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Episode 79: Hardware Shop Of Horror II: Loftus Hall · The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Gather round camp father. Everyone listen to the very scary
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  Speaker 1: Halloween story on this week's episode on The Dumonderry Show.
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  Speaker 1: Here about the Terrible Tales lofts, all all that went
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  Speaker 1: dumb in there over the years. Will be careful and
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  Speaker 1: don't wait around camp fire for too long because it's
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  Speaker 1: no ordinary camp fire. It's a fire pit at the
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  Speaker 1: bottom of an hundred foot chimney that's about to come down.
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  Speaker 2: Move, Move, Move, Galleran, children, gallerund the warmth of a
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  Speaker 2: gas powered forklift. As myself and Tom Weld comb you
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  Speaker 2: in to a very special Halloween edition of The Tom
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  Speaker 2: and Jerry Show where we hand things over to the
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  Speaker 2: hardware shop of harm. Hello Tom.
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  Speaker 3: Nearly, I haunah fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: I went to a screening of a documentary last night
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  Speaker 1: about the locale around here, and we could do a
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  Speaker 1: ten hour podcast on how fucking scary this. This was
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  Speaker 1: the woods, the glenar Arlow where I live. It's the
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  Speaker 1: scary from the dawn of time. If people, if if
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  Speaker 1: you were chasing an assailant of any sort and he
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  Speaker 1: got to the woods here, leave them me. That's where
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  Speaker 1: you left him. Yeah, you backed away and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: make that was the Vikings, the British, the whole lot.
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  Speaker 3: They just went nope, yep, you'll be grand. Well, hellow
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  Speaker 3: to all our listeners here as you listen to this
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  Speaker 3: as it lands on Thursday, is the thirtieth of October,
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  Speaker 3: So it's Halloween weekend, shall we say? So when you're
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  Speaker 3: putting up your Halloween decorations or buying the last of
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  Speaker 3: your Halloween candy. As my children insisted, oh geez, I'm calling.
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  Speaker 1: I nip that.
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  Speaker 3: I nip that.
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  Speaker 1: But I think I'm gonna go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna lose because they heat the other
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  Speaker 1: lads keep on calling the candy. I'm like, guys, can
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  Speaker 1: we cot just call the sweets?
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  Speaker 3: They are sweets? Sweets. We said we'd give you, we'd
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  Speaker 3: give you a special episode, something scary to listen to,
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  Speaker 3: as we as we have done over the history of
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  Speaker 3: the Tom and Jerry Podcast. So if you're expecting a
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  Speaker 3: normal episode, probably the most scary thing about this episode
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  Speaker 3: is it ain't that, but good crack it regardless.
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  Speaker 1: Right, do you do you like Halloween? I did that
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  Speaker 1: sense you like Halloween? Doar?
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  Speaker 3: I like Halloween? Just fine? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: How about that? I like Halloween just fine. But you see,
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  Speaker 3: I know you, I'm know since Swin's.
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  Speaker 1: Day, I'm asking that knowing full well. What I can
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  Speaker 1: see in Jerry's eyes is like, yeah, I would mind
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  Speaker 1: it a month earlier, because really I'm gearing up for Christmas, Jerry,
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  Speaker 1: Jerry's gearing up for Christmas as soon as this drops
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  Speaker 1: and the pumpkins rot. Actually we left out a couple
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  Speaker 1: of pumpkins that have been alive by the girls.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, Tom, Do you know what I
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  Speaker 3: was going to tell you? Do you know what Halloween
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have that, say, for example, Christmas, and I dare
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  Speaker 3: say also Easter does. Halloween doesn't have a food that
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  Speaker 3: I like. Okay, Christmas comes with all Christmas goodies and
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  Speaker 3: eat and drink and be merry. And Easter you've got
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  Speaker 3: your Spring lamb and you've got your chocolate and all that.
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  Speaker 3: Halloween is nuts and fruit. Do you know I think
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  Speaker 3: maybe we should do something about that year We should?
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  Speaker 3: You know what, do you know what would mix things
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  Speaker 3: up a little bit? Halloween chops, Halloween burgers, Halloween stew,
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  Speaker 3: Halloween ribs, help us out here for yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you wish there was like a savory Halloween food, Halloween
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  Speaker 3: chicken wings, call them batwings? How are the chops not
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  Speaker 3: on this?
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  Speaker 1: We need to I'm deleting this from the podcast today
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  Speaker 1: because this is this is too good.
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  Speaker 3: This is money. Hey, do you know what I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to tell you? Do you know what? You're putting? Some
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  Speaker 3: food and Halloween ghost pepper? Fucking help us out here
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, lads. But instead, no, here's monkey nuts
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  Speaker 3: and uh, Harry.
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  Speaker 1: Bow, now you're talking. I've got an idea. Why don't
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  Speaker 1: we take, like, you know, the legs of a duck,
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  Speaker 1: you stitch them to the body of a goose, fine,
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  Speaker 1: and then maybe stitch on the breasts of a chicken.
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  Speaker 3: It's a frankenbird. It's a franken bird. Do you know
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  Speaker 3: I'm just spitballing. I'm not saying when it becomes a
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  Speaker 3: tradition every year you eat the franken bird, and the
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  Speaker 3: kids will be like daddy, Daddy tells a story. Cut
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  Speaker 3: me another slice of the franken bird.
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  Speaker 1: Daddy's here, child.
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  Speaker 3: Well, listen, Halloween tradition is notwithstanding. We are on about
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  Speaker 3: a new tradition, which is the hardware Ship of horror,
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  Speaker 3: where we take you through a spooky tale, ideally one
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  Speaker 3: that's Irish, and I reckon we get launched into that, Tom,
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  Speaker 3: this veil won't pierce itself, buddy, how about we get
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  Speaker 3: into this years hardware Ship of Horror, which is the
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  Speaker 3: history of loft As Hall.
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  Speaker 1: It was a fair point picking me for this one
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  Speaker 1: because I have a TV show made on this one.
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  Speaker 3: Tom is you know, doesn't like to not want to
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  Speaker 3: crow about himself as there, Tom omnny, but when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to loft As Hall, he will field your questions.
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  Speaker 1: It's true, It's true, it's it was one We did
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  Speaker 1: a TV show for the previously known TV three but
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  Speaker 1: now Virgin Media. But we did it back in the day,
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  Speaker 1: an extensive one and it wasn't just on the history
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  Speaker 1: or anything like that. We actually brought down ghost Hunters,
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  Speaker 1: Irish ghost the team Irish ghost Hunters with us and
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  Speaker 1: they had their Egan Spangler pt the whole lot and
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  Speaker 1: there's temperature gauges and they set up the whole thing
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  Speaker 1: with Infra red and what not.
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  Speaker 3: And well, I feel your demand for the job, Tom,
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  Speaker 3: certainly not me, given that just before we came on air,
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  Speaker 3: I had to google which county loft at all? Is
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  Speaker 3: in and I've been the loft this hole, I just
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  Speaker 3: forget where it was. You tell the truth. This is lies.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry is absolutely I can't believe you're even hiding from this.
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  Speaker 3: He hates Wexford, he hates.
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  Speaker 2: Tom.
