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INTERVIEW: De La Soul On Honoring Dave In Their New Album, Today's Hip Hop Landscape + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Clicks up the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 2: Y'all done morning. Everybody is the j en Vy, Jess, Hilarius,
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Speaker 2: Charlamagne and the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 3: Laurla Ros is here and also Nila is here as
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Speaker 3: we as we are introduced some legends, some icons to
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Speaker 3: this game.
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Speaker 2: Long Island's own Daylight Soul.
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Speaker 1: Welcome brothers.
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Speaker 3: My voice a little shaky, that's what y'll thank you, bro,
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Speaker 3: legendary man.
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Speaker 4: How y'all feeling man, first album in nine years?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're feeling good.
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Speaker 5: Bro.
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Speaker 1: We're feeling really good, man.
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Speaker 5: No questions. Still be part of the fabric?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I always like to be a part of it.
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Speaker 2: You are part of it. Come on, man, we have
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Speaker 2: legendarys like this.
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Speaker 3: I like to start from the beginning for people that
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Speaker 3: don't know and introduce them to So how did Daylight
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Speaker 3: Soul come together?
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Speaker 1: Ah?
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Speaker 5: Man? We met in summer school.
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Speaker 1: Why are you saying that.
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Speaker 5: We was in summer school not doing too well that
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Speaker 5: year before? Right? And uh yeah, for some reason we
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Speaker 5: clicked in class and from there we would pretty much
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Speaker 5: end up at one another's crib after school and started
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Speaker 5: messing with the music. You know, Poss and Dave wasn't
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Speaker 5: really known as MC's in the neighborhood back then when
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Speaker 5: parties was happening. I was djaying around the neighborhood. Paul
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Speaker 5: was djaying around the neighborhood. Yeah, shoot my brother Prince Paul. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: And then things just started to click. We started to
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Speaker 5: realize we got something here and we just kept it going.
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Speaker 5: And when we finally met Paul, things started to really change.
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Speaker 3: At that time in Queens, it was it was hard
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Speaker 3: records at the time. Right, two guys went the other way.
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Speaker 3: So break that down of of why the difference, of
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Speaker 3: why the native tongue kind of stuck out.
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Speaker 6: It was just who we were, man, it's really all
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Speaker 6: to explain. We we we put together records based off
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Speaker 6: what was in our parents' cribs.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like we loved the Koogi.
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Speaker 6: Raps, the all that, we loved all of it, but
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Speaker 6: you know, it just what what what appeal to us.
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Speaker 6: Even Mace could come from a like a more street
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Speaker 6: background from Brooklyn. I came from the Bronx at a
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Speaker 6: really young age, but and moved to Long Island. But
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Speaker 6: we were just using stuff in our Crib.
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Speaker 1: We knew Biz. Biz showed us.
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Speaker 6: That you can make these dope records but have fun
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Speaker 6: and that that kind of just spoke to us. So
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Speaker 6: we just that this is what we did when we
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Speaker 6: was putting together records, and it just like was what
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Speaker 6: we wanted to present.
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Speaker 4: What was the hip hop community in Long Island?
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Speaker 7: Because you know, you got through Rocks and the public
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Speaker 7: Enemy Biz and the Daylight Soul Buster, you know what
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Speaker 7: I mean.
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Speaker 4: But what was the scene?
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Speaker 5: The scene was more backyard parties, vfw's.
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Speaker 1: Backyard, a lot of vfws.
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Speaker 5: And college parties, a lot of college parties, and that
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Speaker 5: was That's pretty much how we rocked. We had a
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Speaker 5: we had a spot called a dugout around our way,
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Speaker 5: and that's where everybody came and rocked. You know, you
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Speaker 5: never knew who was gonna pop in there. And then
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Speaker 5: all the local talent, you know, between DJ's and MC's
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Speaker 5: that was just trying to do that thing.
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Speaker 2: Roller skating to roller skating was bigger.
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Speaker 1: Was a very big thing.
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Speaker 5: Also.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and y'all knew each other, like who all knew
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Speaker 4: each other?
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Speaker 1: What era was that we knew each other? You know,
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Speaker 1: we knew who E. P. M. D.
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Speaker 6: You know, we would see them here and there, Like
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Speaker 6: even Freddie Fox lived out around that way, so we
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Speaker 6: would see him beat your ass. Sure and his brother
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Speaker 6: the Supreme they called themselves a Supreme force. Me and
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Speaker 6: Dave at that time were still in high school working
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Speaker 6: in Burger King. We would see him whipping people all
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Speaker 6: up and down the moon.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 2: You know what I wanted to know.
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Speaker 3: Do you feel like if day La Sol wasn't from
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Speaker 3: Long Island, day So would be a bigger group, because
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Speaker 3: I think Long Island is that one place. I always
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Speaker 3: feel like people just leaves Long Island out for some reason.
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 5: With hip hop, there's generically there's the struggle, and people
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Speaker 5: don't realize this is a struggle out there amongst them
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Speaker 5: grass and trees.
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Speaker 2: Long Island was.
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Speaker 3: People don't see that side of when you get money,
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Speaker 3: you moved to Long Island, you made it, because that
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Speaker 3: was the thing, like when you get money, you moved
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Speaker 3: a Long Island.
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Speaker 2: But Long Island had some dirty dingy yea indeed crazy.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 6: My my parents was from the South. You know, we
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Speaker 6: lived in the Bronx for a minute. I had two
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Speaker 6: older brothers by the time me and my younger brother
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Speaker 6: came around. They was like, yo, we got to get
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Speaker 6: out of here. So they did the same thing. They
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Speaker 6: moved us to Long Island. Respectfully, all the white people
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Speaker 6: ran away and we was there. But Yo, there was
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Speaker 6: some grimy parts of that place, you know. I mean
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Speaker 6: wine dance is like Baby Brooklyn.
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Speaker 1: That's what it was.
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Speaker 5: If you were from the boroughs that moved to Long Island. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: you had some challenges because them dudes was done gonna
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Speaker 5: definitely let you know you ain't who you think you
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Speaker 5: are from. We'll pop you with a shovel out here. Yeah.
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Speaker 7: And it's funny when people say things to me like yo,
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Speaker 7: and when I hear anything, would Daylight be a bigger group?
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Speaker 7: Because I grew up in South Carolina and people was
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Speaker 7: bumping Daylight Soul crazy was who I was from. People
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Speaker 7: did love Daylight Soul.
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Speaker 1: No doubt, you know.
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Speaker 6: I mean like, yeah, we were one of those groups
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Speaker 6: that were not only blessed to get this love that
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Speaker 6: was bubbling in New York, but we can find like yo,
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Speaker 6: in the South. They messed with us. That first song
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Speaker 6: we had called plug Tuning. It was a little slower,
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Speaker 6: so we had Houston really messing with it and then
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Speaker 6: let alone when all of a sudden they was like, yo,
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Speaker 6: y'all can go to London or we can go to Amstam.
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Speaker 6: So we were just kind of like running around the
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Speaker 6: world just off of this first album, and it was
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Speaker 6: it was like really a blessing, you know, what is the.
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Speaker 8: Origin behind and like plug one, plug two and just
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Speaker 8: that concept in general.
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Speaker 6: It was the listeners we had the song plug tuning,
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Speaker 6: and it was just a chance. So it's just like
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Speaker 6: how any rapper could jump into a verse, but like
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Speaker 6: yo yo yo one two and you just start saying
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Speaker 6: what you say.
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Speaker 1: That was just a chance.
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Speaker 6: We'd be like plug one, plug two. I wasn't supposed
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Speaker 6: to be pluged one. I was just the one saying it,
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Speaker 6: and Dave was saying plug two. So when we was
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Speaker 6: walking around in clubs, people were like, yo, you plugged one,
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Speaker 6: you plugged two, and then he just automatically.
