actual defense guys, and they're all on me, But what
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: can you tell us about this defense? Because been here
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: for a while studying the old Patriots three to four,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: going way back, where you got a lot of two
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: gappers and space eaters, and it would seem to me
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: that this defense with Tourell Williams is about attacking, about
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: getting up field. I know you can't give away too much,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: but what can you tell us about this defense?
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: I think that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: For one, I think we've got a great group of guys.
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: I think we've got a lot of competition at every position,
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: which is going to help make the whole team better,
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: the defense better, and like you said, I think it's
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: going to be really aggressive. We're going to be uh.
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: I think everyone's trying to do things that are simple
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: for us but difficult for them. To try to marry
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: up some stuff, make things look like this, and then
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: we're comeing with something else, and I think that it's
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: gonna be really exciting.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I think that what it's going to bring it to
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: life is the guys.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: And I think that we have the right guys that
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: are going to play hard and uh obviously super talented,
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: but be super connected already. The communication and connection and
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: out there on the field, off the field, the way
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: you guys talking to each other is better than I've
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: seen in my first three years. So I'm really excited
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: about that.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: I'm going to ask you a little bit about what
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: the team did. Was it yesterday? Yeah, yesterday with the
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: you know, the community outings and with that experience was
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: like I know, Alex Jora.
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: I wasn't with Jack's group. I was with Brabels group.
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: But which which place?
• 24:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it was super cool.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: I don't really know where everyone else went, but I
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: was at Pine Street, in which Holmo sheltered down in
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: South Boston and it was super cool. We were able
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: to make a meal for them and then serve it
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: to the most men's and women's shelter and interact with
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: them the people that were staying there, and get a
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: tour the facilities, kind of see what their life's like
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: with the mission that they're doing there, and they're doing
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: some amazing work. So it was super cool, super hombling
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: to be able to experience it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Is getting out in the community important to.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: You, Yeah, absolutely, that's something that I think is super cool,
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: and especially for the Patriots and coach for Abe and
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: them to provide such a cool opportunity like that where
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: we can go do that as a team. That even
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: brings us even closer together. And yeah, it's awesome to
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: be able to give back for y Camp.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: We have many causes that are near and dear to you,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: anything special.
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I really like to support anything that has to
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: do with like children's who especially children who were dealing
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: with like a terminal illness and things like that, So
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: like Saint Jude's and stuff like those causes that Ronald
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: McDonald house, things like that.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: There's plenty of opportunity here for.
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: Great children's hospitals. Get you on some visits.
• 25:11
  Speaker 10: Absolutely.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I had a question, Oh, I can jump in with
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: a defense question.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I was going to say this, So schedule release came
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: out last night. Is that a big deal for players,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Like when the schedule comes out or it's like, what.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: You haven't seen this right now?
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I was definitely waiting for it and
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: looked at it, But like everything, by the time we
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: get to the season, it's one at a time, so.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: You can't really look at it too big picture.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: But it is cool to kind of see, like, I mean,
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: if we got I know, we got like three in
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: a row on the road, So thinking about something like
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: that about we're gonna have to really lock in for
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: that stretcher, especially if you've got like an international game
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: or something like that where your bye week is is
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: kind of what you're looking for.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: Day, I mean, we kind of knew who we're gonna play,
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: and it's gonna be week by week kind of head
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: down focused on what's in front of you. So it's
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: it's kind of both I guess excited to see it,
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: but not not reading too much into it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: So that's basically when it comes out, you're looking at
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: individual things like nikes.
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I definitely want to see those primetime games, the
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: night games, any anything where he might have to travel,
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: just just kind of see it. But I mean, honestly,
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: like after last night, I kind of forget about it
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: until the season.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: So sure, I got one more for you, Jack, Just
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: like Jack, you have to be Yeah, yeah, the game.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Just what was your impression of coming here and playing
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: the Patriots?
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: Like, oh, we actually were played them in Tennessee. I'm sorry, sorry, Yeah,
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: Patriots came out there. But yeah, I had a great
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: impression of the team, just the way that the Patriots
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: kept fighting and clawed their way back into that game,
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: and then Drake taking the guys down to tie the
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: game late and score. I was really impressed with his mobility. Uh,
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: he ran all over us. I was telling him that
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: the other day. I was like, I didn't know you
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: could run like that. But just yeah, I had a
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: great impression of the team, just kind of the way
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: they played and excited to get get on those guys
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: side and gets work.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Well, Jack, we'll let you get back to it. I
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: know you're busy. Anytime you want to come by you
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: know where we are now.
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, awesome.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys. Yeah, thanks, I'm Jack Gibbons.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Welcome aboard.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Thanks Jack, great, all right, Jack Gibbons, Jack good one,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: good stuff.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Good stuff to get those defenders in here, paul Y.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Mike gets really excited when still smiling.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I like, I like, you know, undrafted, you know, gut cut.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, came back.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Reminded me Troy Brown, Yeah, got cut a couple times
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: by Parcels. Yeah, came back on the team and ended
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: up being like mister Patriot.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: It's interesting how to me how he's going to fit
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: in with Ellis and Spolaine and like he I really
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: thought it was interesting hearing him say he played all
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: three linebacker positions, which you know, I'm not sure exactly
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: what they're gonna play a lot of nickel, which is
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: two linebackers, Like, who are those two guys? Thinks Spoleaine's
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: definitely one of them. But Gibbons is in that similar
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: mold of being able to run. And you know, that
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: was kind of one of the questions Nerdy that I
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: had teed up. But just that position at linebacker. We
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: talked about it a lot last year of how hard
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: it is to either get around or get through blocks.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: And to recognize things. And you know, him talking about
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: the experience and the smarts of it all. I think
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: that must be such a big key for an inside linebacker,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: getting experience understanding the blocking teams, because you it's just
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: so hard having played freshman football of the position that
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: you're coming on. But it was, you know, you almost
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I got two guys coming out at you like I
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: understand the dynamics of the position, you know, on the
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: basic level, and from his perspective, it's it's it's nice
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: to have a guy like that who can run and
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I think a lot a lot to the second level.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Yep, absolutely, all right, we'll.
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: Take a perfect New England name too.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Well, like I said, every team should have a linebacker
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: named Jack.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Don't you think I think so? Yeah, it's a good
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: good name yea, because of like Lambert and Ham.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack Lambert Jack Ham, Yeah.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Jack Campbell Detroit that was Yeah, I can't think of
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: any others.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of Jacks out there now. That was
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: a very popular name. I feel like the last like
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: decade or so of.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Everybody's doesn't Ohio State have a Jack Jackson? Yeah?
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: Jackson is like the new take on the name.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, A five to five, Pats five hundred.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: It's the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com. Is the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: email address. I know the newsletters going out tomorrow and
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of documentary stuff going on in there.
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: Well why don't you tell us why?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Because tomorrow the Patriots are releasing Forged in Foxborough and
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know the exact time that it will drop,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: but you'll be able to see it on YouTube. Primarily.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a full length thing. It's over an
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: hour long, and it's uh, it's episode one. There'll be
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: another episode coming out later closer to training camp. But
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I'm really excited about what people have to say about it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I'm excited too. These are right up my alley. These
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: are the kind of things so that we produce where
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I don't really want to watch it until it's actually out,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: like it would kind of ruin it to be part
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: of Like I'm not part of the process with it,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: so it's like kind of nice for me just wait
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: till it's done and then experience it with the fans.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: But I see it looks it looks really really fun.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: A lot of behind the scenes stuff you.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Have to experience it with the fans, right, with the people.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: He's a fan at heart. I'll always be a fan.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: That's right, It's all right. I can't forget my people.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so Mike's working on some some nineteen eighty five Patriots.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I got it to write a game day article. But
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: the way I've been doing it is, I went, I've
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: been watching the TV broadcast at the game in order.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: So it's, uh so that's bringing me back.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: It's a rock fight. It's oh my god, it's But
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I was telling Paul, it's funny watching the TV broadcast
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: because you pick up a lot from the announcers. They
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: have little stories and so you know, it's not just
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: like looking at the box score telling you how it unfolded.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: But one funny thing I told Paul was they were
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: playing the Bucks, and you know, Steve de Berg is
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: just incompletion, incompletion, and then they show like Steve Young
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: on the sideline. Well, they can't play him yet now
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: it's too soon for him. Maybe next year.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: It's like, why are you going to a future fam.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: You got a Hall of Famer just sitting watching the
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: game and they're like, we can't play. I mean, it's
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: like October, I'm like, what he needs the whole year off.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: But you see, uh, you know rookie Bruce Smith was
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: also that year and just destroying the Patriots. But it's
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: it's fun to you know, just go back and inform
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I'll be interviewing some of those guys.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: So it'll be good.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Nice look forward to that. And then again Forge and
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Foxborough will drop tomorrow, so good stuff.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: It's almost it's long too right for the Forge of I.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Said, well, this episode is over an hour. Yeah, hell yeah, yeah,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: And it's it's all like Alex said, all behind the
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: scenes stuff. The staff, the football staff gave us great
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: has given us great access, continuing to give us great access.
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: Have you guys ever had access like this?
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Not to we never had access to the team meeting.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: That being shot, that's I think the only thing that
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: we haven't had access to.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I think and also a lot of them, like
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: we're in the weight room, where like we never were
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: able to get that.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: You know, is there a certain point, Fred, I mean
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: without get giving anything away, but is there a certain
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: point that was most interesting to you, Like was it
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: like the combine behind the scenes or the draft behind
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: the scenes, or anything like that that that stood out
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: to you as as as being.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Well, like Paul said, you know, getting having being able
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: to be there for the first team meeting. We've never
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: seen that before.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: We've never done that, you know, I've never even shot it. Like,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of these things that we've been able
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: to have cameras at in the past. You they're not
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: always made public, but we've been able to have sort
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: of eyes and ears to shoot things this like that
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: team meeting. I don't to my knowledge anyway, I don't
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: think we've ever had access to that's a first time ever.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Such a big moment for Vrabel too, because first time
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: speaking to the team, setting the tone. We saw the
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: clip that he had with Kaden Wallace, which I liked.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: I like when coaches do that kind of creative stuff.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: So I'm excited.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've never been had quite the access
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: that we had this year at the combine. You know,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: being up in the suite, you'll see it. I don't
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: want like, I don't want to give not I don't
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: want I want people to be able to see it. Yeah,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: but I think if you're a Patriots fan and you
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: watch this thing, you're ready to go. You're gonna finish
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: this thing. So let's go. Let's get this season going.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: We've got the schedule. Come on, let's skip training camp.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Let's get right out there, put the pads on, let's go.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: I love it, so I'm always for that training camp,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: all right?
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: So eight five five pats, five hundred. Let's get into
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: it a little bit. I forgot to give Matt morell
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: my one shorder. Oh you got it? What you get
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: me chicken fingers?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I got your cheese pizza.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I can't hear you. What did you say? Hold on,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: he's learning how to run the board. That still doesn't work.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: All right, that's all right. I trust that you'll have
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: food for me. All right, thank you?
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, Freddy, Freddy will not waste away.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Nate, Connecticut. What's up Nate?
• 33:45
  Speaker 11: Hey guys, you guys hear We're good.
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: So I had a quick thoughts and a couple of questions.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: You guys, So I I saw the schedule.
• 33:54
  Speaker 12: Of release last night. I thought it was really well done.
• 33:58
  Speaker 12: But something to point out that.
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: We're going against the Raiders weak one, and I think
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: that's a really good matchup because all the free agency
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: and the draft to be put into the d line.
