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Fictional Women Around the World: Satine Kryze · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff
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Speaker 1: I've never told your production of I Heart Radio. Hello,
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Speaker 1: then Hello, you see what I did? No, I don't. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I knew you wouldn't. Perfect because that is a great
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Speaker 1: segment into what we're talking about today. Um, so we
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Speaker 1: are doing another sub segment of fictional women around the world.
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Speaker 1: And because we've had a lot of Star Wars content lately,
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Speaker 1: not that I really need any excuse, we and we
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Speaker 1: just got the trailer for the new Obi Wan Kenobi
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Speaker 1: show coming out. I have a few Star Wars women
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Speaker 1: I'd like to highlight in these segments ramping up to
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Speaker 1: that that I'm hoping will be like a primer if
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Speaker 1: you want to know more. And we're starting with Setene Curves,
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Speaker 1: who's best known from the Clone Wars television show. So
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Speaker 1: if you haven't watched that and you don't want to
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Speaker 1: be spoiled old, or if you want to go into
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Speaker 1: Obi Wan Caney show totally like fresh as and you
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Speaker 1: don't want to know anything, that's great. She might not
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Speaker 1: be mentioned at all, to be honest, but I think
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Speaker 1: she's important to his character. So if you don't want
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Speaker 1: any of this information, then come back later because it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. And I'm going to run through this
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Speaker 1: one because it's confusing, and Samantha, You're very very important
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Speaker 1: task is I want you to stop me if you
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Speaker 1: are confused or have questions, because I get my own
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Speaker 1: head and I think I assume people know what I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about, and they don't, which is very fair. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so preface with I have watched a few episodes of
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Speaker 1: Clone Wars, so I was more into the Bad Badge
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Speaker 1: and Rebels because in Clone Wars, uh, you have one
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Speaker 1: of the same characters. Insisting is mentioned correct but not
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Speaker 1: yet and Rebels Sertine is mentioned not just automatically, but no,
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Speaker 1: this is great, this is what I want, Samantha. Okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so she was in Clone Wars. She didn't show up
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Speaker 1: until a bit later in the show. I believe she
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Speaker 1: is mentioned um and she is actually like she's kind
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Speaker 1: of what's the word for that. A lot of things
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Speaker 1: that are happening in the Mandalorian and Buka Boba Fette
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Speaker 1: and in Rebels don't directly mention her, but are talking
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Speaker 1: about her like they're kind of she is a name
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Speaker 1: was actually mentioned in Rebels because of who is the
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Speaker 1: Mandalorian rebels the young girl Sabine Sabine Sabine mentioned because
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Speaker 1: they kind of compare the two of them. Correct, Yes,
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Speaker 1: I think, yes, Okay, I'm jumping ahead. I'm just making
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Speaker 1: sure i know where we are and in this moment
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Speaker 1: because I'm probably going to have a lot of questions.
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Speaker 1: Um typically I don't have questions until i've whatever, because
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Speaker 1: it doesn't click and to that point. But okay, here
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Speaker 1: we go. Yes, we are going to be talking about
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff you've mentioned, because, as I said,
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Speaker 1: she is throughout, even if they don't say her name directly,
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Speaker 1: she is a very big part of this. So yes,
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Speaker 1: Star Wars cannon is very, very complicated. It's made even
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Speaker 1: more complicated that they keep taking things from Legends, which
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Speaker 1: was what was cannon before Disney bought it, and making
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Speaker 1: a cannon. So I'm very confused, and I'm somebody who
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Speaker 1: lives in this world and now just be what cannon
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Speaker 1: is because I'm like, that's you can't alright, fine, I'm
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Speaker 1: too literal of a person to take this in. I
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Speaker 1: have a head cannon that is it's functioning like a
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Speaker 1: well oiled machine. Uh. I am going to try to simplify,
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Speaker 1: but we do need some context for this one, starting
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Speaker 1: with Mandelareans. So first of all, if you're curious, the
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Speaker 1: Dark Saber, which is kind of the black light Saber
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Speaker 1: you've seen if you've watched recent Star Wars media, including
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Speaker 1: the Mandalorian and Rebels and Clone Wars um and book,
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Speaker 1: was created by a Mandalorian Jedi named tar Visla, who
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Speaker 1: is yes related to Paz Visla, who is sort of
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Speaker 1: the big blue Mandalorian that's in the same covert as
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Speaker 1: the Mandalorian ding jarin Um anyway, and this Dark Saber
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Speaker 1: was later used to slaughter a lot of Jedi in
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Speaker 1: the Jedi Mandalorian War. Lightsabers are made with sentient Kaiber
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Speaker 1: crystals that kind of communicate with their owner Um. A
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Speaker 1: dark Side Forest user or a Sith bleeds their Kaiper crystal,
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Speaker 1: flooding it with pain, hate, anger so that it becomes red.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of very sad they make their Kuiper crystal hurt.
