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- 0:03Speaker 1: 1-877-CARS-FOR-KIDS.
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- 0:16Speaker 2: 93.3 KJR FM Sports Headlines.
- 0:20Speaker 4: Welcome in to 93.3 KJR. Hi, Jess.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Hi, Jess.
- 0:24Speaker 4: Can you hear me? There we go. We do have
- 0:27Speaker 4: Ian here.
- 0:28Speaker 3: I'm here.
- 0:28Speaker 5: I'm here.
- 0:29Speaker 4: Ian is in triple duty today.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing triple duty. We're good. Am I doing
- 0:34Speaker 3: headlines right now?
- 0:35Speaker 4: I think we should get into headlines.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Coors Light, cold as the Rockies. Seahawks lose.
- 0:40Speaker 6: Kraken get a point in Tampa. Huskies play at 5
- 0:43Speaker 6: in Purdue. 1 o'clock pregame show. Kraken back at it tomorrow.
- 0:46Speaker 6: 2.30 pregame. 3 o'clock drop of the puck.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Cougs and the Beavs tomorrow. God help us. Down in Corvallis.
- 0:53Speaker 3: That's all you need to know. Let's get the show started.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Now back to the Washington State Beef Commission's Football Friday
- 0:59Speaker 2: with the Inferness on your home for the NFL.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
- 1:07Speaker 6: All right, here we go. It is a Washington State
- 1:09Speaker 6: Beef Commission Football Friday. Jessamyn, good to have you back.
- 1:13Speaker 3: You've seen the light. You've seen the light. You've come
- 1:15Speaker 3: back with me.
- 1:16Speaker 4: Yes, I did.
- 1:17Speaker 5: That light was very strong, and it is good to
- 1:19Speaker 5: be back with you. I do appreciate seeing your face
- 1:22Speaker 5: and hearing your voice once again.
- 1:24Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Well, Greg needs to go get some sleep.
- 1:28Speaker 6: Yeah, I was doing double duty last night, one eye
- 1:30Speaker 6: on the hockey game, one eye on the game, and
- 1:32Speaker 6: then we jumped on a conference. We're going to hear
- 1:33Speaker 6: a conference call, by the way, coming up. What, about
- 1:36Speaker 6: 10 minutes or so, right, Jess? We'll hear that from
- 1:38Speaker 6: Mike McDonald.
- 1:39Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:40Speaker 6: He did his Zoom availability today, and both Greg, while
- 1:43Speaker 6: he was on the air, which is, I'll give him,
- 1:44Speaker 6: that's a hell of an effort, on the air, jumping
- 1:47Speaker 6: on a Zoom call with the coach. And then also,
- 1:49Speaker 6: I was able to jump on, too, one of the
- 1:52Speaker 6: rare occasions. And the questions I think that people want
- 1:54Speaker 6: to hear about the Seahawks, Sam Darnold, where they are,
- 1:57Speaker 6: will have all that offensive line we asked.
- 2:01Speaker 3: I asked about that as well.
- 2:02Speaker 6: So we'll get to that coming up in just a
- 2:05Speaker 6: Seven or eight minutes at the max. I'm going to
- 2:07Speaker 6: get back to the Seahawks in a second. Can I
- 2:10Speaker 6: just go through Sonic stuff just for a second?
- 2:12Speaker 4: I would really like this, even though I'm not going
- 2:14Speaker 4: to like it.
- 2:16Speaker 3: I think you will. I think you will. Okay. Oh,
- 2:19Speaker 3: one other note.
- 2:20Speaker 6: We are in an absolute wind sprint today. We have
- 2:22Speaker 6: an hour show. And the one-hour show we have today,
- 2:26Speaker 6: we are going to toss it to the Huskies pregame
- 2:29Speaker 6: show at 1 o'clock. They're from West Lafayette. We'll get
- 2:33Speaker 6: to that at 1 p.m. for a 5 o'clock kickoff tonight.
- 2:36Speaker 6: I want to hear from you. 49451, or maybe more specifically,
- 2:41Speaker 6: let's get some talkbacks going. Listen, people were pissed last night.
- 2:47Speaker 6: They were sideways. I have not seen anger like that
- 2:50Speaker 6: in a long time towards a football team. So if
- 2:52Speaker 6: this is your chance to get it off your chest,
- 2:55Speaker 6: go to the red microphone, iHeartRadio app, the talkback mic,
- 2:59Speaker 6: You guys should know how to do it by now.
- 3:00Speaker 6: You have 30 seconds and speak. Jess will listen to
- 3:03Speaker 6: your voices. Hey, do me a favor today. We joke
- 3:06Speaker 6: about this all the time.
- 3:06Speaker 3: Don't swear. Don't make our job harder. You know what's great?
- 3:10Speaker 5: We have transcription now, and the top one on our
- 3:15Speaker 5: talkback line, I can read it. And it is 98%
- 3:19Speaker 5: one word that we can never play on this air.
- 3:21Speaker 5: So I can't play that unless you want a gigantic beep.
- 3:25Speaker 3: Does it rhyme with what you play hockey with, a puck?
- 3:29Speaker 2: You know what?
- 3:29Speaker 3: It does.
- 3:30Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 3:31Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.
- 3:31Speaker 4: That's a really good mnemonic device for that. Thank you.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Beautiful.
- 3:34Speaker 6: So we want to hear from you today. Corbin Smith
- 3:36Speaker 6: for a few minutes at 1230. Your comments then. So
- 3:38Speaker 6: we're going to jam Sonics and Seahawks in this first segment.
- 3:41Speaker 6: Let me just start with the Sonics. Story came out today.
- 3:43Speaker 6: Brian Windhorst wrote a story on ESPN.com effectively saying that Seattle,
- 3:48Speaker 6: this is the money line, the money quote, the one
- 3:50Speaker 6: that gets everybody talking. Seattle is not a lock for
- 3:52Speaker 6: an NBA expansion team, right? That was the money. That
- 3:55Speaker 6: was kind of the line.
- 3:57Speaker 3: I get that. We all understand. Okay.