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: Going against Ashton GenZ, I think that will be a
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: really good matchup because you know Ashton gents. He's saying,
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: like to NFL dms, like draft the guy you can't tackle,
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: Just stuff like that. And my second question to you
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: guys is, since we're going against the Ravens and a
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: couple other teams this year they have mobiles quarterbacks, do
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: you think we're gonna have success or even better success
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: since we have like all the mobile linebackers like Roberts
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: playing and like Jack Gibbons. That was just in studio and.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thanks Nate. So a couple of questions thereic
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: you know, going up against Ashton Genty, Hey, it's gonna
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: be his first real NFL game. I'm assuming he's gonna
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: play in the preseason, but this will be the first
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: time he's probably gonna play maybe against starters from the
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: other team. So that's gonna be great to watch.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: But it's like it goes back to Paul's point, like
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see what he is some of us
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: like Dush and Genty coming out but.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Draft.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: But you know, whether it's Genty or his second question
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: defending mobile quarterbacks. I'll ask our defensive guy here, do
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: you think the Patriots are more equipped to do that
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: this year? Are they a faster defense?
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: I mean a little bit, but I would say I
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: think you're gonna get with the good. I think there'll
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: be some bad too. I think you'll be able to,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: uh not be as susceptible to early down passing because
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: you're not going to have the early down two gaping
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: guys just trying to build the wall, not getting penetration
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: because on those early downs that's easy for the quarterback.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: There's no pressure coming around. I think this defense is
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: getting off the ball every single time. So on one hand,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: you're going to be better against the pass on early downs,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: But I also think that that has the opportunity to
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: open up lanes and gaps and so there you might
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: get gash from time to time. Yes, having mobile linebackers
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: should help running down quarterbacks. But again, if you're aggressive
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: and then you take a false step again Lamar Jackson,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: it could be six points. So it's it's a double
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: edged short A little bit to me. You hope you
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: win more than you lose.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you become a little bit more vulnerable but you
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: have the ability to make more plays.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: But get more speed on the field. And I think
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: that that's that's something that is apparent to me across
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: the across the place. I mean, just look, you swap
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: out Milton Williams for Devon gotcha. I mean, I know
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: that they kind of played different positions, but at the
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: same time, between spa lane between Jack Gibbons, between even
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Christianelli's like, everybody can run. Now, there isn't that big
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: middle linebacker that you're like, well, he's not going to
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: be quite able to get the edge against the faster quarterbacks.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: David's in Florida. Hey David, Hey, guys, how's it going good?
• 36:42
  Speaker 12: So I had a little bit of constructed criticism and
• 36:45
  Speaker 12: then I had a question afterwards. I'll start with the
• 36:48
  Speaker 12: constructive criticism. So I watched the schedule leaf video we
• 36:52
  Speaker 12: put out yesterday, and I feel like it was a
• 36:54
  Speaker 12: little bit underwhelming, which one I understand the Dave Portnoy one.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, I know it can't.
• 37:02
  Speaker 12: Be fireworks every year, because the last couple of years
• 37:04
  Speaker 12: we've had some really great ones. I just felt like
• 37:06
  Speaker 12: it was a little bit underwhelming and it wasn't as
• 37:09
  Speaker 12: as creative. That's all obviously not really a huge.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Deal, but not fair enough.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 37:16
  Speaker 12: And then for my question, it's like a three part
• 37:18
  Speaker 12: question year. So looking at our schedule, which game are
• 37:23
  Speaker 12: you most excited for as a fan? Which one are
• 37:26
  Speaker 12: you most confident in? And then which one are you
• 37:29
  Speaker 12: most scared of?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Get Okay, most confident, most excited, and most scared of?
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Thanks Dave.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go, uh excited at Buffalo Sunday night football.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe Dig's coming back against his old team. It's just
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: a real chance to make a real win there. Uh
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: game that I what do you say? Was scary?
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Most scared, and most scared?
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: It's the last game against Miami, having an opportunity to
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: maybe get in the playoffs or do something and then
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: losing again to two. Yeah, that scares me again, especially
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: at home.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Most I have to say right now, I'm most excited
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: for the home opener. You know, it's the home opener.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: That was my nice most excited about home opener. Yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: we have.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: A bummer being on the road for the opener. I
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: feel like, you know, yeah, yeah.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: And the most that's scared of at Baltimore.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I fear no, man, I don't like that game.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Well, see, I'm not scared of that one because I
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: know it's going to be no, like like, we're probably
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: going to lose that game. He grew up on the
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: game like, well, that's why I'm afraid of that. So
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: it's not a game like I'm I'm most scared of
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: at New Orleans because I'm not. We don't do really
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: well there.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not a baby, so I'm not afraid of teams
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: that we should be. I think that's the game most That's.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: The point you look at and say, oh, we should
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: beat that. But we do well in New Orleans and
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: if we lose again, I don't know why.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: When was the last time we lost there?
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: We lose there a lot, Paul, we do.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: When was the last time.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't, I forget, but I just
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: remember Brees. I just I just remember going there and
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: not doing well.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: So, but it's a game like I feel we should
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: win and if we don't win, like.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: That's the game I'm most confident.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I'm scared of losing that game. Yeah, that's understanding the
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: game I'm most confident in at Bengals.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Perfect. That's the fredest answer ever. I love it.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: That's an awesome answer At Bengals.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, did you hear Trey hendrickson the other day?
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I mean something every year with these guys with contracts,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I mean it's it's like trying together things with silly putty.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Right now, what are we.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Doing over there?
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: We're looking at the schedule. We play Penn State in
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: like October. What's that the Cleveland browns helmet looks like
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: the Penn State House. I have twelve peoples.
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: It just it's white.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: It's a white home.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe they're color blood.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: I had a lot of people reaching out to me
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: last night since one is Penn stayed on the schedule.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know. I don't have people make
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: fun of me, like I don't control.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Having no logo and just an orange helmet, Like come.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: On, maybe that's their color rush helmet.
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: I don't, No, it's just because our graphic is read.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: So what game are you most looking forward to? Alex?
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: I would say home opener, just because it's it's so exciting,
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: you know, there's just an energy about being down on pregames.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Hope springs eternal, everybody all.
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: Right, No one's lost hope yet We saw life in
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: our eyes. The Panthers game doesn't really frighten me much
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: at all.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: That was an candidate for my most confident What are
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: you mostly scared of?
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: I'm most scared of that last Dolphins game.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is home, but that's why.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: But it kind of scares me for reasons like you
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: said of like there's a little like pressure. Actually if we're.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: In a situation where we can make a little win
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: win and you're in.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and two is healthy?
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: But who it never wins when the temperature is below
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: forty but.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be forty degrees at game time?
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: What does it mean?
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: Something's gotta give forty degrees that that time of years.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: All right, let's let's hit up cam in East Providence.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: What's up cam com?
• 41:16
  Speaker 11: How's it going, can you guys hear me?
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Good energy?
• 41:19
  Speaker 11: How's it going? So I have a question and then
• 41:21
  Speaker 11: I have an and like, yeah, I have two questions.
• 41:23
  Speaker 11: So the first one is, so I'm the one at
• 41:26
  Speaker 11: training camp I make the big posters for the players.
• 41:29
  Speaker 11: So I was wondering, can one do you guys give
• 41:31
  Speaker 11: me a player to make That's one of the questions.
• 41:34
  Speaker 11: Can you guys pick any player on the roster.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: So I can make them Roberts Blynn.
• 41:39
  Speaker 11: Robert Blain, all right, sounds good.
• 41:40
  Speaker 13: Second question, Moses going into the going into training camp
• 41:45
  Speaker 13: with the stacked wide receiver women that we have, who
• 41:47
  Speaker 13: is on their verge of on their way out?
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: I missed that because Fred was butchering names and they
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: threw me off. Who was on his way out?
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Who?
• 42:00
  Speaker 13: Like?
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: Why is someone on their way Like?
• 42:03
  Speaker 11: Who who's on the chopping block? In the wide block?
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Okay, wide receiver?
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Wide receiver might be comes to mind, you know, like
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: there's a they're not They're not going to have the
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: same amount of receivers in September that they have now,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: So there's quite a few.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think born in Booty are probably on that list.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: I think Baker was probably on that list.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: These Do you think a trade.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: I don't, Okay, I mean, I don't really know if
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: any of those guys has much trade value. But yeah,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: I mean i'd take the day three pick for anybody
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: if I do you take it?
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: But do you think that's that's how they'll be?
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: No?
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: I think that someone will end up getting released, right.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: I think they'll probably keep this group largely intact into
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: the off season into the OTAs, which, by the way,
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: we'll get a look at what our first look at
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: the entire team next week at an o T. I
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: think the twentieth Yeah, I think it.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Might be during this show too, so thanks to adjust.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: So maybe I will not be getting a little then
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: maybe you.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Would maybe time we'll see talk about it.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I think that friend's got it.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: I think it's like a born Booty Baker but the
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: killer Bees.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: But I like your point about Booty because I to
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: be honest, Yeah, I mean that's and that's generally how
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I feel too. But guy who made a second your leap,
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: and now he's got Josh McDaniel's coming in, and what
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: can he do with Kai Shawn Booty. I'm not overly
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: like optimistic that he's gonna continue to grow, but I
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: think he's done everything he possibly can to deserve every chance.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: May not start. That's part of the that opens up
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: a spot at least for a few weeks for somebody.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: If he's pup to start, which a lot of people
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: have sort of speculated.
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you can kind of let it play out into
• 43:48
  Speaker 9: the season.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: To me, I look at Bourne with that situation, because
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: I think Born is the most suitable second backup behind
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Digs of what they're going to ask Digs to do.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: You know, you look at all right, who's a lock?
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I think I think obviously Digs at some points a
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: lock with him. I think Polk, believe it or not,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I think he's a lock for now. I do. And
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I think obviously Kyle Williams is a lot.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: He's a lock. You know, Hollins is a lock, and
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Doug four and Douglas is a lock. I do not
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: think Polk is a lock.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: So I'm at five year at four, Yeah, I have.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Four locks, Yeah, yeah, I mean that sounds about it.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: And how many are gonna keep seven?
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Probably six? Yeah, so you know, but it could I
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: mean you could keep seven too, especially if Diggs is
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: one of those seven, and you know, maybe he's not
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: on pup but maybe not quite ready to go, like
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: you know, one of those kinds of deals the.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Only thing so people will have to you know, because and.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: I did think it was interesting. When Kendrick Bourne talked
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: last week, he mentioned that he sort of underestimated the
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: recovery and how much that it still affected him coming
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: off the Tory acl that he had the previous season
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: and he didn't feel like he was quite himself. So
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: even if you're out there playing and you're one hundred
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: percent quote unquote, maybe you're not quite ready to be
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs yet.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Yep, I haven't.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: It's been a busy week since I noticed.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Two days ago you weren't at work and today you are.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Is anything different between two days ago and today?
• 45:20
  Speaker 10: Well, I took a pre scheduled day off on.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Pre scheduled so you knew the Celtics going.
• 45:27
  Speaker 14: No I Want concert on Monday night, and uh, I
• 45:32
  Speaker 14: ripped it up pretty good, feeling the next morning, I
• 45:35
  Speaker 14: am still body surf, I'm old and I still have
• 45:39
  Speaker 14: not recovered.
• 45:41
  Speaker 10: And then I was at the Celtics game.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: You got into it with a fan.
• 45:46
  Speaker 10: No, I did not get into it with anybody at
• 45:49
  Speaker 10: the Candle Mark concert last night. At the Celtics game.
• 45:52
  Speaker 10: I can't really say it as much, but no, I'm
• 45:56
  Speaker 10: just kidding.
• 45:58
  Speaker 9: I did have an incident at a game this year,
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: didn't you.
• 46:01
  Speaker 10: Oh, I look, I I stay out of trouble. My
• 46:06
  Speaker 10: father keeps me out of trouble. Actually, to be honest,
• 46:08
  Speaker 10: sometimes when road team fans come gotta have road etiquette
• 46:13
  Speaker 10: to Celtics games. It drives me nuts. I'm not gonna lie,
• 46:17
  Speaker 10: It absolutely drives me.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: Up a wall, even if they have road fan etiquette
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: or if.
• 46:22
  Speaker 10: It's like through the wrong way, regardless.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: You feel like I'm at home. I want to be
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: able to enjoy the game among my fans, among other yeaes.