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  Speaker 3: If I'd been in, if it was the last question
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  Speaker 3: on who wants to be a millionaire, I would have said,
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  Speaker 3: Loftus Hall is in County Claire. Drive out the road
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  Speaker 3: that has the Father's head house and it go on
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  Speaker 3: another one hundred yards offt this holl is there.
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  Speaker 1: That was not you.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I had in my head, because I remember
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  Speaker 3: it was myself and the missus then girlfriend now wipe
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  Speaker 3: were away for a weekend and at the time, if
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't a gig, we went to gig guy dragged
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  Speaker 3: her two. I remember we went on a trip to
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  Speaker 3: Claire and we went on a trip to obviously clearly Wexford, which.
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  Speaker 1: Is where Loftus Hall is.
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  Speaker 3: Right to some extent of my knowledge of the rest
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  Speaker 3: of this, you're going to fill this in on.
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  Speaker 1: So it's the Hook Peninsula, So be right around the
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  Speaker 1: Teddy Bears arts. We'll say, of what is Ireland built
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  Speaker 1: right out like it is right out but there was
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  Speaker 1: a building there prior that was thereby a Norman Knight
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  Speaker 1: by the name of Raymond Lacrosse. And Raymond the cheeky
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  Speaker 1: master decided, well, I've landed here. I build a castle.
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  Speaker 1: As you know, no planet, no not no on board
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  Speaker 1: fucked up a castle in eleven seventy.
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  Speaker 3: He just claimed Tom eleven seventy. So we're talking like
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  Speaker 3: like nine hundred years old if a right, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: hundred dish some nine hundred dish years just for the
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  Speaker 3: listener's discretion. It is a bank called a month. When
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  Speaker 3: we're recordings and I've been drinking for some time.
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  Speaker 1: He's still nipping. He's still nipping. In fairness out ray
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to be brought into Irish society, so he
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  Speaker 1: actually named himself Redmond. He changed it to Redmond, his surname,
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  Speaker 1: not le Grosse. He went to Redmond, so he became
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  Speaker 1: Redmond Hall or simply the Hall, the Hall, because it
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  Speaker 1: was fuck all else around, like you should see this
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  Speaker 1: place like it's what you have, but as people, if
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  Speaker 1: you're wondering, it's as BLEI is what you imagine.
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  Speaker 3: Hook Peninsula is like it's perfect for a horror movie.
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  Speaker 1: All the trees have no leaves through all blown sideways.
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  Speaker 1: There's crows like just looking at you with a fagging
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  Speaker 1: and out of the counter and the out going where bad.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say tell him even if it didn't have
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  Speaker 3: all the scary stories associated with it. As you drive
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  Speaker 3: up to or past that, you look at and go like, well,
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  Speaker 3: there's an ominous looking building. That's what I mean. There's
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  Speaker 3: feels bad.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm trying to set for people here,
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  Speaker 1: like stories aside, It's like it is a dour looking
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  Speaker 1: bastard of a building. It's a big Georgian manner that
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  Speaker 1: ended up there after the fact because it was in
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  Speaker 1: the sixteen hundred cent Redmond Hall.
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  Speaker 3: Because he had.
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  Speaker 1: Gone full Irish at this station and he was back
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  Speaker 1: in like the family. We say, he wasn't fucking five
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  Speaker 1: hundred years old whatever, but the family were gone full
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  Speaker 1: Irish back the rebels during like the Confederate Wars. The
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  Speaker 1: whole lot against him, not in Potato, not in Potato.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he was a good lad apparently, like any
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  Speaker 1: good he'd a good amount of land. He was looking
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  Speaker 1: at after him around there and yeah, did you have
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  Speaker 1: a receipt? Tom I suppose he did, didn't I suppose
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  Speaker 1: he didn't, but he did. I guess. You know, look,
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, there's there's not there's not a Budge's not
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  Speaker 1: a budge with you, because who ended up fucking him
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  Speaker 1: in the end, like he he drove back the English,
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  Speaker 1: all right, from Charles the verse, he drove them back.
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  Speaker 1: But then a couple of years later, who landed on
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  Speaker 1: what best are to landed on? Who even the English
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  Speaker 1: didn't like, like only fucking Oliver.
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  Speaker 3: Cromwell would have to be Cromwell.
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  Speaker 1: Cromwell made a deal with Cromwell. This is you see
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  Speaker 1: when things can go poisonous. This fucker's poison is just everywhere, right,
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  Speaker 1: This is a bad bastard. So he made a deal
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  Speaker 1: with him and said, look, grand you can retain your property.
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  Speaker 1: You can retain the whole lot. No, no, no bother. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you stay where you are. He was nearly seventy this stage.
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  Speaker 1: Counked died not chartly afterwards. Cromwell landing on a fucked
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  Speaker 1: out the full family fucked up, evicted a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of them.
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  Speaker 3: If you were expecting this to be a story where
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  Speaker 3: Cromwell his heart grows three sizes that day and he
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  Speaker 3: returned all the gifts to the who's of who.
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  Speaker 1: Will no flixive wrench to the end, Wrench to the end.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, like that just fucked everybody out and it
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  Speaker 1: was granted then to a crowd called wouldn't you know
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  Speaker 1: what loft us in like waiting waiting he hear the
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  Speaker 1: year he got it. He got it in sixteen sixty six.
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  Speaker 3: Mmmm, all right, Henry Loft, the legend grows.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah he got Yeah, he got
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  Speaker 1: it in sixteen sixty six. So the loft Us has
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  Speaker 1: moved in, all happy out with themselves, the whole lot
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  Speaker 1: they were there, like I said.
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  Speaker 3: The house who wouldn't be mad about it.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly and a raak of a rake of just fucking
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  Speaker 1: land with it.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Redmond got to hang on to a few bits and
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  Speaker 1: pieces around Wexford alright, and was granted other stuff because
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  Speaker 1: he went to take him to court. The family went
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  Speaker 1: to take them to court and stuff, and they were
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  Speaker 1: crummin Gordon, We're like foxic The lofts are in now,
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  Speaker 1: so they left it two leading to it. But look
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  Speaker 1: at we'll give you some shot up around then as
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  Speaker 1: guard there or something like that. They gave him fucking
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  Speaker 1: len somewhere else to shut them up. But I would
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  Speaker 1: wager that Redmond was well shot at the place because
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  Speaker 1: it just got spookier and spookier as this place want
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  Speaker 1: on not least that Henry Lofts moved into it in
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  Speaker 1: sixteen sixty six. Jesus, of all the years to move in.
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  Speaker 1: Would you not leave it after sixty seven? No?
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  Speaker 3: A lot of boys wouldn't buy a thirteen red car.
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  Speaker 3: This is it, This is it. Asian people got a
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  Speaker 3: sixteen sixty six red house. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well I
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  Speaker 3: say he bought it, Tom Yeah, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, that was given him that like the the ball,
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  Speaker 1: like when I was reading it again because I I
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  Speaker 1: I talked to the owner of that time. He was
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  Speaker 1: it was just and then it was given to him
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  Speaker 1: and I was given to him.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like given.
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  Speaker 4: Given who gets given nepo house and never never a
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  Speaker 4: house and thousands of acres like you just here you
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  Speaker 4: go like the when you do think of it in
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  Speaker 4: the physical property of it, you're danding away with.