- 3:59Speaker 6: Read the story, and then I did do some intel today.
- 4:02Speaker 6: I did check around a little bit. It's a really
- 4:04Speaker 6: simple process. Vegas is a mess. There's multiple groups.
- 4:07Speaker 3: Bidding for Vegas.
- 4:08Speaker 6: They have a building issue there. The T-Mobile Arena has
- 4:11Speaker 6: to get renovated in some way, shape, or form. If
- 4:13Speaker 6: it stays with Bill Foley, who owns the hockey team,
- 4:16Speaker 6: he'll do that. If it results in having a new building,
- 4:18Speaker 6: there's also a delay there. I was told they are
- 4:21Speaker 6: anywhere from a couple to a few weeks away from
- 4:25Speaker 6: deciding who owns Vegas. Now, Vegas' price tag is going
- 4:29Speaker 6: to be upwards of $ 10 billion.
- 4:32Speaker 3: I want to say million. This is an insane number.
- 4:33Speaker 3: $ 10 billion. Understand that, right? $ 10 billion.
- 4:36Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about the valuation these days, isn't it?
- 4:39Speaker 3: Right.
- 4:40Speaker 6: But Seattle's expansion bid is thought to be far less
- 4:43Speaker 6: because there's no competition.
- 4:45Speaker 3: It's the One Roof Group, which.
- 4:46Speaker 6: Is led by Samantha Holloway, Melinda French-Gates, Andy Jassy, Amazon dude, right?
- 4:52Speaker 9: Right.
- 4:52Speaker 3: And others that are involved with this. Big hitters.
- 4:55Speaker 6: By the way, two female owners in the NBA has
- 4:57Speaker 6: not happened ever. I think the NBA would be, like
- 5:00Speaker 6: at some point, understand what you have here. And Melinda
- 5:03Speaker 6: French Gates is worth a ton of money. Do not
- 5:05Speaker 6: hold these guys hostage. But the problem is now is
- 5:08Speaker 6: that the NBA owners apparently, or at least some or
- 5:11Speaker 6: one or two, are trying to get Seattle to get
- 5:13Speaker 6: its bid up. Now, it's kind of like real estate.
- 5:17Speaker 3: What does the market bear?
- 5:19Speaker 6: If somebody else wants to come in and say, hey,
- 5:20Speaker 6: here's $ 10 billion in But by the way, we're going
- 5:22Speaker 6: to have to build a new building because they don't
- 5:24Speaker 6: want to be a secondary tenant or actually probably a
- 5:26Speaker 6: third tenant in some ways to the Kraken and other
- 5:30Speaker 6: things going on at one roof.
- 5:32Speaker 3: That doesn't make sense. It doesn't pencil out.
- 5:35Speaker 6: I'm going to just give you a quick resume piece.
- 5:37Speaker 6: I worked for two different arenas in my career. And
- 5:42Speaker 6: I understand how the business works probably a little bit
- 5:45Speaker 6: more than some do in our business. Revenue streams are
- 5:49Speaker 6: the utmost importance. Being a primary tenant, having the revenue
- 5:53Speaker 6: streams that come with permanent signage and other things associated
- 5:56Speaker 6: with the arena is of the utmost importance. That's why
- 5:59Speaker 6: if you see Vegas, if Bill Foley doesn't get it,
- 6:01Speaker 6: they're going to want to build a new building and
- 6:03Speaker 6: not play in T-Mobile. There's so many other layers to this.
- 6:07Speaker 6: We know in Seattle, you're not building a building here.
- 6:10Speaker 6: The city's in partnership with One Roof. They're not going
- 6:14Speaker 6: to allow Climate Pledge Arena to have a competitor here.
- 6:17Speaker 6: in the city limits. So what does that mean? You
- 6:19Speaker 6: go somewhere else, right? Well, we've seen this before. Jess,
- 6:22Speaker 6: how many times have we seen that? Hey, let's go
- 6:24Speaker 6: to Bellevue. Let's go to Auburn.
- 6:25Speaker 3: Let's go to Renton.
- 6:26Speaker 4: Oh, come on. I mean, the Chris Hansen debacle of 2015? Yeah.
- 6:30Speaker 6: And that property is still in Seattle. Just wipe that
- 6:35Speaker 6: away for a second.
- 6:36Speaker 4: Yes.
- 6:37Speaker 6: So there's a lot of different things in play here.
- 6:39Speaker 6: But for a different group to come in here and
- 6:41Speaker 6: bump up that price tag and make it viable... You're
- 6:44Speaker 6: going to have to build a building somewhere. That adds
- 6:46Speaker 6: another $ 2 billion to the price tag. We're playing games here.
- 6:51Speaker 6: I would just ask Sonic fans, just relax.
- 6:54Speaker 3: Be patient.
- 6:55Speaker 6: The process is brutal. No one likes it. No one's
- 6:58Speaker 6: enjoying it. We're all mad at the NBA for various reasons,
- 7:01Speaker 6: and something like this comes out. You see a headline.
- 7:04Speaker 6: Relocation comes into play, too. We'll take a deep breath.
- 7:08Speaker 6: Let's take a step back. The people wanting to buy
- 7:10Speaker 6: the team in Vegas want to buy the team in Vegas,
- 7:12Speaker 6: the competing groups, because it's Vegas. They want that market.
- 7:15Speaker 6: They don't necessarily want Seattle's market. So hopefully that makes sense.
- 7:18Speaker 6: Let's just deep breath. We have bigger fish to fry
- 7:21Speaker 6: right now, and that would be the football team. So
- 7:23Speaker 6: let's get to that. Before we get to the sound,
- 7:26Speaker 6: I mentioned a softie two days ago, and this is
- 7:28Speaker 6: why last night's– I hate– God, I hate when I
- 7:31Speaker 6: hear people even– listen, the players have to approach it.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Differently than us as media or fans or anybody else.
- 7:35Speaker 9: Sure.
- 7:36Speaker 6: Guys last night were saying, it's still early in the season.
- 7:38Speaker 6: We're six games in and a 17-game schedule.