• 46:31
  Speaker 10: And like I'll just say, last night, these Knicks fans
• 46:34
  Speaker 10: came in and they're peacock and already Evan doesn't have
• 46:38
  Speaker 10: no series, but you know, without without Tatum, so they
• 46:42
  Speaker 10: think if they're here for a party, right, they're they're
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: here for Nixon five. And I just like want to
• 46:47
  Speaker 10: remind them, like you're the New York Knicks, like you
• 46:49
  Speaker 10: haven't won a championship in fifty years, Like I just
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: that was never my mindset, Like pre two thousand and
• 46:56
  Speaker 10: four Red Sox, like you didn't count your chickens before
• 47:00
  Speaker 10: they hatched, Like you made sure the Red Sox were
• 47:03
  Speaker 10: gonna win before you started celebrating, like you you know,
• 47:06
  Speaker 10: the choking, like you know how this goes, like I would.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Just you know, I agree. I think there's a there's
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: a chance. There's a chance I'm not saying a chance,
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: saying there's a chance.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Of course there's a chance.
• 47:19
  Speaker 10: Don't come to Boston and start, you know, going around
• 47:23
  Speaker 10: chanting Nixon five and things like that and expect not
• 47:27
  Speaker 10: to get any smoke. That's all I'm saying.
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: Okay, they piped down in the second half.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: It was that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: I mean, it was all therapeutic based off of the
• 47:37
  Speaker 10: twenty four to forty eight hours all the Spanders have had.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I love the way they play. I think they you know,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: they was gritty, they played really good defense at times. Uh,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: there was blood everywhere. Well, it was good. It was good.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Where are you coming from?
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: Christian Barmore's press conference, the first time that we've spoken
• 47:57
  Speaker 10: to him since unfortunately since the reoccurring of the blood
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: clots last year, he'd you know, obviously had to get
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: pulled off the field again. So uh, he's uh, he
• 48:08
  Speaker 10: says he's a full go. He's a full go right now, really,
• 48:11
  Speaker 10: he says he's yeah, he said he's a full go
• 48:14
  Speaker 10: and no no restrictions, no limitations participating fully in the
• 48:19
  Speaker 10: off season program cleared for football activities. Expectation is that
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: he will be ready to go for training camp and
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: be playing his normal his normal self. He said, you know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 10: he's grown some it's more like a confidence thing that
• 48:32
  Speaker 10: he has to like, you know, build back up that
• 48:34
  Speaker 10: he's not gonna have any more setbacks or anything like that,
• 48:37
  Speaker 10: and say he's starting to feel a lot more like
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: himself and all optimistic, you know, all all positive things.
• 48:43
  Speaker 10: I think it's because at this point it was almost
• 48:45
  Speaker 10: like he wanted to stop talking about it, you know
• 48:47
  Speaker 10: what I mean, Like it's kind of like in his
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: past and he wants.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: To move on.
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: Was he asked about going back on IR at all or.
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah, he was asked about, you know, just his emotions
• 48:58
  Speaker 10: and having to go back. Can you know what what happened?
• 49:03
  Speaker 10: That he didn't really want to get into the medical
• 49:05
  Speaker 10: stuff of like what really occurred, But yeah, I mean,
• 49:07
  Speaker 10: as you would expect you, he said, he was. It
• 49:10
  Speaker 10: was tough, like you know, he was angry, he was
• 49:13
  Speaker 10: upset because he put in a ton of work to
• 49:16
  Speaker 10: get back on the field at all and then to
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: have it, you know, pop back up. I think was
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: tough for him. But he said now that he doesn't
• 49:23
  Speaker 10: feel like he has any fear that it's gonna happen again.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Did he like get into like what was done or
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: what he's doing that gives him confidence that it won't reoccur.
• 49:35
  Speaker 10: He did say that, you know, there's some maybe some
• 49:38
  Speaker 10: tweaks you know, to diet and things like that, just
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: trying to really take care of himself. Not that he
• 49:44
  Speaker 10: wasn't before, but you know, just maybe even more so,
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: you know now that this has happened to him. But
• 49:52
  Speaker 10: he didn't really seem to think that it was you know,
• 49:55
  Speaker 10: anything that he did. It's kind of just like a
• 49:57
  Speaker 10: freak thing that happened to him. And like I said, yeah,
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: he's he's full go right now.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of well that's great new how much
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: the befolio go you could be in May right now?
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: How did he well, it's hard to know, but like
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: how did he look like, you know, hefty wise.
• 50:15
  Speaker 10: I thought he looked a little bit slimmer than the
• 50:17
  Speaker 10: last time we saw him. Okay, and that's not a
• 50:18
  Speaker 10: knock on him whatsoever. But when he had the blood clots,
• 50:22
  Speaker 10: you can't really work out, like it's not like you're
• 50:23
  Speaker 10: really doing much, you know, you have to really let
• 50:26
  Speaker 10: your body heel and I thought he looked a little
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: swelter than the last time that we saw him, because.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: He's got time to put that back on.
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: Well, I think it's a good thing. Like I think
• 50:35
  Speaker 10: when we saw him last year, he was out of shape. Yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 10: I think he was a little bit heavier than what
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: he was playing at the year before when he had
• 50:43
  Speaker 10: the great season. So this looked more. He looked more
• 50:46
  Speaker 10: like you know, the twenty twenty three body type, and
• 50:50
  Speaker 10: you know, Christian bar more than he looked last year.
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: When I saw him yesterday at the community event, I
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: agree with you. I thought he looked a little slimmer
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: and then I mean grant he was running around with
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: eight year olds, but he was running around.
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: It was a nice warm day yesterday and he was moving.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Any questions have about how he feels like he'll fit
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: into this new scheme.
• 51:10
  Speaker 10: No, we didn't get too much into that. You know,
• 51:13
  Speaker 10: I was thinking of asking that, But you know, there's
• 51:15
  Speaker 10: a lot of questions about his road back and like
• 51:18
  Speaker 10: the medical stuff, and I don't think this was the time.
• 51:22
  Speaker 10: Maybe when we talked to him again in MIDI camp,
• 51:25
  Speaker 10: like that would.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Be about like lining up next to Bilton Williams.
• 51:28
  Speaker 10: He did talk about Milton Williams, but more from like
• 51:30
  Speaker 10: a work.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Ethics standpointtle thing.
• 51:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah, he's been really impressed what he said with with
• 51:35
  Speaker 10: Milton Williams his work ethic and they have a competition
• 51:38
  Speaker 10: of who gets here first at the beginning of the day,
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: you know, is uh speed, Maybe it's a sandwich.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: Might be today, which is a rarity. Okay, usually I'm
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: first first.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Ride my bicycle.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you it was a trek today, Yeah,
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: in the rain.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: You think I could sell my wife on an electric
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: motorcycle at some point because I was like, I could
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: just drive to work on it.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Why would be Yeah, imagine little basket.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to tell the story now, but
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: I've I've driven a little embarrassing scooter like that before
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: and just was completely oblivious to how embarrassing it was. No, no, no, no, Well,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: you can get your you can get your motorcycle permit
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: and when you're sixteen, and that means you can ride
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: a motorcycle by yourself. And so my dad had this
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: stupid as a Honda Helix. It was a red one.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: So if you want to google it, you're watching it,
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: go look at it. It's pretty bad. And so I
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: just started riding it to school once I got my permit.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: But it's like it's an a it's like you know, a
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: vespa basically, you know, you know, and people like nice bike.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, I'm not taking the bus.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: And he puts that little backpack that rides high on
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: his back. He puts that in the little basket in.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: It didn't have a basketball. I didn't have anywhere to
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: put my helmet. I can't leave my helmet. Yeah. Sorry.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: I had to go back to Barbo though real quick,
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: just to shift back to Patriots back football, but just
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: to say, like, I think he could really lossom in
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: this scheme. Like they're not going to ask him to
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: like our Christian two gap right, Like it's they're just
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: going to play to his strengths. Yeah, tell him to
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: go get the quarterback like him and mill Williams. That
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: should be an absolute nightmare if he's fully home, right.
• 53:10
  Speaker 10: Well that and that was what Millon Williams said when
• 53:13
  Speaker 10: he taught the other day, was it's the two of
• 53:16
  Speaker 10: them are kind of the ones that are they're trying
• 53:18
  Speaker 10: to lead the charge here together as a tandem. And
• 53:21
  Speaker 10: I wonder, you know, typically speaking, you don't play both
• 53:26
  Speaker 10: with three techniques out over the guards, so like who's
• 53:29
  Speaker 10: going to play over the nose, Like who's going to
• 53:31
  Speaker 10: be the guy on the inside, and how do they
• 53:33
  Speaker 10: You know, it's probably gonna be bar More. He's bigger.
• 53:35
  Speaker 10: You know, here's three twenty millon. Williams is two ninety five,
• 53:38
  Speaker 10: you know, so it's probably body type wise, it would
• 53:41
  Speaker 10: be him, So you know, he might see more double
• 53:44
  Speaker 10: teams in there, he might have more run responsibilities in there.
• 53:47
  Speaker 10: So you know, those are little things that I am
• 53:50
  Speaker 10: just looking for, is how do they put both those
• 53:53
  Speaker 10: guys together in spots and how do they how do
• 53:56
  Speaker 10: they cover up the middle of the field because both
• 53:59
  Speaker 10: those guys, to your point, dude, sort want to get
• 54:02
  Speaker 10: up the field and want to make plays on the
• 54:03
  Speaker 10: other side of the line of scrimmage and you know,
• 54:05
  Speaker 10: defeat blocks and things like that. But you can't have
• 54:08
  Speaker 10: both guys doing now, like someone's got a home in
• 54:11
  Speaker 10: the middle, right, So it'll be interesting to see how
• 54:14
  Speaker 10: they work.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: What do you got, Wow, there's your little red thing.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Red thing that was that was? That was my bad motorcycle.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the camera can exactly that's exactly
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: what I expected. It looks like one of those little vespas.
• 54:32
  Speaker 10: What's with the sound effect?
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Sorry? All right, back to the phone.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: Go to school like that.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Dakota and.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: High school kids aren't judgmental at all.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: You get it, You get it.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: What's up Dakota in Nebraska? Dakota.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: No, it's it's actually Nebraska in Dakota.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Right, all right, he's not there. So everyone's favorite caller,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Christian in La. What's up Christian?
• 55:00
  Speaker 15: Hey you guys, good morning, good afternoon over there. Thank you,
• 55:03
  Speaker 15: guys are taking my call here to Stundy, LA with
• 55:05
  Speaker 15: its beautiful outside. So I know everyone's already talked about
• 55:10
  Speaker 15: the schedule being favorable and how that seems like it's
• 55:13
  Speaker 15: gonna obviously result and more wins for us. And I
• 55:16
  Speaker 15: took a look at the schedule, and I believe, like
• 55:19
  Speaker 15: Coach Brabile believed, that we're in a great position to
• 55:22
  Speaker 15: take advantage of bad football by other teams, which it
• 55:25
  Speaker 15: seems like based on the schedule and what the team
• 55:27
  Speaker 15: did last year, we're going to see a fair amount
• 55:30
  Speaker 15: up and it should get us at best close to
• 55:33
  Speaker 15: us into the playoffs. Right, So that's supposed to feel good,
• 55:36
  Speaker 15: But I'm thinking of the long term health of the team,
• 55:38
  Speaker 15: and this sounds like I'm poopoo in the potential playoff
• 55:42
  Speaker 15: run that we could be on. But it seems like
• 55:45
  Speaker 15: we had the potential to do what the Browns did
• 55:47
  Speaker 15: several years ago with Baker Mayfield, but they took advantage
• 55:49
  Speaker 15: of a seemingly soft schedule and it makes the team
• 55:53
  Speaker 15: look like they were better than they were, and as
• 55:55
  Speaker 15: a result, they wound up in the the bottom middle
• 55:59
  Speaker 15: of the draft the next three or four years and
• 56:01
  Speaker 15: really could not build a team more than they had
• 56:04
  Speaker 15: already gotten at that point. And I can kind of
• 56:06
  Speaker 15: see a little bit of that for us, Or do
• 56:08
  Speaker 15: you guys see that where let's do with eight and nine,
• 56:11
  Speaker 15: we'd be in a good position to pick up someone
• 56:13
  Speaker 15: next year to really continue to build the foundation of
• 56:16
  Speaker 15: the team for the long term. We go twelve and
• 56:18
  Speaker 15: five and it's two or three years before we can
• 56:20
  Speaker 15: get a decent position to draft get anybody to really
• 56:24
  Speaker 15: help conceive the build the teams for that.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Do you want them to get better or not that? Yeah, Like,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about the draft. I'm worried about winning football.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: And if the option is want, if I have two
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: choices to go twelve and five or eight nine. I'll
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: take twelve and.
