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NFL Draft LOTTERY Proposal, Kyler Murray vs. JJ McCarthy, Cowboys-Giants SNF Week 1 + NFL Offseason Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on, my people? How are
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Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff three Now Podcasts. Hopefully everyone is
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Speaker 1: enjoying some early summer heat. It is warm here in Arizona,
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Speaker 1: and we got a lot going on because kind of
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Speaker 1: hit me yesterday watching the NBA lottery play out. Should
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Speaker 1: the NFL dabble some other stuff going on this week
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Speaker 1: schedule release? We know a couple of the early games.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to guess who Seattle might end up playing
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Speaker 1: in that opening Wednesday night game. Pelasarro had some comments
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Speaker 1: in regards to a quarterback competition when it comes to Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings officially Minnesota Vikings starting wide receiver or a
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Speaker 1: And let's talk some football. I do want to start
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Speaker 1: with the draft lottery. You know, one thing the NFL
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Speaker 1: has always kind of hung its hat on is parody.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't have that much in common basketball and baseball
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Speaker 1: because the media rights are all national. Right. In the NBA,
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Speaker 1: the Lakers have local television deals. The Dodgers have a
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Speaker 1: massive local television deal, right, and they keep the revenue
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Speaker 1: from that. Now, depending on how the league works with taxes,
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Speaker 1: it can get a little complicated. But simply put, and
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Speaker 1: Winhorses talked about this forever, like the Lakers in one
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Speaker 1: game or two games make as much as the Grizzlies
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Speaker 1: do throughout the season. So there are huge economic advantages
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Speaker 1: in those sports when it comes to the media markets. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: the New York Knicks are going to make a ton
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Speaker 1: more from local television than some of these. The Milwaukee Bucks, right,
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Speaker 1: it's very self explanatory, Chicago Cubs, the LA Dodgers, the
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Speaker 1: New York Yankees have a built in advantage over the
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Race or you know, you pick said small market,
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Speaker 1: the Oakland, Sacramento, Vegas Athletics. Right, word foot everyone is.
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Speaker 1: It's the greatest strength of the NFL, really is. And
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Speaker 1: this is Jerry pushback against this when he first got
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Speaker 1: in the league. We all do this together. We're all
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Speaker 1: in partnerships to generate a lot of money. And even
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Speaker 1: though the Cincinnati Bengals might not rate as well as
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, all of a sudden, if the Chiefs,
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Speaker 1: who aren't the biggest market, get a superstar player, they
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Speaker 1: will throw their hat in the ring and do huge
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Speaker 1: television rate. The Buffalo Bills, tidy market half Josh Allen
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Speaker 1: have been rating incredibly well for the last four or
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Speaker 1: five years on television. Everyone over the course of time
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Speaker 1: will carry their weight, even though consistently the Green Bay Packers,
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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Dallas Cowboys, the San Fransco forty
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Speaker 1: nine ers, you know, have done the majority of the work.
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Speaker 1: But everyone financially benefits, and their big thing is parody
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Speaker 1: right at any moment. We see it. Every year, a
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Speaker 1: team goes from bad to good, multiple new teams coming
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Speaker 1: too the playoffs. Even in football, like no one coming
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Speaker 1: into the year thought Seattle Seahawks were gonna be the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion. Definitely not gonna play the new England Patriots.
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Speaker 1: Things get weird all the time, all the time, and
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Speaker 1: it's it's what's great about football, even unlike college, like
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Speaker 1: the same teams are in the mix in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: like at any moment, something can dramatically change, and obviously
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Speaker 1: injuries play a role, and so the draft because people
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Speaker 1: don't take when we saw it this year in basketball,
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Speaker 1: well we didn't see it because most of us weren't watching,
4:29
Speaker 1: but more than a third of the league, we're literally
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Speaker 1: trying to lose on a nightly basis. They were actively
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Speaker 1: trying to lose. And this wasn't like the last month
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Speaker 1: of the season. Most of these teams actively tried from
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Speaker 1: really the jump and definitely more than half the season.
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Speaker 1: It was kind of a joke, but like if you
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Speaker 1: get a star player and that guy turns out to
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Speaker 1: be the next Lebron the next steph Curry, the next
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Speaker 1: next Jokich. It changes the course of your franchise. We're
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Speaker 1: in football every year. Half the dudes don't fifth year
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Speaker 1: option picked up. You have no clue. I'm hihing Fernando Mendoza.
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a good player, but if
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Speaker 1: you tell me in three years, he stinks believable, like
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Speaker 1: no one knows. David Bailey one of the most productive
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Speaker 1: players in the history of college football. I've seen a
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Speaker 1: lot of those guys, those type guys, really productive guy,
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Speaker 1: dominant player, wasn't playing in the greatest conference. I mean,
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Speaker 1: went up on a weekly basis against a lot of
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Speaker 1: guys that aren't gonna be playing on Sundays. And I'm
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Speaker 1: not trying to shit on him. I'm clearly he's a
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Speaker 1: big time talent. But we've seen a lot of big
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Speaker 1: time talents and not work out. Sometimes it's the fit,
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Speaker 1: sometimes it's the scheme. Sometimes who knows. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: all sorts of variables. I do wonder if the NFL
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Speaker 1: looks at the NBA and goes, could we add an
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Speaker 1: element of this right? And I don't think that they
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Speaker 1: would do. Every team that misses the playoffs, because then
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Speaker 1: you would be in a situation where like the Detroit
5:54
Speaker 1: Lions have the number one pick, they just went nine
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Speaker 1: to eight. They clearly are pretty loaded and could he
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Speaker 1: be a thirteen win team this upcoming year? But I
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Speaker 1: was wondering, could you just take the top ten teams?
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Speaker 1: Now I look the last two years, it would work
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Speaker 1: out perfectly because the tenth team and the eleventh team
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Speaker 1: have different records. So this year, for example, the Saints,
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and the Cincinnati Bengals who were eight, nine
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Speaker 1: ten all went six and eleven, and then the next
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Speaker 1: rung up were seven to eight win teams moving forward.
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Speaker 1: And I looked the previous year, same thing, the tenth
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Speaker 1: overall team in the draft, there was a break from eleven.
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Speaker 1: Now some years from pick nine to pick thirteen, they
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Speaker 1: all have the same records and it gets broken down
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Speaker 1: by tiebreak. So I don't know if this is a
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Speaker 1: perfect solution, but I do wonder if you could do
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Speaker 1: some sort of made for TV event, maybe even during
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Speaker 1: the NFL Combine, just on like Wednesday of the Combine,
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Speaker 1: boom draft lottery for the top ten and you could
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Speaker 1: heavily weight it because, for example, the Washington Whizzards are
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Speaker 1: drafting number one overall. They just won the NBA lottery.
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Speaker 1: The Utah Jazz are drafting two, which is a massive
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Speaker 1: win in a draft like this. Both those two teams
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Speaker 1: are great examples of organizations that desperately tried to lose.
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Speaker 1: Like that's a fucking embarrassment, even if it is the
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Speaker 1: right thing. You can't run a business doing that. Because
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Speaker 1: those teams, like all the other teams in the top ten,
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Speaker 1: are playing other teams, these are on TV. It's a
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Speaker 1: bad product. The Raiders are a good example of a team.
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Speaker 1: They just drafted Fernanda Mendoz number one overall. They desperately
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Speaker 1: tried up until the last couple of weeks to win
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Speaker 1: every single week. They had hired Pete Carroll. It's not
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Speaker 1: like he was making no money. They paid Chip Kelly
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Speaker 1: six million dollars a year, which is you talk about
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Speaker 1: an all time racket. You see some of these scams,
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Speaker 1: government scams going on in the internet. That's his agent
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Speaker 1: deserves fifty percent of that cout. Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 1: I mean talk about a guy that mailed it in
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Speaker 1: seven years ago, but they didn't pay him six million
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Speaker 1: dollars because I didn't think he was good. They could
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Speaker 1: ask me, but they thought he was and it backfired
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Speaker 1: in their face. Like the New York Jets, who didn't
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Speaker 1: have an interception all year, Aaron Gla did not show
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Speaker 1: up to try to be the team drafted number two overall.