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Speaker 1: But all right, if you've watched the Mandalorian you know
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Speaker 1: that whoever wheels the Dark Sabor is the rightful ruler
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Speaker 1: of Mantalar, the Mandalorian homeworld that was raised and destroyed
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Speaker 1: by Imperial forces during the war, and the Dark Saber
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Speaker 1: must be one in legitimate combat. Okay, okay, wait, all right, yes,
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Speaker 1: go Why was it dart Saber created? The Dark Saber
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Speaker 1: was created because Tara Isla was both a Jedi and
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Speaker 1: a Mandalorian. So every Jedi to complete their quest to
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Speaker 1: become a Jedi, you have to go find a Khiber
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Speaker 1: crystal that calls to you and make that into a lightsaber.
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Speaker 1: The Dark Saber was different because he was a Mandalorian
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Speaker 1: slash Jedi, and also it became a weapon that was
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Speaker 1: passed down, so normally would not take a lightsaber that
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Speaker 1: wasn't yours. It's kind of similar to what Abbans and
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Speaker 1: Harry Potter with the Elder One, like, if you take
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Speaker 1: a lightsaber that you have not won the respect of
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Speaker 1: it's not yours, it's going to fight you a little
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Speaker 1: bit because it's supposed to be kind of a symbiotic relationship.
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Speaker 1: So when Luke was using like Anakins Darth Vader's in
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Speaker 1: Skywalker's Lightsaber, that lightsaber was never gonna be a good
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Speaker 1: fit for him completely because you would feel the echoes
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Speaker 1: of the person who did it before the Dark Saber
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Speaker 1: is different because it's past, it's meant to be passed down,
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Speaker 1: and so you do feel the echoes of people before.
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Speaker 1: And so if you've seen the most recent book Boba
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Speaker 1: Fett show when Dan Jarin is trying to fight with
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Speaker 1: it and it looks like it's heavy, that's because they
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Speaker 1: are not right now. He is fighting his destiny with
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Speaker 1: the Dark Sabers, so it is fighting him. He's fighting it.
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Speaker 1: They aren't working together. Okay, yes, because I need to
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Speaker 1: know the origin stories. I have to have origin stories.
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Speaker 1: Why is it bad because because he's a Mandalorian, Like,
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Speaker 1: why is it bad that he's a Mandalorian Because what
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Speaker 1: it sounds like, why is it so different from Mandalorian
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Speaker 1: to be a Jedi or a Jedi be a Mandalorian
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Speaker 1: Because the Mandalorians are typically a very violent race that
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Speaker 1: celebrate war and violence. That's why you have to win
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Speaker 1: it in combat um. And also the Jedi are very peaceful,
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Speaker 1: non violent. Yes, well they lost they lost their way
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Speaker 1: for sure, but like that's why it's sort of their
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Speaker 1: ideologies are very different, like their I their ideas about
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Speaker 1: how to go about the world are very different. So
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Speaker 1: it's hard to reconcile those things. You can, but it's hard. Um.
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Speaker 1: But it's not like that they're bad, it's just they're
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Speaker 1: not really compatible in a lot of ways. So with this,
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Speaker 1: why is this one saber supposed to be passed down?
