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Huddle Up Podcast: Wednesday, April 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,
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Speaker 1: and John Osher. The Huddle Up Podcast starts right now.
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Speaker 1: Welcome in to another edition of the Huddle Up Podcast.
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Speaker 1: Today is Wednesday, April. Then plenty to get to, including
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Speaker 1: news about the Jaguars, possible future quarterback, Jack's defensive talk,
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Speaker 1: Joe Cullen interviewed by John Oser. This week Maurice Jones
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Speaker 1: Drew mock draft. Will we mock his mock We'll find out.
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Speaker 1: Eddie George, you know everybody knows that name, well, getting
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Speaker 1: into coaching a former Jaguars rival. We'll talk a little
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Speaker 1: of the HBCU talk and social media questions, all that
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Speaker 1: coming up. Bucky Brooks, John Oser, J P. Shadrick. I'll
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Speaker 1: start with us today, Bucky, would you pay three hundred
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Speaker 1: dollars for a toaster? What kind? It's one of the
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Speaker 1: apparently the best toaster of all time that has flat
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Speaker 1: screen technology and music and it does everything except butter
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Speaker 1: the bread for you. Oh and if it buttered the
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Speaker 1: bread for me, then I would be okay with it.
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Speaker 1: But if it's not going to butter the bread, that's
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Speaker 1: the only point. Because I was thinking, like maybe I
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Speaker 1: wake up and have like a little cinnamon raising bread
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Speaker 1: with a little butter on it, toasted a little bit,
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Speaker 1: you know, little little snacky, little snaky wacky to start.
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Speaker 1: But if it's not gonna if I'm not gonna butter bread,
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I might as well just sticking
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Speaker 1: in the oven like I did since I was seven.
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Speaker 1: I'm so cheap JP that uh, I can't imagine Sara
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Speaker 1: unless I'm driving it. I'm not paying three bucks for
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Speaker 1: a toaster, all right. And that's why that's why Trevor
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Speaker 1: and his fiance put it on the registry anyway, because
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Speaker 1: somebody else by the expensive stuff. That's great. I bet
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Speaker 1: you that registry they have was magnificit, right, that's the story.
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Speaker 1: This week. The Jaguars fans pulled their money together and
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Speaker 1: got the toaster for Trevor and a vacuum cleaner and
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Speaker 1: the and the rest will go to Trevor Lawrence's charity
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Speaker 1: of choice. So a lot going on this week on
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Speaker 1: Jack's Twitter, Bucky, let's go. So the jacks Man's chipped
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Speaker 1: in and got the toaster and a vacuum. Yes, I
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Speaker 1: wonder what kind of vacuum that was. It's not a
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Speaker 1: bad one thing sucks up everything. I mean kidding aside, JP,
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Speaker 1: We've we've talked about on a couple of the shows
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Speaker 1: this week. It's a really funny, fun story, but I
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Speaker 1: think there's something relatively important about it too, in the
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Speaker 1: sense that I think it does show Trevor, if he
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Speaker 1: didn't know already a what a cool niche this fan
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Speaker 1: base is and has because it's it's a Jaguars people
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Speaker 1: and Twitter people and JP. You and I have gotten
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Speaker 1: to know a lot of these guys over the years,
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Speaker 1: and the passion they have for this team is phenomenal obviously,
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Speaker 1: and I but I don't necessarily know that Trevor, even
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Speaker 1: though he knew he was coming to do GO, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure he had some sort of grasp of duval, but
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Speaker 1: I think this sort of probably wakes him up to Hey,
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Speaker 1: this is a different deal. Now, this has potential to
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Speaker 1: be fun. There's a connection. Remember how fun it was
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Speaker 1: with Blake for a while before it all kind of
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Speaker 1: went south. If the right guy is in that role
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Speaker 1: and embraces it, how much fun is this going to be? JP? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: no doubt it can. It can definitely be one of
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Speaker 1: those places to remember and if things are going well.
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Speaker 1: Right when when things go well and things positive, yes, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: it can go great. But it can turn quickly too.
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Speaker 1: That's the other part of this thing. I mean, it
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Speaker 1: can turn quickly because it's it's been the other way
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Speaker 1: for so long. I mean, I'll go back like the
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Speaker 1: nineties heyday, like when when we started winning and those
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Speaker 1: things like, I mean, it was a big party. And
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Speaker 1: even if you bring it full circle back to with
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Speaker 1: Jalen and that that crew Saxonville, it looked like it
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Speaker 1: was festive and fun like that. It's how you wanted
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Speaker 1: to be. And with a quarterback like Trevor coming in,
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Speaker 1: I think the great thing about Trevor is, to me,
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Speaker 1: he appears to have the right demeanor in this position
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Speaker 1: to handle being the franchise quarterback. Like I think he
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Speaker 1: understands it. He's always had the way of the world
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Speaker 1: on his shoulders. As a guy who's been held as
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Speaker 1: the number one quarterback since he was i mean a
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Speaker 1: mid teenager, I think there's something different about it. The
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Speaker 1: fact that he just married his longtime girlfriend. He's married,
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Speaker 1: he's settled, he's mature by all accounts. I think he's
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Speaker 1: the right guy for it. I think I think it
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Speaker 1: would be a really good fit with him and the
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Speaker 1: team in the city and all those other things. Something
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Speaker 1: has to happen at some point where we figure out
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Speaker 1: that the kids not perfect. I mean, no far, I've
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Speaker 1: had nothing. I'm not saying it's a negative. It's unbelievable
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Speaker 1: how picture perfect this guy is, but I mean he
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Speaker 1: is he is a good I mean he's a good
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Speaker 1: He's a good kid, like um and talking to his
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Speaker 1: parents and all the other stuff. He like, look, he
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Speaker 1: he just always has kind of been on the line.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there won't be anything that comes
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Speaker 1: up or you'll hand every situ ration correctly, but his maturity,
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Speaker 1: I mean that that might be his best trade. Like
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Speaker 1: how mature he is in handling all of the other
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Speaker 1: stuff and not really being caught up in the life.