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Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals were desperately trying on a weekly basis
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Speaker 1: with a bunch of randoms because they had a bunch
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Speaker 1: of injuries. So taking is not a huge impact in
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Speaker 1: the NFL, but this is the league that's always looking
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Speaker 1: to create interest, to create moments, to create things that
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Speaker 1: were drawn to the combine. Well, the combine is no
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Speaker 1: longer that interesting, right. You got to be a pretty
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Speaker 1: big nerd to watch guys do cone drills. But what
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Speaker 1: is interesting at the combine is all the coaches talk, right,
8:51
Speaker 1: and then they're doing shows from there, and they're doing
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Speaker 1: all these interviews, and then things that the coaches and
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Speaker 1: general managers say throughout the week carry the week of
9:00
Speaker 1: content for the NFL, and then within a week or two,
9:04
Speaker 1: free agencies here and then after free agency we have
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Speaker 1: the draft. They like these moments in the offseason to
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Speaker 1: keep up front center because this is not a six
9:13
Speaker 1: month a year league. This is like a ten and
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Speaker 1: a half month of year league. It really only goes
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Speaker 1: dark for middle of June through kind of the end
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Speaker 1: of July till training camp start. And I think this
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Speaker 1: would be something that I would discuss Now. I would
9:29
Speaker 1: still heavily wait it toward the teams that suck. Right,
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Speaker 1: if you were the Raiders, if you were the Jets,
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Speaker 1: and you were the Cardinals, you would get a major
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Speaker 1: opportunity that it's going to be hard for you not
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Speaker 1: to draw the lottery balls to be drafting really high.
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Speaker 1: But if you're like the Saints or the Chiefs, who
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Speaker 1: I mean the Chiefs have been to five and the
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Speaker 1: last six Super Bowls. The Saints were a team that
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Speaker 1: the final stretch of the season that looked like might
9:55
Speaker 1: have been the hottest team in that division. And obviously
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Speaker 1: the Bengals. They lost Joe Burrow for two to have
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Speaker 1: three months of the season. But like all of a sudden,
10:03
Speaker 1: would the Bengals have traded number ten if during the
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Speaker 1: lottery that had been picked three? Probably not, you know,
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Speaker 1: so I do wonder if it's at least worth a discussion.
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Speaker 1: Is there some way not gonna take teams fifteen sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, Hell,
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Speaker 1: even picks teams like the Dallas Cowboys and some of
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Speaker 1: the teams drafting in like twelve, thirteen, fourteen. I think
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Speaker 1: it'd be easy just set it at the top ten.
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Speaker 1: And however the tie break works. You know, on a
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Speaker 1: given year, that would suck if you have the same record,
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Speaker 1: but the tiebreakers. Tiebreaker happens in the playoffs all the time.
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Speaker 1: Some teams have the same record and one team gets
10:38
Speaker 1: in the other team doesn't. So I think we can
10:41
Speaker 1: do the same thing with the draft lottery. You're telling
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Speaker 1: me that, I'm like, coming up Wednesday night at eight
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Speaker 1: thirty Eastern from the Indianapolis Combine, there is going to
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Speaker 1: be a draft lottery of the top ten, eleven through
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Speaker 1: thirty two would stay the same. You're not watching, you're
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Speaker 1: not interested, And like I said, I'm not saying even
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Speaker 1: odds one through ten, I would still wait it because, again,
11:07
Speaker 1: I give these teams. I have a lot of respect
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Speaker 1: for Jonathan Gannon, the head coach that was just fired
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Speaker 1: by the Arizona Cardinals that's now with the Green Bay
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Speaker 1: Packers as a defensive coordinator. I thought, given what happened
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Speaker 1: last year with the injuries. It was admirable how hard
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Speaker 1: his team was playing and how they were competing till
11:26
Speaker 1: like the final game when they were playing the Rams,
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Speaker 1: I think week eighteen, and at one point time to
11:31
Speaker 1: look like the Rams are gonna lose and Jacobe was
11:33
Speaker 1: slinging it like they tried the Raiders. You watch the game.
11:37
Speaker 1: I think it was like two or three weeks to
11:38
Speaker 1: go in the season. It was the week before they
11:42
Speaker 1: they put Max on ice. Max was playing like it
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Speaker 1: was Super Bowl. It's like, could you play any harder
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Speaker 1: for a team that's going nowhere? Which is why we
11:49
Speaker 1: like football is because when you turn it on, and
11:53
Speaker 1: this is where Monday night football benefits a lot. Sometimes
11:55
Speaker 1: on Monday Night football, you can get in December and
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Speaker 1: you get Rams against the Foulkes, and the Falcons aren't
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Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. They've already been eliminated from the playoffs,
12:04
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you look up and it's
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Speaker 1: fourteen twenty one to seven Falcons and Bjon's going for
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Speaker 1: oneint eighty and it's like, you can't have pass football game.
12:13
Speaker 1: You could be hungover in right field in a baseball game.
12:16
Speaker 1: I've been Major League baseball players are all the time.
12:20
Speaker 1: You could go through the motions. In basketball, it happens
12:23
Speaker 1: all season long in the NBA. You can't really do
12:26
Speaker 1: that in the NFL, especially early in a game. You
12:29
Speaker 1: will get injured, you will get your clock cleaned. But
12:33
Speaker 1: I do think this is a curveball that could just
12:35
Speaker 1: add free inventory. You're telling me this wouldn't do millions
12:39
Speaker 1: of people. You couldn't just you created Thursday Night football
12:42
Speaker 1: out of thin air. You could just create something out
12:44
Speaker 1: of thin air. Now, this would be something that would
12:47
Speaker 1: have to be voted on, But I do wonder if
12:51
Speaker 1: some owners would be interested, Cause, like on a given
12:53
Speaker 1: year where I'm drafting eighth, all of a sudden, I'm
12:57
Speaker 1: drafting third because I moved up in the lottery, I
13:01
Speaker 1: would watch, and I think most of you would as well.
13:05
Speaker 1: Speaking about the games, you know we have someone told
13:09
Speaker 1: me I haven't officially seen this, but we have the
13:12
Speaker 1: schedule release coming up this Thursday. If they, if Roger
13:17
Speaker 1: asked me, can we push you back a week? I
13:18
Speaker 1: got some stuff going on later this week. But well,
13:21
Speaker 1: there's a will, there's a way. We'll figure it out.
13:24
Speaker 1: And we already know the opening game Niners Rams is
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Speaker 1: on Thursday because they're playing in Australia. That's seventy five
13:32
Speaker 1: hours away, which makes no sense to me. But the
13:35
Speaker 1: NFL and the owners are obsessed with going international, even
13:39
Speaker 1: if you have to go to a place where we
13:40
Speaker 1: have to kick off there locally at ten am. But hey,
13:44
Speaker 1: that's they know more about the business of international, you know,
13:49
Speaker 1: fans and revenue than I do. And and I understand
13:52
Speaker 1: the UK games right because it's very easy to take
13:55
Speaker 1: teams from the Eastern Seaboard flying five hours. If Seattle
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Speaker 1: plays the Carolina Panthers or the New York Giants played
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Speaker 1: the La Rams, the flight to wherever they're going is
14:05
Speaker 1: five plus hours. It happens on Monday Night football at
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Speaker 1: the time the Rams played the Atlanta Falcons, and that
14:09
Speaker 1: Monday night football game, well by the time the game ends,
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Speaker 1: by the time they leave there, I mean, it's a
14:16
Speaker 1: pain in the ass, especially when you're going it's a
14:18
Speaker 1: little easier going east to west. It's harder to go
14:21
Speaker 1: west to east. You know, if you're like the Giants
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Speaker 1: or the Jets, or the Pats or the Panthers or
14:25
Speaker 1: Tampa and you're playing the Chargers or you're playing the Raiders,
14:29
Speaker 1: or you're playing Seattle or the Niners. You know, on
14:32
Speaker 1: Monday night football or even Sunday night football. What time
14:35
Speaker 1: do you think these guys are laying back in their
14:37
Speaker 1: bed six am the next day. I mean, it's a paint.
14:40
Speaker 1: So the NFL, and this is Belichick, has always pushed
14:43
Speaker 1: back against this. You have people in the league offices
14:45
Speaker 1: just don't give a shit about any of this because
14:47
Speaker 1: they've never ran a team, they've never coached team. Most
14:49
Speaker 1: of them didn't play, so they can't eat. They don't
14:52
Speaker 1: care that. Their prerogative and their goal, which is what
14:54
Speaker 1: their job is, is to generate the most amount of
14:57
Speaker 1: money and get the most amount of interest humanly possible.
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Speaker 1: And they've done a good job. But we know the
15:02
Speaker 1: Niners are playing the Rams in Australia. We it was
15:06
Speaker 1: reported today that the Cowboys are gonna head to New
15:10
Speaker 1: York John Harbaugh. I can already see the NBC poster.
15:14
Speaker 1: It is Dak against Harbaugh with a with a headset
15:19
Speaker 1: like to me, Harbaugh is the poster child right now
15:23
Speaker 1: for the New York Giants. Massive night for Jackson Dart.
15:27
Speaker 1: Gonna be a lot of hype on the Giants. A
15:28
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna pick them to win the
15:31
Speaker 1: uh maybe not win the division, but to be a
15:33
Speaker 1: team that makes the playoffs, a little patriot like last year.
15:38
Speaker 1: I'm not going quite there yet. I know they've added
15:41
Speaker 1: a couple of defensive tackles over the course of the
15:43
Speaker 1: last six seven days, but I know they got a
15:47
Speaker 1: lot of pass rushers who got a lot of talent.