- 7:40Speaker 3: That is true.
- 7:41Speaker 6: The reality is, if you want to win the NFC West,
- 7:46Speaker 6: if that was the goal, and that should be your
- 7:48Speaker 6: primary goal, win the NFC West, hopefully get a bye
- 7:50Speaker 6: in the first round, have home field advantage, that opportunity,
- 7:55Speaker 6: it's not 100% dead, but it's damn close.
- 7:59Speaker 3: It's damn close. Especially with what the Niners are doing.
- 8:03Speaker 3: And that's why, Jess. The 49ers.
- 8:06Speaker 6: Their record. Also, the Rams. Yes, you're tied with the Rams.
- 8:11Speaker 6: The Rams are sitting there with their losses, too. With
- 8:14Speaker 6: their three losses as well. Look at the schedule. Understand
- 8:17Speaker 6: that neither one of those teams is going to lose
- 8:18Speaker 6: in the immediate future. They have second and third place schedules.
- 8:22Speaker 6: Seattle has a first place schedule. It's the way the
- 8:25Speaker 6: NFL does its parody every year. In addition to having
- 8:27Speaker 6: every division has the crossover. We're playing the AFC West
- 8:30Speaker 6: this year, for example, and the NFC East. In addition
- 8:32Speaker 6: to that, you play first place schedule. You play hard
- 8:36Speaker 6: teams throughout the year. Those two teams didn't. Guess what
- 8:39Speaker 6: it was? A year ago, that was reversed. Seattle had
- 8:41Speaker 6: the third-play schedule. It worked out well. You have a
- 8:44Speaker 6: hard schedule. Those teams, specifically San Francisco, are ahead of you,
- 8:49Speaker 6: and they're going to run the table for a while.
- 8:51Speaker 6: San Francisco's going to be favored in all but their
- 8:53Speaker 6: second game, possibly against the Rams. They'll be favored against
- 8:56Speaker 6: Seattle at home. They're humming. So now you're talking about
- 9:00Speaker 6: a wild card. Why was yesterday so bad? We are
- 9:03Speaker 6: talking about a wild card now. That's what you're playing for.
- 9:07Speaker 6: Understand that. You're not playing for the division anymore unless
- 9:09Speaker 6: something catastrophic happens in the Bay Area, and then it's
- 9:12Speaker 6: you and the Rams. But boy, would that take a lot.
- 9:14Speaker 6: They're three and a half games ahead of you. Not three,
- 9:16Speaker 6: three and a half because they've already got the tiebreaker.
- 9:19Speaker 6: Last night was a devastating loss, and it was a
- 9:22Speaker 6: preventable loss. Everyone wants to know about Sam Darnold. Everybody
- 9:26Speaker 6: wants to talk about Sam Darnold. We'll get into hardcore
- 9:29Speaker 6: football with Hugh on Monday. We'll give him a couple
- 9:30Speaker 6: days to kind of decompress and watch the tape again.
- 9:32Speaker 6: We'll get to him on Monday with hardcore football.
- 9:34Speaker 4: Yeah, I would let him, you know, just whittle it down.
- 9:37Speaker 6: And I've got a couple other guys looking at some
- 9:38Speaker 6: tape for us, too, and we'll do that next week,
- 9:40Speaker 6: Cosell and others. But the biggest question is, what do
- 9:44Speaker 6: you do at the quarterback position? Mike McDonald also had
- 9:49Speaker 6: a line last night about our quarterbacks getting hit too hard.
- 9:51Speaker 6: The offensive line's under fire.
- 9:52Speaker 3: They can't run the ball.
- 9:53Speaker 6: Really, anything not named Jackson, Smith, and Jigba on the
- 9:56Speaker 6: offense feels broken right now.
- 9:58Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 9:58Speaker 3: So early.
- 10:00Speaker 6: Today, Mike McDonald on a Friday, because it's a weird week,
- 10:02Speaker 6: he held his basically post-game day after press conference.
- 10:07Speaker 3: Greg Bell was on it, and I was on it
- 10:09Speaker 3: for you. Take a listen. Mike, on the last.
- 10:13Speaker 10: Interception, what did you see looking back on it, and
- 10:16Speaker 10: how would you just describe your performance confidence level right
- 10:19Speaker 10: now and Sam and us also his confidence level because
- 10:22Speaker 10: it feels like that's pretty important for that position.
- 10:25Speaker 11: Yeah I think I think it's a similar answer to
- 10:28Speaker 11: what I was what I told Brian was I think
- 10:31Speaker 11: there's things that we can all do to help Sam
- 10:35Speaker 11: play better football and we trust Sam we believe in
- 10:39Speaker 11: him and we feel like we feel like he's definitely
- 10:43Speaker 11: part of a solution you know in terms of us
- 10:45Speaker 11: playing better football on offense and at quarterback.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Seahawks style offense that uh we all envisioned.
- 10:51Speaker 7: When hi mike what you say sam's uh best chance
- 10:56Speaker 7: of the solution he's you believe he's part of solution
- 10:58Speaker 7: what about sam's game makes him the solution what are
- 11:02Speaker 7: the traits that you're now trying to draw an attack
- 11:05Speaker 7: that you're not getting right now.
- 11:08Speaker 11: Well i mean you guys have been here over the
- 11:11Speaker 11: last two years we just won a world championship with
- 11:14Speaker 11: them um.
- 11:17Speaker 1: We believe in the guy. We see him every day.
- 11:19Speaker 1: We see what he does. We see the plays he's
- 11:22Speaker 1: been able to make. We see the actual talent. All
- 11:28Speaker 1: those things. That's where my mind is.
- 11:34Speaker 7: Are you concerned or is it just still six games
- 11:38Speaker 7: into a 17-game season and you're confident this will fix it?
- 11:44Speaker 1: I don't like using the word concern. I think.
