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Will Atlanta Get a Third NHL Teamz? · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: Happy with everybody. Welcome to a special edition of the
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  Speaker 1: Sports Exchange. And why do I say this is special?
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  Speaker 1: This is more topics specific. If you want to call
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  Speaker 1: it a hockey show, yeah we can do that too.
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  Speaker 1: But my name is Scott Mortar, MotorCity Man, mounth have
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  Speaker 1: a really good crew on here. Tonight the title will
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  Speaker 1: be will Atlanta get a third NHL team? And we'll
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  Speaker 1: break down some other expansion candidates as well. Yeah, Candy,
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  Speaker 1: We're going to stay with that format tonight for good reason,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm able to keep track of what we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm glad to have Joshua Drop pouncing on here
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  Speaker 1: to get in here. Very good stuff. So but that's that.
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  Speaker 1: I want to introduce our expansion Guru's name is Cliff Neil.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you give her everybody an introduction about where
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  Speaker 1: you're at and why you got started with this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually I work as a professor at Towns University
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  Speaker 2: in taws And, Maryland. I lived in Lakes, Pennsylvania. I
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  Speaker 2: spent sixteen years in the television news industry behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a hockey fan from nineteen eighty The Miracle on Ice,
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  Speaker 2: That's what got me started with this, and I just
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  Speaker 2: have always been into, you know, following expansion. I've all
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  Speaker 2: been all about that, and I've always had a problem
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of times how they organize it, and
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  Speaker 2: I think I can do it better. So and it's
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  Speaker 2: just it's just I just I care about the game,
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  Speaker 2: and that's that's why I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, thanks for joining us. Can't to Night a
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  Speaker 1: regular on the Wednesday show, And of course we have
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  Speaker 1: Cody Is joining us as well from out in Anaheim.
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  Speaker 1: I know he's on call with this trucking company, but
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  Speaker 1: he always likes to come on. We a get an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity because this is an opportunity to let him talk
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  Speaker 1: about expansion. And we have George I. Corner and Jacob
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  Speaker 1: Christner of the regulars as well on the program. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get going here. First of all, let's talk about Atlanta's
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  Speaker 1: teacher sports schedule. They hosted the twenty twenty five MLB
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  Speaker 1: All Star Game, the twenty twenty five College Football National Title,
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five REFA World Club World Cup, and
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  Speaker 1: now up ahead for Atlanta they have the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: six World Cup, the twenty twenty eight Super Bowl, and
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  Speaker 1: the twenty thirty one Men's Final four. All right, Cliff,
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  Speaker 1: First of all, here's what you've got. Okay, Atlanta is
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  Speaker 1: definitely prime to go out there and host a lot
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  Speaker 1: of events. How do you like the lineup that they've
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  Speaker 1: had to try to get big events?
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  Speaker 2: That's great, that's fine. I have a problem with them
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  Speaker 2: having a hockey team, but you know, that's it is different.
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  Speaker 2: Georgia has definitely grown in the last few years. In
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  Speaker 2: addition to all those wonderful sports things, Tyler Perry has
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  Speaker 2: since started his production company down there. They're doing lots
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  Speaker 2: of stuff. If you notice when you watch Disney Plus,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff come out in Georgia. So
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  Speaker 2: there's you know, it's a it's a hot state, and
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  Speaker 2: it's great. Those sports are great, FIFA and basketball and
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  Speaker 2: all those other things. In the football it's all great.
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  Speaker 2: What's that got to do with hockey? You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's it's failed twice, and from what I hear, it's
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  Speaker 2: a good It's not even in Atlanta. It's in Forsyth County,
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  Speaker 2: about thirty to forty miles north.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to that shortly. I just want to
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  Speaker 1: get your thoughts about Atlanta getting an awful lot of activity.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like it's a hot place for hot events.
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  Speaker 1: Along the fact that they've built a couple of stadiums.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like another one on the way. All right,
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  Speaker 1: next stuff is Jacob Kristner in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: I live here in Apa, out of Georgia, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And the big thing about it is, it's if I
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  Speaker 4: would stay in this certain area right now, the hockey Stadium,
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  Speaker 4: they would be tearing down the mall and I would
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  Speaker 4: be about two miles for.
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  Speaker 1: Me, Well, what are your thoughts taken about all the
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  Speaker 1: events that have taken place and are going to take place?
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  Speaker 3: Believable?
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, Land is growing enormously and it's and it
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  Speaker 4: is going to be the new Hollywood. It really is
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  Speaker 4: the new Hollywood right now. The events are the events
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  Speaker 4: are unreal. They have they keep that and they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be having final fours, there's no question about that, right.
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  Speaker 4: The big thing about this is the big thing though.
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  Speaker 4: You got to realize this cliff. They also were they
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  Speaker 4: weren't doing exceptionally well at the Turner Field because people
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  Speaker 4: didn't want to go at night. They're doing even even
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  Speaker 4: with the Braves right now, and Yeah, they're struggling. People
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  Speaker 4: want to be in the battery, right, People want to
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  Speaker 4: be better. The thing about it is, they're gonna there's
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  Speaker 4: no question in my mind. With the amount of space
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  Speaker 4: and I met that mall all the time, two miles
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  Speaker 4: from it, no, two to three miles, no question in
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  Speaker 4: my mind, they're going to build another battery type thing
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  Speaker 4: for the thing to make it work, To make that
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  Speaker 4: work over there. As far as the hockey to try
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  Speaker 4: to make that this I because where it was the
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  Speaker 4: last time to what people don't want to go through that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Jacob, let me point out something, and I
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  Speaker 1: know that we're you're ahead of me. I knew this
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  Speaker 1: was the type of topic that would warrant people thinking ahead.
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  Speaker 1: And there's no problem with that whatsoever. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to make that very clear upfront. The bottom line, Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: is a hot place for a bitch. That's all I'm
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  Speaker 1: going here. The other stuff will get to in just
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  Speaker 1: a moment, I promise you. So that said, Okay, are
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  Speaker 1: you pretty impressed the fact that Atlanta's getting all these events? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been here twenty years and I've watched it grow.
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  Speaker 4: I have watched to grow, and I haven't impressed with it.
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  Speaker 4: And the thing was, it really did well, considering that
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  Speaker 4: it couldn't have possibly done well. And when they tore
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  Speaker 4: took the All Star Game away in the first time around,
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  Speaker 4: you would have thought that people wouldn't have but they
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  Speaker 4: showed up. They showed up. I was there at the
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  Speaker 4: All Star weekend. They definitely showed up. People wanted it.
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  Speaker 4: It's Atlanta is an enormously growing city. So yeah, there's
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  Speaker 4: the idea, and there isn't a question, and I know
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  Speaker 4: that you keep.
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  Speaker 1: Going, Okay, okay, George, your daughter lives there, Yeah, she does.
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  Speaker 5: My daughter and my son in law love it in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they get a lot of big events. Obviously in Detroit, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they've been getting a lot of big ones. So it
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  Speaker 1: looks like Atlanta's not place to put a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Of Definitely, definitely, yeah, Scott, it's one of the top venues.
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  Speaker 5: I would put Indianapolis in that category, but let's just
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  Speaker 5: talk about Atlanta. Yeah, they got one of the busiest
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  Speaker 5: airports in the world. They have a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: coming in and out of that city and a great
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  Speaker 5: population based in the metropolitan area. But yeah, they are
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  Speaker 5: they are good hosts for these big events that come,
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  Speaker 5: whether it's n Cuba or NFL or whatever, They've done
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  Speaker 5: a great job and they continue to do a good job.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I think Atlanta is a sort of like
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  Speaker 5: a five star, you know, destination for sports, you know,
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  Speaker 5: both college and pro.
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  Speaker 1: Okay Man totally.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'm on the complete opposite side of the country
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  Speaker 6: to really have a lot of opinion. But I mean
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  Speaker 6: I was when I first got into hockey the Thrashers
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  Speaker 6: were around, you know, I just remember Danny Heatley just
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  Speaker 6: tearing it up there. But I mean, I would love
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  Speaker 6: for there to be a new team in Atlanta. As
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  Speaker 6: long as they get the right ownership and the right
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  Speaker 6: area to get this done, I think I think it
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  Speaker 6: would be good, especially since, like I know, the Braves
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  Speaker 6: have been struggling, but they just recently won a World Series.
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  Speaker 6: Georgia football has been one of the most dominant college
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  Speaker 6: football teams lately, you know, the I know the Hawks
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  Speaker 6: have been up and down down there and everything. But
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  Speaker 6: I mean, as like I said, as long as they
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  Speaker 6: get the right ownership and the right front office and
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  Speaker 6: do everything right, then I can see There's been a
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  Speaker 6: lot differently than the Atlanta Flames and the Thrashers did.
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  Speaker 6: But I just hope they bring back the Thrashers because
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  Speaker 6: I love those sweaters that they had there.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well we're gonna talk. I'm gonna mention a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of well the Thrashers in a moment, they'll just
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  Speaker 1: be an FYI I know what need for everybody to
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  Speaker 1: comment on it. So I guess that leaves it up
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  Speaker 1: to Andy.
