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Hour Three | World Cup Talk, Micah Parsons on Caleb Williams & NFL Bounce-Back Teams · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
• 0:03
  Speaker 2: Say Hester and Hester.
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: At a pat from carrying each other to and Natty
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  Speaker 1: to carrying each other on.
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  Speaker 3: The air's prop control.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: Live from the Raising Kine Studio. It's off the bench,
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: all right.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back, oh phoebe here from the Raise of Kane Studio.
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  Speaker 4: I am fired up for the World Cup. Always fired
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  Speaker 4: up for the World Cup. It's one of my favorite
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  Speaker 4: sporting events. Anything that like doesn't happen every year.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the Olympics.
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  Speaker 4: You get fired up for the Olympics, and we got
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  Speaker 4: fired up for like Team USA in the hockey. I
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  Speaker 4: love something that is like spread out like that. Now, look,
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  Speaker 4: we love the Super Bowl and the World Series and
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  Speaker 4: the NBA Finals have been fantastic. But there is something
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  Speaker 4: about when you don't have access to something every single
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  Speaker 4: year and you only get it, you know, every so often.
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  Speaker 4: I think that it just adds to the stakes because
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  Speaker 4: think about it, like you can be you know, you're
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  Speaker 4: you're twenty four years old and you didn't make the
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  Speaker 4: World Cup roster. It's like, man, I'm going to be
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  Speaker 4: twenty eight the next time this comes around, Like, am
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  Speaker 4: I going to be good?
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  Speaker 2: Enough to make it then it's like something too. Just
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  Speaker 2: not having.
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  Speaker 4: Access to it every single year that just you know,
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  Speaker 4: raises it to another level.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I mean, you see it with a couple
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  Speaker 5: of different sporting events, right, and World Cup certainly probably
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  Speaker 5: the most popular outside of you know, the Olympics.
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  Speaker 6: That's kind of like that.
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  Speaker 5: It's a lot of training and a lot of time
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  Speaker 5: and a lot of just emotions put in into that
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  Speaker 5: one event. Yeah, and the fact that it's all you know,
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  Speaker 5: focused around sports is awesome because all that preparation, all
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  Speaker 5: that time, all that waiting, the country's hopes, everybody watching,
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  Speaker 5: and it can all come down to pen on a kick, right,
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  Speaker 5: It all come down to one little moment.
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  Speaker 4: It can come down to if I'm the if I'm
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  Speaker 4: the keeper, do I dive left or right?
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  Speaker 6: Do I dive left or right? That's it?
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh And four years of yeah, getting.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what's always so heart bread, that's what's so
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  Speaker 5: captivating about these types of events. And like that's why
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  Speaker 5: I like the Olympics so much. It's like that, all
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  Speaker 5: the training in the hours and the dedicating everything to you,
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  Speaker 5: it comes down to like one flip or one spin
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  Speaker 5: or one whatever it is, one sweep of a broom
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  Speaker 5: on the curling rink. It's just it's it's awesome and
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  Speaker 5: that's why you lock in, even if you aren't a
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  Speaker 5: fan of that sport.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, I don't watch soccer, but I'll watch the World Cup.
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  Speaker 5: I don't watch figure skating, but I watch it in
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  Speaker 5: the Olympics. I don't watch track and field, but I'm
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  Speaker 5: locked in during the Olympics, right like that, And that's
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  Speaker 5: what is that's what's so cool about these things and
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  Speaker 5: on the world stage.
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  Speaker 6: And I know that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like in America, a lot of people like me
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  Speaker 5: are in the minority worldwide when it comes like I
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  Speaker 5: don't lock into soccer except for this. So I can
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  Speaker 5: just imagine like being a soccer fan that is locked
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  Speaker 5: in throughout and then all of a sudden you get this.
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  Speaker 5: It's kind of like me watching golf, because I'm usually
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  Speaker 5: locked in with golf. It's like, and then the Ryder
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  Speaker 5: Cup comes. Now that's every two years, so it's not
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  Speaker 5: like an every four year thing, but like it's I
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  Speaker 5: watch it, and then you got this big event that
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  Speaker 5: you can.
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  Speaker 6: Look forward to.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm excited about it. I'm looking for I'm looking
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  Speaker 5: forward to just the scenes around, you know, college stadiums,
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  Speaker 5: pro stadiums, just everything.
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  Speaker 6: It's gonna be gonna be really fun.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Argentina played uh at Auburn, so like that's
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  Speaker 4: not something I thought i'd ever say.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So yeah, MESSI walking off, Yeah, MESSI walking off
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  Speaker 5: the field of Jordan Air.