- 11:51Speaker 11: There's a sense of urgency to get better in several
- 11:56Speaker 11: areas of our football team. A lot of those are
- 12:00Speaker 11: on offense, on operationally, how we're protecting the quarterback, how
- 12:07Speaker 11: we're running the ball. There's line items on defense, there's
- 12:10Speaker 11: line items on special teams. I really do believe, Greg,
- 12:13Speaker 11: that these things are within our control of things that
- 12:18Speaker 11: are on the input side of the equation of how
- 12:22Speaker 11: we do things throughout the week, what we do throughout
- 12:24Speaker 11: the game. To me, I wouldn't say it's exciting, but
- 12:29Speaker 11: that does get you going knowing that, hey, there's a
- 12:31Speaker 11: solution out there.
- 12:33Speaker 1: I believe in our people. I believe in our ability to.
- 12:37Speaker 11: Solve problems and work through issues and I mean, the
- 12:40Speaker 11: whole go through, not around, that's a real thing that
- 12:43Speaker 11: I really do believe in. So I think we're always
- 12:46Speaker 11: optimistic that we're going to be able to find solutions. However,
- 12:50Speaker 11: you have to do an honest process. You have to
- 12:53Speaker 11: go through those things. You can't just kid yourself in
- 12:57Speaker 11: times like this. So I'm confident we're going.
- 13:00Speaker 1: To be able to do that.
- 13:01Speaker 11: And a big part of this weekend is going to
- 13:03Speaker 11: be allocated to really continuing and making that process better.
- 13:08Speaker 12: Hey Mike, another one on the quarterback play realized there,
- 13:12Speaker 12: you know, different opponents and there was maybe one or
- 13:14Speaker 12: two players that were playing while Drew was, was starting
- 13:18Speaker 12: or while Drew was playing.
- 13:20Speaker 13: But what do you make of the fact that it
- 13:22Speaker 13: was across the board?
- 13:23Speaker 12: It was just so much cleaner when Drew was in there,
- 13:25Speaker 12: no turnovers, I think only a couple of stacks of
- 13:27Speaker 12: those two games, despite largely the same players around him.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Yeah. I, I respect the question.
- 13:36Speaker 11: I think, um, to make it like a one for one, Hey,
- 13:41Speaker 11: this one, this is the same and this is different.
- 13:43Speaker 1: And it's one person.
- 13:44Speaker 11: I don't, I don't think that's, uh, I don't think
- 13:49Speaker 11: that's doing the whole thing justice. There's definitely more to
- 13:52Speaker 11: the equation.
- 13:52Speaker 1: Um, you.
- 13:55Speaker 11: Know, what we called, how we got to it, that
- 13:57Speaker 11: certain thing, you know, maybe the process for drew, um,
- 14:03Speaker 11: how we catered the game, you know, to his skillset,
- 14:05Speaker 11: all the, all those things are part of the conversation
- 14:07Speaker 11: as well. But, I understand the question, but I think
- 14:11Speaker 11: there's more to it than just who's playing quarterback.
- 14:15Speaker 10: Mike, your comment last night about the quarterback is getting
- 14:17Speaker 10: hit too much. Is that just cumulative? I mean, everyone
- 14:20Speaker 10: looks at the offensive line at that point and says, well,
- 14:22Speaker 10: it must be the offensive line that's outside of Anthony,
- 14:24Speaker 10: the same guys as last year.
- 14:25Speaker 3: Is that scheme-related? Is that quarterback holding the ball too long-related?
- 14:30Speaker 10: Just kind of elaborate on that because it feels like
- 14:32Speaker 10: all these things we're asking you is kind of coming
- 14:34Speaker 10: back to that same issue.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Yeah, like....
- 14:39Speaker 11: I hope you understand, like, when you have, when you have,
- 14:42Speaker 11: when you have, like, at least I believe this, when
- 14:45Speaker 11: you have, when you have things that you want to
- 14:46Speaker 11: improve on your team, so right now we're talking about takeaways,
- 14:50Speaker 11: and we're talking about getting the quarterback hit, and we're
- 14:52Speaker 11: talking about the run game, we're talking about red zone defense,
- 14:56Speaker 11: you know, we're talking about the return game on special teams, like,
- 14:58Speaker 11: these are areas that we want to improve, right? If
- 15:01Speaker 11: you just point to a person or a position group,
- 15:04Speaker 11: it's like, that's not how football works, man, it's a
- 15:06Speaker 11: team game, and we spend a lot of time with
- 15:10Speaker 11: a lot of resources like investing in the process and
- 15:13Speaker 11: how we make these things come to life on game day.
- 15:17Speaker 11: And so it's never just like a one person or
- 15:19Speaker 11: a one group thing. Now, could you say, hey, look,
- 15:22Speaker 11: this group or this person needs to perform better in
- 15:24Speaker 11: their area of responsibility, head coach included?
- 15:26Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 15:27Speaker 11: And that's how we operate here. But could the offensive line,
- 15:31Speaker 11: can they step their game up?
- 15:33Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.
- 15:37Speaker 11: But just to point it on the offensive line, I think– again,
- 15:40Speaker 11: same thing with the takeaways with Sam. Does Sam bear
- 15:43Speaker 11: responsibility for taking care of the football? Do our runners
- 15:45Speaker 11: take care of responsibility for fun with them all?
- 15:47Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 15:48Speaker 11: But there's, it's a team game and how we set
- 15:52Speaker 11: our game plans up and how we execute.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Falls on all of our shoulders. So that's, that's how
- 15:59Speaker 1: we choose to look through it.
- 16:02Speaker 2: Donald.
- 16:03Speaker 6: And as you can hear from Mike McDonald there, I mean, like,
- 16:06Speaker 6: There's a lot of issues, a lot of elements. And
- 16:08Speaker 6: that's why I kind of asked him because his quote
- 16:09Speaker 6: last night, you know, I thought was telling. He says,
- 16:12Speaker 6: our quarterback's getting hit too much. And that's kind of
- 16:14Speaker 6: why I asked that question because, okay, I get it.
- 16:17Speaker 6: We all see that. Is that on the offensive line
- 16:20Speaker 6: or is it on everybody else? And as I said,
- 16:22Speaker 6: is it cumulative? And he goes, yeah, it's cumulative. It's
- 16:24Speaker 6: all those things combined. He's not making a quarterback change.
