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Susan Luken for Juvenile Court · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: See the talk station seven thirty three. If if you've
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  Speaker 1: have KCV talkstation a little bit long with Congressman Davidson,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have some time to spend with Susan Lucan. Susan
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  Speaker 1: Lucan for Juvenile Court Judge. Find her online Lucan l
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  Speaker 1: uk e N four, not the number of the word
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  Speaker 1: four four juvenile court dot com. Learn about who she is,
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  Speaker 1: her experience and she's got a lot of it, and
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  Speaker 1: why she wants to be the Juvenile Court judge. Welcome,
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  Speaker 1: Susan Lucan. It's a pleasure to have you on the program.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Brian, it's great to be back. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to ask you all kinds of questions about
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  Speaker 1: advisory opinions, but we all know you can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about your motivation for wanting to run
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  Speaker 1: for judge against I guess it's Judge Bloom who's, at
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  Speaker 1: least in terms of my listening audience and all the
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  Speaker 1: comments I've heard, kind of a bit of a disappointment
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  Speaker 1: because when it comes dealing with juveniles in the criminal
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  Speaker 1: justice system, she doesn't seem to want to meet on
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  Speaker 1: any punishments and that's I think what's sadly missing from
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton County criminal justice these days. But why juvenile Court
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  Speaker 1: Judge Susan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that is a big concern and that's
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  Speaker 2: definitely one of the big motivators too. So you know
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  Speaker 2: when I've been on the show before and we talked
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  Speaker 2: quite a bit about my background and you were very
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  Speaker 2: generous and covering it and doing your research like you
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  Speaker 2: always do. So I'm currently a magistrate in Provate Court
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  Speaker 2: and I've been there for a few years, but i
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  Speaker 2: was also a magistrate in Juvenile Court as well, and
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  Speaker 2: between those two courts I've been on the bench for
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  Speaker 2: about six years now. I also have experience as a
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  Speaker 2: court administrator too, but I have a passion for helping
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  Speaker 2: children and families and one of the things that I'm
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  Speaker 2: finding so frustrating right now about juvenile Court is just
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  Speaker 2: the revolving door that we see on juvenile justice and
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  Speaker 2: just the inability or the lack of willingness to use
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  Speaker 2: detention as a means to deal with some of the
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  Speaker 2: problems that we're seeing. And when we don't use detention
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  Speaker 2: as an intervention, we're really failing to protect kids because
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  Speaker 2: what we're seeing is that very often kids are the
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  Speaker 2: victims of a lot of the offenses that are going on.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we just saw nineteen year old that was
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  Speaker 2: arrested for the assassination style shooting of a fifteen year old.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, there's a City of Sinceni report and
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  Speaker 2: I think I mentioned this last time I was on
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  Speaker 2: the air that said that children or child victimization went
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  Speaker 2: up in twenty twenty three by seventy percent. And so
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  Speaker 2: we have to ask our we have to ask ourselves
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  Speaker 2: when we're not using detention as an intervention, who are
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  Speaker 2: we choosing to protect? And it's certainly not other children,
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  Speaker 2: So you know, and I just I'm trying to keep
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  Speaker 2: track of all the shootings that are going on, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just like, I know, what's going on in
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  Speaker 2: our city right now is amazing. A close friend of
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  Speaker 2: mine said that he was downtown literally on a Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: and he saw what couldn't have been older than a
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  Speaker 2: fifteen year old walking around on Walnut Street with AK
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  Speaker 2: forty seventh style weapon by daylight around six pm. So
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  Speaker 2: it's just it's crazy what's going on right now. But
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  Speaker 2: I think that what we're yeah, And I think that
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  Speaker 2: what we're seeing is a lot of judges came in
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning of twenty twenty, including my opponent, Carry Boom,
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  Speaker 2: and she became the administrative judge in twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: And these administrative judges are setting the policy for the court.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that what we're seeing is just the
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  Speaker 2: effect of that. And it is certainly a policy that's
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  Speaker 2: been set on in the adult court on bond, but
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  Speaker 2: also on detention. And you know, and we're seeing a
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  Speaker 2: lot of delays in the courts as well, and we're
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  Speaker 2: seeing the aftermath of that, and you know, we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: these kids just growing up knowing that there are going
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  Speaker 2: to be no consequences and no accountability. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know what's going on with all of
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  Speaker 2: these shootings that are happening, and you know, want of Hills.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we have them in North College Hill. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if they're related, but you know, that fifteen
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  Speaker 2: year old was just picked up for the you know,
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  Speaker 2: aggravated murder, for the aggravated murder charges for the fifty
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  Speaker 2: year old.