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  Speaker 2: We should have had one of those here, probably a little.
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  Speaker 6: Too hot, Maybe we should have what didn't we?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what else.
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  Speaker 4: It is like the part of it that is cool,
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  Speaker 4: Like you mentioned, I think I am somebody as as
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  Speaker 4: you know, love soccer, so like I love watching all
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  Speaker 4: the Americans in their different clubs.
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  Speaker 6: There's so many different leagues.
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  Speaker 4: Worldwide that they can play in, be it here or
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  Speaker 4: be it you know, over in Europe or South America
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  Speaker 4: or Mexico, so many different leagues. But it's you know,
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  Speaker 4: you see them progress with their team and then they
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  Speaker 4: kind of all come together to try to make the
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  Speaker 4: best possible squad that you can for the US. And
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  Speaker 4: look when fosters come out, there's always like, hey, why
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  Speaker 4: didn't you include that guy? Wait a minute, that guy
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  Speaker 4: got left out, and so like those are big, even
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  Speaker 4: the roster announcements of who's going to be playing in
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  Speaker 4: the matches is always a lot of fun, but there's
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  Speaker 4: probably also something pretty cool, like for you, like you
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  Speaker 4: don't know what in the world is going on, you're
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  Speaker 4: just rooting for America.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I know a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: When I was in Green Bay, me and Graham Harrell
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  Speaker 5: used to play FIFA World Cup soccer, so I pretty
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  Speaker 5: much know all the rules.
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  Speaker 6: There's three rules of soccer.
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  Speaker 4: Man, you say that, No, there's truely, no, there's truly
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  Speaker 4: three rules to soccer. Don't touch the ball with your hand,
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  Speaker 4: don't cherry pick, so don't be all sides, and don't
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  Speaker 4: be an a hole.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, that's the three rules of soccer. Okay, what is
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  Speaker 6: Why are they called cherry picking?
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  Speaker 4: You know, like you're playing pickup basketball and you're just
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  Speaker 4: like you're not playing defense. You're just standing under the goal, right,
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  Speaker 4: just waiting for them and they're just going to pass it
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  Speaker 4: to you. That's why all sides was created. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: just like hockey outside same situation.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, hockey and soccer rules are very very very similar.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit tougher in hockey the player.
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  Speaker 6: Just at about.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, I mean same same set of rules, like
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  Speaker 4: you have to have a defender past the point when
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  Speaker 4: the ball is sent to you, just so you don't
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  Speaker 4: sit there and hang out by the goal of the
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  Speaker 4: entire time. And so like that's a strategy. Like teams
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  Speaker 4: like play a line that's going to be a little
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  Speaker 4: bit farther back. If you're a team that's got like
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  Speaker 4: a lot of speed, and they're gonna like, if they
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  Speaker 4: feel like you don't have that much athletic ability, they're
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  Speaker 4: going to push up a little bit. So they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: press you a little bit because they think their defenders
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  Speaker 4: can keep up with your strikers.
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  Speaker 2: So there's obviously strategy brought into it.
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  Speaker 6: Just keep everybody in midfield.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, then you get a counter attack and you're in trouble. Nope,
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  Speaker 4: you're in trouble at that point, Cayle counter you counter
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  Speaker 4: Do we want to pick who we think is gonna
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  Speaker 4: win the World Cup and you can't pick USA.
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  Speaker 3: We do like a very quick research, real quick yeah right, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: many teams are in this.
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  Speaker 5: Man, will let me do a sixty four team situation.
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  Speaker 7: SPAN's a good choice, Spain's a good choice. Matthew m h.
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  Speaker 6: I don't even know who's in it?
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  Speaker 8: The world World?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, pick a country. There's a chance they're in it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a really good chance.
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  Speaker 6: You pick a country that they're in it. All right?
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  Speaker 6: Who won the last time?
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  Speaker 5: Columbia, No, Argentine, Argentina.
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  Speaker 4: Mexico, South Africa, South Korea, Czech Republic, Canada, and Bosnia,
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  Speaker 4: US Paraguay.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, Spain is actually the favorite.
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  Speaker 4: Brazil, Morocco, Haiti, Scotland, Australia.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they made it.
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  Speaker 8: Columbia plus four thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Netherlands, Germany.
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  Speaker 6: How's England's doing this year?
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  Speaker 4: England is always really really good with an incredible squad.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, they are known to not perform well on
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  Speaker 4: the biggest stage.