- 16:28Speaker 6: That's not going to happen. And we're going to talk
- 16:32Speaker 6: a little bit more on Monday with Hugh. about play calling,
- 16:36Speaker 6: offensive coordinator Brian Fleury. I mean, we've got three offensive
- 16:39Speaker 6: coordinators in three years here. Actually, four and four now,
- 16:42Speaker 6: including going back to Pete. But there's a lot of
- 16:45Speaker 6: things going on that have led to this team to
- 16:48Speaker 6: be where they are right now. And that's three and three.
- 16:52Speaker 6: And somebody just texted in, as Brad just texted in,
- 16:55Speaker 6: the 49ers have a bunch more losses on their roster.
- 16:57Speaker 3: I don't see it. And you can't bank on that.
- 17:00Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to win every week.
- 17:01Speaker 6: Really, Seattle needs to pretty close to win out the
- 17:05Speaker 6: rest of the way, including against an undefeated Kansas City
- 17:07Speaker 6: team next week. I mean, and that's just to get,
- 17:11Speaker 6: you know, we're talking wild card right now. I'm not
- 17:13Speaker 6: even thinking about the division. But Sam's a concern. That's
- 17:17Speaker 6: a concern. The offensive line is a concern. Is the
- 17:20Speaker 6: offensive line a concern because of the running backs, or
- 17:22Speaker 6: is it because of the play calling? Is it because
- 17:23Speaker 6: of the quarterback holding on the ball to him? Listen,
- 17:26Speaker 6: the last interception overtime, he had a pocket.
- 17:30Speaker 3: That's on him. That's on him. All right.
- 17:34Speaker 6: Corbin Smith joins us in just a minute. We'll have
- 17:36Speaker 6: a short visit with him. Big thing today in our
- 17:39Speaker 6: final segment, Jess is getting ready to get all your
- 17:42Speaker 6: talkbacks ready to go.
- 17:43Speaker 4: There's a lot coming in, and I appreciate those.
- 17:47Speaker 6: We may go heavy talkback as much as text. We
- 17:51Speaker 6: may go more talkback than text just because of the
- 17:53Speaker 6: interest of time. So that's coming up at 1245 today.
- 17:55Speaker 6: Corbin Smith, what he saw last night, coming up next.
- 18:20Speaker 3: All right.
- 18:21Speaker 1: I think we're back. Oh, we do.
- 18:22Speaker 3: Yes, indeed. It's a Friday afternoon.
- 18:24Speaker 1: Welcome in.
- 18:24Speaker 3: Ian Furness with you.
- 18:26Speaker 6: Corbin Smith on the line right Corbin, it's dark days
- 18:29Speaker 6: here in Seattle, buddy. It's dark days, as you know.
- 18:31Speaker 6: Emerald City Spectrum, of course, the Triple Option Seahawks podcast.
- 18:34Speaker 6: You guys went live last night with my guy Rob Rang.
- 18:37Speaker 6: No Rang today, by the way, so we'll get Corbin
- 18:39Speaker 6: on instead. Rob, back with us next week. Rob, Corbin,
- 18:42Speaker 6: how are you today, buddy?
- 18:44Speaker 8: Well, I'm still diving into the film from last night,
- 18:48Speaker 8: so I don't know if I say that's good or not,
- 18:50Speaker 8: but it's one of the roughest watches that I've had
- 18:56Speaker 8: in quite some time.
- 18:58Speaker 6: We know now that Mike McDonald's not going to make
- 19:00Speaker 6: a switch at quarterback. He made that abundantly clear today
- 19:03Speaker 6: in a couple of media availabilities, including one with all
- 19:05Speaker 6: of us on a Zoom call at 10 this morning.
- 19:08Speaker 6: So let's not go there. Let me go a different
- 19:10Speaker 6: route with you. This is not Jim Mora Jr. at
- 19:15Speaker 6: Colorado State who's going to turf a coordinator in the
- 19:17Speaker 6: middle of a game or the middle.
- 19:18Speaker 3: Of a season. That's not going to happen.
- 19:21Speaker 6: But I do believe that you, just looking back on it,
- 19:24Speaker 6: have some concerns about Brian Fleury and the position he's
- 19:28Speaker 6: putting his players in right now.
- 19:31Speaker 8: You know, it's fascinating, Ian, because if we would have
- 19:34Speaker 8: talked after Sunday's game, this is why context matters so much.
- 19:38Speaker 8: Because I thought Sunday that Brian Fleury had a really
- 19:42Speaker 8: good game plan and his players just dropped the ball.
- 19:46Speaker 13: I mean, literally dropped the ball in that game.
- 19:49Speaker 8: I felt like they had a lot of things that
- 19:51Speaker 8: were schemed up that really created some opportunities for them.
- 19:55Speaker 13: And they did put up 29 points in that game.
- 19:58Speaker 13: But last night, I.
- 20:01Speaker 13: I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I'm not saying this lightly.
- 20:04Speaker 8: I felt like Brian Fleury did not know the opponent
- 20:08Speaker 8: that he was going against last night. That's how bad
- 20:11Speaker 8: the game plan was. I see these slow developing play
- 20:16Speaker 8: action shotgun plays that are feeding right into what Vance
- 20:20Speaker 8: Joseph wants to do. sending the pressure packages, and you're
- 20:24Speaker 8: just taking way too long for the thing to get going,
- 20:27Speaker 8: and then you're running pulling guards on play-action plays against
- 20:32Speaker 8: arguably the most disruptive defensive line in terms of penetration
- 20:36Speaker 8: in the.
- 20:37Speaker 13: National Football League.
- 20:39Speaker 8: Those things just don't work, especially when your run game
- 20:42Speaker 8: is not one that teams are respecting very much right now.