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  Speaker 1: You a couple of cattle and the next thing, some
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  Speaker 1: fell in tweed comes pandering down the field. You hello,
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  Speaker 1: I own you now, well, don Petty.
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  Speaker 3: So nothing like this happens in the world of daytime, No,
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  Speaker 3: nothing at all.
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  Speaker 1: Never. You can never say anything like that happening in the.
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  Speaker 3: World, you know, land Malfees in society. I'm not hearing
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  Speaker 3: many scary stories coming out of this, even though I
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  Speaker 3: am incredibly angry right now.
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  Speaker 1: So because the Hook Peninsula is a hoo of a
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  Speaker 1: place like for boats, they will It's been well known.
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  Speaker 1: It is ragged all many about and sank many a
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  Speaker 1: fucking ship. And what has happened in the past and
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  Speaker 1: during this time.
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  Speaker 3: Upen too.
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  Speaker 1: It's like always like people dying and whatnot. But by
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  Speaker 1: the time it got to the it got to the
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  Speaker 1: Tottenham family, which again was a spin. There was a
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  Speaker 1: spin of a marriage there that was it wasn't gift
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  Speaker 1: to the Tottenhams. There was a spin of a marriage
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  Speaker 1: with the loftuses and stuff. So by the time we
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  Speaker 1: got to the eighteen hundreds, there was a Marquis I
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  Speaker 1: guess you call it Eli wherever the fuck that is.
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  Speaker 1: They refurbished it, go seed it up the whole lot
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  Speaker 1: and they were happy out they were there. There was
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  Speaker 1: missus and mister Tottenham's with their daughter and they were
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  Speaker 1: they were happy people. And then there's one evening storm.
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  Speaker 1: Of course who storm came in boat crashes. Now, normally
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  Speaker 1: if a boat crashed and people survived, the whole lot
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  Speaker 1: and would come up to the Tottenham family. And apparently
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  Speaker 1: they were quite good because there was nothing else around.
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  Speaker 1: They were quite good at putting people up for a
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  Speaker 1: night or two.
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  Speaker 3: Given if you go to a loft this house now
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  Speaker 3: Tom Loftus Hale, there's nothing around it.
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  Speaker 1: Two D no nothing. And this is a perfect example
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  Speaker 1: of what.
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  Speaker 3: Four hundred years ago. There was definitely nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Now imagine no tarmacd road. You're not going to see
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  Speaker 1: the lights of a car coming near you. Windy as fuck,
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  Speaker 1: like storm blowing you just you're just blown up on
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  Speaker 1: the beach, Cropper Frankensteins storm. You get rolled up on
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  Speaker 1: the beach, your boats and ship, you've lost your phone.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fucking nightmare. But they were always kind of
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  Speaker 1: good to shipwrecks, you know that kind of way, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so they up they brought it anyway. And this one
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  Speaker 1: particular evening, now I do need to tell you right,
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  Speaker 1: So there was the lord he married and loft Us.
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  Speaker 3: So that's who Tottenham. How he ended up getting it.
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  Speaker 1: His wife died and had died before, and he remarried
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  Speaker 1: his his cousin Jane Cliff Charles and.
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  Speaker 3: Ann had six Now his cousin.
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  Speaker 1: Like, these are already things are we're up to you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thankfully, No cousin Marion going on in
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  Speaker 3: the landed gentry, the no nothing at all, you know,
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  Speaker 3: hence they're declining chin.
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  Speaker 1: As it's known. But anyway, they had a dad, six children.
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  Speaker 1: But there was the one of the girl. One of
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  Speaker 1: them was Ant who was a well thought of girl
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  Speaker 1: and whatnot. In this particular evening, a boat. Now you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be out in a handy boat off hook like
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  Speaker 1: off hook, you wouldn't the Irish like you just wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have to hope peninsula. So typically it's always going to.
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  Speaker 3: Be a gallon of men.
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  Speaker 1: Well, in this one particular occasion, this bloke comes up
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  Speaker 1: soaking wet, good looking fellow by all accounts, comes up
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  Speaker 1: stop and wet. You know, like your average eighties teen
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  Speaker 1: movie where he's.
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  Speaker 3: Standing modern heights looking dude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, even a team movie is like,
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  Speaker 1: oh man, we gotta get you out of those with things.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, so he's standing at the door and in
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  Speaker 1: they come right and you know, immediately they're all just
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  Speaker 1: drawn to They're like, fucking hell, who's this like? Because
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  Speaker 1: he was so have probably smelt alright, do you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? That was a big thing that went.
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  Speaker 1: He made a great impression on him and everybody, this
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  Speaker 1: fella slick making. Yeah, but I would wager novel that
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  Speaker 1: could come down to a fella smelling alright, because meant everybody,
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  Speaker 1: gentry aside, everybody smelled like the Brown Band, do you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Back in them days.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to assume if this man had, you know,
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  Speaker 3: at least half of his original teat he was off
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  Speaker 3: to a good start.
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  Speaker 1: He was the George Clooney of the time.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the huge
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  Speaker 3: ackman of Penelsa.
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  Speaker 1: So the as the very famous story goes, and there's
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  Speaker 1: more than this, particularly this is the most famous one
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  Speaker 1: of them all. There was a game of cards we played,
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  Speaker 1: because what else you gotta do? Yesunk isn't hasn't been
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: invented at the time, and monopoly is pointles.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: With a group of people who get gifted properties. I mean,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: you know, like what's the fun of a game where
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: all you do is charge rent until the native populace
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: can't pay it, and then you just let them die and.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: They die in the ditch or end up going on
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: a coffine ship to the other side of the sitting room.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who could never returned and you get all the
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: money back.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: This this sounds like a wolf tone song this episode
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: more than anything else.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: So this this haven't even gotten all the bad stuff yet.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: This particular night, they're playing I'm guessing twenty one or
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: something and this stranger. Yeah, but this stranger, he's on
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: dealing this strange shipwreck winds were hot looking bastard with
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: his stylish sidelines, No doubt he's no at this stage.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: He's stayed a couple of days at this stage, like
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: he's into.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna like him up. If I come out of
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: the water with a short turn and I went into
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: a house with a with a with a coming young lady,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I'm wearing that short every day, but I'm not scrubbing
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: up and just blending into the walls. Don't you don't
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: forget me the winds web stranger, don't you know?
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, you want that, you want that snapshot continuously. Okay, right, yeah,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you know lads.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: You know that the lads shorts that they can get it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: You pay all right, fair enough see that.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you see the leads just on a Sunday clean snickers,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: like we get it. You have a job, nice good,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you're a good you're a good one. Great.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: So you came here from okay, all right, fair enough.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Good less good leads. So and on this one, so
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: they delta the two parents three each three to the dealer,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and and had noticed she'd only gotten two cards. She's
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: like tiff and she was about to say something when
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: she cops that the card I'm guessing she was to
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: be dealt have flown out to the floor, is down
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: on the floor. So down she reaches for the card.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: What else can be there?
