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A-DAMN-da, Amanda! Summer House Reunion Recap Part 2 · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 2: Hey, rain Drops. On today's episode of Reality with the King,
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  Speaker 2: we are recapping part two of the Summer House Reunion
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  Speaker 2: and I got my ladies back, Blue and Jazz HeLa.
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  Speaker 3: How's it going, girls.
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  Speaker 4: I'm triggered. I just watched it. A wave's geting my
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  Speaker 4: makeup done. I'm triggered.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's we are going to get started and
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  Speaker 2: we are going to get activated because Part two reunion
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  Speaker 2: was good. It was really good.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said.
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  Speaker 2: Earlier, the rain Drops. No, I'm a new watcher of
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  Speaker 2: this franchise. I did watch Martha's Vineyard our ip. We
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  Speaker 2: will see if you guys will get a soft reboot
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  Speaker 2: or not. But Summerhouse, the OG version, this is full
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  Speaker 2: of drama and things kicked off, Ladies, where.
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  Speaker 3: How should we start a jasmine?
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to just get into but okay, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 2: it started off with kJ speaking about, you know, his
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  Speaker 2: gas lighting father and how you know when Sierra was
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  Speaker 2: very honest speaking about being a black woman in the
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  Speaker 2: house and this season was an emotional season for her,
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  Speaker 2: not only dealing with West, but also the conversation she
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  Speaker 2: had this season about what it's like being the only
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  Speaker 2: black woman in the house at that time, navigating through
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  Speaker 2: that and then dating a white man and things of
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  Speaker 2: that nature. So, Jazz, did you feel like it was
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  Speaker 2: an important conversation that had because it really is showing
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  Speaker 2: us how this reunion and the dynamic between Amanda and
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  Speaker 2: West and Sierra, why people are really really into this.
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  Speaker 5: Was it a good conversation about kJ bringing up his
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  Speaker 5: dad and comparing that or just the race, like him
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  Speaker 5: talking about the race conversation that they had earlier in
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  Speaker 5: the season. Yeah, I do think that was a really
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  Speaker 5: important conversation, and I talked about that a couple of times.
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  Speaker 5: That conversation had me crying. I thought it was really interesting.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that I believe that it has a
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  Speaker 5: lot to do with like this current situation, Like I
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  Speaker 5: keep seeing this sentiment that like West is, yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: see your face. Wes is like doing this to Sierra
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  Speaker 5: like they're because she's black, and I'm like, well, Wes
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  Speaker 5: just likes women. Like Wes is just a fuck boy.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it's like that deep that he's purposely
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  Speaker 5: like trying to like hurt Sierra because she's black. I
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  Speaker 5: think Sierra just so happens to be black, and Wes
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  Speaker 5: is just a fuck boy. Because we've literally heard from
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  Speaker 5: Darrell who used to date Wes fuck boy Miha West's
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  Speaker 5: ex girlfriend. He's a fuck boy to her. So I
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  Speaker 5: think he's just a fuck boy. And that's kind of
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  Speaker 5: where it is. It's pretty shallow to me, but Blue
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  Speaker 5: I would love, I would love.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm surprised by that take for me. The episode
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  Speaker 4: starts where the last one ends, where Kyle looks at
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  Speaker 4: Sierra and says, you're being harsh, and she says, that's
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  Speaker 4: not my husband. That's one hundred percent about race. Race
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  Speaker 4: is actually very loud to me academically on the show.
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  Speaker 4: It's very loud the way they treat Sierra as a
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  Speaker 4: victim and the way they treat Amanda as an aggressor
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  Speaker 4: is one thousand percent like race play one on one.
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  Speaker 4: No matter what Amanda does, she is always the victim.
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  Speaker 4: No matter how righteous Sierra is, she's always harsh. Nick
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  Speaker 4: Vile literally went on the show and called Sierra and
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  Speaker 4: me aggressive even though they were both being very reasonable
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  Speaker 4: all things considered the entire episode, and painted a man
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  Speaker 4: as a damsel that's nothing to me on.
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  Speaker 5: His podcast podcast did you listen to it though? Because
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  Speaker 5: somebody I didn't listen to it, but somebody like posted
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  Speaker 5: the entire quote.
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  Speaker 4: Listen to for ye, he has calling everything but a jiggaboo.
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  Speaker 4: He gets to the line, and so for him, all
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  Speaker 4: black women who say anything that's an inconvenience are aggressive
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  Speaker 4: mammies and who are stomping their chest, and all white
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  Speaker 4: women are damsels and nobody and everybody must want them.
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  Speaker 4: So Nick has a history for several years, almost a
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  Speaker 4: decade now, on camera having racial bias. And the thing
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  Speaker 4: that really infuriated me was a man that kept trying
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  Speaker 4: to do the white woman tears thing and kept almost
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  Speaker 4: getting away with it. And it was Sierra who had
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  Speaker 4: to keep on course correcting like, no, she's here to
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  Speaker 4: be held accountable. We can't keep doing this with her.
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  Speaker 4: She was handled with such white women kid gloves. And
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  Speaker 4: even the point about Wes being a fuck boy. I've
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  Speaker 4: dealt with fuck boys before, and one thing we need
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  Speaker 4: to be honest about. When you are not the conventionally
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  Speaker 4: attractive person for whatever the reason, whether it's race, color
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  Speaker 4: for colorism, sash fat phobia, there's an extra tinge that
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  Speaker 4: you get that even a fuck boy does you differently.
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  Speaker 4: If West was talking about all the other girls, the
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  Speaker 4: one thing West has was here that he doesn't have
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  Speaker 4: with other girls is the resentment. There's a resentment that
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  Speaker 4: West has for c Era that is very specific about
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  Speaker 4: him being called racist for how he handled her. That
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  Speaker 4: is one hundred percent about race. So for me, because
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  Speaker 4: he's already admitted I resent the people who came to
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  Speaker 4: champion you, and they were championing you based on race.
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  Speaker 4: And he's already said that I have resentment that I'm
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  Speaker 4: working towards with you, and she has said, I believe
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  Speaker 4: you're doing to spite me. The spite is steeped in race.
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  Speaker 4: I can't divorce those suit from each other.
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  Speaker 2: So let's what I do want to get into. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Jazz would you like to respond to that.
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  Speaker 5: No, we can just we can disagree to disagree.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, the me what what?
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  Speaker 2: So during this important conversation, Sierra did bring up that
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  Speaker 2: the racial dynamics in the group is important to her
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  Speaker 2: to the point where she does not want to be
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  Speaker 2: friends with anybody if they're uncomfortable talking about race, you know,
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  Speaker 2: politics as relates to where we are in the world,
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  Speaker 2: and that she just now.
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  Speaker 3: Has this policy.
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  Speaker 2: Where if if, if you're my friend and you happen
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  Speaker 2: to be a white person, I need to know where
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  Speaker 2: you stand when it comes to that. Jazz, what are
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts on her declaration for that as relates.
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  Speaker 3: To her presence on the show this season?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I agree with that, and we've seen that, right,
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  Speaker 5: We saw her have the conversation that we just talked
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  Speaker 5: about like earlier in the season, So I don't I
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  Speaker 5: don't think she was being dishonest when she said that,
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  Speaker 5: And I think as far as her white friends on
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  Speaker 5: Summer House, they have been very willing to have those
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  Speaker 5: conversations with her, as evidence by the conversation earlier in
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  Speaker 5: the season, So she's yeah, I think she was being
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  Speaker 5: genuine there.
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  Speaker 2: Blue. Do you think it's important that not just for Sierra,
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  Speaker 2: but for anybody nowadays. If you are a personal color
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  Speaker 2: and see Era obviously feels that way.
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  Speaker 3: Is that something that you feel.
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  Speaker 2: Like all black people or people of color, excuse me,
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  Speaker 2: in this day and age, we have to feel that
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  Speaker 2: in order for us to move forward with our white friends,
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  Speaker 2: we need to know where we stand on political issues
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  Speaker 2: in addition to having these conversations about raising our friendships.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think we're at that line now.
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  Speaker 4: And the thing is, I used to be watching Sierra
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  Speaker 4: feels very much like a mirror about how I became radical,
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  Speaker 4: radicalized because I'm from Boston, which is very white, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm the girl who would always say it's not that
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  Speaker 4: deep and it's not about race, until I was inconvenienced
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  Speaker 4: about how it was about race the entire time, and
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  Speaker 4: I just wasn't clocking it. And I'm watching Sira go
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  Speaker 4: through that journey, watching her through all these seasons where
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  Speaker 4: she doesn't make it about race. She notes that there
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  Speaker 4: are moments where there are blind spots that are unintentional
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  Speaker 4: yet still impactful, because intention does at negative impact, right,
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  Speaker 4: She's noticing, Hey, there are things they are said about
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  Speaker 4: me that are not said about the other girls. This
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  Speaker 4: is where that Amanda's handled, that I'm not handled? What
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  Speaker 4: does it seem like something's off? But you bite your
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  Speaker 4: tongue because you don't want to make it about race.