• 56:38
  Speaker 10: Five right, Well, twelve and five is pretty intact.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: That's a good but that's a good football if you
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: would if you're twelve and five were bad.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: My urgency to get another good player in the draft
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: is not that high. If I can go twelve and five,
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: the schedule is not that bad that you're just beating
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: twelve bad teams.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: And by the way, if we end up eight and nine,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: we're getting there.
• 56:55
  Speaker 10: So like I'll tank anybody in Washington right now saying
• 56:58
  Speaker 10: we had a top Oh.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: My god, you know we just we cut the line.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: We went to the NBERC Championship game before we got
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: another good draft pick.
• 57:06
  Speaker 15: Like, I know what you guys are saying, if I'm
• 57:08
  Speaker 15: with you, but what that resultant for the long term
• 57:11
  Speaker 15: health of the team. I don't want a two year
• 57:13
  Speaker 15: run when we win a couple of you know, he
• 57:15
  Speaker 15: won this year, Oh boy won this next year?
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: Five years?
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: The problem? Do you think the commander?
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: I just pushed back on the entire premise. Cleveland is
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: a is a pretty talented football team that had no quarterback.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield crapped out if he continued to pay if
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: he didn't get hurt the next year, and he continued
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: to play the way he did the previous year, he'd
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: probably still be in Cleveland and that team wouldn't be
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: that bad. I mean, Miles Barrett's a pretty good player.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: Nick Chubb was a pretty good player. They had talent
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: like that. They didn't like fall apart because they finished
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: too well the previous year and didn't get a high
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: enough draft pick. Baker Mayfield crapped out.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: And the other thing. You know, if you're twelve and five,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: you know you're going to attract better free agents, right,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess the football game.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: That's That's how I would look at it.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: But Drake Mayce on our team. Hopefully the future is now.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: And I would just correct. Mike Ramble said it as
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: introductory press conference that he hopes to be in a
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: position to take advantage of bad football. I don't think
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: he said, I'm confident we can take advantage of bad.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Foot, he said.
• 58:18
  Speaker 10: I think he's at the opposite Yeah.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know, is what he said. If I recall,
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: I use that.
• 58:24
  Speaker 10: I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade, but I
• 58:26
  Speaker 10: just did some of the predictions off the schedule that
• 58:30
  Speaker 10: they're going to win twelve thirteen games. I just like,
• 58:33
  Speaker 10: let's calm down a little bit, like, let's write, can
• 58:35
  Speaker 10: we at least see the team in training camp and
• 58:37
  Speaker 10: see what it looks like?
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: At the same time, can I at least see what
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: the other teams look like too?
• 58:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: It just like I have a lot of games in
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: my head that I think are very winnable. And if
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: Mike ends up being right and they're in a position
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: to take advantage of bad football, I'm expecting them to
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: beat the Carolinas, the New Orleans, the Tennessee's. That's not
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: taken into account whatsoever what those teams are going to be.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: And I used it just the example. What if Tennessee
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: terrible team number one overall pick. What if cam Wood's
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: really good?
• 59:07
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: What if he's as as Fred said C J. Stroud
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: and as I mentioned Jayden Daniels. What if this is
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: the third year in a row that one of these
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: top pick quarterbacks really hits the ground running, Like you're
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: gonna look at that. What if Tennessee goes twelve and
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: five this year and then the Patriots lose to Tennessee,
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: You're gonna look at it as like a terrible loss.
• 59:30
  Speaker 10: I mean, I hope, No, I don't think that's going
• 59:32
  Speaker 10: to happen.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: In full disclosure, I think Tennessee's a long way away.
• 59:35
  Speaker 10: But yeah, I mean, I hope they win as many games.
• 59:37
  Speaker 10: It's as optimistic as some people seem to be, but
• 59:40
  Speaker 10: I just I can't have to see it first, Like
• 59:42
  Speaker 10: it's been three years since they've won. I don't know
• 59:44
  Speaker 10: how you make that.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: Mental leap where you're just like.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: These five or six games that I think are very winnable,
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: and my feeling is you're generally going to go three
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: and three in those games. It's hard to win ten
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: games and not have win all those games against the Carolinas,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: Tennessee's New Orleans.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 10: I would just say that on the positive side, there
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 10: was always going to be an easy schedule on paper
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 10: because of the opponents.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Like it you're a four one team, right, four is.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 10: Going to be an easier schedule regardless of the order
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 10: of the games, but the base off the order of
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 10: the games, like they do have a nice September, Like
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 10: the September sets them up that they could get hot early,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 10: like they could be a three and one team.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I mean I looked at it as maybe
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: they won't be one in three to start the year
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: the way they've been what four years in a row,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: five years in a row, whatever it is, really.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 10: And if you get off to a good start, then
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 10: then then you're rolling and you see what happens. But
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 10: I'm not ready to predict double digit wins. I mean
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 10: I can.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: Predict double digit wins and not be disappointed by the season. Like,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: how how is someone who's predicting twelve or thirteen wins
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: right now going to look at us when they're if
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: they're like middling team and they're about round five hundred,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: and what's the explanation for you told us back? And
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: are you not disappointed? Like it's just it gets so
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: ahead of it that, like I want to see them
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: do it before I give them credit for doing it.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Like you can't just be like it's great, it's gonna
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: be awesome. It just takes away some of the joy
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: of the character Red Sox.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: You know, Red Sox made a lot of good moves
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: in the offseason, and most of the moves they made
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: have worked. Bregman's been great, Crochet's been great, and yet
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: here we are you know, toward the end of May
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: and they're under five hundred yeah, right, all right, Now.
• 1:01:26
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• 1:01:29
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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to the PU Extras, where we
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: read your leftover emails. Guys. If they don't get read
• 1:03:24
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• 1:03:27
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• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Let's happy, dude, Let's get into it again. Sure, all right,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: here we go. Good day, PU crew and last week's
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: PU Newsletter Alex Question. Alex's question of the week was
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: will Eric find love? Eric has already found love. He's
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: in love with himself. You might have also found love
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: in or with Africa, but we won't know for sure
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: until he writes his book. So I guess we'll never know.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I seen Nick Casero getting some kudos for recent drafts
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: by the Houston Texans. Has his time with the Texans
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: made you reevaluate his time with the Patriots? Was Joe
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Cardona cup more because of the performance concerns or more
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: out of desire by the new staff to clear the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: decks of anything that might have the players looking back
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: to former glory years instead of focusing on the future.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Cheers Dan in Virginia in Michigan. I think Va in Michigan, Alex.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the news.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 19: I guess okay, yeah, the news. Other thing?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 20: I wish I got to spend more time with Eric, truly, did.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: You learn a lot of wild I love scal He
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: gives a bit of Brian Griffin sometimes from family guys. Yeah,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: but he's the man. He's uh. I think he's traveling though.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 19: Oh yeah, I good times.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sertain. I always joke about this du duce.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's watched papers games since he left.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Did you overlap with him at all?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 20: For like maybe a week and a half If that,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 20: he was very nice met it was great, But like,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 20: I don't blame him if he hasn't watched a game
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 20: like I've been.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: He's been doing it for I was doing it to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: quit a job.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 20: And never step foot in there again. For ye, Like
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 20: when I quit Marshalls, which was my first job, I
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 20: didn't shop again out of Marshall's TJ max until like
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 20: I was twenty to targeting TJ Max.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: That was it TJ al Right. So to Nick Cassario,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: kudos for his recent drafts. Obviously he was here, but
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: he was working with Bill who I think Bill had
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the override with a lot of stuff. But he made
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: that crazy trade for Will Anderson with CJ. Stroud, He's
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: done the big splash moves.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 21: So yeah, I mean, I think Casario obviously being kind
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 21: of like the lead guy over there, helps him be
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 21: a little.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 10: More loose with how we want to handle things.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 21: And I think he's done a pretty good job over there.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 10: The Texans.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 21: I mean the Texans are going to be a really
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 21: good team the next few years.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering about their O line though.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 21: Yeah, they're definitely skeptical there. But I I five confidence
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 21: of CJ. Stroud to be able to be a gamer.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 21: And I mean I don't put him in the same
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 21: field as Joe Burrow, but like Joe Burrow and his
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 21: own line hasn't been great for that long.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 10: And I mean Joe Burrow can make things happen.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 21: It's dangles can compete.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: It's interesting because as a GM, you really make waves
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: when you do the sexy trades, and that's what he's
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: been doing. So didn't do a lot of that here,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: but he had some good, good years here.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Third part is the question and Joe Cardona, I think
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: we've we've talked about this on PU before. I think
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: it's kind of let's let's move on to the future.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Like it's a long.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 19: Snapper, Like I agree with a little bit of both.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Like he hit some some questionable snaps. Yeah, I'm surprised
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: it happened when it did. I thought he'd make it
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: to training camp.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 20: Me too, And I just think he was kind of
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 20: It's not like he was like a huge male guy
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 20: or a huge Oh he was kind of a big
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 20: bill guy.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 19: But I don't know.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 20: I just I thought he was good for like the culture,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 20: but I don't know.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 22: But you're trying to establish It's like, once you kind
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 22: of make that change with da who's been like your
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 22: stage blue guy for years now, like once that switch happens,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 22: Cardona justfently too.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 21: But once Cardona kind of as just a long snapper,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 21: it's hard to just like, you know, you could just
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 21: go a different direction at any point realistically with that position.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 21: So I mean, I think it just kind of falls
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 21: to like, you know, new new time, a new day
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 21: in New England.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: So well, we'll see how Ashby does. Yeh Julian passing
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: the torch new Julian and Bosba Julian as all right.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Email from Bobby and Squantum. Just want to give a
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: shout out to Paul for looking so slim these days.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: But somebody's got to give the guy a number for
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: a good tailor. I saw him wearing a suit on
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: All Access and he looked like David Byrne something.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 19: Anymore. You lost too much.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: That's a good thing. That is a good thing. Yeah,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: maybe a little, Alex, you should take the Pu crew shopping.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 19: Okay, So you just took the words out of my mouse.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 20: I have a very close family friend who for years
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 20: was like a really high profile tailor down in Palm
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 20: Beach on Worth Avenue. So those are of you who
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 20: are familiar with that. It's big money at a place
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 20: called Trillium. And I'm just like picturing Paul in a
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 20: place like that where everything is like custom made, imported
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 20: Kashmir from Europe. Like, can you imagine Paul going in
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 20: there to.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Get a I should do it before next year's draft.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 20: Also, send me to Palm Beach with Paul and we'll
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 20: play some golf.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 19: We'll get him a new suit. I think it'd be great.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Content had that place too. For Evan, we'll get a
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: custom cues.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 21: It needs new cuss yea rot.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: A little, just a little all right? Subject subject? Do
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: you read emails? That's what I'm doing right now, uh
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: from Matt and Devin UK. I love you guys, but
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: do you ever read emails from anyone other than the
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: same few people. I've emailed a lot and never get read.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Here you go, Devin, anyway, I know there will be
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: some player comparisons going forward, such as Henderson and Luther Burden,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Williams and Jalen Nowell, et cetera. The one I'm more
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: fascinated by is us and the Bears over the next
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: few years. I love our free agency and draft, but
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I also love what the Bears have done in free
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: agency and the draft. It'll be interesting to see how
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: both teams compare with the young quarterbacks that we could
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: have had, and that we could have had Ben Johnson