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: You're gonna look down, maybe planning on a bit of
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: foot see, maybe you're gonna just check out the package.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe underneath you're gonna get the look earlier. And as
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: she reaches down, she picks up the cards, just does
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a double take, looks and looks again because kind of
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: light wouldn't have been great, you know, even with.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: She sees not a boot, not.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: A fucking regular foot, not a slipper, not a fucking
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: crock nothing. She looks straight at and I know what
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about here, A cloven hoof for a I.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Mean, I've got to say two cloven hooves.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: To she the one she just saw from the outside.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: She only claimed to see one. I've got eight of
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: them on my property right now, and those bastards are
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: of the devil. But and I don't know had Ane
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: been on the fuck of wine or what, but she
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: pipes up, She's like, immediately you've got a cloven foot.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: You've got a foot, excuse me.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: A handsome stranger. The fuck's up with your foot?
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Thereby no time to explain, No Jesus Christ, almighty. I'm
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: here fucking two days and you didn't mention a thing
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: of me clip clapping around the fucking house. And now
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: you're going to say it in front of your parents.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Could we not have waited? No?
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Nothing O playing cards and I'm on a hot streak.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he freaks out, stands up and like a fucking
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: bottle rocket goes straight through the ceiling, out through the floor,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: up through joyce and out through the roof of the house,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: which I can verify to this day the spot where
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: it's apposed to have happened still a hole in the ceiling,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: still holding the roof they left them there.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I'm interrupted for a joke, Tom, Do you think it'll
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: be a good name for an Irish roof or James joists.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't do it?
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Not?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the thing is technically the roof would be
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: doing much in the way joyce.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Then that's first ever let fax get in the way
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: of ship joked.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Other than that, it's a great fucking joke. It's a
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: great joke.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Okay. So so our clevelnd hooves stranger that was washed
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: up on the shores of Hook Peninsula on one stormy night,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: went up and was catching the fancy of the lady
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: of the house, and they were playing you know, twenty
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: five or whatever it will be, and herself drops a
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: card and looks down. My man's has got cloven hoofs
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: for feet, which would be a sign traditionally of the
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: d V the devil, the devil he sprung rotten from
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: this account, or rather than play it off and be like,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: oh that's that's from the war, he's just.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Like all right, peace out, bitches, and see us and
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: busts up through the scene.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: See I was one like what for me?
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: They that was the that's the hook of the whole store,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: of the whole story the place. Now there's a bit
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: more to go here. But I often wondered, let's say
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: it's real, right happened. Let's suspend this, believe people because
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: we weren't there, you know, I mean, I dare say
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: stranger things have happened, or at least straight injured? Are
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: weirder things have been seen? Right?
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: You know? Who are we to call the land and
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: gentry liars? Exactly? And I'm wondering what was his plan?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Like what was his was like? Was that like like how.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Was he walking around the cloven hooves but just shut
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: hiding it well in his boots. But had he like
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: kicked off his boots, you know, like in witches when
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: their feet unfurrowed feet, don't they Yeah, so their feet
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: on further, like you know yourself, you come back in
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: after a long day, you have you have like a
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: hot shower or something like, oh fuck? Was he the
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: same way going?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I'm having I'm having a game of cards year Now
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I can relax a wee bit.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And also he's probably going you know what, I think
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: at some point maybe two hands, three hands in, I'm
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: gonna mention my feet and I'm gonna show them. I'm
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: gonna ease him into it. The fucking end balls ends
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: up sucking blown cover. You know what I mean? Completely,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you spot up early, shoot shooting the shot way too early,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and that he did had a freak out. I I
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe the guy was mister Tumblas, who knows.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Well, do you know? Do you know? Like? Okay, so
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: he bust up through the roof, Tom, I want to
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: talk to you. You said that you can verify this because
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: you have been in office, holl And now I've seen
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: this whole.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Now the joists are still. He didn't blow out of
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: fucking joyce. He managed to nail the spot right. He
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: got it's sixteen inch centers right, and you know, so
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: he's got a gap about three fifty mili, which is
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: a fucking deep man, But people were a tinner back then.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Jer that's the only thing. If you turn sideways you
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: would get through it, all right.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: He clipped the shoulder.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: You clip the shoulder, So that's a fourteen inch gap, right.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Some little fucking pencil neck of a dude, but you're
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: look at it was the fucking sixteen hundred star do
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Who was a fucking tank back then? Like, who's you
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: know for.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: The Monkey Island fans out there? This is more of
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: a gay brush three pood looking dude than a big
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: fucking burly Henry Cavill looking champ. Yeah, oh no, I'm thinking.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: You know, there was a phase there a year or
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: two ago where all all the starlets will say that
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the absolute doses shiite, from the Kardashians to these fuck hads.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: They were all going for fellows that looked half dead
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: like machines. Yeah, machine gun Kelly, that fucking other what's
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: that other douchet Pete Davison like he's you know Barker exactly.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: All lads who looked like there on fucking death's door.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: They looked like a pull through for a rifle. As
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: they say, up.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Way, if they one art streak could do them, do
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like and these fellas like
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: if if I'll be honest with just some of them,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: like like Sair Travis Barker, if I look down his
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: foot was so just as shite and it was a
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: hope I got.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like that'd beut what I was expected. Yeah,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: but okay, so you did you see like an actual
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: hole in the joice because I'm thinking in four hundred
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: years they couldn't get I know, had it's hard to
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: get a chippy. That was my first question.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: And they didn't really enjoy it on the TV show,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: But producers did leave it in. I think they left
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: it in anyway because I was being a bits in
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: a I won't lie.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: And I'm like Jesus Christ and four hundre years there's
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: more uncommon time.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, in four hundre years, I wouldn't get
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: tired of that.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: You up?
