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Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s Deposition in Edwards and Cassell v. Alan Dershowitz (Part 8) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where we left off with the Virginia Roberts deposition against
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  Alan Dershowitz. Question, Miss Roberts, we've been talking about when
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  you claim that you are sexually trafficked to Professor Dershowitz,
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  and you talk about three of the incidents that are
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  reflected in the joint your motion. Let's go through the
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  other three. Pick any of them? Answer? Which ones have
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  I told you about so far? Question you had mentioned
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  on a plane New York and New Mexico. Answer, okay,
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  let's go to Palm Beach. Question one was this? Answer?
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  I don't have a significant date for you. Question was
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  it before or after you met redacted? Answer? I hadn't
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  met redacted by then. I don't know how we else
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  You want me to answer that question? Well, if you
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  have no idea when it is answer, I'm telling you, McCauley, objection, argumentative,
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  special master. Let her get a question out. Let her
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  get a question out. Then you can object Borgia, what
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  markers are you using to identify for yourself? It was
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  before let's say you met redacted in March of two
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  thousand and one. How are you able to know that
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  this event in Palm Beach was before March second, twenty eleven?
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  McAuley objection assumes facts not evidence. You can answer, Special Master,
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  you can answer. Answer. I recall a meeting redacted, and
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  it was a very significant event, and I can tell
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  you it was before I met redacted. Question how many
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  times after you met redacted were you sexually trafficked to
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  Professor Dershowitz? Answer? I don't know. Question were there any question?
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  I cannot chronologically give you the answer to that. I'm sorry,
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  there is no way for me to do that. You know,
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  could there have been times after redacted that I was
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  with Dershowitz? Absolutely? But do I know for a fact? No,
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  I don't. Question is that true for all six? Answer? Yes,
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  that's true for I don't know. Question Who else was
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  in Palm Beach? Answer saying people, Jeffrey Glaine, Juana Lessi,
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  he's the butler. I'm trying to remember if redacted was there.
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  I'm pretty sure that she would have been. She was
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  always with Glane. No one else significant that I can remember. Question,
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  So that's four instances? What are the other two? Answer?
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  So I've given you Palm Beach, New Mexico. There's the
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  US Virgin Islands, Little Saint Jeff's. Question who else was there?
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  Answer Jeffrey Epstein, Glenn Maxwell. I possibly want to say redacted, redacted,
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  and I think that's it. I mean, there's a possibility
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  that there could have been another girl there, but I
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  can't remember. Question who is redacted? Answer he's like a redacted.
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  Question what's your best recollection as to the time of
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  year that this was? Answer? Well, like Florida, the Caribbean
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  is very hot all year round, so it's hard to
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  depict what time of year it was. Question I understand
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  it's hard. What's your best recollection as you sit here
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  today under oath? Answer That's what I'm trying to tell
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  you is I don't know. I don't know because it
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  doesn't get cold in the USVII, so there's no way
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  to really tell you it was winter or fall, or
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  spring or summer because it's always hot. Question where did
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  you go next after that trip? Answer? I don't know.
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  Question how long was Professor Dershowitz down there? Answer? I
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  think he was there from just from my recollection two days.
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  Question where did he stay? Answer in one of the villas,
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  he would have had to. Question where did you stay?
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  Answer in another one of the separate rooms. Question when
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  you were in Palm Beach the time that you mentioned previously?
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  How long was Professor Dershowitz there? Answer? I don't know.
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  I had my own apartment in Palm Beach. I was
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  called in for him. Question how do you know you
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  were called in for him? McAuley objection special master you
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  can answer. Answer I normally got phone calls when I
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  was in Palm Beach when I was at my apartment
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  to come in to give someone a massage. Question did
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  any guests get massages that were not sexual in nature?
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  Answer not that I was aware of. All the massages
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  I gave were of sexual nature, except for Evan Anderson.
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  I'm sorry, Iva Dubin. Question did you ever see any
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  male messuses? Answer once when I was at the island.
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  He was there helping me train. Question were there are
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  massages and the messuses sexual in nature? Answer? No, but
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  it was training, not that kind of training, actual massage training.
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  Question were there any messuses over the age of twenty five? Answer? Yes,
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  I think her name is redacted. Question were there any
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  over the age of thirty. Answer the mail one that
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  we just talked about is over thirty. Question can you
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  recall any others? Answer no. Question do you know one
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  way or the other whether there were any other messuses
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  over the age of thirty? Answer? Do I know of
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  any other messuses over the age of thirty? Question that
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  were providing massages to Jeffrey Epstein? Answered just to the
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  one male that was teaching me on the USVII and redacted.
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  But she was also involved in sexual acts. She wasn't
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  over the age of She could have been around thirty,
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  but she would not have been over thirty. Question did
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  you keep a list of messuses who came to Epstein's properties?
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  Answer no. Question did some of them come only once? Answer?
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  Uh huh? Question are there some that came when you
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  weren't there? Answer? I wasn't there? How am I don't know?
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  Question you don't know if any came as a massuse
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  while you were not at Jeffrey Epstein's property. McAuley objection
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  asked an answered answer, I wasn't there, so I couldn't have.
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  Question what's the sixth incident that you say happened where
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  you were sexually trafficked to Professor Dershowitz. Answer, we talked
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  about New York. We talked about Palm Beach, New Mexico,
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  US Virgin Islands, talk about we took the airplane. Question yes, answer,
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  there was an instance in a car, but it was more.
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  It wasn't intercourse. It was more McAuley. Use the term
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  that you're comfortable with. Answer more oral sex is the
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  good term to use. Oral sex. Question where were you?
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  Where was his car? What city, what state, what jurisdiction?