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Speaker 1: Became a fall plug three. We didn't even make that
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Speaker 1: of for ourselves.
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Speaker 7: And it's also funny too when they say if you
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Speaker 7: do things, you'll find your tribe. I feel like y'all
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Speaker 7: found y'all tribe. Literally when it came to the Native.
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Speaker 6: Tongue indeed, because when we first came into it, it
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Speaker 6: was like being in a high school. You know, you've
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Speaker 6: already heard nice and smooth records and now they're hanging
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Speaker 6: with you. You already heard Audio two's records, and now
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Speaker 6: you're around them in light and so we all hanging around.
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Speaker 6: But when we met Jungle, it was like, yo, yeah,
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Speaker 6: sit at my table, let's do the beats on the
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Speaker 6: table us. And then they bring around Q Tip and
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Speaker 6: it's the same thing, and then Latifa comes hang out
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Speaker 6: with us. So yeah, it was just like this frequency
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Speaker 6: that we just all felt like, Yo, we should.
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Speaker 1: Really like be around each other and make records.
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Speaker 2: How was recording back then with all those people that
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Speaker 2: you just need? How was those studios?
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Speaker 5: Man? That was crazy? Yeah. I mean you just never
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Speaker 5: know who's gonna pop in the studio that day and
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Speaker 5: make a song, you know. I mean we hung out
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Speaker 5: a lot, so making a song was like second nature
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Speaker 5: because we were just together a lot. And then you know,
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Speaker 5: the Viber just wanting to play records and make records
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Speaker 5: and we were kids loving his thing. You know that's
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Speaker 5: now called hip hop, It wasn't when we were doing it.
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Speaker 5: It wasn't called hip hop yet, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: It's like, Yo, this this rap thing.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: We're trying to do this to figure this out. And
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Speaker 5: when we got the opportunity for somebody to spend their
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Speaker 5: money on your dream, it was like, let's go and
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Speaker 5: we could sample records and yeah, it was like new
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Speaker 5: toys to play with.
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Speaker 2: When y'all sample records back then? Did y'all clear the records?
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Speaker 6: And y'all just well, we came out, we gave it
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Speaker 6: to the record comany to clear and if they chose
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Speaker 6: not to clear, right.
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Speaker 5: You know, we knew we needed to get permission. How
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Speaker 5: you go about getting permission we didn't know that, but
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Speaker 5: we knew it. The record company was supposed to do that.
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Speaker 2: You didn't do it for your records some something and.
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Speaker 7: Not.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I know y'all went.
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Speaker 9: Through everything with the lawsuit, with the clearing and not clearing,
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Speaker 9: and I kind of messed y' all.
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Speaker 3: Up with things.
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Speaker 10: So the digital Yeah, what was that journey like?
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Speaker 9: Because you got all this great feeling, all this great music,
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Speaker 9: and then the business kicks in and it's like, well, wait,
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Speaker 9: like we were kids, figuring this out. But now in
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Speaker 9: the adult business kicks in and it's making it where
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Speaker 9: you guys kind of disappear when the streaming aer.
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Speaker 1: Yeah we missed, we missed a download era. We missed
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Speaker 1: all that. That's crazy download error streaming era at the
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Speaker 1: top of it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: So, I mean, now we were putting out newer records
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Speaker 6: that weren't involved with our catalog that was on say
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Speaker 6: Tommy By the first six records. But we had good
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Speaker 6: people who was in control of this catalog at Warner Brothers,
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Speaker 6: you know, and they're trying to help us to get
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Speaker 6: it right and get these samples clear.
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Speaker 1: But you know how we're record companies.
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Speaker 6: Then a new regime comes in and everyone leaves and
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Speaker 6: now you got to start over again. And that's where
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Speaker 6: it really became an ordeal with it just took too long.
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Speaker 6: Leo Cohen was up there and he was our former manager,
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Speaker 6: help us out, but then he left and yeah, so.
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Speaker 5: And then Tom Sulverman tried to come back.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he got the catalog.
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Speaker 5: And that's when things started between us and him because
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Speaker 5: he offered a deal that wasn't really cool.
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Speaker 7: How does the label end up with a ten ninety split.
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Speaker 7: How did the label get ninety because I'm thinking like
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Speaker 7: back then, y'all didn't There was no screaming, so it's
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Speaker 7: not like y'all signed something like that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: Man, Usually us the artist, just like sometimes us the
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Speaker 6: people whatever were being introduced to, it's already been figured out.
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Speaker 1: They give it to you.
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Speaker 6: And I think it's the same way. It's like they
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Speaker 6: already know where they're going. They already know that this
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Speaker 6: streaming thing is coming before we even know it's coming.
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Speaker 6: And I just think it has a lot to do.
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Speaker 5: Back then, he was getting paid on like twelve or
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Speaker 5: maybe eighteen songs, you know, and it would be like
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Speaker 5: a twelve percent to eighteen percent royalty anyway, and then
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Speaker 5: that was kind of standard, you know. But what we
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Speaker 5: didn't know is those admin fees. It's what can make
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Speaker 5: it ten percent when you're paying that admin feel on
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Speaker 5: the back?
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Speaker 4: What administration?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the administration fee?
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Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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Speaker 3: How does it feel when you see the younger generation
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Speaker 3: finding new daylight soul? So Nihla who was a young
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Speaker 3: og over here, we did this. We do this segment
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Speaker 3: called Past the Auks, and I think that first maybe
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Speaker 3: the first the second one she came in here and
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Speaker 3: she was like, I got a dayl Oat Soul record
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Speaker 3: were like day Soul new and she played a classic
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Speaker 3: but it just had joined the streaming it and she's
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Speaker 3: a native tongue.
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Speaker 4: Fits you played the Cabin in the Sky today.
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Speaker 2: So how does it feel when the young generation hears that,
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Speaker 2: because it's almost like a recreation.
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Speaker 1: It's beautiful, man, it's amazing.
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Speaker 6: Like even right before the catalog came out, Marvel had
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Speaker 6: came to us and like, Yo, we want to put
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Speaker 6: one of your older songs in the Spider Man movie.
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Speaker 1: Was like, Yo, that'd be amazing.
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Speaker 6: So it was a big thing where at the end
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Speaker 6: of the movie when the three Spider Man's come together,
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Speaker 6: they play threes, the magic number, and everyone pulls out
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Speaker 6: their phone, your young kids trying to exam it, and
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Speaker 6: they still couldn't find it because it wasn't up yet.
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Speaker 6: So it's just amazing, Like how even all of us
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Speaker 6: living in our homes and listening to like a gladys
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Speaker 6: Night record and you and your parents would be like,
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Speaker 6: what do you know about this? But you was around them,
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Speaker 6: You're hearing it and it speaks to you, and it's
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Speaker 6: just great to see something that we did in eighty
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Speaker 6: nine is speaking to someone right now the words for it.
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Speaker 7: If days started in twenty twenty five, what would native
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Speaker 7: tongues look like today?
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Speaker 4: Like who are the artists?
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Speaker 1: You call im? What we call family?
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Speaker 6: I mean I would immediately think, like you know, odd future,
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Speaker 6: them dudes Tyler to created those earl slasher and its
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Speaker 6: impact like those dudes of us, Like we would be
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Speaker 6: hanging around, running around, bugging out everything. Kendrick to Kendrick, indeed, indeed, indeed.
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Speaker 11: Well you see definitely yeh everyday man, I mean half
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Speaker 11: of the rappers that are out right now.
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Speaker 8: But I am curious about just like aesthetically the world
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Speaker 8: that you guys built, the bright colors, the flowers who
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Speaker 8: inspired that it.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, we were just doing music.