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  Speaker 7: So Atlanta has been growing and it has a population
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  Speaker 7: of what over five hundred thousand. People like they should
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  Speaker 7: get some of these big events. It shouldn't. And what
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  Speaker 7: I like is seeing these big events revolving and going
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  Speaker 7: from different places, different states, so different people in different
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  Speaker 7: venues so people can see it. They don't have to
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  Speaker 7: travel as far. Yes, some of the big, big events
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  Speaker 7: you're going to get your big celebrities always that go
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  Speaker 7: to but I like it rotating and moving around so
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  Speaker 7: that different people can see it. Kudos to Atlanta for
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  Speaker 7: getting you know, some of these they've had some new
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  Speaker 7: stadiums and not two distant future or past. So I
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  Speaker 7: think it's cool that they're bringing some of the big,
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  Speaker 7: big events to Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I'll say one thing about Atlanta. I give them
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  Speaker 1: a lot of credit Turner Field. At least they did
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  Speaker 1: tear it down and they gave it to Georgia State
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  Speaker 1: University for football. A lot of ordinances like to tear
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  Speaker 1: down stadiums really quickly. They didn't do it. More power
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  Speaker 1: to them. I want to make sure we get that done.
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  Speaker 1: Two events on my radar would be God willing my
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  Speaker 1: healthholds up. Right now, I'm dealing with some challenges. The
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight Super Bowl and the twenty thirty one
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  Speaker 1: Men's Final Four. I've been to a Final four and
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  Speaker 1: eighty two, but as selfish as I am, i'd like
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  Speaker 1: to see Candy experience of Men's Final four. Consideration a
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  Speaker 1: whale of the job taking pictures of the women's Final four.
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  Speaker 1: So I know everybody wanted to get under the filet
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  Speaker 1: of the host show, but I'm gonna mention an FYI
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  Speaker 1: to connect a little bit of what Cody said. The
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  Speaker 1: two Atlanta Thrashers are left in the NHL today. They
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  Speaker 1: are Evander Kaine and Zach goes In. So those are
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  Speaker 1: the two that are left and we'll move on from there.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight's non sports topic of the night TESA will now
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  Speaker 1: let all travelers keep shoes on how about that you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to take them off anymore. Man, that was
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  Speaker 1: a pain in the Bible like that anyways. Yeah, really
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  Speaker 1: it was a pain.
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  Speaker 6: Especially when you got big feet like I do. Man,
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  Speaker 6: those things barely fit in those bins.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah no I would. Yeah, that's stage. But now I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad that there we can keep them on. Anyways. And
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  Speaker 1: the other non sports topic of the night is if
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  Speaker 1: you're looking for gas a gas economy thing, you're not
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  Speaker 1: going to find out with a Boeing seven forty seven
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  Speaker 1: because it drinks a lot of gallon of fuel in
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  Speaker 1: a single second mid air. So there you go. Those
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  Speaker 1: are not for topic of the night. Figure. Why do
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  Speaker 1: we talk about travel because we care because how many
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  Speaker 1: people are going to be traveling to Atlanta to go
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  Speaker 1: out there and see the TVD team to be announced?
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  Speaker 1: Do we think? I don't know. Cliff has other ideas.
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  Speaker 1: But now that we're talking about expansion, the NHL is
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  Speaker 1: selling cities that you better pony up two billion dollars
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  Speaker 1: for a NHL expansion fee because that's exactly what the
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  Speaker 1: going rate is. All right, Well, I guess we're going
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  Speaker 1: to go back to Cody. What do you think about that?
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  Speaker 1: Two billion dollar expansion fee.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean didn't was it the lightning? Didn't they
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  Speaker 6: just come out at like one point nine billion dollars?
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  Speaker 6: I think, I know what, they're one of the highest
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  Speaker 6: uh valued teams. I know Toronto and Montreal I think
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  Speaker 6: are higher than that. But I mean for two billion
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  Speaker 6: dollars when what Utah was just for a billion dollars
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  Speaker 6: just recently, and was it Seattle was what seven hundred
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  Speaker 6: and fifty thousand or five hundred million, I can't remember
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  Speaker 6: exactly how much.
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  Speaker 2: Seattle was six point fifty Vegas was five hundred million.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, there you go.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I knew I was somewhere in the ballpark. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: But for to go from that to two billion, But
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  Speaker 6: I mean, look where the state of hockey is now.
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  Speaker 6: It's a lot different than when Vegas and Seattle came
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  Speaker 6: into the league. I mean, we're getting a lot more
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  Speaker 6: viewers now in my opinion, That's what I've just noticed.
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  Speaker 6: And everything, especially with Olympics coming back for hockey, I
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  Speaker 6: just think we're the sport's going to grow and grow.
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  Speaker 6: So I think the two billion dollars is about right
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  Speaker 6: for to bring it a team in right now with
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  Speaker 6: everything going on.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well that's what Richard. Check back when the telling
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  Speaker 1: people up there, two billion dollars gets you in hockey team,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think, Cliff, Well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you go over the course of how much
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  Speaker 2: it costs. You know, in sixty seven, nineteen sixty seven
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  Speaker 2: it was two million. Okay, Yeah, we just talked about
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  Speaker 2: six fifty and five hundred million for the last two teams.
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  Speaker 2: Just seems like a money grab by the league. I'm like, yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 2: they want to put in a new teams. Hey, I'm
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  Speaker 2: all about hockey. I love the game. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why more people don't like it. It seems to be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's it just seems to be that sport
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  Speaker 2: that is kind of niche. I don't know why. But yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna, yeah, should two billion. I thought they would
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  Speaker 2: just go straight up for the one billion. Next day
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  Speaker 2: said forget that, We're just gonna go straight for the
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  Speaker 2: two billion and see what they get. Maybe they get
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  Speaker 2: something from Atlanta because of that, and maybe that'll be
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  Speaker 2: the decision of why they put teams in certain markets.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, they can afford it, but should they be there?
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  Speaker 2: All right? Well for the long term, should they be there.
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  Speaker 2: Will it make the game better? Will it make sense?
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  Speaker 2: That's my whole concern about it. It's make I want
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  Speaker 2: I want the league to be the the Apex League.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, it's not because I think that's more the
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  Speaker 2: problem of the current management and the commissioner and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, George, two billion bucks, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll just
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  Speaker 1: write out a check anytime they're ready.
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  Speaker 5: But uh, really, uh that's a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot of money.
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  Speaker 5: But you know what, it's what the market demands, what
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  Speaker 5: the cities are willing and owners rich owners are willing
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  Speaker 5: to anty up. Plus of course you got a huge
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  Speaker 5: infrastructure behind you and setting up a team. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that price continues to go up in all the sports.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Vegas and Seattle the two most recent ones.
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  Speaker 5: They've done a nice job. But yeah, when I saw
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  Speaker 5: that a little bit of sticker shock form, you gotta
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  Speaker 5: be honest with you, I didn't think there was going
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  Speaker 5: to be two billion, But uh yeah, I mean that's
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  Speaker 5: the going right nowadays. Everything's going up.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, hockey has become more popular.
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  Speaker 5: I agree, and I think that the cities are really
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  Speaker 5: anxious and buttoning at the chimp to try to get
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  Speaker 5: into the NHL. So we'll talk more about that, I
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  Speaker 5: know a little bit later. But there's also there's also uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, men and women with deep pockets and owners
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  Speaker 5: that would want to want to buy this, uh, I
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  Speaker 5: mean by a spot in the NHL. So it'll happen.
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  Speaker 5: It'll happen. Two billion dollars, they'll come up with it,
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  Speaker 5: the ones that really want it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Okay, Jacob, two billion.
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  Speaker 3: The thing is two billion. That's like a record now
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  Speaker 3: considering as you as Cliff Broughs up.
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  Speaker 4: It's a bit of a niche. But one of the
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  Speaker 4: biggest deals with it is the reason it's such a niche,
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  Speaker 4: and clip one to know why is well, like, let's
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  Speaker 4: just put it for example, I mean soccer spyally coming
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  Speaker 4: into the United States, but you're considering baseball, fast ball, football,
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  Speaker 4: all the ones we saw in America, they're about sixty
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  Speaker 4: to one hundred years ahead.
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  Speaker 3: So there's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: What made hockey big truly was the a miracle on ice.
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  Speaker 4: That's nineteen eighty, that's forty five years, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean. In comparison to those things that we say,
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  Speaker 4: you can almost say golf got big with with Nicholas
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  Speaker 4: and Nicholas and Palmer. That's still the sixties, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We're talking nineteen eighty. They're still ketch
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  Speaker 4: up here. And then soccer, I mean that came the
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  Speaker 4: couple three years ago. There's gonna be a lot of ketchup.
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  Speaker 4: Get these right there, people, that's number one thing number two,
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  Speaker 4: And Fox tried to do this in the nineties with
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  Speaker 4: the laser thing, which was ridiculous. They tried to do
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  Speaker 4: it itself. People that they have, a lot of them
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  Speaker 4: don't have the easiest time paying attention to the puck.
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  Speaker 4: They're watching a lot of people skating up with down
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  Speaker 4: ice and and the thing is there is that has
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  Speaker 4: to take a lot of concentration, and a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people don't have that concentration. Now should they change things
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  Speaker 4: to make that? Know, it's just got to be what
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  Speaker 4: it's gotta be, and people kind of just catch up.
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  Speaker 4: But those are the reasons for that, cliff It's but
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  Speaker 4: I mean, by itself, remembered this also two billion. Remember
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  Speaker 4: that's remember what else has gone up in as far
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  Speaker 4: as value WNBA. So if WNBA can go up in
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  Speaker 4: value a little by little, so can the NHL.
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  Speaker 3: And just things will just keep going as time will
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  Speaker 3: go on.
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  Speaker 1: Great point, Jacob, really really good point, Katy.
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  Speaker 7: So if any of you are surprised at this or not,
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  Speaker 7: let's look at the NHL is experiencing significant revenue growth,
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: with its total hockey related revenue from twenty twenty three
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: to twenty four reaching six point three billion, which is
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: an eight point six percent increase over the previous season.
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: And they're saying twenty twenty four to twenty five could
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: come out around seven billion dollars in just revenue for
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: the league. Now, out of that revenue, ticket sales is
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: forty four percent of their revenue. That is much different.
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: So the NHL distinguishes itself from other major North American
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: sports leagues like NFLA and MMLB by relying significantly more
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: on ticket sales, which comprises a forty four percent of
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: its revenue. In contrast, the NFL primarily depends on national
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: TV deals, which is sixty six percent of THEIRS, while THEA,
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: NBA is forty one percent and MLB is twenty six percent.
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: The other thing, remember, while the NHL's national media deals
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: are not as large large as other leagues, the current
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: seven year deals with ESPN and Turner Sports signed in
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty one are worth two point eight billion in total, So.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: There's a lot.
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: I mean, if you think of those numbers and you're
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: talking one team is worth two billion, but yet they're
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: projecting revenue of that. That league has grown exponentially as
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: well well.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Number one, they market their stars. They gonna have come
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: a long way, you know, the advantage perhaps with us
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: having no way to do it. So this week versus
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: a week ago, let me tell you the reason why
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: we didn't do last week's show on schedules. I had
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to interview the great Bob Ryan and that
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: show will be coming out hopefully in the next few
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: days or a week. Mob was really great and it
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: was an unbelievable experience with him, and he's a good
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: friend of mine. So here it's a week. Some latest
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: news today that we wouldn't have had last Wednesday. Let's
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: go to the NBA. Carolina Hurricanes owner Tom Condon bought
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: the Portland Trail Brazers for four billion dollars. That's an
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: NHL owner, by the way, buy an NBA team for
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: four billion dollars. That's double what this franchise fee is
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that is unbelievable. So do I think too billion dollars
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: with rational I have no question about it. And the
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: thing is the NHL will get it. There's no question
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: about it. The league growing and yeah, well, if you're right,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: it is some money grab for the owners of the league.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: If you can get four billion dollars with two new franchises,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: why not do it. You know they're only going to
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: put the two franchises in big markets anyways. To gain
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: the TV market is really what they're gonna do to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: begin with. So I know there's a lot of cities
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that are being bantered around, but for four billion dollars,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you better get TV markets as well.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Can I just jump on the flow of something wrong
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: with that? It would be okay if I come up
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: with a point here. I mentioned it when you had
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Neil Smith on. I asked a question about the way
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: we watch television and you know the way with content
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: and it's different. They might take the market size of
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: an account, but should they in the future for the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: way we we we we watch things now with streaming
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: and online.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: This is streaming.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I think if they change, everything else is changing. I
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: would think that the market size is that it's just different.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Now it's gonna everything business wise from television and all
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: that is different. I think that should evolve as well
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: in the way they decide who gets teams as well.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: We can't go with the traditional mindset because it's totally
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: gone out the window.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I know, listen, I know you're an mansion expert Authorityana,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you've got more grass and politicians tell lives. I get that, okay,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: because you know the subject awfully well. I understand your
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: logic behind streaming. I totally get it. I just you know,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: we both have events of mass communication, communication degrees in media,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: so I completely agree where the streaming thing could really
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: come into play. And do I use analogies like that.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Of course I will once in a while because I'm
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: trying to make a point and I'm not here to
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: offend anybody. I see your logic, but for some reason,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not pretty much on board with it. But you're
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: entitled to your opinion. That's why we have on the show,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: because everybody's entitled to an opinion for sure. So let's
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: talk about some of the cities that are being considered.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Five NHL cities for expansion and we're going to get
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: on this a little bit more than I've heard the
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: most of you. You have Austin, Texas, New Orleans, Atlanta, Houston,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and Indianapolis. I know Milwaukee've been talked about as well.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: So where are we going first? To George? Oh, well,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: thank you.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: I still think my order would be Houston first, Atlanta second,
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: and Kansas City third. There are a lot of great cities,
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Let's face it, there are a lot of them. Houston
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: large population, strong sports market. As we know, they've done
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: a terrific job, but they're in the top ten in
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: population in the United States, very large media mark at Houston.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I think deserves a team, an NHL team.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Atlanta.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: I know there's a lot of people that say no,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: they've been there twice, and twice they've moved the teams.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: But I still think for many reasons Atlanta would be good.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: They're still to me, Atlanta is the gateway to the South.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: There are so many people, even from Detroit and other
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: states that have moved out there. I love it Atlanta,
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: including my own daughter and son in law, and Jacob
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: you're down there too, and it's really a bustling city
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: and a bustling community. That being said, you still got
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: to look at well, what didn't work last time must
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: work this time. They'll be in a new arena, and
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: like you alluded to, it's probably going to be out
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: in the suburbs. Kansas City my third choice, Scott is
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: again a great sports culture there with the Chiefs, especially
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: in the Royals, and you know they've also been successful
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: with soccer teams as well. City has a very very
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: good location. They would be within the central division probably
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: of the league, and they you have some good rivalries
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: i'm sure with some of the existing teams, especially against
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: the Saint Louis Blues and probably the Dallas as well.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: But yeah, those would be my top three choices. I'm
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: interested in hearing Scott what everybody else thinks as well.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: On you too. Yeah, I'm going to go over a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: lot of the ones that listed as well. You have Atlanta, Cincinnati.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I don't see that one ever happening. Houston bring back
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the Houston Euros is a little bit of tradition with
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the name there. Kansas City definitely deserves another opportunity because
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you had the Kansas City Scouts they were over at
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the Camp Arena wasn't really an ideal hockey arena, but
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: they have the other arena that hosts the Big Twelve tournament,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: so I definitely think Kansas City deserves another chance. New
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Orleans I don't see it. Omaha, Nebraska, No, I don't
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: see that one either. Phoenix, well, we know the coyotes
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: are dead. They're never coming back. Milwaukee I think would
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: be a sleeper. Canada, I really do. Sacrament I don't
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: see that one happening. And let's see you have mark them. Ontario.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even know where that's at. Hamilton, Ontario. I
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: know where that one's at Kitchen or water Boo, Ontario. Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I don't see at Quebec City. I don't see any
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of those. The reason why I'm against Canadian cities right
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: now is we saw what happen during COVID. What happens
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: if you have another situation like that, then you have
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the difficulties of getting back. I don't think you will.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: But again, it's all about the big markets. I really
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: do believe that if you're going to get two billion
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: dollars a popular better at least get the population size
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: with it. Cliff's right, maybe streaming doesn't matter, does it
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: factor in eff But don't tell me that if you
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: don't have a bigger population base, the odds of selling
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: out the building are a whole lot better with more
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: people than there are with less people. Those are other ones.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I think I'll open it up to anybody else that
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: wants to talk about this.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, here, here's the big thing. I got a
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: couple of things on this. Number one taking Orleans out immediately.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: They have a hard enough time that the two sports
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: they do have it's called below sea level. They've had
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: three major floods in the last seventeen years. There's not
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: a somebody that's gonna ever want to start a new
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: a new stadium, knew everything, new everything, new team knew
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: us to put all that money there and then have
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: to deal with that. They're not going to want too.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: And it's not an area that's going to become huge
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: with hockey.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: So forget that. Austin's huge. They're getting bigger and bigger.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: It's a big artist area, but it's also very capitalistic,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: good mixture that I think Austin's a big one. Atlanta
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: the one and only reason, and I'm gonna say this,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: they can make it is because it's going to it's
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: the same thing of what they did with the braves
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: going to the suburbs.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: They're gonna bring it there. It'll get better. See. The
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: thing is the battery.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: In Atlanta, like the over end the suburbs is what's
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: made it pretty big in the first place. They'll make
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: another battery, especially with the size of that area. With that,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: with that mall that there is, there's plenty to build
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: a build around that. So, I mean, the heck they
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: it's such a big space that they put little miniature
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: carnivals in that thing a couple times a year in
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: the summer, and they have like a ferris wheel and everything.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: So it's like they've got the room.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Then as far as like Cincinnati, No, no, especially with
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: the problem that they're having right now. Omaha, they have
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: the weather for the winter. They've got the weather for
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: the winter. But can it face off against college football?