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  Where were you? Answer? This was in Massachusetts. It was
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  in a black limousine. Answer Who else was in the
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  car other than Professor Dershowitz answer Jeffrey Epstein and another girl.
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  Question how many people participated in sexual activity in the car?
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  Answer including myself? Question uh huh? Answer for question where
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  was everybody in the car? Answer sitting down? Question where people?
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  Was this a town car? Was this a limousine? Answer
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  like a long limousine? Question? Where were you going? Answer
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  to mister Dershowitz's house question where were you coming from?
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  Answer an airport? Question one was this? Answer? I don't know.
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  No question best of your recollection answer it was snowing.
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  It wasn't snowing. It was. It wasn't hot, so I
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  would like say, I'm trying to think of trees around,
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  but I don't know. Maybe spring. Question why were you
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  going to Professor Dershowitz's house? Answer Jeffrey and him were
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  doing some business. They were doing something at the house.
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  Nothing sexual happened in his house. Question did you go
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  in Professor Dershowitz's house? Answer yes, I did. Question how
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  long were you there? Answer not even twenty minutes half
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  an hour? Question what did you do while you were
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  in the house? Answer? I sat in I don't know,
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  a foyer with another girl, and Jeffrey and Dershowitz went
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  to a different part of the house. There was a
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  desk there and we just sat, not sat stood in
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  the foyer. Question who was the other girl? Answer? I
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  don't know who she was? Question had you ever seen
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  her before? Answer no. Question when you were coming from
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  the airport, had you flown in? Answer yes, me and
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  j Jeffrey and the girl had flown in. Dershowitz had not.
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  Question how did he get into the limousine? McAuley objection,
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  special Master. You can answer question where did he get
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  into the limousine? Answer at the airport? Question he was
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  not on the flight with mister Epstein. Answer not on
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  this occasion. Question did you tell anybody about this incident
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  in the car? Answer like anybody I know personally. Question
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  anybody in the world. McAuley objection to the extent you
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  relate something to your lawyer. You can say that you
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  told your lawyers, but you can't discuss what you said
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  Special Master other than he gets cut off by Virginia. No,
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  I told my lawyers. Question did you tell anybody about
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  it closer to the time of the event? Answer like
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  my boyfriend or something like that. No. Question after you
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  left Professor Dershowitz house, where did you go? Answer back
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  to the airport? Question where did you fly in from? Answer?
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  I believe it was New York. Question when you went
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  back to the airport? Where did you go? Answer? I believe.
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  See that's the hard thing. I want to say, either
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  New York or Palm Beach. I'm not one hundred percent sure. Question,
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  So I understand the timeframe? Did you fly on a
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  private jet or a commercial? Answer a private question and
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  you flew out again on private? Answer? Yes. Question, So
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  the timeframe is that you and Jeffrey were on the plane.
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  McAuley objection. Answer yes. McCauley objection mischaracterizes the testimony. Go ahead.
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  Answer Yes, Me and Jeffrey were on the plane together.
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  Question and the girl was on the plane? Answer yes question.
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  Anybody else? Answer the pilots question. So the three of
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  you took the flight correct answer yes question, and you
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  flew into an airport in Massachusetts. Answer yes question. Then
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  you took a limousine to the professor's house, and you
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  were there for about ten minutes? Is that right? McAuley objection,
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  Go ahead, Answer about oney of twenty five minutes. I
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  didn't look at my watch. Question. It was a very
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  brief period of time. Answer, very brief question. And then
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  you went back to the airport and you flew out.
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  Answer yes question, and you flew back to either New
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  York or to Palm Beach. Answer it could have Yeah,
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  it could have been either or I'm not too sure question,
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  but one or the other. Answer yes. Question when you
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  flew back out, was anybody else on the plane other
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  than yourself, Jeffrey and this girl? Answer? Actually, the girl
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  stayed behind. It was just Jeffrey and I that went back.
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  Question Did the girl leave in the limousine with you
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  and Jeffrey back to the airport. Answer no, Question she
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  was left at Professor at Dershowitz's house. Answer she stayed there.
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  Question do you know why she was staying there? Answer?
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  I don't ask questions. Question did you talk to her
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  when you were in the foyer with her? Answer? Like
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  I said, we basically just have not real conversations, not
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  girlfriends sitting down talking to each other, just I don't know,
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  brief conversation. Question did mister Epstein arrange for the limousine
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  or did somebody else? Answer maybe one of his assistants.
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  Jeffrey rarely arranged anything himself, usually had somebody else do
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  it for him. Question was there anybody else in Professor
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  Dershowitz's house other than the people that you mentioned Jeffrey
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  the girl in yourself? Answer I didn't see anybody. Question
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  was this in the morning at night? What time was it?
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  Answer after noonish, like after the noon period. It wasn't dark.
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  Question did you have anything to eat for lunch? Answer?
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  Not that I remember. I mean, I'm sure we did.
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  We didn't go out to lunch. We didn't stop at
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  any restaurant or anything like that. Question other than Professor
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  Dershowitzz house. Did you stop anywhere during this trip? Answer no?
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  Question was this during a weekday or weekend? Answer no?
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  Idea question were you able to see the driver while
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  you were in the car? Answer no, there was a
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  black like window. Question was it closed the entire time?
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  Answer that I remember? Yes. Question did you ever fly
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  commercially to any of these locations when you claim that
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  you were sexually trafficked to Professor Dershowitz. Answer I did.
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  Used to have to fly commercially to go service to
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  the men that Jeffrey sent me to, but I don't
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  remember having to fly commercially for Alan Dershowitz. All right, folks,
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  we're going to wrap up this episode here and in
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  the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick
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  up where we left off. All of the information that
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