15:49
Speaker 1: Can these guys stop the run? Only time will tell,
15:53
Speaker 1: But that is a game that's like just to go
15:55
Speaker 1: to for the for the for the NFL Sunday Night
15:58
Speaker 1: Football Cowboy Giants. It happened twenty thirteen, happened in twenty fifteen,
16:03
Speaker 1: happened in twenty seventeen, happened a couple of years ago
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Speaker 1: in twenty three. Now it happens in twenty five. If
16:07
Speaker 1: they knew both teams were good, they that would be
16:09
Speaker 1: the opening game on Saday Night Football every single year.
16:13
Speaker 1: But obviously the Giants have been a disaster. Cowboys have
16:15
Speaker 1: had some weird seasons over the years, so you just
16:18
Speaker 1: you never feel that confident. But I don't think they
16:20
Speaker 1: could ever go wrong with those two markets. Week one,
16:22
Speaker 1: when everyone's zero and zero, we'll see Monday Night could
16:25
Speaker 1: be any game you know, obviously hard to even guess.
16:28
Speaker 1: We do know that Seattle is going to open at
16:30
Speaker 1: home on Wednesday. Now we don't know who the owner
16:33
Speaker 1: is going to be. That they can't they don't have
16:35
Speaker 1: an owner yet. Uh. There are only so many human
16:37
Speaker 1: beings alive that can even think about paying that much.
16:40
Speaker 1: And I think there was a report recently. We talked
16:42
Speaker 1: a little bit about it last week, but the interest
16:45
Speaker 1: hasn't been as strong. Well. I think part of it
16:46
Speaker 1: is you cost what cous you know, ten to eleven
16:50
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars. You know, my wife has kind of
16:54
Speaker 1: worked in the luxury real estate world over the course
16:57
Speaker 1: of the last you know, fifteen eighteen months, and like,
17:01
Speaker 1: there are only so many people. It's like, well, you
17:03
Speaker 1: want to live in North Scottsdale, the house between twenty
17:05
Speaker 1: and thirty million dollars. Now she shows me these pictures
17:08
Speaker 1: of the house, she goes to these they look fucking incredible.
17:11
Speaker 1: But you need a specific clientele that's gonna be interested
17:15
Speaker 1: in that piece of property at that price point. Right,
17:18
Speaker 1: there aren't that many humans and it's no different than
17:20
Speaker 1: owning a team like you need And I'm not saying
17:23
Speaker 1: she's actually the ones selling it. That would be fucking awesome.
17:26
Speaker 1: But she's associated with these groups that are part of
17:29
Speaker 1: these deals, and I think these teams are becoming it's
17:35
Speaker 1: gonna be it's just gonna be difficult to consistently find
17:40
Speaker 1: people willing to pay the prices that I don't even
17:42
Speaker 1: blame the allens would be like, hey, we'll sell it
17:44
Speaker 1: for eleven billion dollars. I don't just keep the thing.
17:47
Speaker 1: I mean the things of cash Cow. You live your
17:49
Speaker 1: life through it, especially if you have children, Like why
17:52
Speaker 1: would you ever give this thing up? Like what are
17:53
Speaker 1: you gonna do with the money, Because it's like, well,
17:56
Speaker 1: wouldn't you sell something for eleven billion dollars? Well, especially
17:58
Speaker 1: a place like Seattle. You know they're gonna come after
18:01
Speaker 1: from a tax standpoint in America, like you're gonna pay
18:04
Speaker 1: a ton of taxes. You're not gonna have the business
18:06
Speaker 1: to live through anymore. It's like, okay, you have five
18:08
Speaker 1: billion dollars, six billion dollars. You know after you know,
18:12
Speaker 1: you pay taxes, Your your lifestyle is the exact same,
18:16
Speaker 1: whether you just have the asset and you live through it.
18:18
Speaker 1: I don't quite understand the desire to get out of
18:21
Speaker 1: it when these teams are printing cash, but help. It
18:24
Speaker 1: might just be as simple as we just don't care
18:26
Speaker 1: that much. Like you watch the the your say, girls,
18:30
Speaker 1: I've been hard on the situation with her wearing the headset.
18:34
Speaker 1: I think it is kind of stupid, Like I think
18:36
Speaker 1: the best owners have consistently shown hire good people and
18:40
Speaker 1: then just let them be and then trust Steve Bushatti.
18:43
Speaker 1: You know, with the Ravens, wasn't just wearing a headset
18:46
Speaker 1: calling out DaCosta and John Harbaugh on a daily basis.
18:49
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's a waste of his energy.
18:52
Speaker 1: You win, keep your jobs and you get extensions. You lose,
18:54
Speaker 1: you get fired. It's pretty much. But I will say,
18:58
Speaker 1: you watch some of the Colts content, she seems like
19:00
Speaker 1: an awesome person and a cool person to work for.
19:03
Speaker 1: She's very hands on, So it's like I'm not anti
19:07
Speaker 1: her at all. She seems pretty cool actually. But I
19:10
Speaker 1: do think Seattle they are only a couple options right.
19:14
Speaker 1: They can't open against the Niners of the Rams because
19:16
Speaker 1: they play the next day. They're not going to open
19:18
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. Their other non conference home games are
19:23
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Chiefs. Because the AFC West plays
19:27
Speaker 1: the NFC West this year, they haven't, you know, the
19:31
Speaker 1: every single year now with the seventeenth game, you play
19:34
Speaker 1: a team from another conference. This year is the New
19:36
Speaker 1: England Patriots. I don't think the league would put the
19:39
Speaker 1: New England Patriots there because there's so much unknown with
19:42
Speaker 1: this Rassini story. Actually just saw a picture of her
19:45
Speaker 1: husband kissing Diana Russini. I think the New York Post
19:49
Speaker 1: it's like just never ending, which, Hey, to each his own.
19:54
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be me if I was in,
19:56
Speaker 1: but hey, I don't pretend to be, you know, in
19:59
Speaker 1: his situation waiting behind closed doors. But it seems a
20:02
Speaker 1: little awkward, and so to me, the Pats are out.
20:05
Speaker 1: I actually think it's down. So it's basically the Chargers
20:08
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The Bears are the Pats, So the Pats
20:10
Speaker 1: are out. I think even the Chiefs are out. You
20:13
Speaker 1: don't want to see with this Mahomes returning from injury.
20:18
Speaker 1: I think you just never know. Maybe as a stepback,
20:21
Speaker 1: maybe he's not playing Week one. I wouldn't even risk it.
20:23
Speaker 1: I think it's between the Chargers and Bears, and I
20:26
Speaker 1: think pretty easily. I don't think anyone would complain if
20:28
Speaker 1: it's Jim Harbaugh, justin Herbert Chargers at Seattle. I think
20:33
Speaker 1: the move, Here's the Bears, and you basically get Hey,
20:36
Speaker 1: this could be the NFC Championship preview, this could be
20:40
Speaker 1: Wildcard preview. This is two teams that most people are
20:43
Speaker 1: gonna pick to make the playoffs. Caleb Williams and just
20:47
Speaker 1: let's roll Ben Johnson, Mike McDonald hot shot offensive guy,
20:51
Speaker 1: hotshot defensive guy. So, if I was a betting man
20:54
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20:55
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21:00
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23:02
Speaker 1: The other thing I saw today is Tom Pelasarro, who
23:05
Speaker 1: I talked to you for a while with the combine.
23:07
Speaker 1: Awesome guy, but I've followed Tom's career since he was
23:09
Speaker 1: at USA today, Big Minnesota guy, fantastic Hare just has
23:15
Speaker 1: a face for TV, looks the part, and is really
23:18
Speaker 1: dialed in with information. And the reporters I always respect
23:22
Speaker 1: are the ones that know the gms and the coaches,
23:24
Speaker 1: because if the only information you get is from agents,
23:27
Speaker 1: like I just don't respect you. But you got to
23:29
Speaker 1: tell me the people that are making decisions that are
23:32
Speaker 1: funneling you information. He's one of those guys. He lives
23:35
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. He's pretty dialed in with the Minnesota Vikings,
23:37
Speaker 1: and he told Eisen over the course of the last
23:40
Speaker 1: couple of days that the Minnesota Vikings plan on this
23:43
Speaker 1: being a quarterback competition. JJ McCarthy versus Kyler Murray. My
23:49
Speaker 1: first response was, I don't think there's anything I don't
23:52
Speaker 1: think quarterback competitions really exists anymore, and I think we
23:55
Speaker 1: have some recent examples of the moment you signed a
23:59
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, it's his job to lose like they aren't
24:03
Speaker 1: equals when training camp starts, right, Kyler Murray is the
24:09
Speaker 1: lead dog in this He was signed. Now, granted he
24:11
Speaker 1: was signed partially because he was cheap, but in an
24:15
Speaker 1: independent situation, if they're both healthy, JJ McCarthy is not
24:20
Speaker 1: gonna beat out Kyler Murray. JJ McCarthy wouldn't beat out
24:23
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. There'd be a lot of teams
24:25
Speaker 1: where based on what we've seen, JJ McCarthy wouldn't beat
24:28
Speaker 1: out the backup quarterback. And we saw last year when
24:32
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was signed to the Indianapolis Colts for fourteen
24:34
Speaker 1: million dollars, that wasn't a quarterback competition. Daniel Jones the
24:39
Speaker 1: moment he signed that contract was the starting quarterback unless
24:42
Speaker 1: things went exceptionally bad or he got injured in training again.
