Latest / Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge / Dig That Hole (OC Recap)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera Jeedge.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Hi eyes. Welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
- 0:17Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Delores Catanya.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Hi, Delores, Hi, my Teddy. How are you today?
- 0:25Speaker 2: I'm good. I would be a miss if I didn't
- 0:28Speaker 2: ask you something that I just read on Bravo and cocktails.
- 0:31Speaker 1: What what are they putting up now? They got us
- 0:33Speaker 1: in trouble all the time.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Well, they're saying, Dolores, there's a new rumor that Real
- 0:38Speaker 2: Housewives in New Jersey is being cast around you, Melissa
- 0:42Speaker 2: and Marge.
- 0:42Speaker 1: No, Teresa, I don't think that's to be true.
- 0:47Speaker 2: You don't think that's true.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Cast around me.
- 0:50Speaker 2: That means that they're going to bring other people in.
- 0:53Speaker 2: And you guys are the three.
- 0:57Speaker 1: MM cannot no no decisions. This is what they say.
- 1:04Speaker 1: No decisions have been made yet.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'll take that answer. And then this is
- 1:12Speaker 2: just on a personal note for me, I just wanted
- 1:15Speaker 2: to give everybody a heads up. So this is a
- 1:18Speaker 2: reminder that even if you have you know, lung cancer,
- 1:23Speaker 2: brain cancer, whatever, you still need to continue to get
- 1:26Speaker 2: your skin checks because yesterday, I went to go get
- 1:29Speaker 2: a skin check and I had an abnormal spot. Yes,
- 1:34Speaker 2: and so they removed it. They they're sending it in
- 1:37Speaker 2: to get checked and make sure it's nothing. The good
- 1:41Speaker 2: news for me, what I'm telling myself means it's okay,
- 1:44Speaker 2: is it's in a new spot. All of my original
- 1:46Speaker 2: melanomas were on my back and this new spot is
- 1:49Speaker 2: on my stomach. But I just wanted to remind you guys,
- 1:53Speaker 2: because I hadn't gone in about six months for particular
- 1:58Speaker 2: skin check. Wow, Like, I'm.
- 2:02Speaker 1: That's a good reminder because people don't think you, especially
- 2:06Speaker 1: with everything you're going through.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Yeah you're like, oh, I'm getting checked, but no, you've
- 2:10Speaker 2: got to go. Remember, go get your skin checks, even
- 2:13Speaker 2: if you're in treatment for something else. There's specialty doctors
- 2:17Speaker 2: that do specialty things. So I'm really glad I went
- 2:20Speaker 2: yesterday because now we're on top of it and it's
- 2:24Speaker 2: going to get it's going to alleviate some stress.
- 2:28Speaker 1: So I'm glad to hear that. Thank you, And yeah,
- 2:32Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it makes so much sense to
- 2:34Speaker 1: think that because you're at doctors all the time, that
- 2:38Speaker 1: the other things that aren't being checked still exist.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Yeah, they still exist.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Wow, that's really really thank you for sharing that.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Of course, of course. All right, so this first one
- 2:50Speaker 2: is from Daily Dose of Style, Dolores. Do you still
- 2:54Speaker 2: want to get married?
- 2:56Speaker 1: Well? I never Oh yeah, I mean I'm open to
- 2:59Speaker 1: getting married. Yeah.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Yes, someone wrote it's just paperwork. Is that what you
- 3:04Speaker 2: think of marriage? Yeah, it's just a document.
- 3:10Speaker 1: It is because I live like I'm married anyway, and
- 3:15Speaker 1: I treat Paul as I would treat a husband, no
- 3:17Speaker 1: differently than I would treat a husband husband. But there
- 3:21Speaker 1: is paperwork that there is a security that comes with
- 3:26Speaker 1: the paperwork of a marriage that when you're putting the
- 3:29Speaker 1: time in with someone you should be entitled to for
- 3:33Speaker 1: both of you.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. This one is teddy. Have I seen
- 3:38Speaker 2: my dad recently? I have not. I've talked to I
- 3:42Speaker 2: saw him on the fourth of July, but I talked
- 3:44Speaker 2: to him on the phone every single day. And if
- 3:47Speaker 2: I miss his call, he sends a follow up text
- 3:50Speaker 2: like I didn't see the missed call, like.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Hey, let you know, leave you. He doesn't leave you
- 3:55Speaker 1: a voicemail like my dad, this is your father.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but even though he has call, I d
- 4:03Speaker 2: when I call if I just go, hey. He goes,
- 4:06Speaker 2: who is this? Is this Justice or Teddy? And I'm like,
- 4:09Speaker 2: because Justice is my sister.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Your sister.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know that my dad is very much there,
- 4:18Speaker 2: but I haven't seen him recently. I can't. Flying is
- 4:21Speaker 2: a lot for me right now, so I'm sure i'll
- 4:24Speaker 2: see him soon.
- 4:25Speaker 1: How old your dad? Now?
- 4:27Speaker 2: The other day somebody asked me this, and I straight
- 4:29Speaker 2: face go forty seven because I get my numbers confused.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Oh, seventy four.
- 4:37Speaker 2: I think he's about to be seventy four. Oh he'll
- 4:40Speaker 2: be seventy four in October. So I was pretty close.
- 4:45Speaker 2: I mean not with the forty seven thing, but with
- 4:47Speaker 2: the seventy four thing. I was pretty close. This one
- 4:51Speaker 2: is for both of us. What do you say to
- 4:54Speaker 2: people who think you guys won't criticize Tamra.