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: No, No, not really.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: And then Kansas City, of course always asleep. In Milwaukee,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: always sleep. They're great sports areas. So but I'm just
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: thinking the only thing I'm thinking about the old Austin
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: and Atlanta as far as the hot and warmer city
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: that the only two that will have a chance. Everything
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: else will be let's just say hypothetical, Omaha, Milwaukee, all
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: those it's got to be winter, those will get those
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: will get the shots at the end.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Great stuff, Okay, Cody.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: So, I mean the three I would like to see
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: is Houston one, Atlanta too, and uh as what George said,
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: uh Kansas City three. I feel like those would be
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: the top three for probably all the probably the best
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: choices for you know, for everything, you know, location and everything.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: Houston you'll have the great you'll have the Texas rival,
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: and then there's also less travel for two teams right there,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: and then even Atlanta you got I mean, the South
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: teams are just are you know, just expanding more and
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: more every time. I mean, we've had a Florida team
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: and the Stanley Cup final for the last six years,
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: so obviously, you know, the South teams. We're saying that
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: it would never work, but you know, it's working obviously now.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: You know in Vegas is I guess considered a non
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: market team too, and they just recently one. So I mean,
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: I would like to see Atlanta. I'm looking forward to
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: because we're actually me and my wife just planned a
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: trip to go to Atlanta for a couple of days,
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: so I'm looking forward to that. So I would like
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: to see Atlanta have another shot, but I think the
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: first team should be Houston, just so well one we don't.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: I don't want another specific expansion team because every time
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: it just seems to hurt the Ducks more and more
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: on that one, especially the Vegas winner at the most.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: But that, like Houston, I think would be a good one.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: They can go into Central and then they could probably
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: move some teams around for the conference and stuff like that,
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: you know, like what Detroit went to the Eastern Conference.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure we can find a way to wiggle
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: or add a team to the Central or just somehow
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: make the conferences work and make it even so because
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: if we're gonna have a Georgia team and h and another,
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: I guess even if we have one one, I guess so.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: But you know, i' just think those are the top
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: top three for sure. Like I said, the Kansas City Scouts,
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think I was around when they
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: were around, So sorry if I made everyone feel a
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: little older right there, but.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I wasn't around when they were around. What are you
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: talking about Come on.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: I don't remember at Kansas City Scouts since I've been alive.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: Let's just put it that way.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: It was a baby.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I was a baby when they were around.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: When did they disbanded exactly?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: They moved to Denver.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: They moved to Denver's And when was that the seventy
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: four Oh god, I.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Wasn't even close. Well, they they started in seventy four,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I think they started.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they weren't there very long. They were there for
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: like two years, went to Denver and they went to
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Jersey in Jersey, right.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I remember them going to Jersey. Okay, I do remember that.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Muchay, Cody, those Cody. Those were the days that they
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: had pet dinosaurs. I think Georgie had a taradaptyl.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: You know, it's funny. I think my dad had a
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: pet velociraptor too. I think he named it like Bluie
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: or something. I can't, oh stop.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Funny.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: I mean house house was my dad supposed to get
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: the school in back if you didn't have his pet velociraptor.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, hello. The one thing you said a
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: good A couple of good points. Number one, the idea
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: that Houston I'm going to say Arrows because that's what
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be named. Anyhow, would give the Dallas Stars
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the natural Texas rivalry, and again Kansas City, like George
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: mentioned before, you give Saint Louis in state rivalry. There. Yep,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: that's what you're looking although again I think there'd be
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the third one. I would find it hard to think
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: they're two billion dollars is coming out of Kansas City
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: with all the things that they're dealing with with the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: royals and the chiefs. But I've seen crazy things happen.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: But I won't. I have more things to say about this,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: so I don't want to give out too much information
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: or we won't have a show left. But I know
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: in a moment we're gonna have a station break after.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: But everybody's done talking about it.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: So.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm all on a board, all aboard with Houston.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I have no problem with Houston getting a getting the team.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: There's Wisconsin, I say, we always say Milwaukee. I've never
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: been to Wisconsin.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I wanted to know could Madison handle a team. It's
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: along the same mindset of like Columbus, because they put
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: the team in Columbus and not Cleveland or Cincinnati. I
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: know why they did it because it was the central
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: part and all that. Could that handle a team?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Uh Cleveland mailed before, I mean with the Cleveland parents.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean they went with Columbus because of
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the central playing. They wanted the state of Ohio to
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: come behind them. It's the capitol and all that. But
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I was wondering if Madison could work. And I know
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: why Wisconsin doesn't get it because Chicago made a deal
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: many many years ago, and it goes upon that. It
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: makes no sense. They have every other major league team
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: and they did. Chicago's like, oh, we were worried about competing.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like your original six team. Your brand is you know, untouchable.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna have to worry about losing money or
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: you might lose some fans in Wisconsin. But they they
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: play hockey in Wisconsin. They care about Wisconsin Badger hockey. Okay,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's like, it doesn't make sense to me
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: why you wouldn't have a hockey team. And then yeah,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: just like Casey or you know, I I Casey, I
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: think they deserve a chance as well because they've been
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: screwed over over the you know, other teams like Pittsburgh,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: the Islanders, Nashville, they were all playing these games. Oh
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: we're gonna relocate, and they even went all the way there,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: and you know, they entertained them and get I lead
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: the very least led them in like Indianapolis have a
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: rivalry kind of like, okay, prove it. I'm not saying
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Indianapolis for sure, but you know, I'm okay with that.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: And I'm you know what, I know you don't like
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Quebec uh Canada, but I want to bring back the
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Quebec Nordicks. There's a videotron center. People go there. You know,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: it's hockey.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: It's no.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with it. I have a
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of people want to bring back the Quebec Nordiks.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: They've they've got everything that they need there. They're going
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: to sell out. But that's what I And also, I
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: don't think it'll be three teams. It would be like
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: four teams, because if you're gonna do it, it needs
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: to be it needs to be some sort of semblance
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: of order. Thirty five teams would be weird, thirty six
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: is nice and even.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well here's there's another explanation. About Columbus. They're the
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: only game in town. So that's whereas there's competition in
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: some of those other markets for their team. Two, So
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Columbus being the only game in town, you have Cincinnati
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: down the road, albeit, and Cleveland's got multiple teams. So
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Columbus is the only game in town outside of Ohio state.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And I've actually been in the Nationwide Arena before and
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: it's a pretty neat stadium with the practice facility connected,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: So that might hopefully clarify a couple of things up
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Columbus as well, the only game in town. I've been
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to a lot of sports markets where they were the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: only game in town and leave. It's a lot easier
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: to market a team when you only have the one
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: versus one other ones. Okay, so everybody have an opportunity
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: to get their two cents in, No, they'll have it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Leave it the candy.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: Well, here's the Kansas City Scouts, their professional team from
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: nineteen seventy four to nineteen seventy six, then relocated to
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: Denver in nineteen eighty two.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: There you go, the cracked or quack data decision to
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: royally quack statistician. I had to throw that in it's okay,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: great stuff. Thanks they did the last long Maybe another team.
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: So I think for expansion. Could I could see Kansas City?
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: I could see Indy. I mean, let's face it, that's
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: where Wayne Gretzky started his professional hockey career. I could
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: also Could I see Milwaukee?
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: Could I see Madison. Madison is really a college town,
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: and I think they are so beloved to the Wisconsin
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: Badgers that I don't know that they would support an
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: NHL team. It's probably an hour to an hour and
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: a half, depending on where you live in Milwaukee to
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: get to Madison, so it's not like it's not doable,
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: but it's almost the same. It's probably too an hour
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: and a half to two hours to get from Chicago
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: to Milwaukee as well. Do I think Milwaukee could could
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: do it? I think they could. It just depends on
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: how high the ticket prices would be. Another option would
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: be Atlanta, maybe Baltimore. Baltimore could possibly do it, and
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: I know it's so close to Washington, but they've already
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: got MLB and NFL teams in both of them, so
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: that's another possibility. One last possibility Colorado Springs.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, well interesting, I like throwing names out there. I'll
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: throw them out there that nobody even thought of. Can
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: you imagine if they ever put a team up in
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: North Dakota with the rich rich college hockey tradition. I'm
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: just saying, this is one of those far fetch nights
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: where we can get a little creative here, you know,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: and zone in on one topic and go nine million directions.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: That's why I like to throw these out here every
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: so often.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Hockey's easy, go ahead, North Dakota by not a chance.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll bout how about those fightings too?
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: They changed their name right?
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Well, hey, we're having this is a topic we're supposed
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: to have fun with, So I'll put North Dakota out there.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Nobody has to take that one seriously. Of course, there's
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: so many people delivering fake newsage. Somebody will be watching
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: this showspreading the rumor out there. Who knows now, North Dakota.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: But it was worth about thirty seconds of ay to
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: get some people out there in North Dakota to say
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a I like the guy in Orange Hope. And that's
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: about as far as that's going to go, all right,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what I like the lady that's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: going to give us a station, right go ahead.
