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Nature’s Pocket: Chewbacca Mask Lady & Stairway to Heaven Lawsuit · Multiple Nerdgasm

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it's podcast time welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts Matt it's all a bit hearty so I don't really understand
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it Luke is that a little s penis damn I accidentally got soap in my urethra
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multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things nerdy that time again actually we're
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actually early this week are we we're not early we're on time well we're on
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time we last few weeks we've been late the audience listeners wouldn't know
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that but we have been late the last few weeks Once Again Luke you could have
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just not said anything and no one would have known I know but I just I I like to
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share with them they don't care what they we record it they just care that it
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comes out when it's supposed to I assume listeners if you do care let us know I
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mean I don't know why you would that could be an interesting thing to learn
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yeah learn and then ignore of course CU quite honestly listeners I mean I
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respect you and I I value you as listeners but if if you start weighing
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in on like what I do on recording day then I'm just going to have to ignore
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you like if people start asking me to wear pants this just isn't going to work
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yeah yeah is it not too cold for nakedness down there I mean down in
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camera not down there the amount of heers that I have on it's actually quite
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toasty getting a sweat on some of those hand warmers and just have have them in the
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pockets yep and I meant like Nature's pocket what what is Nature's pocket
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Nature's hand warer sorry what pocket do you have on your
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body what are we talking you're afraid of the answer M you don't want to know
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okay just just leave it did you order a new a new butt plug a warming butt plug
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is that what this is I bet is a warming I'm got to look at that butt
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plug I have to play the jingle yeah play
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the jingle MADD why not why
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not you to sex to news sex to
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news shopping and
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um I don't think well the warming up that I found
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isn't the warming up that I was looking for so you you just mean warming things
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up sexually oh no no I bet to actually just have like a pretty much a mini
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heater Fe your anus I would insert what I found is uh like when you're warming
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up and it's important to stretch I see you heard it here first
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folks in in other words Luke just so I'm clear what you found is a slightly
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smaller or let's say Slimmer butt plug that's for warming yourself up like a
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taper for your yes exactly but I think there is now a market for selling a
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heated but plug interesting well with a multiple nerdgasm logo on it obviously
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of course I wonder if that could be a good idea for some
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merch yeah oh well we'll look into it well we do have a we do have a friend at
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who manufactures butt plugs in general now the maker of the um the magic plug I
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still can't find it I don't know what I did with it oh
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man don't worry luk what goes up must come down you didn't put it in a guest and
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then they left it's possible there's a lot of people here yeah it happens I showed you
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guys a video uh just before we began cuz you hadn't seen it yet I'm surprised
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that you guys haven't heard about this cuz it's she's been [ __ ] everywhere
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and it's actually to me Matt and I think your everywhere
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is different to our everywhere just quietly I would not have heard of this
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except it was on all the news websites you know uh maybe a month or so ago and
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then on a few podcasts people were talking about it as well and I'm talking
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about the chewbaca lady the the lady with the Chewbacca mom I think they call
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her the woman chewbaca mask she's just a woman in a car yeah no I think she is a
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mom but anyway the she's she's now very very famous for some reason right well
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because of this reason here 6, 700,000 views yeah that's the reason and that's
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not even the original the original was on Facebook where it just went viral
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okay yeah the original has 158 million views I mean just looking in
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the sidebar here we've got her on the James Cordon show we've got her on Good
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Morning America yep um it's
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ridiculous so but I mean that's fine I think making
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the most of her 15 minutes of fame is is fine except like it's gotten silly now
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because she has got her own action figure from Hasbro well that's [ __ ]
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awesome and I want to know how I get my own action figure well you just have to
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be is this an official Star Wars actually you know what've we've gone too
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far into this because I'm assuming that like two3 of the people in this podcast
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most of our listeners have no idea we're talking about right okay well we'll put
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the link in the show notes it's a video of if just a woman in her car and she's
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bought the Chewbacca mask that makes the noise right and it makes mark because I
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now want one when you move your mouth it makes noises and she puts it on and she
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just loses it and and just starts laughing hysterically and she can't stop
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and there is something a little bit endearing in just how much she enjoys
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the fact that she's got a che that makes a sound a funny video I'm not disputing
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that but now like I said she's got her own action figure and it's chew Barker
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with her head on it well that's not right that's actually completely the
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wrong way around it's like a 12T tall action figure 12T it's not 12T it's 12
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in tall it should be her body with the Chewbacca head that's yeah that's
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accurate yeah they've dropped the ball so that's that's Hasbro have made that
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for her and not only that and I thought this was a bit cheeky oh my God it's in
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the official Star Wars line of toys yeah yes that's what I mean it's it's a bit
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weird what in the actual [ __ ] not only that she's turned up at the Dallas Fan
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Expo right which is like a comic you know y uh you know it's an expo and
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she's charging people 20 bucks for her autograph wow in a booth next to uh Jack