- 4:58Speaker 1: I feel like I always say when my friends are
- 5:02Speaker 1: wrong or right, I say it in a very diplomatic way. Yeah,
- 5:06Speaker 1: so that's what I say to that.
- 5:09Speaker 2: I mean doing that. I think that you know we're
- 5:12Speaker 2: diplomatic about it. I think we also care about her,
- 5:14Speaker 2: so we have empathy towards her, which I think when
- 5:17Speaker 2: we're watching this, I was sitting there thinking I thought
- 5:22Speaker 2: Emily and Gina and and Tamora were in a good place.
- 5:27Speaker 1: What's happening, I don't know, and I only realized that
- 5:31Speaker 1: in this episode. So I didn't see Emily so much.
- 5:35Speaker 1: I did see Gina losing her patients there. You know,
- 5:39Speaker 1: one of the reasons I think we could both say
- 5:42Speaker 1: why we don't criticize her is because you know your
- 5:45Speaker 1: relationship with Tama, and you know she was also going
- 5:48Speaker 1: through a lot, being worried about you and sincerely upset,
- 5:50Speaker 1: as you know personally firsthand. I know as well personally
- 5:54Speaker 1: firsthand because I was speaking to her quite a few
- 5:57Speaker 1: times while she was going through which was going through.
- 6:01Speaker 1: So I do know that it's hard for me to
- 6:04Speaker 1: criticize something when I know how they were feeling inside
- 6:07Speaker 1: and what they were going through.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's hard for me to criticize inside because
- 6:11Speaker 2: I've had so many crying conversations with her that were
- 6:14Speaker 2: just devastating during that time. And I know that, you know,
- 6:19Speaker 2: we went from talking every single day to then when
- 6:22Speaker 2: I was in the hospital, some days I couldn't talk
- 6:24Speaker 2: to anybody. Some days I wasn't there. And so she
- 6:27Speaker 2: said that, and I think she felt like she was
- 6:30Speaker 2: probably losing everyone. Yeah, and I think that when you
- 6:35Speaker 2: feel like you it didn't really feel like she had
- 6:37Speaker 2: anybody there for her in that moment. Like and I
- 6:40Speaker 2: even I joked with her on the pod last week.
- 6:42Speaker 2: I was like, what was up with you? Like your
- 6:44Speaker 2: eye looked like a little funky, and she was like, well,
- 6:49Speaker 2: I took a xanax and you know, while having champagne.
- 6:52Speaker 2: So that's what happened.
- 6:54Speaker 1: And I think, and that's there's her criticism right there.
- 6:57Speaker 1: We're saying she was drinking and she took as anax.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, that's why she couldn't really
- 7:05Speaker 2: carry the conversation and yeah, a lot of sense. So
- 7:09Speaker 2: there it goes. There's your criticism. I mean, the next
- 7:12Speaker 2: question is did Tarma really quit? I mean, I think
- 7:16Speaker 2: we all know the answer to that. I think in
- 7:18Speaker 2: that moment, she really quit.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Yeah, she did, in an emotional in the you know,
- 7:25Speaker 1: the emotional time that she was in in her mind,
- 7:28Speaker 1: she quit. But that that isn't the first time or
- 7:31Speaker 1: the last time that's going to happen in the housewives world.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Especially a beverage xanax fighting exhaustion from a trip. Do
- 7:43Speaker 2: you think Tamara should have shown more compassion to Shannon
- 7:46Speaker 2: last season.
- 7:47Speaker 1: You want the truth, I didn't watch last season that much,
- 7:52Speaker 1: so I can't. I can't speak on that.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Yeah, does think she should have I think Tamra does.
- 8:00Speaker 2: She should have shown more compassion. But I think Tamarra
- 8:02Speaker 2: is very much of a like direct person. So if
- 8:07Speaker 2: something's on her Drie used to always say this, saying,
- 8:11Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember if it's on my lung, it's
- 8:13Speaker 2: on my tongue, you know. Like so, But I do
- 8:17Speaker 2: think as we're seeing the relationship get stronger, I think
- 8:21Speaker 2: that she does regret some of the things that she says.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Well, she's said that, and she had also also said
- 8:27Speaker 1: she's working on herself and nobody's you know, I've heard
- 8:32Speaker 1: Tamra say she was sorry, and I've heard Tamra say
- 8:37Speaker 1: she was wrong. I don't know how much more we
- 8:39Speaker 1: want from somebody other than to not do those things
- 8:42Speaker 1: again after.
- 8:43Speaker 2: But sometimes when I mean, and this is something else
- 8:47Speaker 2: that Gina came out, I think it was on E
- 8:49Speaker 2: News or ET or something like that, but she said,
- 8:52Speaker 2: you know, I said something that I regret. Gina had
- 8:55Speaker 2: said something along the lines of like, well, she's doing
- 8:58Speaker 2: these things to get better than why she still making mistakes.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Just because we're working on ourselves doesn't mean we're still
- 9:04Speaker 2: not going to have slip ups.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, true, true, So.
- 9:10Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I appreciated that she did that. All right,
- 9:14Speaker 2: we'll get into we'll get into the recap now, folks,
- 9:16Speaker 2: But we had to get.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Into all of it. Yeah, And I'm and I love
- 9:19Speaker 1: I love the questions. I love the criticism, and if
- 9:24Speaker 1: they think that we need to say more, then I'll
- 9:28Speaker 1: consider it. I always look at well, I I you know, everybody,
- 9:36Speaker 1: I asked them to weigh in for a reason. So
- 9:38Speaker 1: let me see if I need to say more bad
- 9:41Speaker 1: stuff about Tampa right now. I don't feel like I
- 9:45Speaker 1: need to.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, I feel like she's gotten a pretty
- 9:48Speaker 2: big pileon and that's always been a very rough time.