24:46
Speaker 1: And what happened, Daniel Jones was starting quarterback a couple
24:50
Speaker 1: of years ago in a backup quarterback situation. It was
24:53
Speaker 1: like the forty nine ers has signed Sam Darnold and
24:56
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a competition for the backup quarterback job.
24:59
Speaker 1: That's what Kyle Shanahan told everybody. It's like, there's no
25:01
Speaker 1: fucking competition. The moment Sam Donald signed Trey Lance was done,
25:07
Speaker 1: the only question was would they keep a guy as
25:10
Speaker 1: the third overall quarterback just to be like, well, we
25:12
Speaker 1: drafted him and we used all these picks. And the
25:14
Speaker 1: answer was no, Sam Donald beat him out or just
25:18
Speaker 1: did what he was gonna do the whole time, be
25:20
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback and Trey Lance was traded. I think
25:23
Speaker 1: they would have traded Anthony Richinson last year if they
25:25
Speaker 1: could have traded him. Doesn't seem like anyone wants them,
25:28
Speaker 1: and even right now nobody wants them. So I think
25:32
Speaker 1: this situation with JJ McCarthy is my only question mark.
25:37
Speaker 1: Is JJ McCarthy on the roster week one? If I
25:41
Speaker 1: was a betting man, I would say no. Now, we
25:44
Speaker 1: have seen these situations. Anthony Richdon's a good example last year.
25:47
Speaker 1: Maybe because we drafted him, we just keep him around.
25:50
Speaker 1: But we saw last year when there was like a
25:53
Speaker 1: soft bench and Carson Wentz played those games with like
25:57
Speaker 1: a broken spleen, a broken rib, a broken leg. It
25:59
Speaker 1: was like, why are they rolling Carson Wentz out here
26:02
Speaker 1: when JJ McCarthy is supposedly nursing a hamstring even though
26:06
Speaker 1: he's dressed. It's very bizarre. And I when I look
26:11
Speaker 1: at this situation, Kyler murrys gonna be start a week
26:13
Speaker 1: one unless there's an injury, which is obviously you could
26:17
Speaker 1: be a caveat for any time you talk about football.
26:20
Speaker 1: But there aren't that many quarterback competitions anymore. I think
26:24
Speaker 1: they used to happen a lot, even just ten, fifteen,
26:28
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. But I think now with social media,
26:33
Speaker 1: with the pressure on these teams, you have a really
26:36
Speaker 1: really good idea. Now. Sometimes with a backup situation or
26:40
Speaker 1: a third string situation, you know, maybe there's a quote
26:43
Speaker 1: unquote competition, But most of these come down to a
26:47
Speaker 1: gut decision, not necessarily like hey, this guy threw sixty percent,
26:51
Speaker 1: this guy through thirty percent, no brainer. Most of them
26:54
Speaker 1: are kind of a coin flip or you're kind of
26:56
Speaker 1: based on the eye test in some of these preseason games.
26:58
Speaker 1: But Kyler Murrays gonna be the starting quarterback for the
27:01
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Speaking of the Minnesota Vikings, this segment is
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27:11
Speaker 1: last week. I think at the end of last week
27:12
Speaker 1: that Juwan Jennings has signed. I think we mentioned this
27:15
Speaker 1: with the Minnesota Vikings. I saw today he signed his
27:18
Speaker 1: contract in Minnesota. I was looking today for some of
27:21
Speaker 1: the details on the contract. Schefter said up to thirteen million,
27:24
Speaker 1: which means he's probably making five to eight guaranteed and
27:28
Speaker 1: then he gets incentives. I've always liked Juwan Jennings, right,
27:32
Speaker 1: there's a physical nature to him. He's an incredible blocker.
27:35
Speaker 1: He makes huge catches on third down. He's made some
27:38
Speaker 1: massive plays for the forty nine ers over the years.
27:41
Speaker 1: He's played in a ton of big games, regular season
27:44
Speaker 1: and playoffs. He brings a lot to the table. Now,
27:47
Speaker 1: clearly from a value standpoint, I think Minnesota benefited because
27:53
Speaker 1: he misplayed his hand. He thought, and I don't even
27:56
Speaker 1: blame him. He saw all these guys like Brandon, I
27:58
Speaker 1: you getting thirty million dollars off seventy five catches. Well,
28:00
Speaker 1: it's like, even if I'm not that, can I get
28:02
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty million dollars? And the answer was no,
28:06
Speaker 1: because one thing in the NFL, unless you're a star,
28:09
Speaker 1: slow guy like a DeAndre Hopkins a Keenan Allen. If
28:12
Speaker 1: you're not very fast and you don't create separation, but
28:16
Speaker 1: you are a good player, your value to the team
28:19
Speaker 1: that you've been a good player on is always infinitely
28:22
Speaker 1: more than it will be to the open market, because like,
28:24
Speaker 1: boy can't get open, so I gotta scheme him open.
28:27
Speaker 1: But he's never gonna be my number one wide receiver,
28:29
Speaker 1: and on this team, obviously he's gonna be the third
28:31
Speaker 1: best wide receiver with Jefferson and Addison. But I actually
28:34
Speaker 1: think it is a pretty good scheme fit because you
28:35
Speaker 1: can put those two guys on the outside, you can
28:37
Speaker 1: put him in the slot, and he can just kind
28:40
Speaker 1: of be a big body guy for Kyler to throw
28:43
Speaker 1: it up to. He's a good fifty to fifty contest
28:45
Speaker 1: catch guy, and in the run game he'll block. So
28:50
Speaker 1: I think they look at it and go, we get
28:52
Speaker 1: a guy for relatively cheap, because if it's up to
28:55
Speaker 1: thirteen million, more than likely he's not gonna hit it,
28:57
Speaker 1: especially in a situation where we're are most of the ball.
29:00
Speaker 1: It's gonna get thrown to Jefferson and Addison, right, So
29:05
Speaker 1: I think they just looked at this like a value
29:08
Speaker 1: stock and we get to buy low and we get
29:11
Speaker 1: a winning player in a division that's gonna be very physical.
29:15
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really difficult, and he's a physical player.
29:18
Speaker 1: He's a guy that's been through some wars. So I
29:22
Speaker 1: think for Juwan Jennings, you get an opportunity in a
29:26
Speaker 1: passing offense because that's not Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan's a
29:29
Speaker 1: running offense. You know, in a perfect world, I think
29:33
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connor would throw it every single play. In a
29:36
Speaker 1: perfect world, I think Kyle Shanahan would call Christ McCaffrey
29:39
Speaker 1: run every single play, right. So it's just philosophically, what
29:42
Speaker 1: do you believe in as a head coach? And this
29:45
Speaker 1: guy likes to chuck the ball former quarterback probably views
29:49
Speaker 1: himself as like God, I wish I could do that.
29:52
Speaker 1: And I think Juwan Jennings is gonna get probably more
29:55
Speaker 1: targets than he's gotten in recent memory, and obviously over
29:59
Speaker 1: the last couple of years because of some injuries and
30:01
Speaker 1: some different scenarios, he's been a feature guy because the
30:06
Speaker 1: Niners wide receivers have dropped like flies because of injuries
30:09
Speaker 1: and depending on Jefferson and Addison's availability, like you're just
30:14
Speaker 1: gonna benefit from a team that ideally wants to throw
30:18
Speaker 1: it a lot. Run around Kyler and Chuck some bomps. Now,
30:21
Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings is not a bomb guy. He's not very
30:23
Speaker 1: fast relative to NFL players, I mean relative society. Probably
30:27
Speaker 1: beat most people in a race. But I think that's
30:30
Speaker 1: a solid pickup. So props to the Vikings for just
30:34
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31:01
Speaker 1: let's do a little mailbag at John Middlecoff. At John
31:03
Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those DMS questions right
31:07
Speaker 1: here on the show. Again, just my name at John
31:10
Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those DMS questions right
31:13
Speaker 1: here on the show. Okay, we will start with Carson
31:16
Speaker 1: Big Ravens fan, What were your thoughts on the offseason
31:20
Speaker 1: so far and how did they draft well? I would
31:23
Speaker 1: say over the course of the last I don't know
31:26
Speaker 1: decade that they draft as consistently well as any team
31:30
Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, once upon a time getting
31:33
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson at pick thirty two. Pretty sure they took
31:35
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst in the middle of that round, but still,
31:38
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a bick. That's fifth quarterback off
31:41
Speaker 1: the board and you get him. So I always give
31:44
Speaker 1: them the benefit of doubt. You know, Eric Tacosta when
31:47
Speaker 1: it comes to drafting, he's cold blooded man. He'll tell
31:50
Speaker 1: Max Crosby, we want out. And I think that deal
31:52
Speaker 1: when you look at it, it's like, would you rather
31:54
Speaker 1: have Max Crosby or would you rather have Trey Hendrickson
31:58
Speaker 1: and the Penn State offensive guard that's viewed as an
32:01
Speaker 1: immediate plug and play starter who's gonna be a pro bowler.