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Leon Joffrey from Game of Thrones like she thinks she's on she's one of she's
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one of them now she thinks I find her slightly less irritating than him but
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are people paying it though well they must be I mean look some of the proceeds
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go to charity but uh but that kind of just means that what didn't she kept so
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good on her because in about a week's time everyone's going to forgotten about
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her to milk this while you can I just I I agree completely it's just when I saw
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that she has an action figure like an official Star Wars action figure I was
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like what world are we living in totes jelly let's be honest that is yeah I I
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would love to have my own action figure but but also I mean has I wouldn't want
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to be chewbaca I'd want to be an X-Wing outfit like were they just cashing in on
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this as well they're like people will buy this no no this is just a oneoff
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it's not they're not selling this right this is just hey come with us
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from free advertising cuz this is AD she's advertising their stuff yeah
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that's fair they've made her her very own custom action
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figure was a gift they presented to her yes that is a fair point because I just
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realized how many of those [ __ ] masks she sold for them no doubt yes
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so well she's just sold exactly right I think they're sold out
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everywhere damn thanks to Chewbacca yeah they have chewbaca Mom the thank for
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that so I can see her yeah take the toys she's also got I find this part a bit
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crazy she's got $500,000 worth of cash and gifts and college scholarships for
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her whole family what people are just
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that's I find bit crazy I mean look again good honor but yeah [ __ ] world
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thing I can understand Hasbro going oh man you have sold so many of these on
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our behalf here's an action figure but what university went well because you
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wore a mask on the internet and laughed at yourself I think we're going to put
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all your kids through college yeah she's obvious she's going to pop out some
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Smart Ones we'll give them all scholarships it' be a crime not to give
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these kids an education do they need publicity for for colle colleges I don't
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know what college I don't know it just says college scholarships in the article
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H for the whole family that's so strange good onor it's a bit Oprah isn't it you
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got a college scholarship and you got a college scholarship such a such a weird
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thing to it's our turn to get a college scholarship it's not that viral videos
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haven't happened before some of us actually went to college l
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oh it's not like viral videos haven't happened before but this one just struck
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me as like a bit over the top she's just getting all this stuff and it's like
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wait a minute like did she do something that I've not heard about other than
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just put the mask on and laugh but you know what this goes to show because I
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seem to recall several years ago uh Star
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Wars boy using his lightsaber uh ridiculed and bashed so much because of
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that video that you know a bunch of people decided that they should give him
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a bunch of free stuff everyone feels better about themselves and now you can
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actually just famous cuz you have a mask yeah no one's teasing this woman no I
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don't think so I think she's doing all right it's not like she was hurt in any
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way by this I don't think doesn't seem like it no and if she has she's hurt all
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the way to [ __ ] college cuz it literally happened overnight she posted
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the video on um Facebook live like she was just live streaming to just her
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friends and somebody shared it and then it got this got shared to the right
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people that it it went insane wow like you couldn't reproduce it if you tried
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it's just one of those weird things that happened and so she had not literally
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overnight she woke up in the morning and it was like [ __ ] you're you're world
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famous well I guess that's how it happens Chewbacca mom not Chewbacca's
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mom as Luke thought at first when I put the article in there well that's yeah
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first thing I thought what's Chewbacca's mom's name I can't remember she's in the
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holiday special no she's not that's his wife oh that's right and his Grand his
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dad right I not sure if it was his dad or his father-in-law
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his name's it stin something a waste of time fantastic piece of
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Cinema lightning in a b again this year they captured lightning in a
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bottle sure moving on from that we know any other the Star Wars related stuff I
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mean I don't think we do actually this this they leaked they put out some
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photos from Rogue one this week that included one photo of a stormtrooper
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holding a little Stormtrooper doll which
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I thought was confusing yet adorable
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I noticed they said um the the director GTH Edwards came out and said no no we
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always plan to do the re- shoots yeah well I mean I would expect him to say
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that but yeah that's fine well you don't expect him to come out going we made an
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absolutely sh boy did I [ __ ] I had no [ __ ] idea what I was doing I'm
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surprised they're even going to release this whole [ __ ] I know tell you what
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instead of watching this go back and watch The Phantom Menace you'll thank
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me yeah yeah I Thea camera pointed the wrong direction the whole time it's just
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two hours of my eyeball I love that they still they
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still edited that down to 2 hours see what we can oh this is useless they were
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like well let's edit this we can we can still hear the audio Yeah in some spots
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if you crop it just right you can see the reflection of what was going on in
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his eye through the lens and out the
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viewfinder reflected in his eye yeah yeah yeah I've not used one of those
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cameras before you probably noticed what they doing old timey
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they're shooting on film for these well at least they did for uh old timey
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someone's there cranking it well I mean it's it's a machine
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cranking it but it's one of the few cranks that happens these days well
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they did Force awakens was shot like that right that's that's what I mean