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Speaker 6: When it came time to promote the music, the record
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Speaker 6: label was like, look, man, everything y'all making, it's not
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Speaker 6: like what anyone else is doing. And it reminds us
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Speaker 6: of this era like Woodstock and Hippie. Would y'all be
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Speaker 6: down at you try these covers?
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Speaker 1: Mace wasn't really.
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Speaker 5: With it it.
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Speaker 6: Dylan appreciated, yeah, and so when we when you, as
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Speaker 6: he said, we appreciate the fact that when you put
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Speaker 6: this cover next to like n w A's cover or
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Speaker 6: Rock Him's cover, it stood out and it made someone
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Speaker 6: pick it up, and we started learning how people would
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Speaker 6: tell us like yo, like it was because of you.
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Speaker 1: I learned about Rock Him because I saw this cover.
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Speaker 1: It seemed like it was safe, and we saw listening
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Speaker 1: to it. But we got into hip hop and realized
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Speaker 1: all hip hop is what it is. Like, what's the
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Speaker 1: difference between hip hop and a gangster movie? It's like
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Speaker 1: it ain't really real.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying so crazy, just because I'm
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Speaker 3: thinking back of the influence that you guys had. I
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Speaker 3: remember the back then, we didn't care about gold jewelry.
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Speaker 3: I wanted my African pendit and we wanted it from
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Speaker 3: Jamaica Avenue and had to look a certain way.
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Speaker 2: It had to be because the war.
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Speaker 7: You think about it, what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Confusing. You see some of my old pictures.
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Speaker 3: I didn't have cross clothes with the African like crazy,
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Speaker 3: It was crazy.
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Speaker 7: You think the industry ever fully understood how radical and
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Speaker 7: rebellious what y'all was doing actually was when first introduced.
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Speaker 1: So well, I don't know, I don't know if we
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Speaker 1: really understood it. I mean, honest, we were just because
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Speaker 1: just to even go back to what you were saying,
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Speaker 1: you don't get it, do not do not miss the
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Speaker 1: fact that we want to go changes. We want to
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Speaker 1: be like rock, We want to be like Eric B.
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Speaker 1: That's you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 6: You know, we had the busy Bee compartment all with
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Speaker 6: me and Dave had our our chain on leve, you.
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Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. But we we still just had
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Speaker 1: this way about us.
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Speaker 6: They're no different than how I would go see his
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Speaker 6: family in Brooklyn and like, yo, you could have someone
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Speaker 6: who stood out or like old Dirty Back that's his brother,
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Speaker 6: who was like a punk rocker from Brooklyn. Like you
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Speaker 6: just had these people who was just like different but
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Speaker 6: still from a circumstance of images that you still love.
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Speaker 6: I love Dapper dand I would have loved to have
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Speaker 6: a Dapper dance suit. I couldn't forward that, you know
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Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So hey, let me just stick to
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Speaker 6: this this pendent because it's easy to rock than a
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Speaker 6: gold chain.
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Speaker 2: You know how close were y'all to tribe?
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Speaker 3: Because I feel like Tribe had so much influence, got
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Speaker 3: so much from you guys, how close were.
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Speaker 6: Y'all to the those was our brother like you know,
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Speaker 6: and just for me, like Africa and Q Tip, like
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Speaker 6: we were like unseparable. At one point we was like
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Speaker 6: the three Stoochs running around like.
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Speaker 1: Love.
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Speaker 6: Those those brothers. We got on each other's nerves as
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Speaker 6: brothers should do. We loved each other and we love
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Speaker 6: each other to this day. Yeah you know, So I
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Speaker 6: mean hanging out with them, hanging out at Q Tip's house,
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Speaker 6: his mother's making us food, his oldest sister, his friends
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Speaker 6: with Sweet Tea, who's down with herbie love Bug, And
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Speaker 6: I'm like, yo, sweet Tea, and I'm in love with
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Speaker 6: sweet Tea and she's at his house. Like we always
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Speaker 6: hung out together and we just created music. And I
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Speaker 6: learned from them. They learned from us. Like Tip is
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Speaker 6: younger than us, but I called him like my little
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Speaker 6: big brother because he's so wise beyond his years.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 4: You know, we had knife Window up here. Nine Winder
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Speaker 4: was talking about.
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Speaker 1: I saw the fronting on Daylight. You're saying how much
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Speaker 1: he loved I saw that, and.
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Speaker 4: So I said that.
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Speaker 1: I love the clip.
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Speaker 4: I want to hear the clip. Let me hear the clip.
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Speaker 4: Who break down q tip family.
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Speaker 12: Oh Man, so the q tip family tree. Q Tip
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Speaker 12: was one of the first ones to not sample funk
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Speaker 12: and soul only, right. Q Tip was one of the
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Speaker 12: ones like, oh, I'm a sample artist by name of
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Speaker 12: Kyle Jader and my man sample artist by the name
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Speaker 12: of Les McCann and Freddie Hubber because q Tip grew
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Speaker 12: up in the neighborhood of jazz musicians, got jazz exactly
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Speaker 12: and so that euphoric feel. Like I always say, Benita
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Speaker 12: apple Bum is like the tree of life for everything
16:58
Speaker 12: after it. So if Benita apple Bum is not made,
17:01
Speaker 12: we're not getting well first not first of all, with
17:05
Speaker 12: our tribe. We're not getting out casts back right, they
17:09
Speaker 12: said it. They said it all the you know, all
17:10
Speaker 12: the time. We're not getting out casts. We're not getting
17:13
Speaker 12: the roots. We're not getting Badu, we're not getting jail.
17:16
Speaker 12: We're not getting a little Brother. We're not getting D'Angelo.
17:19
Speaker 12: We're not getting this thing called neo. So we're not
17:22
Speaker 12: getting we're not getting Kanye West. We're not getting anything
17:25
Speaker 12: that feels you for it and feels good. We're not
17:27
Speaker 12: getting that. Because chord changes wasn't in hip hop in
17:31
Speaker 12: eighty nine, eighty eight we had we used to start
17:34
Speaker 12: about Public Enemy.
17:35
Speaker 1: It was just dad. You know what I'm saying, what
17:38
Speaker 1: not living base is.
17:40
Speaker 12: But q Tip when he sampled those chord changes and
17:44
Speaker 12: all of that, that's what That's what made everybody turn
17:46
Speaker 12: the corner. And we're still we owe a lot to
17:49
Speaker 12: that dude for making that turn and making the music
17:51
Speaker 12: that he did. We're making the music that Tribe did.
17:53
Speaker 4: Why so why I agree with you? But damn, where
17:56
Speaker 4: did Daylight come into play?
17:58
Speaker 1: So Daylight?
17:59
Speaker 12: So Daylight was of course Daylight was before that, and
18:02
Speaker 12: Jungle Brothers before that. You know that, you know Native
18:04
Speaker 12: Tongue's movie. Also Queen Latifa was in that box. You
18:07
Speaker 12: know what I mean, Try was more. It was a
18:12
Speaker 12: different thing from Daylight. Daylight was way left the center, right,
18:16
Speaker 12: you know, I think.
18:18
Speaker 3: And it's gonna sound crazy because the Daylight was from
18:19
Speaker 3: Long Island and more screen. Tribe was more street because
18:24
Speaker 3: remember Tribe is really dire from farmers from Queen. Now
18:27
Speaker 3: you go up a little bit, that's ll Qj's area,
18:30
Speaker 3: left a little bit, that's you know, fifty them.
18:32
Speaker 2: So they were more streak than Daylight I was.
18:35
Speaker 12: And you noticed it because when daylight daylight, and tribes
18:39
Speaker 12: kind of dressed the same on their first on three
18:41
Speaker 12: feet and people distinct if they trust the same. By
18:43
Speaker 12: the time Tribe did low end theories, baseball jerseys and
18:46
Speaker 12: hats bro like, they totally just changed everything.