32:04
Speaker 1: I think we all agree that's probably the right move.
32:07
Speaker 1: Zion Young, the guy they took in the second round,
32:10
Speaker 1: was also a guy viewed very, very highly. I'd be
32:12
Speaker 1: stunned if that guy's not good. Now. I think I
32:14
Speaker 1: got two questions when it comes to the Ravens. One
32:18
Speaker 1: the biggest question mark last year Lamar Jackson like missed
32:22
Speaker 1: multiple games and did not look like himself now could
32:26
Speaker 1: have just been wearing tear injuries. He played thirteen games
32:31
Speaker 1: twenty one touchdown, seven interceptions, He was sacked a bunch
32:34
Speaker 1: thirty six times. If he's right and going, you would
32:38
Speaker 1: think the Ravens will be right in the mix. But
32:41
Speaker 1: we have a new offensive coordinator, first time offensive coordinator,
32:44
Speaker 1: brand new head coach. You lose your center, you lose
32:47
Speaker 1: Isaiah likely Metabouke. Like, what's his deal with the neck injury?
32:52
Speaker 1: Is he ever gonna be the same because a couple
32:54
Speaker 1: of years ago he was awesome. Now that they still
32:58
Speaker 1: you know from Rokwan Smith, Wiggins, the dude from Clemson,
33:04
Speaker 1: obviously Kyle Hamilton, you had Trey, you had Zion. Their
33:09
Speaker 1: defense in theory with was Jesse Mentor should be pretty good.
33:14
Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me if they win eleven games. It
33:17
Speaker 1: also wouldn't shock me if they're eight and nine again.
33:20
Speaker 1: So you got to tell me, like how many games
33:22
Speaker 1: Lamar play? It was last year in aberration, just banged up,
33:25
Speaker 1: so that looked weird, Like part of what makes Lamar special.
33:29
Speaker 1: This is what Deshaun Watson forgot. This is what obviously
33:32
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts forgets. Something like you're a dual threat guy,
33:35
Speaker 1: and when Lamar's humming has a dual threat guy, he's unsolvable.
33:38
Speaker 1: I mean some of those plays he made in that
33:40
Speaker 1: final game against Pittsburgh, it was like, holy shit. That
33:43
Speaker 1: one play where he like scrambled out and threw that touchdown.
33:46
Speaker 1: Grant had blown coverage, but one of the most incredible
33:49
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage plays you'll ever see. Question
33:54
Speaker 1: for the mailbag thoughts on the Pats draft and offseason.
33:57
Speaker 1: Seems like the majority of opinion is a bigger grie,
34:00
Speaker 1: but the roster has improved on paper. No major departure.
34:03
Speaker 1: Year three, Drake, your two coaching staff schedule will be
34:06
Speaker 1: a lot tougher. Not saying they should be a super
34:08
Speaker 1: Bowl favorite, but better than a borderline playoff team. Also,
34:11
Speaker 1: you mentioned now it's time for gms such as Joe
34:14
Speaker 1: Shane could be fired. When gms are fired, does the
34:17
Speaker 1: entire scouting department end up on the hot seat. It
34:20
Speaker 1: looks like Joe Shane's gonna survive. So not only is
34:24
Speaker 1: he not fired, he uh wouldn't stun mean at this
34:28
Speaker 1: point in time, you watch those videos and feels like
34:30
Speaker 1: they're pretty close. It wasn't fake that maybe gets a
34:34
Speaker 1: contract extension. I would say that my biggest question mark
34:39
Speaker 1: with new England is not the team, it's the coach.
34:44
Speaker 1: And like when Tiger Woods got into that, it wasn't
34:49
Speaker 1: even a car accident that this was like the first
34:51
Speaker 1: one his wife hit him in the face with a
34:54
Speaker 1: nine iron and he was on ambien and backed up
34:56
Speaker 1: into the fire hydrant. He's gotten some legit car acxis
35:00
Speaker 1: SIDS without that, but no one ever looked at him
35:03
Speaker 1: the same. He had a press conference with his with
35:05
Speaker 1: his with his mom about who was going to sex
35:08
Speaker 1: rehab and he was like a sex addict. It's just
35:11
Speaker 1: not the same. Now Vrabel hasn't done that, But like
35:14
Speaker 1: we're all judging when we look at Mike Rabel, it's
35:17
Speaker 1: like we all have different thoughts in our head and
35:20
Speaker 1: clearly it impacted him because he left ur in the draft.
35:24
Speaker 1: It's been weird. He's a human being. There's no way
35:27
Speaker 1: he could walk down the halls in New England with
35:30
Speaker 1: his team with Josh, with his coaches and have the
35:33
Speaker 1: normal same swag that he that he's had for his
35:37
Speaker 1: whole life. Then right now when everyone's taking pictures of him,
35:40
Speaker 1: like if Mike Rabel just walked tonight in downtown Boston
35:45
Speaker 1: and got fucking soft serve. Everyone would be taking pictures
35:48
Speaker 1: of him. And it's not just because he the head
35:50
Speaker 1: coach of the Patriots. We all know why. It's like
35:52
Speaker 1: he's a circus animal, you know, like what TMZ the
35:55
Speaker 1: way they treat some of these celebrities, So that to me,
36:00
Speaker 1: he's a huge question mark. They draft Lomo in the
36:03
Speaker 1: first round. Talented offensive lineman should fit right in and
36:08
Speaker 1: give them some flexibility. If Will Campbell can either become
36:13
Speaker 1: a high end left tackle or eventually move to guard,
36:16
Speaker 1: maybe you can figure it out. There a lot of
36:18
Speaker 1: people like Jackets, the Illinois pass rusher. I don't know
36:22
Speaker 1: much about the Notre Dame tight end. They took it
36:24
Speaker 1: in the second round. They signed Romeo Dobbs, mad Kyle Williams,
36:29
Speaker 1: last year rookie from Washington State. They got Trey Hendrickson,
36:32
Speaker 1: Not Trey Hendrickson. Trey Henderson, the Traveon Henderson, the running
36:37
Speaker 1: back from Ohio State who at any moment can bust
36:39
Speaker 1: a ninety yard run. So in theory, you have a
36:43
Speaker 1: young star quarterback, you have an established playoff head coach
36:49
Speaker 1: and a dominant offensive coordinator, and your head coach's defensive guy,
36:54
Speaker 1: you should be set up even if you quote unquote
36:56
Speaker 1: regress because how many games did the New England Patriots
37:00
Speaker 1: win last year? Fourteen? They won, yeah, fourteen and three,
37:04
Speaker 1: Like they could be in theory better and win eleven
37:07
Speaker 1: or twelve. But to me, the Rabel thing is just weird.
37:10
Speaker 1: There's no way around it. Like he's just gonna be
37:13
Speaker 1: completely normal in August. This all just passes because a
37:16
Speaker 1: huge part of football is like you get a huge
37:19
Speaker 1: summer break. This is not college where you're just recruiting
37:23
Speaker 1: three sixty five. In the NFL, you get like forty
37:26
Speaker 1: days to spend with your family, you know, I mean awkward?
37:34
Speaker 1: Maybe not, maybe they're in an open relayship. I don't know.
37:38
Speaker 1: I love the show. Been falling for decades now. Not me,
37:41
Speaker 1: but Colin thoughts. On multiple years of week NFL drafts.