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that's what I'm trying to say starting with that they're shooting yeah that's
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interesting they started the middle finger at George Lucas that was with
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that yeah back to film poor George do recall there was a Star Wars figure with
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George's head on it yes there was Stormtrooper body George Lucas's head
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and now I think it was a celebration St celebration exclusive and now he's just
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looking at this [ __ ] Chewbacca mom going what have I done no he's just
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making movies for his friends he's just eating noodles in a food CT in
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Adelaide so weird that he did that I mean I haven't even eaten noodles
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in a food cord in Adelaide no why would I way too important for that all right
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so we don't have much more Star Wars news um we have I guess this is followup
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from something we disc there some Star Wars news oh is there sorry not real
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Star Wars new just something I found out a little while ago remember there was
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meant to be that cartoon series called detours oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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evidently that was done and made and they have all the episodes finished but
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they're not going to release why cuz it is it [ __ ] don't know huh it
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was cuz remember they announced that years ago yeah and you can go on YouTube
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and see the trailer for it and everything and then just never heard
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anything about it again I think it was at the time where it was being sold
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right yeah cuz it didn't I remember it didn't I don't think it looked very good
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it looked like just Robot Chicken but yeah it cuz you could it was them doing
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the voices yeah yeah but just animated evidently they did finish it it's just
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I'm the only person that doesn't get Robot Chicken I don't get it I've seen a
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couple of them that I thought were funny but in general it's not my
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favorite I it's it's not even one of those ones where I'm like okay I I you
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know I get it but I'm just not laughing like I genuinely don't even know where
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the gag is most of the time I'm like sitting there going [ __ ] missed
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something the funniest the Star Wars one I liked and because there was that one
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sketch where it was the guy in the Cantina and then his friend's like he he
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doesn't like you and he's like well that's not what I said and he goes I
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don't like you either he goes what are you doing man just calm down These Guys
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these guys are all right and then everyone cuts his arm off and he's like
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Jesus Christ and then it cuts to him at work and they're like well you I'm
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afraid we're going to have to let you go um if you don't perform your duties and
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he goes home and his wife leaves him a that was funny and there's also that one where
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Darth Darth Vader keeps altering the deal and it's just Lando freaking out
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and we had a deal yeah I am altering the deal he just keeps doing it that made me
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laugh no actually and there was one other Robot Chicken unrelated to Star
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Wars where it was this little kid and the and a girl like a boy and a girl
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sitting there playing action figures and in the boy's imagination they like fly
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off and they have these adventures and it goes for quite a while they're having
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these weird adventures and then it cuts back and he's like lying on the floor
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convulsing and she's like call an ambulance okay except it's probably that
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with Seth Green's annoying voice so I just can't get into it yeah well that's
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fair I just find the episodes are too short they go for like 12 minutes or
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something and I can't be bothered sitting down for that so short of time
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I'm not going to sit down if in 12 minutes I have to get back up again the
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problem with it is it's not funny because it's not long enough yeah or
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okay it's like that Woody Allen joke about the two old ladies eating dinner
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in a restaurant and one of them says see the food's really disgusting here and
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the other one says yes and in such small portions
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anyway I don't know what this podcast has become but uh I know all right look
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we got some followup on something we discussed a while ago about lead
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Zeppelin uh in case you worried about them I was a jury has decided incredibly
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worried they did not rip off Stairway to Heaven from another band am I the only
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one that's a little shocked by that no cuz I do think they had a case there
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based on what's been happening lately with with the Marvin Gay thing the fact
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that the the Gay's estate won that case and this guy didn't win this one is baffling to
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me yeah like I don't understand here's the thing
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like the fact that this band sued Leed
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Zeppelin 40 years on and just want some cash well after the guy who actually
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wrote and played it had died Marv G is dead as well but what I'm saying is this
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this is a good sign for the the I'm I'm pleased that this is the outcome
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considering all the [ __ ] that's been happening I'm happy I'm shocked but I'm
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happy yeah absolutely I I just thought based on I thought the case against um
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was it Robin Thick was was weaker than this case like musically like listening
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to the two pieces of music in this case instance I was like oh they're pretty
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similar whereas in the other one I was like no not really yeah but not up to me no no it's
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probably just better lawyers in this case yeah yeah but as the lawyers come
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out and said I think the jewry knows that no band invented the [ __ ] a
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minor diminished scale it's like well yeah you know and and they said oh but
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we were touring with them when they ripped this off it it doesn't it sounds
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similar it sounds as similar as any two rock bands who are on tour who probably
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Jam together every night yeah are going to sound like like my thing you had 40
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years yeah to bring this up yeah if you don't do within the first I don't know
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10 years well I mean that song was pretty famous oh Stairway to Heaven you
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probably heard it so the second that song sort of became famous that's your
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window like that's where it starts where you can start going hold on a second I
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think we have a jingle for this don't we do we which one something about [ __ ]