- 9:52Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like she was, you know, walking
- 9:55Speaker 1: in here feeling great and on top of her game.
- 9:58Speaker 1: And I know that emotional times we do things that
- 10:03Speaker 1: maybe we regret. I've done it many times in my life.
- 10:06Speaker 1: I'm putting myself in her shoes because I know firsthand
- 10:09Speaker 1: what she was going through at the time. But the
- 10:11Speaker 1: person on the other end didn't so fine.
- 10:14Speaker 2: Yeah, but they also didn't ask. They didn't want to,
- 10:18Speaker 2: they didn't want to know, They didn't want to give
- 10:20Speaker 2: her any sort of outlet to communicate right while she
- 10:24Speaker 2: was feeling.
- 10:25Speaker 1: You know what, the truth. I think Tamora brings a
- 10:28Speaker 1: lot to the show, but by the way, how she
- 10:30Speaker 1: can be sometimes, and I think it makes everybody's job
- 10:34Speaker 1: a little lighter. Yeah, And I feel like everybody got
- 10:38Speaker 1: a lot of big balls now to say stuff they
- 10:40Speaker 1: may have wanted to say in the past because Gretchen
- 10:43Speaker 1: was there.
- 10:43Speaker 2: Yeah. True, that's how.
- 10:46Speaker 1: That's what I have to say.
- 10:48Speaker 2: That's your opinion. Well, we'll get into the Gretchen aspect
- 10:52Speaker 2: of it all in a little bit, okay. So it's
- 11:06Speaker 2: another day in New Orleans. Gina says she assigned Emily
- 11:10Speaker 2: to take the trouble Makers, which includes Tamra, Katie, and Shannon.
- 11:15Speaker 1: I want to be in that bus.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Then, before leaving, Shannon says she will not go to
- 11:21Speaker 2: lunch with Katie. Katie told them they will, she will
- 11:23Speaker 2: go without her. Katie told them go ahead and then
- 11:26Speaker 2: go without me.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Shannon's so funny. I'm sorry. I enjoy her anger.
- 11:33Speaker 2: I would like Katie to bottle up her ability to
- 11:37Speaker 2: maintain calmness in every dramatic situation and actually sell it
- 11:41Speaker 2: to me, and.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Then what we wouldn't have housewife shows?
- 11:48Speaker 2: But how does she always stay so good? I think
- 11:51Speaker 2: she says calm because she knows she's wrong.
- 11:53Speaker 1: I think somebody said to her at the table and
- 11:55Speaker 1: not to get ahead of us, like shut the fuck
- 11:57Speaker 1: up or I don't know whatever, and she goes, no,
- 12:00Speaker 1: to get the fuck out of here, and she goes,
- 12:01Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere.
- 12:03Speaker 2: Yeah, wherever? Then we get We panned to Tamra saying
- 12:09Speaker 2: the last time she was in New Orleans was with me.
- 12:11Speaker 2: That is accurate. I don't remember much of that trip.
- 12:15Speaker 2: That was the height of plumb size tumors in my brain.
- 12:19Speaker 2: So it was a really rough trip for us as
- 12:22Speaker 2: friends as well, because you know, you know how I
- 12:26Speaker 2: am like I like to you know, have my wits
- 12:30Speaker 2: about me and keep things together and have a you know,
- 12:33Speaker 2: follow a pattern, and I couldn't really do that at
- 12:36Speaker 2: that time, and it was just really a struggle. And
- 12:39Speaker 2: we have to remember this is just a few weeks after.
- 12:42Speaker 1: That, right, right, a few weeks after that, there was
- 12:47Speaker 1: a great deal of And I don't want to speak
- 12:49Speaker 1: for Tamera, but I'm sure that she has mentioned this.
- 12:53Speaker 1: I think you didn't know what was wrong and no
- 12:57Speaker 1: one knew right who would know? Who would have thought?
- 13:00Speaker 1: But she felt bad that she didn't know that you
- 13:02Speaker 1: were going through that. That weighed very heavy on her.
- 13:06Speaker 1: How is it not to get off this? But I
- 13:09Speaker 1: have such a question for you because on a much
- 13:12Speaker 1: smaller scale, when my mom saw the episode, when I
- 13:16Speaker 1: found out she was getting a quadrant she had to
- 13:18Speaker 1: go for open heart surgery. It really when she watched
- 13:21Speaker 1: it back when I got the call, when I was
- 13:23Speaker 1: filming with Jennaiden and my mother watched it, she got
- 13:28Speaker 1: very scared and like relived finding it out all over again.
- 13:32Speaker 1: How is it for you watching this being talked about
- 13:36Speaker 1: and what this is like?
- 13:38Speaker 2: It makes me emotional, to be perfectly honest, like I'm
- 13:41Speaker 2: watching it and I'm seeing all the heat that Tamar's
- 13:45Speaker 2: getting for you know, like it almost made me sad,
- 13:50Speaker 2: Like why it's hard not to take things personally. But
- 13:53Speaker 2: there's a point when people are just blowing off anything.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Tamor's saying that, like one does nobody care how I felt?
- 14:03Speaker 2: How I did not from Tama's sake from all the
- 14:05Speaker 2: other women, like they see their friends struggling to this extent,
- 14:10Speaker 2: why is nobody helping her?
- 14:12Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 14:13Speaker 2: And also yeah, reliving it, seeing it, hearing the conversations
- 14:18Speaker 2: and not being a part of them. Right, And that was,
- 14:21Speaker 2: you know, by choice. I mean obviously I could have
- 14:24Speaker 2: been a part of those conversations, but I knew better.