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  Speaker 6: This is their year, it's their year, England locking in.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to England, all right? That's not Look, that's
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  Speaker 2: not I mean, I.
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  Speaker 5: Just me and me and just watch The Patriot with
• 8:44
  Speaker 5: Huck the other day for the first time. We introduced
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  Speaker 5: because he did a little American history this past year.
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  Speaker 6: So we watched The Patriot. That's a good movie.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I can't go dom Me give you the ten,
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  Speaker 4: the top ten and the FIFA rankings give you a
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  Speaker 4: better idea. Argentina one Spain to France three, England one four,
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  Speaker 4: Portugal five, Brazil six, Morocco seven, Netherlands eight, Belgium nine, Germany.
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  Speaker 6: Ten Morocco would be fun.
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  Speaker 8: Morocco's plus five thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Salty are they Yeah, they're tough.
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  Speaker 8: Another plus five thousand, you get good odds, Yeah, Usa
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  Speaker 8: plus six thousand.
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  Speaker 4: I mean they're gonna win, obviously, Germany's won their last
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  Speaker 4: five matches.
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  Speaker 6: We're going Netherlands.
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  Speaker 8: Netherlands plus two thousand.
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  Speaker 2: What's Germany on that board?
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  Speaker 8: Plus fourteen hundred Portugal I'm blind, I'm not seeing them on.
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  Speaker 4: Here's see, I'm about to get really good odds a Portugal.
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  Speaker 8: Portugal's plus eight hundred.
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  Speaker 2: M I know, I want some juice.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Brazil, I want some juice.
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  Speaker 8: Brazil's plus nine hundred.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going I'm gonna say Germany because almost some almost
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  Speaker 4: some good odds.
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  Speaker 6: Spain.
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  Speaker 3: I want to turn on the nether Londons in Germany. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna I'm a little bit off the board.
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  Speaker 3: You talked about them a little bit last year. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like everybody from this country is tough.
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  Speaker 6: Going.
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  Speaker 3: Croatiaoh little, give me a little Croatia.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I want want some grit.
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  Speaker 4: Croatia eleven, fe for rankings, I want some grit, just
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  Speaker 4: to give you up until where the United States is?
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  Speaker 4: Croatias eleventh, italyst twelfth, Columbia thirteen, Mexico fourteen, Senegogue fifteen,
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  Speaker 4: Urugua is sixteen, and US is seventeen.
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  Speaker 6: What didn't we dominate Mexico's face?
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  Speaker 2: We always do, but we.
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  Speaker 3: Did, We did dominate their face.
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  Speaker 4: We don't really like Mexico and USA like switch between
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  Speaker 4: fourteen and eighteen all the time.
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  Speaker 8: Can I change my pick? I don't want to pick
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  Speaker 8: the favorite. I don't know they were the favorite.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, this is this is our show.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we do whatever we want, even if the wolf
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: Back Police knocks on the door.
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: If we don't want to answer, we w PPD.
• 11:05
  Speaker 6: We gotta show that badge, by the way, Yeah we do.
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  Speaker 8: Okayum, you know what I'll represent.
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  Speaker 2: I'll go to.
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  Speaker 8: Mexico scope plus sixty five hundred.
• 11:16
  Speaker 6: Oh there it is.
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  Speaker 8: Look at that.
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  Speaker 6: It's the official badge. I can't believe they carry this.
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  Speaker 8: The dog looks so dumb with the tie.
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: That's gonna be the That is their fit. That's their
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  Speaker 3: one knon dog on the force.
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  Speaker 6: Not a dog. It's a oh.
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  Speaker 8: True, looks like a dog.
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  Speaker 3: Mexico, Netherlands, Germany, Croatia.
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  Speaker 6: I like it.
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  Speaker 3: Surprised nobody went with Ivorylanders. A little bit of an upset.
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  Speaker 6: Your coast is salty too.
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  Speaker 8: Now let's see who has the.
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  Speaker 3: I was in between Ivory coasts.
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  Speaker 2: He's probably going to have the worst dots to win.
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  Speaker 8: It's actually Jordans. Really well, I guess Jordan's Michael Haiti
• 12:01
  Speaker 8: Iraq they have the worst odds. And Qatar or Cutter,
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  Speaker 8: whatever you call it.
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  Speaker 4: We went back and forth and every time I said it,
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  Speaker 4: T Bop said it another way when it was happening there.
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  Speaker 3: And wait, wait, there's a there's a debate on us.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was Katar.