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  Speaker 4: You want to be a good time Charlie, right, And
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  Speaker 4: then something happens where you can't ignore the fact that
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  Speaker 4: it might have been about race the entire time. Subconsciously.
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  Speaker 4: Do I think anybody on Summer House is consciously racist?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely not, which is why when people say that they
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  Speaker 4: don't think it's about race, is because they're talking about
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  Speaker 4: the intention. But intention doesn't mean it's not happening though.
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  Speaker 4: I think unintentionally racial bias has been prevalent the entire time.
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  Speaker 4: Even when you look at how Martha's nyard is treated,
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  Speaker 4: and when she saw the difference between how Amanda was
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  Speaker 4: treated by Wes, because West doesn't treat all them the
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  Speaker 4: same way. When he saw the difference between how Amanda
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  Speaker 4: was treated and how her tears were treated and how
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  Speaker 4: Amanda's tears were treated, she was like, oh, no, I
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  Speaker 4: think this actually might be about race. Moving forward, I
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  Speaker 4: need to get keep better. I need to be more
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  Speaker 4: hyper vigilant and not keep giving my white friends passes
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  Speaker 4: and make sure that I'm explicit with them so this
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  Speaker 4: doesn't happen to me again. So I think even Sierra
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  Speaker 4: making that statement is her saying covertly it is about race.
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  Speaker 4: In my opinion, I think she believes that a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the difference between Wes and Amanda are race based,
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  Speaker 4: and also too, can we be honest Amanda real quick?
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  Speaker 4: Every single time a man is showing any kind of
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  Speaker 4: admiration for a woman of color, not black, just woman
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  Speaker 4: of color, Amanda's mask lips a little bit. When that
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  Speaker 4: thing happened with Ben and Ben was with that, I
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  Speaker 4: think she's Persian. What is that beautiful girl that he's dating?
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  Speaker 4: And she Italian person? She's something swirly right. And she
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  Speaker 4: went from saying they know me and Ben were just
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  Speaker 4: friends and it was a flirty moment in Italy, but
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  Speaker 4: we're just friends to oh no, he a hundred basically,
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  Speaker 4: he undred percent went to sleep with me, And I
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  Speaker 4: don't see what's wrong with me telling your girl that
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  Speaker 4: you want to sleep with me. There seems to be
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  Speaker 4: this tick with Amanda that whenever a woman of color
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  Speaker 4: is being centered, she finds a way for her to
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  Speaker 4: be seen as like, hey, I'm still the pretty white damsel.
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  Speaker 4: Amanda is sinister in a way that I think when
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  Speaker 4: this is all over, when someone does a really serious,
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  Speaker 4: deep tap of her behavior and how she's triggered. Not
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  Speaker 4: only she not a girl's girl, and I hate that
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  Speaker 4: word anyways, I think girl's girls performing it to begin with.
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  Speaker 4: Now only she not a girl's girl. I do think
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  Speaker 4: she has a particular thing where, well, if you like
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  Speaker 4: the girl of color, you're definitely like me. I do
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  Speaker 4: believe that about her personally.
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  Speaker 5: I do the point about Sabrina though. Sabrina literally came
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  Speaker 5: up to Amanda telling Amanda she needs to divorce her
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  Speaker 5: husband without knowing her, so like that was like in
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  Speaker 5: retaliation to Sabrina saying something that I think was also
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  Speaker 5: inappropriate to say to someone who you're meeting for the
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  Speaker 5: first time, like you don't just meet me and be
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  Speaker 5: like you need to leave your husband. I forget the quote,
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  Speaker 5: but Sabrina, they both kind of came at each other,
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  Speaker 5: for me, inappropriately for their very first meeting.
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  Speaker 4: You do you think that Amanda made an ecosystem where
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  Speaker 4: that was fodder and like, because I think is if
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  Speaker 4: you're cackling about how much your husband sucks. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think it's I don't think it's a leap. Amanda created
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  Speaker 4: an ecosystem where mocking Kyle was was up for everybody.
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  Speaker 5: For her friends, right for her friends, so she was familiar.
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  Speaker 4: But it didn't feel like a leap. If you've made
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  Speaker 4: mocking your husband kind of like the norm at the
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  Speaker 4: table in front of strangers.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't think it's up to us to
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  Speaker 5: determine how Amanda should feel about that, right, Like meeting Sabrina,
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  Speaker 5: You're meeting Sabrina for the first time.
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  Speaker 6: She's saying what she's.
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  Speaker 5: Saying, even though we know we were watching you on
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  Speaker 5: the show, we've seen you.
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  Speaker 6: Let page see.
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  Speaker 5: Her everybody talk crazy to Kyle. I think I think
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  Speaker 5: Amanda had a right to feel a way about Sabrina,
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  Speaker 5: like meeting her for the first time, being like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: gir you need to divorce your husband. Like, I think
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  Speaker 5: it was different, and so I think it was just
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  Speaker 5: kind of like they Like I said, they both were
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  Speaker 5: inappropriate to each other for a very first meeting. They
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  Speaker 5: were over familiar with each other. Amanda didn't have to
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  Speaker 5: say that about Ben. The Sabrina also didn't happen just
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  Speaker 5: ask to ask you a question.
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  Speaker 4: Though, do you It's one thing to react and be offended,
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  Speaker 4: it's another thing to weaponize desirability. That's my thing is
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  Speaker 4: not about her being offended. It's about the weapon that
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  Speaker 4: she chose when she was offended. WHI speaks to my
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  Speaker 4: point white girls, maybe white girls who pretend to be
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  Speaker 4: allies to black girls who are nice nasty. When she
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  Speaker 4: hits the fan and they're offended, the first thing they
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  Speaker 4: want to remind you is I'm more desirable. And there's
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  Speaker 4: something to that with Amanda that I can't unsee. I
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  Speaker 4: know where you're going with that, Blue.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's a thing that women do.
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  Speaker 4: Though.
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  Speaker 5: I think women women weaponize desirability whenever they want to
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  Speaker 5: attack you, like we are public, public facing people like
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure it's happened to you as it's happened to me.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think that's the thing that women do.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not caping at all. Please let this be clear.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just speaking like I just don't look at everything
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  Speaker 5: like this has to be like race based, when I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: this is like human behavior that I've experienced across race.
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  Speaker 4: So I didn't say everything that's the thing I think
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  Speaker 4: we need to be careful, right, because one of the
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  Speaker 4: things that people do is they act like if you say,
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  Speaker 4: for one instance, you said it for everything, we're only
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  Speaker 4: talking about summer House, so I haven't said it for everyone.
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  Speaker 4: That's not fair to me, right. I think very specifically,
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  Speaker 4: watching ten seasons, I'm speaking specifically to someone who I
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  Speaker 4: have seen move in a way where she's a white damsel,
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  Speaker 4: and she's the archetype of the white damsel. So it's
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  Speaker 4: not a leap to watch somebody be a white damsel
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  Speaker 4: for ten years. Watch her betray her black friend. Watch
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  Speaker 4: the man she betrayed with. The only person that Wes
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  Speaker 4: didn't email was the black friend. He hit up every
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  Speaker 4: single guy friend except for the black one. Watch Rent
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  Speaker 4: West admit, I resent you for being someone that people
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  Speaker 4: called me racists for. These are not things that I'm
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  Speaker 4: making up about everything. These are things that have very
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  Speaker 4: specifically happened with Amanda and West and so specific not
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  Speaker 4: everything because that's dismissive, but in the specific occasion, race
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  Speaker 4: keeps coming up, and to speak to Sierra, I think
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  Speaker 4: the reason why si Era brought up race to the
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  Speaker 4: very important conversay that Carlos mentioned is because inside the
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  Speaker 4: house she's experiencing it, so she's calling it out in
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  Speaker 4: a way that as gentle as possible. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: Sierrah just randomly said, hey, I'm getting slack for dating
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  Speaker 4: white guys just because she's getting slack from the outside.
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  Speaker 4: She brought it to the group because it was an
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to bring up a blind spot. You don't bring
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  Speaker 4: up a blind spot unless something has happened where that
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  Speaker 4: blind spot has foundation. So I think even by Cierra's standards,
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  Speaker 4: race is an issue in the house, and I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to dismiss that on some it's just girls being.
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  Speaker 5: Girls that they've talked about race before. They had a
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  Speaker 5: really serious conversation when what was the girl not Miya Maya.
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  Speaker 5: When Maya was on her season the.
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  Speaker 4: Girl, so there was nobody before her. She was the
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  Speaker 4: first black girl.
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying when Sierra and Maya were on the season,
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  Speaker 5: they had a conversation with the house. I think this
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  Speaker 5: was season six. Maybe they had a very serious conversation
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  Speaker 5: about race. So it wasn't the first time they had
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  Speaker 5: a conversation. And like Sierra has expressed these things, so
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  Speaker 5: it's not it wasn't brand new this season.