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Speaker 1: That makes no sense? Well, and why is it supposed
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Speaker 1: to be that they're the ruler just because it's a
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Speaker 1: saber um? Because kind of because if you have pure
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Speaker 1: best car, which is what the Mandalorian has, and also
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Speaker 1: what I assumed our Visla has that is resistant too
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Speaker 1: light sabers can't infiltrate it. Also, it's resistance to the force,
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Speaker 1: so like you can't really feel the thoughts emotions of
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Speaker 1: people who are wearing full best car, which you could
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Speaker 1: if you you have the force. So tarvi Isla it
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Speaker 1: comes about, and he's got the forest, he's got the saber,
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Speaker 1: he's got full best guy. He's kind of like you
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Speaker 1: can't take him down, and he goes on this whole
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Speaker 1: quest and he's seen a sort of godlike and so
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Speaker 1: when it's taken from him, it's viewed as, oh, I'm
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Speaker 1: just as powerful as him. And then that's when it's
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Speaker 1: used in the this Jedi Mandalorian or where it was
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Speaker 1: used to kill a lot of Jedi, which means that,
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Speaker 1: like I said, if you do something like that with
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Speaker 1: the Kaiber crystal, it bleeds. So when someone picks up
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Speaker 1: the Dark Saber they use it, you're gonna feel like
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Speaker 1: that pain of what this saber has done. And that's
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Speaker 1: Normally you wouldn't have that, because again you're supposed to
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Speaker 1: make your own and it's going to be your thing
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Speaker 1: and you're not gonna have to do with like all
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Speaker 1: the other things. But it just became because again the
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Speaker 1: Mandalorians are uh, it's a creed that really puts on
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Speaker 1: a pedestal like Violet, some power in combat. And so
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Speaker 1: the Sabor became that of like this ultimate weapon. I'm
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Speaker 1: the most powerful I can wield this, and then that
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Speaker 1: means I can lead people. I should be the ruler
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Speaker 1: of this planet and this race. I'm caught up this point.
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Speaker 1: It would be a two parter. Okay, we haven't even
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Speaker 1: gotten there the character, ye know, And I'm like, it's complicated.
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Speaker 1: I did ask for it. I have questions, but has
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with this specifics, so I will hold
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Speaker 1: off on those questions. Okay, I'm so excited. I love
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Speaker 1: this so much. Okay, so yes. As of now, the
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Speaker 1: dark Sabor is in possession of the Mandalorian danishar and Um,
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Speaker 1: much to the regret of Bokaton curses the redheaded Mandalorian
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Speaker 1: played by Katie sack Off both in the animated series
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Speaker 1: and the live actually Mandalorian. And yes, who is the
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Speaker 1: sister of the person we're talking about today's Settine concerned
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Speaker 1: the Mandalorian. She does indeed all right. So this brings
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Speaker 1: us to Duchess Settine Curves of House Curves, who is
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Speaker 1: a human Mandalorian woman who believed that the only way
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Speaker 1: for Mandalori to survive was to move away from their
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Speaker 1: violent warrior history. She was born on an outer Rim planet,
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Speaker 1: but was brought to the planet Mandalora when she was
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Speaker 1: still young. Um she spoke her first words of Mandalore
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Speaker 1: and could remember a time before the planet had been
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Speaker 1: ravaged by wars. She was active in the decades before
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Speaker 1: the fall of the Galactic Republic a k A. When
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Speaker 1: Anakin became Darth Vader and Palpatine rose to powers, so
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Speaker 1: all that stuff leading up like prequel era, that's when
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Speaker 1: she was making her moves. She became the extremely controversial
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Speaker 1: leader of Mandalore during the Clone Wars and pushed for
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Speaker 1: the government to become pacifist in I said it several times,
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Speaker 1: but Mandalori's like a creed that's like all about violence
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Speaker 1: and power and war warriors. She came in, was like, no,
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Speaker 1: I think we've got to change to get a taste
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Speaker 1: of what she was all about. She once said, war
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Speaker 1: is intolerable. We have been deceived into thinking that we
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Speaker 1: must be part of it. I say, the moment we
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Speaker 1: committed to fighting, we already lost. So yeah, she became
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Speaker 1: the leader of Mandalora after the Mandalorian Civil War, which
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Speaker 1: is different than the Mandalorian Jedi War between reformist Mandalorians
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Speaker 1: and traditional warrior Mandalorians, and it just played out in
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Speaker 1: the rebels. Yeah, I saw. I kind of understand this
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Speaker 1: because it was kind of talked about in the rebels
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Speaker 1: when we have Subine fighting that other clan. Yes, so
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get that. But you know, I was very
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Speaker 1: happy about that, at least seemingly Asian. According to the animation,
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Speaker 1: we are going to get to that. But there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of wars in Mandalora's history, so these are kind
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Speaker 1: of separate, but there is a whole thing that does
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Speaker 1: happen in rebels. So there was massive loss of life
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Speaker 1: in this civil war, and Sebtene oversaw the reconstruction effort
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Speaker 1: with the end goal of a peaceful society um and
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Speaker 1: a part of the issue was the increase of weaponry
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Speaker 1: technology and the reciprocal damage it could cause. So it's
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Speaker 1: I guess the fallout was better. Yeah, when did Best
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Speaker 1: Scott come into play? Because this was not original part
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Speaker 1: of the original because I know the Mandalorian really didn't
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Speaker 1: come into play and it was only like a blip
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Speaker 1: in the originals that I've seen repeatedly with you. So
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Speaker 1: when did the Best Scott come into play? The Best
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Speaker 1: Car was one of those things they kind of introduced later,
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Speaker 1: but was they introduced it and like it's already it's
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Speaker 1: always been there. So Best Car the Imperial stole it.