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  Speaker 8: It's either Cutter or Qatar, Like people say.
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  Speaker 3: It different ways.
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  Speaker 5: People on the military Cutter. Yeah, so I would believe that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: they visited you as a good question. Netherlands, right, is
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  Speaker 5: that the people from the Netherlands are the Dutch m h.
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  Speaker 5: But it's also it called like Holland as well.
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  Speaker 7: From Holland, Like why are they called the Dutch?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think, Like, are they not called the Hollanders?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah? Or the Netherlanders. I don't know. Why are they
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  Speaker 6: called the Dutch.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know even they were from like that should
• 13:03
  Speaker 5: be you from Denmark?
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  Speaker 6: Maybe what are you the fuzz?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know question. I'm asking the questions. It is Vid,
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  Speaker 5: it is vid.
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  Speaker 2: Uh uh Nook.
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  Speaker 4: Let us know, because Nook you lived in the Netherlands
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  Speaker 4: for a little bit. If I'm not mistaken, let us
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  Speaker 4: know what the difference is, why it's called, what it is,
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  Speaker 4: and what name you officially use if you're ate local.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we will take a break.
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• 13:29
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  Speaker 2: And then I threw it out there.
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  Speaker 4: I said, okay, I said outside of I said, I'll
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: give you three that I'm not going to have a
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: conversation about, I said Stafford Borough Allen. I was like,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: but I don't know that. The list is much longer
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: than that. Before I gets to Kayleb Williams. Now that, well,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I'm coming out, I'll coming off injury, you know obviously,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: So this wasn't like what they've done like this year.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Mahomes is like kind of the wild card because the
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: injury and if he comes back, it's Mahomes. And I
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: also said this, I said, Kayler Williams is the only
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: thing that we have that resembles Patrick. Mahomes is the
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: only thing now Bo Nick's, Jade Daniels, Drake May They
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: all have made it farther in the playoffs than Kayleb Williams,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: no doubt, and we know what how we think about
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: those quarterbacks, but certainly JD five here on this show.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: But you got to give Kayler Williams his credit.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we've laundering out, but we have like that guy
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: when when they hired that was more than Yeah, for sure,
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: public nobody was talking about last year, but the people
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: were writing him off as a bust after the first
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: year with that and head coach e Refluce whatever whatever
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: his name was with that, because like, who's going to
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: be successful in that situation as a rookie quarterback, Like,
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: that's a no win situation. So last year to me
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: was like Taylor Williams first year. Yeah, That's how I
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: viewed it.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Which which is why I always hate the let's let's
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: bring in a rookie quarterback with a lame duckhead coach.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: He's essentially starting over in here now.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: And but when they hired Ben Johnson, like I had,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: I had watched a lot of the Lions tape from
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: the year the previous year. I mean, like, this is
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: a legitimate offense right here. Yeah, it makes sense. They're
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: doing different things. The quarterback turns us back to the
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: d Like they're doing all the things that I would
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: like to think that I would do as a constructor
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: of an offense and a play caller. And so I
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: was like this guy, like I don't know if people
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: like forgot just because of like the talent that he
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: actually has. Yeah, he's the most talented probably quarterback in
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: the NFL, like current talent it wise in the NFL.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: And I don't even say as far as the throw football,
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: the football, the runner can do it everything, throw off balance,
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: throw like.
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: Like any pressure too, like the the.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Arm strength, the accuracy that he can have like when
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: he plays in time, but like the throws that he
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: can make, nobody else is making him. Right now, this
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: was this was like Aaron Rodgers back, you know, when
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: he was in his prime as well, no one could
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: do things with the football that he could. I think
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Caleb Williams is in that that same breath. So as
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: far as talent wise, now we'll see, like sky's the
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: limit for him.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: But like for Michael Parsons.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: To say this, people to get mad at him, it's
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: a little bit, you know, I get it, like it's
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: a division rival, Like there's certain lines you don't cross
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: in rivalries and sports in general. But he's just kind
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: of given credit because he's been on the field with him, right, Yeah,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: and Green Bay has it has their own really good quarterback.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: But the ceilings higher for Callab william that it is
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: for Jordan Love.
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: I think so too.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: That's not taking anything away from Jordan Love. I think
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: he has shown that what was it two years ago,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: no quarterback was playing better? It was that last games
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Jordan Love, please say.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, like so the ceiling is is not now.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna fall off the map, but
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: like when I'm watch him, like he's going to a
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: greade high in film, he's gonna get a lot of
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: check marks, and I'm like, you know what, I wish
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: you would have ripped that ball though in that window
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: right there, it might have gotten you a negative play.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: But man, he does some not yeah, going back to
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: do too much?
