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19. Tooth Fairy, Trailblazer, and Teacher: Dr. ArNelle Wright Gets Real About Wealth · Talk Wealthy To Me

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  Speaker 1: Let's welcome. Welcome, we Talk Wealthy to Me. I'm Michelle Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: founder of Women and Well and Wealth. From breaking money
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  Speaker 1: myths to building wealth and achieving financial freedom, We're here
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  Speaker 1: to empower you to create your own path path Talk Wealth. Now,
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  Speaker 1: join the conversation, and let's change the way women think
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  Speaker 1: and feel about money. Are you ready? Today's guest is
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  Speaker 1: doctor Arnell Wright, a powerhouse in dentistry whose journey is
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  Speaker 1: anything but traditional, from growing up without access to dental
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  Speaker 1: care to becoming the first black female president of the
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  Speaker 1: Dental Society of Greater Orlando. Doctor Wright is not only
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  Speaker 1: a practicing dentist, she's a mentor, educator, and advocate for
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  Speaker 1: diversity and leadership and dentistry. Her mission to empower the
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  Speaker 1: next generation of healthcare professionals to lead with excellence and
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  Speaker 1: impact both clinically and economically. Hi, everybody, welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: Talk Wealthy to Me. I am your host, Michelle Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: and I am so happy to introduce someone who I
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  Speaker 1: think you're going to enjoy so much, Doctor Arnell Right.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with me today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I'm really really excited,
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  Speaker 2: but energy is good. I'm ready for us to chat.
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  Speaker 1: I love it well for everybody listening, tell them about
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  Speaker 1: you and what you do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, hey everyone. So I'm doctor Arnell Wright. As
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  Speaker 2: Michelle said, I'm socially known as the Daily Dentist, where
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  Speaker 2: I've been building my brand and my platform for over
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  Speaker 2: thirteen years. I am a general dentist. I'm a graduate
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  Speaker 2: of the University of Florida College of Dentistry. Go Gators. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: so appropriate, especially after last night, I know, yes, and
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  Speaker 2: we were just screaming to the top of our lungs.
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  Speaker 2: We couldn't even get to bed because of the win.
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  Speaker 2: We couldn't believe it. But I'm here in Orlando, I'm
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  Speaker 2: a general dentist, and I am so excited to just
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  Speaker 2: bring some of my thoughts and everything to you all,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, just share with your community. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I was just telling you out in the lobby.
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  Speaker 1: But it's so funny. I was pre dental so I
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  Speaker 1: love so much to see you and what you have built.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so okay, why dentistry? How did that happen?
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  Speaker 2: Goodness? So, I always like to start the story by saying,
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  Speaker 2: like dentistry found me right, as much as most people
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  Speaker 2: they know their career path growing up, or more people
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  Speaker 2: that I have grown to like hear their stories. They
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  Speaker 2: knew from five or three they had like a dad
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  Speaker 2: or mom and aunt and uncle who were dentists, and
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have any of that. So growing up, I
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  Speaker 2: actually didn't have much dental care. And I know you
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  Speaker 2: probably would never even think that, but my background is
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  Speaker 2: we were really just trying to survive. And so when
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  Speaker 2: I went off to college, I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: I get to take things into my own hands. I
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  Speaker 2: get to use my financial aid to you know, take
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  Speaker 2: good care of myself. And so I found a dentist
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  Speaker 2: and that experience, it was a routine dental visit that really,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, just intrigued me because, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it sparked something because the vibes, like I was trying
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  Speaker 2: to figure out, like my personality, how would I use
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  Speaker 2: that in the workplace or you know what that would
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  Speaker 2: do for me? And the dentist she was a female
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  Speaker 2: and she still practices to this day. Her son is
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  Speaker 2: in practice with her now. And her office was so vibrant.
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  Speaker 2: She would just be cackling around the office. You could
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  Speaker 2: just tell that there was a family environment and she
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  Speaker 2: really took good care of me, understanding my background in
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  Speaker 2: my circumstances, and so that for me, it was a shift.
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  Speaker 2: And I was not pre dental at that time. I
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  Speaker 2: was pre law. I thought that I wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: a lawyer because everybody in my family was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you can talk and you can debate, and you can
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  Speaker 2: have these conversations. And so I thought that I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to be a lawyer. So I was on the pre
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  Speaker 2: law tracks. So I ended up having to change my
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  Speaker 2: major after I had this epiphany about, oh, I want
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  Speaker 2: to be a dentist, you know, and so here I am.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big shift, big shift because when I went
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  Speaker 1: to school, I started off as elementary education and then
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  Speaker 1: shifted and I remember it was wild. So and it's
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  Speaker 1: funny that you mentioned about pre law because I think
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  Speaker 1: how many of us have said to our daughters or
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  Speaker 1: young people in our lives when they are strong women
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  Speaker 1: and opinionated and talkative, girl, you should be a lawyer. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I heard it. Obviously you heard it. That's
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  Speaker 1: so funny.
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  Speaker 2: I literally signed up when I got to college and
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  Speaker 2: as I was like, okay, I'll just be pre law.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, so you made that shift. Yeah, and now
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  Speaker 1: you was Orlando always home?