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  Speaker 4: She was talking about. She very specifically said, when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to desirability and dating, there are blind spots with
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  Speaker 4: race that you guys are not acknowledging. So that's a
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  Speaker 4: very specific and nuanced point that hasn't been made in
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  Speaker 4: that way before. Because one of the things I don't
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  Speaker 4: think Wes understood was when you do what you do,
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  Speaker 4: you're not thinking that you're a white man dating a
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  Speaker 4: black woman. You're being a fuck boy, right, But that
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  Speaker 4: blind spot about you being a white man dating a
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  Speaker 4: black woman has created a blowback for me that I've
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  Speaker 4: had to pay for. And he admitted I resent that
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  Speaker 4: I was called to task on that that's a race
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  Speaker 4: based resentment. Whether objectively speaking, it's not a mad opinion, right,
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  Speaker 4: And I think that we do a disservice to the
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  Speaker 4: audience when we don't sit with what it means to
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  Speaker 4: be the only black girl in a setting full of
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  Speaker 4: white people and something happens where you're watching a white
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  Speaker 4: woman be cherished and protected in the way that you're not.
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  Speaker 4: That still can be subconscious bias, even if it's not intentional.
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  Speaker 4: I agree, I don't want to get.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to get so to piggyback off of
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  Speaker 2: that point. One thing that happened in this reunion was
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  Speaker 2: Amanda was like Elvis. She left the building. She left
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  Speaker 2: the stage. And listen as somebody who has done countless
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  Speaker 2: of reunions, right, not only hosting them, but being a
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  Speaker 2: part of the Housewives franchise where people walk off this
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  Speaker 2: set all the time, right, it's sort of like, I
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: hate to use this. It's sort of like the performance
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: that every housewife does in order to have a moment. Right.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: So when Amanda left the building, not like Na did
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: avertobac because Mia left the building hopped in her uber
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: And it's been two years and Mia, Mia was arrested
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: at the Atlanta airport and she's fine out but oh.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, how did me catch a straight? No?
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I love Mia Belaiah, But listen, she left the building
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: and patom Bak has moved on and got Stacy Rush
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: so AnyWho to see Amanda to leave the reunion stage,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, fine, like, girl, get your moment now.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I will say this as a producer. The one thing
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I was surprised, I'm just being very honest. I was
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: surprised that a Manda got away with being off of
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: the stage while the reunion resumed. I understand that a
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: person needs a moment I was on. I understood a
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: man that when she said, can I just have a
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: moment without cameras? As a producer, you should give them that, right.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I was shocked that she was allowed not to be
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: back on that stage and they resumed with the reunion,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: because the girls I worked with were never allowed that.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: And it did remind me a little bit of Kim
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: zosiaks last season on Housewives, where you know, she ran
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: off the stage and you know she had those moments
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: and backstage talking to Andy, do you know what it's
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: like to be the only white girl in this black cast?
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: And all those things, and I felt like Kim got
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: coddled a bit. I will say that I did feel
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: like Amanda, Oh Amanda. It was giving a Manda zosiac
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: to me watching that moment. But Jaz, what do you
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: think about Amanda leaving the stage and not finishing up
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: the reunion? Went to me no shade to the rest
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: of the cast. She wasn't getting attacked at all by anybody.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: And the one person that was giving you some smoke rightfully,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: so that you knew was going to give it to
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: you was Sierra.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: And you saw her to fuck off. You showed up
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: telling the person that you want to apology to the
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: fuck off and so she returned the favor. But sorry,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: go ahead, Oh no, it's fine.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, I'm with you, Carlos. I was shocked
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: that she was allowed to because she was gone for
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: like a long stretch of time, and I was like,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: it was to the point they forced West. They had
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: to force West to get up to like go like
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: fake or act like he was going to check on her.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Then they went around and went back around to Kyle
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: and They're like, go check on your wife. And I'm like,
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: this is so everything about this fills so strange. But
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: by the time Kyle was like about to get up
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: and actually go check on her, Andy got worth that
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: she was coming back out. But yeah, I was sitting
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: there like, this is a long stretch of time for
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: her to just be off the stage without them going
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: to break because usually, as I remember with reunions, if
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: someone goes off the stage and they're gone for a while,
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: they will just call for like a quick break or
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: something like that. But yeah, she was just gone, So
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: that was that was really interesting to me.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Andy literally saw her questions and was about to yamm
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: y'all when I'm telling you, and I think, Jesus, I'm
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: so passionate about the race thing. I'm sorry. Nine Leaks
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: is not getting away with that, even at the height
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: of her career. There is a level of coddling that
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Amanda is getting from everybody that is peak white damsel.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: There's like no other way around it. For Andy Cohen, right,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: and Carlos to me, you are are Andy Cohen in
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: our community. Right for Andy Cohen to look at those cards,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: skip four a of them, and for to say, ah, honey,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: we showed up here for a reunion, for her to
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: be helped Sierra's producing the show on behalf of any
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: because even he's being swept into her white womanhood. I'm sorry,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: she is a great a white damsel. It is such
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: a perfect case of how you can make even a
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: businessman forget how to do business. I can't imagine Carlos
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: King looking at four cards and say, let's skip all
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: the tea that people showed up for to go to
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: ask West where you got his shoes from. That is mania.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: That is mania to me.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: No, listen, Blue, I do respect her passion. That's one
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: of the things that I respect about your content and
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: what you do. I am just also very strong in
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: my convictions, convictions and how I observe the world and
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: how I view things. You act like I was saying,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: like Amanda and Sierra are equally.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: I love them both. I want to take them both
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: to time.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I love all the girls, right, I am not.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: I am not saying that Amanda dead as wrong I do.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: I do agree with you that the audience for sure
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: treats Amanda because before all of this, the audience was
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: very harsh to Sierra. We all witness the audience. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: the cast.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: She's trained everybody to treat her like a white damsel.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Even Wes the fuck BOYU boys, who's the one person
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: who he treats like a white damsel. Even his extras
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: are like he is charming, But he's never done all
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: that because she is a damsel, and she's weaponized it
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: to the point where it's normalized.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: I think they're doing all of this though, just because
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: they got found out and they don't want to look stupid,
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Like that's kind of we were talking about this in
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: the first recap Carlos, like they have been caught and
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: so they have to like do this to say face.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: I feel like Wes already know. Like one of the
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: big things or themes of this episode is people talking
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: about how Wes just wants to be liked. Actually, that's
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: what people have been saying since he came to the show.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: He wants the audience to like him. That's why he
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: was really upset with Sierra because he did her wrong,
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: the audience turned against him. He wanted to be backing
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: her good graces because he wanted to be back into
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: the in the audience's good graces. And so for for West,
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: I think like he just wants people to like him,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Like he just wants to be seen as the good guy.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: So this thing with Amanda, he can't just like they
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: get caught. He just walk away. He knows they're in
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: deep shit. But it's like if he leaves her now
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: he looks even worse. I think he's trying with whatever
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: like little bit of good will he has left with
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: the people who are defending what they're doing, the small
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: group of people He's just trying to say face for
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: them because he doesn't want to be like completely hated.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: So I think that's why they are just like holding
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: some talkingbot.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Last smmer when it was fresh, he was calling her.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: He was calling her last summer.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: With at the reunion that obviously, and it's her name,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Darryl Dear. We saw so Amanda comes back on sage.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: But what was funny to me is this and again
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I'm a new vie or that's why our three perspectives
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: are amazing. And listen, Jazz and blue, you too are amazing.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: And I love the fact that.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: This is fun for me.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Gas is the same.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: This is giving me, you know, the beauty is and
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I'm here for it.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: So the thing is this Wes to me is a narcissist.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: The call if that's a word.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: No, it's like doctoral the eye stands for I made
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: it up.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: And that's not a word, you know, I make a word.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: He is a narcissist. He is not only a gas lighter,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: he is to me a sociopath. And the reason why
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I say that is and I'm gonna tell you again,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched the show, but I know behavior based
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: on reality stars, right and I don't know people clock this.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: So when they tell Wes like go after Amanda, Wes said, well,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I didn't know if the questions were going to come
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: at me like like I'm here to be a star.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: And the woman who I slept with that is the
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: ex the now ex best friend of my ex girlfriend.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: She's having a meldown. But I don't give a fuck.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I'm here for my close up, right, And that to
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: me just showed me his behavior.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: And that's when you said.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Dara, Dara, Okay, I'm just looking about Okay, Okay, Dara.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: There a child Monique Mnique.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Okay. So when she when she talked about the biggest
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: pattern in his life is that like like you ladies
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: are saying, he wants to be well liked and well received,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: but how he is like this man that sort of
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: praise on weaker women in order to get the moment
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: that he wants to get. And I don't know if
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: you two watched Southern Hospitality, but I interviewed today a
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: woman named Mia because last year September of twenty twenty five,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: West went out on a date with Mia.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: She huh, isn't it isn't there a girl Ama that
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: they're claiming was his girlfriend his girlfriend?