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: but chose. Brabelin said.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 19: Comparison is the thief of joy.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Dyke was not Fred's back of the envelope guy, but mine.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 23: It's not DK, all right, Jesus dKH Anyway, I emailed
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 23: it and them and haven't laughed at me and said
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 23: that DK may not even get drafted, haven't you?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: And I will come back to the subject. Oh my god,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: if you're right, I'll buy you lunch of them. Right,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: I'll get a formal apology in a PU T shirt.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: So let's get to the T shirt that's coming now,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: because I've been working on yes, tirelessly. It'll have to
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: it's the it'll be. It'll be there by twenty twenty six.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: But the Bears and Patriots. Interesting because I.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Love that conversation.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Huh. I love that the Bears Patriots comparison time. Yeah yeah,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: I mean Williams.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 21: They've upgraded different or pretty much all the same positions,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 21: just different guys. So it's like, honestly, just who's which
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 21: guys are going to be the ones they are going
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 21: to perform, you know, like they have they won with
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 21: the Dunes. They they have upgraded their whole line. They
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 21: believes their guards. Yes that's fair enough, they do have
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 21: the upside there, but you know, they have focused a
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 21: lot on their offensive side of the wall, and I
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 21: think the Pats uh a little bit more of the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 21: defensive side, but have upgraded their off too.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 10: So I mean, I'm excited to kind of see what happens.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: We'll see when they play again the two revamped teams.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 20: There one thing real quick on just how to get
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 20: your emails read.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 19: Fred has touched on this a little bit on the show.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 20: But the subject of the email is important, but sometimes
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 20: people bait him with like a really creative or like
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 20: a clickbait headline. Right, So he said that the first
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 20: few lines of your email are really important because it
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 20: shows up in the preview so got creative.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: There, there we go, all right. Kamel from Georgia one
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: talking about Adam Vinitary had me thinking, how do you
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: guys feel about Stephen Gostkowski. I mean it's a great kicker. Yeah,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: all the time you go from military to gostkalk spoilt
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: And honestly, the only complaint I have was Gostkowski is
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: when they push the Pats back. He missed in the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: AFC Championship against the Broncos. That I'd meant, think.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 19: Of another negative memory.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a good thing.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 21: Yeah, you don't like betweenskouscheme kick Folk, Nick Folk.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah that was a our trio.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 20: Yeah, but I think Goskowski invent Terry were in a different.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I'm not if you're talking transition, yeah,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: for sure. Kickers here, yeah, talking consistency are good. But
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: now I'll see what Bory got is little.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 19: I did my draft profile on him. Fired up?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right for a kicker, fired up, feeling missed.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 21: I think eight total kicksal case.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: A little game here, good afternoon. Knowing how much Paul
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: enjoys these games, don't worry, we enjoy them too, and
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Fred despises them. And and emails in general. I've made
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: a way too early over undergame for the Patriots for
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: the upcoming season. All right, first one win, seven point
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: five over. I'm optimistically going over.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 19: I'm going speaking into existence over.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, May passing touchdowns thirty and a half,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: thirty point five under. I'm going going under on that.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Ma interceptions ten under.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 10: He had eleven last year.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 19: Under.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: It's gonna improve, I'll say under. Actually i'll say over,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: but I think some will be like the booty one
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: in Arizona where I'm gonna slips off the hand. No,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: I'm saying I'll say over, but like eleven, like not
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: by a lot so negative Digs receiving yards eight hundred
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: over over, yeah over. Patriots haven't had a thousand receiver
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: in a very long time. Yeah, all right, over, I
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: like that Williams receiving yards over four hundred.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 17: Let it go.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'll say over for that too. I
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: know I'll be optimistic and say I'm.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 10: Gonna say over for that.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's crazy market.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 19: There's so much competition position.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: In Washington, all right. In college Gonzo interceptions three going over,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna push over, give it to me, all right.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say he gets three white SAT five No,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: no under under? Yeah under? All right, games scoring thirty
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: plus two and a half, I'm going over. I'm gonna
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: go under because we took the wins is over? Yeah,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm go going I think all right, game
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: scoring lessons wins games, game scoring lessons twenty two under,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: game game scoring less than twenty five ten.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 21: Well, if I went under on the other one, I
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 21: feel like, yeah, going on there, I have to go under.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Yet, Okay, you over?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 19: Sorry, twenty seven points is such a sweet spot.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty five, I know, but that's always.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 19: Under thirty. I'm gonna say over.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, hope you enjoyed guys. Kyle from Pemberg.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: I think Paul would have enjoyed it too. But you know,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: we got to enjoy it, all right. Last one evan
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Star Wars George Lucas added number added episode numbers of
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: the Star Wars film in nineteen eighty one. Or do
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: you when you realized he'd likely have the money to
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: make an entire story he envisioned. I could be wrong,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: but I think that means the titles are older than Evan. Regardless,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Evans take about how some people say they're one, two
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: and three feels as hilarious as how he hates watermelon
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: because it's wet and can't stand Pam Beasley because she
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: wanted to paint Robin in Alaska.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 10: I mean, I agree with the Pam take.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 19: I don't know Canas from the Office too.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I don't like the Office. You're a fake, it's overrated. Whatever, Okay,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: I think that's you can take. I mean, yeah, Alex
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: star Wars, I.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 19: Have nothing to say.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 21: I'm gonna say I like Star Wars, but I the
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 21: people that say that. So he say, Evan says it's one,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 21: two three, thanks, like the first three or the first three? Yeah,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 21: I disagree with that because the order of operations doesn't
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 21: make sense.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: No, Phantom Menace is the first one. Yeah, okay, okay,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: all right, so we're all clear. Perfect Evan bad take.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 19: Yes for planning that up for me.
• 1:14:54
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• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: History, come on, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Felger still to this day.
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  Speaker 2: Felger is not the end all be all of conversation.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: There's other people saying.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: Stuff and a lot of people. The only one guy
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: was all Brady. It's only when he said that while
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: Brady was here with Bill who said that.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: Tons of people who on this show. I mean, do
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: I have to go back to the eat.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: I've never said that, So you better not be insinuated.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: You're talking about emailers, callers.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: There's only one guy on whose voice matters in the town,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: and it's Michael. I mean the guy. He's the only
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: guy even.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: Moves to need.
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  Speaker 2: Whip.
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  Speaker 4: That's a lot of hero worship you think. I think
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: he's insane.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't know you had such a love it.
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  Speaker 24: I couldn't possibly disagree with him more. It's got nothing
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 24: to do with hero what he thinks. He thinks that
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 24: they could win the division with Brian Oyer. I couldn't
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 24: possibly disagree with There's nothing to do with hero worship.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 24: But don't tell me that Glenn wood Way. He has
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 24: a pulse on anything that's going on. Yes, Bill, Yes, Bill,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 24: don't see what Bill?
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  Speaker 10: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Should wives get together? Are we going to do this
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: this weekend?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: Okay? Bill?
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  Speaker 1: That's another great moment.
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• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Like I said, every team should have a linebacker named Jack.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Now we do. So that's good. Check that box. Do
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: you like that?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 10: Evan?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: See they're not reruns if you've never heard them, But
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: that's right. That forever and then gave me the pop
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: that you wanted.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: I did that forever. All right, let's get to some
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: of these emails. Jake in Melbourne, uh says, maybe it's
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: just different expectations or maybe not getting caught up in
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: the current state of mind of some fans, where teams
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: with similar records as the Patriots last year are suddenly
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: bookmarked as wins for this year. I feel like this
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: year will or should be a year of exploration. I'm
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: not sure about everyone else, but I have the vast
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: majority of the roster where I don't know what they'll produce,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: good or bad. While excited and optimistic about the new regime,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of fans are seeing this
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: upcoming season as a guaranteed major improvement on the last
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: few seasons record wise, But I think expectations should be tempered.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: I agree with that email very much.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: But is there a difference between expectations being tempered and
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: enthusiasm shouldn't be in.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: A good Yeah, And I would also say not to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: bog it into semantics like I often do. Is you
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: know what would you consider great improvement? Because I am
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: very confident that this team is going to be improved. Yeah,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: me too, I'm extremely confident of that. I don't know
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: what that translates to number of wins. Evan and I
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: were talking off air a little bit. You know, if
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: they were to win, say eight games, I think based
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: on the tenor of some fans, I think there'd be
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: some disappointment. I'd be out of my mind excited, Like
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: you doubled your win total in year one. I think
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: that would be cause for a lot of celebration.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 10: They're gonna win more than four games, yes, but that's
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 10: how I feel. How many you know, we'll see, but
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 10: they're gonna win more than four games, and I think
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 10: eight and nine. Like, you just want it to be
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 10: headed in the right direction, you know, you want to
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 10: see that arrow pointed upward and win some games that
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 10: you wouldn't have won the last couple of years, maybe
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 10: in styles that you wouldn't have won them in. Like
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 10: can you score into the thirties and win a game?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: That's a good point too. How the wins come about,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: that's a good.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 10: Point, Like you know, going back to you know, obviously
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 10: twenty one, twenty two, the twenty two season, Really they
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 10: were eight and nine, weren't they? And but that team
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 10: wasn't good, Like you could tell that that team couldn't score.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, they only had one way to win, right, But.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 10: Is can this team win thirty five thirty one against Miami?
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: Can they or come from behind?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 10: Right? Can they come from behind? Can Drake may orchestrate
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 10: a fourth quarter comeback or a game winning driver or two?
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 10: Like if they start doing those types of things, even
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 10: if the win total isn't crazy, like that's what you want,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 10: it's start to see.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: I feel a little bit broken by the last couple
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: of years and just not trusting myself. I've seen some
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: stuff the.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Shelter when he kept getting because I felt.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: Enthus I'm an enthusiastic guy. Anyway, It's not a high
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: bar like and I think all NFL fans at this
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: time year should have some enthusiasm for their for their team.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: But you know, was I too enthusiastic about terrible teams
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: a couple of the last couple of years?
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: Am I am? I walking myself into the same kind
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: of false belief. I really, really, really, truly in my
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: heart believe that this team is going to be better,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: that they will be a solid football team. I don't
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: know exactly what it'll mean, but I'm still questioning myself
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: based on the last couple of years.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: And listen, even even if I didn't see them, I
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: have to admit that last year the signs were there
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: of maybe they're.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 9: Not brought back same team.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I was, you know, refusing to see them.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: And it's stupid always coming through of like Paul mentioned this,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: damn man, it's been right way too much since I
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: started working here.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: So someone who you know, maybe did see some signs
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: last year. Fishers in the damn or whatever you want
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: to call them, What do you think this year? Do
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: you think? Do you know?