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: And they did. They put a patch to the roof,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: all right, but they didn't want to fully fix it
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: because they ah, yeah, I know. Look, do you know
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: what Tom, All I'll say is if in my house,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: at some stage the Christian devil.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Busts up through the roof, I'd leave the hole there
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: for a while.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: To show people, do you know.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I mean? It's a story, right, It's a story.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: It's a story. And I'll be honest people in recent
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: years and make quite an a lot of money out
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: of this story, right, So the whole thing being is
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: that or maybe they just didn't want to touch it. No,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: how do you know you send a wireless or send
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a telegram to somebody of the other roofer or a plaster,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I should say, And it's it's it's you know, it's
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Latin fucking nightmare stuff. Youve gotta get specialists down to
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: do it. And he first question is, what, how the
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: fuck did that happen? There's no water damage, right, Okay,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: funny story, right, this guy lands in a couple of
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. He's got fucking hooves shoots up through it
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: like focus Superman or fucking Iron Man when he's an
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: amasion blos what back up the truck there, now? Did
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: you see the fucker at hooves? He did? Yeah, yeah,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not going next to fucking near that with my trouls.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Forget about that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: And also it's a fucking twelve foot high ceiling. I
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: have to bring in all sorts of focus.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I don't this cavern for that now. And you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm a little bit superstitious to go fixing up
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: a holemade by mister Scratch himself.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: No, you'll be all right, No, exactly so there's that
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: argument in my head.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go nobody's fucking going touching that bastard. I
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: have enough to be at it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I have enough to be at There's a holes galore
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: that youngsters have just put their foot through in other land,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the gentry houses that I'm the finest, and so you do.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I can draw a healthy wage, fixing door kicked in
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: by bailips. I don't need this money, thank you, sir so,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: and not for nothing as well. And I didn't want
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: to say this earlier. Now, this is a house that's
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: built nine hundred years ago, and they're like five hundred
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: years So this house is five hundred years while they're
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: in a tom Okay, So what was this to say
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: is we're not looking at an energy rating above f here.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: No, No, the b R wouldn't be hectic on something
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: like this. What's another hole? An Im Martal some lyrics
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: of Linda Martner Johnny logo, which logan that would be
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: a very different Judy, Judy, you've lost your fucking mind.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Johnny. You're winning, You're winning over the German crowds in
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: the ear in your vision.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: But that's about it, buddy. You can't you can't do this, Judy,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: you can't. You can't, you can't you get tell.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Twelve points from the Greeks, Buddy.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: As air By. Jenians are really not really into it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: So okay, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna hold my cynicism
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: for a little while. Tom. But that's a scary story,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I gotta tell you. And if that indeed.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Happened, ice on bikes, Now there's there's the story didn't end.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Then there where the sadness, the sadness and the fucking creepiness.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: This probably is. This is where it got creepier for
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: me because on the TV show The Room that I'm
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: about to tell you about, the tapestry room and daughter
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and her favorite room, it was fucking creepy, man, it
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: was creepy.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: There were his favorite room was the tapestry room. And
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: telling you, man, screen addiction is not a new thing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: No's she's just swiping all she's just swiping taper tries across.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Just looking at things. And I will tell you, no,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: kid doesn't love looking at things. Addiction is nothing new.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: It's just a hundred fucking tapestries on a roll, just
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: spinning them around, just a burn.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, next thing, you know, it's three o'clock in the morning,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Like fuck, I work in the morning.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: So at this stage, right, we'll go back to We're
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: going to jump forward to go back. So in eighteen hundred,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the owner of the whole day a descendant of of
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: all of them and all the rest of the old crowd.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: But they were doing a bit of a refurbishment. They
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: were tiding up the place, right, they're coming across this
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: scenario and whatnot, and like it's up, You're you're into
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: like eighteen seventies. At this point, they made an awful
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: discovery while that hacking open the wall in the tapestry room,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: they found the boons the skeleton remains of an infant
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: buried in the wall.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Now some optimal This definitely not wine comedy out of
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: this one time.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Well you also, it's not something you'd be putting on
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the you know, the sheriff. It's yerl listing either, you
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, additional hole in the wall.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Put a venient burial spot.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Now I'm going to jump back right because and never
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: recovered from that night the fright of Senor Man's legs, right,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: she was fucked up, lost her mind, and they locked
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: her away in the tapestry room because look, it kept
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: her frocking quiet the screen time, as you said, with
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the table.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know you can. You can lock me
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: up wherever you want if I have the phone.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: But she's just stare out the window all day long,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: stopped eating, stopped drinking the whole lotch finally died, you
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, she just went under.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: That's but.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: They said that the body was so stiff they could
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: not lie it down the riga Martis was so stiff
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that they couldn't even lie it down to the barrier
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: in a seated position. I mean, that's an expensive coffin,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: do you know what I mean. Yeah, people believe that
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: they found this is where they were like, well, there's
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: nowhere else with that baby's remains have come from throughout
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the years, because there didn't seem to be any other
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: troubled daughter young women there. Yes, the feeling is that
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: it was most likely the daughter of the fucking handsome
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: stranger had his way with Anne, kept his fucking late.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: It probably kept his socks on obviously, I mean during
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the whole thing, like or just just about got his pantaloons.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Off trying to snuff the candles out, turning exactly exactly.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: But they reckon that the parents, the family probably killed
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the child and buried in the wall for fear of it.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Been so how long was in? How long was Anne
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: opening the room?
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: We don't know. I mean, if she's how long is
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: she going to last? You know what I mean, she's
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a hunger striker, like, how long is she going to last?
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe to bear a child?
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: It seems bit by bit, yeah, bit by bit, I'm
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: getting she went off. The groupe went off the water.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: But they reckoned that. That was the thing that I mean,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: if you're going to say somebody lost their mind and
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: never recovered, that's not a week, that's a year at least,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Him that the family of around this time their daughter
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: was made pregnant by a stranger and the family hushed
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: it up and locked her in a room by ourselves
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: was probably the most believable part of the story.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but they're I mean, one infant
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: remains were found. This is not do you know what
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: everybody holding the sealing and all the rest of it.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: But that a paternity test here? Now, what what did
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: the feat look like on this child. See this is
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: the team, Okay, Devin told us curious but curious.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: But they are saying the the the the feeling was
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: that she was rightly taken with this fella, Like I mean,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: they all fairness, jure, she ain't say much. Talent's walking
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: up the fucking beach, like this isn't fucking summer bay,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, one of.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: The all of a sudden, this fucking noodle armed looking
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: lad comes up the way.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like there ain't no fucking hymns words out fucking
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: surfing in.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: The sixteen hundred five pounds of them.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: That's him. So can wet the tramp, right, But now
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: there has been that even even go back to the
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: eighteenth century, like there was they did do. He was
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: a father Thomas Brothers. He was brought in to perform
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: an exorcism and after sort to cleanse the place. But
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: he was like, I don't have the guns for this.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: But it seems to be just negative vibes based on
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: this one event. The handsome stranger washes up on the shores,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: has the alliance with the daughter, she gets locked away
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: and he bottle rockets through the fucking roof. Yeah, not
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: the first time he shot off in that house, it seems.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: But this is the problem, this is the problem. It
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: would seem that he left negative vectoplasm splashed all over
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the place, and that's where he should have left it,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: rather than leaving it. You know, we pour all in.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: But all right, okay, so this is this is this
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: is to me like a very tragic story. It's a
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: fucking horrific story with a hint of supernatural. Yeah, maybe
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: in the middle of it.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, they could have back pedaled them and read,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I got herself in trouble, as they say
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: back in the day, and they're like, she went fucking
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: because your man just did a fucking leger.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Yes, you know Apollo thirteen as the Games.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe, Yeah, he absolutely pulled the parachute and got out
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: of there. And then they're like, yeah, he was the