- 20:46Speaker 8: They're just going to spit on those play fakes. And
- 20:49Speaker 8: if you are, if you're putting your guard, Gray's able,
- 20:52Speaker 8: for example, in a position where he's got to try
- 20:55Speaker 8: to execute a big reach block. just to try to
- 20:59Speaker 8: protect Sam Darnold on a play action play. And the
- 21:02Speaker 8: DT is just shooting out of his stance, getting up field,
- 21:04Speaker 8: like good luck with that. I just, I thought the
- 21:08Speaker 8: game plan, I'm just going to be blunt. It was crap.
- 21:11Speaker 8: It was, it was one of the worst game plans
- 21:13Speaker 8: that I've seen in a long time. I just, I
- 21:16Speaker 8: just felt like it did not look like they knew
- 21:17Speaker 8: who they were playing against.
- 21:19Speaker 6: Who's more culpable then? Is it, is it the play
- 21:22Speaker 6: caller as opposed to the players themselves?
- 21:26Speaker 13: I mean, the players don't dictate this.
- 21:29Speaker 8: I mean, I'm, I'm sure they had some input, but
- 21:31Speaker 8: like at the end of the day, Brian Flurry is
- 21:34Speaker 8: the one that is installing this.
- 21:36Speaker 13: And, and I've seen some people say, well, they had,
- 21:38Speaker 13: they only had three days. I don't need.
- 21:40Speaker 8: Five minutes to know what the Denver Broncos strength is,
- 21:44Speaker 8: especially when they're without their top corner and their top safety.
- 21:48Speaker 8: Like they were missing some key pieces on the back end,
- 21:51Speaker 8: but they still had everybody up front and, you know
- 21:54Speaker 8: what they are going to do with that defensive line.
- 21:58Speaker 8: So like, and I, I thought they had way too
- 22:00Speaker 8: many five man protections in this game. I just, I
- 22:04Speaker 8: had a lot of questions with what they were trying
- 22:07Speaker 8: to do. It just seemed like they were trying to
- 22:09Speaker 8: beat the Broncos and what their strengths were, which just isn't.
- 22:13Speaker 13: You know, if I was, you know, if I'm a fan,
- 22:16Speaker 13: I'm it's maddening.
- 22:17Speaker 8: Cause you're just like, why, why are we playing into
- 22:19Speaker 8: what they have on the field at full strength? When
- 22:22Speaker 8: we have some areas we should be able to take
- 22:24Speaker 8: advantage of. It was hard to watch.
- 22:28Speaker 3: Yeah, Corbin, I think that's, you know, it's a first-time
- 22:32Speaker 3: play caller.
- 22:33Speaker 6: And game planning, I mean, it's multiple things. It's game planning,
- 22:39Speaker 6: and it's also in-game and making those calls and doing
- 22:43Speaker 6: all those things. What you're telling me, what I'm hearing
- 22:47Speaker 6: right now, is that going into the game, the game
- 22:51Speaker 6: plan itself, was flawed at least from what you're seeing
- 22:55Speaker 6: and i think anybody watching the game would believe that
- 22:58Speaker 6: to be the case so then i asked myself well
- 23:01Speaker 6: it's not just brian flurry i asked the question today
- 23:03Speaker 6: to mike mcdonald in the press conference about you know
- 23:06Speaker 6: is it is it cumulative is it not just because
- 23:08Speaker 6: he he kind of went after the offensive line last
- 23:09Speaker 6: night our quarterback's getting hit too much that everybody takes
- 23:12Speaker 6: that as the offensive line we know it's more than
- 23:13Speaker 6: that the quarterback holds the ball play calls all those
- 23:15Speaker 6: types of things what you're talking about asking gray's able
- 23:17Speaker 6: 11 a left guard to do a pull and a
- 23:20Speaker 6: reach block, and then leaves a cornerback wide open on
- 23:23Speaker 6: a blitz. All those things kind of come into play.
- 23:26Speaker 6: But here's the thing. It's not just Brian Fleury. He
- 23:28Speaker 6: has an offensive staff. That's my concern. It's not just
- 23:32Speaker 6: Brian Fleury, right? It's an offensive staff that has an issue. Look,
- 23:39Speaker 6: John Benton, I think.
- 23:40Speaker 13: Is one of the best line coaches in football.
- 23:42Speaker 8: So I'm not going to be jumping to conclusions that
- 23:45Speaker 8: he suddenly lost his ability to coach.
- 23:48Speaker 3: And let me just say, I'm not either. I'm not either.
- 23:51Speaker 6: I'm just saying we can't put all the blame on
- 23:53Speaker 6: the offensive coordinator, can we?
- 23:56Speaker 13: I agree with you.
- 23:59Speaker 8: The point I'm trying to make here, though, Ian, and
- 24:01Speaker 8: this is just based, again, on what I watched in
- 24:03Speaker 8: this game just last night. I see a situation developing
- 24:09Speaker 8: where it just feels like the communication is is completely
- 24:15Speaker 8: off kilter and it isn't just with the offensive line
- 24:18Speaker 8: it seems like sam darnold does not trust he i
- 24:21Speaker 8: mean it's not seeming it's obvious he does not trust
- 24:23Speaker 8: what he's seeing and i think that there's a major
- 24:26Speaker 8: problem with the communication element and i just you know
- 24:29Speaker 8: i just posted this on social media i think this
- 24:31Speaker 8: is a massive problem that they have got to get
- 24:34Speaker 8: fixed they're getting the play calls in way too late, consistently.
- 24:38Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
- 24:39Speaker 8: And what that does, this is a cumulative thing. If
- 24:43Speaker 8: you're getting to the line of scrimmage with seven seconds
- 24:46Speaker 8: to go on the play clock, you're just rushing so
- 24:49Speaker 8: you can get the snap off. And I haven't got
- 24:52Speaker 8: a chance to go watch the TV copy again to
- 24:55Speaker 8: see how many times it's happened, but it felt like
- 24:58Speaker 8: the entire game that they were up against it trying
- 25:01Speaker 8: to get snaps off. And what that means is, one,
- 25:05Speaker 8: you don't have the proper time to be able to
- 25:07Speaker 8: really make sure you're getting the right pass protection calls.