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Speaker 1: And I think, I mean, you know it. You in
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis around Peyton, and he talked about how he always
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Speaker 1: aspired to be like Peyton Manning man some some some
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Speaker 1: guys get it, you know, And I think he got
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Speaker 1: it at a very early age. And I think if
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Speaker 1: you go back, just from a philosophical standpoint, when it
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Speaker 1: comes to franchise quarterbacks, we used to always think about,
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Speaker 1: is the presidential like Kenny carry himself like that? Like Kenny?
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Speaker 1: Can you see him in front of in front of
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Speaker 1: the mic with the regalness about him? And I think
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Speaker 1: with Trevor, the way that he handles it, the way
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Speaker 1: that he's well schooled, the way that he kind of
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Speaker 1: has it like he he has that, and I can't
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Speaker 1: confidently say that every other quarterback that would have been
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Speaker 1: in that position with would appear to check off those boxes.
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Speaker 1: We continue our conversation here on the Huddle Up Podcast.
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence apparently is in the Jaguars playbook, into reports
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Speaker 1: this week on NFL Network getting an early look at
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Speaker 1: the Jaguar scheme. It's something we talked about a few
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Speaker 1: weeks ago. You give pieces of the playbook to some
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Speaker 1: of these prospects to see how they can split it back.
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Speaker 1: But the reports that we saw, you know, it sounds
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Speaker 1: like a little more than that. Bucky from the reports
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Speaker 1: from Ian Rampaport, Well, that's the beauty of having the
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Speaker 1: number one pick and knowing exactly who it is. It's
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Speaker 1: very similar to what the Cincinnati Bengals did a year
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Speaker 1: ago with Joe Burrow. He had all the stuff, he
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Speaker 1: was ready to go. There was no quarterback competition coming
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Speaker 1: into camp. Uh. They basically build it around what he
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Speaker 1: could do, and I would anticipate the Jaguars will will
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Speaker 1: do the same. This will be a bit of a
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Speaker 1: cooperation to kind of figure out where Trevor is. Coach Bebble,
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Speaker 1: coach Shadheimer, coach Meyer will get together and they will
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Speaker 1: try and put together an offense that works for him.
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Speaker 1: I still would say when I look at the strength
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Speaker 1: of the team as prevently presently constructed offensive line, running game,
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Speaker 1: Trevor acting as manager until he's ready to do more.
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Speaker 1: I think if we asked coach My the perfect scenario,
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Speaker 1: I think that would be the perfect scenario that Trevor
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Speaker 1: doesn't have to in the first eight games of the
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Speaker 1: year throw a thirty five to forty times for the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars to stand games if they could control it with
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Speaker 1: their old line, the running game, play good enough defense.
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Speaker 1: I would say that he would probably believe that that
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Speaker 1: is the best formula for Trevor, and I think that
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Speaker 1: is probably the best progression for Trevor to man speedback
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Speaker 1: at or thirty three j get him some impact. So stuff, Oh,
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Speaker 1: So you're saying, go all in on the offense, build
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Speaker 1: up one side of the ball. Forty Burgers for Burgers team.
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Speaker 1: That's what we're saying, go for it by defense. Draft
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Speaker 1: offense makes some sense trying to build this thing. If
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Speaker 1: you wanted, you want, you want to get great on
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Speaker 1: one side of the ball, you can't. You can't go
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Speaker 1: both ways or whatever like, you want to get eight
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Speaker 1: on one side. So if you're gonna say Trevor and
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Speaker 1: then hey, let's load up the offense. Let's make sure
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Speaker 1: he has what he needs, we need to tie in
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Speaker 1: at some point you need someone that can control the
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Speaker 1: middle of the field. I wouldn't say that Tylerford is
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Speaker 1: the guy. You need a young, dynamic tied in that
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Speaker 1: can make it happen. I would say another receiver, and yes,
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Speaker 1: you absolutely could take another back. Carlos hayes arrival wouldn't
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Speaker 1: prohiit me from that. In fact, I would say James
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Speaker 1: Robinson's presence wouldn't prevent me from taking another back. This
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Speaker 1: is a class where the third round you can get
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Speaker 1: a very talented back and that back could be as
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Speaker 1: effective is what is currently on the roster. I think
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Speaker 1: you have to keep spinning the wheels and adding talent
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Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about the new offense. What's it
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Speaker 1: gonna look like? It would help a young quarterback at
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Speaker 1: a new coaching staff to be able to go through
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Speaker 1: some of these things on the practice field of the
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Speaker 1: off season. But the NFL Players Association put out statements
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Speaker 1: on behalf of the Denver Broncos and the Seattle Seahawks,
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Speaker 1: at least as of the taping of this podcast, saying
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Speaker 1: that basically both teams are going to stay away from
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Speaker 1: the off season program. You know that's not ideal and
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Speaker 1: now not every team has done this. Yet what's you're
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Speaker 1: feeling on this the bucky will this? Will this end
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Speaker 1: up being every team, every player or is it kind
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Speaker 1: of depending on the situation. Ah Man, it's a tough
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Speaker 1: one because one of those things that was I can't
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Speaker 1: say it was completely unexpected because J. C. Treader had
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Speaker 1: put out a letter and talked about last year's off season,
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Speaker 1: the virtual off season, Fewer injuries, actually better tackling, UH
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Speaker 1: points were up, all of these things, and so you
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Speaker 1: knew at that point the NFL p A was plotting
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Speaker 1: a course where they didn't want to engage in the
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Speaker 1: off season of old. And also I think there was
10:29
Speaker 1: a door cracked open when you had the additional game,
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Speaker 1: and that comes in. Then you have to begin to
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Speaker 1: renegotiate what the off season program and all those things
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Speaker 1: look like. And players, veterman players in particular, have grown
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Speaker 1: weary of coming to facility and having these camps and
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Speaker 1: practices on grass, and so they're kind of like, why
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Speaker 1: are we doing this? What? What is this about? The
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Speaker 1: injury risk that is associated with those things certainly are valid.