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  Speaker 2: No, So I'm from a small town winter Haven. We're
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  Speaker 2: lego it. You probably not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm from West Palm Beach and one of my high
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  Speaker 1: school boyfriends went to school in Bell Glade.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, rhetoric or Haven.
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  Speaker 1: They played each each other.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and so my whole entire family is there.
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  Speaker 2: When we we being my husband and I, when I
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  Speaker 2: finished dental school, we decided to move to Orlando. It's
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  Speaker 2: like smack dab in the middle of both of our families.
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  Speaker 2: So his family's in Jacksonville, mines in Winterhaven, and so
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  Speaker 2: neither family would have to drive like ridiculously far. So
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  Speaker 2: we kind of just wanted to make sure that we
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  Speaker 2: were in a nice area. And like, who doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to come to Orlando, you know? Yeah, so we were like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we'll go to Orlando.
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  Speaker 1: So, how how have you found setting up practice here?
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  Speaker 1: So now what are you doing? So you graduate from
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  Speaker 1: you have Yeah, you're a dentist. Yeah, you and your
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  Speaker 1: husband moved to Orlando. Then what happened?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, so to take it back, we had our
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  Speaker 2: first baby my senior year of dental school. Do not
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  Speaker 2: recommend doing all these big things at one time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So it's like we were getting married, having a baby,
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  Speaker 2: moving finishing boards, doing all of these big life changes.
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  Speaker 2: So we moved down here, and he was still commuting
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  Speaker 2: back and forth to Marion County because that's where he
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  Speaker 2: was working at his job at the hospital. And so
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  Speaker 2: we come down. I found a job and the recruiter
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, we have a location in Orlando. Orlando's
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  Speaker 2: a hot spot for dentistry, like it's where everyone wants
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  Speaker 2: to be, right, So it feels a little saturated, but
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  Speaker 2: there's always opportunities that are calling. And so I took
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  Speaker 2: an interview and I liked the practice, and I said, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's do it. First I did a phone interview and
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  Speaker 2: then I did an in person interview. I liked it,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, this is where I want to go,
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  Speaker 2: and so we came on down and it has been
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  Speaker 2: really good. So I worked in that first location for
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  Speaker 2: four years. I've been a dentis for eight years at
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  Speaker 2: the time that we're recording this, so well almost eight years,
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  Speaker 2: like eight years in a month. Eight years.
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  Speaker 1: Eight years good, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been a DNNIS for eight years at the
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  Speaker 2: time that we were recording this, and so my first
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  Speaker 2: four years in practice was at a corporate office in
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  Speaker 2: a Papka and so I would have to commute very far.
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  Speaker 2: But my baby was very young, and so at the
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  Speaker 2: time it wasn't that big of a issue. But then
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  Speaker 2: once I had my second baby, that's when I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I need to be closer to where like we live.
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  Speaker 2: And so then I transitioned into another practice, also still
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  Speaker 2: in a corporate office on our side of town. So
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  Speaker 2: we live on the east side of town. And so
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  Speaker 2: it hasn't been a struggle, you know, being and working
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  Speaker 2: as a dentist. I feel like I've had a lot
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  Speaker 2: of great experience. Not only have I been able to
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  Speaker 2: do all that, I have been able to learn about
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  Speaker 2: the legislative side of dentistry, like advocating for both our patients,
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  Speaker 2: advocating for the way that we practice from a legislative
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  Speaker 2: perspective within the American Dental Association and the Florida Dental Association.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you are the first African American and female president
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  Speaker 1: of the ADA.
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  Speaker 2: Well no, not the ADAH. I received that, but no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: not yet of the Dental Society of Greater Orlando's okay,
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  Speaker 2: so it's that I know, yeah, yeah, that's that's still
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  Speaker 2: a big deal because a lot of times when you
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  Speaker 2: finished dental school, you go into practice and your head
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  Speaker 2: is down, your focus on doing the dentistry. But there's
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  Speaker 2: a big world of dentistry out there, and our patients
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  Speaker 2: have to be advocated for so from an insurance perspective
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  Speaker 2: and from a payment processing perspective, there's so many things,
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  Speaker 2: lots of moving parts that if you only focus on,
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  Speaker 2: like the clinical side, you will miss all of this opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: And all of the people who are making the decisions
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  Speaker 2: are those who show up, you know. So I mean
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  Speaker 2: I can go down, yeah I could, But so, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what I.
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  Speaker 1: Think is so interesting is so many dentists, I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: have a practice that they leave to their children or
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in their family. Like I shared with you, my
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  Speaker 1: dad's best friend, who I've always considered an uncle, he
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  Speaker 1: is now working in practice with his son, and your
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  Speaker 1: first dentist she now brought her son in. And when
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  Speaker 1: we chatting earlier, you said that you wanted to at
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  Speaker 1: least have the opportunity to pass your practice one to
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  Speaker 1: your two boys. And absolutely it is interesting. Do you
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  Speaker 1: find that often that you see as a family office.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's more common than it would be
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  Speaker 1: for like doctor.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, or definitely because once we finished dental school, we
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  Speaker 2: can go and open a practice. Now, I didn't do that.