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  Speaker 1: I reel over that every time that the how young
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  Speaker 1: these children are that get the firearms and murder their
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  Speaker 1: fellow I mean usually it's their neighbors. I mean Christopher
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  Speaker 1: Smith has been on the program altitude of times talking
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  Speaker 1: about listen, in most of the cases, the shootings and
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  Speaker 1: the murders are black on black crime. You know, where
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  Speaker 1: are the black community and demanding some sort of control
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  Speaker 1: over this or some efforts by the criminal justice system
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  Speaker 1: to bring these children account to some accountability. It's just disappeared.
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  Speaker 1: And on that note, pause, I want to bring it
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  Speaker 1: back Susan Lucan to see if you think city hall,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the mayor, maybe the city manager have some policy
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  Speaker 1: or some control or influence over the decision making and
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  Speaker 1: the direction the administrative judges are taking. Pause online you'll
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  Speaker 1: find her and you should lucan Ford Juvenile Court dot com.
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  Speaker 1: And we're talking about Susan Lukin's on the program today
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  Speaker 1: to talk about her race against Judge Bloom and going
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  Speaker 1: back to what seemingly just ignoring the key element as
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  Speaker 1: I call it. You don't have to agree with me.
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  Speaker 1: The punishment is a key on the criminal justice system.
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  Speaker 1: There needs to be that deterrent effect. You know, all
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  Speaker 1: my buddy down the street got picked up. He was
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  Speaker 1: committing a crime. He ended up going to the You
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  Speaker 1: Detention Center, had to spend some time there. It sucked.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to go down that road without punishment.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to have repeat offenders. Of course, recidibus is
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  Speaker 1: a recidab isn't a problem. But the police are in
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  Speaker 1: the sort of like why bother mode. I've had FOP
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  Speaker 1: President Ken Kober on the program I'm talking about. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: we can't take kids of the curfew centers because well,
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  Speaker 1: then we'll be understaffed on the ground when all these
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  Speaker 1: youths run them up in downtown Cincinnati. We can't sacrifice
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  Speaker 1: the officers making a trip over to the center. Only
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  Speaker 1: four kids were even drop dropped off at the curfew
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  Speaker 1: center last year in the entire calendar year, so those
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  Speaker 1: are unused. And then we find out from him and
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  Speaker 1: others that it's not even worth taking into the juvenile
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  Speaker 1: court system because nothing's going to happen to them. Is
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  Speaker 1: this the breakdown or is there something more nefarious going
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  Speaker 1: on behind the scenes, which I've always blamed, which is
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  Speaker 1: lack of a family life and parents who care well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's multi fascinate, but I think
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  Speaker 2: that that's certainly part of it. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 2: that there's just there's a huge system breakdown. There's there's
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  Speaker 2: so much to it, and and I think that you
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  Speaker 2: had mentioned too something about you know, city hall, and
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  Speaker 2: there are so many different elements to this and just
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  Speaker 2: just have to remain independent and they're thinking. But but
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  Speaker 2: I think that there's a common audiology that's shared here.
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  Speaker 2: And I do think that they're certainly a breakdown in
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  Speaker 2: the home too, and so there you know. But on
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  Speaker 2: the other hand, we did they have I believe in
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  Speaker 2: that case of the fifteen year old, there was a
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  Speaker 2: family member that turned that that that youth over right,
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  Speaker 2: So you know, you know, you know, and that's that's
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  Speaker 2: what you need. You need more people to step up.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess when it gets bad enough people maybe
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  Speaker 2: we'll do that. But but I think Ken is absolutely
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  Speaker 2: right and you need city hall, We need more police officers.