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Speaker 1: That's why they ruined their planet is because they wanted
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Speaker 1: it because it's so powerful, and they used it for credits.
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Speaker 1: So the Imperial credits, like money was made of Best Car.
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Speaker 1: And that's why, like you, as an honorable Mandalorian, you
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Speaker 1: don't take a job from an Imperial. And I think
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Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons didn't Jar And in the
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Speaker 1: Mandalorian was like, wait a minute, and this has nothing
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Speaker 1: to do with Setina and then we're coming back. What
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Speaker 1: I just need to know, is this why people really
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Speaker 1: hate Bubba Fette because he was too passive as well
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Speaker 1: in the new show as well as the Mandalorian I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think that's why. I think I
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Speaker 1: have my own opinion about that, but I don't think
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Speaker 1: it's that he I believe his armor is not full
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Speaker 1: best card armor is rare um. A lot of it
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Speaker 1: is plasteroid because the Imperials did take it, take it all.
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Speaker 1: But what didn't jar And is wearing his full best guard. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So back to Settin. Under her leadership, the planet did well,
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Speaker 1: but despite that a lot of Mandalorian groups really did
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Speaker 1: not approve of her pacifist ways. She had a piece
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Speaker 1: of park built and passed the laws to do away
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Speaker 1: with a violent Mandalorian practices that led to the Mandalorian
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Speaker 1: Civil War. She did her best to keep Mandalora out
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Speaker 1: of the Clone Wars was a war orchestrated by Palpatine
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Speaker 1: involving clones that became store and troopers through the chips
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Speaker 1: in their heads. It's the whole thing, um and separate stroids,
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Speaker 1: and she was a extremely vocal dissenter of this war,
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Speaker 1: despite multiple attempts on her life. One of her biggest
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Speaker 1: opponents was from the Mandalorian group death Watch YEP, often
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Speaker 1: described as terrorist. Sound familiar if you've seen the Mandalorian
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Speaker 1: it should um. Settin's estranged sister, bo Katan, was a
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Speaker 1: member of death Watch. When war broke out between the
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Speaker 1: Confederacy of Independent Systems and the Republic, Settine was determined
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Speaker 1: to remain neutral and became the leader of the Council
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Speaker 1: of Neutral Systems. This was not a popular decision. The
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Speaker 1: Confederacy and the Republic condemned her, desiring Mandalorian military prowress
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Speaker 1: on their side. On top of this, Settine faced shortages
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Speaker 1: and increased attacks from death Watch and even then arrest,
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Speaker 1: warrant and assassination at The Republic attempted to occupy Mandalora
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Speaker 1: and response to these things, but the team managed to
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Speaker 1: appeal to them to halt their occupation. UM. As the
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Speaker 1: work continued, she faced corruption in a black market. She
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Speaker 1: had a lot going on, so wait, her sister was
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Speaker 1: against her. YEP, sure, that's why we see her feeling
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Speaker 1: so bad in the Mandalorian part of it. Yes, that
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Speaker 1: trail of Star Wars. I tell you so much. I'm
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Speaker 1: telling you so. Though her relationship with the Republic was complicated,
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Speaker 1: she was friends with pad may Amatala and Jedi master
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Speaker 1: Obi Wan Kenobi. In fact, she and Obi One they
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Speaker 1: had a lot going on too. So earlier when multiple
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Speaker 1: bounty hunters had been sent after Steam, Jedi quiganjin Um
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Speaker 1: and his apprentice Obi One were sent to protect her,
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Speaker 1: and there were these increasing threats, so the trio fled
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Speaker 1: the in it having adventures on the run, you know,
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Speaker 1: as you do. In one incident, Obi Wan rescued Satine
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Speaker 1: from some venomous mites, but accidentally dropped her while carrying
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Speaker 1: her to safety, resulting in a permanent scar that she
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Speaker 1: brings up quite frequently. Do they get together, Samantha, You
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Speaker 1: can ask me to ask questions and not expect me
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Speaker 1: not to jil the ahead. But yes, they of course
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Speaker 1: started to develop romantic feelings for each other. Yes. Eventually
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Speaker 1: her supporters ensured it was safe enough for Settine to
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Speaker 1: return to Mandalora, but that was not the end of
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Speaker 1: their interactions at all. Obi One was later sent by
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Speaker 1: the Jedi Council to investigate an incident on Mandalore, where
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Speaker 1: they have some witty, snarky back and forth um a walk,
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Speaker 1: some compliments, some political conversations about peace and violence, and Jedi.