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Speaker 1: The players who get caught up in this are the
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Speaker 1: undrafted free agents and the the guys at the bottom
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Speaker 1: of the roster clinging on because now you don't get
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Speaker 1: a chance to make a first impression for your coaches.
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Speaker 1: You don't get a chance to develop mastering the techniques
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Speaker 1: that the team requires in the scheme and those things.
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Speaker 1: And so now you're going to be evaluated in a
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Speaker 1: six week period in training camp, in preseason. That's a
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Speaker 1: tough deal. You know, I don't like John. We were
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Speaker 1: talking about this the other day. I mean, it's not
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Speaker 1: even just the undrafted guys trying to make the roster.
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Speaker 1: It's a guy John, like Kayla bon Chason, who needs techniques.
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Speaker 1: He needs to go out and practice. Look, I'm fine
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Speaker 1: with the whole voluntary You know, JP has read my
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Speaker 1: stuff for years. He's heard me say it a million times.
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Speaker 1: I hate the offseason program. I'm not a big fan
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Speaker 1: standing on the field during O T A S. I
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Speaker 1: don't think veteran teams get very much out of it.
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Speaker 1: I get all that. And if JP has heard me
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Speaker 1: complain about O T A S wance, he's heard a
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Speaker 1: million times. But big butt here. If you're going to
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Speaker 1: ask coaches to get guys better, then you better give
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Speaker 1: him some time to work with those guys don't do
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Speaker 1: this and then have players behind their back blame and
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Speaker 1: coaching for stuff they don't get enough time during training camp.
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Speaker 1: You get two and a half weeks with guys on
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Speaker 1: training camp, and then all of a sudden, season starts
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Speaker 1: and you're on the field and as Buckey knows, you're
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Speaker 1: not working on past rushing one on one technique on
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Speaker 1: October seven, you're doing that in training camp. Two and
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Speaker 1: a half weeks. That's all the time you get with
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Speaker 1: the guy. Well, don't draft any more developmental players if
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Speaker 1: you're doing this. Tell all the guys who are in
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Speaker 1: college who need developmental time. Their careers are done. Baby,
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Speaker 1: it's over. And you know it just annoys me. It's
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Speaker 1: already volunteery. The veterans don't have to come, but guys
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Speaker 1: who need it, and young coaches or not not young coaches,
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Speaker 1: first year coaches, they should be allowed to have stuff
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Speaker 1: in the off season develop the camarader Yeah, I think,
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Speaker 1: and I can't remember exact what the acclamation period was like,
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Speaker 1: but players were in favor of a return to the
13:05
Speaker 1: acclamation period that happened right before training camp, where it
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Speaker 1: was a slow ramp up to training camp and padded
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Speaker 1: practices because yeah, it felt like guys were better prepared
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Speaker 1: to initiate the contact because under the old way, the
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Speaker 1: old offseason program, you do all those things. People would
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Speaker 1: leave the middle of June, come back, you lie, you
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Speaker 1: check in, and two days later you're on the grass
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Speaker 1: and it's this Just if you've been there the entire time,
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Speaker 1: I believe you still can develop them. Maybe they do
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Speaker 1: away with the team part of O t a S
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Speaker 1: and allow guys to have individual time and individual skill
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Speaker 1: development work or those things. Maybe kind of like the
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Speaker 1: NBA does with their skill development players. There has to
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Speaker 1: be a middle ground for players and coaches to get
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Speaker 1: what they need. But I knew it be can it
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Speaker 1: would be contentious, And we're seeing how teams are already
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Speaker 1: or players are beginning to opped out of these offseason workouts.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure the quality of play was better last year, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not getting there must be data. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the statements, Yeah, exactly see what it was. I didn't
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Speaker 1: think it was better early in the season. But they're
14:20
Speaker 1: talking about the points being up and those things. Because
14:23
Speaker 1: everything is always judged on the entertainment value, which is offense.
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Speaker 1: So the offense may start ahead of the defense, particularly
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Speaker 1: the rules and all the other stuff. Uh, it takes
14:33
Speaker 1: a while for the guys to catch up. You know,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, like it's someone who. I mean, anytime
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Speaker 1: you put any football on TV, I'm gonna look at it.
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Speaker 1: So the fact that we had mini camp and training
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Speaker 1: camp madness and you guys go all over and I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at training camp practices, intersquire practices, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of dig it. But I also
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Speaker 1: understand why people don't want, I want to do too
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Speaker 1: much to text their bodies. This is the Huddle Up
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Speaker 1: a comment. I have a have a have a question
15:38
Speaker 1: about the bank because I haven't had an opportunity to
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Speaker 1: go to the bank since COVID and all those other things.
15:43
Speaker 1: Is there. There's a pool in the bank right there
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Speaker 1: are two spot cabaners, two spot cabanas, John, Yes, the
15:51
Speaker 1: two spot spot cabanas, like behind the end zones or
15:55
Speaker 1: we're one end zone up above. They took out some
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Speaker 1: seats some years ago and put in a north end
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Speaker 1: zone deck. And on that deck there's a double deck
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Speaker 1: rows of cabana kind of couch seating, and some of
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Speaker 1: those are connected to the water features. Yes, correct, so
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Speaker 1: two different uh swimming locations. JP has a cot there,
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Speaker 1: Bucky is why he knows about it, you know, I
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Speaker 1: was just wondering. I feel like I would I would
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Speaker 1: like to have like a watch party from from the
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Speaker 1: waterworks in the cabana. Like I feel like, I feel
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Speaker 1: like that would be a good But I don't know.
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Speaker 1: We all have to work on game day. But I
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Speaker 1: feel like like Jp, I feel like, I mean, we
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Speaker 1: talked about toasters. I feel like since we already d
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Speaker 1: a three llar toast, we might as well, we might
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Speaker 1: as well enjoy ourselves. We will take your money called
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Speaker 1: four six three three two thousands and taking over the phone.