- 25:10Speaker 8: Like if you're rushing up to the line with five seconds,
- 25:13Speaker 8: you can't be like, hey, let's switch up what we're
- 25:16Speaker 8: doing with our communication. Five seconds, you don't have enough
- 25:18Speaker 8: time to do that. And there were several times last
- 25:21Speaker 8: night where it was clearly evident that not everybody was
- 25:24Speaker 8: on the same page and what they were.
- 25:25Speaker 13: Supposed to be doing in their pass protection assignments.
- 25:28Speaker 8: The other problem is it prevents Sam Darnold from being
- 25:31Speaker 8: able to really scan the defense and read what he
- 25:34Speaker 8: is seeing. And I think that's why we're seeing some
- 25:37Speaker 8: of these really bad throws where he's throwing into double coverage.
- 25:43Speaker 13: It's like, what is he seeing?
- 25:44Speaker 8: I don't think he's seeing it because he's not getting
- 25:46Speaker 8: to the line of scrimmage quick enough to be able
- 25:48Speaker 8: to see what's going on there. So that is a
- 25:52Speaker 8: massive problem that they've talked about in press conferences already.
- 25:56Speaker 13: Like they are aware of it, but it's not getting better.
- 25:59Speaker 13: So they've got to address that.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Corbin Smith with us just for a couple more moments.
- 26:03Speaker 3: You know what?
- 26:04Speaker 6: It gives me a flashback. Remember Russ's last year here?
- 26:08Speaker 6: That was a huge issue.
- 26:09Speaker 3: Yep. Right?
- 26:10Speaker 6: That was a huge issue, Russ's last year here. Was
- 26:13Speaker 6: that the first year of Shane Waldron, maybe?
- 26:15Speaker 3: That was Shottie, yeah. Yeah, or Shottie.
- 26:17Speaker 7: No, no, no.
- 26:17Speaker 3: That was Shane Waldron.
- 26:18Speaker 13: Yeah, that was Waldron.
- 26:19Speaker 3: That was Shane. Yeah.
- 26:21Speaker 8: I know Shottie Heimer had the one in the playoff game,
- 26:23Speaker 8: which usually he was pretty good about getting the play
- 26:26Speaker 8: call in.
- 26:26Speaker 2: Man.
- 26:27Speaker 5: Man.
- 26:28Speaker 3: Well, all right, let me wrap it up with this.
- 26:32Speaker 3: Where do they go from here?
- 26:35Speaker 8: Well, the good news is you have 10 days in
- 26:38Speaker 8: between games. You have time to be able to get
- 26:42Speaker 8: back to the drawing board and try to fix some things.
- 26:44Speaker 8: But I'm looking at Mike McDonald here like you've got
- 26:47Speaker 8: to find a way. I don't think you take play
- 26:49Speaker 8: calling responsibilities away from Brian Fleury because I think he's
- 26:53Speaker 8: had some good games. But you've got to sit down
- 26:56Speaker 8: as a coach, and you've got to work with your coaches. Like, hey,
- 27:00Speaker 8: what were you thinking with the process here? Mike McDonald
- 27:04Speaker 8: talks about the process all the time. The process was
- 27:07Speaker 8: terrible last night, all the way around. You've got to
- 27:10Speaker 8: sit down with your OC, and you've got to sit
- 27:13Speaker 8: down with the rest of your coaching staff. Like, I'm
- 27:15Speaker 8: sitting down with Thomas Hammock, and I'm saying, why are
- 27:17Speaker 8: our running backs missing so many of their pass protection teams?
- 27:20Speaker 8: duties like this is not just a George Helani problem
- 27:23Speaker 8: George is normally very good in pass pro so what
- 27:26Speaker 8: is going on here are the guys just not sure
- 27:29Speaker 8: what they're supposed to be doing and they're playing tentative
- 27:32Speaker 8: like what's being coached here like they've got to look
- 27:35Speaker 8: at those fundamental issues right now that are rocking this
- 27:39Speaker 8: offense and there's got to be some accountability with the
- 27:43Speaker 8: guys on your staff so Mike McDonald is going to
- 27:45Speaker 8: have to dish out some tough love over the next
- 27:47Speaker 8: several days, and then that has got to trickle down
- 27:51Speaker 8: to the players that are making all the mistakes that
- 27:53Speaker 8: they're making. There's got to be accountability, and it's got
- 27:56Speaker 8: to start up top and trickle down to the coaches
- 27:59Speaker 8: and the players.
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- 28:10Speaker 6: Corbin, we'll check in with you normal time next week
- 28:12Speaker 6: on Wednesday.
- 28:12Speaker 3: Thank you, my friend.
- 28:13Speaker 13: Yep, sounds good.
- 28:14Speaker 5: Thanks.
- 28:16Speaker 6: Next, you, your voices. We will hear your voices. Jess
- 28:20Speaker 6: has got them all ready to go. And I don't
- 28:22Speaker 6: think any swearing will be happening. Good job on all
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- 29:04Speaker 2: I understand not taking the job away from Sam.
- 29:07Speaker 3: I get that. I'm not saying he needs his job
- 29:09Speaker 3: taken away. But can we put Drew Locke in for
- 29:13Speaker 3: one drive?
- 29:14Speaker 13: Let's just see what happens.
- 29:15Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We're not in the Drew Locke. We're not
- 29:18Speaker 3: in the Sam Darnold business. We're in the business of
- 29:20Speaker 3: winning championships.
- 29:21Speaker 12: If that puts us in the best opportunity to win,
- 29:24Speaker 12: why are we not at least giving that a try?
- 29:27Speaker 3: Okay.
- 29:27Speaker 6: Let me hit that one real quick, Jess. Let me
- 29:30Speaker 6: hit that one real quick. That's a great one. It's
- 29:32Speaker 6: a great one to start with. College, you see that.