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: Me, it's me and Mia is another.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: And Mia, Okay, you're doing a lot. Yeah, I know.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: So she's a BRA's.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: She's a Bravo celebrity, she's Latina, she's a bravoelebrity, gorgeous woman.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Rain Jows watched the episodes dropping on Saturday Audio on Thursday. Anyways,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: the thing is, she talks about how West slid her
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: DM wanted to take her out the night of their date.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: She found out through Amanda at Bravo Con that Amanda
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: and West pregamed before West her out to the date,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: and how after the date, not to spoil the interview,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: something happened right, and that's when she found out because
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: she she said, I did ask Wes, do you have
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: any exes who will be upset that you're on a
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: date with me or that you' And she said to me, like,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: you got girls ask those questions. Don't worry about the
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: ex well the ex do you have any exes will
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: be upset? So she is weirded now because she's like,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: was he I'm paraphrasing, but she was questioning whether or
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: not he was using her to get a moment and
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I think what I'm realizing with the Wes is the
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: cast is saying that Wes is such a narcissist that
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: he uses these women to propel him to be like
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: this star.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's that we talked about this too. That theory,
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: that the one that Kyle believes that wesk news. Yeah,
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: I saw the.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Theory, I have I have problems with that theory, but yeah,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I saw the theory.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that I mean when I was
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: watching it back when they showed him like pick up
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: his chair to go put it next to Amanda, I
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: was like, he's doing this for the cameras, Like he
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: doesn't really care that Kyle just just said fuck you
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: to her. He just knows that the cameras are going
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: to capture that, and it's gonna look really good for
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: him that he's coming to the rescue of this damsel blue.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: So he is he is. He's so fucking performative. He
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: is so fucking performative, he really is.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: I think the issue with the theory isn't that it's wrong,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: it's that it's incomplete. M I. And if we're gonna
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: play diagnosed, that's somebody who's a who's a coach who
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: works with a lot of couples. My issue with the
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: West conversation, particularly when it comes to Kyle, Please please
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: stop quoting Kyle. Kyle is such a compromised person to
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: quote when it comes to West because he is has
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Stockholm's and so he his bias is loud. If we're
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: gonna diagnose, I would say if I was gonna diagnose
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: for fun, because I can't legally do it. I'm not licensed. Yes,
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: none of us are licensed. Don't give me at The
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: doctor is silent, Okay, the doctor is silent. Wes is
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: an overt narcissist and Amanda is a covert narcissist, and
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: representing the existence of one negates physics of the other.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: That is my issue. The complete story is two narcissists
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Keith found each other, and we're only blaming the obvious one,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: not the covert one. That is my issue because in
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: the same way there's a pattern of West being a
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: narcissistic because of the way that he moves and us
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: with women. Amanda has done the same with men. Her
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: thing is just different and more palatable. Her pattern of
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: doing this and this was called that as well, is
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: by Kyle as well is she'll find a man who's
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: a messy project, who does all these things, which makes
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: it eager to do what play damsel? And when my
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: man is a mess you can't tell the shit that
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: I'm doing because he's so much worse. You're su busy
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: feeling bad for me. You can't tell my hands are
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: dirty too. She did it with Kyle. It's the reason
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: why she's attracted to West. So he picked her, but
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: she also picked him back. They're both reliving the same pattern.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: They're both narcissists. We can't keep on saying it's a
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: scheme that WestEd up. No, it's a scheme that West
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: and Amanda set up together. That's why I'm saying Kyle
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: the only reason. It's almost like if I was to
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: be dating a guy and I find out that he
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: used to date Jazz, and now I want to talk
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: shit about Jazz. Why am I talking shit abou Jazz?
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about shit about him? Because
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I like him still. I want to get back with
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: him still, and I'm hurt he didn't choose me. Right,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna aiming at the person who was chosen, not
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: the person who actually betrayed me. So Kyle is flawed.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Let's stop quoting Kyle. Kyle's gonna always focus on Wes
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: because he still loves Amanda. What he doesn't want to
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: admit to himself and will need some therapist to admit
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: to himself is, yo, baby, she played you and now
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: she's about to play with with a younger model. What
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: did you say, Kyle? Two point zero? Right, Kyle on steroids.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: That's a pattern of a narcissist as well. Narcissistic women
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: don't get called out enough, and the way we do
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: it is more palatable. We don't do it by being
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: a fuck boy. We do it by being a savior
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: who always picks the same broken wing. I think they're
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: both narcissists. Well, this is why I want to I
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: want to dispect Kyle. I think as women, we understand
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: that girl. We've seen that girl.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: That's why I'm sitting here like, look you see, I
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: didn't have anything to say about that class dismissed you,
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: loved it, agreed, No notes, Mama.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: I can't stand both of them. They're a match made
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: in hell. I love them for each other.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I do want to get into into Kyle because
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: again typical disclaimer. I'm new to the show, right, so
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: to see these flashbacks of Kyle and I am watching
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: in the City. I actually love the show. I'm like
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: two episodes in and the third one I think came
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: on last night, but I'll watch it this week.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: The entire time it was a man just crying the
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: entire time.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Well, no, so that's the thing.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Is this or she did her voice back? Because they
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: do that. They either cry or they get their voice
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: back and then they cry again.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: No, the things I'm coming ja this last week. The
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: beauty of me watching in this city knowing that this
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: is what I'm watching is before the revelation the affair,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: because I now get to see who Amanda really is.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Watching the reunion, I do feel like Amanda's playing on
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: like like likes like she girl, stop right, like I
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: got your number right? Yes, I'm like a man a girl.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: But she gave a former sentence to listen to attack Kyle.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Now she's maya angelou Did y'all notice that she could
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: not talk when it was her turn to be account
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: of but the Minnesota Kyle Suddenly a podium showed up
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: with a microphone, Like what just happened, yes.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Which is why I was still confused why she left
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the stage. I'm like, you're actually getting off a little
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: bit easier than I thought you were. No shape AnyWho, Now, Kyle,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: two things can be true in my opinion, right, Amanda
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: and West, I agree, narcissists all all the things you
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: too are saying. I do feel like this scandal has
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: made people forget about the bad behavior that Kyle has
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: represented on the show. To see him tell his wife
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: fuck you and you know, shut the fuck up, calling
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: her the B word, and then we see him buying
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: her Cardier watch, it was it was sort of like, Okay,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: who is Kyle? And again not excusing anything right because again,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I really do just want to know are we forgetting
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: the bad behavior of Kyle and who he is as
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: a human, because rightfully so, we're focused on reading for
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: filth West and.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: A man that I'm not forgetting shit. I've always said,
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: I know Kyle has historically been a really bad husband
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: to Amanda. I think the audience largely there are people
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: in the bravosphere who are like trying every day with
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: all their might to remind people like Kyle was a
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: shitty husband, right, Like that because Amanda is bad does
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: not make Kyle good. But you know, a lot of
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: people have a binary way of thinking, so they need
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: a hero and they need a villain. So because Amanda
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: is the villain, it automatically like evangelizes Kyler makes him
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: like be the hero and the angel, and it's just like, No,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: they're actually both shitty people.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: Hers is just like extra shitty because it's out.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: But he's not been a good husband to her. He
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: was very mean to her. Like he's acting surprised about
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: like them separating, and I'm like, I'm surprised they lasted
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: this long, Like she took a lot from him over
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: the course of ten years. So no, I personally have
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: not forgotten, but I have seen a lot of people
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: in the audience forget. But the North remembers always.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: The North, that's remember and Kama. However, I think this
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: is one of those cases where three truths are correct,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: not just two. Carlos. I think this is more complicated
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: than that. I think the first truth is that I
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: do believe that Amanda is sinister. I do believe that
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: West is sinister. That's the one truth, right. The second
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: truth is that Kyle I don't think Kyle sinister, though
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I don't think they're the same. I don't think the
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: two shitty people. I think it's very different kind of shitty.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: I think that Kyle was not a good husband. That's
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: the second truth, right, we can now agree with that.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: This is the part that people are missing where I don't.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I will never compare Kyle to Amanda. It does, and
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: you would think that be on Amanda side. Notes on
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Kyle's side, there's a thing that people don't understand clinically
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: called reactive abuse. Reactive abuse, by definition, let me read
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: it to you, is what happens when people being abused
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: by their partners covertly defend themselves outlandishly in a way
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: that seems abusive because it happens after a victim has
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: been pushed to their limit by their abusive partner. It
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: can happen after years of emotional abuse and gas lighting,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: or because of escalating physical abuse. So this is the
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: thing that people miss when it comes to Kyle. Kyle
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: has been saying since day one, I feel abandoned in
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: this relationship. When we're alon and then I come to
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: the house and everything she's not to me, I'm seeing
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: her beat to y'all. He's been saying that for a
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: very long time. Kyle is immature. Kyle lacks emotional regulation,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Kyle lacks problem solving skills. Kyle is like a Golden
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Retriever that needs to be trained. We all know that
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: one friend who don't know how to train her dog correctly, right,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: and now the dog is just a bad dog because
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: it's never been trained correctly. Right. I think Kyle is
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: an immature person who was a bad husband out of immaturity.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's sinister. What I personally believe happened
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: is somebody made a joke that Amanda's ending the way
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: she started. She started as a girl who was a
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: side piece with a bad ponytail, and she's ending as
