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BONUS EPISODE: Pgh Sports Current Events - October 22, 2026 · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

0:00
SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome to another exciting edition of Pittsburgh Sports Memory Current Events.
0:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm your co-host, Steve Wirt.
0:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm joined by I'm Tim Hannon.
0:11
SPEAKER_02: Hey Tim, you like the movies, right?
0:13
SPEAKER_02: I love those.
0:15
SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna kind of do like each little topic as a uh movie theme here.
0:20
SPEAKER_02: Um so we'll start with the Penguins, and uh they went, they decided to go on a West Coast road trip.
0:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, I guess it's on the schedule, they didn't have much of a choice.
0:28
SPEAKER_02: But uh I called this Once Upon a Time on a West Coast Road Trip in honor of the Once Upon a Time in Hollywood by Quentin Tarantino.
0:37
SPEAKER_02: And much like that film, I I mean I don't no no offense to poor Sharon Tate there, but I don't know.
0:44
SPEAKER_02: They didn't have quite that bad of a time, except for Ben Kendall, who apparently had some sort of medical emergency after he left Utah.
0:51
SPEAKER_02: I mean good God.
0:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they they didn't win any games, didn't even be Utah.
0:56
SPEAKER_02: Who loses to frickin' Utah?
0:58
SPEAKER_02: I apparently the Penguins.
1:00
SPEAKER_02: Uh they they lost a couple to like Colorado and um who's the other team?
1:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh oh gosh, Vegas.
1:08
SPEAKER_02: And the other teams are good, but come on, Utah.
1:12
SPEAKER_02: That's like they're barely not the Phoenix Coyotes.
1:14
SPEAKER_00: I'm not the Penguins aren't very good, I think, is the moral of this.
1:19
SPEAKER_00: I know it's early and it's too early to say that.
1:22
SPEAKER_00: But I don't I don't think I think last year was a little bit of a mirage, and I think they're kind of coming back to earth.
1:29
SPEAKER_00: And I was a little bit surprised you didn't go with your movie title for with uh No Country for Old Men.
1:36
SPEAKER_00: Because that's the pattern.
1:38
SPEAKER_02: Might be better, yeah.
1:40
SPEAKER_00: Too many old guys.
1:41
SPEAKER_00: It's it's this is a really weird spot that they're in, Steve, because it kind of feels like Rothlisberger's last couple of years with the Steelers, where like we can't really move forward because there's this iconic legend still on the team, and we can't just tear it all down because the icon iconic legend's still here.
2:01
SPEAKER_00: And oh, by the way, the iconic legend in this case, his contract expires after this year, and I think it would be so devastating for everybody in this town, especially for the Penguins who don't have the the built-in instant loyalty that the Steelers have to have Sidney Crosby not finish his career here.
2:22
SPEAKER_00: And so I think they're stuck between trying to placate him to some degree, but knowing that you've got it, like Brian Ross shouldn't be on the team anymore, Raquel shouldn't be on the team anymore.
2:33
SPEAKER_00: Like anybody over the age of 30, Letang, all these guys just need to it needs to be.
2:39
SPEAKER_02: That's very that's very baby boomer of you uh there, dad.
2:43
SPEAKER_02: Don't trust anybody over 30.
2:46
SPEAKER_00: But but it's it's like they have all these young guys that they've drafted.
2:49
SPEAKER_00: You gotta just start start that process of getting them.
2:52
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be ugly, it's gonna be just like it was in, you know, uh Crosby's yes, exactly.
3:00
SPEAKER_00: Um and hopefully it'll get better before it gets, you know, before it gets too ugly, but it's gonna be a couple years of gross hockey.
3:07
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know that Sydney Crosby's gonna want to stick around for that.
3:10
SPEAKER_00: And like I said, that that would be devastating for all of us to see him finish his career somewhere else.
3:17
SPEAKER_02: Well, every season there's a rumor that he's going to Toronto or Montreal.
3:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:22
SPEAKER_00: Which is nonsense, but but that's because you know, his buddies are still there and his linemates are still there.
3:31
SPEAKER_00: And you know, they the only person that they really got rid of was Gensel.
3:36
SPEAKER_00: And and they they've really just tried so hard to just put a like a it's the Steelers.
3:43
SPEAKER_00: Like I said, it's like, well, let's put at least like a somewhat competitive team around him.
3:47
SPEAKER_00: It never works.
3:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:49
SPEAKER_00: So I I I even if it means losing Crosby, I think you gotta move forward.
3:53
SPEAKER_02: Gensel, like, they shouldn't have got rid of I mean, I'd rather I mean I realized they were gonna lose him anyway, but he's more productive like than Letang or even Vulcan at this point.
4:05
SPEAKER_00: Agreed.
4:05
SPEAKER_00: I would have rather kept him than than or even Rust at this point.
4:09
SPEAKER_00: Although Russ Rust was playing pretty good when he came back.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: But but still, it just it's not so much that like these guys can't ha have flashes anymore, they're completely washed or anything like that.
4:21
SPEAKER_00: It's just that you have to at some point, again, I keep saying this with the Steelers and the quarterback, at some point you gotta move forward.
4:29
SPEAKER_02: Well, they have the goalie, I think.
4:31
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if that I mean, I don't know.
4:33
SPEAKER_02: I guess it's a long season, we'll see how that Russian guy turns out, but if you got a goalie, that's a big piece to move forward with.
4:40
SPEAKER_00: And they have a bunch of other guys too that are young.
4:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:43
SPEAKER_00: McGorder, like uh I you could go up and down the the names of guys.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: It's just you have to let them be the first and second line guys at some point, and that's gonna not be pretty for a while.
4:55
SPEAKER_02: Well, moving on to football, um, I chose the movie Desperately Seeking Susan or Desperately Seeking Mason, or heck, I take Nathan Peterman at this point.