- 14:27Speaker 2: But this is this is where tam does fuck up
- 14:30Speaker 2: a little bit because she says an absolute which never works.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Tamar tells Shanna she isn't drinking much anymore and that
- 14:37Speaker 2: she isn't going to have a drink. Where I think
- 14:40Speaker 2: Tamar's getting it is because Tamra says.
- 14:43Speaker 1: You won't see me wasted while she's wasted.
- 14:46Speaker 2: Correct. Well, no, she wasn't even wasted at that point
- 14:48Speaker 2: in time. It was the same day though, a couple hours.
- 14:50Speaker 1: Prior, right, But she was drinking what you know, water.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Yeah, we all knew it was yellow. It'd be like,
- 15:01Speaker 2: this is a water.
- 15:02Speaker 1: If you say, listen, I'm the kind of friend if
- 15:05Speaker 1: you say that's fucking water, that's water, okay.
- 15:10Speaker 2: And it's not like she was trying to hide it
- 15:12Speaker 2: so much. You put it in a clear glass. She
- 15:14Speaker 2: could have.
- 15:15Speaker 1: Yeah, pissed water. We didn't say it was piss water.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Then all the girls meet up to walk in a parade.
- 15:24Speaker 2: The event brings awareness to adopting and fostering dogs, which
- 15:29Speaker 2: I'm for. All for this, I'm all for this. It
- 15:32Speaker 2: kind of made me laugh though, when Shannon said I
- 15:35Speaker 2: adopted Archie from the Four Seasons?
- 15:41Speaker 1: I was confused. What's the four Is that a Is
- 15:44Speaker 1: that a puppy mill?
- 15:45Speaker 2: I mean, what is the Four Seasons? She's talking about
- 15:49Speaker 2: the hotel? My guess is she up the dog there
- 15:53Speaker 2: and not come back. Don't I think she was joking.
- 15:55Speaker 2: I think she bought the dog and the breeder brought
- 15:58Speaker 2: it to the Four Seasons and that's where she picked
- 16:00Speaker 2: it up. But I could be wrong. This is completely help.
- 16:03Speaker 1: I took something. I do have her number. I should
- 16:06Speaker 1: ask her.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, or maybe she found it running around
- 16:11Speaker 2: the fourth Season.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a smart dog. Next time, when I come
- 16:15Speaker 1: back as a stray dog, because I know in this
- 16:17Speaker 1: life I fucked up, I'm coming back as a stray dog.
- 16:20Speaker 1: I'm going to run right to a five star hotel outside.
- 16:27Speaker 1: I'm lonely. I didn't learn my lesson.
- 16:30Speaker 2: Yet, then all the girls decided to go meet the
- 16:34Speaker 2: voodoo queen.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Bloody marass On that bitch.
- 16:39Speaker 2: I don't care who I would have had to go
- 16:40Speaker 2: sit with. I would have passed on that. Shannon, Tamar
- 16:43Speaker 2: and Gretchen also pass on that because they don't want
- 16:45Speaker 2: to participate, so they head back outside.
- 16:47Speaker 1: It's so funny they would They've done things like horrible
- 16:52Speaker 1: things in their lives, but they're going to pass on
- 16:54Speaker 1: the voodoo doll okay.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Sitting outside, Tama recounts that Katie claimed to Kikimo that
- 17:00Speaker 2: Gretchen told her Tamra had roofed her. Gretchen says she
- 17:04Speaker 2: never said that, and then Shannon doesn't want to be
- 17:07Speaker 2: around Katie because of what she does. If I were,
- 17:13Speaker 2: I mean, this is all you know, news to me,
- 17:17Speaker 2: like not, I'm not shocked by this information as shocked
- 17:22Speaker 2: as especially Gretchen appeared to be. She tried to squeeze
- 17:27Speaker 2: the tear out, but she was able to say, I
- 17:29Speaker 2: wasn't crying, and we were like, we know, because you
- 17:31Speaker 2: couldn't get a tear out of there, but you wanted
- 17:34Speaker 2: went out.
- 17:36Speaker 1: Just don't try, like if you can't, it's worse if
- 17:39Speaker 1: you try, you're better off. Just not you're funny, Like
- 17:45Speaker 1: she couldn't squeeze one out for.
- 17:47Speaker 2: Us, She couldn't even squeeze out of herself in the eye.
- 17:50Speaker 2: But if I were Katie during this entire voodoo thing,
- 17:53Speaker 2: I'd be keeping an eye on what Heather's doll looked like.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Then we flashed back to Tamor telling Gretchen that she
- 18:06Speaker 2: does want to sit down because there's a lot in
- 18:08Speaker 2: the past that she wants to apologize for. Gretchen all
- 18:11Speaker 2: of a sudden clocked in when she called out Shannon
- 18:13Speaker 2: for d UI also being illegal.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Well there you go, Yeah, there you go. But but Shannon,
- 18:23Speaker 1: I don't think is hearing it like she's not having it.
- 18:26Speaker 2: Yeah, no, because they're saying the two differences between you know,
- 18:33Speaker 2: giving information, recording somebody on the phone doing all of that,
- 18:37Speaker 2: getting a DUI, I mean all things. Yes, that is
- 18:40Speaker 2: a true statement. It's all illegal, right, but no you can't.
- 18:46Speaker 2: But it's based I guess it didn't have anything to
- 18:51Speaker 2: do with Katie, right, there's no reason for Katie to
- 18:54Speaker 2: get involved.