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: fucking devil. He was the devil, didn't.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: You don't want to they don't want to raise an
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: little illegitimate Now.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Here's what creepy fucks are burying the baby in the wall.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: You live by the ocean. I'm not I'm not giving
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: pointers as to what way you should dispose disposed of
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: a fucking body. But Jesus fucking Christ, when you don't
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: bury it in the fucking wall, we're bastards who's doing little.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: That's a little.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: But then of the time they were starting more and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: more places off the landage entry were so fucking bored
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: because you was your health, fire clubs and everything and
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: all the rest of it. We have our fucking Butler's
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Butler family in their downt care castle. They were all
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: going into the occult ship. They were just loving it.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: They really had nothing else to do, right, not data
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: all the nothing to do, and all day for doing it,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with the cunts.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: So not not for nothing as well, Tom to your
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: point as well, you know the perfectly good ocean there
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: you have by your count town, any thousands of acres
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: of land that was given to you. You don't want
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: to keep banging on that drum, buddy, Well, you couldn't
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: find one place other than the walls of the pantry.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: They bury this kid. I'm sorry, Okay, go.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: On, But since then anyway, even this fellow was very
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: renowned exorcist that went into the place and he's like,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: there's this.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Place is fucked up. I don't have boots with this hike.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: He just he backed up. He's like, this place is
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: fucked up. The port guy's activity out the yin Yang.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I guess he probably made a note with the Vatican.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: But the Vatican were like, it's fucker Wexford, you're ground.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? If it was somewhere of
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: a fancier maybe, but they left it off right.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: We'll get round it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: We'll get round we will.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: We'll come back next time in the area.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Now, it's no doubt sure you could go rooting for
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: great stories. And then I think that story of the
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: devil and the clover and foot, it pops up in
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: a few places, but the baby be buried in the wall.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Time back into that story makes it all more fucked up.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: So I would, I'd say it's.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: A lot less who knows, who knows? We don't know, right,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: but here's where a great one. And with when a
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: fellow knows he's looked out right, we'll jump forward to
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: more or less modern day right now, Like I said,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I did a TV show that must have been two
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: thy fifteen sixteen. It's it's it's far backing off. But
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: if anybody wants to go find it, go look my
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel. It's got huge views on huge view Tom.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: People love ghosts. I'm kind of hoping that's what spikes
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: the listenership of this episode.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm put more than anything about the views.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: People have watched it all the way through and are
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: raw one with each other in the comment section, like, okay,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you have that. But anyway, I remember speaking with the
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: owner Aiden, and nothing, there's nothing like if you and
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I just had a ghostly picture we posted of our
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: front porch right or front hall or whatever you go.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: What's mcbrider many at right? But of course being left
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: us hall. It's a great spot anyway, And on this
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: particular occasion, I aiden, the owner was away. Now he
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: had it opened as a tourist spot. He had actors,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: he had tour guides, he'd amazing. He this twin to
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: twin girls working and they would rotate out of things.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Oh it's brilliant, and they show up in the dark
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: beside people's face and stuff. Brilliant, brilliant stuff. But he's
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: away on a fact finding mission somewhere and then next thing,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: his phone starts blowing up, blowing up like early days
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: of social media. But Facebook is going fucking Gangbusters. He's like,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: what has happened? So twenty fourteen, this guy takes a
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: photograph chap from from England. It was on holidays, you know,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: don't pull back and me out here. He's he was
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: a holidaymaker. Yeah, I know you're going, oh.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bet you.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: He's looking to take the place again. Yeah, yeah, happen
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: to be in English that holiday making with a couple
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: of his bodies. Twenty one year old Thomas Beavis.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Right, I'm not okay, I'm gonna.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just dropping these on right here by the way.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: And he's he's feeling that I came to this one fresh.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Now, he's feeling the skin off his face here. What
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the amount of times he wants to jump in, But
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: we do have to do an extra show. So he
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: takes a picture right now, this is a one in
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: a million picture. He takes a picture I'm guessing it
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: was about and takes it back, gets it developed the
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: whole last twenty fourteen. Maybe he didn't have a camera phone,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: he wasn't really checking on it, and it wasn't until
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: he gets home and lo and behold in the porch,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: which is you know, stepped out maybe six foot by
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: six foot, Yeah, windowed porch. There's a load of people
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: outside on a lovely sunny day in Wexford. But in
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the glass, in the reflection, there's ah, what looks like
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a ghost. But at first he's like as a reflection,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, that's none of the women standing anywhere
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: near this. And they had it looked at by experts
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and never and there's the head of an older woman
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: floating beside this young girl as a young girl for sure, right,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and they're going.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: This and and and the mother is a whatuff?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: And this did the rounds like experts look at this
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: photograph and they're like, fuck, okay, it is nobody. There
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: is nobody near that. And it's not a fake reflect
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: That is a reflection. That is something big. That's an
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: image held in the glass like for sure, that is
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: not too proposed onto the photograph. That's not a drawing.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: That's not been tampered with. That's as it was on
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the day that was verified.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: It must be said, Tom, I google that photo now
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: and I'm looking at it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: It is spooky as fuck. It is spooky as fuck,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: right it is, And especially with your twenty twenty five eyes,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: you're looking at it when I've seen this ton of
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: cool shit. This was a photograph for I'm guessing your memory,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a clickie clcke photograph. It was probably on a film which.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: You bought in the chemist earlier. Today.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: You can't fuck with him. It is what it is.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: You take the photograph and what it was there, and
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the honesty of that.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: It's not that a spooky and I will say, I'm
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: not gonna throw explanations for that one in front of anybody,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: but here's the thing, so.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: It comes clean with us, and he says it was
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: by all accounts right when they did. They went back
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: through security cameras and everything. It was a one in
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: a million shot. And that's what that's what a photographer
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: expert sendat him, like the angler got that managed to
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: reflect in the most You couldn't fucking you couldn't stand
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: in the right position. So I want you to imagine
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: you have your hallway leading out into a porch full
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: of glass, or right at the time, we'll say Tom
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Beavis was outside, maybe having a fag in the fire
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: end of the car park. Gotcha, takes a snap right
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: at that time. Now, he took up maybe at a
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: forty five gre angle to the porch. Let's say, let's
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: say sixty feet back. Now, there was a girl and
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: a woman in the hall in the house. They were
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: actually in the house at the time, in the hallway,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: not in the porch, and their faces were reflected off
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: of a to of the panes by the front door. Okay,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: but in a one in a million angle that he got.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: That reflection was bounced one way and then bounced another way,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and so those two women their images were refracted twice
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: in the porch for him to catch it on his camera.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Like you couldn't fucking do this with all the movement
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and the stepping up and stepping down. He just happened
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: to be in the right spot right time they were too.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: It was a young woman and out one's fucking floaty head.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: It was absolutely beautiful.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: But you know, like I would say, ninety nine percent
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: of ghost stories that we heard Tom are relying on
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: one in a million occurrences. Yeah, just the moment that
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: the wind blew through an empty coke can that had
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: rolled down the road and got jammed underneath a log,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: and that caused a little photos like this. This photo
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: also seems to have relied upon the people in the
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: picture that got reflected twice at an impossible angle, and
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: just that split second being dressed like fucking ghouls. Yeah
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: you're not wearing you know, a Celtic away top. But
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I can't remember. It was that far back,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: but these easily could have been guides.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: He had actors working in their.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Wearing fucking ben folds but five T shirts.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's true, you know it's true.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: But they just appeared to be wearing like, you know,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: googlish girl with a paarliering kind of fucking outfits. So yeah,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: it was just the day the two Armish people came
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: over to visit office whole.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Pentecostal fucking birds are just hanging
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: around with their fucking five other wives. That are one guy. Yeah,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: that was actually Thomas who was out there just waiting
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: on the girls to come out, waiting. Wis know what
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: it is?