5:07
SPEAKER_02: Maybe Tom Savage, anybody.
5:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
5:11
SPEAKER_02: Uh um it's been uh ugly.
5:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh they lost to BC 27 to 21 in Boston.
5:17
SPEAKER_02: Um Pat Narduzie Nardoozied everyone about a starting quarterback.
5:22
SPEAKER_02: Should that we start calling it that when like a coach lies about a starter?
5:27
SPEAKER_02: You're being nardoozie.
5:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
5:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh Corey Daly uh had a pretty cool first pass.
5:35
SPEAKER_02: Beyond that, not much else.
5:37
SPEAKER_02: Uh he went 11 for 27, 193 yards.
5:41
SPEAKER_02: I think 80 of that was on the first pass.
5:44
SPEAKER_02: So uh one touchdown, two interceptions.
5:47
SPEAKER_02: Uh Ferguson for his uh had 119 yards rushing.
5:52
SPEAKER_02: Um Jacurry Turner was out again for the game.
5:56
SPEAKER_02: Um defense took too many penalties against a pretty mediocre BC team.
6:01
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure even if they don't take the penalties, they might not still lose in a close game.
6:06
SPEAKER_02: And it was not a blowout, but it wasn't all that close either.
6:10
SPEAKER_02: Um they get turnovers, the defense still gets turnovers, but when the offense can't do anything with it, what does it matter?
6:17
SPEAKER_02: So um they just need they they need somebody to step up on offense and make it their their team, and that's just they don't seem to have anybody right now.
6:28
SPEAKER_02: And until that happens, they're probably not gonna win very many games.
6:34
SPEAKER_00: Totally agree.
6:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh it's funny.
6:36
SPEAKER_00: Last week on the show, we said I said I wanted them to try the freshman at quarterback.
6:40
SPEAKER_00: You said you wanted them to lean into the running game.
6:43
SPEAKER_00: They did both of those things, and it still didn't work.
6:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh and and you know, like you said, it it the the defense, the pass defense is so bad.
6:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh the the the penalties, the the like giving up big plays.
6:59
SPEAKER_00: It seems like their strategy on defense, Steve, is we know we can't cover anybody, so just like super aggressively blitz and hope that you get the quarterback, but if you don't, oh well, that's gonna be a 25-yard game.
7:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh and that just seems to be their they're like they've accepted that.
7:16
SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, Boston College kept trying to hand us that game.
7:20
SPEAKER_00: The the kid threw that interception in the red zone at the very end of the game.
7:23
SPEAKER_00: It's like, no, thanks, we don't want to win.
7:26
SPEAKER_00: And that was such a huge play, and I don't think anyone was excited about it because then it meant that the freshman had to drive us all the way down the field, and you just knew he wasn't gonna do it.
7:37
SPEAKER_00: So, like you said, what's the point at that point?
7:41
SPEAKER_00: Um I I just I just think that again, I said it last week, I'll say it again.
7:46
SPEAKER_00: That that team, that offense was Mason.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: It had to have Mason.
7:50
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have Mason, it's not going anywhere.
7:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's on the the that's on the offensive coordinator, then.
7:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry, you have to be able to adjust.
8:01
SPEAKER_02: You have to be able to adjust.
8:02
SPEAKER_00: I mean so so the year that the Stewarters lost Ben Wathisberger and played Duck Hodges, that was on the coaches.
8:08
SPEAKER_02: They still almost made the playoffs.
8:11
SPEAKER_02: I think they went eight.
8:12
SPEAKER_02: Did they go eight and eight?
8:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I'm saying, was it on the coaches that the offense didn't get moving?
8:17
SPEAKER_00: I mean, like you if you don't understand quarterback.
8:20
SPEAKER_02: No, but I mean they still adjusted, they ran levy on Bell till the wheels fell off.
8:25
SPEAKER_00: Well, fair.
8:26
SPEAKER_00: I mean it it is partial.
8:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying it's not on the coaches at all.
8:31
SPEAKER_02: It just seems like this offense just can't like do like the grind it, lean forward kind of run game.
8:38
SPEAKER_00: But I mean they still scored 21 points, but I I just think against you you you just played against two NFL head coaches.
8:47
SPEAKER_00: I I think that they're that they're going to scheme against I think the way that they both scheme that game was Bill O'Brien and Bill Bolichek was, you know, go ahead, I dare you.
9:00
SPEAKER_00: Let the quarterback beat us.
9:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
9:02
SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
9:02
SPEAKER_02: Just you know Well, they're gonna see more of that this week.
9:05
SPEAKER_02: And do you know who they're playing?
9:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the number one team in the nation.
9:09
SPEAKER_02: Do you know what Pitt's record is against the number one team in the nation?
9:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh and something, I know that.
9:14
SPEAKER_02: Oh seventeen and one.
9:17
SPEAKER_02: If I believe if if I'm it's either O seventeen and one or oh eighteen and one.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: What was the tie, do you know?
9:23
SPEAKER_02: Army 1945.
9:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, that 1945 Army team.
9:28
SPEAKER_02: That was a great game.
9:29
SPEAKER_02: That was like my father wasn't even alive from that.
9:34
SPEAKER_02: So Pitt has never beaten a number one team.
9:37
SPEAKER_02: If this team pulls this rabbit out of the hat, I'll eat my hat.
9:41
SPEAKER_02: So this should be an easy win for Miami.
9:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, by the way, Pitt has won twice in Miami since the Johnson administration.
9:49
SPEAKER_02: And that could be Lyndon Baines or Andrew.
9:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's there's no way they win that game.
9:56
SPEAKER_00: And I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they somehow did because Pitt.
10:01
SPEAKER_02: That would be that would Tim.
10:03
SPEAKER_02: I that I outside of 13-9, I I don't know, like that would be the biggest upset in Pitt history.
10:11
SPEAKER_02: Uh maybe.
10:12
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't know how good Miami is.
10:15
SPEAKER_02: Miami's really good.
10:17
SPEAKER_00: I I guess I haven't watched them enough, you know, and uh their quarterback's supposed to be amazing.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: So I I I guess I'd have to, yeah.
10:24
SPEAKER_00: I I you know, and they're Steve, they are number one because like seven of the or six of the top seven teams lost last week.
10:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
10:32
SPEAKER_00: So that that's another factor.
10:34
SPEAKER_00: And they almost lost to Florida State.
10:36
SPEAKER_00: They they had Florida State took them to overtime.
10:39
SPEAKER_00: So I I just don't know that they're as dominant as like the 2007 West Virginia team, but maybe they are.
10:46
SPEAKER_02: Well, the season is fading away fast.
10:49
SPEAKER_02: Um we need we were desperately need a quarterback.
10:51
SPEAKER_02: Hey, if this freshman pulls it off, he'll be a legend.
10:54
SPEAKER_02: He'll be like Pat Bostick.
10:55
SPEAKER_02: He will never have to buy a meal in Pittsburgh ever again.
11:00
SPEAKER_00: Could you imagine Pat and Arduzi's postgame interview if they somehow won this?
11:03
SPEAKER_02: You'll be like, it happened in what is it, West Virginia.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: It happened in Pittsburgh.
11:09
SPEAKER_02: He will be he'll be uh he'll be uh what is it uh incorrigible or he just you won't be able to be in the same room as him.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
11:19
SPEAKER_02: And we'll love him for it, Tim.
11:21
SPEAKER_02: I'll love every he can be the if you beat Niami with your backup quarterback when they're the number one ranked team, you can be the biggest blowhard and not tell me who's starting whenever you want, buddy.
11:32
SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
11:33
SPEAKER_02: The job is the job is yours for life.
11:36
SPEAKER_02: That's that's if it isn't already, if it isn't already yours for life, it really is at that point.
11:42
SPEAKER_02: You're you're you're that put that would put him up with like Mikkeloson, um, Dr.
11:47
SPEAKER_02: Sutherland, Pop Warner, like honestly, that would put him up with the greatest, like Johnny Majors, you know, all those great coaches.
11:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if he if he isn't quite there yet, that would put him over the top.
12:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but well, don't worry, it's not gonna happen.
12:05
SPEAKER_02: Um, so on to the Steelers, and uh I named this uh after how to succeed in business without really trying, how to succeed in Tampa without really trying, because for three quarters of this game, boy, this was really ugly.
12:21
SPEAKER_02: I mean, what was it 16 to 3 in the fourth quarter, wasn't it?
12:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was that was going into the fourth quarter.
12:29
SPEAKER_00: All I could think is this is one of the worst games I've seen in years.
12:35
SPEAKER_02: Losing to Jalen Dan Daniels, right?
12:40
SPEAKER_02: Not Jaden Daniels.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
12:43
SPEAKER_02: Um, somehow the Steelers win 26 to 19 in overtime.
12:48
SPEAKER_02: Um, uh were you and I the only people from Pittsburgh that didn't go to Tampa to watch this game?
12:53
SPEAKER_02: Seems like it.
12:55
SPEAKER_02: I mean that was Akashure Stadium South.
12:59
SPEAKER_02: It really was.
13:00
SPEAKER_02: I will say this.
13:01
SPEAKER_02: I think there's a lot of transplanted.
13:03
SPEAKER_02: I went to Tampa three years ago and I loved it.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: I love Tampa.
13:07
SPEAKER_02: And I went to um I went to a Tampa Bay Rays game, speaking of teams in the World Series, and um that there were so many Pirates fans, pirates fans, Tim.
13:18
SPEAKER_02: Pirates fans at a Tampa Bay Ray game, like not Steelers, not you know, anything pirates fans.
13:25
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I mean I would say there were like 50-50 pirates Rays fans.
13:31
SPEAKER_02: So I think there's just a lot of people from Pittsburgh that live in Tampa, Clearwater, St.
13:35
SPEAKER_02: Pete, blah, blah, blah.
13:36
SPEAKER_00: It was still it was still a good turnout.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: Pretty cool to see.
13:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so um, luckily, you know, they were playing Jalen Daniels, not Jaden Daniels.
13:45
SPEAKER_02: And um, DK Metcalf, what happened to him in the fourth quarter?
13:48
SPEAKER_02: He just like is it they just start using him differently?
13:51
SPEAKER_02: He just like he caught that one big third and twelve over the middle for a first down, and that seemed to get him going.
13:58
SPEAKER_02: Like, do they need to do that more?
14:00
SPEAKER_02: Maybe run him over the middle more?
14:02
SPEAKER_02: I because I don't think like Tampa Bay's defense is that bad, or maybe Todd Bowles isn't that good.
14:08
SPEAKER_02: I I I don't know.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: He's I don't think he's a good coach, but he is a good defensive.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: Like we had we just did that episode about the coaching three, and you said about Aristotle knowing we did that.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: I think I think Todd Bowles is a really good defensive coordinator and not a good head coach.
14:22
SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, he had I mean he had them stifled for three quarters on offense.
14:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:27
SPEAKER_00: But they figured it out, and yeah, Metcalf looked good, Bernard looked good, Rogers looked good.
14:32
SPEAKER_00: It just everything started clicking, I guess.
14:35
SPEAKER_02: Rogers threw the ball 49 times again, did throw for two touchdowns in that one interception.
14:40
SPEAKER_02: Uh Jalen Warren had 50 yards rushing, Metcalf had 93 reception three yards receiving.
14:47
SPEAKER_02: Um Jalen Daniels kind of fell apart in the in the fourth quarter, I thought.
14:53
SPEAKER_02: But he's like he went 22 of 43, which 43 passes, I think that's way too much.