18:49
Speaker 4: But I don't feel like you get any of that
18:50
Speaker 4: without three feet high and rising.
18:52
Speaker 1: No you don't.
18:53
Speaker 6: I mean, but I would say, like we were definitely
18:58
Speaker 6: like mining and and we were like in kinship together
19:00
Speaker 6: when it came to creativity, and like you have daylight
19:04
Speaker 6: being daylight and you can have jive records, like yo, these.
19:07
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy dudes they won with this.
19:09
Speaker 6: They won with daylight, like let's let me find my daylight,
19:12
Speaker 6: and like Tribe was theirs. But we even knew that
19:16
Speaker 6: tribing Dayla. Tribe got this thing that like Tip was
19:19
Speaker 6: coming up with stuff like I was like, Yo, how
19:21
Speaker 6: is he doing this? How is he coming up with
19:23
Speaker 6: on this? Yeah, it was crazy.
19:26
Speaker 5: It was way deeper than where we were going. Yeah,
19:28
Speaker 5: because we were actually messing with a whole lot more
19:31
Speaker 5: pop culture of a different period. You know.
19:34
Speaker 6: We would sample peg you know from Stilly Dayan and
19:37
Speaker 6: make a record like Tip was just going elsewhere with it.
19:39
Speaker 1: So I get it, man.
19:41
Speaker 6: I understand where certain things and frequencies that Tip or
19:44
Speaker 6: tribe was on that the brothers related to, but a
19:48
Speaker 6: lot of the brothers related to us as well. And
19:50
Speaker 6: even with Daylight So It's dead, our second album, we
19:52
Speaker 6: left all that that psychedelic stuff to the side as well.
19:56
Speaker 6: It just was so iconic people didn't want to let
19:58
Speaker 6: it go. I mean, our second it was called Daylight,
20:00
Speaker 6: So it's dead because we were saying we was getting
20:03
Speaker 6: off killing off the image.
20:06
Speaker 5: The image that was drowning the music. The daisy always
20:10
Speaker 5: meant it was an acronym, it meant the sound, y'all
20:13
Speaker 5: the as so it just, you know, the images just
20:19
Speaker 5: took it elsewhere, obviously for the record company to try
20:23
Speaker 5: to sell some records, and I cantfront on the art
20:27
Speaker 5: department listening to the music and making this cover because
20:32
Speaker 5: this is their interpretation, you know what I mean. So
20:36
Speaker 5: over time I began to appreciate what the effect it
20:41
Speaker 5: had on everyone, you know what I mean.
20:43
Speaker 4: I still don't think you get you don't get tried
20:45
Speaker 4: without Daylight.
20:45
Speaker 7: So of course I understand the cut Tip family tree thing,
20:48
Speaker 7: but Daylight to me sparked.
20:50
Speaker 5: All of that well, you know, to speak to t
20:54
Speaker 5: in Trib's defense, they had a lot of success. So
20:58
Speaker 5: when you come to when we talk an industry standards,
21:01
Speaker 5: they sold a lot of records. Man, you know, they
21:03
Speaker 5: had some joints. Man. You know, I could say maybe
21:06
Speaker 5: we had good albums, but they had good albums and joints. Yeah,
21:13
Speaker 5: it was crazy.
21:14
Speaker 3: I still think it's part of the Long Island thing
21:17
Speaker 3: where people slept on a lot of Long Island artists,
21:19
Speaker 3: whether it was rock Kim, I think Rock Kim is
21:22
Speaker 3: a huge artist. I think Rock Kim would have been
21:24
Speaker 3: bigger if he was from the Boroughs. I think the
21:25
Speaker 3: same thing with E. P.
21:26
Speaker 8: M D.
21:27
Speaker 2: I think the same thing.
21:28
Speaker 3: Well, Keith Murray was there, but I just think people
21:30
Speaker 3: sleep on Long Island so much mentioned as the god
21:34
Speaker 3: like number one on some people on some people's list,
21:37
Speaker 3: but I think it would be even bigger if he
21:39
Speaker 3: was from one of the barrels.
21:40
Speaker 2: I just think people sleep on Long Island. That's what
21:42
Speaker 2: I did.
21:45
Speaker 10: Do I feel like rock was always mentioned as one
21:47
Speaker 10: of the guys.
21:50
Speaker 9: Generationally, Yes, I do not feel like I hear people
21:53
Speaker 9: talking about it more now.
21:58
Speaker 1: He was the one for even Kendrick to say, like
22:00
Speaker 1: he those some music.
22:02
Speaker 9: When I say that, When I say that, I guess
22:04
Speaker 9: I mean like transcending outside like you said, like an
22:06
Speaker 9: industry success. Like I feel like sometimes when we have
22:09
Speaker 9: these conversations, it's like two different groups of people you
22:11
Speaker 9: talking about. You got people that are heavily intertwined in
22:13
Speaker 9: music and hip hop and culture, and then you have
22:15
Speaker 9: everybody else that just like sees it from a celebrity aspect.
22:19
Speaker 9: I feel like the world now is giving rock.
22:24
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:25
Speaker 9: Remember I wasn't heard painting pol But you're different, You're
22:27
Speaker 9: you're you sit here at the breakfast club, but like
22:29
Speaker 9: a regular person who's just reading like a complex dot com,
22:33
Speaker 9: a person who's on TikTok, a younger kid.
22:35
Speaker 10: Now they're talking about the.
22:37
Speaker 7: Way people rap, Like I remember it was because my
22:40
Speaker 7: sisters was listening to like Salt and Pepple and you
22:42
Speaker 7: know they was a kid in playing But you heard.
22:44
Speaker 1: Ro Like what is that? Yeah?
22:47
Speaker 8: I have two questions. I just want to get it
22:48
Speaker 8: off my brain before I forget.
22:50
Speaker 12: Well.
22:50
Speaker 8: One's kind of like a comment, but have you ever
22:52
Speaker 8: seen that clip of Alias and how she has a
22:54
Speaker 8: crush on you?
22:55
Speaker 1: Yes, my wife's seen it too.
22:59
Speaker 10: She it is iconic though you got to play that every.
23:05
Speaker 1: Night, you know what?
23:13
Speaker 6: You know what what was crazy is that we we've
23:16
Speaker 6: met her throughout the years and she was such a lovely,
23:19
Speaker 6: beautiful soul and I'm one of the most amazing memories
23:23
Speaker 6: of her is uh, we did like a Christmas party.
23:26
Speaker 1: I want to say.
23:26
Speaker 6: It was like Bet and her and Missy was at
23:30
Speaker 6: the front of the stage while we're performing, They're trying
23:32
Speaker 6: to pull and Untie a sneak beuse.
23:33
Speaker 1: We're like, yo, what are you doing? Like she was
23:35
Speaker 1: such a fun, fun, lovely queen. So I mean, like,
23:39
Speaker 1: it's just amazing to hear that.
23:43
Speaker 8: And my other question was, could you guys talk about
23:45
Speaker 8: tribe And I know you guys did collaborate with Q
23:48
Speaker 8: Tip on this. Did you guys produce kind of like
23:50
Speaker 8: old times? Like was it like let's recreate the feeling
23:54
Speaker 8: that we had back then.
23:55
Speaker 1: Or no, we it's a feeling we are. We just
23:57
Speaker 1: keep with each other. It's just like that.
23:59
Speaker 6: If you you know, if Jay comes to do someone
24:01
Speaker 6: in Memphis, it's just a synergy they got that You're
24:03
Speaker 6: gonna be like, I hear it there and that's what
24:06
Speaker 6: we are, Like me and him and Q Tip is
24:08
Speaker 6: in a chat every other day being silly and bugging
24:12
Speaker 6: out and sending records and like, nah, I got this
24:15
Speaker 6: record for you.