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm not talking about abstract things that I don't know,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: Like last year when everyone told me the offensive line
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: coach was going to be great because he had a
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: different system. I don't know any of that, right, I
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: can't control. I don't see just in terms of like
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: I'm just talking about the players. Do I think it's
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: better this year than last year? Yes, because I think
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: they went out, as Alex just said, and replaced guys
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: on the roster with players that I think at least
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: are better. And this is why I never got on
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: board with the over the top enthusiasm last year. At
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: this time, you ran it back. You brought in a
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: rookie quarterback and otherwise ran it back. And I was
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: excited about the rookie quarterback, but I didn't think it
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: was going to translate to a lot of success because
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: generally it doesn't work like Jayden Daniels and c J. Stroud.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: Generally it works like Drake May last year. You have
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: struggles even when the guy exhibits a level a level
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: of competence. And I would say that's what Drake May
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: did last year. He looks like he knows what he's doing.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: But generally that doesn't translate to a dramatic spike in victory.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 10: I mean, I was probably more optimistic about bringing some
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 10: of the guys they brought back. But as soon as
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 10: we got into training camp, I mean, they couldn't block anybody.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 10: So the practices were pretty obvious right away that that
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 10: Eagles practice.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: The Eagles practice was ground zero for that. That was
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: it for me, right. I knew I was right when
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: I saw that practice and they can't block.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 10: And he also just put it on top, you know,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 10: some of the coaching stuff that was going on too,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 10: and it just it didn't look right.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: So I can sit there and I can convince myself
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: that all of these coaches that are coming in are
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: better than that. But I might go out of training
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: camp and watch them have a joint practice against either
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: Washington or Minnesota, you know, those are the first two
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: preseason games, and say, you know what, this coaching staff
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: looks a lot like last year's coach staff.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: I think it's better. I think Doug Moron and Josh
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: McDaniels will make the offense better, but you don't know
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: until you see it.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Kyle and Pembroke. I have three hot takes and predictions
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: in response to the schedule release that I want you
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: guys to react to. I know it's too early for
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: any of these, but why not One the Patriots will
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: be four to zero in prime time games this year.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 10: They only have three, right, so that's false.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Two Week eighteen versus Miami will be a win and
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: get a get in game for both teams. In regards
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: to the wild card making it a prime time game. Oh,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: he says a win and get in It won't be
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: a win. It'll be a win and get in game.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: That's going to be flexed into and that's where he's
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: getting the fourth prime time got Okay, Okay, I see
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: it's not not far fetched, not far fetching that could happen.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, Three, This easy schedule and he has easy in quotes,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: just so you know, will be harder than people think.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: The Panthers, Titans, and Giants all have the potential of
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: being better this year and could be more difficult than expected.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: What do you think I agree with that?
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 10: Sure, I would not pick those teams, but I think
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 10: there's always a chance that teams are better.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: Than what you team that people just think is a
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: layup in. I think if Kenny Pickett, as an example,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: just was what do you what do you? And Alex
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: call it net neutral? If Kenny Pickett was just net neutral.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: I think that team could be decent, like a seven
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: to eight nine win team as opposed to a three
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: or four win team, and that could be a tougher
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: game than you think. I'm kind of with Evan on
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: the others. I don't really see it. With Carolina or
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: Tennis New Orleans I think is dreadfully bad.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 10: Zero. The league thinks they're dreadfully YEA.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Kamel from Georgia writes in one what are your thoughts
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: about people wanting an NFL draft.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: Lottery seeing that a lot lately that's a thing.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: Well, my thing is other than the first round. You
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: keep it the same, but the first round is a
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: complete lottery, all teams involved, thirty two teams.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: Let's let's Christmas Fret's theory of how the Patriots could
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: get the first overall pick after winning.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: And then and then the rest of the rounds go
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: back to record.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 10: So the reason why people are pushing for this is
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 10: because of the of the television stuff like it's a
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 10: The NBA draft lottery does decent numbers, so an NFL
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 10: draft lottery will do.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: The NHL lottery got a little tracksh not like the
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: na will do huge numbers.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 10: So like people like Adam Scheff are going on ESPN
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 10: and vouching for an NFL draft lottery. He's looking at
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 10: his his wallet and saying, this would be a great
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 10: television event for us to do this. The NFL doesn't
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 10: need a lottery, Like the NFL doesn't have a tanking issue.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 10: There's just teams that aren't very good. That doesn't mean
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 10: they're tanking. Like the Patriots last year had all the
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 10: reason in the world to tank. In the last week
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 10: of the season, they won the damn game. So like,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 10: how is that that's not tanking?
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: They don't play enough games to really tank, right.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 10: Like the NBA has a tanking problem. They have teams
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 10: like Utah who have for three years now, I've purposely
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 10: tried to lose games like that.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: That's but what about the purgatory issue, Like if you
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: are a middling team year after year, it's easy to
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: stay middling because you never really get a shot at
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: that that great player.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 9: I don't think it's happened this year.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, Dallas is gonna get Cooper Flag after trading Luka,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: but you know, and.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 10: They had a one eleventh best chance to get it.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think purgatory is a problem in the NFL.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: It can be a problem in the winter leagues. Yes,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: I think taking it.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 10: As a problem in the NBA, which is what the
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 10: lottery is for. But like the thing with the tanking
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 10: is is like, if you're Utah, how else are you
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 10: going to get better? Besides getting a top draft pick.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 10: You're not drawing any free agents, You're not pulling off
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 10: any trades. Like, so the only way that a team
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 10: like Utah gets better is by getting Cooper Flag, Like
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 10: that's the only way they can do it. That's not
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 10: the case in the NFL. At the end of you
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 10: can build a roster in different ways in the n
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 10: the field than you can in the NBA. And I
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 10: just I don't think it's a big issue.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: I agree, I don't think. I think there's a lot
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: of middling teams that have plenty of ways to get talent,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: like you, I mean, everybody can get free agents, and
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: everybody can draft good players. In the first round. In
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: the NBA, there's like three good players, so the idea
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: is drafted.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 6: And aside from the quarterback and position in football like
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: basketball is so different, where one player really can the
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: entire dynamic of a team football.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: There's just so many quarters.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 9: That's why, that's why I preface it.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: I like it, Fred I, I'm maybe on the opposite side.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: I'm with you, I don't. I mean, I agree with
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: everything Evan saying. I just think it takes that whole
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: element out of it. And how many teams are always
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: picking in the top ten, like they're always up there.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: And I'm sick of the team in the top ten
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: and then they don't get better, but.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 10: They're only going to be They're not going to do
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 10: a thirty two teams.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: No, just because no one does. It doesn't NBA does
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: top ten.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: Teams that don't make the NHL. I believe it's not
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: everybody that doesn't.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: Make the PA.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: I'd be on board with that. I don't know if
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: I could get on board with the I don't hate.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: The idea of a lottery. I wouldn't say no, But
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: I agree with Evan if that if they do it,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: it's only because of it's not it's not to solve
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: a problem because they want more money problem, and that's
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: what And I would argue that it hasn't really worked,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: to be honest, But I do agree with you. It
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: was all about I think there was a year that Houston.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: I think there was like a tanking to miss the playoffs.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean teams really bad like Dallas, like probably
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 10: could have pushed at the end of the season to
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 10: be in the play in and they purposely didn't.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: They weren't in the plan.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 10: No, I mean no, I don't think so well they
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 10: they might have been, but they they got into this
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 10: position on purpose, like they obviously they trade Luca, but
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 10: like they got.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: Into the position after that trade too, and.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 10: They they pulled the plug on the season to get
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 10: into the lottery, and they got lucky. They the ping
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 10: pong balls fell their way.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: Ultimately lucky too. Does Cam Williams going to the Broncos
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: mean anything for the Patriots?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: They're gonna have to hire a new guy, But I
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: think that's a loss.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: I think that he's a guy that was uh well
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: thought of, and I think he did a good job.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: I think people considered him very competent at his job,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: got a promotion. Now, we liked him obviously because we
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: had him on the you know, like the draft shows.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: We had some good interaction with him. But I think
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: he's well and I think I.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: Think, you know, everybody's looking like where am I going
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: to be in two three years? And I think here,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: you know now that with Rabel in, but Elliott's not
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: going anywhere. He brought rabel brought with him, you know.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: So plus it's a promotion for him, like yeah, so
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: he he wants to go to rise up there.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: They had two guys just leave higher ups under is
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: it Patent or Peyton? How do you pronounce Patton? George Patten?
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah, but they I mean, no disrespect to camp Williams,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 10: so I liked and got to know a little bit
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 10: is a great guy. I mean he was not making
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 10: any real decisions here.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: No, right, you know that wasn't That's what I'm saying.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: It's a promotion, Yeah, because he's going to be in
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: a decision. Well he's going to have input more I
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: think with Denver than he did. Yeah.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I just remember talking to you know, Elliott at
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 10: the combine and like when they had like a will
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 10: Campbell Travis Hunter level prospect that Macro was the one
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 10: that was actually writing the scouting reports for those players
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 10: for the Patriots, not not cam So like they like
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 10: that those types of high level decisions were were out
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 10: of his hands.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: And finally, with the schedule coming out, what games times
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: do you like more? The one four, twenty five or
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: prime time one o'clock.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: We're all, yeah, that's my favorite part of the schedule.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: It was all these one o'clock games.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam and Saint Catharine's am I crazy for thinking
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: that we could upset the Ravens. Maybe I'm re I'm
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: ring things incorrectly, but I believe Rabels Titans were a
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: constant pain in the behind for the Ravens. And no
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: one knows Derek Henry's strengths and weakness is better than him.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll have some surprises losses too, and ultimately
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: I think will be somewhere in the hunt, whether that's
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: wild Carter just missing the cut.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: So they beat them in the playoffs right when they
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: went to the AFC Championship game. Lamar's rookie year, right,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: not his rookie year, but that first year that he
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: was an MVP, his first MVP BEF the Titans.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 10: I thought it was that rookie season, but maybe that
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 10: was the Chargers that beat him.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Chargers beat him in the playoffs. Yeah, but again,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: an AFC Championship caliber roster gave Lamar Jackson trouble not
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: a four and thirteen team. But yeah, I mean again,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: I don't tell you that upsets don't happen. Last year,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: I believe that the Ravens lost like four or five games.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: They lost to the Raiders, they lost to someone else
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: that was really bad and I can't remember now remember,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: but good teams lose to bad teams. Cincinnati lost to
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: the Patriots last year ultimately knocked them out of the playoffs.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: They would have been in the playoffs with ten wins
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: they had they won that opening game. So upsets happened.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I five Pats five hundred is the hotline. Let's
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: go to Randy in Providence. What's up, Randy?
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 25: Hey, guys, how's it growing at a good So I'm
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 25: one of the more optimistic guys I guess about the
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 25: Patriots there. I think eight to ten wins is perfectly
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 25: reasonable to built for anyway.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 11: It may do not expect, but I do.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 26: Think like two of the big takeaways that I had
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 26: from the schedule coming out.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 25: Last night is that Game one is the Raiders, right,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 25: They're coming here.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 26: And we expect that offense to kind of be built.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 25: Around the Rush a lot, and particularly around a rookie
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 25: running back who I looked up in his game log.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 25: He's only played once in the Eastern time. That was
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 25: last year with a four PM.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: Can we please retire that?
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 10: No, No, it's a thing, not a thing. Ten a
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 10: m body clock.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: The whole West coast coming east is not a thing anymore.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: It's a thing like Seattle last last year and week.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 10: You stick to your take.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, I've heard this this take about twelve times today.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: I'm done with.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 25: But I think a rookie running back making his first
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 25: trip to the East coast.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: For early year not going to Mars.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 25: Be a little grown up.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 26: But then the second game that I took a look
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 26: at and I liked was that Cincinnati Bengals game. I
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 26: think that's a game that they could potentially see. And
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 26: I think that's because you're coming off ten days Rush.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: I think I heard that guy this morning.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 25: Fingers crossed a Jets home win. But the Bengals have
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 25: is why was before us and the Ravens four days
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 25: after us? And I think they could be looking through us.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, could could be so if all the other teams
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: stink and roll over. The Patriots will have a great
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: year print out on a slogan.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: Randy, I like it. I'm with you. Eight to ten
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: is completely rare.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know, but Ashton genty will
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: not know how to run in the Eastern time zone.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: It's a ten a m.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 10: Bodyclock game, Paul.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: Correct, He's never been in the East coast, so he's
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: gonna be like, that's not what I'm saying. It's not
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: like the turf, and I hope the blue. I hope
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: that just a green turf.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 10: And then I hope that they pulled the fire alarm
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 10: at the hotel at like three o'clock in the morning.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: It's gonna happen.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: We're gonna win.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 10: No, you take out all the things you need and
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 10: they pull that fire alarm.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: If you were playing at Mars, Paul, you would want
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: Askton gent.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: Cleveland's Baltimore also lost in Cleveland last.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: Year, loss to the Patriots.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 10: That's a division game.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: They're gonna lose again this year because they're going to
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: be looking ahead to the next game.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: That's right, right.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: I got a question.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: Is there a difference between like an upset and a
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: game that and a win that actually means something like
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: sometimes you're like, you catch a team at the right time. No,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: it doesn't prove an you think that.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: Can be the same thing last year the low But
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: that's not really and that was situational, right, Like, but Cincinnati,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: they upset Cincinnati, Why didn't that mean anything?