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: It's never, it's never once in a million, forty five
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: degree reflection through two panes of glass and person that's
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: that's caught in it as a chap dropping off just eat.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: You know, here's a ghoulish guy with a large square
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: box on his back. What could it represent no, no, that's
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: fucking just d yeah, back in it.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Just a fun, fun, fun, a bit of fun. The stairwell,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: the stairways that's in it. Have you heard this one?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: You heard the keep talking. So the stay staircase that's
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: in loft and so it is stunning. Again, if you
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: want to go look at that on my YouTube channel,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: just look for loft so you'll see Aiden being interviewed
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: by the staircase.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: It is unbelievably well made, like fucking brilliant.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Like when the rest of the building has fallen down
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: around him, this thing it's still standing. It's amazing. It's oak.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's oak. What else would stand that kind
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: of fucking that that the test of time.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: But I'm looking at an aw tom and it really
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: looks like the It looks like the Titanic staircase, which
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: I guess was you know, to coin a phrase from
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: the Simpsons, to borrow a phrase from the Simpsons, was
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: the style at the time.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you mentioned that year because by all
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: accounts it is the stairs from the Titanic. Not that
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: it is the stairs from the Titanic, but the guy
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: that built that loft us all, and there's.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: One in the same time frame.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: It is Junderally Furbishments the late eighteen hundreds. Yeah, whoever,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: the same designer staircase or whatever his name was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: So by the they reckon the third one because he
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: only did three to that magnitude, to that size, and the.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Third one is in the Vatican. So hmm, this.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Could it could be a load of bollocks or could
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: be one hundred cent through. How are we going?
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: You ain't going down?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: We saw what happened to the last let's trying to
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: go down to the Titanic for look. Yeah, sure ship
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: aren't getting into too the to the one in the
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Vatican for us either.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: See the Lives of the Truth Tom not seen in
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: the middle ground here.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: But you no, But you know what, It's a great
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: place to put yourself, isn't it. If you're like, call
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: me out, bro, call me out. There's one in the Vatican.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: There's one at the bottom of the ocean. I'm telling
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: you where they are go fucking Look.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: You're like genius.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: You may tell me there's one on the moon. You
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: I can't look it.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: But you're can. But yeah, there's that that was still
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: one and aid wasn't backing up.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: But at that time I'm like, come on, but like,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: you know, with that being said, if it is a
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: type the same staircase that was built by the same
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: dude put the staircase in the Titanic, to put the
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: staircase in the Vatican, if that is true, Tom, to that,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: I say.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: So hot, I guess that it adds intriguer. It isn't
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: the like, it isn't the stairs put in you know,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: some you know, fucking.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: But it's not like you know, it's not like yes,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: don't know, the staircases and in the Titanic are wrecked
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: with tragedies, so there's some and then the staircase in
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: the Vatican seems just fine. Everybody's just fucking dandy over there.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: In actual fact, that staircase couldn't be in a better place.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Do you know what done? If this, if it's a
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: complete lie, it's a perfect lie because you can verified verified,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: do you know.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: What, Tom, is not the best lie I heard this weekend.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, but at the same time, but you
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: know what, it's not the best lie I've told this weekend.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: If it is saying, say, let's say it's true, and
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: you like you wanted to like it's some selling point.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: If you're if you're selling that property, Holy shit, I
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: mean it is.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Just like you know, I don't know much about the
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: stained glass Tom, but I know that Harry Clark. That's
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: a good stained glass dude. He's done a lot of
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: stained glass around the country. And I was like, well,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: don't you know this church has Harry Clark? Went it
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: was okay, fair.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Enough, everything's a good brand.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: That's got a fucking seamous mcgilla Cuddy's staircase in it,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: you know, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah. So since then aiden.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: That chapter I talked of, he's actually they sold it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: They sold it in twenty twenty one to an unknown buyergure.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Now spooky unknown.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Well do you know what you would when it comes
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: to laught us all you'd always like it would be
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: it's newsworthy for even the worst hack out there? You
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: go Tuesday, who bought off us? All right, let's just
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: run do it right up on that.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Give give you five on words on it. We'll get
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: You know you would like you do it, But it's
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to be public knowledge as to who's
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: after buying it. Could it be the Vatican? Could it
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: be I don't know, Russell Crowe. Who could it be
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that has bought it?
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Could someone tells me it's.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Some fucker with kippy clappy who's gonna come run up
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: up the road some evening after a while out for
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: a jog outside his new fucking digs.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: I think it was just rolled into a trench is
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: tough and sold off to some vulture fund quite the
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: purposes of this bit. Yes, you're right, sir, could.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Be anybody vultures?
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Where would you ever see them? On you? Over carrying?
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Tom? I have two
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: tearies here I want to put to you. Ye has
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: to not necessarily while off This hole is considered so spooky,
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: But just why these stories come through and it tends
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: to be a spooky old mansion m H. And I
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: haven't done that, you know, my due diligence with this research,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: and I have been drinking for a good portion of
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: this data good, But I'm going to put it to
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: you that there's there's such a thing of as transitional spaces.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Are you familiar with them.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Are you talking now? Yeah, from one like from a
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: hall to end of the hall.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Exactly, known, from one place to another. That's just a
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: little bit off. That's just a little bit spooky where
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: the human being just doesn't feel at ease because you're
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: not in a room and you're not in another room.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: You're just in this sort of midway space you're passing through.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Train stations are weird. Hallways are weird. Like you leave
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: you're you're sitting watching TV with the missles, and you
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: go to get something from the kitchen and you go
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: out into the hallway and you're like, I don't like
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: being here. It's not where I want to be. It's
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: not where I want to go back to. It's just
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: a fucking weird.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Place, right.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. A band and keeps starting doing that to people
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: and room to improve. Yeah, he's doing he's doing it.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: You know, nothing for the mental health of this we're
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: creating known as liminal spaces, and as best that I
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: understand those to be, Tom, that's just a weird place,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: a place like just the place we don't feel yourself.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: The best example that people point to is we ever
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: in a shop after it closed?
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Meant to be here. Yeah, do you know what I mean?