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: He needs to find in twenty twenty three where he
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: was like really really good, but everybody was like, watch
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: to take some risk, like if through an interception, it's okay.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Remember the Tennessee game, He's like, you gotta throw that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: How many after that game he was the best quarterback
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: on the planet Coast football.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: How many years his Jordan Love be the starter? Is
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: it three full seasons?
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: He's going into year four? Sound, I don't know a
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: year before and he's going into year four.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Going into your Aaron was two years of the Jets,
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: one year with the Sisters.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's going into your four. It's weird, Like
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: to Jake's point, like I just feel like when I
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: watch Jordan Love. I'm like, I still don't know what
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: he is, and he's going into year four. Like at
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: times you're like, oh, he's awesome. At times are like
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I like Jordan Love, but it's
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: like it's almost like you're going into year four and
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: you still don't quite know how good he is.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Kind of like the and I'm not making this comparison
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: because he's so much better, but like kind of comparison
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: to C. J. Stroud's playing his first year, I played
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: like the first year Jordan Love played towards the back half.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: That scene and like lea'son, that's what we got the contract.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: I was like, you better, like if you're in the
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: NFL or now, you want somebody else to beat the
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Packers right now and get him out because you don't
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: want to face the way he's playing.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: Nobody in the NFL is playing better than him.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Then since then, it's kind of been a regression, like consistently,
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: but you see those moments, you see those flashes, like
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: you see what he was doing, but he was doing
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: it week in week out. That first year. He was
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: a starter, and I compared to see the trout because
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: see the Stroud was like an incredible rookie year. Since then,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: I think objectively a disaster since then.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you may give you the the fifteen top graded quarterbacks,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: and again, if you're grading something, you might get a
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: positive check mark or a negative one where I'm like,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I don't really care, I really like that, but I'm
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: just giving you, according to Pro Football Focus, the top
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: fifteen graded quarterbacks, and you had to play a certain
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: amount of snaps.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: So the forty nine ers actually have two in there.
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: Oh okay.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Mac Jones comes in at fifteen, Cayleb Williams comes in
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: at fourteen, Bo Nick's at thirteen, Jared Golf at twelve,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Justin Herbert at eleven, Sam Darnold at ten, Jay one
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Hurts at nine, Drake May at eight, Trevor Lawrence at seven,
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Brock Perty at six, Dak Prescott at five, Jordan Love
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: at four, Josh Allen at three, Joe Burrow at two,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford at one.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: So that's what it goes back to. You said, like,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Jordan Love just feels safe at times, he kind of
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: backs down.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: He's not going to get the negative heart.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: It would be Josh Allen's a guy that seems like
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: not always going to grade the best, but he just
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: makes the blaze.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: But also his running grade is going to help him
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: out in the fatality of the grade because he's got
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: a ninety point eight running grade. The only quarterback that's
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: even in the eighties in the top fifteen or two
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams at eighty two point one and Justin Herbert
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: at eighty two point seven.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: So that helps him out a ton in this.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: If we went just if you wanted me to just go,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: passing grade, just passing grade. It goes Stafford, Borough, Love, Prescott, Allen, Perty,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Lawrence Darnold, Golf Hurts, may Nicks, Jones, Jayden.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: Daniels, and just to kind of like round out this
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: conversation a little bit about Parsons and what he said,
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: blah blah blah, I will be placing a bet on
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Caleb Williams win the MVP this year.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: The hype is there preseason for it. There for you
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: here too with Ben Johnson, got a little bit more weapons,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I think Colston, right, you need to be you need to.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: Be good, you need to have impactful, you need to
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: be impactful in the win loss column. And they're going
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: to be good and he's going to have moments. It's
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: going to have moments.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: How was their draft the Bears.