37:44
Speaker 1: You and Colin have discussed the impacts of parents not
37:47
Speaker 1: allowing kids to play football and the trickle effect of
37:50
Speaker 1: depth for NFL draft and fewer top level players. Collins
37:55
Speaker 1: mentioned that a lot I don't know anyone in my
37:58
Speaker 1: life or in my experiences where football is becoming an
38:03
Speaker 1: issue of people not playing. I was just talking to
38:06
Speaker 1: a college coaching buddy in southern California. He was at
38:09
Speaker 1: all the top programs. He said, they look like they
38:11
Speaker 1: look like college programs. Being in Arizona, this is a
38:15
Speaker 1: hot bed for recruiting in high school football. It's not
38:19
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, but I mean it's really good produce a
38:21
Speaker 1: ton of Division I prospects here in the Scottsdale area,
38:24
Speaker 1: in the greater you know, Scottsdale area down to Tucson,
38:29
Speaker 1: where Bijon's from. So I don't have the same experience
38:33
Speaker 1: of And again, I don't have those type people in
38:35
Speaker 1: my life that would even think like that. So I'm
38:40
Speaker 1: the wrong person to like feel that high school football
38:43
Speaker 1: is dropping off the cliff. What about nil effects on
38:47
Speaker 1: the money for athletes at younger age and affecting their
38:49
Speaker 1: drive to perform at the highest level. I'm pro paying
38:52
Speaker 1: college players, but curious if there will be a trend
38:54
Speaker 1: like moving forward because money can make college students underperformed
38:58
Speaker 1: like it can affect pro athletes. As someone who lost
39:02
Speaker 1: father at a younger age and hits different when you
39:04
Speaker 1: become a dad yourself, I totally agree. You know what's
39:08
Speaker 1: funny is I asked friends a lot on the scouting
39:11
Speaker 1: just grind if they've seen a huge impact of when
39:17
Speaker 1: they talk to a coordinator at a big school and
39:20
Speaker 1: they're paying guys ton of money, if it's impacted like
39:24
Speaker 1: their driving, their focus, And I haven't heard that, which
39:27
Speaker 1: is pretty incredible my generation. If you would have given
39:31
Speaker 1: people I knew, hundreds of thousands of dollars, no way
39:33
Speaker 1: they would have worked as hard. But I have not
39:35
Speaker 1: gotten that sense at all. Maybe maybe it's because these
39:40
Speaker 1: guys are drinking less, which I guess society is. I'm
39:44
Speaker 1: not quite sure, Like, are college athletes drinking less than
39:49
Speaker 1: guys twenty years ago. I guess just based on the statistics,
39:52
Speaker 1: you would say, yes, that probably has somewhat of an
39:55
Speaker 1: impact of decision making. But I've actually heard positive things
40:00
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. I think it impacts more guys
40:04
Speaker 1: bouncing around than it does because the expectations once I
40:08
Speaker 1: got you and I'm paying you a lot of money
40:09
Speaker 1: is like we need you to produce, and it's intense.
40:12
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I haven't heard that many negative things,
40:15
Speaker 1: to be honest, and I talked to my buddies about
40:17
Speaker 1: it all the time, which is crazy. I mean, it's
40:23
Speaker 1: honestly a testament to this generation because I'll promise you this.
40:26
Speaker 1: People my age, late thirties, early forties would have handled
40:30
Speaker 1: it incredibly poorly, like it would have gone south fast.
40:36
Speaker 1: I always we talk about this a lot, like a
40:39
Speaker 1: couple buddies I played golf with in Arizona. I can't
40:43
Speaker 1: even imagine what it would be like being nineteen and this,
40:49
Speaker 1: you know, playing football and having someone pay you one
40:51
Speaker 1: hundred grand, let alone being one of these guys making
40:55
Speaker 1: seven figures, Because what would you even do with the
40:58
Speaker 1: money of these guys are in small towns. I don't
41:03
Speaker 1: even know, Like, what would you do? Pretty incredible that
41:09
Speaker 1: Mario Christobal has a high priced team and keeps those
41:12
Speaker 1: guys focused down there. This year's draft seemed very shallow,
41:17
Speaker 1: especially in the last couple rounds. I typically know at
41:20
Speaker 1: least the name of a couple of late round picks,
41:22
Speaker 1: but not this year. The consensus seems to be that
41:25
Speaker 1: this is a short term trend that will even out
41:28
Speaker 1: as we get further in the NIL era. I disagree.
41:32
Speaker 1: What tends to excite me about many late round picks
41:35
Speaker 1: is the mystery bag of upside for players that have
41:38
Speaker 1: little experience, played at a small school, or that could
41:41
Speaker 1: really develop with a year or two in an NFL program,
41:44
Speaker 1: as players freely transfer to bigger conferences and forego the
41:49
Speaker 1: draft for another year of nil money, I convince I
41:53
Speaker 1: think it'll be harder for teams to convince themselves of
41:56
Speaker 1: potential potential upside. Do you agree. I think there's a
42:00
Speaker 1: lot of guys over the last couple of years that
42:01
Speaker 1: were drafted in the second and third round, or maybe
42:04
Speaker 1: even the first would have been guys that were drafted
42:07
Speaker 1: later if the transfer portal didn't exist. Because if you
42:11
Speaker 1: are a guy at a smaller school, once you become good,
42:15
Speaker 1: you immediately transferred to a big boy for a lot
42:17
Speaker 1: of money. And once I'm playing in Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, Texas, Bama, Georgia,
42:22
Speaker 1: wherever LSU, every fucking person's watching me, every single person,
42:28
Speaker 1: and where I might have played at. It's a bad
42:33
Speaker 1: example because Ashton gent went sixth, and the San Diego
42:36
Speaker 1: State corner this year went in the first round, and
42:39
Speaker 1: the I think the Toledo safety went in the second round,
42:43
Speaker 1: and Quinnon Mitchell so obviously small school I was at.
42:46
Speaker 1: Friend of state Ryan Matthews went twelfth. You know, it's
42:49
Speaker 1: not like you couldn't get drafted high being an elite prospect.
42:53
Speaker 1: But then that second tier guy that now goes pick
42:55
Speaker 1: forty because I'm playing at Missouri would have been at
43:00
Speaker 1: McNee state, and that guy might have gone in the
43:03
Speaker 1: fourth round or the fifth round. And we look back
43:05
Speaker 1: and we go, God, this is the best fourth round
43:09
Speaker 1: pick of this GM's career. Where now that guy's playing
43:13
Speaker 1: at LSU, where he's playing at Miami, and he just
43:17
Speaker 1: goes in the second round. So I think these guys
43:23
Speaker 1: which I heard, I watched Ed Dodds, he's the assistant
43:29
Speaker 1: GM for the Indianapolis Colts, and he used an example
43:35
Speaker 1: of the safety the AJ Halsey, the safety they took
43:40
Speaker 1: in the third round from LSU who transferred. You know,
43:45
Speaker 1: I think he's played at so the guy they just
43:49
Speaker 1: drafted in the third round pick, what pick was? He
43:53
Speaker 1: picked seventy eight, which you know, it's like, if you're
43:57
Speaker 1: a third round pick in the NFL, that's pretty good.
44:01
Speaker 1: He started his career at New Mexico and then he
44:04
Speaker 1: transferred to Houston, and then he played his last season
44:07
Speaker 1: at LSU, which while they had a disastrous season with
44:10
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, they've been good on defense the last couple
44:13
Speaker 1: of years. So I think it's fair to say if
44:17
Speaker 1: he had, just if it's two thousand and nine and
44:19
Speaker 1: this same player just plays at New Mexico, instead of
44:23
Speaker 1: picked seventy eight, he might be picked one fifty eight
44:26
Speaker 1: and instead of being a third rounder, he's a fifth rounder.
44:29
Speaker 1: And let's just say for argument's sake, that AJ goes
44:33
Speaker 1: on to be a ten year NFL starter and get
44:36
Speaker 1: a second contract and become a really good player. I
44:39
Speaker 1: think a big reason that they were probably all over
44:42
Speaker 1: him and willing to use the seventy eighth pick is
44:44
Speaker 1: because of his year at LSU. You know, so even
44:48
Speaker 1: if he had been at Houston, maybe he goes fifty
44:51
Speaker 1: picks farther because it's not quite the same of playing Georgia,
44:55
Speaker 1: of playing you know, Miami, of playing whoever, Clemson, all
45:00
Speaker 1: the high end teams that you played LSU, and just
45:04
Speaker 1: if you just go to a practice and you watch
45:05
Speaker 1: LSU practice, I got NFL players everywhere. It's not the
45:08
Speaker 1: same in New Mexico and Houston. So I think it
45:10
Speaker 1: has a I think transferring has a much more uh.
45:18
Speaker 1: It is much more impactful to the draft than like
45:22
Speaker 1: NIO money. Now they're directly connected because I'm sure LSU
45:27
Speaker 1: paid him to transfer from Houston. But I think once
45:31
Speaker 1: you get to these programs and I'm paying you seven
45:33
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty grand, like my expectations are pretty high.
45:38
Speaker 1: Think about this. If you're listening to this and you're
45:40
Speaker 1: a younger person, you're in your twenties, if you're doing well,
45:43
Speaker 1: let's say you're making a couple hundred grand. If I
45:45
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45:48
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45:51
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45:54
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45:56
Speaker 1: I think it's part of the deal now with the NIO.