- 18:56Speaker 1: Well, if you want to talk, Katie was premeditated, I believe, yeah,
- 19:02Speaker 1: And sometimes that's a premeditated murder is you're going to
- 19:05Speaker 1: do more time than you would if you just accidentally
- 19:08Speaker 1: killed somebody.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very true.
- 19:11Speaker 1: So there's different levels here.
- 19:12Speaker 2: So Kikim Monique has eluded online like that, Katie is lying,
- 19:19Speaker 2: but she's letting it play out for us on the show.
- 19:22Speaker 1: She can elude. Okay, first of all, all I want
- 19:26Speaker 1: to say is where's the proof? Where's the proof? Where's
- 19:31Speaker 1: the black and white? Where is it? Let's sas in writing.
- 19:35Speaker 1: Somebody's got it if it's in.
- 19:36Speaker 2: Writing, and I want to see the proof, and then
- 19:39Speaker 2: I want to But then what are we waiting for?
- 19:41Speaker 2: Even if we get the proof? Well, we never got
- 19:43Speaker 2: the proof earlier this season when it came to Katie either,
- 19:46Speaker 2: she never shows. But I guess next episode we'll get
- 19:49Speaker 2: the proof.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Well, I'm waiting for it. How could you hold it
- 19:53Speaker 1: that long?
- 19:54Speaker 2: I don't know. If it was me and I didn't
- 19:57Speaker 2: do it, I'd been like, do you see anything there?
- 20:04Speaker 2: Do you have your.
- 20:05Speaker 1: Glasses on that we're going to see next episode?
- 20:08Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, then the girls are getting ready
- 20:12Speaker 2: for dinner, tam Or goes to Shannon's room. Shannon's hair
- 20:14Speaker 2: is honestly that's what my hair would look like if
- 20:17Speaker 2: I try to do it myself. And Tam or even
- 20:27Speaker 2: then it was like, Shannon, I'm scared you're not going
- 20:29Speaker 2: to fix this. I feel scared fix it because you
- 20:32Speaker 2: know when you tease the back and then you just
- 20:34Speaker 2: leave it.
- 20:34Speaker 1: And yeah, something about Mary.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Yeah, like on day three of like not washing your
- 20:39Speaker 2: hair and it's just not doing that giving greasy.
- 20:43Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's not giving taking its own form.
- 20:59Speaker 2: Then tam Emmer says she is nervous about how to
- 21:01Speaker 2: bring up the Katie situation. Tarama says, it feels good
- 21:04Speaker 2: to have Shannon on her side again.
- 21:07Speaker 1: It's funny how they bonded over their hate for the
- 21:09Speaker 1: same person.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes friend takes well, by the.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Way, they don't usually last those friendships. But hey, it's
- 21:17Speaker 1: good for now, ride this wave.
- 21:19Speaker 2: And we it was good. I think this is the
- 21:21Speaker 2: first time I've seen her like go to Shannon's room
- 21:24Speaker 2: and those are the tutor recap before they go in.
- 21:26Speaker 2: But I guess, you know, they had a mutual person
- 21:29Speaker 2: that they had an issue with. But Tama's like, at
- 21:31Speaker 2: this point, tamers getting a little nerved up, as she
- 21:34Speaker 2: should be. That Gretchen isn't going to really believe what
- 21:40Speaker 2: Tamar said now, and.
- 21:42Speaker 1: I understand that she isn't. I mean, I get it,
- 21:46Speaker 1: but unless she's got it in black and white, how's
- 21:49Speaker 1: she going to prove it? I always say it's harder
- 21:52Speaker 1: to prove that you're innocent.
- 21:54Speaker 2: It's definitely harder to prove that you're innocent. Well, then
- 21:56Speaker 2: Jen goes to Gretchen's room. She's still in a robe,
- 21:59Speaker 2: which bugs me because it's like, you know what time
- 22:02Speaker 2: dinner is and we know you're going. Gretchen tells her
- 22:05Speaker 2: what she heard from Tamra about Katie, and then Katie
- 22:08Speaker 2: then goes to Gretchen's room. Katie seems shocked. She says
- 22:11Speaker 2: she never said that, and she thinks it's all Tama's plan.
- 22:18Speaker 2: I just what I found the most interesting about this
- 22:20Speaker 2: conversation between the three of them is why were Matt
- 22:24Speaker 2: and Slade involved in these conversations? They both said I
- 22:29Speaker 2: talked to Slade, I talked to Matt, like they're calling
- 22:34Speaker 2: their significant others and her husbands and telling them that.
- 22:40Speaker 1: They did that too. I got very confused.
- 22:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, it made it seem like even
- 22:48Speaker 2: more guilty on Katie's.
- 22:49Speaker 1: Part, and why should anybody believe Katie?
- 22:53Speaker 2: Yeah, and why should anybody believe Matt. We've seen Matt
- 22:56Speaker 2: get a little more.
- 22:58Speaker 1: I know it's just a big I think it's a
- 23:01Speaker 1: big shit show right now, and they better get their
- 23:04Speaker 1: shit together next episode.
- 23:06Speaker 2: They need to get their story straight. They need to
- 23:08Speaker 2: get their story straight.
- 23:09Speaker 1: And you're going to blame somebody for something, then.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Have the croof just yeah, just do it.