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  Speaker 2: I worked, like I told you, for some years and
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  Speaker 2: so at the time that we're recording this, I'm acquiring
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  Speaker 2: a practice. Every exciting, so excited.
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  Speaker 1: So anybody that needs a dentist in Orlando or has
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  Speaker 1: a dentist that they don't feel sunshine and rainbows when
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  Speaker 1: they walk in the room doctor rightch your girl.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Okay, thank you so much for that. I love
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  Speaker 2: that shout out. So I'm acquiring this practice, and like
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  Speaker 2: I was sharing earlier before we started recording, like it
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  Speaker 2: is for me as much as it is really for
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  Speaker 2: the next generation. I'm very tied to who comes after
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  Speaker 2: me because leading up to dentistry, I told you I
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  Speaker 2: didn't have like my mom or my dad or an
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  Speaker 2: aunt or uncle to really take me out of their
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  Speaker 2: wing and say, hey, make these decisions. You need to
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  Speaker 2: take these classes in order to get on this path,
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  Speaker 2: I've kind of had to like feel around and figure
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  Speaker 2: it out on my own. And I mean, granted I've
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  Speaker 2: had mentors, but your mentors, they can take you only
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  Speaker 2: so far, especially if you don't know what questions to ask,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't know what information you need. Right. So
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  Speaker 2: I want to do the groundwork and I want to
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  Speaker 2: lay those tracks for my boys. In the state of Florida.
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  Speaker 2: One funny fact is in the state of Florida, you
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  Speaker 2: have to be a dentist in order to own a practice.
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  Speaker 2: So even if they want to go into the entrepreneurial side,
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  Speaker 2: like we talked about out there and have this different lifestyle,
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  Speaker 2: or if they want to you know, do financial financial
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  Speaker 2: you know, funding different practices or opening practices for the
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  Speaker 2: next generation, they can as an owner of the practice
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  Speaker 2: and as a dentist. So I want to have that
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  Speaker 2: as an option for them. And I have so many
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  Speaker 2: mentees that look to me. They find me through social
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  Speaker 2: media strangely, but maybe not so strange. The world is changed, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the world has changed, so like there are so many
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  Speaker 2: that have found me. And in the past seven eight years,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't had really a place to bring them. I
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  Speaker 2: could bring them to my corporate office, but I still
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  Speaker 2: didn't have like my spin on it does that make sense?
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  Speaker 1: It does.
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  Speaker 2: So now I'll have like full creative control, like we
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  Speaker 2: spoke about.
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  Speaker 1: Well and with like the client experience, and I think
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  Speaker 1: knowing your personality and you are not a cookie cutter
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  Speaker 1: kind of No.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not. You're figured out already.
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  Speaker 1: So you're going to have creative control over truly making
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  Speaker 1: a client feel like they're in your practice absolutely the
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  Speaker 1: minute they walk in the door. Absolutely, that's exciting.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I want. I can't wait. There's so many
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  Speaker 2: developments that's gonna come about, and so you know you'll
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  Speaker 2: be seeing some stuff on socials and yeah, we'll be.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm here for it. I'm so excited. I
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  Speaker 1: So for you, you're a doctor, ye, I mean now
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  Speaker 1: that is a totally different field than being an entrepreneur
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  Speaker 1: or a business owner. So as you have built this practice,
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  Speaker 1: do you feel that you are equipped with all of
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  Speaker 1: the things that you need? And what I mean by
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  Speaker 1: that is obviously your equipped now as you're going through
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  Speaker 1: this process, But was it a big transition of learning
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  Speaker 1: as you go to figure out, okay, how do I
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  Speaker 1: perform as a dentist, but also now pick up this
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  Speaker 1: other hat in addition to mom and wife and friend
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  Speaker 1: and all the things to now be a business owner.
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  Speaker 2: I love this question.
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  Speaker 1: Did you feel prepared or did you have to build
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  Speaker 1: the plane while it was already in.
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  Speaker 2: The Oh yeah, oh, I love this question. Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: So I definitely did not feel prepared because, to directly
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  Speaker 2: answer your question, in dentistry, in school, we only learn
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  Speaker 2: how to be a clinician. So we come out, we
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  Speaker 2: can do the hand skills, we can diagnose, we can
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  Speaker 2: read X rays, we can identify abnormalities, and we can
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  Speaker 2: you know, put that up against something that's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be normal. We can do all of those things and
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  Speaker 2: really really well. Right, But that business side not even
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  Speaker 2: a part of the curriculum, only like a snippet of
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  Speaker 2: it at the end. Yeah, and rightfully so, because if
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  Speaker 2: we did have a lot of that business training, we
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  Speaker 2: would be in school for like two extra years if
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  Speaker 2: we really wanted it to be like quality. But there's
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  Speaker 2: this phrase, like I think in all industries, like lifelong learning, right,
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  Speaker 2: and so you kind of have to take interest in it.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to go back to your initial statement
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  Speaker 2: about there being a difference between being a doctor and
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  Speaker 2: a business owner or an entrepreneur. So interestingly enough, that's
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  Speaker 2: what we think as dentists, but we are really business
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  Speaker 2: owners and we are entrepreneurs when we go into private practice.