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: a side piece with a bad ponytail, right, and when
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: she met Kyle. I personally believe this is bluetooth, but
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: just my speculation. Amanda came on the show as a
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: side piece, saw this big shiny show, saw that Kyle
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: was the star of the show, and said, I would
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: like to renew my option as a side piece because
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: this is a way to get put on Hello. I'm
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: larked because she Amanda comes from money, and Carls will
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: tell you a girl with money now wants fame because
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: that's a different kind of currency. Right. I believe if
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: you watch the episodes back, and I have since the beginning,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Kyle has said I blow up when I am pushed,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: and y'all not realizing how unsupported I feel. And what
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I think happened is there is a coldness that Amanda
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: has with Kyle that when they are in their friend group,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: she is loving, she is hugging everybody, She's a spider monkey.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: And he's constantly saying, hold on, why are you being
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: so nice to them? I'm not getting any of that,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: And he's reacting to feeling abandoned because his wound is abandonment.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: You guys have seen this about Card Well maybe not you, Carlos.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: We know that Kyle has an abandonment wound. Right when
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: you have someone who is covertly abusing you, because Amanda
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: can't be a covert narcissist without covertly abusing, can we
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: agree that's how that word works, Right, when you have
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: someone who won't come to your shows, Carls, I can't
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: imagine if your man was in Dallas and you and
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Nini were in Dallas not coming to your show, and
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: it happening for ten years straight. Were you not gonna
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: stop being Carlos King and stop loving all the girls,
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: you might lose your fucking mind that in ten years
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: you want to come to my show. In ten years,
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: you don't want to support me. In ten years when
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: I have a disagreement, you never have my back. In
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: ten years, I'm always a mockery. In ten years, you
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: crack jokes about me first and clown me to our
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: friends that have made me a laughing stock. And our
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: friends believe you. Why the very love you don't give
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: me behind the scenes, you get to them tenfold on camera,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: so they can't relate to the Amanda that I'm dealing
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: with because I think you're a cold bitch who's not supportive.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: They see you as a loving spider monkey's kissing everybody's foreheads.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: So it's easy for the person who's being reactive to
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: seem equal to the person who's initiating the abuse. And
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: reactive abuse, I'm sorry if you learn about reactive abuse
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: with which I did in school. Kyle has all the
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: ear markers of somebody who's stumbling under reactive abuse. So
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: in the same way that when a girl loses her
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: mind after years of being in an abusive relationship and
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: she slashes his tires and stabs him, and in the
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: court of law, a psychologist will say, because it's reactive abuse,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: we have to weigh it differently. They are not the same.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I think that Kyle is not a good husband, but
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: I also think he's a victim of reactive abuse. I think,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: I think, I think what Amanda has been doing is
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: not just new because we just found her out. We
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: just found out about her and West. Amanda has been
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: putting seeds like this for a very long time. And
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: Kyle has been saying for years, he's not His dings
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: are our clean dads. His days are not our clean Carlos.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: He's been saying for years, she won't support me, she
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: won't support me, she won't support me, even when she
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: said on January first is when she decided to divorce him.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Why she divorced him. He had a set on New
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Year's Eve that she did not show up to and
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: wilkeb and said, ooh, he's not home. I'm leaving you.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: And he's thinking I'm not home because home is not
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: a home, it's not an excuse. It's how reactive abuse works.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: We're I think what's really happening is we're so busy
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: remembering how much Kyle sucks, we're forgetting how much he's
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: been abandoned. I think three twoths or two right now,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: and he's been emotionally abandoned for quite a while.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know much about reactive abuse,
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: so I'm not even gonna like attempt to speak to that.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: It's an unpopular topic. People don't want to talk about
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: reactive abuse a lot.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've never The first time when I heard that
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: term was when they were talking about when Taylor Frankie
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Paul or Frankie Taylor Paul from that one post when
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: she was doing all that shit to Taylor, I mean
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: to Dakota. They were saying that was reactive abuse. That
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: was the first time I'd ever heard about that. Yes,
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't know, and I don't like speaking
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: to things that I don't know about. Right, more of
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: us should do that. So I've never looked for that
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: in Kyle because I don't know, you know what I'm saying.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: I never had the language for that, But I guess
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: my question to you, is is that something that will
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: also make him marry her? Because as I'm remembering these seasons,
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: Amanda definitely set her mark on Kyle. I remember that
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: she was his booty call, turn girlfriend turned wife. I
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: guess my confession, Yeah, if Kyle right, if he is
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: being if she is being so culd to him and
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: she's not giving him this love and affection, I guess
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: my my question and my ignorance about reactive abuse, why
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: did he marry her then? Because he seemed like really
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: excited and really happy to marry her. If he was
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: not being loved on properly, why did he want to
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: take that really permanent step with her?
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: I love that question because it's the same thing as
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: when people say why didn't you leave when a smart
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: woman who has everything going for her does leave an
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: abusive relationship. When you are someone who is dealing in
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: an abusive, emotionally abusive relationship, your heightened cortisol levels actually
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: eat away at the part of your brain that has
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: the functioning around discernment, and you find yourself trying to
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: get their approval and wanting their approval more than anything else.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: And so any abuse victim will do things that don't
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: seem that they make sense to us because we're thinking
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: from a healed place or from an objective place. He
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: keeps on wanting a mana's approval. That's the answer. Yes,
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: when you are being abused by a gaslider, all you
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: want is for them to acknowledge that you are choosable
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: and lovable. He even said when he said the fuck use,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: we're all responded to the fuck us. Why was he
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: saying the fuck youse? Imagine you're at a party with
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: all your friends. Your husband is sitting on the lap
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: or has a friend sitting on the lap kissing everybody
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: in the forehead, tell them how amazing they are, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: when it's time to acknowledge you can you believe this
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: loser wants to be a DJ because he resents the
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: fact that I want to start a swimsuit line in
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: that moment and it's like, all I want is for
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: you to choose me. I want you to choose meth
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: much did you choose Jesse. I want you to choose
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: me as much as you choose Carl. I want you
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: to choose me as much as you choose Wes, who
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know you're gonna be fucking later. I just
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: want you to choose me. Look, here's a ring, here's
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: a card. He ain't watch. Do you love me? Now?
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: Nope, you just you just pulled on a thread. And
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: and I'm inclined to say you're right right because he
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: was saying that. That's why he said fuck you to Amanda.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: He's like, you were sitting over there with that smug
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: look on your face, and.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: She knows how to do that look anybody else clocking it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Abusers will give you the look to trigger you. Now
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: you look nuts when the whole time they're the devil.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: This is so textbook. She is a villain, She's a
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Disney I.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: Do I think you need to put that doctor in
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: front of your name, girl.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Don't make it silent, make it as loud as possible.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Don't get.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: You have your doctoral.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Believe do you? Ladies? Believe Kyle when he denied that
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: he's now had an affair on Amanda with another woman
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: while he was married, although he did admit that he
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: had an appropriate moments, which to me was sort of weird.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I need specifics on like what's inappropriate,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Like I need a laundry less of what you consider
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: inappropriate that we all may consider cheating.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: But Blue, do you think Kyle has been faithful?
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Meeting he did not have sex with another woman while
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: he was married to Amanda.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna say something that I stopped saying on
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: your shows. Kyle's a Leo man. You know, I got
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: a doctorate and libra and Leo men.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: But she liked me jazz, which is good.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Right, Right, I've dated, I've been jazzed for context. I've
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: been engaged twice to a Leo in a libra. All
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: the men that I've ever dated are either Lio libers
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: or Lio liber risings. It's it's following me like I
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: don't know what is going on, like the plague. Wow,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: young men are like puppies. Right when you stroke them
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: and make them feel good, they are loyal. I honestly
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: think the funny thing is, I think Kyle would have
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: been the most loyal person ever had a manager showed
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: up to his gigs and been nice to him like
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: in private, and also like you know, not mocked him
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: in front of their friends. I actually think he actually
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: could have been a good husband had his wife just
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: chosen him back.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: But I also think the toxic part of him probably
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: chose her because she was a challenge, right. I think
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: that Kyle, to any woman who is nice to him,
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: because a lot of my acces have done this and
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: I've peeped it. Any woman who's nice to him could
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: probably get more out of him than they should, because
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: he's so affection starved and he lacks the integrity to
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: be like, hey, I'm married. So do I think he
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: kissed other women? Sure? Do I think that he had
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: inappropriate anything where you validate him, he'll eat it because
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: he's missing it at home. Absolutely. Do I think he's
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: slept with another woman. No. I think what happened with
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Kyle is he was a loyal man who was start
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: for affection and too emotionally immature to go about it
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: in the right way, and so he did a lot
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: of inappropriate things simply wanting affection. But I think he's
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: actually deeply in love with Amanda. That's the biggest irony.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: I think he's deeply Yeah.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: I agree with that too, And I think and Amanda
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: knows that, and she is using all like she's using
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: this reunion to specifically like jab at Kyle. She's she
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: loves she loves this ship. That scene in the in
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: the second part of the reunion when she said I
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: didn't like going out with Kyle and he started crying,
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: and Andy and Lindsay tried to ask the question, and
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: Andy's like, wait a minute, Kyle, what's going on here?