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he does radio for.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Him, So I do think real quick because they got
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: rid of DJ More for the second round sick, So
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: that's part of their draft process. I do think that
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: is because they think Luther Burden is about to blow up.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: And Luther Burdens showed flashes.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: A year ago. So they went left tackle.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Last year and so it's still a position that's a
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: little bit because they're like tackle they took in the
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: second round last year is going through an injury. So
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: they signed Jedrick Willis, who's certainly not been what they thought.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Remember they took Zavian Thomas in the third round. That
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: surprised a lot of people. Uh they went defense, uh
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: peneman from Oregon, safe, great player in the first round.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: But their issues weren't on offense. Their issues were on defense.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Soccer Dennis Allen, they were bad, bad, and so they
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: signed Devin Bush from Cleveland. They signed Kobe Bryant from Seattle.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Those are two really good moves. They drafted them in
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: in the first round. Like I mentioned, Malik Muhammad from
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Texas to him in the fourth round.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: He's a stud in the fourth round. He kind of did, uh,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: he's a really good player.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: Or was it Barry On that I don't remember who
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: it was. But anyway, like I had stock in the
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: Bears last season, so I watched quite a bit of
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: their games, and I feel like defense sure was their weakness,
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: but I feel like they're pretty like well run team,
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: and like I really like that.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah it's been a while.
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but I really like Ben Johnson.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah. That being said, though, Gopat go beat the Bear's face.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bears are only going to get better. Man,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Like I saw this yesterday. Actually, it's weird we're talking
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: about this. Colston lovelin his last two games of the
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: regular season ninety four yards in a touchdown, ninety one
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: yards in a touchdown playoff a game against Green Bay,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty seven yards on eight catches. He
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: had almost eight hundred yards receiving as a rookie tight
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: end last year. I mean, that's a guy and he
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: only started eleven games. That's a guy that he starts
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: all sixteen for you, he stays healthy. Like, that's a
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: potential top five tight end in the league. You give
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: a guy like that to Caleb Williams, he's only going
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: to go up from here.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: They're gonna be in the conversation in January. Yep, they
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: will be there, not.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: If JJ McCarthy has anything so about it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: Not if nine has it's right.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I don't Did you put him in your
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: winning twelve Maymber? We did the exercise games when I
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: put him in there?
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: I put him in there?
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Did you?
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: I don't remember.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I got a I don't know.
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: Taylor didn't put anybody from that division, he said, because
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: it's such a good one.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: So so nationally is everybody. What is the viewpoint on
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: the Bears this year?
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: My co host Pat Krwin and I are pretty high
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: on them. I think people are reluctant to get themselves
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: over to elite like top tier status. They're kind of like,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: we liked what we saw, we don't know if.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: We can trust it for another year.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: And they have a lot of issues about the defense
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: and did you do enough to improve that?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: So, like I would say, like solid B tier type.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: It's one of those things like do it again, how
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: do you navigate a tough division? Like That's where I'm at.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I think they're awesome. Like, do they win twelve? I
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: think they're closed.
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: I know Dennis Allen's going to get this right.
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: The division, I mean all Joseph Sidey's done pretty good
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: on defense.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: They were real bad last year though.
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Caleb Williams plus fourteen hundred to win the MVP
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: favorites Josh Allen obviously plus five.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: I'll tell it. Yeah, I mean the Bears make the run.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: But my god, everybody's got to get through the Rams
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: this year.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing, right, Like the Seahawks ain't going nowhere.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: No, They're going to La to play the Rams.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: We did a fun exercise yesterday too, where we looked
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: at teams and what they where they finished last year,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: and could we get to four teams that will win
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: five more games than they did last year? Four teams
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: to win five more than a year ago. You're doing
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: come back.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: I want to do that. I want to actually like
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: not Toro today Thursday for a little bit. I don't
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: want to like just I just won't want to pull
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: something out of my ear.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Oh see you actually like, are you now if we
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: pushed to tomorrow, are you going to remember to do this?
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: That's a great point. We should just do it next
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: next sele.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: We'll do it when we come back here on O TV.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's see. Let's start with.
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  Speaker 4: A Landra the four team that can win five more
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: games than they did a year ago.
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: Okay, so I don't know if I can get to four.
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: And I just told you on the breath that I
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: was kind of struggling with this assignment.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: That's part of it from the homework. It's difficult.
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: So I said the giants and everybody was like, nah,
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: But I feel like with John Harbaugh Jackson Dart's second season,
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: Cam Scataboo.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, rvil reees, rvel rees.
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: He's got a legs.
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: He does have a leg if he has a brain.
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: But I mean, I don't feel very I told you
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: all that I'm kind of out on the Commanders, so
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: I feel like that could be a game that they win.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: I told you I was struggling with this one. I'm
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: not gonna act like I know what I'm talking about.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: Well, that's good.
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: The Giants and then the Cardinals only had three wins.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Default, I feel like I look when I when I
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: say my list, I'll go ahead and you'll get an idea.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: This is a very difficult exercise to donati even a conversation.