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  Speaker 2: How bad does it have to get before people start
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  Speaker 2: taking this seriously? And you know, I mean we had
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  Speaker 2: someone was telling me the other day we had what
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  Speaker 2: fifty cars that were broken into and Nount Adams the
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  Speaker 2: other night and it took it took police forty three
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  Speaker 2: minutes to be able to respond to that. And it's
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  Speaker 2: not just center, it's not just in the inner city
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  Speaker 2: city anymore. It's spreading everywhere. I mean, red, white, and
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  Speaker 2: blue ash. They're shutting down you have to be if
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  Speaker 2: you're under eighteen, you can't get in without adult supervision. Right,
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  Speaker 2: Like our whole all of Hamilton County is changing in
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  Speaker 2: reaction to this, like our way of life is changing
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  Speaker 2: in reaction. And so it's just I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: question of how bad does it have to get, how
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  Speaker 2: far does it have to go, how much does it
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  Speaker 2: have to reach before people decide, Okay, enough is enough?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Well, clearly there.
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  Speaker 2: Are most I think Ken's absolutely right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and Ken's on Ken's behalf. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: got to defend the police department. They're understaffed and they
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  Speaker 1: have been. They are tired and worn out, and they
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  Speaker 1: also morale is struggling because of course they do all
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  Speaker 1: the effort to deal with these crazy youths and juveniles
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  Speaker 1: and anywhere everybody else that's involved in the criminal justice system,
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  Speaker 1: only to find out the break down is either the
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton County Prosecutor's office or in front of one of
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  Speaker 1: these woke judges who does not believe in punishment is
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  Speaker 1: an appropriate response to well violencer law breaking. Three areas police,
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  Speaker 1: Prosecutor's office and the bench. But then go to area
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  Speaker 1: number four, which is of course the home life, and
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  Speaker 1: over to City Hall, where they have embraced this sort
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  Speaker 1: of woke ideology as well. Whether it's rubbed off and
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  Speaker 1: is responsible for the way that the judges respond to
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  Speaker 1: criminal actions by most notably juveniles, doesn't really matter. There
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  Speaker 1: are multiple elements here, all of which seem to be broke.
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  Speaker 2: Right right, and and but you've got to start somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to address every every element in the system.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why we've got to start, and we've got
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  Speaker 2: to start with our races. And we really do think
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  Speaker 2: we have a shot. And it's such an important race,
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  Speaker 2: and it's such a big area, the juvenile aspect and
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  Speaker 2: the way that it's affecting our community is so important.
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  Speaker 2: And I really do believe in this race, and that's
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  Speaker 2: why I'm doing it. And we need your help, and
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  Speaker 2: we need to help your listeners, and so we really
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  Speaker 2: appreciate that. Go to the website, check it out, if
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  Speaker 2: you want to volunteer, whatever you want to do. We
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  Speaker 2: really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I'll take and make a pleasure
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  Speaker 1: right now. I rarely donate to politicians, but I'm feeling
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  Speaker 1: frisky and I'm going to donate to your campaign. At
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  Speaker 1: the website looking for Juvenile Court dot com. Get the
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  Speaker 1: help out, help her knockdoors. I participate in the campaign.
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  Speaker 1: There's a little get involved link. You can get involved
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  Speaker 1: walk the streets. And I think it will be really
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  Speaker 1: easy to convince, because I believe in my heart of
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  Speaker 1: hearts based when everything I've heard from a variety of
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  Speaker 1: different people living in a variety of different neighborhoods, The
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  Speaker 1: idea that people don't want police around, The idea that
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  Speaker 1: people think the police are inherently evil or wrong and
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  Speaker 1: they represent some threat to society is a small fraction.
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  Speaker 1: People want peace, calm, and stability and law enforcement in
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  Speaker 1: their neighborhood. And I know you embrace the concept.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And who doesn't want to live in a
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  Speaker 2: face neighborhood. Who doesn't want to be safe in their home?
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  Speaker 1: Amen? No one period. That's why I find it crazy
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  Speaker 1: that this whole idea of getting rid of the police
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  Speaker 1: is all the rage, at least in the last several years, Judge,
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  Speaker 1: look at it has been great. Thank you so I
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  Speaker 1: wish you all the best in your race. As we
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  Speaker 1: approach November, you have an open spot here on the
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  Speaker 1: fifty five Carsey Morning Show. Anytime you want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about the campaign and the race. I appreciate it anytime.
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  Speaker 1: Keep up the great work.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be praying for you, for everyone in the city
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  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati.