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- M: you Jonathan: Immortals to the Fantasy Football War Council's podcast. Here are your gods of war, Jonathan Arsene, along with Mario and Daniel Gutierrez. Hello and welcome to another meeting at the Fantasy Football War Council. I'm your god of war, Jonathan. And as always, I'm joined by Daniel, who is back in the studio today. Welcome back, Daniel. M: and welcome to another Daniel: Yeah, thank you. Not quite as always, but trying to get back on that one. Jonathan: Yeah, we'll get you back. We'll get you back. And then we are joined today by Martin, but I did just see him drop out. So I hope he gets back in. He will join back in shortly. He is on the road driving now today's podcast. We are talking, we have combine talk, have trades, ⁓ free agency has opened and it started and it's long gone. So ⁓ There's lots of moves and just we have a lot to go on and I even wrote some trivia questions that I thought were really funny. So, ⁓ but anyway, let's get into the news. Daniel: Very nice. Well, I'm not sure which news was covered last time. I did look at the other doc. ⁓ Jonathan: I did go down. see. was, we talked the fastest combine in history last time. The trade with the Rams and the Chiefs with Trent Mcduffey. Seahawks did not use the tag on Kenneth Walker. Arizona was one of the, it was just more of like people leaving and tags. didn't go into any kind of current. Daniel: Let's see... Yeah. Well, as as there is no news on the script, there hasn't really been much news outside of that this last week. It's been kind of a quieter week. Jonathan: Right there. It has. I've seen a few things like Carson Wentz was signed to a one year deal with the Vikings yesterday. They're showing up some quarterbacks in that room because it's JJ McCarthy, Kyler Murray, and now Carson Wentz. So who's going to be the starter? Yeah. We had the trade with Jalen Waddle with the Broncos. We did have that go down. Daniel: Yeah. Three quarterback battle. Yeah. ⁓ yeah, that was like the end of last week, right? Or was that Monday? Jonathan: Yeah, no, it happened right out. Yeah, it happened right after I last recorded. what was it? ⁓ M: Damn broccolis man making spooks. Daniel: Making moves. ⁓ yeah. Welcome back. Jonathan: Welcome back, Martin. They're watching your Raiders make a lot of moves and I think they're scared. Daniel: That's, you know, I got a little bit thrown off because the first thing that I wanted to say was making sure that Martin was here because, you know, I happened to talk a lot of shit on the Raiders in the past, but I wanted him to be here to hear me say his team has been making a lot of awesome moves and congratulations on that. think that they're having possibly the strongest off season of any team in the NFL. It's been awesome to see. M: Jeez, man. Jonathan: Yeah. M: I agree. I agree. And I don't even I've never witnessed anything like this. It's always it's always been like one major star and a bunch of like random old washed up players. Now it's consistent. Everyone's around the 26, 27 years old. And I'm like, this is probably the youngest sport court that we've had in years. Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah, with all that cats? Daniel: Yeah Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: and a good core and a good and it's good moves and it moves because like honestly like like there's I think there's a lot of news we got like like fucking you guys brought in you guys got who I thought in the best free agency ⁓ lineman was the one from lindenbaum yeah you ⁓ Daniel: In a good, yeah. Linderbomb, man. That move is that's like 600 yards to Gentie right there. Right. Just bringing him in because he's going to communicate with the rest of the line on what they need to do and what their blocking schemes are. like these guys that were asked last year, they didn't have any direction. like they're going to be so much better this year just by that addition right there. You know. M: Thank Jonathan: Yep. Yeah. ⁓ M: Easily. Easily. Yeah. Jonathan: 100 % like this. M: I've been one of the best centers out there for the run game. It's gonna be crazy. Last year was a terrible, I mean, on paper, he had the yardage. He was able to get close to 1,000 yards in total. And now with Lindemann on center, I'm excited because like you said, that's 600 yards almost guaranteed to open up the field for the Raiders. I'm excited. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: Absolutely seeing what Gentie could do behind the worst offensive line and all you can only go up from here. So yeah, it's only getting better Daniel: I M: Exactly. Daniel: whether it hit his like average point of contact for the season was negative. It was that it was in the negative, which means that he got hit behind the line more often than not. Right. Like that's that's negating the things that he was like, right. Yeah. Like that's negating the things where somebody touches him five yards down the field. That's fucking brutal. So like and he was still able to put up the numbers that he put up. M: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was like 65 % 70 % of the time he got hit. Yeah And then, yeah. Daniel: his yards after contact are higher than his yards for rushing because of the point that he had a negative contact score. So that's fucking nuts. M: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. M: The fact that they're, yeah, you know, and I love the way they invested on the defense as well, because they've never had a defensive splash in free agency like they did this year too. know, Quay Walker and the Kobe Dean, you now we got, now we finally have linebackers. We never had a linebacker ever. Now we have two solid linebackers. Daniel: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. That's a bitching core. Yeah. That's a great core. you know, Walker's the run stuffer, and he gets the things underneath. And Dean is small, but he's fast as hell. And he can cover well. like, yeah, it's like an addition, right? You counted him out already. So it's like you just signed the best defensive player. Jonathan: Yeah, that's a big one. M: Yeah. And as of now, we still have Max. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. M: It's like, yeah, yeah, it's amazing. I'm like, man, is this real? Like now I'm hoping like now the pressure is really on gonna be on Fernando if he's gonna be able to live up to the hype that they're giving them. It's literally that's like the only piece that we need now is besides a receiver, because I feel like I don't have we don't have a number one. ⁓ We signed ⁓ a nail it from Vikings. Daniel: Yeah Yeah. Mm-hmm. Jalen Naylor, that's right. And he was, you know what? But he's fast, like he's a 4-3 guy, right? So what they're, from what I see for Kubiak is now he's got his Rahish Shahid, right? He's gonna stretch the field and their number one is gonna be Brock Bowers. M: I see him more as a number two. He's fast. Yeah, I mean. Yeah. ⁓ for sure. And ⁓ Thor- Jonathan: Yes. Yes. Daniel: So he's going to be in the slot. He's going to be in tight end, like. M: I got a lot of high hopes too for Thornton Junior, the receiver we got off of Tennessee last year. He's 6'4, 6'5 I'm gonna say. He ran a 4'3 for 4. He could be that number one if Clint is able to grow him the way I thought Pete Carroll was gonna let him develop. But yeah, I'm excited. Definitely excited. Yeah, to there, still there. ⁓ Daniel: Yeah, I mean I Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And back, too, right? He's a big dude too, and he's got the mics of a number one also. Besh. M: Yeah, that's all. Yeah, he reminds me more like a Cooper Cup type of guy. Daniel: Mmm. Jonathan: Yeah, that's a good fit. That's actually a pretty good fit for him. He's he's he's scrappy. He's versatile. He moves around the field. He could be anywhere. M: Mm-hmm. Yeah, he's stocky. He could be like on the slot. ⁓ Yeah, I'm excited. Jonathan: I mean, you should be. You guys have dropped like 200 million in fucking cap space. And the deal falls through with the Ravens. So you have Max Crosby back, but you gotta move things around to be able to keep them. Cause that's 30 million that you were not accounting for to have. So. Daniel: You should, yeah! Dude! M: Yeah. cap space, Daniel: Yeah, yeah. M: Hmm. Exactly. Luckily they were able to be in that position where they had, you know, one of the highest amounts of cap space where if he did come back, they were still able to pay all the guys that they were able to acquire. It's not 50 million and leftover in cap anymore. It's so much closer to 27. But I mean, she. Jonathan: Thanks. Daniel: Yeah, enough to sign the draft class, basically. M: Yeah, exactly. And they were still able to pick up a couple of special teams guys a couple of weeks ago. They picked up the linebacker, forgot his name from the Colts. He blocked our field goal and our punt last time we played him. Forgot his name and I'm spacing out. I to say he was, yeah. Daniel: Because He was the, isn't he like the all pro? Like he was the best special teams player this year. I can't remember his name, but I think I remember seeing that and going, damn, another really smart move. know, like I've, they've made so many good moves this off season and things have broke their way so nicely that I'm excited for the Raiders this year. Like I'm excited for you and for the Raiders. I'm like, nice. M: Yeah. I feel like it's too good to be true, but if we get more than three wins, I'll be happy. Jonathan: Yeah, I think it's really good. Yes, my text making some really good moves. Yeah, that would be something if you guys still only pull four wins. Daniel: hahahaha Yeah, well, rookie quarterback, it makes it a little difficult. But the thing is, like, you know, M: Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna lie to you guys when Mike when Mike Evans was on the run, know, picking a new team and I'm like if he lands on the Raiders I'm gonna be so high that is my favorite player outside of the Raiders ⁓ Jonathan: Well, it's usually like the spot for like either a disgruntled or a retired, like an old aged wide receiver that's really good. use radars to finish their seasons out, man. Daniel: Yeah. M: Yeah Yeah! Daniel: I'm just so happy he didn't go to Baltimore. M: I'm like, but yeah. That Niner's team was gonna be scary though. That Niner's team was looking pretty scary. They made a lot of moves as well. Daniel: I was like, no, don't follow that arc. Yeah. Jonathan: It is, it is. I would have liked to see the Chargers instead. I think that would have been one I think I was a little happier with. think Herbert would have been he needs he needs someone like that. yeah. I know you're not but I think I think that would be your landing spot for that offense too. That would have been a better spot in my opinion so. Daniel: did. M: I'm glad it wasn't. Daniel: Even with Johnson? M: Yeah I feel like it would have. Daniel: Yeah, I think. Jonathan: Yeah. No, you guys are crushing it though. It's, it's a quiet enough season. Daniel: Dude, what's rookie quarterback's best friend besides an offensive line, right? Offensive line, tight end, and a run game. They addressed all of those things. The receivers come later, but the best friends are tight end, running back, offensive line. And then they shirred up their defense. Yeah. Jonathan: Big time in. Big time in. Yeah. M: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: and he doesn't even have to be the best. Yeah, he doesn't even have to be a best quarterback. He could be a fucking fill-in and he'll do just fine. Exactly, exactly. M: Samtartle. Daniel: That's and the freaking coach you brought in, right? Like Derek Carr had two back to back games with like 500 yards passing before he got hurt last season. The season before when he was in New Orleans, right? Like, dude, yeah, nothing but praise. M: Yeah, man, I love that move. What surprised me more about the Raiders is the patience that they've had this year. ⁓ Usually they would just like grab the first coach, know, panic mode. They were able to sit back, they waited until the Super Bowl was over and then Clint announced it the day he's coming to the Raiders. was excited. Kept on seeing every team pick up a coach. Daniel: I use like Mm. All right. M: I'm gonna lie, was kind of nervous. Jonathan: Yeah. M: They me Ben Johnson deja vu from last year. Daniel: Oh man, yeah. I think John's right, like a lot of credit to Spy Tech, man. He's done a great job this offseason. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, graphic. Absolutely. He's made some solid moves because I was thinking about I'm like, what is this? Is it because Brady's in the building? No, it's got to be spy tech spy techs making the better moves. It's not pretty I'm not giving Brady any fucking credit He's out there picking fights with ⁓ Logan Paul right now M: All the credit to Spitech. Yeah. Daniel: No! M: And it literally almost feels like, like spy tech. Yeah. Try to box up NFL. Daniel: I'm loving it. Jonathan: That's all it's all the shit this morning is now now, you know social media is full of ⁓ WWE stars calling out Brady for deflate gate saying, you know, we're not fake but we have to play gate you guys are fake, you know Daniel: That's so funny. M: K-Fab has gone out the window. Daniel: ⁓ man. Alright, we ⁓ showered the raiders with praise, rightfully so, with what they've done. But ⁓ now I go to other side and be like, what the fuck, dolphins? Jonathan: Yeah, massively. No question. ⁓ ⁓ my god. It's like they just want to shift everybody away and they- I laugh, it's awful. Daniel: They're... What was the campaign? Tankin' for Tua, right? They're doing the same shit. They're just tankin' for the number one. M: It's crazy, it's... Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, Tank for Arch, yeah, yeah, they're tanking for Arch. M: Yeah! I remember, hey man, I remember they were taking for two of the florists, Juan and Herbert, when he was the coach there. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Yeah, I saw a really funny one was they, you know, bringing in their quarterback that they just signed and then they shipped off Waddle. It's like, wait a minute. You're like, what did you talk about? like, hey, come on, we're gonna have a good season. You got Waddle, you're gonna really well. Okay, sign this contract and go ahead, trade Waddle away. Hey, wait, what? What do you mean? Yeah, you'd be like. Daniel: Molecule- Yeah. Yeah. M: Hahaha Daniel: Yeah. And now Waddle's gone. What? Yeah. That was hilarious. Poor Malik Willis, man. He's just going to be a target this next year. Jonathan: Yeah, you just... M: The Dolphins made moves like they just got a bunch of like payday loans and just released them and they still have all this dead money coming in. Daniel: Yeah, yeah. Jonathan: Pretty much. The sad thing is I'm not sure they're ready for that quarterback yet because they need to shore up their offensive line before they start bringing in, I think, a quarterback. think it's gonna, when you don't have an offensive line and you bring in a quarterback, you start a situation like a Joey Harrington. He's gonna scramble, he's got no protection. It's a David Carr, you know, ⁓ a decent quarterback in a shitty situation. Daniel: Yeah. ⁓ I wonder. M: They're gonna have the Texans ⁓ Longhorns ⁓ QB room, right? Because now they're have Arch and they have yours. Daniel: yours. Jonathan: ⁓ Yeah, it's funny thing is they're give it to Malik and they're like, you're just sit there, you're good. You're good, you're good. M: Yeah. Jesus. Yeah. Daniel: And I think that they've got like over a hundred million in caps like dead cap space this year, right? It's like 130 million now, something like that. Jonathan: I believe it was in the 90s I think. I do think so. Yeah. M: ⁓ it's easily over a hundred. Daniel: uh let's see 27 and i just i was curious so i'm looking up uh what their how much cap space they have in 2027 all right so yeah they're they're 100 tanking to sign a shit ton of free agents for next year because they've got a hundred estimated 155 to 156 million dollars in cap available next off season so they are putting themselves in a position to tank pick up uh M: Okay. Jonathan: and then you're Daniel: quarterback with a high pick and sign a bunch of free agents. So. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. I mean they're gonna fight against Arizona and One other team. I know there's another team that's totally gonna take for himself. There's a few teams. I think doing this this year Yeah, there you go. I think there's a few teams that are gonna really go for it Yeah I think so. All right. Well M: Jets. Daniel: Might be the Jets. It's crazy. Well, we all know who ⁓ we're number one in the draft is going right. Like where Fernando is going. There's no way the Raiders aren't picking him up at this point. Jonathan: I mean, you don't think they're shopping it? You don't think they're gonna stop it for the better quarterback next M: Amen. I'm not. Okay, the only reason I say I'm scared that they're gonna trade over now. Clint is a system coach. feel like they put in anyone, Aiden O'Connell could probably even be behind center. And they're like, hey man, could beef up this defense. could get a receiver and maybe Arvel Rees or something. Shop it out of the jets if they want it. That's the only reason I'm But I'll stick with Fernandam. Daniel: Yeah. Mmm. M: It's... Daniel: Damn, what? M: But I don't know, wouldn't put it past them. Daniel: You broke up there. Would it? What did you, what do you prefer? M: Okay, me, I prefer Fernando, hands down. Yeah, I prefer Fernando, but I wouldn't put it past him that they're shopping it around, ⁓ thinking like, Clint could probably use Aiden O'Connor to run that system and trade down and maybe get the Jets' first rounders, get a loop for it. ⁓ It's always a possibility, but I'll stick. Daniel: Yeah, you broke up a little bit there. Yeah. Yeah. M: You know, with Fernando, I feel like the move that they're making now is to draft him. now ⁓ behind Linderbaum and putting a solid defense of their. Daniel: I really like the kid. I'm kind of high on Fernando. I'm higher than most I feel like on Fernando. People get, I think people are talking about how bad the draft class is and he's getting pulled down by that. But like, I like a lot of the things that he's done and he's super young. M: You know, I was always high on Fernando since... Mm-hmm. Yeah. And it's not as far. mean, I've... Mm-hmm. Exactly. I told everyone like, yeah, he has time to learn and he's willing to learn. And I don't feel like you have a QB like Fernando that you worry about outside of the game. And but I told a lot of people like for now, you know, they see this is a weak QB class at, know, Reddish away next year. I feel like Fernando's better than any QB next year. I don't think like I don't think Arch is going to be better than Fernando is. I don't think Daniel: Right? Like, he's got time to learn. Yeah. M: ⁓ guy from, ⁓ Oregon. I don't feel like he's going to be in the same level as Fernando. the only one I think maybe might be a surprise is Torres B now that he's a Texas Tech. But I don't, I don't see anyone being, you know, in the caliber that Fernando has. Daniel: Mm-hmm. M: They said his numbers don't reflect what he performed, he's, the way he's able to pick apart a defense is crazy. He doesn't even need to read his progressions because he already knows what the defense is be doing before the snap. Daniel: Yeah, and that's He's all of the untangibles as a quarterback. He's got fast processing. He's got... He's super smart about the way that he attacked the field. He's got off the field things. And apparently he's got that like insane football gene where it's like it's all about the game and improving himself and doing all of that like the greats have, right? M: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Daniel: the obsessive compulsive about football, right? like that's, he's, and he ran a pro offense, right? He ran a pro style offense. It did have a lot more RPOs rolled into it, but like there's, it reflects well on him transitioning well into the NFL. And every single year he improved in his college career. And so it's like, you know, like there's a lot of things that are like, M: Yeah, he's a student of the game. Yeah. He did. He did. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. He did. Daniel: ⁓ OK. Then you put him in a team that's trying to set him up as best as possible. And the coach that he's at, I'm like, this is a nice fit also for the way that Clint Kubiak runs his offense. Mm-hmm. M: Mm-hmm. It exactly just makes perfect sense. Yeah Daniel: So I'm excited for both parties. M: Like, I don't know. I'm excited too. And honestly, there's a lot of people comparing him. know, saying Ty Simpson is, think ⁓ Orlovsky was saying that he's more impressed by Ty Simpson. But I just feel like it's the name of the school that they were in too. If you put Fernando, the way he played in Alabama, everyone would be like raving Fernando even more. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yep. M: But he was in a small school, know, Indiana wasn't known for football. And then for him to win the Heisman as well? ⁓ Daniel: They've never had, what did they say? They hadn't had like a winning record in like 30 years or something like that. M: Yeah, yeah they're a basketball school. Daniel: Mm-hmm. then they yeah, and then they win the Natty nuts Hire a new coach bring in a new quarterback and a few other players with a transfer portal and you win the Natty M: And they're like... Yeah, and then you know the quarterback wins the Heisman. Daniel: Yeah, coming out of Cal too. Jonathan: And then you know the cost of people. M: So I'm excited. Yeah. I watched, I started watching him in Cal after that game he had against Miami when he played against Cam Ward. They were like slinging it. It was a gunfight man. And Fernando showed a lot of moxie. And then that's why when he transferred over, I was like, oh, you should just stay in Cal. I didn't know what they were building in Indiana. Daniel: Bye. Nice. Great. M: It paid off. Daniel: It paid off. Yeah, he's only 22. So like, you know, it's like Darnold. Darnold came out at 21, I think. So he's a little bit older, but man, yeah. So yeah, that's pick one in the draft, right? And it's whoever is getting that pick, if anybody gets that pick, which we both agree Raiders should stay and pick, then. M: It's crazy. Mm-hmm. for sure. Jonathan: Oh, I think so. But I think there is a chance that they may trade out. think they're shopping right now. Yeah, I think they're shopping. Sorry, I had to run away. I had to pay the garage door guy. Awesome. Yeah, no, I think it'll be interesting. I'm very excited to see how this draft rolls out. So because you usually go pick one is pick one and then you kind of go, oh, we kind of know pick two pick three. I don't know pick one yet because I don't know if it's a for sure thing. Just saying. M: Yeah. Daniel: That's what Martin was saying. Yeah. No worries. Now you- Hmm. M: I want to say it's like 90 % but there's still that 10 % Jonathan: I think if he was a little better you'd- I think it's close, I think it's high. I put like 85, I give it a 15 % chance, a little higher than you, than they could. Because I'm seeing, I don't know, Spy Tech's seeing how other teams do things. They're like, maybe we move back a couple picks and then get somebody else you want and deal with quarterback next year. M: Okay. That's what I'll say, maybe they beef up the defense a little more and get, or Val Rees, or what's that, safety. It's not Sonny Styles, is it Sonny Styles? ⁓ Caleb Dels. ⁓ Or linebacker, yeah. Jonathan: Hmm? Daniel: Downs, Caleb Downs. Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: Sunny Styles is a linebacker, yeah. Jonathan: Best linebacker I have ever I hope he drops to us. I really like him. Daniel: ⁓ The fact that that Reese and Styles that played linebacker on the same college team and they both could go in the top five and will go in the top ten is nuts That is absolutely nuts Jonathan: ⁓ yeah. M: It's crazy. Jonathan: Yeah, you've been seeing files' value shoot up, so. Daniel: Yeah, I like I like styles better than Reese. M: I feel like there's a lot of teams with multiple solid. Yeah, I do too. It feels like there's a lot of schools with multiple solid like players like Miami with their front line on their defense. You can pick any one of those guys and you'll be like, all right, I'm good. Jonathan: Yes. Yeah. Daniel: He doesn't have that much, ⁓ Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Damn. Go find those position coaches. Right, you know. M: Yeah. Jonathan: Right? Yeah, they're the ones you want. You're not not wrong at all. M: John, going back to what you were saying, I don't even know who the first three, four, five picks are gonna be. I don't know, like. Jonathan: That's what I did. In most drafts we already know at this point we kind of go, okay, there's a hard set. Well, you know, but there's no way I don't know because I can see them move off of Mendoza and go elsewhere and the does is going to drop a pick or two so. M: Yeah, dude. But say the Raiders do stick with Mendoza. I don't know who the Chats are gonna grab. Are they gonna go defense? Yeah. Who's three, the Cardinals? Yeah. The Cardinals need a QB now. Are they gonna try to call the Raiders, hey, you know what? Or next year, trade down? I don't know what they're, you know. Daniel: Mm-mm. Jonathan: I don't know who 2 is. Mm-hmm. Because you don't know what they're taking situation? Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ you know they're going for- I see the Cardinals tanking to go get that next year pick. I see them as one of the tanking teams right next to Miami. That was the one I really felt is, maybe the Jets don't, but I really feel Arizona, they, I mean, fuck, they just shipped out everything, right? They're like, yeah, whatever. We're good, we'll, I don't know. M: Yeah. That's crazy. mean, releasing, you know, they're taking when they, you know, release Kyler, but eat all of his deal, you know, his money and they're like, we're done. Jonathan: I don't see it. Yeah, dude, that's the thing. How many things are swallowed? Daniel: I mean last year Jacoby Bressette played better than Kyler did too. Like I mean Why are you gonna pay that guy a hundred million dollars when this backup that's making? 15 is playing better than him Jonathan: Yeah? M: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Okay, who wants to say that Tyler Murray's contract has a fucking Call of Duty stipulation of no playing video games during season or some shit like that? ⁓ I don't M: Yeah. I would, or maybe he was playing Call of Duty because he was bored at playing in Arizona. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Yep, maybe he goes somewhere else. Jonathan: Maybe, maybe, but I don't know. got Margaret Harrison Jr. You're bored? Come on. I think he was bored. ⁓ M: I mean, like, you know what? Like, you know, it is, I hope Marvin Harrison Jr., know, know, play, you know, is, yeah. And I feel like he, you know, he's able to play the same way his dad did. But man, Kyler Murray and Justin Jefferson is gonna be crazy. I feel like. Jonathan: Staffs back. Daniel: He- Jonathan: Yes. Daniel: Justin Jefferson's gonna have a shit season. He does not throw outside the numbers and down the field. Marvin Harrison Jr. was so much better when Jacoby Brissette came in because he was actually getting thrown the damn ball. Jonathan: Yep, this is this is where everyone has said. M: No, man. Jonathan: Nope. Nope. M: I feel like you can eat, man. Jonathan: 100 % see they have claimed that Justin Jefferson is unbreakable and he could play with any quarterback. You are about to witness him broken man. He's not going to make the top 10. Kyler Murray is a fucking shit quarterback. M: I don't know, I feel like... Well, well then everyone. It could be a blessing and a curse because then he might be able to you wanna Yeah Daniel: throwing outside. Jonathan: Look, he has talent, he has talent, but he needs the right coaches. And yeah, Minnesota's got the quarterback whispers there, but I don't know if they fix him. I don't see they fix him, honestly. M: I hope Batman, if they do. Jonathan: He would be something because he's had the quarterback one, he's had that potential to be number one before. He's been number one, right? But like, it's been a very long time since that. M: I could be crazy. And if he does it, I hope Justin recor- you know, pre-casts trade and comes to the Raiders. Daniel: If he fixes those issues that he's got, he's automatically one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Like top three, four. Easily. Jonathan: Well. M: Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ absolutely. 100 % but he's not. And like I said, I think he's lazy. There's something going on there because he's not connecting with people that he should be connecting with. And when people like Percet come in behind you and make you look bad. Something's going on. You know, whether you were lazy, not liking coaching your butt heads with your coordinator, whatever the fucking case. Yeah. Daniel: like M: Yeah, I feel like that happens a lot. Daniel: What? Every single quarterback has done worse after they've signed that massive contract. Like the $50 million a year contract, every quarterback that has signed that contract has gotten worse, including Mahomes, right? It started with Watson, disaster, you know? like, the only one that, ⁓ well, still, Josh Allen, Jonathan: Mm-hmm. M: Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah. Even my home? Yup. Sadly, I think you still did really well. Yeah. M: That's why Tom always took those team friendly. Daniel: didn't get $50 million a year. took a pay cut because he wanted to stay in Buffalo and he said he took 40 instead because that's a receiver. Jonathan: I hope Alan works his out that is a talented kid, but he's got to work something out because by the time he gets the December He's pulling on Lamar Jackson him and Lamar Jackson or they're like a pair duo, man They're like the new Tony Romo. That's what it is. God the new Tony Romo. Holy fuck when December they played really well Daniel: I don't know if it's him as much. M: If I was Josh, would've wanted to get traded, Daniel: Ugh. Well... M: The worst thing Josh Allen did was sign that contract. Yeah, the worst thing Josh Allen did was we signed with the Bills man. I don't trust being at all, man. I don't trust that dude at all to build a team. At all. You throw. Daniel: with the bills instead of leave. I... Agree. I think that they fired the guy that was doing what needed to happen for the team, which is McDermott. M: Yeah. Yeah, McDormand. Jonathan: Yes, yes. I don't know why they let McDermott Daniel: But, this- M: Why before- Why when you're getting ready to go into the draft, you go in and throw a player that you drafted a few years ago under the bus? What is that? Like, I'm not going to want to come here because if I had to perform or I have a bad year, the GM's going to be like, well, you know, that's not the guy we wanted. ⁓ It was this dude. He's like, he did it. Like, come on, man. Like, I don't trust. And then. Daniel: Under the bus. Mm-hmm. That's going to be me. Jonathan: It was this guy's fault. I didn't want him. They wanted him. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. M: know, ownership was like, you're the problem, we're fire you. No, we're gonna make you president of the bills organization. Like, what? Like, what? They must not have an HR department there. Jonathan: Yep. That's somebody that behind the scenes can really sweet talk you and he becomes friends with the owner, you know? M: Yeah. Yeah, man. Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: I feel like Alan has been performing well in the playoffs and stuff, but his team lets him down. And so I don't know if that's a fatigue thing or what, but like... Jonathan: around him. They're not making the career. Oh, you see it in his face by the end. He's just he's upset because things aren't going his way. Well, yeah, who isn't upset at that point. like, you could see that the like, you're right, Daniel. No, there's no really big name, great people around them. Come on. M: I mean, yes, no. Daniel: ⁓ Who? Yeah! Yeah. Yeah! M: Yeah, he has no supporting cast, you know. Daniel: I see. There's not enough players on that offense to step up in the postseason and beat these best teams when they are having players step up in the postseason like they're supposed to, right? Right now you've got Cook and Allen and Dawkins. That's not enough. Jonathan: Any questions? M: Yeah. Amen. Daniel: to win these playoff games. And they are almost winning these playoff games. You need at least three offensive weapons that can get the ball in their hands to win playoff games. M: Nah. Jonathan: Yeah. and I put my foot in my mouth last year to be a cook with and have a good year. True, what a move Bradley Chubb, yeah. I see that as just a... M: Hey, but they Bradley Chubb. Daniel: Yeah, two years removed from his injury. That's a little threatening for Cook, but. M: What a move! ⁓ we're gonna go. He's like, ⁓ we're gonna move on from Joey Bosa, so we're gonna add Bradley Chubb. Jonathan: Yeah. M: You saved dude. Daniel: Hahaha Jonathan: I don't know, I don't know. That's all. M: Hey man, if the Vikings don't find success, Justin Jefferson should request a train to see if he goes to the bills. That'd be scary. Jonathan: Hey, that would be scary. Yeah, I would. My goodness or any team or any wide receiver like that that goes like to the Chiefs. Woof. Woof. Yeah, I know that's something you never want to say. Daniel: Thank M: Yeah. Yeah, bills cheaps. Jonathan: You're right though, he needs to go somewhere else, I think. M: I would say the Ravens, but I don't feel, yeah. Yeah. I feel like. Jonathan: No, chargers. Come on. Oh, you don't want to say it's your division, but Herbert needs a number one. Herbert needs a one, dude. I have such praise for that kid and each year there's someone that's talented that just isn't getting the people around him there. That's just seems M: I didn't want to say it. I didn't want to say it. Yeah. Daniel: If that offensive line can stay healthy, M: It's crazy, mean, and that's the yeah, it's similar to the thing like with the Bills, like they're not doing anything to, you know, help out Herbert. I mean, they haven't added a number one to the Chargers. I don't think they have depth in the O-line. They lost their guys, you know, they lost Slater and all on the regular season and geez, man, Justin Herbert was over there dodging bullets like he's in the war or something. Jonathan: Yeah. No. ⁓ yeah, and half of it went down because of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Daniel: Yeah. M: Yeah. Daniel: Their one move was they signed the best blocking tight end who's known as the best blocking tight end in the NFL to like a decent contract. That's the only thing that they did this offseason so far of note. so, ⁓ well, besides, you know, sign McDaniels, which is probably their best move of the offseason by far, but yeah, yeah. I mean. M: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but they don't have that number one receiver. ⁓ Keelan Allen is old. I mean, they could probably use him again for a one year deal, try to see if he could work with McDaniel's offense, but he needs someone that can stretch that field. And I hate the charges, but I feel like no one, like rumor mill is no one really wants to play with hardball. Daniel: He doesn't have a field stretcher. Jonathan: Crazy. was, that was a coach I was excited to see go to there thinking, man, things are going to change. Things are going to happen. And I haven't seen anything happen yet. I know it takes more than a year. M: like the calm, who was... Daniel: Mm. M: See ya. Well, I'm not surprised because I remember how the relationship between the Niners and Harbaugh ended. He lost that locker room the last two years he was there. There's something about his coaching style that players don't really like. don't think, know, he's more. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, god, I don't know how much I wanna get, but I know that had something to do with... Yeah. Daniel: Well, mean, you know, those. M: think he's better at the collegiate level where he's like a teacher, coach. At this level, these players don't want to listen to you. He's a jolly good fellow. Get this shit out of my face, Yeah. Daniel: Those. Yeah. Jonathan: They have to trust in you. They have to believe in you to want to let you be coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And maybe they don't. Yeah, that's actually a really good point. M: Yeah. Daniel: Well, they got, he got like a D on the, players union vote for coaching. I was surprised to see that. M: Yeah, exactly! Jonathan: I like those report cards. I still like seeing those report cards. I know that they don't like putting those out, but I like seeing those. I think it's a good thing for us fans to see. ⁓ yeah. Daniel: think it's great. It's going to nothing but improve these organizations because they're getting called out publicly. Yeah. So they're like, OK, NFL, you said we can't publicize these. ⁓ we're just going to tweet it instead. ⁓ Jonathan: Keeps them on their toes. Yeah, keeps them on their toes. M: Unless you're... Unless you're the Cardinals that haven't been able to get higher than an F in three years. Daniel: Yeah, I mean, that's as ownership fans are going to start to call it for you to sell that team or do something about it, you know? So that's the big thing. People will move, start moving away from your team because they actually, you know, care about how you're treating your employees and stuff like that. So. Jonathan: Bye. M: You Hmm. Jonathan: you Absolutely. M: Yeah, man. Daniel: Yep. Jonathan: Absolutely. All right. So we've been just back and forth on some random topics here. I like it. like it. ⁓ Do we I mean, I wrote down a couple of news bits, but like, do you want to continue? We've talked some of the landing spots of people. Daniel: I do have to wrap up here soon. Jonathan: Yeah, we're almost. ⁓ Daniel: Yeah. But I think this has been just like a good offseason conversation banter with the teams that have been making moves. I'm super looking forward to the draft. Jonathan: ⁓ there's been some really good teams making moves. I'm loving it all. And there's teams you question like, hey, you can see the ones that are taking because they're not doing a damn thing. And they're shipping people out to prepare for next year. Daniel: You know. I mean, the waddle move was a really good move. M: That was, it was a what, first or third and a future pig or something like that? Jonathan: That was huge for their ⁓ Dolphins. I think they won that one for sure. Yeah. It was not worth that. Not worth that. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah, I think that was a great move for the Dolphins because now they've got two firsts this year. So if there's another team that wants to come up, maybe they can trade a future first for them to come up or something like that. And so they've now got A, enough to start getting a young core in place for their quarterback for next year or B, maybe a team's willing to put up their next year's first. for a player this year, you know? Jonathan: or high likelihood percentage chance Manning goes to Miami. Daniel: Dude, could you imagine if they trade both of their first round picks for one first round pick next year so that they have two in next year's draft? Jonathan: Not a bad option. M: Try to secure that. Yeah. Daniel: And then they just trade out of the first round this year. And they're just like, nope, we're making sure that we have the resources available to next year to make a move if we want to. That might not be a bad idea for them given what they've done to their team this off season. Jonathan: You Yeah, because they're not going to win anything this year. M: Now do you think the man he casts How do you think the Manning Caps would like Arch to play in Miami? Or will they pull a Eli and be like, Daniel: Hahaha! Jonathan: I have heard that mentioned a few times and thanks for listening to. M: mean, what realistic teams. Daniel: I'm not sure Manning's gonna have, I'm not sure Arch is gonna have that kind of leverage with the class that he's coming out in. M: I don't think so. Exactly. Jonathan: No, there's a lot of really good quarterbacks out there where there wasn't when Eli was. Yeah. Daniel: Eli, Arch might eventually be the best quarterback in his class, but I think that he's got to get there. Well, there's going to be, they're like, unless if he takes a really big jump this off season, he wasn't bad, right? He was still one of the top college quarterbacks this year, statistically especially, but he's not been this thing that everybody wants him to be. M: It's a lot, yeah. Mm-hmm. Daniel: And so if he takes a step forward next year, there are other quarterbacks that are going into next year's draft that are just better. But he's also super young and he might get there. So I think he's the highest ceiling, but yeah, he might be like the third prospect or something like that next year's draft. M: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: How well do quarterbacks come out of Coach Sarkeesian? That's what I gotta know. Daniel: Mmm. Has there been a Gemini? Not an advertisement. ⁓ Ask the question. Jonathan: Copy. M: Chevron. Yeah, man, but I mean, it's probably gonna be the same team, know, right now that are three, four, five, two, three, four, five drafting the quarterback again next year. ⁓ So it's either he's gonna go to the Jets, he's gonna go to the Cardinals, or he's gonna go to Miami. Daniel: Mm. Jonathan: Yeah. be interesting to see. Yeah, it should be interesting. All right. Well, thanks for joining us. This was a fun, fun chat today. We love talking football. It's just something we love to do. Tune in in a couple of weeks. We'll have more news, more, more banter, more fun stuff. Oh my God. Drafts right around the corner. Yeah, we're a month. Daniel: Yeah, getting closer to the draft. Well, that's right around the corner. M: Sir. excited. Jonathan: We're a month away. It's like five weeks, five weeks to the draft. So start camp down, start watching draft day. You gotta watch it just to get in the mood. Daniel: Yeah, that's right. I was on the sleeper app the other day and it's like, we're like in the 30s. We're almost a month away from our draft for our dynasty. M: Mm-hmm. ⁓ huh. Jonathan: Disney drafts. Yeah, Dice draft around the corner. What? 10 rounds filling up the ⁓ Axie squad. Yeah, I like it. I love it. This is a great year. ⁓ It's exciting. We need to hammer down that time because I want to make sure it's good for your brother. I know. You know what mean? Daniel: taxi spot. M: See ya. Daniel: I think for that one it's a 24 hour per pick. But for the other ones, for gods, we need to pick a day and a time, absolutely. Jonathan: Well, yeah, but time for the other. We need a date. Yeah, I was going to say we didn't pick a day and I wanted to throw the I think it was like the 23rd or something. It's a Sunday in August. Keep it at the Sundays for Allen. So Allen could be there. Yeah. Anyway, tune in in the next couple of weeks. We'll get more football talk. Maybe Martin and we can get Ali back on. Ali wanted to come, so we'll get Ali on. Thanks for marching and as always. Daniel: It makes sense. Sweetness. M: I'm in. Jonathan: to, I don't know, conquer. I gotta finish that. 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