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Luke and I getting the shits at people for suing oh man yeah yeah yeah
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yeah C [Music]
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cases I've never seen har bird man hopefully this will do well stop suing
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other bands I uh I don't know if we've talked about this before did you know
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you know the band uh filter I assume uhuh yes you the the song Hey Man Nice
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Shot it's very famous song spawn uh no I know it from Spawn no that's
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um that's uh that's a different song um it's the one with the Crystal Method
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oh trip like I do um Hey Man Nice Shot is the one about Kur Cain it's in it's
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in a lot of stuff it's in Cable Guy I think okay anyway that's a very famous
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song um and have you heard of the band Stabbing Westward Dan I assume you heard
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I have I hate that you assume that I have but I have oh [ __ ] I love
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staring West I'm not I'm not ashamed to admit it I love them I saw them
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live they're great in the Sydney entertainment center they're kind of
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like gothy kind of alt band from the 90s they're great but but like like
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non-offensive no radio friendly yeah exactly well they have an album called
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uh God I believe it's called God it's one of the earlier albums and it's got a
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song on it the titular song God mhm and if you listen to that
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song I think you'll find it's exactly the same as Heyman I from filter and a
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lot some people have said hang on what's going on there and you know it's because
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the guitarist from filter was also the guitarist in Stabbing
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Westward and he just he took the song in and showed it to one band and then took
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it in showed it to the other band as well and they both went yep okay we're
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going to go with that one and he was like oh [ __ ] I just didn't say anything about it
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I guess not and then both came out I mean well that's I thought that was
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curious too under obl to to mention that he's
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already in both but if you listen to I you'll be
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the riff from um Heyman n I'm sure people would be familiar with it listen
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to a song called God by staring westw I'm sure there actually there's probably
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a comparison video on YouTube and it's it is literally the same like it's not
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similar it's the same riff and that's because it's the same
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guy playing it well here's the thing I mean if you're going to sue Led Zeppelin
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for stealing your song Right Kansas Joe McCoy should sue for When the Levy
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Breaks because he had a song called When the Levy Breaks that had the same CA and
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the same words and yet if you get Zeppelin 2 it says When the Levy Breaks
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lyrics and music by Led Zeppelin I assume that guy's probably dead though
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right well this guy's dead as well oh yeah true you just need a greedy estate
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maybe that's his mistake he didn't have have greedy children yeah you need a
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greedy estate and a judge who doesn't really know about mus anything about
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music exactly well speaking of of court cases and being sued and this moves onto
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video games which is a good SP to be suits going on this week yeah yes uh
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well valve is currently being sued interesting um you know can a strike go
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I do we know how you can get sort of those fancy skins sure that are worth
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lots of money for some reason yeah for some reason don't know what it is but
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they're being used to gamble okay so they're are site set up and yeah they
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gamble these skins which are some of them worth quite a bit of money what do
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you mean gamble them I don't actually know what they're gambling I can't find
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any article if they're gambling on matches or like I bet you I can beat you
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type of thing oh okay so it's like betting on matches and stuff yeah okay
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all right cuz and the problem here is mainly that anybody of any age could be
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doing this yes okay Val taken St so I could go on find a foury old kid playing
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and go I bet you you're that valuable skin that you've got oh that sounded
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weird never mind I'm I'm AB Banning in this train of thought I mean I'm not
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sure they were concerned about four-year-old kids it's just anyone
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under the age of 18 yeah yeah is the is the problem because valve have taken a
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stance of it's nothing to do with us yeah people will do what they will do
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yeah like this is we just we facilitate the selling of these skins they're over
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there on that website selling them and betting them where nothing to do with us
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well this guy's come along and he's put a lawsuit in go look I've lost money as
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an ed I've lost money as a minor and I don't actually think it's
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going to go anywhere I wouldn't think so well I mean somebody might say it's up
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to the parents in this case to um stop their minor children from gambling yeah
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cuz I mean yeah does that mean Skype is enabling us to gamble like we could I
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could call up you know I could say hey kids call me on
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going to come out and go yeah I've been gabbling underage yeah maybe that's it it's just
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a trap but though if you ging underage that what are your parents doing while
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you're on the internet I mean come
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on you I mean how old are these kids like well what well they're old enough
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to be able to have credit cards or paypals to be able to pay for this
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gambling yeah I know but that's I'm not going to I'm not sure what point you're
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making here well I've have got if I've got 16y old kids I'm not going to sit
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there and watch them while they're what are you doing what are you doing like I
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watch a lot of 16y old kids Matt and I watch them I watch them day in day out
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but no I know you can't watch what they're doing but you take to me I would
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be if I had like uh I'd be taking interest in their financial affairs of
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how why they're going through so much money in their PayPal yeah that's fair
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if you know about it well yes but there things like that like what this kid we
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talking about the other week they cut his mother's credit card and yeah spent
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the $50,000 on PayPal maybe you should keep a bitter eye on
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that all right I'll keep a better eye on my kids Luke sorry as far as I remember
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it was your mom's credit card that had happened to Luke so your mom messaged