14:59
SPEAKER_02: Why didn't they run Bucky Irving more?
15:01
SPEAKER_02: Especially when you have like a two touchdown lead, like run the ball.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: That just seems odd.
15:07
SPEAKER_02: And he threw two interceptions.
15:09
SPEAKER_02: Um he kind of that he has to be like Jacoby Brissett, like that kind of quarterback or like Tyrone Taylor, like Gino, you know, like what one of those quarterbacks who just kind of floats around and starts here and there, and it's okay, but you're not gonna win a championship with him.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: Um Rodgers, I mean, he made Rogers made a play that's like I I mean there aren't a lot of quarterbacks can make it.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: He like escaped the sack and he threw a perfect pass on the run to um uh what's his name?
15:40
SPEAKER_02: Warren, the uh running back, and it went for a first down.
15:43
SPEAKER_02: It was on a third down, they had to have it.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: And and I I was just that was vintage Aaron Rodgers.
15:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's maybe him and Patrick Mahomes, maybe Josh Allen make that throw.
15:52
SPEAKER_02: There aren't a lot of quarterbacks in the league that could do that play.
15:57
SPEAKER_02: Um, I will say this, um the interception and then the ball at the one.
16:02
SPEAKER_02: Um, I loved now a lot of people are criticising Mike McCarthy, and I think some of it is warranted, but that first down play, that play action fake, that was the one of the smartest calls.
16:16
SPEAKER_02: Because it didn't matter.
16:17
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna you really wanted to score a touchdown, and if you scored it on first down, it's not the end of the world.
16:23
SPEAKER_02: But you want to score a touchdown so it's easier to play defense.
16:26
SPEAKER_02: But when I don't know, did Dornell Washington drop that or just it was a close play?
16:31
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't a it it the pass kind of missed, it just didn't work.
16:35
SPEAKER_00: I agree with you.
16:35
SPEAKER_00: I said the same thing.
16:36
SPEAKER_00: I I actually like that call.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because Bill Parcell's always said if you're gonna run a play action at the goal line, always do it on first down because the defense sells out.
16:45
SPEAKER_02: And it nine times out of ten, it works.
16:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it really does.
16:49
SPEAKER_02: It just maybe the execution wasn't quite right, but then you have to run the ball.
16:54
SPEAKER_02: The next two downs, you have to run the ball.
16:56
SPEAKER_02: And throwing the ball one more time didn't get I don't care.
17:00
SPEAKER_02: You run the ball two more times because that gets rid of Tampa's timeouts, and that makes it playing defense.
17:06
SPEAKER_02: Like if you get a sack on defense after that, you're running the clock, like the clock is moving.
17:12
SPEAKER_02: So I I thought that was that was the only problem I had with that.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: I mean, what say you?
17:18
SPEAKER_02: Are you gonna be like the people criticizing McCarthy or just what do you think?
17:22
SPEAKER_00: No, I I agree.
17:23
SPEAKER_00: I like the play action pass.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: I agree with you.
17:26
SPEAKER_00: They could have I I would I would have liked if you're gonna pass on first down, then run the other two downs.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: I agree.
17:32
SPEAKER_00: Um at the end of the day, it's like this whole thing, we're we're so we we can we you know, everything's about the coaching for Steeler fans.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: Everything comes and that's social media's ruined a lot of that, because I don't think every Steeler fan thinks like that, but every Steeler fan on social media apparently does.
17:51
SPEAKER_00: Everything's a coaching thing.
17:53
SPEAKER_00: So you either made the right call or the wrong call.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: And basically the the way our interpretation is if it worked, it was the right call.
17:59
SPEAKER_00: If it didn't work, it was the wrong call.
18:00
SPEAKER_00: So if they play action and and there's a guy wide open in the end zone, then McCarthy looks like a genius, right?
18:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:07
SPEAKER_00: What a genius call.
18:08
SPEAKER_00: If Tampa totally fold, you know, game-winning touchdown, game over, because I don't think Daniels was going to go all the way down the field and score a touchdown, right?
18:17
SPEAKER_00: Just like in overtime.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: But then it didn't work, so then it's like, oh, what are you doing?
18:21
SPEAKER_00: Run the ball.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: Now, Steve, if they run the ball and get stuffed three times in a row, guess what everybody says then?
18:26
SPEAKER_02: Why do you throw the ball yet?
18:28
SPEAKER_02: Right.
18:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:28
SPEAKER_00: So I I that stuff.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: I just it that that was annoying with Tomlin.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: I I thought that with a new coach, people would have a little bit more grace, but we don't.
18:38
SPEAKER_00: We've always been like that.
18:39
SPEAKER_00: Cow or Knoll.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: It's always the coach's fault.
18:41
SPEAKER_00: Everything's the coach's fault.
18:43
SPEAKER_00: Players executing mean nothing.
18:45
SPEAKER_02: Well, what about remember?
18:47
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think this was on the game tying field goal.
18:50
SPEAKER_02: They were at like the 28, and Aaron Rodgers took that sack back.
18:54
SPEAKER_02: That was a 40 play.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: I don't know why McCarthy called a sack there.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: That was a terrible play call.
19:00
SPEAKER_00: I'll say that.
19:00
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he should have called he should have called a touchdown.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: I thought Aaron Rodgers really like a veteran quarterback has to know better than that.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: That was that was real bad.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: That was real bad.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: And then poor Bobs had to kick a 58-yard field goal twice.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: Twice.
19:20
SPEAKER_02: I I I was like, this is and he had and it was like windy and he had already had problematic.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: I was like, wow, way to really like stick it to the kicker there.
19:29
SPEAKER_02: And I think Rogers kind of knew that.
19:31
SPEAKER_02: It looked like it was on the sideline, like, uh-oh.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: Like he was definitely concerned, you know.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was that was bad, but yeah, Boz bailed us out.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: Man, it's it's amazing.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: I just can't believe we're at a point in the NFL where a guy kicked two 58-yard field goals in a row, just like as if they were 20-yard field goals.
19:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and they made the net.
19:53
SPEAKER_02: I think they made the net halfway up.
19:56
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
19:57
SPEAKER_02: I remember when like a 50-yard, remember 50-yard field goals used to barely sneak over?
20:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: We we um we there's a video we posted on our Facebook page a little while ago.
20:09
SPEAKER_00: It was the first game, it was the it was the last time that um Tom Landry and Chuck Noel faced each other.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: It was it was uh Cowboys at Three River Stadium in like 1988.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: It was the first game of the season that year.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: And the Cowboys had a chance to kick a game-winning field goal, and I think it was 49 yards or something, and it was like, oh, he's not gonna miss it.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: Like, I think the announcers are even saying, like, yeah, this is well, I guess you gotta try it, but there's no way he's probably gonna make it.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: And then he did he didn't even come close.
20:35
SPEAKER_00: And that's the way field goals used to be.
20:37
SPEAKER_00: It's like if you weren't closer than that, it was like, well, I guess you could try it, but I mean it's like playing the lottery.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: Now it's like Rogers gets sacked and like, Boz, go kick it anyway.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: 58 yards.
20:51
SPEAKER_00: Oh, oops.
20:52
SPEAKER_00: Sorry about that.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: We forgot that there was a two-minute warning.
20:55
SPEAKER_00: I guess we shouldn't have lined up and tried to kick it.
20:57
SPEAKER_00: Oh, can you do it again after the two-minute warning is over?
21:02
SPEAKER_02: Uh and did you see Boz like cuss somebody out after that field goal?
21:06
SPEAKER_02: Or I don't know if that was a one of them, like he said something to one of the day.
21:10
SPEAKER_02: I was like, you go, buddy.
21:11
SPEAKER_02: You you kind of earned that one.
21:12
SPEAKER_00: He did.
21:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, and it and what happens?
21:16
SPEAKER_02: I I've had this.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, the Steelers drive took like six minutes and forty seconds off the clock in overtime.
21:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
21:22
SPEAKER_02: It was a 14 play.
21:23
SPEAKER_02: What happens if somebody takes like on the first drive?
21:25
SPEAKER_02: Like it's the game ends.
21:28
SPEAKER_02: Like with 10, like they kick the field goal with like three seconds to the time.
21:33
SPEAKER_02: I mean so like, well, doesn't the other team get the ball?
21:37
SPEAKER_02: Not what happens what happens to the what happens to all the the other team gets the ball people?
21:43
SPEAKER_00: I I that would be very difficult.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean a ten minute drive.
21:48
SPEAKER_02: I don't I mean they aren't that common, but it happens.
21:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean I guess I guess conceivably it's possible.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: Um that's maybe why you you if you win the toss, maybe well see.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: I would still kick off though because you you're in such a big thing.
22:03
SPEAKER_02: You always want to know what you can.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: Because if you're the Steelers, you know, if you didn't get that touchdown, it's like, do you kick a field goal?
22:11
SPEAKER_00: Do you like if it's if it's th I think they scored that touchdown on second down?
22:14
SPEAKER_00: If it's third down, do you aggressively go for the touchdown or do you kind of like play it safe and kick the field goal?
22:20
SPEAKER_00: Well, you would know what you needed if you the other team went first.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah.
22:27
SPEAKER_02: The you know, the Steelers, you know, finally get a sack to end the game.
22:31
SPEAKER_02: And um the Steelers had five sacks in the game.
22:34
SPEAKER_02: I didn't realize that.
22:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:35
SPEAKER_02: Um they had I remember the last couple years in Tomlin.
22:39
SPEAKER_02: Remember they would always get like sacks on first down, and I don't mean to be like rude, but like sacks on first down are the most meaningless sacks you could ever have.
22:48
SPEAKER_02: Because like it's always like, oh, it's second and 15, and then Tomlin's defense would give up eight yards, and then it's oh it's third and seven, and then they would give up first down.
22:58
SPEAKER_02: It's like, yeah, that was really great.
23:01
SPEAKER_02: It's like the really like making a play on third and fourth down, especially a sack or a tackle for a loss, is like huge on defense, especially like the fact that you can't play past defense anymore.
23:14
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yeah, I think that's what if you think back to like those um 90s teams of like Kevin Green and Greg Lloyd, yeah.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: That's what I remember, and maybe I have no stats to back this up, but I seem to remember that you know they would they they made a lot of sacks, and it seemed like it was more on those kinds of third-down plays than it was on first down plays.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, so the defense did do a good job shutting down the running game.
23:40
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, all right.
23:42
SPEAKER_02: Well, if they beat a Tampa team with a pretty average to mediocre backup at best, um, they did just enough to win.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: Um, did they play down to their opponent?
23:53
SPEAKER_02: Maybe a little bit.
23:54
SPEAKER_02: I don't I can't figure the NFC South out.
23:57
SPEAKER_02: These teams aren't like bad, but they aren't necessarily good either.
24:01
SPEAKER_00: I mean I I can't figure the NFL out, Steve.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's like there's like three or four maybe elite teams, and then everybody else is just kind of like eh, not sure yet.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: I it's it's early in the season, too.
24:13
SPEAKER_00: And then there's like I always think back to that Tonkyokin like everything about every four weeks the whole landscape of the league switches over, so who knows?
24:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, look, Philadelphia, yeah.
24:24
SPEAKER_02: We'll talk about Philadelphia maybe a little later, but uh everybody is in the division is four and two except for the Bengals because they couldn't um their defense couldn't stop the bye week.
24:34
SPEAKER_02: So so they're still three and two, but everybody else is four and two, which is insane.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:42
unknown: Yep.
24:43
SPEAKER_02: Um uh it's on the gay Paris.