45:58
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46:02
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46:04
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47:35
Speaker 1: love the pod. I have a question about the new
47:36
Speaker 1: trend about rookies wearing retired special numbers. Obviously there's the
47:40
Speaker 1: Flora's situation with Mendoza, but now Mikay Lemon has taken
47:44
Speaker 1: nine from Foles for the Eagles, which to me is
47:47
Speaker 1: an Eagles fan, is a big no no. Nick Foles
47:50
Speaker 1: is a backup quarterback who led us to our first
47:52
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. No one should be wearing that number for
47:54
Speaker 1: a long time. And although Foles is a statue, it's
47:56
Speaker 1: owned by Bud Light, So who knows how long you
47:59
Speaker 1: will stick around if Mackay is a bust or gone
48:02
Speaker 1: in five years. I will never forget the Eagles for
48:04
Speaker 1: allowing that. Josh Sweat said he was not allowed to
48:07
Speaker 1: wear the number, and Sweat won another Super Bowl for
48:09
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Personally, I couldn't care less if they get
48:12
Speaker 1: the blessing from the original player. This to me is
48:14
Speaker 1: an organizational call. In general, what is the point of
48:18
Speaker 1: retiring a number if someone could just ask to wear it,
48:21
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I would say basketball, where you
48:26
Speaker 1: got twelve players, right, if you retired fifteen numbers, it
48:31
Speaker 1: shouldn't impact you that much because you've got so many options.
48:35
Speaker 1: You have so few players, and football can be a
48:37
Speaker 1: little more difficult because they've kind of Jerry manner. I
48:43
Speaker 1: don't know if that works for this example, but the
48:46
Speaker 1: way that different positions can wear different numbers, like I'm
48:49
Speaker 1: a traditionalist, Like, if you're wearing nine, you should you,
48:52
Speaker 1: Josh sweat. I don't like my defensive linemen to wear
48:55
Speaker 1: single digit numbers. Wear a number in the fifties, or
48:58
Speaker 1: wear a number in the nineties. If you're an offensive lineman,
49:01
Speaker 1: you wear a number in the fifties or sixties. If
49:03
Speaker 1: you're a wide receiver, you wear a number in the eighties.
49:07
Speaker 1: You know, if you're a running back, you wear a
49:08
Speaker 1: number in the twenties or the thirties. Like again, call
49:10
Speaker 1: me traditional list, call me old man, get off my lawn.
49:15
Speaker 1: I would I treat numbers a little bit like I
49:22
Speaker 1: do awards, Like I don't get that emotionally moved. Like
49:26
Speaker 1: I truly at this point in time in my life
49:28
Speaker 1: don't give a shit who wins an MVP. I really don't.
49:32
Speaker 1: I don't care about the Pro Bowl All Pro. It
49:36
Speaker 1: does matter so like, but random guys don't make the
49:39
Speaker 1: All Pro team. But if you make the All Pro team,
49:41
Speaker 1: you earn that shit. If you're an All American in college,
49:44
Speaker 1: you earned that. If you're an MVP, you earned it.
49:48
Speaker 1: But like I can understand, like, hey, we went with
49:50
Speaker 1: this guy, said this guy, I got no issue. I
49:52
Speaker 1: don't really get that caught up in numbers. Like I said,
49:55
Speaker 1: I would be okay with going to what we used
49:57
Speaker 1: to have. I think Brady was on this too. You
49:59
Speaker 1: shouldn't have single, did you guys? Line it up a
50:01
Speaker 1: d tackle? This is in college, but it is what
50:04
Speaker 1: it is, and I hear you. I can't get that
50:09
Speaker 1: worked up. I do think it is stupid, though, I'm
50:13
Speaker 1: with you if a number is retired. Was Abdul Carter
50:17
Speaker 1: last year who called like Lawrence Taylor, It's like, no, Abdul,
50:20
Speaker 1: You're not wearing Lawrence Taylor's number. He could show up
50:23
Speaker 1: late on crack and still get three sacks. You show
50:26
Speaker 1: up late and get bitched. Which I like Abdual Carter.
50:29
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. I think he can be a
50:31
Speaker 1: great player on a one to ten scale. How much
50:35
Speaker 1: do NFL executives care about what fans think or say
50:40
Speaker 1: on Twitter? And how much do they actually care what
50:43
Speaker 1: media people say on their pods. I think it has
50:47
Speaker 1: to do with your security level. Like I don't think
50:52
Speaker 1: I've heard very successful people kind of take backward jabs
50:57
Speaker 1: of like, hey, they say all the time around here,
50:59
Speaker 1: we don't we're not aggressive enough, or they say all
51:02
Speaker 1: the time around here, we shouldn't have let so and
51:05
Speaker 1: so walk. We're all human beings. And if you work
51:10
Speaker 1: in football, like most in my experience being in college
51:15
Speaker 1: football around Pat Hill and then being around Andy and
51:19
Speaker 1: Howie and Beach like, these guys like football. So if
51:23
Speaker 1: you love they love football. If you love football, you're
51:26
Speaker 1: gonna listen to people that talk about football. So you're
51:28
Speaker 1: naturally gonna listen to some of the media stuff, right,
51:31
Speaker 1: And whether you like the guy or don't like the guy,
51:34
Speaker 1: maybe that impacts your opinion. But like if Pat McAfee
51:40
Speaker 1: during the fall is talking to football all day and
51:43
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter is on break like they're paying attention. Now,
51:46
Speaker 1: how much do they care about I would say this,
51:50
Speaker 1: if you are in a position of power in a company,
51:56
Speaker 1: whether it's football, whether it's a fortune five hundred company,
51:58
Speaker 1: I don't care. And you let Twitter impact the way
52:02
Speaker 1: you're doing something, you're a fucking idiot and you're I
52:09
Speaker 1: will bet against you. Now if a customer personally says
52:13
Speaker 1: something to you, right, like if you owned the team
52:18
Speaker 1: and they came up to you as an owner and
52:19
Speaker 1: said your concession stands suck, the hot dogs are awful,
52:24
Speaker 1: the cheeseburgers, and you don't take that into account, like
52:27
Speaker 1: that's on you. But if the Denver Broncos lose a
52:31
Speaker 1: game and someone on Twitter is calling Sean Payton a
52:37
Speaker 1: terrible coach and he's awful play calls on third down,
52:41
Speaker 1: like you think that person knows more football than John Payton. Now,
52:45
Speaker 1: I think we can nitpick and argue over the draft stuff,
52:49
Speaker 1: but it's like who knows? So I I don't think
52:54
Speaker 1: most people worth their salt spend that much time worrying
52:57
Speaker 1: about it, especially in twenty twenty six, like maybe fifteen
53:01
Speaker 1: years ago it felt a little bit bigger, maybe ten
53:02
Speaker 1: years ago, it's it couldn't be any less relevant now.
53:06
Speaker 1: And if you can't turn off your phone and just
53:08
Speaker 1: do what you think is right, then that's on you
53:09
Speaker 1: and you're gonna fail now if you are specifically, like
53:15
Speaker 1: I think what hurts the media situation is people that
53:20
Speaker 1: talk for a living become friends with these people. I
53:24
Speaker 1: think Adam Schefter rap Sheet or McAfee or myself do
53:28
Speaker 1: a podcast. I consider people friends or definitely people that
53:33
Speaker 1: I will text. And if you're just out talking shit
53:37
Speaker 1: about him and then texting him about information like I
53:39
Speaker 1: could see the guy being like what you said is
53:42
Speaker 1: is completely wrong. So to me, there's a fine line
53:48
Speaker 1: between quote unquote fans and what media people are saying,
53:53
Speaker 1: especially if I'm giving you information then you go and
53:56
Speaker 1: bad bout me or say the wrong thing. I can understand.
53:58
Speaker 1: I get mad. I think that happened happens a lot.
54:02
Speaker 1: But the fan thing, I I think at this point
54:05
Speaker 1: in time probably happens less and less with people that
54:07
Speaker 1: are secure. What are your predictions on Ashon Genti's performance
54:14
Speaker 1: this year? He's in my dynasty league. Let's uh, what
54:20
Speaker 1: were his final stat line last year? In fairness to him,
54:24
Speaker 1: their offensive line was terrible all time mailing job by
54:27
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly. Just you know. Pete Carroll's kid, by all accounts,
54:32
Speaker 1: is one of the worst offensive line coaches ever. He
54:34
Speaker 1: averaged three point seven yards of carry, He had nine
54:37
Speaker 1: or seventy five yards, He had five touchdowns. His long
54:42
Speaker 1: run was sixty four yards. I think I remember that game.
54:45
Speaker 1: He how many catches does he have? He had fifty
54:49
Speaker 1: five catches for three n forty yards. A lot of
54:53
Speaker 1: checkdowns and how many touchdowns you have me? He didn't
54:59
Speaker 1: have ten touchdowns like year rushing and receiving combined five each.