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  Speaker 1: Oh for sure, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: But a lot of people don't put on that hat.
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  Speaker 2: They keep their head down and they only focus on
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  Speaker 2: the dentistry and they say, oh, somebody else you handle that?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, well, and I think that it is when you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about truly build on a client experience, you have
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  Speaker 1: to remember that you're the one in charge and so
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  Speaker 1: many and when you say that, like going to dental school,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't learn any of that.
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  Speaker 2: No one is knowing no, no one's.
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  Speaker 1: Learning how to truly run a business to be an entrepreneur.
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  Speaker 1: And there are schools and tracks that you can learn that, right,
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  Speaker 1: But I think the world, as we've already both said,
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  Speaker 1: has changed so much in this entrepreneurship hype that is
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  Speaker 1: around all of us right now. It's like that elusive
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  Speaker 1: I want to do that, but how do I do it?
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  Speaker 1: And thankfully, when you go to school to be a
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  Speaker 1: dentist or any a lawyer, anything, the grit that gets
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  Speaker 1: you through that, I think is such a big tool
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  Speaker 1: that you can make applicable to being a business owner,
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  Speaker 1: but I'd love to hear also your story. How was
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  Speaker 1: your relationship with money growing up? Did you have somebody
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  Speaker 1: that kind of kind of was an example or that
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  Speaker 1: taught you positive things about money?
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  Speaker 2: Not really to what I can't say completely, not really,
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  Speaker 2: So I will say up until about the end of
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  Speaker 2: high school, okay, I literally didn't even know. Like I
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  Speaker 2: only saw wealth, and I thought it existed only with celebrities.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that, you know, whatever I saw on TV,
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  Speaker 2: those were like the rich people, the rich people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and it was like so far away that it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: something that we would ever have. So we were trying
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  Speaker 2: to survive. Like, my mom was a single mom for
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  Speaker 2: a long time. She did end up getting remarried. So
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  Speaker 2: I have a stepdad and he's great, and so they
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  Speaker 2: did the best that they could. You know, they taught
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  Speaker 2: us good life principles, and you know, and I value
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  Speaker 2: those a lot. I feel like I'm a lot wiser
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  Speaker 2: than some people at my age, if that makes sense,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, my parents are a little bit older.
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  Speaker 2: But I did have this mentor who was actually a
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  Speaker 2: teacher of mine from like third maybe second, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Elementary up until middle school, okay, and I ended up
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  Speaker 2: literally becoming a part of her family through her being
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  Speaker 2: in my life so much. He pretty much took me
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  Speaker 2: under her wing like I would do Christmases with them.
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  Speaker 2: I just became their daughter, right, And they were the
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  Speaker 2: first examples that I had that I could have something
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  Speaker 2: better than what I had seen. And you know, we
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  Speaker 2: always hear the phrase like you can't be what you
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen, and so that was the first example that
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  Speaker 2: I had had of something greater. Now I don't know
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  Speaker 2: like their financial status, like if they're like wealthy and
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  Speaker 2: like millionaires, billionaire, I don't know all of that, right,
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  Speaker 2: but all I know is that what they showed me
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  Speaker 2: was completely different than anything I had ever seen, Like
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  Speaker 2: money wasn't. I just felt like there was not really
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  Speaker 2: much restriction, whereas for us, we knew that we didn't
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  Speaker 2: have it, you know what I mean. So that's that
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  Speaker 2: was my first clear indicator that there was a difference.