24:16
Speaker 1: No, no Tip, you gotta do this. So we always together.
24:19
Speaker 6: Nix was killing it at that point. He wanted to
24:21
Speaker 6: come to the studio and hear what we was doing.
24:23
Speaker 6: He wasn't supposed to be on the record. He just
24:25
Speaker 6: came through just to listen and he got caught up
24:28
Speaker 6: on his one song I played and he's rhyming. I'm
24:30
Speaker 6: like yo, and he was like, y'all, I want to
24:31
Speaker 6: get on this, and that's how this happened.
24:34
Speaker 10: Just go ahead in this group chat that you guys have.
24:37
Speaker 8: Are you guys talking about like the headlines that are
24:41
Speaker 8: coming out, like hip hop is dead, rap hasn't been
24:43
Speaker 8: on Billboard, X, Y and Z Like, nah.
24:46
Speaker 1: It's just music. We just send music.
24:49
Speaker 6: Stupid, Yeah, because we wanted to know.
24:54
Speaker 9: Were talking about that before y'all came in, about how
24:56
Speaker 9: all those conversations be happening, But like there's so much
24:59
Speaker 9: actually happening for real, but details are just like noise.
25:02
Speaker 5: Yo.
25:03
Speaker 1: We love music.
25:04
Speaker 6: We have the right as all of us to have
25:07
Speaker 6: our opinion about it.
25:09
Speaker 1: And I mean all of you. Man, y'all are staples,
25:11
Speaker 1: and you have the right to be like, yo, I
25:13
Speaker 1: think this is not it and whatever. But we we we.
25:16
Speaker 6: Had the benefit of coming out and having our gods
25:20
Speaker 6: say to us like, look, Daylight, your show is whack.
25:23
Speaker 1: You need to do this, you need to do that.
25:25
Speaker 1: And they did it out of love.
25:27
Speaker 5: You know.
25:27
Speaker 6: We didn't have these platforms where they got to go
25:29
Speaker 6: to like write on magazine and something and be like.
25:31
Speaker 1: You know that day La soul. They got a horrible show.
25:34
Speaker 1: So that's what I don't like.
25:35
Speaker 6: I don't like coming up here and talking bad about
25:37
Speaker 6: someone when I can turn around and talk to them
25:40
Speaker 6: and out of love show them love and be like, yo, man,
25:43
Speaker 6: I love what you're doing, but maybe you should try
25:45
Speaker 6: to do this or do that.
25:46
Speaker 1: And I think that's more what we need to be.
25:48
Speaker 5: Criticism is constructive and not hurting nobody.
25:53
Speaker 6: We all we all have feelings, we have egos and
25:57
Speaker 6: you know, so I mean, like be more constructive.
26:00
Speaker 7: As they said, was there ever a time where y'all
26:03
Speaker 7: felt pressure to modernize your sound or y'all just operate
26:05
Speaker 7: outside of that? Nah?
26:06
Speaker 6: We always outside it. I mean, think about it. Seanamagne
26:09
Speaker 6: we had us. You know, you had tried with Midnight Marauders,
26:14
Speaker 6: you had Wu Tang with thirty six Chambers, and we
26:16
Speaker 6: come with this calm record called Balloon Mind State. We
26:21
Speaker 6: we always was just riding our own path, like we
26:23
Speaker 6: loved all that we could do, all that we could
26:25
Speaker 6: get up next to the illis do it in rhyme
26:27
Speaker 6: the way we needed to rhyme. But that was the
26:30
Speaker 6: journey at that point, you know what I'm saying. And
26:32
Speaker 6: we unapology, you know, like we didn't apologize for any
26:36
Speaker 6: of it.
26:36
Speaker 5: We just did what we did, create an least successful album. Yeah,
26:40
Speaker 5: you know, and fast forward to today, people go, yo,
26:45
Speaker 5: Ballue Mindsteed, I get it now. Yeah, it was something
26:48
Speaker 5: you had to grow into probably, you know. No. So
26:52
Speaker 5: I mean, music just has a weird place where people
26:56
Speaker 5: you may not get it now, but you'll get it later. Yeah.
26:59
Speaker 5: You know.
27:00
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the iconic song Buddy. Right
27:02
Speaker 3: when it first came out, everybody thought it was a
27:04
Speaker 3: sexual song when it first came out, right, So so
27:08
Speaker 3: explain Buddy and how it came about because it was
27:10
Speaker 3: band from a lot of places. Places didn't want.
27:11
Speaker 1: To play it.
27:12
Speaker 2: They talk this way about it so well where the
27:14
Speaker 2: concept came from.
27:15
Speaker 6: Jungle Brothers first had a song called Jimbrowski you know when,
27:19
Speaker 6: and that was talking about you.
27:20
Speaker 1: Know, the male's anatomy. And then we.
27:23
Speaker 6: Came with a song called Jennifer and I was just
27:26
Speaker 6: talking about a girl, and so we just were saying, like, yo,
27:29
Speaker 6: if we.
27:30
Speaker 5: Have Jimmy j they become buddies.
27:34
Speaker 1: So, I mean that's really what it was in the
27:36
Speaker 1: most playful sense, gotcha. You know. So definitely they also.
27:40
Speaker 3: Want to know, well, all these collabs that Nike does, right,
27:44
Speaker 3: because you see the Daylight Soul Dunks and the Daylight
27:46
Speaker 3: Soul Kicks, do y'all get paid for that?
27:47
Speaker 2: Do they get permission before they do it?
27:48
Speaker 1: Or do they No, they definitely got permission the first run.
27:53
Speaker 5: We didn't get paid, no.
27:54
Speaker 6: Because that's how the first run with SB obviously that's
27:59
Speaker 6: how it was. It was like a few a few
28:01
Speaker 6: amount be put out twenty grands, yeah, and then they'll
28:04
Speaker 6: just flood you with like a locker room of sneakers
28:08
Speaker 6: here take that. But I mean the second time around,
28:10
Speaker 6: when they released it, they gave us some money for it.
28:12
Speaker 5: But you know, they say, you on the idea of
28:14
Speaker 5: the limited edition and all of that, and.
28:16
Speaker 2: It keeps the name alive when I watched when.
28:19
Speaker 5: I used, and it's cool to do the first time around.
28:24
Speaker 5: And when we're talking about repeating it, then we need.
28:27
Speaker 4: To get some break, you know.
28:29
Speaker 7: You know Daylight albums, man, they always feel like worlds
28:33
Speaker 7: when you're creating. Now, when you created Cabins in the Sky,
28:35
Speaker 7: what world are you building it?
28:37
Speaker 4: What's the emotion that was driving?
28:39
Speaker 6: The main thing is for our partner who's no longer here, Dave.
28:42
Speaker 6: It was like, yeah, Cabin in the Sky was for him,
28:46
Speaker 6: you know. I mean it's still the normal muscle memory
28:50
Speaker 6: of trying to make a beautiful, great album that has
28:54
Speaker 6: good lyrics, could sound good themes as Daylight has always done,
28:58
Speaker 6: but it was him. And I jokingly say this, like
29:01
Speaker 6: you know, and I hope I'm not you know, saying
29:04
Speaker 6: stuff that people don't know. But it's this old movie
29:07
Speaker 6: Outsiders Matt Dillon is the scene where like he's like
29:11
Speaker 6: they about to have this big fight with that gang,
29:13
Speaker 6: the Socials, and they'd be like, yo, we gotta do
29:15
Speaker 6: this for Johnny.
29:16
Speaker 1: Like that's how I feel like, we got to do
29:17
Speaker 1: this for Dave.