24:46
SPEAKER_02: Is Paris burning, Tim?
24:49
SPEAKER_02: Apparently.
24:49
SPEAKER_02: I hope not.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: Um, another team, the Saints, uh, they're better than their record, probably.
24:56
SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: I guess we'll find out in Paris if they actually play this game and the stadium doesn't get burned down.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: It's not stopping a lot of Steelware fans from going over there.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: I've I've seen a lot of coverage on that this week.
25:08
SPEAKER_02: Really?
25:09
SPEAKER_00: There's gonna be a lot of Pittsburgh people flying over.
25:12
SPEAKER_02: Maybe you can join in the rioting.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, yeah, and I and I would imagine that that game would have huge, you know, because that's a great, like before the rioting, that's a great excuse to just take a trip to Paris.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: Paris, whether you're a Saints fan or a Steelers fan.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: I I did you hear, Steve, that they, you know, that that they had some trouble trying to sell tickets to the locals over there.
25:36
SPEAKER_02: No, really.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: I guess they tried to, you know, they they obviously they put tickets on sale there.
25:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, but it there wasn't a huge interest.
25:46
SPEAKER_00: There's I actually have um audio of that.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: Can I share that?
25:49
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
25:50
SPEAKER_00: Hello! Open for business?
25:53
SPEAKER_00: Who are you to resist it, huh?
25:56
SPEAKER_00: Come on, my last pet above.
26:00
SPEAKER_00: My children need a wine.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: So there you go.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: A lot of lack of interest from the from the French fans.
26:13
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's not Paris Saint Germain or Mimbapi or whatever his name is.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:19
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know.
26:23
SPEAKER_02: The Steelers probably win this just because the Saints aren't that great.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: But I don't know.
26:29
SPEAKER_02: Our our secondary is kind of a mess, and Tyler Shuck is better than Jalen Daniels.
26:34
SPEAKER_02: So Yeah.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I I I would say this is you talked about sacks.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: Their offensive line is hot garbage.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: So this is a good opportunity for them to to do exactly what you said.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: Get some like sacks that mean something.
26:51
SPEAKER_00: That's a good way to stop Tyler Shuck from and Chris Alave from exploiting your secondary that's still banged up.
26:59
SPEAKER_02: Oh Lave.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: I stole it from Chris Furman.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: Is is Elliot gonna be back?
27:04
SPEAKER_00: I I know they open up like the practice window for him.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: I I I don't I don't know what his timetable is, and then uh I saw Eccles got hurt last everybody McCarthy got hurt last week.
27:15
SPEAKER_02: Everybody is he on the injury report, Tim?
27:19
SPEAKER_02: Is he questionable for next week?
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Did you see that?
27:21
SPEAKER_00: He like had Yeah, I know.
27:22
SPEAKER_02: He was like, he's like, oh somebody stepped on my ankle, I'm fine.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:25
SPEAKER_02: Maybe he'll have a blood clot, too.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: I hear flying the roof doesn't help that
27:34
SPEAKER_02: Um hey, can can I can I make a suggestion?
27:37
SPEAKER_02: Uh you you like my suggestion.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: I I feel like I've made this one before.
27:41
SPEAKER_02: Can the NFL overtime just be 10 minutes and it's tied, no sudden death, no nothing?
27:48
SPEAKER_02: Whatever the answer, whatever the you know, like figure that's Steeler game, right?
27:54
SPEAKER_02: It ends, they get the sack on fourth down.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: So what?
27:57
SPEAKER_02: Aaron Rodgers comes out and takes two knees and the game's over, right?
28:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean, big deal.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I just I just like what does that solve in your mind?
28:07
SPEAKER_02: All the oh, next team score wins, this team scores now, blah, blah, blah.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: Like, just get rid of all that silliness.
28:14
SPEAKER_02: Play football for another 10 minutes, and if you can't get it sorted out by if you're still tied, it's a tie.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean that I I uh I I would not be opposed, nobody likes this idea, but I would not be opposed to the college overtime.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't do it the same way.
28:29
SPEAKER_02: Well, I would what I would do now in the playoffs, because you always have to winner, playoffs, um, yeah, you would play two 10-minute overtimes or or two 15-minute overtimes, and if it's still tied, you know, just regular overtimes, regular football, and whoever is winning at the end of those two, it wins, or if it's still tied, you go to the college style, you know, whatever playoff that is.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: What what I don't know what they call it, scrimmage, whatever.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: And now if you gotta start the ball at the 50, fine, but you know, at least at least there would be like another 30 minutes for somebody to win or lose or whatnot.
29:10
SPEAKER_02: And it just wouldn't be like, oh, we flipped the coin, you lost, you know.
29:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and uh I don't know.
29:16
SPEAKER_00: I I guess I like the current format better than the old format because that that was what you just said was the was the role.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: It's like you flip a coin, and if you lose that coin toss, you pretty much lose the game.
29:28
SPEAKER_00: And that was kind of silly.
29:29
SPEAKER_02: Well, I just I just like play 10 minutes in the regular season and it's over, just like hockey, and whoever's winning, or well no hockey sudden death.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: It's more like soccer, like you know, it yeah you can score both teams could score touchdowns and field goals and safeties and whatever, but you just play the full 10 minutes and then at the end of 10 minutes if somebody's ahead, they win.
29:51
SPEAKER_02: And if you're gonna go.
29:52
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't be opposed to that.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:54
SPEAKER_02: And it's only 10 minutes, so I mean but I think for the playoffs, I would make it 15 minutes and I would have two of them and then go to the college overtime to wrap things up.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: But whatever.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: Um, what is happening with QBs in the NFL right now, Tim?
30:12
SPEAKER_02: Um, why aren't there any good ones?
30:14
SPEAKER_02: Why do the good ones keep getting hurt?