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  Speaker 1: There was something else out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And so I am so thankful for that
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: experience because it exposed me in a way that I
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: had never been exposed. And that's why I want to
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: expose my children. Yeah, next generation. Yeah, yeah, And it makes.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Me so happy to hear that, because I feel like
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: the greatest gift that you can give to somebody watching
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: you is exposure to what else is out there. Yes,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: growing up, I had my aunt and uncle who had
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: done very well. My parents were divorced. Yes, single mom,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: but you know down penny, Yes, but I got to
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: peek behind the curtain, if you wis, and be like,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: oh wow, so we go on this vacation that that's
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: all I've ever known. But when they're going, they're going
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: on like these big vacations, these big things, and exposing
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: young people to it, in my opinion, can make them
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: hungry to go after. And yeah, I love that you
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: said that because for our kids too, it's so important
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: and I would love to ask you so if for
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: anybody listening, I know you've heard me talk about this story.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: But for me, growing up, I was chasing this lifestyle
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: right that entrepreneurship was the tool to get me there.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: But I always said, when I feel or when I
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: get older, if I can have fresh flowers in my
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: house all the time, I love that. And if I
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: can have a refrigerator in my garage with drinks in
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: it only successful people have that. In my mind, that
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: is what it would look like. Was there anything that
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: sticks out for you with this family where like they
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: had this thing or whatever and you're like, oh that's
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: do you remember anything like that?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I can say a few things, going on vacations,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: having a motor home. So like one of my life
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: goals is I want to travel the country in a motorhome.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: See, because I had never seen that young girl, and
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I think that we're so impressionable. And that's why I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: talk to you guys all the time on this podcast
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: about just pay attention who's watching you because you can
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: be changing their lives so far and now this. Are
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you still close to this family?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're my second parents. I call them the
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: mom my mom, which is my other mom.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, can you imagine like when you were going
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: over there, she had no idea that here you are,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: as a grown woman successful that part of your journey
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: is I want to have a motor home, yeah, to
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: travel because of what you saw.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were great. Yes, I had no idea that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: this even existed. Like they had a pool of course,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: so that was an indicator. And this is another one
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: which you know, we can have our differences on this,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: but so I think a credit card, Like, we didn't
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: have a credit card in my house, and so I
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I learned what a charge
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: card was from them. I had no idea what a
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: credit card or any of that was. That meant a
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: lot to me. That's access. It is access.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: It is now. And you think, I'm sure that you've
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: got you know, you've got your boys, but do you
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: have nieces and nephews around you?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: And Fridah, I try and expose them way more and
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I'm always like, I'm like that Aunt. I'm like, come
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: over here at Aunt's house, like y'all want to go
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: home with me? And I'm like, I just want to
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: show them, you know, what's possible. Yeah.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: So I took my nieces to Italy for their sixteenth
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: birthday and it was something that for me was so important.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: When I made this promise, they were three and I
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I could not imagine a path forward. I just knew
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I said it, and now I had to make it happen. Yeah, yeah,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and we did it last year. We did it. And
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: on the way home from that trip, my niece both
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: of them were like Wow. So I think it made
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: them look at entrepreneurship in a different way, not just
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: about money, but about being able to leave and go
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: on a trip, freedom, having the freedom and the autonomy of time.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: And one of my nieces said to me, I want
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to change my major and I want to do what
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you do because you get to help women all the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: time and the lifestyle you've built. And she doesn't understand this,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: but her saying that, like I just have goosebumps, right,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: is the greatest gift that she could have ever given me.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Because someone gave that to me, someone to you, She's
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: going to give that to someone else. And that's where
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: we change the narrative. That's where we change what financial
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: wellness and success stories look like for women that are
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: typically not at the same table or golf course the
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: guys that are having.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Found love that so much. Yeah, it's a gift.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: So you're going to get the mobile home. I not
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the mobile home, the motor home.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: The motor home.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, when is that happening?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Oh? You know, that might be far love goals? Oh
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you know, I do I help people reach remember maybe
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: like five years. Okay, I would love that to happen.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: We have the receipts everybody hold are accountable to this.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Now we just need to figure out.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: It mightn't even take five years. To be honest with you, like,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I believe in abundance and I feel like I will
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: attract you know, good things my way.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Well, and that's a really powerful thing you just said, tokay,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: because so much of what we talk about is money
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: mine's mindset, and I think for young women or any
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: woman out there, yeah, we don't even realize the things
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: we carry with us an unpack. I have had so
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: many guests on this podcast that will say growing up,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't I wasn't exposed to wealth. Yeah, so for me,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I thought of people that were wealthier. They were like.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Snood, yeah, selfish and yeah.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: But that's all money mindset, and it's done. She from
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: going after it because she don't identify as those things.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just realized. I just thought that I could
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: never have it. I didn't realize that it was for me.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: And it was when I was in college. There was
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a church that I was attending and the pastor he
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: was very vocal about prosperity, and you know that can
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: be a very controversial topic in like the spiritual space,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: and so I would always like lean in whenever he
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: talked about prosperity and he talked about entrepreneurship because he
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: was a businessman. I loved it so much too. And
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: at the time I don't think I was mature enough
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: to understand some of the lessons that he was teaching
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: us through scripture and through the sermons. But now going
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: into entrepreneurship for real, like full time entrepreneurship, like leaving
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: my corporate job, some of those same stories come back,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: and I'm so thankful that I heard those when I
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: was like twenty. You know, it didn't apply to me
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: at that time. Like even thinking about I don't know
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: if I can tell about numbers, but even thinking about
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a salary of a hunt. I remember talking to him
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: one time about being in a panic about making one