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Speaker 1: I feel like, I feel like maybe with the employee discount,
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Speaker 1: like maybe we could get a couple of dollars nugs
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Speaker 1: you know they're not you get a coup of dollars
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Speaker 1: knocked off and maybe up some table side walk where
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Speaker 1: we're watching the game, you know, on the big boards, right,
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Speaker 1: watch the game, the whole thing, I mean, Trevor and
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Speaker 1: all that. So okay, all right, we'll hold off and
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Speaker 1: we'll keep that idea of flowing. Though. Are you guys
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Speaker 1: ready to mock a mock? Yes, no, John's always ready,
17:35
Speaker 1: Maurice jo I'm mocking it. Well, we are about to
17:39
Speaker 1: mention Maurice Joe's Drew put out his latest mock draft
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Speaker 1: earlier this week. Number one, he picked Trevor Lawrence. He
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Speaker 1: really went out on a limb on that one. Number
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Speaker 1: twenty five though, he goes with safety Javon Holland out
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Speaker 1: of Oregon. And here's this quote, he says, quote, having
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Speaker 1: coached Holland at KATI Prep, know just how valuable he
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Speaker 1: can be for the Jack were a secondary. As a
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Speaker 1: versatile player, he can play safety, cornerback, nickel or weak
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Speaker 1: side linebacker and has the goods to cover slot receivers
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Speaker 1: and tight ends. He'll immediately boost any unit end quote,
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Speaker 1: what do you think, buck Well? I like Holland. Holland
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Speaker 1: is a really good prospect. I also know m J
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Speaker 1: D very very well. I Jaguars size are real and established.
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Speaker 1: And I would say that the little blurb did he
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Speaker 1: mentioned with Katie Prep the his seven H seven team
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Speaker 1: and private training company, like I'm certainly I'm pretty positive
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Speaker 1: that impacted and influenced his view on Holland as a
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Speaker 1: first round pick. I don't quite know if he is
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Speaker 1: a first rounder, but I will say that the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: definitely needs someone in the secondary that can do I
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Speaker 1: guess can occupy the Swiss Army knife role many they
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Speaker 1: can come down and play in the nickel if they
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Speaker 1: can do some weeks out lineback and stuff and bliss
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Speaker 1: and cover and all those. The new age of defense
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Speaker 1: requires that you have some guys that are come of
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Speaker 1: positionless players in the secondary. Holland appears to have some
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Speaker 1: of that capacity. Johnny want to mock this mock I'm
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Speaker 1: fine with the concept. Well, I like from mock drafts,
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Speaker 1: I look for, does the guy sort of know what
19:15
Speaker 1: the team is looking at in a certain situations. I
19:17
Speaker 1: made perfect sense to say that Jaguars are gonna look
19:19
Speaker 1: at safety. When I look at the Jaguars this year,
19:23
Speaker 1: I kind of look at all those sixty you know,
19:25
Speaker 1: the top sixty five five. In the top sixty five,
19:27
Speaker 1: I believe there's a few combinations of things they will
19:31
Speaker 1: try to get done in that top sixty five. Obviously
19:33
Speaker 1: quarterback is gonna be one, and I think they're going
19:35
Speaker 1: to take some version of two speed players, a safety
19:39
Speaker 1: tight end or a defensive tackle. So there's I just
19:43
Speaker 1: mentioned one of those things won't happen, but I think
19:48
Speaker 1: I think in that realm, I think they're gonna be
19:51
Speaker 1: in that direction. So as safety, a Swiss Army knife
19:54
Speaker 1: gout makes perfect sense. I don't know if this guy
19:56
Speaker 1: is gonna be a twenty five or thirty three or
19:58
Speaker 1: forty five, but something along those lines makes sense. I
20:01
Speaker 1: think the instincts right, even if the guy is not.
20:04
Speaker 1: You know, I'm so fascinated. Without talking to Trent or
20:08
Speaker 1: coach Meyer, I just wonder how they view the roster,
20:12
Speaker 1: the strong points in the weak points and what are
20:14
Speaker 1: the must have What are the things when you come
20:17
Speaker 1: out of the draft that we must have this position field,
20:21
Speaker 1: when we when we finished draft day weekend, and when
20:23
Speaker 1: we mean field field with the topic not a developmental
20:27
Speaker 1: guide has taken into fifth, six or seventh. But someone
20:31
Speaker 1: using an expensive draft chip, how can we feel it?
20:34
Speaker 1: What are those most fas Like they've got six expensive
20:37
Speaker 1: draft chick chips. I feel like maybe down to the
20:41
Speaker 1: fourth round you could sort of qualify if you do that.
20:45
Speaker 1: So I feel like they've got six guys right now
20:47
Speaker 1: that they could feel relatively strongly, but maybe fitt them
20:51
Speaker 1: in somewhere. You know speed guy that I'm talking about.
20:54
Speaker 1: It could happen at running back in the fourth round,
20:56
Speaker 1: Like you can get that element there. It feels like
20:59
Speaker 1: tight end. You've got to get somewhere in the top
21:00
Speaker 1: four rounds, but it tapers off so fast after pits
21:04
Speaker 1: that you wonder if it'll fit. Yeah, there's someone they
21:08
Speaker 1: can they can land within the first sixty five. There
21:12
Speaker 1: three tide Ends, Farmouth Hunter, Long, Reverend Jordan's that would
21:19
Speaker 1: I would say being played Day two, second or third round,
21:22
Speaker 1: those guys should go after that trade. McKitty and those
21:25
Speaker 1: guys are more your Day four developmental types. Here's the
21:29
Speaker 1: thing on a on a bigger picture when we think
21:31
Speaker 1: about the Jaguars and less think pie in the sky
21:33
Speaker 1: moment on two to three years, for this team to
21:36
Speaker 1: be a championship team, you need to have ten to
21:39
Speaker 1: twelve what we call blue chip players, meaning players that
21:44
Speaker 1: reasonably ranked top five of their position, top ten of
21:48
Speaker 1: their position around the league. And so as we're looking
21:52
Speaker 1: at the team that's constructed now and as we're thinking
21:54
Speaker 1: about acquiring players to build a championship team, we have
21:58
Speaker 1: to acquire those kind of players. It has to be
22:00
Speaker 1: to that standard. And so it's really important this first
22:04
Speaker 1: draft with Trent that they get foundational players, guys that
22:08
Speaker 1: are going to be around for a while and really impacted. So, yes,
22:12
Speaker 1: we can say Trevor Lawrence is one of those, but
22:14
Speaker 1: how did they go about picking those blue chip players
22:18
Speaker 1: in the draft? In which blue chip players do they
22:22
Speaker 1: feel like they're already on the roster? You know, because
22:25
Speaker 1: if you ask me, I would say Miles Jack would
22:27
Speaker 1: probably qualify in that category. I mean who else Josh Allen? Josh? Yeah?