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: Because well, for them, ultimately, they weren't a team that
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: could be They weren't a team on that level of Cincinnati.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: They were a tier and it turns out wasn't that great.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: But an upset, that's true. But an upset is an upset.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: But that means the better team talent wise lost to
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: the inferior team. Whether that means that the inferior team
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: is better than we thought, it's still meant something. They
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: still beat a team that was better than them.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, but fair enough.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: No, but I hear what you're saying to Mike, Like,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: in hindsight, you look back and go, you know, at
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: the time, we thought it was a big upset, but
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: it really wasn't.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: Wasn't that good or you were a lot better?
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it was marketably better than the Patriots.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: Of course, that was as big en upset as you
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: can get.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but That's why when like people took it
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: looking like Baltimore and like we could upset them. Well, yeah,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: like you're saying that maybe Lamar has a terrible game
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: and it's in the wind, or you know, there's a monsoon,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: or the Patriots are just a better football team than
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: the Ravens. Like there's a big difference between that at No.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: I got your question.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: A lot of times when people call in and say it,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: they're saying more like they're gonna be the better team
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: than the Ravens that night, rather than I think everything's
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: gonna line up for them in week seventeen and they're
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: gonna be able to be the race.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: So when the pink upsets happened, I think sometimes the
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: better team doesn't win the game. Now, does it always
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: mean something in the long term, nor, to answer your question,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: sometimes it does. But like Fred said, what if the
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: Patriots are like ten and four going into that game,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: I still would think Baltimore is better than them and
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: they could upset them, and it would mean plenty. It
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: would mean that you're really good too.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: And no.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: One when the Patriots were fourteen point underdogs to the Rams,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: huge upset, but in hindsight, were the Patriots that were
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: they underrated?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: I think maybe a little day we knew it was real.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: You know, were they better than we? You know, people
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: were giving them credit for it. Should it have been fourteen?
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: Should have been more like six?
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: I mean maybe this is a bibie question, but like
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: to have the Patriots had a meaningful win over the
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: last two years, like legitimately.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 10: I think the game that they beat Buffalo here in
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 10: twenty I don't know, I know, I know, I.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: Know, I think I think there can't be any meaningful
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: wins unless you end up in the playoffs.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 10: Right at the time, that game, I think felt like
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 10: a meaningful game. They hadn't beaten Josh Allen and really
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 10: solved that problem. Beat it beat a good team. It
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 10: was a come from behind, like fourth quarter.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: It wasn't because you couldn't throw the ball because of
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: the weather.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 10: Now granted it was like one screen that he took
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 10: like forty yards to drive.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: But I mean, if you say it a game, what meaning.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 10: I mean like just throwing that out.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: But if you say game has a meaning, it was
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: a meaningful win.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: Pop, what is the meaning? What was what?
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 10: It turned out not to be anything?
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: But in the moment, it wasn't meaningful.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 4: Well, in hindsight it.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 10: Was, but in the moment, it felt like that was
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 10: the one thing they had.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: Everyone is great in the moment, but like, no, this
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: you had to take the question in the spirit.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 10: That it was me that that the game last year
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 10: in Cincinnati was not great in the moment. Even Gerard
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 10: knew that it.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: Wasn't great in the moment.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 10: Are you kidding, room, Yeah, it felt like they won
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 10: the Super Bowl one game.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: It was great in the moments.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: Okay, but even the coach that the way they played
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: was so obviously but no, but it was the way
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: they had to play to win, and they did it.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: But it required the other team pooping all over it.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: They took advantage of bad football.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 10: When when the when I the next day that was
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 10: even sat himself that that game was of course, I
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 10: would say that the Buffalo game from two years ago
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 10: that Evan's talking about was a lot more.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 4: Sure. It wasn't just because Buffalo didn't bring it that day.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: The Patriots played well. They did, and they stuck around,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: and they hung around, they hung around, and they stole.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: It wasn't the game from which the Patriots then got better.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 10: But you know it WASNTI game.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: Right, so at the end of the day, but there
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: was two things he was talking about in the moment.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: It was a great win, it didn't turn out to
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: be a meaningful win. It did both to be true.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 4: Can you give me an example of a meaningful win?
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: I have one.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: I have one.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: You know, the season finale last year it was a
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: meaningful win because it.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: Mean that's a semantic argument that I be prue. But
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: can you honestly, because I think Fred the only thing
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: the way you can have a meaningful win is if
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: it ends up in the Super Bowl winning season or
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 4: like you get.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 10: Maybe when they got in Cincinnati last year Week one,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 10: it was it was a nice win for drawd and
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 10: for the regime and all that kind of stuff to
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 10: get the win week one. But everybody came out of
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 10: that game and said, they're never winning a football game
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 10: like that ever again. Even the coach said it that
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 10: they weren't gonna win it. When they beat Buffalo a
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 10: couple of years ago, the conversation around that game was
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 10: it could go one of two ways. This could either
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 10: be a jumping off point or it was, you know,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 10: a blip.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: It was right, And if it was a jumping off,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: then it would have become a meaningful game. But it wasn't.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a meaningful game, but the time, in the moment,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: it was a great win.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: I think you can win games that don't ultimately lead
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: to tremendous success that are meaningful. Sure, you know, I
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: can't even think of one off the top of my
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: head now, but I think.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: Forrest two years, it's hard to have eight.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: Because I don't think they've had I don't think they've
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 4: had any meaningful I think the closest to a meaningful
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 4: win is that Buffalo again, right, It has to mean something,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: But that meant something that was a good win.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: But a meaningful game in twenty twenty three would have
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: been faith restored in Belichick and the system and that
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: the guys are on board, because it felt like that was.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: They had a lot of meaningful losses.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: It's hard to find it last year. I mean, then,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: I think you're right to point to that, since when
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: it was just a proof that they could win a game,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: regardless of how it looked. But ultimately, in the grand
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: scheme of things, it wasn't mean. It wasn't, you know,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: I think it goes back to what Fred said, like,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: I'm just happy I've gotten us onto a weird puse sman.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: No, I like it. I like it, but I like
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: sort of looking at things from different levels.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I mean. The root of it, though,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: is when people call in and they say, like, I
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: think the Patriots could beat the Ravens, Like, of course
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: they could win any single one of these games.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: Everybody tells you they can't.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: The meaningful win right after the Patriots aren't good anymore.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: They came and they beat the Bengals. That was a
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: meaningful win.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: So but that was only because they went on to
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl. According to you, Yeah, it meant
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 4: that they To me, you get backed into a court.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: I think I think the Celtics winning last night was
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: a meaningful win even if they lose tomorrow night, okay,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 4: because I think that they sort of had two choices.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 4: You can tucktail and home and feel sorry for yourself. Well,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: you can stand up and be a championship caliber team
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 4: and do what you're supposed to do to an inferior
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 4: opponent at home.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: I think this meaning in that whether it leads to
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 4: a comeback from three to one happen to agree with you, like,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think what happens after a should impact whether
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: or not you're thinking.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 10: For Celtics fans, and I needed that game.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: I needed it.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: Meaning to you.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 10: I was sitting there like first quarter second for me,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 10: I couldn't get myself.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: If they tomorrow night, I'll feel better than I would
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: have if they lost last night. Sure, and I know
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: that sounds silly.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing. At least I'll feel better.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I feel better that meaning it had meaning.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 4: I'll continue to cross sports. Mike, you don't remember this.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: Probably no one else will because no one else cares.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: The very beginning of the sort of rebirth of the Bruins, like, oh,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 4: eight ish, they had a seven game first round series
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 4: with Montreal. They won a game at home in game six,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: and then they ended up losing a game seven. I
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: think that was sort of the rebirth of Bruins hockey.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: That game had I think a lot of meaning. Even
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: though they lost the next game, we're out of the playoffs.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: And then it took them what three or four more
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: years to get the cup. But I want to say
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: eight seven eight, maybe a little bit it was like
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: early Chara bergeron that kind of crew.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. How close were the moral victory conversation
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: right now? Like we're like the like the diagram of
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: like moral victories or.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: When you lose, right, that's a luxury. Is a loss
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 4: the only moral victory that I'm willing to even contemplate.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: Fred note will notice when they lost to the Rams
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: in the two thousand and one season, they could compete
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 4: regular season. I think they learned a lot about themselves.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I want to throw more one game out there.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: Would you say when the Patriots Tom Brady went down
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: in Week one of two thousand and eight and then
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: they beat the Jets the next week, that was a
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: comp I used for last night.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: So I will called that a meaningful win. I mean
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 4: a game that they did make the playoffs. Yeah, series
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: a season they didn't make the playoffs, But I do
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: think that was a meaningful showed everybody, It showed everybody
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: would not the.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: Jets Tom Brady.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 4: We still won the Jets. We can win games.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 10: Really, we can't go ahead because that's just like sort
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 10: of how I feel right now about the Celtics is like,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 10: if they keep this team together just minus Jason Tatum,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 10: like they won't stink. They're not they're not They're not
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 10: the favorites to win the title anymore, but like they'll
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 10: have a season next year, Whereas like Tuesday, I was
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 10: like the world is ending and I'm gonna jump off
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 10: a bridge. Like no, but I feel like Facilitation maybe
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 10: win fifty games next year.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 19: You pull them off the ledge.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 4: Right. This is the most aligned I've ever been with Evan.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: In the show I Did It Buffalo two years ago,
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: Celtics talks were like aligned completely.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: Boston Cream's on the hotline. What's up, Boston?
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: I ran Iraq coming together, Boston Cream?
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 26: Hey, what's up?
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: Play?
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 11: I got a quick game. It's called two or none.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 27: For the twenty twenty fives, two or none, So you
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 27: have to pick either two or none. Seven hundred yard receivers, two.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 11: Six hundred yard rosters.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: One one zero.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: It's two or non. Guys, come on zero.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: Two or zero makes it tougher.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: Two, Yeah, I gotta say two.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: Oh two.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, That'll go none on that one. For interception guys,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go none on that one.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: None, yeah, two no.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 10: Faith in Carlton Davis.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 25: Venerian Low starts oh.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 10: Low starts, no disrespect, but hopefully zero none.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say none.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 15: Overtime games.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: Two none none.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 11: Wins against twenty twenty four playoff teams.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 27: They play five games.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 28: Two, so that would be Buffalo, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Man, Tampa,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 28: Tampa Bay two none.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 27: Eric Scalabino girlfriend none seven all right, guys, oiler.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks Boston Cream.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 28: Scal still catching straight, not bart Scale, still scal bart
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 28: on the market?
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: Does he care?
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 10: We're working on it. So we're working on it, you know,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 10: like some people.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: Just don't care. Like he's married to the game, whatever dating.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 9: Show for him.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: That that could be the schedule I get.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 9: I'm sure Bacherette interested in Alex Bart right into the show.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 10: It's a long list, right, It's gonna be a.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: Girl who loves college.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: I don't liking this fixing up Alex. Can we fix
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 4: up Alex?
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 10: I've been trying for five years to know.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: But you don't have the tools our Alex probably have more.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 10: That's fair.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: There's I don't want to speak for Alex. I only
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: speak for my wife. But there's nothing girls like better
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: than setting people up like it is like they got
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: a friend. Oh my god, I know, just the hate.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: They love it. They love it, and I'm like, wage
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: over there, did you get really you had a set up?
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: Well sometimes it works for sure, but they loved his
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 3: sister A lot of tries, a lot of tries.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 4: I know, I had to imagine that this was off
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: the market.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: For well, I know, I saw your problem, pot, I
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: like blue suit powder that Yeah, that was that your
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: like junior promise.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: Oh I didn't have I've lost I've lost powder, blue
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 4: suit in my trou point Miami vice all white. That
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 4: was my senior problem. I roue with a regular black.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 4: I had the regular black dynasty Junior.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: Did you get the hat with the chain?
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: No hat? No one?