29:18
Speaker 6: Like it was really big that we represent him and
29:22
Speaker 6: show to show his energy on this entire album. The
29:26
Speaker 6: project is for him, you know, and for us, and
29:29
Speaker 6: it's therapeutic for us to do for me.
29:31
Speaker 1: You know.
29:31
Speaker 6: Like the album is basically like we're doing this album
29:35
Speaker 6: with him rhyming from heaven, you know what I'm saying, Like,
29:37
Speaker 6: that's what this is.
29:38
Speaker 1: Cabin in the Sky.
29:39
Speaker 9: Has there been moments, you say, with therapeutic, has there
29:41
Speaker 9: been moments where you guys had to kind of like
29:42
Speaker 9: step away and just kind of deal with whatever feelings
29:45
Speaker 9: were brought back up by getting.
29:47
Speaker 5: Back in this I stepped right into it. You never
29:50
Speaker 5: know when grief is gonna hit you. If I got
29:53
Speaker 5: to cry in the moment, I crying the moment.
29:55
Speaker 1: Yeah.
29:57
Speaker 5: One of the biggest things is just now just handling
30:01
Speaker 5: the responsibility of carrying my man's legacy. You know, we
30:06
Speaker 5: got the blessing from his family, all the friends we
30:10
Speaker 5: grew up with, you know what I mean. So at
30:12
Speaker 5: this point, yeah, it's more of a responsibility to keep going,
30:17
Speaker 5: and we had plans, so it's just carrying out the plan.
30:23
Speaker 7: Really, how do you how do you honor Dave spirit
30:25
Speaker 7: creatively without trying to imitate or recreate what he did.
30:29
Speaker 1: Well, nothing that we used of him.
30:32
Speaker 6: Was like like manipulating in a sense, Like whatever song
30:36
Speaker 6: you hear Dave on that, that was a song that
30:38
Speaker 6: he was on. We didn't grab his vocal and put
30:41
Speaker 6: it on something that he wasn't his energy and what he.
30:44
Speaker 1: Felt to write to, because that's how Dave was.
30:46
Speaker 6: He he wrote in a moment like and if he
30:48
Speaker 6: didn't like it, it was gone.
30:49
Speaker 1: Like he didn't he didn't want to co sign it.
30:51
Speaker 6: So it's music that he was actually on, and the
30:54
Speaker 6: music on this album that he actually produced, so like
30:58
Speaker 6: his intent, his energy is without the album and it's
31:01
Speaker 6: organically him and it's authentically him.
31:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know when you hear the album the sequence,
31:08
Speaker 5: it sounds like he's working on the record from heaven. Yeah,
31:11
Speaker 5: it really sounds like that.
31:13
Speaker 7: When you step on stage now that is performing, you know,
31:16
Speaker 7: the oldie catalog feel different emotionally.
31:18
Speaker 1: It can. I mean it took a minute to get
31:20
Speaker 1: used to.
31:21
Speaker 6: Maybe those are moments where you know, I say something
31:24
Speaker 6: Dave was supposed to come in and then I would
31:27
Speaker 6: be ready to jump in ad lib mode and then
31:30
Speaker 6: I'm saying something all of a sudden, I'm waiting for him,
31:32
Speaker 6: jumping like, oh what am I doing? Like I gotta
31:35
Speaker 6: jump in because I gotta say to rhym. So it
31:36
Speaker 6: took us a moment to get that, but we got
31:39
Speaker 6: a downpack because we stay moving, we stay always doing shows.
31:43
Speaker 6: So yeah, it took a moment for us to get it,
31:45
Speaker 6: but we already did with it.
31:47
Speaker 1: Yeah.
31:48
Speaker 7: What's something about Dave as a man not just an
31:51
Speaker 7: artist that you want fans to remember forever?
31:56
Speaker 5: Man?
31:57
Speaker 1: Wow? A man?
32:00
Speaker 5: Hey man? He lived the full life. Man. If any
32:04
Speaker 5: body did it their way, he did definitely unapologetically his way.
32:11
Speaker 5: You know, when I sit down with the Homi Zoom
32:15
Speaker 5: and we talk about it, like the ones that aren't
32:18
Speaker 5: a part of this music thing we grew up with,
32:21
Speaker 5: and they're like, yo, man, just know that, yo man.
32:25
Speaker 5: He did everything the way he wanted to do it,
32:28
Speaker 5: you know. So don't don't don't don't fret. They've lived
32:33
Speaker 5: a full life.
32:34
Speaker 1: A full life.
32:35
Speaker 6: Dave Chapelle kicked that to us as well, Like he
32:37
Speaker 6: was like, yo, man, Dave lived a life that was
32:39
Speaker 6: so dense because he lived like a damn like three
32:42
Speaker 6: four lifetimes. What he got to see, who he got
32:45
Speaker 6: to influence and help and.
32:47
Speaker 1: It's the truth.
32:48
Speaker 6: I mean, like he had a life that for him
32:50
Speaker 6: to not we all have I would feel I know
32:53
Speaker 6: I do. I have people that is no longer here,
32:56
Speaker 6: and you kind of feel sad that they didn't get
32:58
Speaker 6: to do certain things that they wanted to want to
33:00
Speaker 6: to do, or they didn't get to make the mark
33:02
Speaker 6: they wanted to make or change their ways. And Dave
33:05
Speaker 6: lived an amazing life and did so much and involved
33:08
Speaker 6: as a man, as a fall, he did so much.
33:11
Speaker 2: Played in the league, right, did some play football in
33:13
Speaker 2: the league?
33:14
Speaker 5: I thought, yeah, But Dave had the bird's eye view, Yeah,
33:20
Speaker 5: the whole thing, you know, where I can be on
33:23
Speaker 5: the ground and in the street with it on the
33:27
Speaker 5: where he got with it. And but Dave is up here,
33:31
Speaker 5: you know, always kind of looking at things from a
33:34
Speaker 5: real quirky perspective. He brought the real different edge of
33:40
Speaker 5: who we are, like that real quirky edge.
33:43
Speaker 4: You mentioned Dave Chapelle.
33:44
Speaker 7: What was the connection between Chappelle and day Lock And
33:46
Speaker 7: I know y'all did the show back in the day,
33:48
Speaker 7: But the one time I think I met Dave was
33:51
Speaker 7: at a Dave Chappelle show, But it was in South Carolina.
33:54
Speaker 1: Ye maybe three years ago.
33:59
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, families from Florence. Okay, yeah, I got family.
34:03
Speaker 1: Yeah.
34:04
Speaker 6: Now, we've known Dave Chappelle for for the longest time.
34:07
Speaker 6: We did some show in Ohio a long time ago,
34:12
Speaker 6: some college joint we did, and he was there. I
34:14
Speaker 6: think his pops was a teacher there, and so he
34:17
Speaker 6: was at the show and we became this cool ever
34:20
Speaker 6: since this before Dave even really blew up. So we
34:23
Speaker 6: was just always around Dave Chappelle. And so when he
34:26
Speaker 6: got to where he was and wanted us on the
34:28
Speaker 6: show and anything he needed is for we was there
34:30
Speaker 6: for it.
34:30
Speaker 7: You know, when you look at the landscape of hip
34:33
Speaker 7: hop today, what piece of the original Daylight philosophy do
34:37
Speaker 7: you feel the coaching needs the.
34:38
Speaker 1: Most right now?
34:40
Speaker 6: I mean balance, just for me, and I don't know
34:44
Speaker 6: if I I don't know how I can really say that.