- 23:18Speaker 1: But print the poster board like everyone does, and gets
- 23:20Speaker 1: in trouble for it. Print the folks forard and get
- 23:26Speaker 1: your asses in trouble, allgreens and bit knit.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Then the girls arrive at dinner. Tamar pulls Gretchen to
- 23:35Speaker 2: talk and ask if she should bring up the Katie
- 23:38Speaker 2: story at dinner. At this point, I was like shit,
- 23:41Speaker 2: Gretchen's out. Gretchen tells her that she already talked to
- 23:45Speaker 2: Katie about it and Katie denied it. Gretchen tells the
- 23:47Speaker 2: Tamar that she believes Katie, and then Katie walks over
- 23:51Speaker 2: to them and tells Tamar that she did not tell
- 23:53Speaker 2: Kiki these things. Tamara is pissed that Gretchen doesn't believe
- 23:56Speaker 2: her and walks back into the dining room. And tells
- 23:58Speaker 2: all the girls, Huh, that's a lot of the moment.
- 24:04Speaker 1: It's a moment, it's a lot.
- 24:06Speaker 2: And at this moment, you're you realize what's going to
- 24:09Speaker 2: happen because you realize, holy shit, Like Tamara thought that
- 24:13Speaker 2: she was bonding with Gretchen by being honest with her
- 24:16Speaker 2: about what's going to come out, and now Gretchen doesn't
- 24:19Speaker 2: believe her. So now that's another friend that's you know,
- 24:23Speaker 2: she's trying to she's already said lost, no love, loss,
- 24:27Speaker 2: But she did say she wanted to talk and try
- 24:29Speaker 2: to rekindle them.
- 24:30Speaker 1: Well, there was, yeah, she was. She was considering. Why
- 24:33Speaker 1: do you think because she likes Tamara because she wants
- 24:35Speaker 1: to stay on the show.
- 24:37Speaker 2: I think because she wants to stay on the show.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, And but that's what it's all about in
- 24:43Speaker 1: our in our world, it's all about resolution until absolution
- 24:48Speaker 1: for the next season or the reunion. But we got
- 24:50Speaker 1: to get there.
- 24:51Speaker 2: What about Shannon then screaming at Katie when she walks
- 24:55Speaker 2: back into the room and Shannon says that Katie has
- 24:57Speaker 2: hurt every person in the group besides Jen. Here's my
- 25:02Speaker 2: problem with this, Like, I don't mind when Shannon gets upset,
- 25:04Speaker 2: but when she screams at that, it loses the plot
- 25:07Speaker 2: For me.
- 25:08Speaker 1: I love it. I can't get enough of it, like
- 25:16Speaker 1: hysteria and like I'm not used to people getting that
- 25:20Speaker 1: mad without punching somebody in the face, So I like
- 25:24Speaker 1: to watch that all go down without the violence. Shannon
- 25:28Speaker 1: gives me what I'm looking for.
- 25:30Speaker 2: Well, then completely off that we're now we're just completely
- 25:33Speaker 2: switching topics, and Gen chimes in. She says that, like Tam,
- 25:37Speaker 2: while we're going through everything, let's talk about the photo.
- 25:41Speaker 2: I'm like, what does one have to do with the
- 25:43Speaker 2: other at this point? Can we save this photo conversation?
- 25:46Speaker 1: No? No, this is this is like you ever see
- 25:50Speaker 1: in wrestling when they all jump in the cage at
- 25:52Speaker 1: the same time and they just start beating the shit
- 25:54Speaker 1: out of each other, the royal rumble.
- 25:57Speaker 2: Yeah, but then TAM's like, I don't care about that.
- 26:03Speaker 1: It's time to leave, Tam. It'll take a little break.
- 26:06Speaker 2: But at this point, Heather get Tam up and walk
- 26:09Speaker 2: her out, be like Tam, I know you're upset. I
- 26:12Speaker 2: love you. This is not gonna end. Well, let's have
- 26:15Speaker 2: this conversation when you're not in this emotional state.
- 26:18Speaker 1: They let it play out, they let it, they.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Let her just dig that fucking hole.
- 26:22Speaker 1: But I have to say I was kind of I've
- 26:26Speaker 1: seen Tamra worse and I was kind of again surprised
- 26:31Speaker 1: that Gina went for her in that moment. And I
- 26:35Speaker 1: feel like everybody's got you know, because Gretchen's around. Well,
- 26:39Speaker 1: if you're gonna go for Tama, you better be damn
- 26:43Speaker 1: well prepared for a fight.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, she goes for her twice. She
- 26:46Speaker 2: says Tama is being rude and that she is sloshed.
- 26:50Speaker 2: And but I wonder when it comes to Gina when
- 26:54Speaker 2: it comes to alcohol, since Gina is sober right of
- 26:57Speaker 2: California sober, if it I don't like to use this word,
- 27:02Speaker 2: but if it like triggers her her, Yes.
- 27:05Speaker 1: No, I don't, I don't. I don't see that, but
- 27:08Speaker 1: I but I think that's a good it's a good
- 27:12Speaker 1: reason for her to have acted out like that towards her.
- 27:17Speaker 2: Yeah, But also I don't know, just it, She's clear.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Everybody's drink's Tama's not the only one drinking.
- 27:25Speaker 2: Tama's not the only one drinking. But then Tamar snaps
- 27:29Speaker 2: at Heather when Heather asks her if she wants some
- 27:31Speaker 2: of her dish. Shannon says she does not know how
- 27:34Speaker 2: many drinks Tamara had, but does not think that the
- 27:37Speaker 2: water Tamar brought into her hotel room earlier was actually water.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Tamar had just told Shannon five hours before this that
- 27:46Speaker 2: she wouldn't see Tama wasted again.
- 27:48Speaker 3: Then the table goes sett Meanwhile, back fast forward.
- 27:56Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Tama was like, listen, I didn't ruvy Gretchen, but
- 28:00Speaker 2: I'm about.