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actually and said what are you guys talking about my credit card for wink
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win and we'll put Luke's Mom's credit card number in the show way yeah she
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appreciated the joke so don't gamble your uh your skin when you're if you're
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underage that's the message if you want gamble if you want just do it
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responsibly how do I win some young kid skin I don't know Luke's the expert you
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put a link in the show notes yeah we'll we'll link to CS Go Lounge all right see
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PL in there and Away you go L knows all about it now another lawsuit we got one
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more got one this one's a stupid one and I hate this one actually we do we've got
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another one too but yeah sorry um have you heard about the new
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game coming out no man's Sky yes looks cool well they've been going
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through a bit of a lawsuit for the last three years at no one's know about yeah
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I heard yeah because somebody is
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claiming they own the word Sky yes who
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the [ __ ] well companies do this Sky TV
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in um England okay not calling it no man
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Sky TV that's Sky
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News yeah but yes they believe and that
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people might confuse their brand with no man's Sky because that's ridiculous yeah
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cuz I'm looking at no man's sky right now and it's a beautifully rendered
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science fiction world and I've seen Sky TV and it's not that no no but
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apparently these lawyers are the same ones who forced Microsoft to change sky drive to one
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drive so if they got Microsoft to back down these are some good lawyers that's
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interest well not good enough cuz they've lost is that true well no they didn't lose what
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no one won this what they came everybody lost yeah oh they settled they settled
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no one no one not knows for how much or what the settlement was but they settled
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so they could use no man's sky that is so [ __ ] so does that
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mean you can't you well I mean other than if you settle out at court with
28:18
these [ __ ] you can't use the word sky in a title for anything because of Sky
28:24
TV that is a bad precedent for just in general Candy Crush computer programs um
28:30
you got computer games yeah well candy yeah king tried to to trademark candy
28:36
and they're like [ __ ] off [ __ ] off companies keep trying to do this and
28:41
I think it's it's dangerous look I understand it to a point I mean if if
28:45
your company is called Coca-Cola right and someone comes out
28:50
with a video game called cocaa and their logos no man's Coca-Cola well no not
28:56
that because I think that's coca just cocaa and the logo the same then I
29:02
probably get on the blower and say hey dude [ __ ] cut that out that's that's
29:06
my brand completely understand it this is whole copyright thing in is they
29:11
protect your brand yeah no man sky has nothing to do with Sky T like when we
29:15
had to Sue that guy Sue that stupid British guy over the multiple bird gasm
29:20
case back in the day [ __ ] we get any cash out of that I heard he was going to
29:24
settle no he just he sent me a a little package and it was just just like a
29:28
little bird's nest with some eggs in it oh that's kind of adorable oh that got
29:33
through customs he might be setting you up to take a fall o what a lovely PA of
29:38
tits oh hello I'm just having a little peep out my window I'm Winston winable
29:45
and if you love bird watching as much as I do and I do you can join me every week
29:50
for multiple bird GM your destination for all things
29:56
birdie did you eat the eggs they were delicious you can't go to jail if the
30:00
evidence is inside of you inside you that is an annoying lawsuit I
30:05
thought they'd won actually cuz I I would have been very happy if they had a
30:09
won sucks well I'm glad the game's coming out oh it's a PS4 exclusive for a
30:15
while yeah it's or or is it PC as well
30:18
PC as well no Xbox no Xbox ever or just
30:22
timed I think it's PS4 exclusive okay I thought it was a timed exclusive I saw
30:28
the word timed at one point in in this a sentence with it and I was like yeah but
30:33
Time Magazine is suing for the use of that word so they probably had to No
30:36
Man's time yeah oh just out of one word out of a sentence out of context in
30:42
another sentence and you can sue over that freaks me the [ __ ] out yeah I know it's it's
30:48
scary yeah that's why we need to need to register multiple nerdgasm in all states
30:54
and territories yeah and then sue everyone else who's using the word nerd yeah like
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I could honestly understand if this was had sky in a name and it was a game
31:04
about a television show or a television company or something like that yeah if
31:07
it was like a a parody of a news thing or something yeah then yes you might
31:12
have something going on but this is this space exploration thing yeah no one's
31:16
getting these two things confused so if I go outside and I'm like oh the sky is
31:20
nice today a lawyer is going to hand me a summons and say sky TV owns the rights
31:25
to that yeah stop expressing that sentiment garbage that doesn't B well hope it gets
31:30
better in the future I do too all right well our final lawsuit for the week then
31:35
is this uh this one is interesting because we have a had a potential
31:40
partner in uh in one of the people involved so you want to admit that Matt
31:44
well I mean we haven't alleged partner alleged partner this article is about
31:50
those gray Market game code sites uh have you ever seen these Dan you may not
31:55
have you know how you buy games on Steam buy games on your Xbox and generally you pay full
32:01
price you can also go to websites like
32:04
uh g2a or kinguin is another one and you
32:09
can purchase codes there um usually cheaper because uh they it's kind of
32:15
like eBay like anybody can sell their codes on there it's kind of like just a
32:20
platform that allows other people to sell stuff right so if you for example
32:26
were to purchase uh The Humble Bundle MH right and and I should note that the
32:31
Humble Bundle does not um actually support you doing this but but you can
32:37
you purchase the Humble Bundle you get a bunch of games and you've already got
32:40
two or three of the games but you get new keys you could go on to one of these
32:44
websites and you could sell those okay right yeah now that all seems
32:50
fine right so far except what's actually happening uh apparently frequently is
32:57
that people are either using stolen credit cards or just through um various
33:03
nefarious means getting hold of game
33:06
codes that are uh obtained you know not the the developers aren't getting paid
33:12
basically but then these people are getting game codes and they're selling
33:14
them and there's another example too remember when Fallout 4 was accidentally
33:17
free the other week did you see that yeah yeah well people apparently Mass
33:23
grabbed somehow codes for that and started selling them on the website so
33:26
people bought them and then moft took the game away from them yeah there's
33:30
certain uh questionable aspects to it but um as a a game developer Alex Nikki
33:35
poric yeah there we go that's his name yeah I'm sure that's correct yeah he's
33:39
the CEO of tiny build and he is threatening to sue them or he's it's all
33:46
a bit they're kind of threatening back and forth to sue uh g2a the company one
33:51
of these online trading companies because he's saying that um people are
33:54
getting keys for their game gravity ghost from somewhere and he doesn't know
33:59
where it is um and he's not he has not authorized g2a to sell them uh and he's losing
34:06
money so but see that's the thing like g2a isn't
34:11
actually selling the game on their behalf they're selling Keys which are
34:16
sold to them from someone else yeah right I think one of the big things that
34:19
people are upset with is one of the games out there they um they sold all of these games
34:26
legit through their through their all these Keys started then appearing on
34:30
g2a right and then all the credit cards that were used to buy them were reported
34:34
stolen right so they lost so everyone got charge backs they got chargebacks
34:38
yeah but g2a was still able to sell the keys and they still work right so the
34:43
only people who lose really are the developers are the developers yeah it's
34:47
not good what I don't understand is why they don't just go we're going to block
34:54
those keys but here's the thing I mean isn't this the same as eBay being blamed
34:59
if somebody stole something and then sold it on eBay yes yes that's exactly
35:04
the same yeah that's why it's well it's a little different because these