- 29:37Speaker 6: The NFL, you do not. that it's as simple as
- 29:40Speaker 6: that i mean honestly and there's inherent differences between the
- 29:44Speaker 6: nfl and college and the nfl your number one is
- 29:48Speaker 6: your number one you don't have a five star sitting
- 29:52Speaker 6: behind you that's a highly recruited player You don't have
- 29:55Speaker 6: Owen Eshelman behind Caden Pinnock, who's accomplished nothing. You don't
- 29:59Speaker 6: have Elijah Brown behind DeMond Williams, who started at Stanford.
- 30:03Speaker 3: It's different.
- 30:04Speaker 6: I understand the sentiment, and there's probably parts of me
- 30:07Speaker 6: thinking the same thing yesterday.
- 30:08Speaker 3: All right, next one. We've got to get some in.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Let's go.
- 30:11Speaker 9: The Seahawks cannot and will not go back to Drew Locke.
- 30:15Speaker 11: They've never been an organization to press the panic button
- 30:19Speaker 11: and backpedal.
- 30:21Speaker 1: Sam Darnold... won them and.
- 30:23Speaker 14: Us a super bowl last year they're married to him
- 30:26Speaker 14: for another year or two hopefully he can improve go
- 30:29Speaker 14: hawks and i.
- 30:31Speaker 6: Think if you listen to corbin and even hugh this
- 30:33Speaker 6: morning it's not just him that needs to improve it's
- 30:34Speaker 6: everybody on the offense play calling offensive line running all
- 30:38Speaker 6: the running backs are just a disaster like let's just
- 30:39Speaker 6: be honest like that just you and i think that
- 30:42Speaker 6: goes back to play calling emmanuel wilson can't get to
- 30:43Speaker 6: the outside why are you running him on stretch plays
- 30:46Speaker 6: why i'm not i hate doing this because i'm not
- 30:48Speaker 6: an offensive coordinator i just i hate but like All
- 30:51Speaker 6: of our eyes see the same thing.
- 30:53Speaker 3: Next.
- 30:53Speaker 13: I never thought I.
- 30:57Speaker 14: Would say this, but the Seahawks need Anthony Bradford back,
- 31:02Speaker 14: and it's pretty obvious. Also, I will never, ever, ever
- 31:07Speaker 14: financially support any NBA franchise ever again.
- 31:13Speaker 6: That is a P1 listener who got segment one, Both
- 31:19Speaker 6: the first half of segment one and the second half
- 31:21Speaker 6: of segment one. By the way, all the Anthony Bradford
- 31:24Speaker 6: hate for all the last few years. Oh, you're missing
- 31:27Speaker 6: him right now, aren't you?
- 31:28Speaker 3: Aren't you?
- 31:28Speaker 6: The funny thing about Anthony Bradford, he's great in the
- 31:31Speaker 6: run game. His pass blocking has always traditionally been his weakness.
- 31:34Speaker 6: But would you not take that road grader right now
- 31:36Speaker 6: in the run blocking game?
- 31:37Speaker 3: All day and every day.
- 31:38Speaker 4: I mean, he makes the perfect point.
- 31:40Speaker 3: All day, every day. All right, we got a couple more. Jess,
- 31:42Speaker 3: how many more do we have?
- 31:43Speaker 1: We do.
- 31:44Speaker 4: Here, let's just keep going because they keep coming in.
- 31:46Speaker 3: Fire away.
- 31:47Speaker 9: In Sam's defense, he's got no running game, and the
- 31:51Speaker 9: offensive line is playing terrible. That said, he needs to
- 31:55Speaker 9: play better. They had an opportunity to win that game
- 31:57Speaker 9: last night, to win the 49er game, and he needs
- 32:02Speaker 9: to play better.
- 32:04Speaker 3: I think that nailed it.
- 32:05Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think you can say it any better.
- 32:08Speaker 6: I don't think you can say it any better. I
- 32:10Speaker 6: think he absolutely nailed it. He's got to be better,
- 32:13Speaker 6: but so does everybody else.
- 32:14Speaker 3: Continue, Jess.
- 32:16Speaker 15: Sam Donald is a bum. He led the league in
- 32:18Speaker 15: turnovers last year. He's on probably pace to beat that.
- 32:23Speaker 15: Drew Locke's 3-0 with roughly seven touchdowns, no picks, no fumbles.
- 32:27Speaker 15: Sam Donald's 0-3, seven, eight picks, multiple fumbles. We've lost
- 32:32Speaker 15: all three games because of his poor decision-making, and he
- 32:35Speaker 15: just looks scared back there. He's back again seeing ghosts.
- 32:38Speaker 15: Bench him, get rid of him, whatever you got to do.
- 32:41Speaker 1: He's not our guy.
- 32:42Speaker 3: Jess, we have 50 seconds left.
- 32:44Speaker 6: Can we squeeze one more in before we have to
- 32:45Speaker 6: toss it to Husky Football?
- 32:46Speaker 3: I can try.
- 32:48Speaker 16: So with all the talk about the Seahawks, a couple things.
- 32:52Speaker 16: I know the OC is getting bashed, and everybody wants
- 32:55Speaker 16: Drew Locke. But isn't it the same OC that Drew
- 32:58Speaker 16: Locke had that Sam Donald has? So I don't know
- 33:02Speaker 16: if it's going to make much difference. I think we
- 33:04Speaker 16: should go with Sam Donald at least for one more game.
- 33:08Speaker 16: He has no running game, and... Lucas and Zabel were
- 33:12Speaker 16: terrible last night. So one more game of Sam.
- 33:16Speaker 3: I don't think you could say it much better than that.
- 33:17Speaker 3: I'll say this.
- 33:18Speaker 6: If you were listening to our show earlier today, both
- 33:20Speaker 6: Greg Bell and myself were on the press conference with
- 33:22Speaker 6: Mike McDonald, and they're not making a quarterback change. It'll
- 33:25Speaker 6: be Sam Darnold under center against the Kansas City Chiefs
- 33:28Speaker 6: next week.
- 33:29Speaker 3: All right, that's it. We're back with three hours on Monday.
- 33:31Speaker 3: Thank goodness.
- 33:32Speaker 6: We're going to need four or five hours. Don't tell
- 33:34Speaker 6: the boss that. Husky football at Purdue coming up next.