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: It's like school school on a Saturday. We ever in
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: a night club in the data I was delivering it
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: something or just putt.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I've acted in things and I always went to I
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: should we should be doing this out in the car park.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: It's just a little bit weird. And you know, recently
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: a good example of it would be for a lot
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: of people that we went we went to the polls
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: last week here in Ireland and all of our voting
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: takes place inmary schools for the fucking reason. So being
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: in a primary school in the evening where there's no children,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: it's just it just feels fucking weird, right, okay, right, right,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: So there's all these kinds of spaces that people are
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: just going to naturally not feel at ease. And a
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: place like Loftus Hall is just basically a fucking hall.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: It's in the name, buddy, where do I? Where do
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: I sit down? There's no it's a hall. As you
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: walk into it, it's got that big open hall with
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: the staircase and doors all over the place, and immediately
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: you're naturally going to feel ill at ease there, right,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: that's just what I'm going to tell you. I personally,
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: where I'm coming to all this from is I always
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: thought that there was something weird about where I was from,
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: up around the border, and it's because there's a border there, buddy,
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: there's a border. We live on the border, an invisible
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: wall that separates us on them, and I've lived there
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: for forty fucking years. Like I'll tell you, I can
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: drive across border or be driven across the border with
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: my eyes closed, and I'll tell you we've just crossed
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: the border. No man's lend. You just feel it. You
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: just feel that you've gone from here to here, because
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: it's just like a switch in your head. And likewise
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: when you walk into the office hall, it's like something's
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: not right here.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Well that was the genuinely they for anybody wondering going,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, the time where you just pisstaken. I did
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: a bit of piss taken on the TV show because
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: that's what they fucking hired me to do. But genuinely,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I couldn't argue with some of And I've been in
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: breaks of houses, old houses that were refurbishing that I
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: was putting in price as far pulling down this house,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: and I'll be honest, I was fairly ignorant to any
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: of it, Like you know what I mean.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: It was I was literally finding out.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Look. We drove down with an english woman who was
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: honestly one of the most terrifying drivers I've ever been
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: a lovely woman. But she drove me down and I
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: was like, she justus wept. We're not a good room
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: lofts all, buddy, she fucking.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Lives will get you.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: We're taking the lang Way, We're going via in us.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, this is this is my theory.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: So for liminal spaces, transitional space is all this kind
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: of thing. This is this is what I'm driving towards.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: I believe tom Okay, and I have two reasons why
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: I love this all feels spooky or why all these
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: stories come from like spooky Victorian halls back in the day,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: right the Kensian eighteenth century, goddamn creepy old buildings right.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Two theeries Okay. One is all that I've just talked
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: about ladders up to. I don't believe that human beings
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: have evolved enough to be comfortable with doors at all
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: at all. I don't think I think it's I think
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: it's creepy for us. We were only five six thousand
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: years out of the caves, buddy, right, we had some
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: started covering, surely, No, I don't. I think the notion
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: of like an actual parting that swings open and takes
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: you from one space to an ex takes you from
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: inside to outside, takes you from kitchen to sitting room,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: takes you from hall to bedroom, is just a thing
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: that eerwee fucking lizard brains just have not caught up
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: with yet.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: What you'd see a lot of the big Viking halls
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, they sleep in the hall among
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: each other. There's no doors, no door to be stick
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: your stick your fucking fluid out the.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Exit to take a piece, or pissing on the floor.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Who knows even just take a second to think about
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: where you are right now. But you're in a you're
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: in a house, you're in an office, you're in whatever
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: like that, and you can you know you're safe, and
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: you're warm, and their light and there everything, and you
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: open the door and it's fucking passing rain and howl
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: and wind. I don't know that we have just one
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: hundred percent evolved to get to that yet. And you
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: go back five six hundred years, as we're doing with
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: this story, and you've got people that are living in
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: farmhouses and barns shit like this, and there's no glass,
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: no doors, no nothing like what we would have here,
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: you know, huts basically thatch roots, all this kind of thing.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: And then you go to a big house, the loftless
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: halls of this world, and it's actual wooden doors and
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: things shut and click and all this kind of thing.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I think that's going to madden people a little bit.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: That if you turn around and go oh, and by
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: the way, there's something speak about this immediately like, yeah,
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: there's something weird here, and I am going to see
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: shapes in the dark and I'm gonna hear sounds at night.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I think the around is something in one way. I
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: think the proportions are inconceivable for people. Like when you
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: walk into a room and it's got a twelve foot
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: ceiling and the door is a ten foot fucking door,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: there is no part to you that doesn't feel like
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: a tiny person near all these things. Whatever about our
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: our six foot eight doors here are eight or nine
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: foot ceilings here, There's no power to you that isn't
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: going to feel dwarfed and wrong by the size of
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: the door opening right, Like the door like you could
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: just about tolerated here, Like doors that are getting bigger,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: like doors incorrectly fucking we have doors that were given
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: to us here from a guy that was refurbing the house.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah'll take him off you. Then as soon
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: as they landed, I'm like, oh, yeah, God, come out
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: of a house from the fifties, Like I don't like
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, you wouldn't turn your arms through theirs. But
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: these were smaller people. So again, as openings, maybe as
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: evolution that's happening. Openings are getting slightly bigger, taller.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: And whatnot.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Now here's an argument, yar, why the fuck did they
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: have giant? See have a giant house, but I have
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: an extra floor? Like why have twelve foot high ceilings?
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Why have ten foot high doors? Grandeur?
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Or were people giant back when there was no photographs?
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: I think I think grandier, Yeah, definitely, But Dan and
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Gentry are not known for being shyed ironby.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: But there there's nobody could feel having to put two
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: hands to open a fucking door comfortable.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: No, No, that's that's you know what I mean. When
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: you go into a situation like that, into the big house,
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: into the grand hall, you'll find none of these stories
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: take place in a fucking barn, you know what I mean,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: in the right, very rarely. Okay. So that's one of
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: my theories as to why a lot of these ghost
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: stories happen in creepy places like loveless whole, fair enough.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: The other theory is a lot more simple, carbon monoxide poisoning.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: By carbon monoxide poisoning, I couldn't be any fucking clear
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: with this. All of these stories take place by candlelight
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: and a roaring open fire in an energy rated house
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: rated if or lower.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Do you know? I had thought about that before, right,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: But I would say they were fucking accidentally very well
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: fucking ventilated there. I would say the wind was pissing through.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: I would say borderline schizophrenia as a result of fucking
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: pneumonia was probably what was driving.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: I will say that the poor ventilation in these houses
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: are the only thing that kept them from dropping dead. Yeah,
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: like every six weeks and the next year, you know, shit, Jesus,
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: these are dead moving another landage and fuck those guys
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: died as well, so the ventilation has kept them alive.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: But they are in that house, all the dosing carbon monoxide.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: The whole lives.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: And you know, the spores of the fucking mushrooms, they
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: are most definitely.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: Black mold spores on the wall. You had all that
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: up and and every every creak of a floorboard gets
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: louder at night, buddy, Like it.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Was that wine the freshest wine that ever came out
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: of York. The animals sucking that night, Probably not and
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: could have been not. Like there was a whole period
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: there where I don't know what what what stage had
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: happened in Irish history.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: I think it was where grain.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Had spoiled, but it had spoiled in a way that
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: uh a fungus had grown in it. That was it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Basically replicated the effects of like THHC like of That
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: was That was. That was nineteen ninety one. That was
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: when all the line dance come.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: In as they're putting those strips on the back of
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: their fuck for the riots. Yeah, yeah, I thought it
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: was a good idea. They're just all tripping balls fucking
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: on shrooms that you know, you.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: Look at you look at a lot of ghost stories
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: and where they take place, and it's a big hole
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: and always always.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I think you're right. And other Irish people, and we'll
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: call them Irish people because you know, you get shipped
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: over from England to be Irish station. You're like, take
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: a step back there, Alexander.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but you know what I mean. You're
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Irish marquis here, buddy.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Irish people are burning you know, turf
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: in a giant These lads never have turf in their life,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: never havelf turf in their life, like you know what
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I mean. So, and I can tell you one thing.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: You need only go walk. You don't have to walk
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: too far around and offtsshalt and let's see too many
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: fucking trees, I'll tell you that much. They weren't burning
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: whatever they were burning, you know, they could be burning
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: cowpats for all we know. Yeah, and that's going to
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: give you some fuck ago, But yeah, I think you
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: might be right. There might have been a bit of
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: fucking tripping balls going.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: You huff all of that in a hole with one
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: hundred doors on the actual thin veil of the south
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: east coastline of Ireland, with the roaring tides outside you
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you're playing Gin Rummy with
• 1:00:16
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• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: him in wearing steel toe cap boots and I can
• 1:00:23
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• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: And you could have had a knee trembler only half
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: at our previous she could have still been a fucking
• 1:00:29
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• 1:00:32
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• 1:00:34
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• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: I mean? For nothing? Come by the story here that
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: she got fucking rattled by Benedict Cumber back here before
• 1:00:39
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• 1:00:42
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• 1:00:46
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