30:16
SPEAKER_02: Like Jalen Hurts has a blood clot in his leg, apparently, that's spread to his it's bilateral uh in his lungs, pulmonary embolism, which is like you know, people die from that.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Well, fortunately the the Eagles handled it really well.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean then he like flew back from London.
30:37
SPEAKER_02: And they're they're like it's funny how like some teams get like special treatment and some teams don't.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: And the Eagles, I've always said it's like the Eagles, the what's his name?
30:47
SPEAKER_02: The Ravens, the Dolphins, and like the Cowboys always seem to get like special treatment.
30:54
SPEAKER_02: If the Steelers pulled a stunt like that, oh my gosh, you'd never hear the end of it.
30:57
SPEAKER_02: If the Raiders pulled a stunt like that, you would never hear the end of it.
31:01
SPEAKER_02: So and Michael Robinson, the commentator who I was criticizing, he like stuck totally stuck his foot in the mouth.
31:07
SPEAKER_02: He's like, Well, I think Jalen Hurts, I'm not saying, but he he might be faking.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: You can't fake a blood clot, dude.
31:14
SPEAKER_02: Like they can look that at that on ultrasound.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, that he got he caught a lot of flack from that.
31:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because like a back injury, like he thought he was like a Joey Porter.
31:23
SPEAKER_02: Like a back injury is very like it's hard to prove or disprove.
31:26
SPEAKER_02: Like a blood clot is like, oh, there it is.
31:28
SPEAKER_02: There it is on the ultrasound.
31:30
SPEAKER_02: You either have it or you don't.
31:31
SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, and and that's unfortunate for him.
31:36
SPEAKER_00: Hopefully he'll be okay.
31:38
SPEAKER_00: It's you know, in terms of like the Eagle season, it's not like, and I know this because I drafted Kalen Hurts in the fifth round of our fantasy league and regretted it every week after that.
31:49
SPEAKER_00: He was not having a good season to begin with.
31:52
SPEAKER_00: And so, Steve, going back to your thing about the quarterbacks, I I was dig I was thinking about this a lot this week about like the state of the quarterback in the NFL.
32:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, you still got Matt Stafford.
32:03
SPEAKER_02: Is he doing he's I guess he isn't doing that great.
32:06
SPEAKER_02: He's old as dirt.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: They're two and four.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: So and who else?
32:10
SPEAKER_02: JJ McCarthy.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you got him in the Well, so so so so here.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: So there was like a 10-year stretch.
32:16
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: I I I I went back and I looked at this.
32:19
SPEAKER_00: 2014 to 2023, those ten years.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: Where you had the previous generation was starting to age out.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: You know, Drew Brees, Ben, Peyton Manning, all those guys, even like Rogers and Stafford who are still playing, but those guys were getting older.
32:34
SPEAKER_00: And a lot of the whole high pro profile first round picks during those 10 years were busts.
32:40
SPEAKER_00: If you think about all the guys in the first round taken, you had Mitch Kurbisky, Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Josh Rosen, uh Tua.
32:49
SPEAKER_02: I wondered if you're gonna whatever happened to Josh Rosen?
32:52
SPEAKER_02: He just like, what a total bust.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: He was a first-round pick.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: They traded him after one season, I think, to Miami.
32:59
SPEAKER_02: I think he had a really bad attitude or something.
33:01
SPEAKER_02: Like he just I've never seen a first rounder flame out.
33:04
SPEAKER_02: Like even Kenny Pickett didn't flame out that bad.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he he's probably the the the butt I mean all these other guys too.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: Zach Wilson, remember Zach Wilson for the Jets?
33:13
SPEAKER_00: Trey Lance, who the 49ers traded up for.
33:16
SPEAKER_02: Yes, Trey Lance.
33:18
SPEAKER_02: But see, Trey Lance wasn't surprising because he was a like a lower FCS.
33:22
SPEAKER_00: He like played for a lot of experience, but still he was a he was like the number three overall pick.
33:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which was that that was a probably a stretch because like you could have got him probably in the second or third round.
33:33
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's probably where he should have went.
33:36
SPEAKER_00: Uh Mac Jones, uh Justin Fields, Kenny, you mentioned Kenny.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: So so there was this huge void at the QB position because all those, like I said, all those older guys were kind of like heading towards retirement, and nobody was coming in to fill the void.
33:53
SPEAKER_00: And so in those 10 years, Brady and Mahomes won seven of those ten Super Bowls because of that void.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: Now what about the Sean Watson, Tim?
34:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: What about the Sean Watson?
34:07
SPEAKER_00: So so after that came this stretch of the next few years where it looked like we reversed that trend.
34:14
SPEAKER_00: We had all these young QBs who looked like they were gonna pick up the mantle, and now we're gonna have this new great era of QBs.
34:21
SPEAKER_00: So you had the aforementioned Jalen Hurts, CJ Stroud, Justin Herbert, Drake May, Jaden Daniels, Kyler Murray, Bo Nicks.
34:29
SPEAKER_00: So you had all guys like that.
34:31
SPEAKER_00: And you even had like some of these guys like Warbusts that seem like they revived their careers, like Baker or Sam Darnold or Danny Dimes.
34:40
SPEAKER_00: And so then you had the stretch where you know you had other people winning Super Bowls besides Mahomes and Brady.
34:47
SPEAKER_00: But now all those guys I just mentioned, you know, Hertz, Stroud, Herbert, Daniels, you know, Bo Nicks, it seems like they're starting to Bo Nicks was never that that was all SCC hype.
34:59
SPEAKER_02: That he was never that great.
35:01
SPEAKER_00: But but I'm just saying, it it seemed like that those guys were gonna pick up the mantle.
35:06
SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, finally we have some quarterbacks that aren't busts, but it it seems like now they've kind of flamed out, and what you're left with now is a very, very small group of elite quarterbacks.