35:07
companies are often run out of China or um uh I think the the people in Poland
35:13
from kinguin um and so they're they're not
35:18
particularly stringent on checking who is selling things whereas I mean you're
35:24
right you could be any random person on eBay selling things whereas in this
35:27
actually setting up kind of a shop and in some cases it's quite simple to just
35:30
go on there and sell sure stuff with no with no checks and I I need to fact
35:35
correct myself um tiny build did not make gravity ghost that was another
35:38
developer they made uh tiny build made punch club and the gravity ghost
35:42
developer um she gives away an extra code with every copy of the game that
35:48
she sells so she was hoping that people would share it and more people would
35:51
play it and apparently they all get sold on these websites as well well that's you can't
35:58
that's going to happen yeah I know I know it's well the bigger issue that
36:02
happened recently was um Ubisoft
36:07
um removed from people's accounts um games that they had purchased through
36:13
these websites because they said [ __ ] you like we didn't get any money for
36:16
these so you can't have it and then the people were like yeah but I paid for
36:20
it so um they've said that they're going to reinstate the ones that they've since
36:25
removed but the keys have been canceled now so the people will still potentially be ripped
36:30
off well to me I don't think if if I pay
36:35
for a game yeah and then I sell it on but then I get judged back I don't feel
36:41
that key should work anymore I don't have any problem with the developers
36:45
shutting that key down right and the person I sold it to should be coming
36:50
back to me going what the hell yeah sure and it's the same in this case so if um
36:56
g2a by the these keys from someone who's stolen them and they sell them on but
37:01
then that the person who's brought them from GTA if they get developer can
37:04
cancel it g2a should be the one that deal with the well g2a don't sell them
37:09
on the person who who stole them sells them using g2a as the platform to sell
37:15
them Oh I thought that g2a was a part of it no no it's actually it's it it is
37:21
very like eBay like I am like the I use this to sell you my key oh that's the
37:28
thing and and but not only that the article goes into quite a bit of detail
37:31
and polygon have done a bunch of follow-ups on this too because they
37:33
tried to find out they tried to trace codes back to see where they came from
37:38
yep and with with help from g2a and some and some other people so they followed
37:43
them back to okay uh I purchased them from this seller on there and that
37:47
seller says he purchased it from this other guy who traded it on an online
37:52
forum for a key for Team Fortress 2 to this guy and then they tried to follow
37:56
it all the way back back and they said basically some or all of those people were lying
38:02
because like that's just not where the code came from the the developer
38:07
confirmed it's a Humble Bundle code so it's yeah it's like this Rabbit Hole
38:12
of but I mean how do you police this like if if there weren't these websites
38:16
people would just do it somewhere else right um or they just do it on eBay at
38:22
the end of the day um like the same thing happened on eBay if I was to buy
38:26
something off eBay and then please Rock up my door cuz that
38:30
was stolen I lose the stolen property and I lose the money right and then I
38:36
have to try and go through credit cards PayPal to try and get it back that way
38:41
or go through everyway to try and get it back yeah but I do lose both and I think
38:46
in this case it should be the same thing you're going onto a website which I
38:50
would agree with that I think if you don't buy something through the well
38:53
[ __ ] no cuz if I was on eBay I'd expect eBay to have a certain amount of
38:56
responsibility for would I well PP payp protects you somewhat and I'm looking at
39:01
G2 as well and they've got a 100% satisfaction guarantee okay so you're
39:07
that's the same as eBay's guarantee is the gta1 so to me it's I think the
39:11
developers should just go look this was brought on a stolen credit card it's
39:15
been charged back we're disabling that key I don't think there's any problem with that
39:21
H well look and the reason that that this was a specific interest is because
39:25
as I mentioned to you guys before the show um kingin did approach us uh wanting to
39:30
advertise on well we might I don't know whether
39:36
we're shooting ourselves in the foot by talking about I don't really care I like
39:39
to be transparent I don't think you know whatever you're going to know if we
39:42
start talking about them in in an advertising context so yeah um I just
39:49
wasn't sure whether whether we should based on all this stuff that's going on
39:52
what do you guys reckon I I'm okay with it I would have been fine with it but I
39:55
don't know if they're going to want to now after we [ __ ] dragged him through
39:58
the mud did we I think sort of defending them yeah I think we've been pretty fair
40:04
I mean they know that this is happening they're not I was mentioning it's not
40:07
maybe they found out on this podcast maybe I me fans of the show money well
40:13
spent there you go so pop on over there and um get yourself something nice oh wa
40:19
I did find something you have to buy insurance to be insured yes so it's a
40:26
g2a shield no no no I'm talking about kinguin well I don't know about kinguin
40:30
I'm I'm stop promoting G2 they're our competitors all right who's kinguin let
40:35
me go there yeah kinguin.net winnet I'll join up with them and I'll
40:42
buy something all right cuz I really do want a copy of punch
40:49
Club so not only that you're going to buy the one thing where the developer
40:52
like [ __ ] them oh I might buy his game from them actually might just wait cuz the
40:58
steam sales on at the moment yeah it is so i''d be crazy to buy one from a
41:02
secondhand yeah hand I love how you think it's secondhand it's like it's
41:07
slightly used a slightly used there's a massive summer sale on it kingin as well
41:11
right now but look yeah I mean there's some question about these websites I guess you just
41:16
need to be careful when you use them uh and make sure that the person you're
41:19
buying from has a very high um satisfaction rating Apparently that is
41:24
one way that you can protect yourself on there because which that's the same way
41:28
eBay started and here's the thing this is New Territory when eBay first started
41:32
I knew tons of people probably myself included at a certain point that was too
41:35
skeptical to use it you know what I mean I I needed to see enough other people do
41:40
it without repercussions before I went okay fine I'll put my credit card
41:43
details into this cuz now with eBay if I just if I think of something I want I
41:47
just go on eBay and just buy instantly without a second thought like it's just
41:51
where I go shopping now so I guess just bear in mind if you use these websites
41:55
you're not buying from the website you're buying from someone on the
41:59
internet who might be a [ __ ] with so go in check their feedback like you can
42:03
click through to the person's page um see the reviews that have been left like
42:07
if if this person's got no positive ratings and a thousand negative don't
42:11
buy from them and if you do well don't come wiin a was in fact don't
42:18
come WI a was anyway no we don't care no like I know I'm not uh kinguin's got
42:24
this bio protection as well 30 Bay money back guarantee uh they've got 100% verified
42:30
sellers so no scams no spam so to me go for it use them um but in saying that I
42:37
have no problem with the developers coming out later and going look this was
42:40
stolen from us and canceling the key it is the risk you are sort of still running well
42:46
that's that's not the best endorsement Luke but no no no what I've got here is
42:51
go ahead do it you'll be fine unless they revoke the key in which case you
42:54
won't be fine that's they right I can see right here and it's your fault for
42:59
listening to my advice they've got they've kingin is saying that all their
43:04
sellers are 100% verified yeah I know so you shouldn't be having that anyway yeah
43:09
I know but the developers are saying otherwise but Ian what can you do I
43:13
guess the difference is if you if you buy something off of eBay and someone
43:18
wasn't meant to sell it to you it doesn't just disappear from your
43:21
house that's true no the thing is it
43:24
can it's if it's stolen can how can it police aren't going to rock up at
43:31
your door from something you bought on eBay what are the you have an anote here
43:34
it sounds like you may may have an anecdote no no I I don't I'm just saying
43:39
that they would they're not going to rock up for your $5 thing but if you
43:42
brought a car they're coming around for wait you can buy a car on EB stolen car
43:47
off eBay you can buy cars and boats you can buy anything on
43:52
eBay couldn't buy my dad's love
43:57
I'm sorry I should laugh yeah he tried but then the police
44:04
came and took it away someone outbid me that's right his dad was like I didn't
44:08
authorize that and canceled [Laughter]
44:14
it he gave it away on some other
44:19
side oh dear so that's this might be a good time
44:24
to mention uh some other ways that you you can support us one of which being
44:29
head to patreon.com nerdgasm to support this podcast for as little as $1 an
44:34
episode uh or one of the most you want to jump in and tell us tell everyone how
44:39
it may or may not be a scam I'm just think I'm just trying to
44:42
find some keys I can sell [ __ ] hell um one of the best things most
44:49
helpful things you can do is jump onto iTunes uh and give us a positive rating
44:54