• 38:24
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• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Hex to you, Scott, Well, we know we have a
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: resident Georgia guy here, So now we're going to get
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: ready to the particulars of where they're thinking about going.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Obviously the South Forest site site and Georgia is the
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: one they're considering. The gathering will pay one I will
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: pay one million rent for the forty nine year lease,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: and the county will get two dollars and fifty cents
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: per ticket sold at the arena events. All right, Jacob,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you're there. I'd like you just
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: to simply give us more of an explanation. I don't
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: need everybody to talk about this is your town, and
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: we'll then we'll talk about the suburb thing in a
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: whole as I put other stuff up. So Jacob, the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: floor is yours about the gathering. Can you please tell
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: us more about Southwest Site.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: What is at this point in time.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: It's such a it is such a growing suburb and
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: it's I mean day I remember watching a documentary about
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: the Ballground for instance, and how it was and it's
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: even I mean how it started.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Out the atlant of Falcons way back when.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: It was so small. Now it's even starting to try
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: to grow. So everything grows. But the thing.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: About it is the mall as where it would be
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: right now is basically putting in little theaters and like
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: piano the piano stores. It's like it's dying.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: It is dying, a very very slow and hefty death
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: and the painful death, and it is wanting to be
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: able to tear that area down and go put that
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: up in the first place.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: But like I said, the space, it's a the space what.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: You have where they want it right now, it is
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: that whole mall slash like the cheesecake factory slash all
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: the other areas. It's enormous. He's got an enormous areas.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: So it is going to be another battery like in Atlanta.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: It's going to be all that to try to make
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: because that's going to keep it with the people in
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Atlanta longer, go keep them the longer to be able
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: to watch the games. And see, here's the thing. Also,
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: they also have the Gwinnette Gladiators, the Atlanta Gladiators over
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: in Gwinnette County and it does decently well. It does
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: these well, it's around that area and stuff like that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: But it's still wouldn't that. So I believe in this area.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: As long as they win, as long as they put
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: more entertainment areas in that type of deal, it's going
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: to do fine. Just do not try to just put
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: a hockey team alone. A hockey team alone won't make it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: But that's a lot of areas. It's like a bay
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: it set, I mean, with an entertainment area and the
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: whole idea of Atlanta and then maybe the Thrashers, as
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: you said, Cody, you know, the brill to bring those
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: things back. It can succeed, but it can't go hockey alone.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: But then again, there aren't. There are not a lot
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: of sports towns anymore that could even go their sport alone.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: We have there's so many, so many different things around,
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: so much entertainment around, so much real estate around. Now
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: it's like you think of Tampa. We talk about Florida.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: You guys, Tampa and Miami and those places don't have
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: a lot of entertainment around there. They don't get a
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: lot of people. It's just a different world.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Now, all right. Well, let me also point another fact
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: here as well, and you've already alluded to it, but
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I'll make give more information. And obviously you know that
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Atlanta approved the eighteen thousand Seed Arena, which is ready
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: for an NHL team, and as you alluded to, there's
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: a three billion dollar entertainment district lined up for it.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: We know that the previous history there includes the Atlanta Flames,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: which moved to Calgary in nineteen eighty and the Thrashers
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: in twenty and eleven ended up going to Winnipeg, so
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: there's a history there as well. I mean, the Atlanta
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Flames actually didn't do that bad. They had Dan Bouchard
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: there and they were a pretty competitive team. I actually
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: saw the Flames in the Red Wings playing a hockey
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: team if blil ahead. I think Georgia and I are
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: the only ones that will remember that ended up scoring
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: a couple of goals. So the Atlanta Flames are pretty good,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: and I think the Calgary Flames do a decent job
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: with the a on there, but the old throwback logos
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: what they have there as well. So, yeah, Jacob, you're
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: so right. You have to have an entertainment district around it.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: And they're talking and they've talked about a three billion
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: dollar entertainment district for the reasons that you said hockey
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: will not send alone. I'll tell you why, Jacob, point
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: is so much better. Candy and I are living this
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: thing right now with the Miami Marlins who play their
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: games over a low depot park and you've got nothing
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: around it except Little Havana and that's it. Nobody's going
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: anywhere near there. And I tell you what, when we
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: were up there last year and the Marlins took on
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the Detroit Tigers to be able to appreciate co America
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Park and everything you have around it, between co America Park,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Ford Field and Little Caesars Arena, it was just unbelievable
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: what you had. So it was like night and day.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: So you're right, Jacob, there's no doubt that if they
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: don't have the entertainment district, it could be a bit
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: of a problem. So but tell you one thing, though,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Commissioner Gary Betman thinks the third time will be at
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Charlit because you tell you one thing, the expressions of
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: interesting he's getting are unbelievable, and that he ought to know,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: he really and I can't imagine that.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: We Scott can I say this part too.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Betman's probably nearing retirement, but he wants to be able
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: to make this deal. Remember this, Atlanta is almost the
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: new Hollywood. It is the new music industries. It is
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: so much of everything. It has has a bunch of
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: fortune five hundred companies, especially home Depot right, which.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Is enormous, which is a huge and it's a tremendous one.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: It's got basically Atlanta, it's almost the South Manhattan. It
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: really is.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: As far as every the amount of growth is coming in,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: it really is. And I'm not going to say, I'm
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: not going to say Hollywood by itself.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: It's like it's it's its own Hollywood's.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Its own personality, Atlanta's its own personality. But as far
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: as business and what comes through, it's its own Manhattan.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: And there's no question it's building up.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Huge all alone. In fact, they have Buckhead nearby, was
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: certainly a boatload of there as well. I've been to
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Atlanta quite a few times. What American billionaire Don Fagan
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: has emerges as a strong candidate to get a team there.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: And I'll go through another thing and then I'll open
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: up the floor again for those of you that wonder
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the fact that there's no way that they would have
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: another team back in downtown, that's right. It would fail
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: a third time easily. But get this, and this is
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: what we've been talking about all along. The Atlanta Braves
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: are seventh in attendance, looking at for a thirty six
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: at thirty six thousan nine hundred and seventy four. That's
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: what they're getting. So the Braves who played downtown their
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: whole time until they went to the suburbs in comm
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: County again thirty six thousand, nine seventy four in the suburbs,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: and there was a point where they couldn't even sell
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: up playoff games. So that tells you exactly why I
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: think hockey has a shot clip that it could make
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: it in Atlanta this time if you put it there,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: think about this clip thirty six thousand and nine to
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: seventy four for the Braves and that they're everything and
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: this year they're struggling. So it's a hot ticket there,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: And that goes back to what Jacob is saying that
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: you put that entertainment district around there, and this team
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: has a much better chance in eighteen thousand and they're
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: talking about a forty nine year lease there. So the
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: other one didn't even make it a little long past
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: eight a little on the fact that forty nine, I
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: know we're I'll be forty nine years from now, I'll
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: be up in Milwaukee, but they won't be if they
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: have a team, they won't be heaving it there the
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: place I'll be in my crypt, I'll definitely have a
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: front row seat up in Nosebleed, and there'll be a
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: lot less than me up there, bad example South.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, make.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Sure, no, just make sure you have a TV in
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: there to watch all the games when you're in your crypt.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck, lot. But anyways, that's a lot, all right, Cliff.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, now that I've put all this
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: information out there, does that change your thinking a little
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: bit about Atlanta and for no other reason what the
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Braves have done, and let alone the commitment there. If
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: it doesn't, it's okay, because I know that you've certainly
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: done a lot of research on.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: It okay, well, yeah, it's I think they that it
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: is great. It is Georgia is changing, it is growing.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: They're doing all those things, all those other sports awesome, great,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: it's not hockey. Hockey is different. Hockey is expensive. Most
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: people don't play hockey. You have to have that's got
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: to be strong in there. Look at the They thirty
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: to forty miles north of that area. That makes it
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: makes it difficult. What was the big excuse in Arizona. Oh,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: it's all the way over here, so we don't want
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: to go to the games. That makes it tough as well.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Hockey tickets are expensive. They just are. I don't like
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: that fact either, especially NDHL, but they are. I get
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: the whole aspect of the other all the that makes it.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: It's a great plan to have all those other entertainment
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: venues there, But will that mean people will come to
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: watch the game. When Atlanta was here, the arena maxed
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: out at eighteen thousand on the attendance It never for
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: yearly attendance, that never went over seventeen and no one
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: ever showed up. I'm worried that it's just it's gonna
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: be there. Yet, they've got the forty nine year lease.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Are they just gonna keep them there for forty nine years?
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: And even if they're not doing well, that's my question.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: How are they just gonna keep them there? Kind of
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: like what they overdid with Arizona. Oh, we're gonna keep
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: them there. We're gonna keep them there were and keep
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: them there, and I get there. They were a total
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: mess in Arizona.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Well, Cliff, there's where you're talking about.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of money in this area, a lot
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: There's I mean there's a neighborhood that's near me right now.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: It's like I just saw the It's not even that
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: huge of a house, like seven hundred and fifty.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: It's like, there's these areas here there's a lot.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Of money, and it's like and there's a lot, And
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: that's why they want to bring it up in this
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: first place.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: To do that.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: These are families that can afford hockey. Will they do it?
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: That's a good question. You're right, will they do it?
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: But they can definitely afford in this area.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: But Cliff, I don't know how we even bring up
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Arizona in this And I'll tell you why. Okay, I
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: live there and that situation would do from the beginning.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: They ended up moving that team to the America West Arena,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: which is where the Sun played, and you can only
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: see one side of the goal, and that was bad.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you George knows the story. He don't
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: even have to comment on it because he was behind
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: the scenes when we had to deal with this stuff.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: And I said this, and I'll tell you what I
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: want the two games. If every guy wanted nothing to
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: do with me because I'm bad publicity for these guys
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: being outside, or to tell you, this dadium was stunk.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: And obviously I never went to another one there again.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: The last time Ember went there again was for a
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: basketball game. But what you have there is they should
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: have had that team at the Arizona memorials Iliseum where
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: the Sons used to play initially. And you can charge
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: a lot more money. To move to Glendale was bad.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I lived in Chandler, Arizona, and they were gonna build
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: a stadium in Scottsdale. They tore down a mall and
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: the Coyotes found a way to blow that one. That's
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: where Bullog was in Scottsdale, which goes back to what
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Jacob said about where the money was. The money was
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: in Scottsdale. The Coyotes should have been there, and they
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: tore the mall down. So Arizona was bad. I'm not
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: saying you're anything about towards your example, but there's no
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: way you compare Arizona to Atlanta. I mean, that's just
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: like day because at least the fact that they are
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: they agree where the stadium is going to go. And
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: the only two reasons that the other ones failed was
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: they were downtown and we saw that. The fact that
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the Braves moved to the suburbs and they're doing well.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, and then and then when you look at
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: the Detroit situation, you know, the Lions and the Pistons
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: did well in the suburbs. The only reason why they
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: ended up going back is they had the sweet tel
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: to go back to downtown Detroit. I know I've said
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: a lot here. I don't want to leave a lot
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: of bystanders out here, But go ahead, Cliff, and then
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I'll open it up for any other everybody else.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I do know a lot of times when they
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: choose when, especially when teams get new arenas, they really
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: like the fact, oh it's in the downtown area. It's
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: you know, it's that's always kind of like a plus.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Here it seems like it's not a plus, and I
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: get it's great. It's I I'm happy for the State
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: of Georgia.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: I really am.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I don't have anything against the State of Georgia. It's
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: great that you're growing. It's great that old thing. But
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I just don't think it's failed twice yet. It's got
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: this other place.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I want.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I want a team that it's gonna be there, it's
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: gonna be competitive, people are gonna go. Then the one
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: of the owners is like Vernon Krauss, he's been been
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: the big one of the big people there, car dealership thing.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: It's great that they're doing all this stuff. I just
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's gonna last that long. I think
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: when you put a team there, you should think the
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: team is going to be there a long team time.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: It's gonna grow the sport, it's gonna make it better.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna have empty stadiums.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: It took the Panthers a real long time before they
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: turn things around. They finally got good ownership and management.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: They started doing things right. Now we see you know
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: it took them a real long time. They could have
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: been really close to going away. By the way, why
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: what they were doing and the empty seats and all that.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I'm glad they turn it around. They earned their spot.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but I just I'm really terrified because because
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I think it's a blight on the league. It's a
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: blight on the game. People consider the game almost as
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: a joke, and it angers me because they know what
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: a great game it is. I can't tell you. People
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: are like, oh, hockey, hockey, like hockey. Oh it's a joke. Oh,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: there's a hockey.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: It's it's frustrating to hear that. I want that people
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: to get why the game is so great and why
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: the league is so great.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, i'll give you that about the Panthers.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: First of all, if Big goes south with them, their
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: crowds are going to diminish. Again. Mount Florida is a winner.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: They don't support. Camp is much different. They'll support no
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: matter what because you have a predominantly Midwest area. So
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: i'll give you that right now. The Panthers on a
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: road bay and I hope for their sake that they
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: continue the role. But you're right, they started winning and
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: everybody's showing up. Tell me where they'll be five years
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: from now? I don't know. I mean, you're talking forty
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: nine years from now. I don't know what will be
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: left to me. I know I'll be there with my
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: little cat, Maverick, Who's going to be there with me
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: in a little box, you know, him and I gonna
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: be there. I don't know what to be watching. But
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: let's get real here, Cliff. I mean Quebec obviously, the northeast. Sure,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I mean everybody would like to see them. I mean
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: that makes sense. But are they going to be there
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: forty nine years from now? Either?