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Speaker 1: After she was attacked during their walk, Setine rushed to
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Speaker 1: help those injured and later held the hand of one
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Speaker 1: of the perpetrators as he died. Later, after Obi one
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Speaker 1: was captured, she rushed to his rescue. They banter some
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Speaker 1: bar and they fight their way out of a death
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Speaker 1: watch camp, where it is revealed that Governor vis La
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Speaker 1: is an ownership of the Dark Savor. Obi One best
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Speaker 1: him in combat. Mum Setina and Obi One meet up again,
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Speaker 1: though by this point Setine is annoyed with Obi one
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Speaker 1: support for the Republic's occupation of Mandalore, and their relationship
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Speaker 1: is tense. She argued the Jedi were no longer peacekeepers,
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Speaker 1: and he argued she was naive and only listened to
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Speaker 1: people that agreed with her. They were able to fight
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Speaker 1: seamlessly together to fend off another assassination attempt on her,
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Speaker 1: though um at one point she was tortured but refused
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Speaker 1: to give up her ideals, and later when she was
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Speaker 1: held hostage and believe she was going to die. She
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Speaker 1: confessed that she had been in love with him since
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Speaker 1: they had met, and he told her he was ready
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Speaker 1: to leave the Jedi order for her. Did you not
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Speaker 1: learn from Anakin? Okay? So this is a hard going
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Speaker 1: to get to it. I'm so excited. Okay. So she
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Speaker 1: escate and they both decided they couldn't abandon their responsibilities,
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Speaker 1: though that they wished they could, they could not be together.
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Speaker 1: But if you jump ahead back to our main timeline,
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Speaker 1: I guess the sixth Darth Maul, who's kind of the
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Speaker 1: demonic looking fellow that was first introduced in Phantom Menace,
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Speaker 1: and he's like, really, he's really mad. Obi Wan Kenobi
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Speaker 1: cut him in half and it's kind of got this
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Speaker 1: whole thing about him that's kind of fair. United a
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Speaker 1: bunch of crime families, including the Pikes Yea from Black
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Speaker 1: Sun and the Huts known as the Shadow Collective, including
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Speaker 1: death Watch leader pre Wisla. Yep, so this Busla family
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Speaker 1: is really all up in it. To get rid of
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Speaker 1: Settine curs, they attacked the capital of Mantalore and arrested Settin.
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Speaker 1: Darth Maul killed this Uh and claimed the Dark Saber
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Speaker 1: after Vislap betrayed him and was briefly the leader of Mandalora,
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Speaker 1: and bo Katan defected, freeing her sister from prison. They
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Speaker 1: both agreed to work together to take out Mall, who
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Speaker 1: was now acting as ruler of Mandalore. So team managed
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Speaker 1: to contact Obi Wan with a very You're my only
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Speaker 1: hope message before she was recaptured. The Jedi Council turned
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Speaker 1: down Obie's one's request to help due to them being
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Speaker 1: neutral and it being an internal matter, but Obi Wan
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Speaker 1: disobeyed them and he rescues the teen in a very Hi,
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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Scott Walker, I'm here to rescue you moment um,
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Speaker 1: and they banter about the memories they have together, good
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Speaker 1: and bad. However, the pair are once again captured trying
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Speaker 1: to escape Darth Maul Yes hates Obi One, and so
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Speaker 1: he murders the teen with the dark Sabor in front
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Speaker 1: of him in an attempt to punish him and turn
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Speaker 1: him to the dark side. As she died, she told
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Speaker 1: Obi One she loved him, and then her era of
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Speaker 1: sophism on Mandalor ended. Her planet is in turmoil the
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Speaker 1: governments and ruins. Obi Wan struggles with anger over this
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Speaker 1: um and try to get Anakin to open up to
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Speaker 1: him by sharing his own emotions and experiences. So when
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Speaker 1: we did that episode on Jedi Attachment recently, in that
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Speaker 1: happy Hour, this is an example of having the attachment
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Speaker 1: letting it go Anakin. Anakin had a lot of other
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Speaker 1: things going on the right way. Yes, So let me
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Speaker 1: go back to this one moment because I need to
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Speaker 1: have a moment about this whole. Do you predict that
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Speaker 1: we will see uh Darth Maul in the Obi wan
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Speaker 1: Kenobi Uh? I believe he was going to be in it.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of news that he was written out
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Speaker 1: creative differences with the actor or the creators. They did
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Speaker 1: like a whole rehault apparently, and they wrote out Darth
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Speaker 1: Maul and replaced him with Darth Vader and the Grand Inquisitor.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay. And on top of that, this is all
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Speaker 1: this information you're getting from comics. No, this is mostly
21:20
Speaker 1: in the show. Oh is it actually? Okay? This is
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Speaker 1: how little I know of this show. I'm not gonna lie.