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: I think the Bengals, they only had six wins last season.
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: I mean, Joe Burrow, you can't keep him down for
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: too long. I don't think so did some work in
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: the off season to build around him. So I don't
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: know the I'm gonna go Giants. I'm gonna go Cardinals
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: because they only had three wins. Cincinnati on the Jets
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: only had three wins too, but they're so bad. Titans
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: only had three, but they're also really bad now. The Chiefs,
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: I don't know, because Patrick Mahomes is coming off a
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: cl tiar, a c.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: L and L and LCL, a tough ass division.
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: There's no way that I'm I don't know if I
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: can get myself to eleven wins with the Saints either,
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: So I don't know who i'd picked for the fourth one,
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: but there it is, all right.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: And again I like the fact that you realized how
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: difficult this was, because five wins in the NFL is
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: very hard to do from one year to another. And
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: like Matt said, there's some teams that just they literally
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: can't like if you're in fourteen games, can't like pick the.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: Worst schedule because it's the easiest to get that number
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: because they're the worst teams. Yeah, right, Cardinals three and whatever.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: They were like, they're not getting.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Eight, all right, so I'll give you my four teams.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: And I had actually a lot of the same thoughts
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: that Elandra had. I went with the New York Giants. Yeah,
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: they had four wins a year ago, they were four
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: and thirteen. I absolutely should all proceed them same four
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: getting to nine wins, Like with the moves that they've made,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: if they can stay healthy, they had some young players
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: to step up. Now, Malik Neighbors and his health, that's
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: going to be a key portion of this. But I
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: like Francis mal Noah in the draft I like matl Fields.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: In the draft, you went out and you drafted RVL Reeves,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: which I can't wait to see what the package looks
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: like with him. It's gonna have to be creative, but
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: he's a very good player. DJ Reider and Shelby Harris
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: to shore up the front, they did a lot of
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: heavy lifting in the all season with free agents and
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: through the draft, So I like that pick a lot.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Then I go to Cincinnati Bingles. I absolutely can see
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: them flipping it and going eleven and six with that offense.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: They've made changes on defense as well. Easily can get
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: you there. And I think that division is there for
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: the taking three new head coaches. That's not a division
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: that's had new in a long time. Then you go
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: to the Kansas City Chiefs right now, very difficult division,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: one of the best, I probably the second best division
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: in football.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: But it is the Chiefs.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: It is Patrick Mahomes, it is Andy Reid. If anybody
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: can do it, it's them. They could flip the script and
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: go eleven and six. We've seen them do it before. Yeah,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: So Giants, Bengals, Chiefs.
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I almost went to New Orleans. I almost went Washington.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Those were my two that I that I just left out.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: But from my four team, I went with the New
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: York Jets. Okay, the New York Jets won three games
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: last year. The Miami Dolphins won seven in that same division.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: The Miami Dolphins are not gonna win seven games this year.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: They completely tore down.
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: To the studs.
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: If they start, will there you go?
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Those wins have to go to someone camp all right.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: I don't think the Patriots are going to be as
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: good as they were a year ago. Buffalo is going
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: to be right there. But if you objectively look at
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: what the Jets did in.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: The draft, I loved.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Look they got Omar Cooper Junior from Indiana, who I love,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: in the first round. They got Kenyon Sadik in the
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: first round. So you got two weapons. Now, the Geno
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Smith part of it, I get that you give Breeze
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Hall a new deal, but it's on the defense to
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Mario Davis, David Anyamana, Tovandre Sweat who they traded for.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: They drafted David Bailey, who we all liked in the
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: pre draft process. You drafted Angelo Pons, loved him in Indiana.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: You trade for Mika Fitzpatrick, You've it's a completely new roster.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: You were horrible a year ago. You did not have
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: an interception as a team. It can't go that bad again.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: So I can see the Jets still. If they're eight
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: to nine, it's not great, but I can see them
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: being eight and nine.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: You you could talk me into that one for sure.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Like I set up here the day after the draft
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: when I was hosting for Hunt, like, great, you got
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: all that talent and he got Geno Smith throwing them
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: the football.
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: Do you know what?