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: Who's good?
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Does anybody know where they're gonna be forty nine years
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: from now?
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: I'll be ninety six and I'll be still be going.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I'll be over one hundred. I don't even think about
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to me five years lotw Loan forty
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: nine years and I'm math, Yeah, I bet.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: I think that you have to think from a long term.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: If you're gonna give a team, a city, a team,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: you should think that they're gonna stay and they're not
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: gonna leave after a little while. It should be okay,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: this is gonna be a good investment, this is gonna
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: be good for the league. And you know it's just
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: and oh, they're not just gonna leave after you know,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: ten or fifteen. And the only reason Arizona was there
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: for twenty five years is because the league didn't want
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: you know, it's like, no, we're not leaving. That's basically
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: why they did that.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you don't know whether or not they
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: sell it to a different owner to move it to.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many different factors about leaving, so
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: I know we could get into a debate. Oh, I
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: think they should stay there, maybe, Like we tell them
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: that every state we build these days should be there
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: forty or fifty years. In Atlanta is one of the
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: few places that gets it right where they stick around,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: or even in Texas where the Rangers second Ballpark is
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: still being used. There aren't many talents that keep these
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: places any longer than twenty thirty before they are dumped
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: their fire and they get rid of them. So yeah,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: I'd like to think that every thing's gonna stay forever,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: But let's face a reality. If you're a human being,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: sometimes you can't stand in your house for fifty years,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: you might have to move to another house. I mean,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: that does happen too, I with you in your lifetime.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: I don't have a plan with changing reason. It's just
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: changing markets, that's all markets.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Well, I know we could go on for a right.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry everybody but George, and he thoughts about trying
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: to make sense of what I'm saying, Cliff, make for
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: sense that I do about his research. I'm just trying
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: to go from a general perspective about certain things.
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, I understand what your bud guys are saying.
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: But I'm gonna go back to my daughter. Okay, she
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: lives down there, and this is what she told me.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: We believe in as long as it has an owner
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: that actually cares about the team, they have a chance
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: to make it in Atlanta. I personally don't like how
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: far the arena will be from East Atlanta, but I'm
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: guessing that's where they think the fan base will be.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: And then she went on to say that, you know,
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: it would be at least a forty five minute drive
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: for her and her husband. You know, they would like
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: it in downtown. But she understands why, you know, and
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: so a public transit would not be available to fans
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: that are in that part of Atlanta. She's indicator, I've
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: lived here for nearly fifteen years and i have never
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: stepped foot to the area that they're just talking about
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: putting the team. But again, she says, the bottom line is,
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: I'm sure they picked that location for a reason. So
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: the thing is is, of course there's going to be
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: some fans that are not happy about it. You know,
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: Scott and I battle for years. Scott loved the Silver
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: Dome and I hated it because it was a long
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: drive for me being on the northeast side of Detroit,
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: and he lived closer. He was in Oakland County. So yeah,
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: you're always going to have, you know, these fights or
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: these wars with how we're going to get these fans here,
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: or how we're going to transport her.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Where are they going to come from?
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: But we all know that the money, like you said, Jacob,
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: there's more money around there in Atlanta, and a lot
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: of that money is coming from the suburbs, not from downtown.
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: That being said, a sparkling new arena will succeed in
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: this area. This five three to five billion dollar investment
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: that they want to make, it's all encompassing. It's not
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: just the hockey team, it's the whole area. Shops, stores,
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: concert venues, theaters, everything I get.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: All that we go ahead going to.
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: Conclude is that it just doesn't please everybody, because, like
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: I said, in my daughter's case, she lives in a
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: park that's closer to downtown than out there in the
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: boonies as we used to call them, the boonies, the suburbs.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Well, you and I sold the territorial thing real easy.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I covered the Pistons and the Lions, and you ended
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: up covering the Tigers and the Yes, you're right, good point. Yeah,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: the Tigers and oh gosh, I'm a flank and the
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Red Wings. There you go. And I got there every
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: now and then. So I'll figure it out and I'll
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: never forget when the Lions gave me a season pass
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: over there, I may I Corn take the second one
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: because I wasn't giving up my first one because Bozo
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: couldn't go back there enough. Today, I know you get
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: the pass, I said, Maike di Corn, get his and
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: make them send him to the hotel to pick us up.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Don't worry. The Lion did.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: So.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: All right, Cody, are you getting all of this. I
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: know you're patiently learning an awful lot, and hopefully some
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: of this information you're getting will help some of your
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: future podcasts, because I know you're on the West coast
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: patiently listening to all of us go ahead, and on
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: the East coast. But he wanted you in on the
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: show because even when you were on with Alan Greenberg,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: you were a great sponge and you're learning a lot,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: and when I start pairing you up with other people,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: you're gonna learn more and more because they're gonna make
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: you the best hockey analysts that we can. Cody, you
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: want to try to make sense out.