21:24
Speaker 1: The animation did not interest me and I could care less.
21:27
Speaker 1: And you were correct when you said that uh Osaka
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Speaker 1: was so badly done at the beginning, he does come
21:34
Speaker 1: into herself has and then we're gonna talk about it
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Speaker 1: in a second, I know, but so I was trying
21:38
Speaker 1: to figure it out. Okay, okay, okay. So we have
21:42
Speaker 1: seen Pokaton come back with a sister for like a
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Speaker 1: moment of truth Darth Maul, who did show up in Rebels,
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Speaker 1: so I do know that context of him. Of course,
21:52
Speaker 1: we saw him in the one that I liked, the
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Speaker 1: soul Han solo because no one dies for no reason
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Speaker 1: ogu one um however, big reason reason, but it was
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Speaker 1: not warned. I was not warned. Still better still look
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Speaker 1: out for our pick for me anyway. But okay, so
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Speaker 1: that's where we see Darth Maul, and Darth Maul pops
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Speaker 1: back up in Rubbles as an older person, yes, okay, yes,
22:22
Speaker 1: And he's an interesting character because he's a he was
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Speaker 1: kind of betrayed by the sixth and he's in a
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Speaker 1: weird in between space. Also Obi one just like kills
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Speaker 1: him in one hit. It's pretty pretty wild. And also Bocaton,
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Speaker 1: do you think it's going to come up in Obi one? No?
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Her story is not gonna play out.
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Speaker 1: Do you think it's gonna be played that in Mandalorian
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Speaker 1: or is it going to be a whole difference. Yes, Oh,
22:46
Speaker 1: she's going to show back up for sure. I know,
22:49
Speaker 1: like she led her up to be like a bigger
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Speaker 1: character or at least a plot line. Yeah, No, she's
22:53
Speaker 1: gonna She's for sure going to show back up. I
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Speaker 1: think they're trying to consolidate storyline, which is why they
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Speaker 1: wrote out Darth Maul. I'm very excited to talk about
23:03
Speaker 1: Buru Um. But anyway, all right, yes, so just to
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Speaker 1: really twist the knife like Star Wars likes to do,
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Speaker 1: a Soca who is Anakin's padawan who left the Jedi Order,
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Speaker 1: who we're going to talk about soon. Um. She taught
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Speaker 1: at an academy on Mandalor, and after she left the
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Speaker 1: Jedi Order, she answered the call of Bokaton to help
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Speaker 1: take the planet back from Darth Maul. She approached Obi
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Speaker 1: Wan and Anakin for help, but they had been called
23:30
Speaker 1: in on a rescue mission to save Chancellor Palpatine. And yes,
23:33
Speaker 1: this is the scene that opens Revenge of the Sith
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Speaker 1: right before Anakin falls. But Obi One was reluctant to
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Speaker 1: send aid to Mandalora because it would break all of
23:43
Speaker 1: these treaties that were in place, but Asoka was able
23:46
Speaker 1: to get them to agree to send her the squad
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Speaker 1: of Clone troopers to help, and with Aska's help, Bocaton
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Speaker 1: is able to take control of Mandalor. But then, of course,
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Speaker 1: Chancellor Palpatine initiated Orders sixty six, the Jedi re murdered,
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Speaker 1: the Chips and the Clones activated um the Empire rose,