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: Amanda go you And you can see her get ready
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: for her mom be like he's mad because I said
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: I don't like going out with him, and Kyle's up
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: there crying.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: I was like, this, bitch, No, that's a beautiful He's
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: the cake.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Kyle ca Ani Ma turn. I'm sorry that lady, Scar. Yeah,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: she's using this to do that to him and Jazz.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: You see that as a woman that wants you pull
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: that string. Suddenly a lot of other things start to fall.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: You're like, now hold on, no, no, like you you've
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: added so much color, because like again I have, I
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: have put them in the same category, like they're about
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: just two shitty people. Again, with my lack of knowledge
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: on reactive abuse, the way you're explaining it, it sounds
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: it sounds right to me, Like I don't. I don't
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: think you would misrepresent that right, So, like a lot
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: of his actions do make sense because I'm.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Like he's reaction.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he surely wouldn't choose when he's on camera for
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: the show to be like yelling at his wife, telling
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: her how unfun she is, and like all, he surely
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: wouldn't just like start doing that because the cameras are
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: rolling right, So no, which is why he.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Looked at her, you said when Lindsey was he looked
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: at her like you send somebody else after me. You're
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: doing this again. There's these little moments of you can see.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: That's why I believe it, right, Like when you are
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: this perfect example. If you have, like, let's say, an
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: abusive mother who's always calling you fat and saying that
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: she doesn't like how you do your hair. And somebody
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: walks up to you and they're like, well, that dress
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: is nice, it's a little snug. Do let me fix
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: it for you. And the mother's like, yeah, it's a
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: little snug and she makes that look and you pop off.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: You look nuts, but she knows exactly what she's doing.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: We all know them, people who know them buttons, right,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: we all know the people who about that mom.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Won't you love it?
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Now? You look nasty and crazy and your mother barely
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: said a word.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you're yeah, yeah, wow.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: I mean when men get abused, we don't clock it
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: the same way. I think that's why I'm saying passionate
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: about this. If it was a girl and it was
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: the other way around, I think it'd be a lot
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: clear for everybody.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, now that that's true, he bad husband, I don't
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: think there's there's so much.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of bad marriage. She had, No he
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: had that could never was a bad marriage.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And like I said, as I'm watching In the City,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: it's and again I'm only watching the first I mean,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I've only seen.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: The first two episodes. Episode three air last night.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: As somebody who's never seen Summer House, Amanda in the
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: City is extremely unlikable. She is a wet blanket. She
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: is a boring time. And all I'm seeing is Kyle try, try, try.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: His lover a boy company is not doing great. Amanda's like,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I want to leave and get an apartment, and she
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: complains a lot. And again I'm not saying, you know,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: she's not justified for complaining. But what I'm seeing is
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Kyle is definitely trying. So that's that's that's why I
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: agree with you that he definitely loves her. I want
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: to get into the Lindsey Carl monetization of it all
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: because this you.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Know, tongue in cheek ad that they did.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: You know, Amanda said it did hurt to see them
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: monetize doing their breakup, and Sierah said, you want monetize,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: but you will fuck your friends ex Jasmin. Did Sierra
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: win a point for that? But do you think it
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: was tacking Lindsay and Carl to do that anyway?
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Packy No, I think they were just like, I'm capitalizing
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: on a moment of funny thing that Kyle said in
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: a street style interview or a man on the Street interview.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: But is Lindsay gonna use any moment to like make
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: a dollar? Yes, I mean I know the girls go
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: up for They call her mother hubber. I have never
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: said that, but that's what they call her. Lindsay also
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: is performative, like Lindsay's also gonna be on the side
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: of whoever the audience likes the most.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: So because the show, Lindsay's their Porsche.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: She's a face of Summer House.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: No, she's Yeah, she's She's a long standing face of
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: Summer House. And he's known for doing scams, but it's
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: so in the business. She's great for TV, and so
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: you take it with a grain of salt.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: You try that, No, she's there.
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: Quick to car She tried to say it quick till.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: You could be like, oh, yeah, she is doing like
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: you ain't slick, Doctor Blue.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: The doctor, thank your dad.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: The Doctor's very loud like, okay, yeah, girl.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: The rain Drops, Carlos draft Force, I'm.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: Like, Carlos agrees that Porsia is a scammer. The whole time.
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: You didn't even.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Know she's in on the joke.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: She's good TV.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: It's like joselle Bryant, Porsche, who else, Nimi? Some of
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: the girls show up to work and then they go, oh, yeah,
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: she clocks into work and she's always clocked in. She
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: ends her check and then she leaves.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't hear the mother humor part.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: The rain drops did tell me that as I'm watching
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: in the City, I mean, y'all know this, and it's
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: not teeth for y'all.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Rain Drops.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Anytime you see an all cast photo, whoever is in
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: the middle, that's the start of the show. So in
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: the City, baby is Lindsey like this there the Brownstowe
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: and then it's like her her supremes behind her. Somebody said, Okay,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: it's her show, I'm here for it. But based on
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: watching in the city and seeing the reunion, I feel
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: like like you girls are saying and confirmed, Lindsey is
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: a type of chick that be like I will monetize
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: off anything.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: And that's why she said, Look, I was there for
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Sierra and Kyle during this time.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: The victims, the actual victims, Yes, I respect it, can
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: I'll be honest. When she said the victims is who's
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: the fuck you ho? I said, Lindsay, you got my vote, bitch,
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: I ain't got none to say.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I lived for it, and she gave me old naz
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Landy dynasty Dallas flair with the hair, the.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: Body and the No, that's what I said, clear set.
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: She cleared the set.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: That is Portia a bad bitch who's here to clock in?
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: This is I'm sorry. The analogy is analogizing now that
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: our coats.
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: Eye and she didn't slip anything in that time.
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: She didn't slip anything in.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Looks then goes home to her baby.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Now that's because tell you it's so many times lindsay
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: so much she's the Porsche. Anything I can tell a
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: chick out the table. You slept a marry man, Oh,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: now you know you did? And did dad and they
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: just go home and be like.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, Polar, what do you want for lunch?
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: I feel you.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: I did my job, Mommy did her job.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Now mommy's home being a mom.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: So but Carl, though you're missing the car park. Also,
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: everybody wants Carl and Lindsay back together. So Lindsey knows
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: that her and Carl being friendly to each other. She
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: even said she said, I unblocked him so that we
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: could do the line. I'm still not following him though,
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: that is mother. I'm sorry, how do you how do
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: you not stand for that?
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: But I'm confused. Okay, So Carl and Lindsay they're engaged. Okay,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: I found out watching in the city. And I'm not
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: judging because it ain't my vagina and I don't really
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: give a ship right, do what you want to do,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: your body, your choice. But I found out watching in
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: the city. She had a baby with the man that
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: she dated for two months.
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: Correct, right after Carl, right after her engagement with Carl ended.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now, doctor, don't be silent with this one. The
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: d R is not silent, and Jasmin please clock into
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Honey with your PhD. Now that that details, in my opinion,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: that details.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: A lot of.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Strange behavior that I think needs to be dissected. You
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: were engaged to this man for X amount of time.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Y'all are together for a couple of years.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: You in the engagement, No Carl ended.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: And he did it cowardly. It was very cowardly how
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: that ended.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: And you have a movie.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Carl is a nice guy who doesn't who's just coming
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: into himself, and I think we could do this. He
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: used to have alcohol addiction. That's why he has the
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: soft bar and cocaine. Oh shit, I don't think we're
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: gonna say that part, but yes, she has addictions. Jesus
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: do violence.