- 28:00Speaker 1: Roofing myself for this dinner. Hey, with friends like Shannon
- 28:08Speaker 1: having her back and making her stop drinking the yellow water.
- 28:13Speaker 2: I mean, the yellow water is probably why maybe she
- 28:16Speaker 2: had a parasite.
- 28:20Speaker 1: Yeah, excuse it's called a point.
- 28:27Speaker 2: Then in the hall, the producer asked Tamar if she's okay,
- 28:30Speaker 2: and Tarma starts crying, and this moment you realize where
- 28:34Speaker 2: Tamar is mentally. She says, I just want to go home.
- 28:38Speaker 1: I felt so bad when she did that.
- 28:40Speaker 2: It's like she's crying. Heather gets up to talk to
- 28:44Speaker 2: Tamar and tells her not to act like that, like
- 28:46Speaker 2: she's not acting like herself. And then Tamar comes at
- 28:49Speaker 2: Heather and tells her to go fuck off and that
- 28:51Speaker 2: she can have Gretchen, And Heather doesn't know why Tamar
- 28:55Speaker 2: is coming after her.
- 28:55Speaker 1: I do, yeah, because she asked her if she wanted
- 28:58Speaker 1: some of her gumbow soup.
- 29:00Speaker 2: Yeah, like you needed to have a bite of eat
- 29:02Speaker 2: to eat, and then Shannon goes. I offered her my water.
- 29:05Speaker 2: I gave her genus water.
- 29:06Speaker 1: When Heather offered Gretchen her gumbo soup, Oh your fucking body, huh,
- 29:15Speaker 1: you get buddy over here, Gretchen, You're gonna have her
- 29:18Speaker 1: have some of your soup?
- 29:19Speaker 2: Now you could go soup you actually have to touch.
- 29:22Speaker 2: It's not soup. Isn't like do you want one of
- 29:24Speaker 2: my chicken fingers?
- 29:26Speaker 1: No, she was like, you want some of my gumbo soup.
- 29:31Speaker 1: And then as blasted as Tamar was, she was like, oh,
- 29:36Speaker 1: you guys are buddies. Now you're sharing soup.
- 29:39Speaker 2: This is where I draw the fucking line.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Yeah, you want you want to be friends, you shoot soup. Shaer,
- 29:45Speaker 1: go ahead.
- 29:47Speaker 2: Soup share you you have.
- 29:52Speaker 1: Curiously, and then that's what pissed her off. And as
- 29:54Speaker 1: she was walking out, she's like, you can have Gretchen. Yeah,
- 29:58Speaker 1: but she literally had actually had to say, this is
- 30:02Speaker 1: Tamra hey grutching, you want some soup, like you fucking doing?
- 30:11Speaker 2: That was not the time. Then they're still sitting at dinner.
- 30:16Speaker 2: Then it's like, nobody goes with Tamar. Tamar's down in
- 30:18Speaker 2: the lobby. I think it's probably like a two story restaurant.
- 30:21Speaker 2: She asked, should I get an uber? And then the
- 30:28Speaker 2: girls all see Tamar's story, saying this was what I
- 30:32Speaker 2: want to read it word nothing.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Like somebody running out after a camera.
- 30:35Speaker 2: Though no, none.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Heather did, but she can't.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Make it downstairs. She didn't want to miss the dessert. Well,
- 30:49Speaker 2: but then the girls see Tameras ends the story while
- 30:51Speaker 2: they're all sitting there, saying it was a long run.
- 30:54Speaker 2: When life gives you real problems. This reality ship doesn't
- 30:57Speaker 2: make sense. The girls wonder what this means. Is she
- 31:00Speaker 2: quitting the show? I mean, honestly, I'm shocked Haam was
- 31:04Speaker 2: able to do that, To write that up on her
- 31:06Speaker 2: phone and post that.
- 31:08Speaker 1: That's a saying she didn't.
- 31:11Speaker 2: No, I'm saying she did. Well, clearly she did. But
- 31:14Speaker 2: I mean if I was in that state, I don't
- 31:16Speaker 2: know that I would have been able to be posting
- 31:18Speaker 2: instant stories, telling sending texts for people to fuck off.
- 31:21Speaker 2: I'd probably be passed out in the back of that uber.
- 31:25Speaker 2: She gave me to quit the next.
- 31:31Speaker 1: With the last bit she had left. You know, Tamar,
- 31:34Speaker 1: I'll always have the last word.
- 31:35Speaker 2: Yeah, well she did, and so she leaves us on
- 31:38Speaker 2: a cliffhanger. I know at this point, I was like,
- 31:42Speaker 2: probably in the hospital room, I don't know, but I
- 31:44Speaker 2: was still somehow looking at into stories and I saw
- 31:47Speaker 2: that and I'm like, holy shit, this can't be happening.
- 31:50Speaker 2: And I'm like I had to get on the horn
- 31:53Speaker 2: harassing tam or the next day, I'm like, did you
- 31:56Speaker 2: mean to post that? Were you hacked? What's going on?
- 31:59Speaker 2: You're not quick? She's like, I'm quitting. I'm like, and
- 32:02Speaker 2: I gave her a big, big tongue.
- 32:05Speaker 1: Yes you did. And I remember speaking to her about that,
- 32:08Speaker 1: and you gave her the strength to stay.
- 32:13Speaker 2: I'm glad that she.
- 32:14Speaker 1: Had round up in the end. It works out for
- 32:18Speaker 1: her in the end.
- 32:19Speaker 2: Let's just say that, well, let's just hope that, let's
- 32:21Speaker 2: hope that it gets better because it's been I mean,
- 32:23Speaker 2: I feel like we won't see Tamer next episode.