34:46
Speaker 5: I feel like the balance is there. It's the platforms
34:49
Speaker 5: that need to present the balance. But yeah, well, for
34:55
Speaker 5: some time, you know, it starts to look like the
34:59
Speaker 5: industry is only supporting one side of hip hop, and
35:03
Speaker 5: it tends to come off to be a little genocidal,
35:08
Speaker 5: you know, because we got way more variety in our culture.
35:13
Speaker 5: You know here it is everybody's art is real, everybody's
35:18
Speaker 5: story is real, but the industry can misconstrue the story
35:22
Speaker 5: and tell a really glorify a story that people aren't
35:26
Speaker 5: really glorifying. You know, they're just telling their story. Some
35:31
Speaker 5: of it's from a fun perspective, but some of it's
35:33
Speaker 5: from a very real perspective, letting you know, like, don't
35:36
Speaker 5: do this. But there's a perception in marketing that don't
35:40
Speaker 5: really lend to that. There's always just no real variety period.
35:46
Speaker 5: You got one flavor all the time.
35:49
Speaker 6: But you know, I pushed back on that a little
35:52
Speaker 6: bit because I just feel like there's so My thing
35:56
Speaker 6: is that there's just too much music what with us,
36:01
Speaker 6: and we come from an era where you know, you
36:03
Speaker 6: tried it in your crib, if people thought you was dope,
36:06
Speaker 6: You worked, you maybe scrambled on the street, you made
36:08
Speaker 6: your money, you went to the studio.
36:10
Speaker 1: You can make music from your laptop. Zoom is up.
36:13
Speaker 6: And I just think that so much music, and it's
36:16
Speaker 6: good music out but there's so many places to get
36:20
Speaker 6: it from that it's understandable that this one place only
36:23
Speaker 6: does it this way.
36:24
Speaker 1: But if you go to maybe SoundCloud. They do it
36:26
Speaker 1: this way, but then if.
36:27
Speaker 6: You go with the listener has to almost transition into
36:31
Speaker 6: a person that can listen to music in different places.
36:35
Speaker 1: And if they don't, they live in their own echo chamber,
36:37
Speaker 1: you know.
36:38
Speaker 8: But the echo chamber is just what's being programmed. Which
36:41
Speaker 8: is the popular thing that you're saying, which could be yeah, yeah,
36:46
Speaker 8: but is there anything that you guys experience firsthand that
36:49
Speaker 8: you feel like the new generation of MC's or just
36:53
Speaker 8: like hip hop fans in general should study.
36:57
Speaker 1: Yo, you're going to learn it.
36:58
Speaker 6: When you learn it, you can make anyone learn anything
37:01
Speaker 6: they didn't want to learn. And that's why to say
37:03
Speaker 6: that when when knowledge or whatever comes towards you, if
37:06
Speaker 6: it's given to you in a humble way, you're listen.
37:09
Speaker 6: When someone's trying to force something down your throat, you're
37:11
Speaker 6: not going to eat it. So I mean, that's how
37:14
Speaker 6: I always try to approach people. And I think young dudes, I.
37:18
Speaker 4: Didn't want to at that was that was agreed. I'm
37:35
Speaker 4: I didn't want to interrupt. I did not want to
37:38
Speaker 4: interrupt the profile thought. But that was just very aggreevable.
37:41
Speaker 1: It was my policies, gentlemen. No, no, no, I know
37:46
Speaker 1: the jokes. I watched this every day.
37:48
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm sorry, but back to your point if you
37:49
Speaker 3: can get back to it when.
37:54
Speaker 1: I'm done on you.
37:57
Speaker 4: But you know, somebody in the chat had a point.
38:00
Speaker 7: They said that they feel like it's too much noise,
38:03
Speaker 7: not enough true art.
38:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is true because as a DJ, we always
38:10
Speaker 5: want music. It's just what the Internet has become. We
38:14
Speaker 5: got a lot of whack stuff because people are able
38:17
Speaker 5: to just go ahead and put on.
38:18
Speaker 1: We always had whack stuff, but through you know what
38:23
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I think there is a lot of I
38:26
Speaker 1: think there is a lot of noise because I think
38:27
Speaker 1: we are artists that know and feel that we have
38:31
Speaker 1: to say, yo, check out what I'm doing. Because it
38:34
Speaker 1: goes back to what I'm saying, there's so many artists
38:37
Speaker 1: that's putting out so much music. Why should I look
38:40
Speaker 1: at you?
38:40
Speaker 6: Well, maybe you should look at me, because not only
38:42
Speaker 6: my music is good, but when I show you what
38:44
Speaker 6: I'm doing in my house and how I'm bugging out
38:46
Speaker 6: with my wife or my girlfriend or my boys. So
38:49
Speaker 6: it's like a whole new thing. It's more than just music.
38:52
Speaker 6: Music is almost disposable. It's the person that they're looking
38:56
Speaker 6: at so. I mean, it's just like I watched your
38:59
Speaker 6: show and I agree. I feel like yo yo j
39:02
Speaker 6: I d like, where was his rollout? Like you want
39:05
Speaker 6: to hear him, you want to see him because the
39:07
Speaker 6: music was amazing. I needed to have now people seeing
39:10
Speaker 6: what he's doing. And then everyone's talking about how clips
39:13
Speaker 6: rollout was. But Clip was just doing what we come
39:15
Speaker 6: from doing, which is just.
39:18
Speaker 9: But you know what too, I think somewhat to the
39:20
Speaker 9: fans have gotten so used to just being okay with
39:23
Speaker 9: how things are now, because when he said that about Jed,
39:26
Speaker 9: people were like, y'all crazy. There was a rollout, and
39:28
Speaker 9: I was like, if you're in a certain world or audience,
39:30
Speaker 9: you saw it, but as big as it should have been,
39:33
Speaker 9: there wasn't. But so that might be a part of
39:35
Speaker 9: like it's not even at the bars in hell. It's
39:37
Speaker 9: just people have gotten used to this is all we get,
39:40
Speaker 9: This is all we know. They're praising things that are normal,
39:43
Speaker 9: and then when you do things that are under the norm,
39:45
Speaker 9: it's like as.
39:47
Speaker 2: Well though too.
39:47
Speaker 3: The artist has to want it as much as anybody else. Right,
39:51
Speaker 3: you don't see Clips coming from a place where they
39:53
Speaker 3: had to do that, right, there was no Internet. They
39:55
Speaker 3: had to go to every radio station, they had to
39:58
Speaker 3: go to every mom and pop store, you had to
40:00
Speaker 3: go to every college radio because it was that was
40:02
Speaker 3: the only outlets. Like you look at Jid, who we
40:05
Speaker 3: loved Jid, but he might not have wanted it as
40:07
Speaker 3: much as clips. And it's harder to say that the
40:09
Speaker 3: artist wanted when they're getting that much money so fast,
40:11
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
40:13
Speaker 5: In his defense, you know, he's missed, probably missing that
40:18
Speaker 5: that coaching element of artist development because of how it
40:23
Speaker 5: changed so much and you could easily put your music
40:26
Speaker 5: out from your house, so artist. You know, Jordan didn't
40:31
Speaker 5: no win no game without Phil Jackson. Every great player
40:35
Speaker 5: needed a coach. I feel like that's how it is
40:37
Speaker 5: with artists. You know, look at the success of everybody
40:42
Speaker 5: that was under Dre. Can we not deny that Dre
40:46
Speaker 5: is a great coach. Yeah, because of the success and
40:49
Speaker 5: there was artist development that went with all of that.
40:53
Speaker 5: That Right now, we're looking at a lot of raw
40:55
Speaker 5: talent that could use just some development, you know, and
41:00
Speaker 5: it comes from the people who come before them. That's
41:02
Speaker 5: where the criticism need to be a little more constructive
41:06
Speaker 5: and not bashing, you know, and then when you got
41:08
Speaker 5: somebody who making a lot of money, he going like,
41:11
Speaker 5: how can you tell me the two?