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Speaker 1: Anakin became Vader Obi one went into hiding, pad Mate
24:07
Speaker 1: gave birth and died, and Balbadine yeah became emperor and yeah,
24:13
Speaker 1: truly this happens in two depressing episodes. Who they packed
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Speaker 1: a lot of him. Also, Sabine Wren, who was once
24:20
Speaker 1: a member of death Watch and I guarantee you'll be
24:22
Speaker 1: seeing her a lot, soon developed a super weapon that
24:24
Speaker 1: she called the Duchess after setenef uh So, yeah, she
24:29
Speaker 1: remained a controversial figure, like if if to be named
24:32
Speaker 1: a weapon after this pacifist settine, that's spoof and Mall
24:38
Speaker 1: kept a portrait of her as sort of a trophy
24:40
Speaker 1: after he killed her, and Bocaton, who never like officially
24:46
Speaker 1: one the Saber lost it to mof Gideon, So that's
24:50
Speaker 1: why she's so particular. And the Mandalorian about I have
24:55
Speaker 1: to win it this way, are no one will respect me,
24:59
Speaker 1: especially d I lost it to this guy. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: because so in the rebels, it's been a minute. Sabine
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Speaker 1: won the dark saber. Mm hmm. She had it from
25:13
Speaker 1: you gave it to Bokaton. Yes, you can gift it
25:16
Speaker 1: to people. No you can't. She did though, and Bokatan
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Speaker 1: believes that because they didn't obey that tradition of it
25:24
Speaker 1: has to be won in fair combat. That's and no
25:28
Speaker 1: one respected her anyway because she had just been gifted it.
25:31
Speaker 1: You have to win it in combat. So had they
25:33
Speaker 1: had a fake battle, she would can't throw the fight.
25:37
Speaker 1: You have to be That's another thing when when Dna
25:41
Speaker 1: Jarm was like just take it, and she's like no,
25:43
Speaker 1: we'll fight you take it, She's like no, Like it
25:45
Speaker 1: has to be a fair you've lost it fairly and
25:49
Speaker 1: not with somebody throwing the fight, because the saber again
25:52
Speaker 1: can sense you're so it needs the true intentions. Sabine
25:58
Speaker 1: probably would have lost a bok on when she had
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Speaker 1: they actually fought it. I don't know, because again, you
26:05
Speaker 1: have to train with the saber, like a lightsaber is
26:08
Speaker 1: not a thing. You just pick up and can use.
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Speaker 1: It's a very especially for somebody who can't use the force.
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Speaker 1: It will fight you. And that's why she has that
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Speaker 1: long training scene with Kanan and I don't know that Bocaton.
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Speaker 1: I don't think she ever had. I'm very better at
26:22
Speaker 1: he's dead, but I think that might be why I
26:24
Speaker 1: stopped watching everything. I was like, why, I'm very angry.
26:29
Speaker 1: His voice is in Rise of Skywalker. You well, no,
26:36
Speaker 1: that's what I have to say about Settine. I doubt
26:39
Speaker 1: she's gonna show up, to be honest, but I do
26:41
Speaker 1: think that's sort of an important part of Obi One's character.
26:44
Speaker 1: He did have this. He was able to let's Settin
26:50
Speaker 1: and Obie's relationship, but we went Canobie's relationship is canon?
26:54
Speaker 1: Isn't Disney's whole thing to keep Canton? Can they really
26:58
Speaker 1: ignore Settine? No? I don't think they want to ignore.
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Speaker 1: I just think they won't. I think in this show
27:04
Speaker 1: she won't come up. I don't know, maybe she will.
27:07
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll be wrong. Because he spends a lot time
27:09
Speaker 1: with Tattoine, I'm assuming just reminiscing, ruminating over the sad
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Speaker 1: things that it's like, it's okay, okay, all right, I'm
27:19
Speaker 1: glad Samantha will allow it, but I still hesitate. Okay, Wow,
27:25
Speaker 1: this one did. I'm so glad we did it this way.
27:27
Speaker 1: I hope that it's not been super confusing and it
27:31
Speaker 1: has illuminated some things for you. Uh and yeah, We've
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Speaker 1: got many more Star Wars ladies to talk about, so
27:38
Speaker 1: I'm excited, so many more questions. Yes, I love it.
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