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars or making one hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: and he's like, I don't understand what the big deal is, like,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: but I was like, it is a big deal because
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know what. Yeah, it was a big.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Deal, Yeah, God is huge. You've done it. Yeah he
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: had correct so I think, but what he gave you yes, mindset.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I love that.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: He did not make it counterproductive to your walk with God.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Knowledge, and you know, I think it's so important to
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: identify and that can even be a money mindset and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: baggage we catch.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I honestly felt so comfortable talking to him. It
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: was him and his wife and they were entrepreneurial, and
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: so I just felt like there was something. But I
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: didn't really know when it would like hit me. But
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I was always intrigued when he talked about it, like
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: wealth and you know, being entreprene you being in business,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and I didn't really know what it was. But now
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, those stories they are coming back now.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Well and statistically women with money do good with their money, yes,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean that the boys don't. So I'm
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: very sensitive to that.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Ye love that.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I find it so interesting. And for me,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: even with having leukemia as a teenager and then like
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: trying to think through chasing after abundance, it was constantly
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: a roadblock for me to think, well, I'm healthy and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: that's I don't want to ask for anything else. But
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: if you reimagine and shift your money mindset around what
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: can I do with this to impact the people around me,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: even if it is only providing a clear vision and
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: pass for the younger people that you love that around you,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: like you say, come to my house. Yes, that matters.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: And that's what the thing that I will always take
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: from those conversations he would be, he would always say,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: what you could do with wealth. It's not about like
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: it just magnifies because people say, oh, you're da. However,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: he's like, it just magnifies who you already are when
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: you get money. Yeah, And so he's like, if you
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: are this way already, you're just going to be more
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: that way. And so if you're a good and you're
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: a good steward to begin with, you're gonna be a
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: better steward and you're gonna have more to do and
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: more impact that you can make in the community, the
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: world and your sphere of influence. And that's that's really
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: what I want. I want to make an impact on
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the people around me.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I agree, And I think that for anybody listening who
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: isn't sure what that impact. And listen, we are both
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: sitting here and fully aware that everybody is at a
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: different stage of their own money journey, right, So yeah, sure,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: it's easy for us to talk about abundance and being
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: able to give because we're muddling through this. I think
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: for anybody that thinks I don't even know what that
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: would feel like, I would challenge you if this would
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: help on the money mindset. The next time you're going
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: through a Starbucks or a drive through, pay for the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: car behind you, and I'm telling you that is the
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: best exercise to just see you're giving with nothing in return,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and it's three dollars or four dollars. I have gotten
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: caught doing that once with it like the guy behind
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you's order is thirty five fifty. I'm planning on that.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: But the point is is if you need and you're
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: not sure if what that would feel like, and you're like, man,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I want to feel what it would feel like, do
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: something small like that. It's amazing what giving a gift
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: to others can do to reshift your own money mindset.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: And I encourage everybody to look at money with abundance
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and say, it is meant for all of us. It
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: is meant to be a part of our lives. It
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: is a tool you all. We all have the same toolbox.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: It's what tools we put in and if having extra
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: money as a tool is something you want in your toolbox,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: then that is okay to want it and strive for
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it without feeling any kind of guilt or shame. And
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I think that's so important.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: What do you think was the best or worst decision
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: you made with money as a young person that maybe
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: someone listening, yeah, would And I shouldn't say young person
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: because we're all different stages, but like best or worst
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: money decision that you ever made.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with worst, which was not paying off
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: my credit cards like that interests racking up, not even understanding,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: oh my god, the interest, and now I'm like, uh,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I hate interest, Like what I have to pay interest?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: You know, So I'm like, huh, we need to pay
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: that off. So not paying off my credit cards and
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: maybe the story is living above my means at the time.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense? So yeah, so just not really
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: understanding like the impact that high interest credit cards would
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: have on like my own bottom line, if that makes sense,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: it does, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's going to be
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: a forever thing. I feel maybe it doesn't have to
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: be depending on like your money mindset, you know.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Well, it's shifting yeause you don't debt for people that
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: have been in debt, me included. You all know I
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: have terrible the movie Confessions of a Chopoholic.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Oh that was yours.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I should have truly gotten royalties, oh my gosh. But
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I think that when you realize that debt doesn't have
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to be bad, right, it also has to it can
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: be something that you say, I don't want any part
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: of this either, but understanding how compounding interest works, correct,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: it is so important.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: That I feel like that needs to be something that's
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: taught in school. I really do. And so we talked
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: to our boys about this right now, yea eight and.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Five, and it is. It's so important. And that's just
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: talking about changing generational habits. Right, I do the same thing.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And it's very easy to You want to be careful
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to not give debt a negative or positive persona, right,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I think shifting the idea to you don't want to
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: buy something that you couldn't afford to do without the card.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: With that being said, using a credit card responsibly, yes,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: basically is free. Yeah, Like if you travel a lot,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you find a travel card. But you've got to have
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the discipline. So I think that Zach that's the first
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: layer of how do I work on the discipline side
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: of this.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: It's like the behaviors that you have to hundred percent.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: And especially with accumulating debt and how it feels. Yeah,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've had to wake me up in the
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: middle of the day.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: It's heavy.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: You how much about debt. But I feel like if
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: anybody out there that is struggling with debt, I would
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: challenge you to think about how the credit card company
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: is feeling and they are living high on the hog, right,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: put yourself in that position, because when you learn about
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: compounding interest, what a tool it is. If you invest
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: your money, even if it's very little, whatever you have
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: capacity to do a little goes a long way. And