41:15
Speaker 1: Dude?
41:15
Speaker 5: It's necessary when I'm getting it, you know what I mean.
41:18
Speaker 7: It's just a word that has a negative stigma, but
41:21
Speaker 7: you kind of need it. There should be some level
41:23
Speaker 7: of gatekeeping. But the keep the keepers of the gate
41:27
Speaker 7: have to be pure in their intentions and their motive.
41:29
Speaker 7: They can't be influenced by you know, somebody paying them
41:32
Speaker 7: to say otherwise, biased to certain regions.
41:35
Speaker 4: It just got to be is this dope or not correct?
41:39
Speaker 4: I think I think that's missing.
41:42
Speaker 5: Really getting it. I really say to them, yoyo, I
41:46
Speaker 5: mean you want to be fifty doing this? Yeah, but
41:53
Speaker 5: I mean not could show you much about getting that
41:56
Speaker 5: paper because the times have definitely changed. But I think
41:59
Speaker 5: I have to show you something about longevity. But there's
42:04
Speaker 5: a lot of.
42:04
Speaker 2: Artists that say, I don't want to do radio.
42:07
Speaker 3: A lot of this, I'm not doing a podcast, I'm
42:09
Speaker 3: not doing like artists decide I'm not doing it because
42:11
Speaker 3: they don't want to, you know what I mean, And
42:13
Speaker 3: they get what they get.
42:14
Speaker 2: But the artists that go all out.
42:16
Speaker 3: And they do what they have to do, you see
42:17
Speaker 3: it with the success, whether it's a CARDI B or
42:20
Speaker 3: it is a eclipse like you see and you.
42:22
Speaker 2: See, you can see the difference.
42:24
Speaker 5: Man.
42:25
Speaker 6: I just know that we definitely benefited as a group,
42:30
Speaker 6: not only being able to come up to a place
42:32
Speaker 6: we were born, New York and run around.
42:34
Speaker 1: But we ran.
42:35
Speaker 6: We run around to this day in the UK and
42:39
Speaker 6: France and whatever.
42:41
Speaker 1: You want to call it, Dubai and we did.
42:44
Speaker 6: We do press like so we understand what it is
42:47
Speaker 6: to touch someone and even have that person be like yo, man,
42:50
Speaker 6: I ain't really mess with them, but you know what,
42:52
Speaker 6: they're nice guys.
42:53
Speaker 1: Let me, let me listen.
42:53
Speaker 6: And the next thing you know, you've now planned a
42:57
Speaker 6: seed for someone to appreciate what you do. And you know,
43:01
Speaker 6: like you just said, if someone feel like they're getting
43:03
Speaker 6: what they're getting, then why do all this? But you
43:06
Speaker 6: just don't know who you will touch and that'll lend
43:08
Speaker 6: to your longevity.
43:09
Speaker 2: You know, you don't know when it stops. You don't
43:12
Speaker 2: know when it stops.
43:12
Speaker 3: Because I always say this, a lot of artists get
43:15
Speaker 3: a benefit of the doubt because of who they are, right.
43:17
Speaker 3: I always look at and I hate to bring us up.
43:19
Speaker 3: I always look at fifty and jo Rule right when
43:21
Speaker 3: Ja Ru came out and salute the Job. He never
43:24
Speaker 3: did as much as he was supposed to because IRV
43:27
Speaker 3: did everything for him. So when he got into the
43:29
Speaker 3: beef with Jod, there was no personal relationship. Where fifty
43:32
Speaker 3: got into the beef with Job, there was no personal relationship.
43:34
Speaker 5: Now.
43:34
Speaker 3: Fifty, on the other hand, went to every DJ's house,
43:37
Speaker 3: went to every radio show, did the smaller DJs shows
43:41
Speaker 3: the bigger DJ show. So you lean towards fifty cent
43:44
Speaker 3: more because you know them more. I'm from Queens and
43:47
Speaker 3: I didn't meet Joe until the Breakfast Club, which is crazy,
43:50
Speaker 3: and we're from the same area. We joke about it
43:53
Speaker 3: now and he understands it now, but that's part of it.
43:55
Speaker 3: Like fifty did what he was supposed to do and
43:57
Speaker 3: he still has those relationships with these DJs to today.
44:00
Speaker 7: So y'all got a song on New I'm called the
44:03
Speaker 7: Package and you say, trend set is no where to
44:05
Speaker 7: bail from the trend they started.
44:06
Speaker 6: Yeah, that mean it's what we did exactly from three
44:10
Speaker 6: Fini Rising. We we we didn't try to make a trend,
44:13
Speaker 6: but when it became a trend, that was cool. But
44:16
Speaker 6: we was off to what we needed to do. On
44:18
Speaker 6: the second album date, I saw it's dead. You start something,
44:21
Speaker 6: but you don't started to make it for something for
44:23
Speaker 6: everyone else to do, and if they latch onto it,
44:26
Speaker 6: that's how the camaraderie, that's how the love for what
44:28
Speaker 6: you presented. But we on to the next.
44:31
Speaker 1: And that's how we've always been as as a group,
44:33
Speaker 1: just always on to the next to try something else,
44:36
Speaker 1: and it may work, it may not work. But we
44:38
Speaker 1: always saw ourselves.
44:40
Speaker 5: Knowing for a fact that we can't recreate what we
44:42
Speaker 5: did before.
44:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it was going to be.
44:46
Speaker 5: Created no at all, you know I could There's no
44:49
Speaker 5: way I could capture being fourteen, fifteen, sixteen when we
44:54
Speaker 5: were actually coming up with those ideas.
44:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's very important.
44:59
Speaker 10: That's think about sixteen.
45:02
Speaker 6: Yeah, like you sitting on ideas that once you get
45:06
Speaker 6: on you can put all these ideas you've had all
45:08
Speaker 6: that time into this one project. Now, once you put
45:12
Speaker 6: out a project, you're running around on the road, you're
45:14
Speaker 6: doing whatever, and now those experiences may be going to
45:16
Speaker 6: the next project. So let alone, when you get to
45:19
Speaker 6: this place where now you got to put up projects
45:21
Speaker 6: every month, you may hear like the it's like it's
45:24
Speaker 6: it's like redundant creativity.
45:26
Speaker 1: It's like, what is this.
45:27
Speaker 6: It's like you're not allowing yourself a chance to grow
45:30
Speaker 6: and have different experiences. But definitely as trend setters, man,
45:34
Speaker 6: you have to be able to know, like, all right,
45:36
Speaker 6: it's time to put this to the side, let me
45:38
Speaker 6: go to someplace else.
45:40
Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate it.
45:41
Speaker 7: Last question, when history of books talk about day Las
45:44
Speaker 7: Soul fifty years from now, what's the sentence you hope
45:47
Speaker 7: is written?
45:49
Speaker 1: We like, we did it our way man, we had
45:52
Speaker 1: fun with it.
45:53
Speaker 5: And three black men who stuck together.
45:57
Speaker 1: Done.
45:58
Speaker 3: There you go, Thank you so much, Daylight Soul, Ladies,
46:02
Speaker 3: Cabins and the sky comes out on the twenty first.
46:04
Speaker 8: That loved y'all, by the way, Twitter yet and I
46:07
Speaker 8: tucked in ninth and he wanted to tell me.
46:09
Speaker 1: I mean, get out.
46:14
Speaker 8: He said, thank you for letting him be a part
46:16
Speaker 8: of your tree.
46:18
Speaker 5: Man. I love him, I love love brothers man, all
46:21
Speaker 5: of them for real.
46:23
Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. It's stay like soul every day, up,
46:27
Speaker 2: waking ago, click your ass up.
46:29
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club finished for y'all. Done,