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Geno's one of those guys that doesn't make the catastrophic mistakes,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: at least not a ton like if he can go
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: in there and manage things. You got, Brisaul. You have
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: a ton of weapons. You still have Mason Taylor and
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson to pair with Omar Cooper and Kenyon Sadik.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: You have so many weapons on that offense. There's a shot.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't see the Dolphins winning seven games
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: this year. I'm with you, Jake out of the gate.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: The Patriots schedule so difficult. I don't think they win
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: fourteen games. Those wins in that division got to come
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: from somewhere, Like I could, I can potentially see that happening.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: I can hear the argument because there's not a lot
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: of teams on this list in the NFL that you
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: could argue this point for They're just so there's so
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: much dysfunction. I don't I don't believe in Aaron Glenn
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: at this moment in time, and certainly their front office.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: I don't believe. I don't believe in their owner. So
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: how do they get to what they need to get to?
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Eight nine? They gotta get to eight. It'd be a
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: great season for that. If they got to eight wins.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: They're eight nine and they have an interception on.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: Defense, Yeah, and they have one interception.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Let them win that first game on a pick six.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: They went the entire year, So I know, I have
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: to go back to last year's stats.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: The so my fourth so I had the Bengals, Chiefs, Giants,
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: I had the Commanders in there. But my bubble team
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna throw in there is probably one that you're
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: not gonna pick. You're gonna I'm picking them to have
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: a pretty good season. I'm gonna throw the Ravens in there.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: They went eight to nine. Again, to the same point
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: as you made with the Bengals, They're in a very
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: weak division. There's for the take, and they got the
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: sick Vegas odds makers the six easiest schedule in the
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: NFL this year, two time MVP Lamar Jackson coming back.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: I think they're there to prove a point this year
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: that last year was a mistake. They got a new
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: head coach, not to say the other one was bad, overrated, overrated,
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Some are saying that still a great coach. But whatever,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna pick them to they went eight nights, I'm
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: gonna pick them to go thirteen and four.
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: I chose them in our exercise a week or two
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: ago on teams that will get to over twelve and
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: twelve or over. So I'm gonna stick with that and
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: say the Ravens will go from eight to eight and
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: nine to thirteen and four real quick.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: For me. Giants was the easiest one of those is
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: for me, we really haven't seen Jackson darted elite neighbors
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: play together.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I know my league's battling through some stuff, but if
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: he's fully healthy. With Cam scattaboy back, that's one of
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: the best young trios on offense anywhere in the NFL.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I think They're gonna be a lot better on defense,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: especially across the front. I think the Eagles are going
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: to take a step back. I don't think the Commanders
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: are gonna be good at all. The Cowboys are gonna
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: cowboy in the season. That's a winnable division.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: That's gonna be good.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: If Jayden gets back to what he was healthy, playing
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: like he did, they get there. They're at least gonna
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: be a threat every week.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Sure, Sure, I just great running back room. I worry
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: about the big boys up front. I worry about the
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: past catchers. Like Jayden's gonna do his thing.
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: But he had hit.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: He's gonna have been special again, right, and he can
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: absolutely be special special.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: And he's gonna have to be special against what I
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: think is gonna be three pretty good defenses in his division.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: So it's it's gonna be tough for him.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: In the greatest rookie season.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And it just for whatever reason didn't translate last year.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: He went through he went to some injuries to elbow,
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: he went through some away that he should not go.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, and it might be a homer take.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: That's fine.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: I've just seen that guy work in the shadows I
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: know he's not happy with how last year went. I
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: actually talked with Dan Quinn like not an on air conversation,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: like a per conversation, because I said, Hey, how's my
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: guy doing? Yeah, and he said, man, you know how
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: he is. You know how he's built. He said, there
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: hasn't been a day where I've been like in the
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: building where he hasn't beaten me to the building. Yeah,
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: he said. In the off season, he said he every
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: time he called him and check on him. He was
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: working out in California during the off season as well,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: So he said, I'm expecting him to be right back
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: where he was.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: He's going to be most watch TV. Yeah, absolutely, I
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: just I agree with you.
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: I can't right.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: They need to They need to go sign.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Like when you look at the receivers that are available
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: right now, I think there's some guys that can help out.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels, Stefan Diggs is available. He might be a little,
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: he might be too much with Scary Terry there too.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: He might not want that, But go get a Keenan Allen. Yeah,
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: a third Nate target.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: You needs something. Zach Ertz has been banged up.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's hurt. I mean they'll get him a Keenan Allen.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: You need something outside of Terry. I picked here in
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: our little in our little bold prediction and missed the playoffs.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: And the reason was two years ago. They played a
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: lot of backup qbs like Jaden was great, but that defense,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: the defense didn't hold up. Real quick. I'll go Bingals
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• 42:16
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• 42:16
  Speaker 6: It'd be fun. I like that.
• 42:18
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