55:03
Speaker 1: Not it's probably not in fifty five catches now. Granted
55:07
Speaker 1: they weren't productive, but because he's the only average of
55:11
Speaker 1: six yards of catch, not as bad as I think
55:14
Speaker 1: people think. I if you told me rushes for fourteen
55:18
Speaker 1: hundred yards and has ten rushing touchdowns, could he be
55:23
Speaker 1: the most improved player of the year this year? I listen,
55:26
Speaker 1: you guys know where I stand. Thought it was a
55:29
Speaker 1: pretty bold pick. Didn't totally love it, but I think
55:33
Speaker 1: I love by all accounts of the human being. He's
55:36
Speaker 1: an easy got a root for in terms of you
55:40
Speaker 1: know what he stands for, high character, his story coming
55:44
Speaker 1: from Boise, I like a little running backs. I was
55:49
Speaker 1: a huge darren Sprolls guy. Barry Sanders one of my
55:53
Speaker 1: favorite athletes of all time. He was like five eight
55:57
Speaker 1: not comparing Nation Jens to Barry Sanders. But I think
56:01
Speaker 1: it's fair to think thirteen fourteen hundred yards and five
56:04
Speaker 1: more touchdowns total in the aggregate. I think in a
56:08
Speaker 1: perfect world you would like around thirteen hundred yards rushing.
56:12
Speaker 1: I think as a receiving numbers, if you tell me
56:14
Speaker 1: he catches fifty five balls. Again, that's good. I think
56:17
Speaker 1: you'd probably like that number to be more like six
56:19
Speaker 1: hundred yards, not as terrible. I would have guessed if
56:22
Speaker 1: you'd have said, how many catches did Ashton genty have
56:24
Speaker 1: last year? I'm thenk like twenty fifty five catches? Who
56:28
Speaker 1: led the team? Bowers in sixty four, Trey Tucker with
56:33
Speaker 1: fifty seven and him with fifty five. God, they had
56:36
Speaker 1: a rough year. Sixty four catches, six hundred yards for
56:40
Speaker 1: Bowers not great. Seven touchdowns wind on. This kind of
56:44
Speaker 1: be cool if the Raiders made a little comeback. Can
56:47
Speaker 1: you explain how quarterback competitions and training cant work. Is
56:50
Speaker 1: there some sort of grading system that both quarterbacks are
56:52
Speaker 1: measured against, or it's just how coaches quote feel is better.
56:57
Speaker 1: I think at this point in time, I mentioned this
56:59
Speaker 1: earlier that with the Kyler Murray and JJ, I think
57:06
Speaker 1: coaches go in with some sort of idea who they
57:11
Speaker 1: think is going to be the quarterback at the first
57:13
Speaker 1: or second spot. So most teams at this point in time,
57:17
Speaker 1: if you look around the league, don't have a competition
57:19
Speaker 1: at one like I don't think the Minnesota Vikings have
57:22
Speaker 1: a competition. I think Kyler Murray's are starting quarterback is
57:27
Speaker 1: the quarterback competition and with the Raiders a competition like
57:31
Speaker 1: no in a perfect world, they want for Nanda Mendoza
57:33
Speaker 1: to be the starter, but if he's not ready, they
57:35
Speaker 1: go with cousins like that. To me, that's not a competition.
57:39
Speaker 1: We definitely have some backup quarterback competitions, and I think
57:43
Speaker 1: they're judged by every throw they make. A lot of
57:47
Speaker 1: times an individual through team is graded and accounted for.
57:53
Speaker 1: Practices mean something. OTA's how you know the playbook, how
57:57
Speaker 1: you handle everything in the line of scrimmage, through training camp,
58:01
Speaker 1: and once the pads come on and it starts getting
58:04
Speaker 1: exponentially more important. So what you do the next couple
58:08
Speaker 1: weeks at a practice in the middle of May is
58:11
Speaker 1: important and you're getting judged on it. But then as
58:14
Speaker 1: you come back from summer break and we go into
58:19
Speaker 1: training camp, you get judged harder. Pads come on, way
58:22
Speaker 1: more intense and live drills where you really separate yourself.
58:27
Speaker 1: Those in a preseason game, and if you make plays
58:29
Speaker 1: in a preseason game, it's it's it's worth a lot.
58:35
Speaker 1: But all these decisions come down to really two things.
58:39
Speaker 1: Who the coaching staff owner and GM think is the
58:44
Speaker 1: better player, whether it's short term, long term, and the money.
58:51
Speaker 1: Cause if I'm paying this guy five million dollars, maybe
58:53
Speaker 1: I keep all three court quarterbacks, like there's a backup competition,
58:58
Speaker 1: but I've already guaranteed the backup five million dollars and
59:02
Speaker 1: the other guy's a seventh round rookie. That happened the
59:05
Speaker 1: one year with Party, right, they couldn't put Purty as
59:09
Speaker 1: like the backup to Trey Lance over Jimmy Garoppolo, even
59:12
Speaker 1: though I think they thought Perty might be better in
59:14
Speaker 1: trad like, they loved him, so they just kept him
59:17
Speaker 1: on the roster. Now, granted that's a good exam. That
59:20
Speaker 1: wasn't even a competition. He just ran with the threes.
59:23
Speaker 1: So sometimes you make the team because you play really well,
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Speaker 1: but you're not even competing. Like, how many quarterback competitions
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Speaker 1: around the league do we have? There aren't that many.
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Speaker 1: Even the backup jobs typically determined by the money, and
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Speaker 1: so you go in. This guy gets the reps with
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Speaker 1: the ones, this guy gets the reps with the twos,
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Speaker 1: this guy gets the reps with the threes. But then
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Speaker 1: if the third quarterback by the end of camp, you're
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Speaker 1: like he might be better. You just kind of keep
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Speaker 1: all three and then you just It's very, very difficult
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Speaker 1: because unlike these other sports, I can just give you
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Speaker 1: a month as like a G League player, bring them up,
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Speaker 1: play them a bunch of NBA games. See what I got?
1:00:02
Speaker 1: Same thing in baseball, I can I can call a
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Speaker 1: guy up and play them a bunch of games. In
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Speaker 1: right field batom fifth every game in football, you just
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Speaker 1: throw the quarterback out there, even the backup, right if
1:00:13
Speaker 1: you think, like I think our third stringer, this fifth
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Speaker 1: round rookie is better than Gardner Minshew. And again I'm
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Speaker 1: just picking some random backup. But I'm paying Gardner Minshew
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Speaker 1: seven million dollars if I go into a game, Do
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Speaker 1: I feel confident like that that is actually true? Because
1:00:34
Speaker 1: if my starting quarterback breaks is late, that fifth round
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Speaker 1: rookie goes in, and if it's ugly, I'm gonna get ripped.
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Speaker 1: Where even if Gardner Minshew sucks, like, well, you're putting
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Speaker 1: Garner Minshew. So I think there are a lot of variables,
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Speaker 1: especially in twenty twenty six, and it just doesn't happen.
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Speaker 1: It happens a lot in college. It's actually much more
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Speaker 1: rare in the NFL when you really think about it,
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Speaker 1: like we're going into camp, we think we're gonna be
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Speaker 1: pretty good. Like how many teams that think they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be pretty good? Like quarterback competition, I don't even think
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Speaker 1: if we just look at the league, does it even
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Speaker 1: exist anywhere standings? Even bad teams like the Miami Dolphins
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Speaker 1: have their starting quarterback. If Rogers resigns, starting quarterbacks starting
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Speaker 1: quarterback Cleveland, like Deshaun Watson's winning that job. There's no competition. Jacksonville, Houston,
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Speaker 1: Indy Titans, Nope, Denver Chargers, Chiefs, Raiders. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: don't Cousins and Mendoz doesn't count, Eagles, Cowboys, Commanders, John
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just they don't exist. Panthers, Bucks, I guess, Falcons.
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Speaker 1: If Pennix is healthy, does he have to compete against Tua?
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Speaker 1: That might fall Seattle, Rams, Niners, Cardinal I mean they're
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Speaker 1: just Jacobe says the starter if if he's healthy. It
1:01:52
Speaker 1: feels like it used to happen way up more often.
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Speaker 1: So I hope that's a long winded way of answering
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Speaker 1: the question that there's not a concrete It's like you
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Speaker 1: do X Y and Z you're winning the job. There's
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Speaker 1: still a lot of gut feel and that's where the
1:02:08
Speaker 1: coach and the coordinator and the quarterback coach have a
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Speaker 1: lot of influence in the GM, I just like this
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Speaker 1: guy more by drafting them, we paid them. We believe
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Speaker 1: in them. That's the other thing. There's a lot of
1:02:20
Speaker 1: intangible stuff with the quarterback. Do you know the fucking place?
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Speaker 1: Do you know all the checks and the audibles the offense?
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Speaker 1: Do you have a rapport with your teammates? Do they
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Speaker 1: like you? Would they believe in You could Dick for
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Speaker 1: meals stand up there and say, we're gonna win with
1:02:34
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner even if he might have been BS and
1:02:37
Speaker 1: but whoever that player is in Kurt Warner's shoes, Like,
1:02:40
Speaker 1: can the coach look at the team and go, we
1:02:42
Speaker 1: believe in this guy. Sometimes you do and sometimes you don't.
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Speaker 1: So if the team believes in the guy and your
1:02:50
Speaker 1: team's good, I think that guy's always gonna get the
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Speaker 1: benefit of doubt, even if he's quote unquote not as
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Speaker 1: talented as as competition. The volume MMM