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 10: Prom one, prom one, you have no junior problems. It's
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 10: a harbor cruise, Everett, pimp Perila junior Harbor cruise.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: Of the year.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: All right, Michael writes in forgive me, Father Fred, for
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: I have sinned. But Evan is a hypocrite. The second
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: Paul and Duce start talking about Jaws or you talk
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: about speed, Queen, Evan shimes in, can we get back
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: to football? But if the Celtics come up, He's more
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: than happy to spend an hour on not football. You
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: may want to consider a Celtics jar where Evan will
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: have to put a dollar in each time he talks
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: about Celtics on a football show, or maybe you deduct
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: a minute each time from his all twenty two allowance,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: just an idea.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 10: Well, I think an hour is a little bit of
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 10: an exaggeration, maybe, like you know, five to ten minutes
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 10: a show, and I think that's the reasonable hour.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you would you would continue to talk if
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: we you know, right?
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 10: I mean, I'm sorry, but on May fifteenth, I think
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 10: doing more on the Celtics, he's far more interesting than.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: If this was January. You do it. Speaking of hypocrits, No,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: do you think Bill is on a path of tarnishing
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: his patriots legacy where while he'll get in, he won't
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: have the same pomp and circumstance as Brady.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: I don't think he was ever going to have the
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 4: same pomp and circumstances Brady.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think he'd want it.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 4: But yes, the short answer to that question, I would say, yes,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: he's I think really sort of walking that line of tarnishing.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: His I mean, we've had a lot of callers or
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: email or say, hell, come, you guys don't talk about
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: what's going on with him? Like looking at the end
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: of the day, you know who loses out on all
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: this we do? Like why can't we have anything nice?
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 19: Like also, how are people just sick of that?
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 10: I just don't know, like to the Patriots and like
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 10: he's doing this on somebody else's dime, Like this has
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 10: nothing to do with the Patriots. Like the Falcons like
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 10: put it in like their schedule release video as like
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 10: a jab at the Patriots. That really yeah, And I
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 10: just didn't get that. I was, like, he's employed by
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 10: North Carolina Football. He hasn't been the Patriots coaching three years.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 4: Like I don't really I think I might know you
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 4: an apology? You know how you have all these feuds
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 4: with all the teams? Is this where they like sort
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 4: of originate? Is these scheduled videos? And that's why I
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 4: don't ever know.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: What they're talking.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: He explained his gripes. It is it just because this
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: like I would have never known that the Falcons took
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 4: a shot at Belichick in the Patriots in that video.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care what these what people saying this schedule.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 10: V I don't care. I just want the joke to
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 10: be funny, like that has nothing like Jordan Hudson has
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 10: nothing to do with the New England Patriots.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 4: Like she's.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 3: She's been rattling the Falcon's cage with some.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 4: Has she really she did them?
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so that might be what it's about than anything.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: They've They've taken plenty of shots at the Falcons, you know,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: turn about his fair play? Yeah, David, and d C
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: writes in I have learned so much from you all
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: this offseason. One Fred goes over the top rather than
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: through the door. I don't know.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: No, don't you go through the door? I go over
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 4: the top.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Two Paul has a hot sister. Three Mike likes
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: the Celtics as much as he likes Tom Brady. That's
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: not much. Four Alex likes dudes and backwards caps. Evan.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: He still thinks he knows everything about football, and probably does,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: but very little about anything else. Six I miss Andy's
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: advice about swamp ass. Seven it took a year, but
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: the silos finally came down and there appears to be
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: some collaboration. What does that mean?
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 4: Football?
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: Football? Okay? And eight The Pope has a degree in mathematics.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: He not only knows sin, he knows cozy O coast sign.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: That's a master? Is he like?
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 4: It's like trigonometry sign?
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: Okays that that's that wasn't funny?
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: Wow, especially the part about me?
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 25: How dare you.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: By all this West Coast East coast? Paul spiing Frezo says,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: Paul doesn't seem to understand that the grass grows and
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: reverse on the East Coast. This creates an inseparable obstacle
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: and superabol I don't know if that's the way he
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: did play West Coast.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 4: That's a big transition. He's gonna have to learn how
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 4: to play on green Well.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 10: To be fair, though, he used to wear the blue
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 10: jersey on the blue grass and it was hard to
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 10: see him. So maybe now I'll be easier to see
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 10: him and it makes easier to tackle. We gotta think
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 10: of that.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: We've got a hybrid here. It's a California sense of mea.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: The great thing about.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 10: Eastern Washington did the same thing.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: You can smoke it right and what happens Jesus, Jesus,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 4: Jared and Newburyport.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: No one cares about pu degenerate callers in their poopy
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: ass phone lines, never mind what they look like. I
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: heard you guys are gonna resurrect this idea.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 6: Now, yeah, I was waiting for like a lull. We
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 6: had the draft, we had the schedule, so it's gonna
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 6: come soon.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: So I got But are you getting the emails that
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: have coming in?
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 9: OK, unless you've gotten any reason that you haven't.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I noticed some came in after the last show.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: So did you get those? How were you going to
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: get those?
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 4: Going to ask you forward them to me?
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 9: Unprompted?
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: Instead of some bs guessing game, I vote for a
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: conversation between Dan Shaughnessy played by Fred, Pete Carroll played
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: by Paul, and Jackie Mason played by Fred again regarding
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: which current NFL players could excel in the NBA.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 10: Not okay, but.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: They all think they could. They all think they could.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 10: The answer is zero.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Castillo writes in longtime listener, first time emailer.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: Oh it's Edwin in Texas. Oh Hey, Edwin, how you doing?
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to say hello and thank everyone for
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: the great work you guys put in. But the call
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: from Christian in La, Oh my god, I really can't
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: believe fans want to lose for draft positions we are
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: Oh and O geezer man, I hate to lose. Please
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: be more positive. We're going to become the Jets at
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: this rate we're going through right now. I think Christian
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: was trolling us. I actually do no.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: I think he's embracing his No.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: I think he was just doing it to get it.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 10: I think there's genuinely people that believe like there's no
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 10: point in being like, you know, the third wildcard of
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 10: being the seventh seed and losing in the first round
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 10: in the playoffs when you could be picking in the
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 10: top ten and get the draft pick.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: I would say I would not want to be in
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: that spot, like three four years in a row, the
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: way Pittsburgh is right now, and they're kind of on
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 4: that treadmill. And I don't like that treadmill. But if
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 4: you're asking me right now, I would I'd rather be
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 4: four and thirteen or the seventh seed in the playoffs. Like,
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 4: I don't understand how that's even a thought.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: Well maybe I'm wrong, but I felt like Christian was
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 3: implying like he's trying to get back to dynasty status,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: Like he's trying to get a dynasty in place instead
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: of like you're back in the wilderness, but just trying
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: to find a championship.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 4: I'm okay with that sort of grandiose thought, like that's
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 4: that's what I want. I want to get back to dynasty.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 4: But why do you have to go from bottom to
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: dynasty without any steps along the way. Why can't you
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: go seven and ten, eight and nine, then go say
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: ten and seven or eleven and six and then be
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 4: the dynasty caliber team. Why why is the only way
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 4: to make that progression in the top five? Why is
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: that the only way to do it?
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 10: Well, Like, look at Detroit, like they're not a dynasty,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 10: but like Detroit had that one season in between where
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 10: they went like three thirteen and one in Dan Campbell's
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 10: first year, then they wanted where like one game out
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 10: of the playoffs his second year eight right, and then
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 10: the third year there they were the best team in
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 10: the NFC during the regular season. Like that that happens?
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 10: Or like, yeah, you go eight and nine, next year
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 10: you're twelve thirteen wins.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: James in Atlanta by way of Maine. I would venture
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: to say that if the Patriots are twelve and five,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: the draft class has become a nucleus that has probably
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: set up for future success.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: Is so a good point.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good point, Like why are you twelve and five?
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: Right, probably because you've got some good players in your team, now,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 4: And I think his premise was they got some wins
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  Speaker 4: that didn't necessarily mean they were that good. Their record
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  Speaker 4: was better than the team because of the schedule, I
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  Speaker 4: think was his point. But I think I think you
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  Speaker 4: could go, you know, nine and eight, ten and seven
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  Speaker 4: and maybe not be quite as good as the record
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  Speaker 4: because of the schedule. You win twelve at thirteen games,
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  Speaker 4: the way people are talking, you're probably pretty good. That's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of wins, don't you think.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a little too too many for me.
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  Speaker 10: But I don't think like anybody's saying that about Washington.
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  Speaker 10: I keep going back to them, like no one's saying like, oh,
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  Speaker 10: it was a cupcake schedule.
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  Speaker 4: And there's a chance that that that's true. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 10: I have a second year.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that schedule. I think that's often thing
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  Speaker 4: where you sort of take two steps forward to one
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  Speaker 4: step back.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, like Houston still made the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: They did, but they did they absolutely were not as
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  Speaker 4: cohesive on the field in year two of the Stroud era.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see Eric and Maryland. I'm usually amazed at the
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  Speaker 2: way Paul can pull facts and figures out of the
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  Speaker 2: air concerning Patriots games from the past, and I doubt
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  Speaker 2: I could stump he who knows all, But with the
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  Speaker 2: schedule coming out, I decided to take a shot. Just
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  Speaker 2: this morning, I got my tickets to see the Patriots
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  Speaker 2: take on the Ravens on my birthday in December. I've
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  Speaker 2: chalked this game up as a win. Knock on wood,
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  Speaker 2: since the Patriots have won every game I've ever attended.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: Granted I've only been to five games, but still I
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: take full credit for those wins as my aura spurs
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots the victor. My test for Paul is who
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  Speaker 2: were the opposing quarterbacks in those five wins? So the
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  Speaker 2: first one was the Bengals in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 4: Joe that was last year. Yep, Joe Burrow and Kobe Wessett.
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  Speaker 2: Who's the posing quarter Just oh yeah, Burrow, Joe Burrow.
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  Speaker 2: Two the Steelers in twenty three.
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  Speaker 10: Kenny Pickett.
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  Speaker 4: Wasn't it No? It was Trubisky?
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  Speaker 2: Correct. Three the Steelers in twenty two.
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  Speaker 10: That was Kenny Pickett. One of those games is Kenny Pickett.
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  Speaker 4: No, I've played this game before, and the answered to
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 4: one of these questions is Kenny Pickett?
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: Correct? Again again the Panthers in twenty.
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  Speaker 29: One, Panthers in twenty one, so Sam Darnold's correct. And
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 29: finally the Seahawks and.
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  Speaker 4: Eight Seahawks and oaight was Mann Hasselbeck No incorrect?
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  Speaker 3: No wait, oh shoot, don't say this one. I know it.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: Oh God, like Seneca Wallace.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: Correct, Seneca correct game. Now I see why he wins
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: all the games that he goes.
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  Speaker 4: Ye a common theme. So I would anticipate seeing someone
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  Speaker 4: other than Lamar Jackson when you go.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they'll be Cunningham.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: All right. Final final email Cam Camrion Cam Yuron from Inglewood, California.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: You know where Inglewood. In terms of the schedule release,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: I'm most excited for a week five prime time on
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: the road. I personally think that has to be Drake
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: May's coming out game. Hope he can plan his flag
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: and put the league unnoticed that he's here to stay.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: The Patriots are back to being relevant again. What better
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: tests for the team than against the division champs.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: It's a good game. Nice to avoid Buffalo and January.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 3: They've been late there the last couple of years.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 4: Chances of that game getting flexed out.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 10: By week five, I don't think.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: Not early in the season.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 3: I'd say better chance for the can they fox the
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: Monday night game? Yeah, the Giants game later in the season.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: That would be where my money would be talking flexing,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 3: I would agree.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, listen, it's been fun, but it's over.
• 1:58:51
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• 1:58:55
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• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: What's going on this weekend? Anything big? Celtics Tomorrow night.
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• 1:59:06
  Speaker 4: You can you just have forty seconds?
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 10: I wouldn't want to go in the Celtics.
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