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: Carl has in my journalism degree.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Journalist, Honey, Carl is a kind man who was who
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: was an addict, and so any woman who dated him
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: would have to be mother because it's almost like, you know,
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: when we had that broken wing thing of I'm gonna
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: have to be in charge and tell you what to do.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: So Lindsay and Carl had a relationship where she was
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: the alpha. He was very clear of the beta. The
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: way they broke up was too beta for her. In
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: her mind, you came in as opposed to you left
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: as one too, right. Like She's like, I don't like
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: the way you edited it. But I'm thinking, Lindsay, you
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: picked him like this, like you knew he was like
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: this when you started dating and you were his friend.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: She felt dishonored by his lack of clarity. When they
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: broke up, he felt dishonored by her just being you know,
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: a ball buster and whatever else his complaints were, and
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: the audience would agree, because Lindsay's a big character. Right.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: She's so disgusted by how she felt about it. She
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: blocked him completely, cut him off, and was like, I
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: don't want to talk to you anymore. She's also saying,
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: I was engaged in preparing to do like life with
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: someone I only got like four eggs left in the
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: back of his fridge. I still need me a partner.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: I would like me a baby. And I'm gonna say this,
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: this is how I was born. My mother said the
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: love of her life played in her face, and my
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: daddy was her rebound. So my mother is Lindsay. She said, Look,
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: he was a good man. I was ready to have
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: a baby. Somebody else got me ready and fumbled. And
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: so when this happened, I said, I'm keeping it. That's
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: what kind of happened with Lindsay. She was like, I
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: was already ready, and then you played in my face.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: You embarrassed me. We're in People magazine as this beautiful couple.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: You embarrassed me having me looking like a bad guy.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: If I mean a nice man who drops an egg
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: something off in me. I'm gonna leave it in there
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: and have a baby because I'm ready. Now do I
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: say I agree or not? But I'm saying that a
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: lot of women of a certain age, when you catch
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: them when they're ready, you catch them when they're ready.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I can co sign?
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: I can?
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I can? I can?
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: I can cosign that?
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I was going to I was gonna say
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: a version of that, but not that eloquently. And I'm
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: glad you said it first because I think the way
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say it, she was c was gonna
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: give me more canceled than I already get. So thank you,
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: doctor Blue.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: I want to hear your version. I'm messy.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I want to hear no.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: Offline the club And so she said let's go for it.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Oh God, what is.
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: It the taxticat theory that they talk about. She was
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: just the light was on, the next.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: Light was on. Whoever came next was gonna get her
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: because Mama was ready.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, okay. So the thing that we have
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: to get into, guys before we go is the ending
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: of the reunion where it's hyphronounce her name Jazz.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: It's it's meh. I think they're saying me ha okay,
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: because there's a j in it.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: That would be right, okay. So Sierra facetimes with West
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: ex mi ha. She says he told her that he
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: would get fired if he is not in a relationship
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: with anyone in the Bravo sphere, which goes with the
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: theory that I told you all about fifteen minutes ago
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: with mea from Southern Hospitality. So the thing is this
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: West who is rumored to have slept with a married
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: woman who was on the Real Housewats of New Jersey,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Jim Festler. I want to say she denied it, but
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: not to the point where it was a hard denial.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: It was not denied it until Sierra was sentoed down
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: and she pulled back because she realized that Sierra with
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: the shits.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she went on two teeths in the pod hate
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Tammer and Teddy and pretty much was like, oh, I
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: was joking, but Sierra was adamant that.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: I think Sarah even said sue me, like I'm.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: Violence with everybody. She's like, look, I'm not a liar,
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: so everybody can can get this right now.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if I need to ask y'all
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: y'all believe it.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I believe it. West wants to fuck anybody in the
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Bravo spear to be relevant jazz.
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: This might be the time where I need to retract
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: a statement that I made a thread right when the
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: gem Festor thing came out, and Jen was like, I
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: think Jim responded and she said something about Courts. Right,
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: I wrote a thread and I said, you cannot make
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: an accusation like that, and like, think somebody won't take
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: it there. Right, I was talking about Sierra making his
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: accusation about Jen and Jen mentioning something about court I
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: was like if Jen. In my mind, I was like,
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: if Jen decides to sue her for defamation, Sierra can't
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: act surprise. The girls ate me up so much for that,
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: because you know, if you if you say anything against
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: Sierra these days, it's like you can't be objective. And
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: I am probably one of the most objective people. I
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: don't have a job right I don't stand any of
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: these people when I when I peep something, I say something, Okay,
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: see something, say something Hello MTA system in New York City.
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: But the girls weren't it for for a day in
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: my threads.
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: I have to turn that onifications off funny because they
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: were in my replies for days. But if the era
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: stood ten toes, that must mean that she has information
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: that we were not are not really privy to. So
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: right here, right now, my bad Sierra girl for that,
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: for that thing, for that thing that I said.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: I love that. That is so mature. And if there's
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: I look at all their sience here as at Capricorn.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: If a Capricorn says one thing, there's four more in
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: the tuck? Can we all anybody who's been around a Capricorn.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: You don't want me to get start on Capricorn's baby. Yeah,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: if they tell you there's.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: One bullet, there's seven more hiding somewhere else. So the
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: minute she said it, I knew she had a whole
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: arsenal blue.
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: Does me being a Libra? Is that why I am
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: am just kind of indifferent on everyone?
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: Well the thing no, you also low key want to
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: be like by everybody. So if you're indifferent, then the
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: dictivity can make you. I love all the girls.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: It's too No, but I think I think, I think
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: it's a I think it's a different thing. I don't
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: actually really if they like it or not. I'm just
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: saying no, if you like it.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: But you like the semblance. Libras love the semblance of
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: being objective, and so sometimes even if they would lean,
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: they're going to always make this say that I'm not
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: leaning because they like looking balanced. Libras love the optics
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: of balance even when they're not balanced. I've been engaged
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: to some one of y'all. I will say this. There's
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: some tea that I heard that I think it's provocative
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: that I look at carols face.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Look look, yes, I was saving this.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying this anywhere else I have heard with
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: good reason to believe the reason why the audio was
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: leaked of c Era and Amanda's altercation and Amanda being
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: called to task is because Bravo was originally going to
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: do an edit that made Amanda more sympathetic because they
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: had a vested interest in the city doing well. And
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: so when we see Andy skip the cards, that goes
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: along with the first edit of Amanda being seen as
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: this poor damsel that we're all agreeing to coddle. The
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: only reason we're seeing so much of what actually happened
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: is because somebody who worked there new Sierra was being
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: set up to be the angry black woman, felt bad
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: about it, and knew that if the audio was leaked,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: Bravo would be beholden to tell the truth more accurately.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: And Carlos to somebody who's worked in this industry, you
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: know that if there's a story that they picked and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: another story that could have been chosen instead. So yeah,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: there's the thing that's happening now where Bravo really wanted
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: to protect Amanda, not because they're like Amanda, don't talk
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: about her, but because about she's a part of a
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: new show that they're spinning off, and so they were
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: gonna protect her and the reunion to make her more
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: sympathetic for in the city. Once that leak came out, suddenly,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: now you can't do that anymore, because the audience knows
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: what's actually happened, and they're gonna be wondering why so
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: much is being left out. So to the person who
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: risked their job and might have gotten in trouble for
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: leaking it, you thinking that keeping Sierra safe meant more
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: than going along with the edit. It's some professional technically,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: but I gotta respect it that you were trying to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: protect her. I gotta respect it.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: And I'm never only because you know, listen, I as
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: a producer, like when people do some shit like that,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: my defense is up, like I think that's just agreedious
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: to record a reunion like it's health. So my point
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: is I never even bothered look inform of solidarity, I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: never bothered to even listen to the leaked audio. I'm
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: assuming YouTube journalists did. What was the audio that was?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: What did it say?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: And whatever it said hasn't aired yet.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: No, it has. That's the part that leaked aired, the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: only part that they cut out.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: Blue.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: Do you remember in the part when they were talking
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: about you can't helpful you like, and Amanda goes to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: see her, she goes, that's not what you said. They
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: cut that part from their reunion which people were asking
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: why Bravo cut that part. But to your point, if
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: there was, if they were trying to make Amanda look
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: more sympathetic, even though they you know, their hands were
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: tired at that point, because you heard it, they probably
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: did cut that that part, because that part was very
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: cutting of Amanda, Like when she said it.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: She's much contriier in the in the audio than she
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: even this is kinder to her than what actually happened
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: from the audio. So the audio was like nine. Amanda
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: was like nine on nasty on the audio, and they
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: wanted to make her a three on nasty to protect
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: their interest. Now we're getting Amanda about a five on nasty.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: It would have been a bigger disparity had the audio
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: not lead. It's almost like the audio forced their hand
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: to include parts that would have never made it otherwise.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I want to say this playing Angel's advocate, because
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: I don't look that D word is silent in my
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: household playing Angel's advocate, don't you think? And this is
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: me to speak as a producer. I finded a I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: find it to be odd that let's let's say this
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: theory is true, no one breathing would want any sort
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: of sympathy for Amanda at all.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Right, and I think because Sierra, oh.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: No, she is a following that that still are sympathizing
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: with her right now, Yeah, you're in a bubble. There's
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: a bunch of guess what the other damsels are rooting
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: for her? Think about it? Monkey see monkeys.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: But it's funny because you know how we all, we all,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: all three of us are aware of the ecosystem which
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: we live in is based on the algorithm which we.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 7: Like, and because of that, we we all are believing
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 7: that this is the world we live in, not knowing
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 7: that there's a whole noother algorithm on somebody else's iPhone
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 7: that has a completely different reality than what we're seeing.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: So that's why I hacked my algorithm. I intentionally look
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: at white white people shit all the time, so it
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: takes I'm mixed now my algorithm. I essentially look up
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: things that I don't agree with, just so the algorithm
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: keeps teaedting me everything. There's a whole plan of damsels.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: You think Amanda is an abused woman who fell for
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: her savior and the angry black bitch won't let it go.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Lord Jesus, Well, listen, this was a great heart.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: Look at it's a crazy word out there, child.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: No, I love it, I love I love it, rain Drops.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: We will be back to recap part three of the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Summerhouse reunion. So make sure you guys follow like Blue
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: and Jazz. Please let the rain drops know as if
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: they don't, but just in case they're living under the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Plymouth rock. Hey, Malcolm X.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: Shout out in the middle.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: It's even white.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: Hey, what's up, Malcolm X.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: He brought a full circle from earlier.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: Blue.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: That's how you were radicalized, he wanted to audience.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: I am so sorry. Tell me how to read. I'm
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: so sorry.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: No, listen, I was watching all of your ship yesterday.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: But Joe Buddes Alyssa, I'm here form all of this.