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: Of this, Yeah, I'm going to. I'm going on Google
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: Maps just to see where Force Forsyth County is and
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: I don't understand why it has to go all the
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: way over there and everything. But I know they did
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: move the Brave Stadium, and I know they've done the
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: tennis has done a little bit better since they've been there. Yeah,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: so I don't know why they wouldn't maybe try to
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: do something closer to that, especially you already have the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: location there. I'm like I said, I'm just spitballing here.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: I don't know the area very well, you obviously do
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: a lot more than I do. But I'm just looking
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: at it and I'm trying to just trying to figure out,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: like why I would go there exactly when it's so
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: far from everything else.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Especially Please let me give.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: You the truth. I mean, I'm just being very very honest.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: Hockey is a white sport. This is a majority up
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: here and the majority, and it's like, the reason it
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: didn't succeed before down there in downtown is we already
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: know what that answer is. Okay, so that's why it's
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: going that far to be able to give it that shot.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: But let me say this, Cliff, let me say this part.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: I wanted to say this to you. Every city, be
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: it small or big, in the United States is starting
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: to grow, and the ones that are not are dead.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: I'm from I went to Lee University of Cleveland, Tennessee.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: Went back to go Gas up one time, almost got
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: lost trying to find the interstate because they've grown so
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: much in the last ten years. I go back to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: my hometown in Quincy, Illinois, it's stagnant, dead. They're talking
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: about putting a hotel with a with a rooftop over
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: the bridge and they can't afford it. They'll never afford it.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: They're stagnant, they're dead. These I'm just using these as examples.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: Every we talk about that you want to grow everything,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: every area that you can be able to do it
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: can make something grow, Now, isn't This is a world
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: where everything's grown, even the small towns. They have to
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: or they die. They're annexing certain areas so they can grow,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: so they can get bigger population. You have to now.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: And it's like so putting it in any area will
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: grow it if you do it right, I mean, they
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: will grow. And it is growing right now. The NHL
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: is growing huge from the original six. It's even because
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: I'm Saint Louis Blues fan, and it's like I know
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: darn good and well that they're they're probably gonna have
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: to move into suburbs for their own thing in the
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: next few years because the city of Saint Louis is
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: garbage now, so they're gonna have to get themselves a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: new stadium. And because the blue and they and they'll
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: go those little areas and that thing they'll go, and
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: they'll follow. Those fans will follow because they love the blues.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: They love the blues there and it's like, but I'm
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: just being very honest of what I said earlier. Why
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: isn't that far up, Cody, It's because of what kind
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: of crowds and what kind are over there. When it
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: went downtown, it failed. It failed there, and it will
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: fail if you try it again. You've got to put
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: something into an area that will watch hockey, and this
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: is the most the best chance possible.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Well, and Layman's serves you must just saying call it
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: a scotch and whiskey crawl, because that's what you add
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: at the Palace and Overnos, right, Jordan, the scotch and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: whiskey and down downtown Detroit had the beer crowd is
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: what you had. I mean we both can appreciate that, right, George.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I mean that that's our neck of the woods, right George.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: But Scott, I remember that, Yeah, at the Palace of
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: a gotcha whiskey wine? You had it. It was at
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: the Palace. You want a beer, you know where to go,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: and many people are buying stroke. Now they got everything
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: down there. But that's a different story. Candy. I know
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: you're patiently waiting here. You want to think you can
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: make any sense out of this.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: The one thing I will say is in order to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 7: really make an arena or a town succeed, especially in
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: the NHL, is putting it not in an area where
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 7: your avid fans are gonna go no matter where you
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: put it. It's the casual fans that want to come
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 7: in and see a game that they have to be
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 7: able to go to get to it. Because if I
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 7: look at and I'm gonna and I know this is
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: not hockey because I know that there's a Florida Panthers here,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 7: but I relate it to Scott had mentioned it earlier.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: The Miami Marlins. They put their stadium in Little Havana,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 7: which is a poor neighborhood. We drive through it, there's
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 7: gates on windows, like, it's not an area that I
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: would go to by myself. And so for a family
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 7: that want that is coming to town, that wants to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 7: see a game, how likely are they to go onto
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: the Florida Marlins to the game where there's not hardly
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: any parking around it. That's what you got to think
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 7: of when you're thinking for an NHL team, because yes,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: you're gonna have your season ticket holders whether it no
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: matter pretty much where it is. Because if you're a
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 7: real fan of the sport, you're gonna go. But it's
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: the casual fans that want to catch a game here
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: and there. Those are the people that you need to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 7: put the stadium where they're gonna they're willing to go
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 7: to in order for it to be a success. That's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 7: what I'm gonna say, Scout.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Well, and I'll add to this. Okay, if I wasn't
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: covering the Marlins, there's no way I'd watch a game there.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: No way. So if I'm covering a game, no problem.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting up in the press box and I'm talking
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: to people and getting work done and going on the field,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: There's no way I'd buy a ticket to go there.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: The only place that would ever go it to see
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: a ballgame otherwise would have been where they had it
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: in the first place, and it was raped by hard
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Rock Stadium where the Dolphins are at, and there's so
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: much land there they could have built the stadium. Fact
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: there is nobody wanted the Marlins and they went to
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: the only place they can go. Now, I'm not saying
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: there was a success on that site because they had
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: the Orange Bowl there and they put seventy thousand people
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: from the Miami Hurricanes and the Miami Dolphins. But that's
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: a different era and both of those teams were good,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: and the Marlins will and mustered up four or five
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: winning seasons and their history, yes, they've had two championships,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: one they bought and the other one they wanted the
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: right way. But I would go down there. I mean,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know what long everybody to go down there anyways,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: because I tell you one thing what I decided, and
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: I took that trip over the summer about international travel.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I am a hook baby. Make your old guy the music,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: and I'm doing that when it comes down to the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: road there when it comes to making my own kind
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: of music, taking more trips, I may take the summer off.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Going forward, I never know, but you know I would be.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I would go there if I had to pay for
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: a ticket. Now at that point, if I had to
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: pay for a ticket, I could go to Fayu or
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: I go to the Miami Mark LAKEE Stadium in Miami Hurricanes,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: and they have a pretty good history. Nothing against the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Marlin per se. We've had a pretty good working relationship.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: But there's no way but areas everything it really really is,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: and that's what Jacob has been alluding to the whole show.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: There is m O and E Y there, okay, and
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: that's why Atlanta will get a third team there. And yes,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I love New York MLB talking because Chopstick song. Yeah,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: those guys have got it. In fact, I even taking
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: a step further, I'm glad he popped in here tonight
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: with Robin Chris, our partners over there. Rob went out
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: there and went on a cruise over to Bermuda, and
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: he says he got the idea from the Hibachi thing
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: to make your own kind of music. And I'm waiting
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: to hear his rendition of it. See if it's better
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: than mine. If anybody wants to go dap listen to mine.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe one thing things will play it on Wednesday Night.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: You're a music, all right. They've heard of it at the
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: un official version. A couple other things. I want to
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: get you tonight. Anybody else have any clothing talks about
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: all of this. I mean, I know, Cliff, I understand
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: your logic behind Atlanta or not Atlanta, but some of
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: the other ones we've talked about. Kansas City, if you
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: were going for I think they can should get one now.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: I will give you this much. If they were going
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: to go for and I we're going to add a
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Canadian city, then I'll compromise. This way, Quebec City would
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: be the fourth one. So if you went three and one,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Quebec City would get the nod. Okay, because I do
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: believe Kansas City deserves another chance for two years and
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: George and I will tell you that former Red Wing
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: sid Abel was a coach for there. How many people
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: know about in Europe? Probably nobody? Yep. Yeah.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: So and you know what that Kansas City thing still
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: Kansas City Scouts, I mean to me, I'm sorry they
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: did not give them enough of a chance.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: A chance in the arena was awful also. But I'll
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: tell you, if you went out on eBay or Amazon,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: I'll pitch you could find Kansas City Scout paraphernalia all
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: day long. They bring it back, they would, There's no
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: doubt about that. All right.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: A couple of the scott you made the show Biblical tonight.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: You brought up Kane and Abel.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 7: What.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't catch that, Evander Kane.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: You brought up Cana and Abel.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: Oh that was good, Oh that was good. That one
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: got past mean, he got that one past me. I'll
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: tell you what. So, so do you want to do
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: a pundit fund? And you want to wait till.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: Next ye, because I got to get myself right for tomorrow.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Let me go over two more quick hockey facts, real
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: quick here that we'll put you on with, just so
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: you know. The United States owns a fifty six to
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: forty three lead, and how many Stanley Cups that they've
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: won based on American teams as well?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: I think Tampa Bay.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Well, well, how about the Red Wings pitching in for
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: eleven two? Yeah? I got eleven of those. And another
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: interesting fact there for since we brought about the Panthers,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: if Matthew could Chuck goes undergo surgery, he can miss
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: up to upwards of five months in the Mission Olympics, du
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Corn and doctor, So Matthew could Chuck could be out
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: a little while if it goes that route. I've never
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: had that injury. I've had just about any other in
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: g anybody else want to comment on each of those?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: I know, check him. You got to go, but we
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: appreciate you beat on this show. Let alone the fact
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: that this one hit you closer to home. And I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: knew that if there's any voice on here that would
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: give us a lot of hid pride information, it was
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: going to be you. And I'm glad you made it
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: on this one for sure.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: No, no, I just wanted to do the pundit real fast.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: I have a little thing to night.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: I saw a couple of I saw a couple of
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: different stories. And this is not gonna be on a
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: sports thing. It's just what drove me in saying, there's
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: a little thing that I say all the time. Why
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: does the media be it, movies, television, whatever? Why did
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: the men always look foolish?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: And you know all that?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: I guess if you see them on the you see
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: it on the ads, you see it on TV, on
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: on movies, men look stupid.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Women say the day, okay there, why does it happen?
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Then I get Then I get this.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: I got two stories today, two different ones that just
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: sew why they do it? Number one a guy in
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: a boat that ended up killing colliding into another boat
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: that killed a mom and a daughter, had thirty nine
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: different than the types of alcohol and was drunk on
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: almost all of them.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: That's the non funny one.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: The second one a woman talking about the boyfriend that
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: she just moved out of because she he's because she
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: found out that he did not wipe during the after
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: going to the bathroom and said that he felt it
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: was gay if he wiped it. But which is nasty.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: And that's the funny part of it. But this is
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: the thing. Men, The reason may make it foolish is
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: because you're immature, you're stupid, you're low iq, you're every
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: bit of these things. You make these you make put
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: this all on yourself every single time. This is in
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: the fifties. The men are not running families anymore, and
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: you're putting up with this and by itself, you're putting
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: up with these type of things because you're a child.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Here's the deal.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying men have to run it all now,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: it's a different world. They need help from their wives.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: They do, I mean the way. Money is everything else
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: they need now. But you need to be a team now.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: So many women always say they want a man's man,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: and they don't want it just to other than like
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: some amish somewhere. They don't want to just are the
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: man to run the whole deal. They want a teammate.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: And when you see something like this. You see these teams,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: you wonder why you look foolish on television. These stories
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: are the reason everybody gets a laugh and then they
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: get sad when you hear about the voter. You're immature. Men,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: You're ridiculous, and it embarrasses me as a man. It's
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: why you don't see man and women but person, but
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: partner but them. That's why because you haven't earned it.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: You haven't earned these classifications anymore him. All of these
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: other than the pronoun they brain you. This is why
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: we have foolishness is because you're putting it on yourself.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: Great stuff, and I gotta get going. You guys, take care, okay.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: All right, thanks, We see next Wednesday night, Jacob, You
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: bet all right? All right. So let's go back to
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: that real quick stat that I brought up about the
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: United States and Canada. But with the Stanley Cup comparison,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: you take away those eleven Stanley Cup by the Red
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Wings and you have forty five to forty three. Canada's
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: still trails. All right, there you go, and we will
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: go too.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: You don't forget we've only got two Canadian teams in
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: the original six and four American teams, right right, So
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: I think a little bit uh slanting uh for America
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: is a result of having the more more teams in
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: the league.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Also, well that's true, but then if you want to
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: talk over most of Canada Stanley cupp are coming from,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: I need to go this part the Montreal Canadians on
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: just about most of them anyhow. Yeah, yeah, So I
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: mean sit here and break that stat down all day long, Cody,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: anything you want to add to that stat.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: Well, I just know back in the day, it building
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: the teams was a lot different than it is now.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: Last Back then, it was built on it like where
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: your hometown was, so the closer you were to that
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: team is that's where you went. So of course the
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: Canadian teams are going to have probably better players because
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: the Canadian Canadians just have been the better hockey players
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: as of lately and back then than USA did because
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: it was a lot bigger in Canada than it was
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: in USA. So that's probably why Canada has as many
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: Stanley Cups between those, you know, between them, because that's
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: how it was back then. But I know now it's
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: a lot differently, and that's why USA has been winning
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: nothing about Stanley Cups since I've been born pretty much.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: Well. We knew we had a young end here, and
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: we appreciate the new wave of information you have. And
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, your way ahead of a
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: lot of people in the first place. You've done a
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: really good job. You're one of the few young guys
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: I've kept there because you've been able to blend in
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: with every guest that I had. Cliff, I'm gonna tell
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: you one thing. Cody speak here is one of my
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: up and comers in this on this network, he really is.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I put him on with my Santos the hold Zone.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: We had him Allen Greenberg, and I've been hang around
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: with George kron and I. So Cody knows the stuff
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: and every opportunity that we get to provide him with
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: something that he can learn, we do. Cliff, I know again,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: this is a subject that I was really glad to
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: bring you on. Are there any last thoughts about expansion
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: that you want to add, because I know we've thrown
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of cities out there, We've made a case
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: for lots of major sittings. But this you have the
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: floor for a minute or two to put a bow
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: All right, Just yeah, I've pretty much hit all my
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: my my points that I care about the league, care
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: about the game. I wanted to be what I feel
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: it should be. You know, it's to rival at least
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: the NFL and Major League Baseball and all that. And
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: because I get it, I know a lot of people
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: in this room, in our inn, this room right now
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: get it, but a lot of people outside don't. It's
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: so I want the league to look and be as
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: successful as possible, and I think that can only happen
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: with finding the right markets, finding the right places for
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: it to work. I don't want it to go back
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: to Arizona. We didn't really talk.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: About that, but well too bad?