22:32
Speaker 1: Like who? Okay? So we have Yeah, so we have
22:36
Speaker 1: we have those two guys. Man, we still need eight
22:39
Speaker 1: nine nine more guys and then after those tender til
22:44
Speaker 1: blue Chippers, you need a bunch of reds that are
22:47
Speaker 1: solid starters that contribute that you count on weekend, week out.
22:51
Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see over the next two
22:53
Speaker 1: years or so how quickly they can kind of tallly
22:57
Speaker 1: up some of those numbers. Do you feel like that
22:59
Speaker 1: there's there are guys who they feel close not quite
23:03
Speaker 1: there yet. Yeah. I feel like d Jr. Could be
23:05
Speaker 1: a guy that emerges as that He may not earn
23:08
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl recognition, maybe he does, but I think he
23:10
Speaker 1: could potentially emerges that uh C J. Henderson was drafted
23:14
Speaker 1: to be that kind of player, so now he has
23:17
Speaker 1: to play up to that potential. I mean, when you
23:20
Speaker 1: take a guy like Kyla mon Chasing where you take him,
23:22
Speaker 1: you expect him to emerge and be that on the
23:26
Speaker 1: offensive line, anybody that we feel like on the offensive
23:29
Speaker 1: line could be that piece. I know Cam Robinson is
23:32
Speaker 1: on that franchise money, but do we believe that he
23:34
Speaker 1: can be a top five, top ten offensive tackle. So
23:38
Speaker 1: some of it is Taylor ought to be a right
23:40
Speaker 1: tackle at some point, but I haven't been there yet.
23:43
Speaker 1: So as so it's either acquisition or development. You know,
23:46
Speaker 1: those are the two areas. And when you listen to
23:48
Speaker 1: coach Meyer talk, that's what he talks about, this player
23:50
Speaker 1: acquisition and player development. So did Jacks have to knock
23:55
Speaker 1: it out of the park and those two aspects to
23:57
Speaker 1: quickly return to prominence? This is The Huddle Podcast. J P. Shadrick,
24:01
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, NFL media analyst, John Osier, Jaguars dot Com
24:06
Speaker 1: senior writer. You know, it's been a long time ago
24:09
Speaker 1: since Trent Balky had his first draft in San Francisco,
24:14
Speaker 1: and if you remember, you know he took over late
24:17
Speaker 1: in that process, in a month before the draft. There
24:22
Speaker 1: was some front office shake up and then all of
24:25
Speaker 1: a sudden he's in charge of the draft a month
24:28
Speaker 1: later and you did some wheeling and dealing in that
24:32
Speaker 1: draft that affected the next couple of years of the
24:35
Speaker 1: forty Niners draft situation. How how much do you does
24:39
Speaker 1: does that matter? Now? His history? You know, he may
24:43
Speaker 1: not have had a lot of that in the last
24:44
Speaker 1: few years in San Francisco, but that's that's ten eleven
24:47
Speaker 1: years ago. Traded back to the third round, they got
24:49
Speaker 1: Navarro Bowman that year and a fourth round pick, but
24:53
Speaker 1: then the next year they moved up from forty five
24:56
Speaker 1: to thirty six, used that additional fourth round pick to
24:59
Speaker 1: get Colin Kaepernick, and those are big pieces of that
25:01
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run. Of course, it's too far removed right
25:05
Speaker 1: to really look too far into that. No, it speaks
25:07
Speaker 1: to how he treats the draft when he feels conviction
25:12
Speaker 1: about a player or players that if he feels like
25:15
Speaker 1: there's a player that can be an impact player, he's
25:18
Speaker 1: willing to move up and get him. I didn't even
25:20
Speaker 1: realize that they dragged. They traded up to get arranged
25:22
Speaker 1: to get capped. I mean he he was a huge
25:25
Speaker 1: addition um and a huge part of their run to
25:28
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Uh. Navar Bowman team with Patrick Willis
25:31
Speaker 1: state lockdown the middle of that fourtyn his defense for years.
25:35
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that speaks to it. Now, they're gonna
25:37
Speaker 1: be some swings and mrs. Because mean go and you
25:39
Speaker 1: check there. There's some guys that were taking that. She's like, ah,
25:42
Speaker 1: there's a bit of a reach. But he also hit
25:44
Speaker 1: an all the Smith. All the Smith came into the
25:47
Speaker 1: league and had a pretty pedestrian collegiate career. But I
25:50
Speaker 1: mean the first three years he's one of the like
25:52
Speaker 1: he was trending towards all time great status, so bark.
25:56
Speaker 1: He definitely has an eye for talent. He knows exactly
25:59
Speaker 1: what he's looking for it. The key will be can
26:02
Speaker 1: he and coach Maya get on the same page when
26:05
Speaker 1: it comes to who they're bringing in. Everything I heard
26:08
Speaker 1: about the Senior Bowl was that's what this guy likes
26:11
Speaker 1: to do. Trent ball Ky likes to move around in
26:13
Speaker 1: the draft and get in spots where he thinks there's
26:16
Speaker 1: value in the draft. He likes to try to maximize
26:18
Speaker 1: picks there and that he can do it, like JP said,
26:22
Speaker 1: but with an eye on the next year. And I've
26:25
Speaker 1: heard different things from people. We had Tony Pauline on
26:28
Speaker 1: who's a very good draft guy as well. So he
26:30
Speaker 1: thinks that next year's draft, deeper in the draft should
26:34
Speaker 1: be better than this year's draft. Deep in the draft,
26:36
Speaker 1: like you're going to see more good fifth six round
26:39
Speaker 1: picks because of all the guys who went back to
26:41
Speaker 1: school this year. Uh So, could Trent later in the
26:46
Speaker 1: in the draft if he doesn't like six round picks
26:48
Speaker 1: this year, could he try to trade for fifth and
26:51
Speaker 1: six round picks next year. He talks about value, and
26:55
Speaker 1: that seems to be in line with somebody who likes
26:57
Speaker 1: to try to find a lot of value in the draft.
26:59
Speaker 1: So I think I think watching him in this year's
27:01
Speaker 1: draft is gonna be fascinating to learn how he likes
27:03
Speaker 1: to operate. Yeah, it will be interesting to see how
27:07
Speaker 1: Balky approaches all of it, the draft, the look at
27:12
Speaker 1: him because it's an uneven playing field. So how can
27:15
Speaker 1: I judge who's normally going to pop their their final
27:18
Speaker 1: season and Cobb when you don't have those things? And
27:21
Speaker 1: so how much do you know about the two class
27:25
Speaker 1: that comes into play when you're making some decisions. One,
27:28
Speaker 1: it's a different landscape. Man, it's more volved or more wild,
27:31
Speaker 1: wild West like than I ever can imagine, ever can remember.
27:35
Speaker 1: And you probably know less about that two class than
27:39
Speaker 1: any class in a long, long time, right because they're
27:42
Speaker 1: still sort of young. Yes, it's hard to know who
27:45
Speaker 1: sleepers are going to be in that thing. Yeah, it's uh,
27:48
Speaker 1: it's a different deal, just a completely different deal. This
27:51
Speaker 1: is the Huddle Up Podcast. J P. Shadrick, Lucky Brooks,
27:54
Speaker 1: John Osher. Let's touch on one note around the league.
27:58
Speaker 1: I guess it's not really around the league, around football.
28:01
Speaker 1: It's around the sport, I suppose. But it's a familiar
28:05
Speaker 1: name to Jaguars fans and folks in this division and
28:08
Speaker 1: in this place, and then in the past of this franchise.
28:11
Speaker 1: Eddie George. You probably heard of Hian Trophy winner nine
28:16
Speaker 1: NFL seasons, over ten thousand yards rushing, four time Pro Bowler.
28:20
Speaker 1: He's revered in Nashville. Of course. He was named head
28:23
Speaker 1: coach of the Tennessee State Tigers there in the Ohio
28:26
Speaker 1: Valley Conference now, but he doesn't have coaching experience. But
28:31
Speaker 1: it's a trend now to have some former players coaching
28:34
Speaker 1: historically black colleges and universities. Dion Sanders is at Jackson State.
28:40
Speaker 1: Tyrone Wheatley is at Morgan State now former Jaguars running
28:44
Speaker 1: backs coach and a great running back in his own right.
28:47
Speaker 1: Of course, somebody I saw something that kind of struck
28:49
Speaker 1: me on this year, the day somebody said, hey, this
28:51
Speaker 1: could be another heyday of HBCU football. It will never
28:56
Speaker 1: be the heyday of the fifties and sixty when all
29:01
Speaker 1: the black football players had to go to black colleges
29:03
Speaker 1: they weren't allowed. It was segregated schools, and once the
29:07
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies seventy one happened, the big Southern schools became desegregated.
29:12
Speaker 1: Those players could go to Alabama and Tennessee and in
29:15
Speaker 1: places like that, and that brand of football wasn't quite
29:19
Speaker 1: the same. There's still players at these schools, Bucky, Yeah,
29:22
Speaker 1: but it's different. It's different now, And I guess there's
29:25
Speaker 1: a couple of questions here. First off, what do you
29:27
Speaker 1: think of the move Rattie George? And second there there
29:30
Speaker 1: is still quality football play. Yeah, so uh, I think
29:34
Speaker 1: it's a It's an interesting time because you have a
29:37
Speaker 1: bunch of former players who want to be coaches, who
29:41
Speaker 1: a bunch of coaches in general who aspired to be
29:43
Speaker 1: the head of programs, and many of them have cast
29:46
Speaker 1: a bad eye or frowned upon going to HBCUs. With
29:50
Speaker 1: Dion going and bringing so much attention to Jackson State,
29:53
Speaker 1: it's kind of changed the narrative a little bit because
29:56
Speaker 1: he's elevated the profile in those things. Eddie George steps
30:00
Speaker 1: to a situation that has Tennessee I mean, Tennessee State
30:03
Speaker 1: has tradition and has talent. They've been players that have
30:07
Speaker 1: come through there, but as a first time head coach,
30:11
Speaker 1: it's a different situation because you're stepping in somewhere that
30:13
Speaker 1: doesn't have resources, and so how does he put an
30:17
Speaker 1: infrastructure in place to help him? Well, on the streets
30:20
Speaker 1: are saying Jeff Fisher may come on board because it's
30:23
Speaker 1: right there in Nashville, has a house. Hugh Jackson could
30:26
Speaker 1: potentially come on board to be his office coordinator, and
30:29
Speaker 1: there's some others who could come on board to to
30:32
Speaker 1: help him. But if it's a different it's a different hustle.
30:35
Speaker 1: It's a different hustle than what he's used to. Yeah,
30:37
Speaker 1: it's a different situation. And uh, you know Dion Going back,
30:41
Speaker 1: Dion's name is so big and so current because of
30:46
Speaker 1: the work he did on NFL Network because he's prime.
30:48
Speaker 1: Let gonna say he's Jordan's but yeah, he still has cache.
30:52
Speaker 1: Among the young players. Eddie George, who I got a
30:56
Speaker 1: chance to get to know a little bit tangently when
30:59
Speaker 1: I was covering the Jags a flip to Tennessee a
31:01
Speaker 1: lot back when paper still did that. I was around
31:05
Speaker 1: Eddie George a lot and always thought that he could
31:09
Speaker 1: be a coach. His personality, his ability to handle situations,
31:15
Speaker 1: to speak to issues in the media. He had a
31:18
Speaker 1: little bit of a presidential thing to refer to what
31:20
Speaker 1: said earlier. You know, he's got that personality type. I
31:24
Speaker 1: don't doubt that he could succeed in coaching, the communication,
31:28
Speaker 1: those things be very good at I don't know enough
31:31
Speaker 1: about Tennessee State to know what his situation will be there.
31:35
Speaker 1: It makes sense to me, though, to hire these name
31:38
Speaker 1: guys to do these jobs, because so much of recruiting
31:42
Speaker 1: at that level, I would think, is name recognition a
31:47
Speaker 1: and can this guy get me some recognition if I
31:50
Speaker 1: am good enough to go to the next level, which
31:51
Speaker 1: is always a dream. So there's a little bit of
31:54
Speaker 1: that where name recognition, star power makes sense for it.
31:57
Speaker 1: But I don't know if about Tennessee State to know
31:59
Speaker 1: if this works Frady George or not. Yeah, and looking
32:02
Speaker 1: at it, just popping into their record, they've I mean
32:05
Speaker 1: they've been national champions black House national championship champions. I
32:09
Speaker 1: mean a bunch of times, maybe twelve times. They've had
32:13
Speaker 1: some notable players, notable teams come through there. When we
32:17
Speaker 1: think about Richard Dent, how about that. Yeah, Binnie Anderson
32:21
Speaker 1: is two Tall, Jones, Um, Larry Kennerbrew, they remember Dominic Rogers, Camardis,
32:27
Speaker 1: So they've had good players come through there. So he's
32:30
Speaker 1: not just stepping into a program that's not rich with tradition.
32:33
Speaker 1: It's a matter of how quickly can he adapted being
32:36
Speaker 1: a coach, because being a coach is unlike any other
32:39
Speaker 1: thing that he has done. How quickly does he adjusted
32:42
Speaker 1: to that part of it. I was trying to think,
32:45
Speaker 1: since we're gonna have this conversation, the most notable HBCU
32:49
Speaker 1: player in Jaguars history, and I'd have to say mathis
32:53
Speaker 1: right cooking. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because they go a
33:00
Speaker 1: long way. That's a good play. Yeah yeah, if you
33:04
Speaker 1: go all the way back. Former general manager James Shack
33:08
Speaker 1: Harris always at that time Jackie always invested heavily in HBCUs.
33:14
Speaker 1: It was not uncommon to have one or two guys
33:17
Speaker 1: show up for opportunities and those things, and it's been
33:20
Speaker 1: a very fertile ground for development for some of these kids.
33:23
Speaker 1: I mean, we all have these success stories with guys
33:25
Speaker 1: that we played with at are but I mean we've
33:29
Speaker 1: seen it and we've seen that those institutions give some
33:32
Speaker 1: guys opportunities and if you can land on one like
33:36
Speaker 1: Eddie George it if you have some cash or whatever,
33:39
Speaker 1: you can do it the right way. And I think
33:40
Speaker 1: that's the big thing. Dion has gotten partnerships with these
33:44
Speaker 1: companies and a pair of companies and people to help
33:47
Speaker 1: him infuse the program with money and those things. Someone
33:51
Speaker 1: has to do that for Eddie George to give him
33:54
Speaker 1: an opportunity to really be successful. And there is a
33:56
Speaker 1: new showcase game this year for HBCU players, the leg
34:00
Speaker 1: A C Bowl. We played the Saturday after the Super
34:02
Speaker 1: Bowl Yulman Stadium in New Orleans on the Tulane campus
34:06
Speaker 1: and that'll be a good spotlight for a lot of
34:08
Speaker 1: guys at that level looking forward to that. Let's wrap
34:11
Speaker 1: up with a few social media questions today, gentlemen at
34:15
Speaker 1: Danton Thomas. With the report of t L I'm guessing
34:18
Speaker 1: that's Trevor Lawrence getting the playbook and processing it. Well,
34:21
Speaker 1: what type of impact will that have on the team
34:23
Speaker 1: when they get to O ts, etcetera. Well, we just
34:25
Speaker 1: talked about we don't know if just gonna even be that,
34:27
Speaker 1: but if he has a step ahead Bucky, that has
34:30
Speaker 1: to be a positive thing. There's a reasoning behind it. Yeah,
34:34
Speaker 1: there's a reason behind it. He may be able to
34:35
Speaker 1: know it like up here, but going through an executing
34:39
Speaker 1: in game action is a little different. But let's be honest. Now,
34:42
Speaker 1: these guys, these top quarterbacks to hire gurus. The guru
34:45
Speaker 1: calls the coach, they get the plays in the playbook
34:48
Speaker 1: in a way, they go and they train, can't hurt. Yeah,
34:52
Speaker 1: it's kind of obvious, but I mean but most of
34:55
Speaker 1: these guys, Uh, once they know where they're going, they
34:59
Speaker 1: have an eye idea. Uh not surprising, Trevor, has it
35:03
Speaker 1: because you've got to get again. I go back to
35:06
Speaker 1: there's a perfect sample of situation. There's no way these
35:09
Speaker 1: young guys don't want to be here during the next
35:11
Speaker 1: two months to try to learn as much as possible.
35:14
Speaker 1: And if they don't want to be here in the
35:15
Speaker 1: next two months, try to learn as possible, and then
35:16
Speaker 1: you drafted the wrong guy for young players. I'm not
35:21
Speaker 1: saying it for I'm not saying it Jack. I don't
35:26
Speaker 1: care if he's here in Urbans second year, but for
35:30
Speaker 1: this new situation, they need to be here. So I'm
35:33
Speaker 1: off topic a little bit. I'm still angry consistent today,
35:38
Speaker 1: Coach coach Meyers is poould you in and let you
35:42
Speaker 1: drink some of that teal kool aid. You're on it.
35:46
Speaker 1: It honestly has nothing to do with that. I'm saying
35:48
Speaker 1: for any young player, right man, I get it. You
35:53
Speaker 1: want to be an O t A s in may.
35:56
Speaker 1: I don't want to be there, but they should be
35:59
Speaker 1: to be J P. John John operates under that voluntary mandatory. Yeah,
36:06
Speaker 1: we have a voluntary meeting. You know, here's my ideal,
36:12
Speaker 1: O t A. Here's my ideal O T JP. Every
36:16
Speaker 1: player who is not in their second contract, first year
36:22
Speaker 1: head coaches, and no senior writers. How about that? How's
36:25
Speaker 1: that for a great O T A. That's some fine
36:27
Speaker 1: print right there? Ain't there very fine print? Our next
36:36
Speaker 1: question from that, having off Joel and this is a
36:38
Speaker 1: little broad buck even stay with us at pick? Do
36:41
Speaker 1: you go with a position you need? Our best available?
36:44
Speaker 1: And who are some names you can see sliding the
36:48
Speaker 1: that are higher on the board and a lot of mocks.
36:50
Speaker 1: I know you see that, we all see a lot
36:52
Speaker 1: of mocks. But is there a great slide this year?
36:56
Speaker 1: In your mind? Defensive leaves will get kicked out of
36:58
Speaker 1: the first ten pigs because of the fascination with the
37:01
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and skill guys and those things. So I would
37:04
Speaker 1: expect to see some type of defenders fallback. I would
37:08
Speaker 1: also maybe that impacts the tackle class where you see
37:12
Speaker 1: two distinct divide divisions. Uh, you see Bara Tucker, Sewell Slater,
37:18
Speaker 1: those guys go and then you come back down and
37:21
Speaker 1: Derek Shaw, Jenkins Mayfield. Those guys are in their own category.
37:27
Speaker 1: You'll see some sliders. I think for Jacksonville, if you
37:30
Speaker 1: operate under premise to take the best player available, there's
37:33
Speaker 1: gonna be plenty of good players available. You just have
37:35
Speaker 1: to hand in the card. I do believe they've set
37:37
Speaker 1: themselves up where they can lean a lot more toward
37:41
Speaker 1: best available and value at that spot given their situation.
37:46
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a need I think there's a
37:48
Speaker 1: reason to reach for a need there, because how much
37:52
Speaker 1: is that guy at I say they reach for a
37:55
Speaker 1: need and and marriage there from TCU, Well then it's
38:00
Speaker 1: not a bad pick. That's fine. But they're not in
38:04
Speaker 1: a position roster wise where they're saying, hey, if we
38:07
Speaker 1: just get this wide receiver, it's gonna put us over
38:10
Speaker 1: the top. So I'd be shocked if they don't get
38:13
Speaker 1: a good value mixed their Yeah, it'd be interested. Man. This'
38:16
Speaker 1: that's a tough deal. I mean, if we were doing
38:18
Speaker 1: it correctly, if we really had a draft board and
38:21
Speaker 1: we're talking about Jack's prospects, it really should only have
38:23
Speaker 1: seventy hundred names. That way, you you prune to treat,
38:27
Speaker 1: you keep everything out, and you know exactly who you want,
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Speaker 1: you want to target, how you want to manipulate the
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Speaker 1: boy to make sure you're getting ranged and get a
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Speaker 1: handful of your guys, and then you just have to
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Speaker 1: it's gonna final question today comes from Argentina at Waco Guarena.
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Speaker 1: What can we get for the pick trading down and
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Speaker 1: with whom would be a great spot? And also in
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Speaker 1: addition here my first baby was just born named Noah,
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Speaker 1: and he'll be joining me watching Jags draft day. Super hypeer.
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Speaker 1: Congratulations on the new board. That's fantastic. Well, he doesn't
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Speaker 1: want to he wants to trade out. Where would they go,
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Speaker 1: Bucky or should they just pick it? You don't want
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Speaker 1: to go too far out. If you go, they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be teams. They don't want to rush up to get
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Speaker 1: maybe the final quarterback or one of the it's here.
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Speaker 1: One pass for us is something that it's hard to
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Speaker 1: find in the draft. Man, I don't know what you
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Speaker 1: can You're about to get that back. It's tough on me. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I would say don't. I would say, you don't want
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Speaker 1: to go too far into thirties. So if I'm trading
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Speaker 1: out the second one, I'll fall back into the second round.
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Speaker 1: But I don't want to go too far out because
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Speaker 1: I'm still gonna probably land a good play. Yeah, I agree.
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Speaker 1: I don't think you would want to go past I
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Speaker 1: think you would want to get in exchange something between
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Speaker 1: thirty three and forty five. Those are the two picks
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Speaker 1: they have there. I think if you're going back, you'd
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Speaker 1: want to stay still in that range because I mean, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: you think like they're starters available at that range. But
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Speaker 1: then in addition, what would you want, Bucky, you'd want
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Speaker 1: a third rounder to move. I mean, can get a
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Speaker 1: third rounder to get you to drop that back that far? Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: you get you have to give a third It wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be worth it to me because I prefer players over picks.
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Speaker 1: I'd rather know exactly what I'm getting in him and
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Speaker 1: Hall and wait um. But there's something to that for sure.
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Speaker 1: They're having our social questions. Thank you for the submissions.
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Speaker 1: On Tuesday afternoon, we are two weeks away from the
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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. It's almost here, Bucky. We will talk to
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Speaker 1: you again next week. Man, let's get it. John will
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Speaker 1: talk to you later today. I can't wait. I cannot wait,
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