35:20
SPEAKER_00: I think Josh Allen is in that mix.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: I think Brock Purdy is in that mix, but I think you're just gonna have Kansas City win another Super Bowl or probably win the next four Super Bowls, and they're all gonna be against San Francisco again because nobody has a quarterback.
35:37
SPEAKER_00: And like Josh Allen, Josh Allen's elite, but he can't beat Kansas City, so you can just What about Joe Burrow?
35:44
SPEAKER_02: Like, how do you feel about like I don't know?
35:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Burrow and Lamar I would put up there too.
35:48
SPEAKER_02: Burrow isn't a bust, he just gets hurt so much.
35:51
SPEAKER_02: Like he's a when he's healthy, he's good.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I I'm not saying there's like there there weren't like of all those guys I mentioned, you know, I didn't put Burrow or Lamar or Josh Allen on the list because those guys are good and have continued to prove that they're good, but they uh they also have proven many times over that they can't.
36:10
SPEAKER_02: Well, only one of those guys has gotten to the Super Bowl and can the only guy that's can beat Kansas City is some reason Burrow, like in Cincinnati has had Kansas City's number.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: Well, they were one for one.
36:22
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they they won a championship game against them, but they lost a championship game against.
36:25
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's better than Allen, who just yeah, who just is like, oh, Kansas City, he just waves the white flag immediately.
36:31
SPEAKER_00: So so that's what I mean.
36:33
SPEAKER_00: I think it's I I really feel like the next four Super Bowls are just gonna be Kansas City versus San Francisco, and we just need to all accept that and forget the regular season.
36:42
SPEAKER_00: But it but there's a void.
36:43
SPEAKER_00: There's a void, and like who's gonna fill that?
36:45
SPEAKER_00: Is is Mendoza gonna fill that?
36:46
SPEAKER_00: Is Ty Simpson gonna fill that?
36:48
SPEAKER_00: Is Arch Manning gonna fill that?
36:50
SPEAKER_02: Like that guy's he might get benched at Texas too.
36:53
SPEAKER_00: If that guy's name, my brother said this.
36:55
SPEAKER_00: If that guy's name was Arch Jones or Arch Smith, he'd be a fourth round pick.
37:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:01
SPEAKER_02: See, you don't want Cooper's children, you want Peyton or Eli's children.
37:06
SPEAKER_00: But you you were talking earlier about Pitt.
37:08
SPEAKER_00: Like somebody has to come along and like rescue the offense.
37:11
SPEAKER_00: Somebody needs to come along and just rescue the quarterback position, or it's gonna go right back to Mahomes.
37:16
SPEAKER_02: Well, especially like Mahomes does like Jackson doesn't do this as much as he used to, but like I see this all the time.
37:24
SPEAKER_02: Mahomes will be running and he'll put his head down to get a first down, and there's nothing you can do about it.
37:30
SPEAKER_02: Like, what's like if he's allowed to like just run like that and you're not allowed to hit him, like why am I watching this game?
37:39
SPEAKER_02: Like I I've turned games off because of that.
37:42
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's like, oh, they're just gonna let him run, and if you touch him, it's gonna be a personal foul.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm done.
37:48
SPEAKER_02: There was literally a personal foul in the Cardinals Rams game, which the Cardinals have won twice in LA.
37:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which is where they didn't even touch the guy.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, no, the the receiver literally jumped into the defender, like the defender's standing there.
38:03
SPEAKER_02: So what he's not allowed to stand there?
38:05
SPEAKER_02: Like he didn't like, and then there was one they missed on Patrick Queen, who's who like ran by and did the perfect like run by and stick your elbow out and hit a receiver.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: Like they could have called that on the Steelers, but they didn't.
38:19
SPEAKER_02: But it's just uh whatever.
38:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but but that's annoying.
38:24
SPEAKER_00: I I'm with you 100%.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: Kansas City gets all that garbage.
38:28
SPEAKER_00: And Mahomes is really good.
38:30
SPEAKER_02: And he's he is good, he is good, but I'm sorry, he needs to get the Cam Newton Ben Rothesberger treatment when he runs.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: When you run, you're a running back and you get lit up.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: And oh well, if the league doesn't like it, that's too freaking bad.
38:44
SPEAKER_02: Stop running like that.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: At the end of the day, if you wanna if you want to beat those guys in playoff games or Super Bowls, you really have to have a quarterback.
38:55
SPEAKER_00: And that's why I feel I'm I'm nervous.
38:57
SPEAKER_00: I thought we had solved that problem, and now it feels like all these guys that you thought, all these young guys, you're like, oh, these guys, these young guys, what a great draft pick or what a great um young talent he is.
39:09
SPEAKER_00: Like a lot of these guys aren't as good as they seem like they were two years ago or three years ago.
39:13
SPEAKER_00: That's all I'm saying.
39:14
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think Tyler Shuck, uh Pat Mahomes Super Bowl is coming up sooner than you think, and Tyler Shuck is gonna him or Jackson, maybe him or Jackson Dart if that guy can get stay healthy for more than five minutes.
39:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and those are guys that you know, and and even like you were joking about McCarthy, but like even guys like that, you know, they're not it's not like they're finished.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: Like there's been plenty of revival stories before, but I just I just I'm not seeing it right now.
39:40
SPEAKER_00: It it it it there's a there's a there's another void, and that's why I said I think I just it's gonna be a Kansas City San Francisco Super Bowl for the next four years.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: Well, like Nietzsche said, sometimes when you stare into the abyss, it stares back.
39:55
SPEAKER_02: So we are staring into the abyss right now, Tim.
39:59
SPEAKER_02: We are.
40:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:01
SPEAKER_02: All right.
40:02
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's enough of that philosophy.
40:05
SPEAKER_02: I hope it's not another bunch of Patrick Mahomes Super Bowl.
40:08
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I can stand the Taylor Swift.
40:10
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