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: Are you sure about that?
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: With Betman?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Beman loves to.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, I'll tell you why I
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: am sure about it. Number One, he owned that team
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: for a long time. Number two, they moved it to Utah,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: And number three, they don't have a stadium built, the
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: running out of time. And then you will add these
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: two markets to it. Yeah. I he did everything he
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: could to keep it in Arizona, and it wasn't until
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: they ended up going to a four or five thousand
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: cined arena. Said I can't handle that. They're not even
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: paying Odelo and they moved them to Utah. So yeah, Cliff,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, my friend, you're the most laid back,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: easy going person. You're of all the people here alone me,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: you're the least likely one to have a heart attack,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: and I'm probably the most likely one to. But to worry, Cliff, Okay,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: they're not going back to Arizona. They don't have a
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: place to play, and they never had a place to play.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: He doesn't seem to care. It's the same argument with
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: the TV market. Yeah, but they didn't care about it
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: because they cared more about like ASU golf. Mma.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, Cliff, you got it wrong. They never
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: had the location of the stadium right. If they put
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: it in stats State, it would have been different. You
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: can't put it in Glendale. You can't put it. You
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: can't put it in a stadium that to me, well,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: it's about the most disgusting thing that to call a
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: stadium for hockey. You should have put it in an
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: old fairground stadium where you had a puncher chance. I
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: have it atmosphere, So no Arizona. I remember many years
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: ago watching The Night of the Living dead as a movie.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: But this is not one of the Night of Living Dead.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Arizona's not coming back. Well, I'll tell you one thing.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: I'll give you a homework assignment the next time I
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: bring you on the show. Okay, okay about Arizona and
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: everybody should think about this in logic. Okay, here's your
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: homework assignment when I bring it back, watch the Lion King. Okay,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: is what I want you to do, Cliff, because Acuna
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Matata no worries. They're not going back to Arizona. Okay.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Oh god, Okay, So why did they Why did they
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: race the history when when they went to Utah, Oh,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: we're gonna keep We're gonna keep the history, We're gonna
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: keep the hit. We're gonna keep the history here like
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: they did with Cleveland, which one I thought was ridiculous.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you preserving?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: It was like, this isn't the Cleveland Browns. There was
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: a reason they kept them there, kept that history there.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Why you're doing this year?
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: But one of the players found his jersey that was
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: retired up during the garbage and he saw it and
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: he took it all. Did you know that I didn't
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: about yo, now you do. He took his retired jersey
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: or whatever they stuck up in the banner over at
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Mullendarina or whatever you call, and he took it home.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: They threw it away. There's no history there. The only
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: history is you have who knows those trades? And that's
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: the only Spanish I know one, two, three. You have sons,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: you have diamondbacks, and you have who's the other team, Arnold,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: that's all you have. Coyotes are and Ernie Harwell said saying, oh, Gode, right, Ernie,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I mean George, I'm giving you all the reference. Now
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: there's another night of sleep gone. I'll tell you I
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: lose lights to sleep really quick. They're they're like my
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Knights of Sleep are like Mercedes, fans, Rolls, Roys and catalyze.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: They're a luxury because they don't have much. So don't worry, Cliff.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: You can have every darn graph you want out there,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: and don't worry. Just don't put Arizona on it. I
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: hope I gave you a history lesson about the Grand
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: Canyon State. Okay, and there and in the Valley of
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: the Sun. There won't be any more valleys when it
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: comes to hockey. It is dead. The bet all you
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: have down there, I think is the Tucson Roadrunners. I
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: don't even know if there's that minor league team over
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: and I don't worry even at w A h and
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: make it with the Meeting's Roadrunners. You have all that business.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Don't worry anything else you want to add, No, that's it.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Just had a great time tonight and God blessed.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Right, So Cliff with that, So why don't let everybody
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: know how they can get a hold of you? Now,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: what are you doing?
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: I'm just on Facebook. I don't do any podcasts or
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: anything like that. Yeah, I'm on Facebook and you might
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: stump around me and work a thousands.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Well, you're a good friend of mine. Hey, it's a
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: good friend of mine. He appears on our shows and
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: the chat room. And you know what, Cliff, I look
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: forward to the day I promised I bring it back
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: another time. I will. You never know through a messenger
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: when I'm gonna bring it back again. But tonight was
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: a good opportunity during the summer to bring out this
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: hot topic that Gary Betman thinks that he does believe
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: that Atlanta could be if the third time is the
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: term and that's why they're looking forward to it, which
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: is why we came up with the title. Will Atlanta
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: get a third NHL team? I'm going to say myself yes,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: and I'll ask everybody around one more time with in
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: respect to the top Cody, do you think they we'll
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: get a thirteen? Yes or no?
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: After Houston?
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, well, but they'll get it. To you, They'll
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: get a third chance, right.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: As long as it's the Thrashers.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know, but the Thrasher. But Atlanta will
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: get a third day. I got so much I'm gonna
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: get out of you, all right, Katie.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 7: Yes, I think eventually will I think there's some other
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 7: cities ahead of them, but eventually, yes, I.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: Think, George, Yes, they will get one.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: And I'm in agreement with Cody that Houston and Atlanta
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: are the best choices. But yes, answer your question.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: Up to me. I'd like to see the Flames come back.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: But there's a certain thing about those jerseys today with
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: the big old A with the Flames on there. All right, well,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: all right, well, Cliff, it was his information, George, Cody,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: go ahead, and then Candy will take us home for
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: the final station break.
• 1:22:21
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• 1:22:23
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• 1:22:28
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• 1:22:31
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• 1:22:33
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• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: You'll be happy to know, Cliff.
• 1:22:35
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• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: On all Right, Cody here next all Right.
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  Speaker 6: You can find my dad and I at Roley Quack
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  Speaker 6: on all things podcast platforms and social media. We just
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  Speaker 6: finished up our own special episodes where we had some
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  Speaker 6: guests on. We made an all time Ducks team and
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  Speaker 6: an all time Kings team, and I just I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: put it in the chat GTP and have it play
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  Speaker 6: against each other and I'll have the results this Saturday
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  Speaker 6: when we go live. We go live every Saturday at
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  Speaker 6: stay tuned for the results. And the one that I
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  Speaker 6: recently just had a lot of fun with that the
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  Speaker 6: idea I came up with on my own was we
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  Speaker 6: did a what if the NHL did a March Madness
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  Speaker 6: style tournament, single elimination, thirty two teams. Yeah, I had
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  Speaker 6: a lot of fun with that. I did it through
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  Speaker 6: the NHL twenty five video game, and let's just say
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  Speaker 6: it was a wild outcome. That's what I'm gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: All Gonna says he doesn't know. Sometimes we keep him
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  Speaker 1: a little bit lost when it comes to history about
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  Speaker 1: certain things. When it comes to what he just said,
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  Speaker 1: we're lost. That's how that generation thing comes into play.
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  Speaker 1: Great stuff, And I'll tell you one thing, I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: that we bring him on because he's an awful lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun and he's one of my favorite analysts, especially
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the Ford played on a frozen Pond.
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  Speaker 1: He's a video guy where the we're the historical people,
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  Speaker 1: but somehow, some way, Coey think is where it's at
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to Hockey Lit alone with Mitch Antos
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's gonna announce that.
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  Speaker 7: It is gonna be called Talking Baseball and it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Scott, all right, thank you, Candy so On be
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