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  Speaker 2: The girls are in their feelings. And by girls I
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: mean black men. Yes, the straight black men are. I
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  Speaker 2: love it about black man.
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  Speaker 3: You meet Ish and Ice.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I plead the fifth I plead the Ish. That's
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  Speaker 4: when you go.
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  Speaker 5: Please, Carlos, I have to ask you one question that
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: I have for you. These first two I feel like
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  Speaker 5: by the end of the second one, I was curious,
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  Speaker 5: what is the third hour of this reunion gonna look
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  Speaker 5: like as you know, well that's them.
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  Speaker 6: What does that look like?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. The thing is this, all
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: producers listen, the purpose of reunion, Yes, dramatized, shade fast,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: read a bitch, all those things right, yes, yes, yes. However,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: every producer knows the purpose of the reunion is for
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  Speaker 2: things to be wrapped up and for you to see
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  Speaker 2: a reconciliation. We ask producers, and this is maybe some
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: tea for y'all. We don't like when things aren't resolved
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  Speaker 2: because we don't want to carry the same shit into
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: the next season.
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  Speaker 4: I e.
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  Speaker 2: Derey and Kyle, like I think as viewers, we're all
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: over it. We're like, can y'all just like at least
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: get along for the sake of getting along. So with
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: that being said, we know that Amanda and Sierra aren't
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: going to make up. Well, we know that Sierra is
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: not going to make up with Amanda, nor should she.
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  Speaker 2: I do think what Part three is going to expose, right,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: is more of the intention behind this affair and trying
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: to really find ways for Amanda. Now this is where
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: I do believe what happened find ways for Amanda because
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  Speaker 2: she hasn't done it yet to explain to us the why,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: like the why we know the damage is done. Where
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: were you in your life at the time, what was
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: happening to you, the thought process, so that they can
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: find a way to explain what's going on. And then
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: you do want in a perfect world, you do want
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Wes to say I love her and we're going to
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: keep this thing going. But I think Wes in terms listen,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Wes will say that for the sake of a spinoff.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, got one. Did you hear about the Summer
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  Speaker 4: House Ozarks. There's a rumor that they're working on Summerhouse
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: Ozarks with West because Sierra has refused to work with
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: him in regular summer house, and so they're going to
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: try to build a very white Ozarks rendition.
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  Speaker 5: But this was the Ozarks thing started before this scandal
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: came out, so like he was supposed to just be
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: the bridge between like this summer house in the Ozarks
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: the region issue with him.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, well, I guess you'd being moved in
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  Speaker 4: because she won't even shoot with you.
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  Speaker 5: That's so funny. I haven't heard that, And that's that's
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: interesting because I honestly I don't think any of them
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  Speaker 5: have the leverage to decide to not like this isn't.
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  Speaker 2: Well well, well I was gonna say, and oh, I'm
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: gla you brought that up, because I do want to
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  Speaker 2: say this before we do rap.
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  Speaker 4: Oh you mean like the Valley when they do the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: little spin off? Is that what you're talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Or no, I think what you mean, Jazz is when
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Arionomatics refuse to film with tom Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I said this, and this is my vice, s Sierra,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: don't be arionomatics, like and when I say that, you
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: have a huge support system and we want to be
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: able to follow your reality. I think what hurt Arianna
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: and vander pump Rules was her complete refusal to film
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  Speaker 2: with him. And before y'all say with Carlos, you know
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: she doesn't have the right to guys they were still
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: living together. Yeah, so like, let's show that and then
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: let's see a conversation. But the show got canceled. I
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: don't want that for Sierra. By the way, Sierra is
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: in a Shaboozie music video. We saw the commercial last
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: night where they her and Arianna were promoting a soft
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: drink after.
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  Speaker 4: Such It's gonna be on after Son as the co host. Yeah, yeah, that's.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: Amazing that that is good. But yeah, I don't. I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: hope that they don't decide to do that because we
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: see a tanked vander Pump Rules like that last season
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: with the og cast terrible.
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  Speaker 4: It was hard to watch, right, it was very.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was hard to watch. But it's also like,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: you know, Sierra, you don't have the luxury of having
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: another show to jump onto like they have in the
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: City with Lindsey and Kyle. Right, Sierra, you have summer house.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: Don't throw a summer house way if you're a desirous
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: to say on reality TV, right, they're not. I don't.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: I don't see them giving Sierra her own like spinoff
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: reality show Mia kJ like all their rookies their first years,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: Like you guys cannot afford to not like film with
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: West and I peek that though, because when West apologized
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: to kJ and asked if he was up for a conversation,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: kJ said, not right now, but maybe in the future.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: kJ is thinking about that.
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  Speaker 4: Check Yeah, what happens next summer?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I don't. I don't think
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: they have the leverage and I think they do need to.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: And also the audience is like, don't have west on,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: don't have Amanda on. I think they are forgetting that
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: NBC Universal is a business at the end of the day.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: Whether you hate watch it or love watch it, you
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: watching and talking about it, it's all the same to them.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: So why would they not put West back on Summer House?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: Why would they not put Amanda back on if she's
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: willing to go on. Why would they not do the
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: Ozark spin off and show. They're like, they need to
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: cancel the spin off. No, they don't, because whether you
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: hate West or not, you're gonna watch that show just
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: to talk shit about him. It's all impressions for NBC
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: Universal at the end of the day.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: So so is for anybody. Everybody is a director. I
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: love that television.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: I love that world. I need to be casting on
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: your show.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: A check.
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  Speaker 2: Shoot so Jazz, let the girls know where they can
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  Speaker 2: find you, follow you, support you.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: Yes, so you can find me everywhere at j Henley Brown.
• 1:11:21
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• 1:11:24
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• 1:11:27
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• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: down with our favorite actress and reality TV starts to
• 1:11:31
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• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: when you're not on screen? And I have some other
• 1:11:36
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• 1:11:39
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• 1:11:41
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• 1:11:44
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• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: That's so fun. I'm watching for talk.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: Hey, you've learned me.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: You've learned me, Doctor Silent like all right, blue, Oh, Chad,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: I'm a rebel rosser. Apparently you can find me on
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: Joe Butden apparently because my god, my face is everywhere
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: and I don't like it. Yeah. So I just recently
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: did an episode on Joe Butden and their friends of
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: the show too of their Patreon, talking to black men
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: directly about the problematic ways that they talk about Magdae Stallion,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: because I really do feel that Megda Stallion is a
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: symbol for black womanhood, good or bad, flawed or not.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: She's used as a symbol in the way that she's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: attacked hurts all of us, whether it's just not just
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: about her. So that episode is doing numbers just because
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: you know, black men and I used to be spoken
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: to in a way that is helding them, holding on
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: them accountable without being combative. And that's one of the
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: things I love about working with Carls and working with
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: you guys, is we hold each other accountable. We have
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: really weird conversation, but nothing's combat up. It's just really fun, right.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: So bringing that to Joe Butden was interesting. Pray for
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: me and you can find me on Blue Centric Live
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: and where I Go Live. And I bring emotional intelligence
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: to pop culture. So anything we talk about, whether it
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: is uh, the Real Housewives did that RECRD so I
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: don't do that on my channel look at me, Carlos understanding.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: But for the other shows, anything about the other shows
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: I try to make a smart Love Island is actually
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: the thing that I'm notorious for because making love I
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: Love Island emotionally intelligence is a feat. So if you're
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: gonna be watching this season and you want to be
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: on the right side of history, check me out on
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: Blue Centric Live on the Blue Centric YouTube page. I'm
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: there every single week, two three times a week. But
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not with Carlos.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: And what I will say is, thank you guys so much.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: It was a great conversation us. I loved it and
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to doing Part three with you ladies.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll see you guys next week.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: My Family, My Babies.
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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
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  Speaker 2: With the Lack of Effect Network.
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