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: now you're talking about you're in that position of you
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: You're putting your money out there and it's working for
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you and that feels really good. So in those moments,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: for anybody struggling and feel the heaviness and the weight
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: of debt, imagine what it would be like on the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: flip side of that and let that be a motivator. Yeah,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: but that's great advice. Yeah, so not getting into credit
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: card debt? Yes, how did you get out of credit
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: card debt.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Pain lump songs, doing big like, so there's like either
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the avalanche method or the snowball. Yes, so I tried
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: both and I use both like I.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Want to favor one over the other.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Now, it just depended on how much extra money that
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I had, and I would just throw all of it
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: at the credit cards at that time.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: If anybody listening doesn't know the difference between those two things,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: feel free to drop a DM or a message in
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the show notes that we can. I can send you
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: resources very good tools.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very good.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Makes it feel doable, feasible, yep.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: And you know, in other way is like talking about it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: So a lot of time, I'm married, and so me
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: and my husband we spend differently. So if you follow
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: some of these like gurus and these financial teachers online,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: you know, everybody's like, oh, you have one spender who
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: like goes crazy and they spend, spend, spend, and then
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: there's somebody who like holds really really tightly. And so
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: we had to also talk about our spending habits and
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: our our thought processes what makes us spend, you know,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: and the purchases because I like to spend a lot
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: on a whole bunch of or a little bit on
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of things. So I feel like I
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: have a lot, whereas my husband he's okay with buying
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: one really expensive thing, and I'm like, you only got
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: one thing, you know, So we have different behaviors and
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: talking about it really has helped us too.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: It's so true, it's so important. Money is a huge
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: conduit to people getting divorced. Correct, Yeah, very tricky.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what I just thought of.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Tell me you think that the fact that you like
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: to have a lot of things, yeah, goes back to
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: a scarcity mindset of when.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Absolute, and that has evolved as I've learned more about
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: managing money having more of it, it's evolved even more.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And now what do you do with your kids? Because
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I've talked about this before too, where like I'm sure
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: when you went to the store when you were younger
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: and you ask for something, the answer was always hard
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: and oh yeah, and now when I go to the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: same thing for me, yeah, but now with my kids,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I've had to really check myself yep, and be like, Okay, no,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you cannot buy any of these things. You don't need
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: to get something. Every time we go to the store.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: But it's like I'm trying to fill the cup of
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: that little girl. Yes, and then I need to realize
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: that I'm now like creating their own issues my mindset.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: So it's like an ongoing game.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: You're just working on this.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: We are, We're just here, you know, and that's okay,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: We're works in progress. So what I do with the boys,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: it depends on the thing that they're asking for. So
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: we have this thing where we tell them to say,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: is this in the budget? So even if we have yeah,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: But I learned that from my college pastor in college,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: so he would have his kids say do we have
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: the budget for this? Or is this in budget? And
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: so sometimes we say yes, and sometimes we say no,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: oh no, not right now. But we also ask for
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: gift cards for their birthdays. So we'll pull from a
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: gift card and say, hey, you have Amazon gift cards,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: you have Target gift cards, you have these towards the
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: rust was a thing way back when. Yeah, I know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I know. And so we have all of these gift
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: cards and we'll say which gift card do you want
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: to use? Do you want to use it on an
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: experience or do you want a thing, and so we
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: also practice having them give away something like if we
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: buy something, they have to be willing to give something
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: away too, so that we don't just accumulate a whole
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: bunch of stuff.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I hate clutter.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Me too. Listen, physical clutter is mental clutter. I cannot, girl,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I'll get these arted.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I can't. I cannot where if everything is where it's
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: supposed to be, everything is fine, it's fine, And I'm
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: not going to be organized casts and I'm not going
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: to be a crazy person about it. But I try.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: It's so easy, I know. And when you have too
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: much stuff, there's nowhere to put it. So the answer
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: is go back to that like doing good for others things, yes,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like drop it off at a women's shelter, yeah, or
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: something to make gifting yeah.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what we try to do. Yeah.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: So where do you see your practice in five years?
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Like what is the big picture for you and your
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: family and your practice?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I love that question. So and I think about
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: this a lot. I want to be a multi practice
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: owner because again, when as it relates to next generation,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I want the people who are my mentees right now.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: So some of them are in dental school like as
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: we speak, okay, and they don't necessarily have a practice
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: to go to when they finish school, Okay, all right,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: So I want them to continue working with me, And
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I also want to teach them the business side, because
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: that's something that we don't get. So I want them
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: to have a place to practice and to take care
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: of their patients. And so I want to have multiple
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: sites so that they can come and have a practice
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: and then potentially partner in. And so I'm putting it
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: out there. I'm saying it to the world that this
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: is okay, I love it. Yeah, I want to have
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: multiple how many places? Oh, you know, I'm not gonna
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: put a limit on it, Okay, Yeah, I'm okay with
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: as many as God will give me. To be honest,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I do believe I'm a good steward. And I think
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: not only of like physical and tangible resources, but of
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: other people's like their trust that you know, that matters
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: to me a lot.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: So and that's true because if you're teaching them and
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: helping them and mentoring them, Yeah, you only have so
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: much capacity exactly, But we don't know what the number is.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: We're gonna say, yeah, but there's there's there's a quote
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: that I love which says, if you give a man
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: of fish, you feed him for a day, but if
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you teach a man of fish, you feed him for
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: a lifetime. So I hope to keep that cycle going
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: of people wanting to own and then teach and then
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: you know, pass on the knowledge.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: So that's yeah, great, that's just.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know, that's what I want to do.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Okay. So as you hire people for this office, yeah,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: are we going to see lots of women in there?
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah? Oh yeah.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: It's amazing too with how many people that are women
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: business owners. Even when it's a big business or a
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: business where there's like four employees, how many of.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Them probably have like four or five. Yeah, but that's okay.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: You know, I feel like, I know I'm called to
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: be a conduit and like a connector. And so when
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I think of my employees, and you know, there's some
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: future employees that I still have in mind. When I
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: think of them, I think of, like, what is their
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: career trajectory, what do they want to do? And I
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: want to start those conversations from the beginning because I
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: want them to know that there's something bigger because I've
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: tapped into something bigger than just the four walls of
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: clinical dentistry and just focusing on a tooth. And I
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: want them to know that there's more for them if
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: they desire to have it. What.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I love that because all eyes are on you. Yeah,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: you know when you ask for the platform.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Now we're making big things happen, I know. So Okay,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: So with your boys, Yeah, the goal is for them
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: to go into practice, hopefully.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Be desired or be entrepreneurs.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but just be really good stewards with their
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: money and their resources.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: If there was one piece of advice that you could
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: give yourself, okay, at let's say senior year of college,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: h or maybe even right after as you were starting
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: off on this journey, Yeah, knowing where you're headed. Yeah,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: what would you say to that young woman?
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Do it sooner? Go balsa walls? Like you pretty much
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: have it already, You're your biggest barrier. I can say
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: so many things, like I could have probably been in
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: practice for myself at year two, like I've always been
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: connected to like the business side, like taking great care
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: of the patients and then focusing on the numbers, like
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: how are we doing as a practice, measuring our growth
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: and our success. And so I would tell her do
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: it sooner. Be bold, be unapologetic. You have what it takes,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: and if you don't have it, you have someone who
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: has your answer. And make that call and take up
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: the space, take up all the space. Yes, and I.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Do love what you just said about finding the resources,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: because nobody, no matter how little or how much you
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: think that they have in their corner, everybody.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Needs someone the team.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Everybody needs the village.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Oh, I mean.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Here with parents parenting, it takes a village. The reality
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: is being in this world business owner or corporate America,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: it takes a village.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I can't do anything without my team like that, I
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: believe I need someone cheerside, I need someone answering the phones.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I can't do all of that. I need my team.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, find your village. Find all of the people that
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: are going to help you be a success. And then
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: subsequently you know they'll help you and you'll help them.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: And a lovely thing.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: This is good?
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: What is as we wrap this up? Okay, what is
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: your one dental tip for everybody? Oh?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Brush twice a day, floss at least once a day,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: you have to and using traditional floss, not only like
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: one of those wa yeah, like a water pick or
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: an air flosser or anything. Those are great adjunctively, but
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: you want to use traditional stream floss. And if you
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: have to do something on the go, I'm okay with
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: you using a little pick.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Okay. And then last thing as ye as a mom. Yeah,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: do you have like special ties with the tooth fairy?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I am the tooth fairy like we're whispering. Yeah, I
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: feel like I say.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I bribe my kids all the time, and I'll say,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: the tooth fairy is going to look at that tooth
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: and be like, oh, not leaving any money for that thing.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Oh that's great. Oh that's good. I always ask my
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: friends like how much money does your tooth fairy leave?
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: And some of them are like, oh my god, twenty dollars.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like for it. Who WHOOA one tooth ory is rich?
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: You know money? Mindset though?
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Mindset?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: So well so for anybody listening, Yeah, where can they
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: follow along kind on your journey or get in touch
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: with you? Because guys, I don't know if it translates,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: if you're just listening or watching on YouTube. But she
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: is amazing and make like feels good. Find rooms that
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: she's in and get in those room of us. Where
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: can they find them?
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: They can find me on socials. I'm the Daily Dentist
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and I also have started a women's network for multi
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: passionate women in dentistry. It's called Dental fem. We didn't
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: get into that, but we can another time. It's called
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Dental Feme and you could just connect with me on
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: any of the platforms, Threads, Instagram, Facebook. Yeah. So the
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Daily Dentist.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: So the networking group is that strictly for women in
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: your field?
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, multi passionate women in dentistry. But you don't have
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: to be a dentist. You have to be somewhere in
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: the dental worldness or in.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: The office or something.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So we're going to be talking about like financial literacy,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: being entrepreneurial, using your talents, leveraging your gifts, podcasting, all
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: of the things that I've somehow tapped into as a dentist,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: and the fact that we have so many skills that
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: are transferable outside of the office.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: And I hear that you may be the next rising
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: star in the podcast world.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm doing a little something, so whatever. You know,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I'm open to any door that's going to open. That's
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: the door for me, and you know, I just pray
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: that it's one that no man can shut and only
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: he can open.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I love that. Well, thank you, thank you so much
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: for spending the afternoon with me. Absolutely, and let's make
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: a habit of it.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Let's do it. Yeah, let's do this.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening and joining. As always, I
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: hope that you get something out of this that is tangible,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: that makes you feel good about where you're at, the
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: journey you're on. And as always, like subscribe, share all
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: the things, and let's change the way women think and
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: feel about money.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Let's get it.