because that helps raise us through the ranks of podcasts and get more eyeballs
44:59
and on the on the page and then earballs on the on the show what am I talking
45:04
about help me out here guys I'm drowning no man I think you're doing fine and I
45:08
think if either of us were to intervene it would just take away from the
45:10
atmosphere that you've created okay just go for it all right great so um I yeah
45:16
hit the iTunes multiple nasm five stars please anything less just don't bother
45:21
if you don't like the show just walk away just walk we're not going to force
45:25
you to listen well we might you mentioned uh the Steam Sale is on Luke
45:31
that is true I've confirmed that it's so evil have you purchased stuff not yet
45:37
but there's a few things I'm looking at I have not purchased anything um I don't
45:42
have a PC so uh the my something needs to be able to run on this old MacBook of
45:48
mine if I'm going to buy it at this point on Steam there'll be plenty of
45:52
stuff that you could get there yeah I probably own them all though
45:56
already see Mac OS what's there there was I noticed there was a Civ Bundle
46:01
sale Dan if you're if you're looking for more Civ related St I don't know if
46:05
there's any Civ stuff I don't have yeah me either me either although there is
46:11
something we're going to talk about in a little bit there's one thing that I think I
46:15
might get it's 50% off what's that home
46:19
world oh yeah not but there's evidently
46:23
there's a a prequel which is a RTS like a
46:28
vehicle thing it's not you're not in space I say I don't know what you're
46:33
talking about okay good well remember how the start of Home World it basically
46:36
starts off that the the Earth was all fighting sure and then you find the
46:42
alien artifact and then you all come together I think this is about that
46:45
battle right before you join forces okay so you're going to Reby the game again
46:51
to get that or well no no I can buy it separately oh okay I own I've got the
46:57
the new home world right I got that as soon as it came out never played it but
47:02
I own it yeah that's that's how I roll just sitting there waiting for the day
47:08
that I decide to play a PC game your PC's held together with bits
47:13
of string at the moment isn't it it pretty much is yeah I think it would die
47:17
if I tried to play a game on it yeah mine's in the corner waiting to be
47:22
either I don't know how to sell a PC that's got no hard drives in it and is
47:26
like 6 years old I think it might just end up in the trash listeners what do I
47:30
do I haven't bought a PC since the '90s no I can't I can't I don't think I'm
47:34
going to buy another one no I I can't think of anyone that would buy a
47:39
six-year-old computer no that's doesn't work well I mean it works it just
47:43
doesn't have any hard drives in it cuz I took them out yeah but they'd have to go
47:46
out and buy extras to yeah make it work and just needs a hard drive listeners
47:51
the only people I know if you want my computer right in the only people I know
47:55
who would buy a computer that had to like buy parts and put it in wouldn't be
47:59
buying a six-year-old computer yeah Fair Point Fair Point all right well speaking
48:06
of Civ which we were um did you see this article about civilization edu I did see
48:13
this I thought uh coming out next year sounded like something that would really
48:18
successfully suck all the fun out of playing
48:22
Civ I think uh this might have been a bit interesting in history class in high
48:28
school it's basically a a special um education focused version of the game I
48:33
don't know if it's Civ 5 or if it's going to be um Civ 6 when when Civ 6
48:36
comes out yeah I wasn't sure about the article either yeah but apparently
48:40
they've um they've partnered with games for change which is a conference and
48:45
glass lab whatever that is um and they're going to give students it's a
48:49
version of Civ where they can U recreate historical events consider and evaluate
48:55
the geographical ramifications of their economic and technological decisions and
48:59
to engage in systems thinking and experiment with the Casual correlative
49:04
relationships good Lord between military technology political and socioeconomic
49:08
development I mean that just sounds like playing Civ so I was about to say I mean
49:11
what you've described is Civ the only difference is that in Civ currently I
49:15
can do whatever the [ __ ] I want yeah this can you change the outcome whereas
49:19
now I have to follow along with what actually happened right yeah this
49:23
doesn't sound like you're really playing so much as you just have to watch what
49:27
happens well I'm sure it's probably um I mean there's got to be a game to it it's
49:31
probably just kind of uh you know you can load up scenarios in Civ where it's
49:36
kind of like preconfigured where you know like say the the American Civil War
49:40
or something like that you just load up a scenario where that's already set up
49:43
and it's happening I pulled that example off out of my ass but you can you can do
49:48
that like you could play the Battle of Hastings yes that's right so I guess
49:53
this is just a version of Civ that comes with all those things built in and
49:56
probably just doesn't let the kids you know play C normal cuz that's not as
50:01
educational perhaps I mean don't get me wrong I wish that there was a certain
50:05
amount of authenticity brought to Civ for example like if I'm playing as
50:10
Julius Caesar I can build an anchor what do you know what I mean and I should
50:14
only be able to build an anchor what if I'm playing as the Cambodian Empire do
50:17
you know what I mean like it I I wish it was a bit more
50:21
uh aligned with who you've decided to play as cuz right now probably mods to
50:27
do that perhaps but yeah you're right you've got access if you find something
50:31
first you get it in Civ that's exactly right yeah yeah that's right with
50:35
wonders and whatnot yeah yeah I mean that is cool because I mean
50:40
strategically you can you can experiment um but yeah this this one I assume will
50:47
be more limited in that sense I think this sounds C fine I probably would have
50:51
enjoyed this when I was in school well when I was in school I used to play um I
50:55
played the original of Empires yeah right uh used to play where in the
50:59
worlders come San Diego oh [ __ ] yeah I did that was in primary school though yeah
51:05
myga put the [ __ ] out there why isn't there a new Cen San Diego game well
51:09
there were newer ones and they sucked yeah why I mean that's a put that
51:15
on iPad or iPhone like that's printing money right and and it's
51:19
educational well they were good games it's simple I mean the the the the
51:25
way the game works is is fine you know you've got to catch a criminal follow
51:29
them to locations based on actually learning [ __ ] about the world yep and
51:33
then try and catch them before the time runs out man you uh I think you need to
51:38
go to the iTunes Store type in kmen San Diego and uh have a little look what's
51:44
there are they really Comm San Diego games cmen San Diego returns a global
51:49
Spy game for kids huh well they it's that business idea like what stealing
51:54
their original idea yep they weren't doing anything with it well
52:00
no they were Luke that's the point well I guess I know what I'm
52:04
playing on the train this week I bet it's I bet it's a a shadow
52:10
watered down version of what we used to love like every come in San Diego and
52:16
there's also one called spy hunt I assume that's just if just ripped off
52:21
the game oh man why is the art in this common San Diego so oh I've got a game
52:25
I'm going to sell on King we going to buy com San Diego just to
52:29
sell it [ __ ] they better sponsor
52:32
us you better sponsor us yeah if I'm going to start selling
52:39
stuff on you I expect something out of the deal yeah the money you get from just the
52:43
money I would have thought that's a given someone else is annoyed at Fallout
52:47
4 not just me oh for Christ's sake so I'm absolutely loving Fallout 4 and the
52:53
fact that I've gotten the DLC now is is meaning I can play it all over again and
52:59
the far Harbor game is really quite good good story very immersive lots lots of
53:06
side quests all very cool H and then they made me play [ __ ] Minecraft for
53:11
3 hours in the middle of it before I could get back to the main [ __ ]
53:15
game what how do you mean Minecraft game within a game moving [ __ ] blocks
53:20
around no way to avoid it [ __ ] irritating uh what do you have to do
53:25
what do like Minecraft well look it basically is you just got to move
53:30
[ __ ] cubes around in like a little mini game that's you know I mean it's
53:35
it's kind of fun once you got to do it five times as five levels and by the
53:39
time I'm up to the fifth like honestly just let me get back to playing [ __ ]
53:45
Fallout there you go this the one where you can build like the weird machines
53:50
eventually the no no no no no this is just you're in a computer and this is
53:55
how the computer behaves and you got to uh you just got to do stuff I don't want
53:59
to give anything away I'm being very vague but it was just I hate when games
54:04
throw in something that is unlike the game you've been playing I mean it's
54:09
it's all well and good to have like a crazy little moment I mean all the
54:12
Fallout games have had you know that little Pleasantville sequence and i'
54:16
already played a psychedelic experience in this little Quest right and I thought
54:22
that was kind of me done but going in and having me play with blocks in a game
54:27
that felt completely alien to Fallout I'm just not into that I'm not into it
54:32
stop it fair enough yeah that is annoying especially yeah if it it brings everything to a
54:39
halt because you've got to finish this other game like um and look I'm not like
54:44
games in Bully remember that oh F absolutely absolutely and the fact that
54:49
you couldn't progress unless doing it remember that Luke you were here one
54:53
time playing Bully and and we sat there I mean I think we were we were drinking
54:57
but you sat there until like 3 in the morning trying to finish some stupid
55:00
mini game yeah and I did the one with [ __ ] sushi that took me ages yeah
55:06
yes ridiculous yeah Games should just be the games that they are if that if you
55:12
know what I mean yeah no I completely agree starting with Fallout 4 but I mean
55:17
look this was today that I did this so it's not like it's been like a week and
55:20
I'm still hopping on about it all right this is this is what I've literally been
55:23
doing just before we recorded this so it's fresh on Fresh in your mind yeah
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and I'm through it now so hopefully this is the last we'll hear of
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it well for bethesda's sake I hope so yeah oh that reminds me I need to check
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check what if I'm still in the competition andure achievements you don't know I don't know
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your achievement Streak still going oh hell yeah good stuff even when I was
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stuck in um Brisbane for work so get kept it going I have my Windows phone
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with me and what did you play on your windows
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I can't wait to hear the answer some toy
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tank game yeah okay you got this toy tank and you you sort of pull it back
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even in the game it's a toy it's a toy tank yep and you sort of pull it back
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let it go and then you going to try and drive it down a hill sounds
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riving um are you just not able to find good games on there is that what this is
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or have you played them all no no there are good games on there but it's called
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p of Geeks see you don't want a good game you want an easy game they'll just
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give you achievements just to give me a quick achievement yeah something I don't
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have to get involved in and I can just jump on do two seconds get an
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achievement log out genius that's what
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got me to 420 days
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genius well before we go um I would like to bring back a segment that we've not
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had on this show for quite a while MH and I'm talking of
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course about this
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one how welcome to Indian
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news no no no it's India India the
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country I'm sanjit marari and this is indiaan news it's Indian
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news that's our most racist jingle by the way I think you
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think I don't know the [ __ ] crimes was accidentally racist this uh this
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news from um also fits nicely into James Juan news
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which I like yes uh we play the jingle mat oh man another jingle yeah happy to
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Dan happy to this one's quite long it's called in segment I think should have
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just [ __ ] named him more appropriately here we
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[Music]
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go
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I really need to learn to make these Jingles I think not only do you need to
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play all of that but you need to start it back at the beginning and play it
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because I think out of respect to James ju we should be playing all of his
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jingle so we haven't played um I I'll play another James one things I would do
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to James one no no Whitten by
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one wit by one
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we by one we have a lot of James onean related Jingles we do and that that's
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not even all of them no we've got this one as
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[Music]
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wellam those two are quite similar anyway the news this week is that The
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Conjuring 2 is so terrifying that a 65-year-old man has died while watching
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it in pretty terrifying wow according to police two persons both native of Andra
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Pradesh had gone to watch the night show of the newly released horror movie The
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Conjuring 2 in Shala Cinemas in the town racist beep
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that sorry I just realized they couldn't pronounce it but don't see the night
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show if you're squeamish about horror movies no while watching the climax of
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the movie one of them complained of chest pain and fainted he was rushed to
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the Old Government hospital where the doctors declared him dead and it gets
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weirder than that cuz I mean I guess this just happens in India the paramedic
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staff in the hospital asked the person I assume they mean his friend to take the
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body to the government Medical College Hospital on the outskirts of town for
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postmortem yeah sorry so your friend's dead H so I'm going to need you to take him down
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to the to the morg unless you don't want a postmortem and then I guess just take
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him home well on the way there or he he took the body and then vanished with it
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so police are now asking for anybody who's with any information to please come
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forward cuz they don't even know who this guy is they didn't think they get any ID or
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something I guess it's it's a different world over there Luke but still I'm
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going to give you a dead body can I just get your name yeah my my friends had a
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heart attack oh he's dead you're gonna have to take him for postmortem all
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right and then off he goes with him so I I like to think that if you know if
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something happened to one of you guys or God forbid something happened to me you
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would steal my body away what do you want us to do with it whatever you want
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Luke cuz I've got a few ideas but go on just want to make sure you're cool with
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it don't I don't know yet do we need a jingle for this no no no no no no jingle
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just just it's just going to be between me and Matt's dead body okay no more I
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feel uncomfortable even being here right now well you're say if you're in a
1:00:54
different country he could oh my God what was that is that the
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sound of loop coming in the window what you didn't hear that noise no I
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heard it oh it was like a crash of some sort like jingling of
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bells it must have been this has gone weird it's gone weird now what the [ __ ]
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are you two talking about there was a there was a noise it wasn't on my end
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and it wasn't on Luke's I guess so it must have been on yours Dan oh there
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wasn't like a noise at your house well I guess there must have been
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beware this is getting creepy maybe it's who's this other person on the call
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Sanji mccu uh that's it I'm out since when am I the one that's going too far
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oh I don't know man youve changed him oh what didn't want Luke to be the [ __ ]
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