- 32:25Speaker 1: As my guess, no, no, no, there's a little bit
- 32:30Speaker 1: of a lapse.
- 32:31Speaker 2: I think we have a lapse. I think this is
- 32:34Speaker 2: where we get to the more. Next week, we'll find
- 32:36Speaker 2: out more about Katie, and then then I think we
- 32:40Speaker 2: have a lapse in Katie.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Well, how many episodes does this trip?
- 32:47Speaker 2: I don't know. Do you think that I'm wrong?
- 32:50Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. I think something big happens this next episode.
- 32:53Speaker 2: Oh so you think Tamor will be in the next episode.
- 32:57Speaker 1: I don't know if she'll be in it, but I
- 33:00Speaker 1: talk about clearly it's a very, very pivotal moment for
- 33:03Speaker 1: the season.
- 33:05Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well, I like it.
- 33:09Speaker 1: I like it.
- 33:09Speaker 2: It was a hard episode to watch. It made me sad,
- 33:14Speaker 2: but I feel like everybody's doing their part. I mean
- 33:17Speaker 2: when Emma's trying to trying to get the troops together
- 33:22Speaker 2: to all have like some sort of cohesive conversation. Finally
- 33:26Speaker 2: she was just like, I got to give up on
- 33:27Speaker 2: this shit. I can't do it.
- 33:29Speaker 1: I love I like the aesthetics of the trip. I
- 33:33Speaker 1: like there's a lot going on where they went. You know,
- 33:37Speaker 1: it's not boring.
- 33:38Speaker 2: They had a lot of beignets. Everybody had Beignet's, the
- 33:41Speaker 2: big pants, the puppy parade.
- 33:46Speaker 1: I love that shit. They had their fair share of
- 33:49Speaker 1: fights and friendships and a lot getting resolved. Kudos, girls,
- 33:55Speaker 1: good job.
- 33:56Speaker 2: Who do you think you would naturally get along with
- 33:58Speaker 2: best in that group? You can't say Tamra.
- 34:02Speaker 1: Okay, So if I can't say Tamra, I like Gina
- 34:10Speaker 1: and Emily's friendship. But I don't know that there's a
- 34:12Speaker 1: lot of room for anyone else in it.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Correct.
- 34:16Speaker 1: They they're very tight knit. They go to the bathroom together,
- 34:19Speaker 1: they have their conversations together, they do all their things together.
- 34:24Speaker 1: So then Heather, there's who's left Heather, Shannon.
- 34:28Speaker 2: Jen, Heather, Shannon, Jen, and Katie.
- 34:33Speaker 1: Katie and Gretchen And for sure, for sure Gretchen and Katie.
- 34:36Speaker 1: I'd be best friends with them. I would connect myself.
- 34:44Speaker 1: I would jump on that friendship so quick. I probably
- 34:48Speaker 1: wouldn't last an hour with either one of them. No,
- 34:52Speaker 1: I don't know, you know it would be between Shannon
- 34:56Speaker 1: and Heather.
- 34:58Speaker 2: I think i'd go with Heather. Yeah, I'd both of them.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Heather's funny. I'd have to get to know both of
- 35:07Speaker 1: them a little better. Because I've spent more time with
- 35:09Speaker 1: Shannon at times. We've done some press things together. I
- 35:13Speaker 1: would have to spend more time with Heather to give
- 35:15Speaker 1: you an answer on that.
- 35:16Speaker 2: Maybe we need to have a hangout me you, Heather
- 35:19Speaker 2: and Shannon and say, listen, guys, we're auditioning you to
- 35:22Speaker 2: see who would we would be closest with.
- 35:24Speaker 1: Who I'd let you sit at my lunch table? Okay,
- 35:27Speaker 1: which one I'd let sit at my lunch table?
- 35:28Speaker 2: All right?
- 35:29Speaker 1: So I let always let the underdogs sit at my
- 35:32Speaker 1: lunch table.
- 35:33Speaker 3: You do always did in high school.
- 35:38Speaker 1: This is no one said alone, Teddy.
- 35:42Speaker 2: You know what they sit alone tonight?
- 35:45Speaker 1: Huh?
- 35:45Speaker 2: They left Tamra alone tonight. They did could get our
- 35:48Speaker 2: own uber.
- 35:49Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you what would you have done
- 35:51Speaker 1: if you were there? How would you have handled that?
- 35:53Speaker 1: Would you stand behind Tamar and say, fuck you, that's
- 35:57Speaker 1: my friend, don't talk to her like that? Like? What
- 35:59Speaker 1: would you have done?
- 36:01Speaker 2: I think I probably would have if I was in
- 36:03Speaker 2: the right state of mind, I think I probably would
- 36:06Speaker 2: have been like you, guys, this is where it's too
- 36:08Speaker 2: fucking much. Let's wait and get the actual information. I
- 36:12Speaker 2: want to see the proof. I also want to know
- 36:13Speaker 2: who these two reputable people are other than Kiki Monique
- 36:20Speaker 2: that are saying it. And let's go for it. Let's
- 36:23Speaker 2: go from there. We can't accomplish any goals here. We
- 36:26Speaker 2: could have maybe accomplished things when it came to Jin
- 36:29Speaker 2: and Tamra had she been in a place, But yeah,
- 36:31Speaker 2: a million percent. I would have when I saw Tamra
- 36:33Speaker 2: come in and her eye makeups all smudged over on
- 36:36Speaker 2: the side, she's not looking like herself, and she's clearly
- 36:40Speaker 2: not doing well, I think I'd be like, you know what,
- 36:42Speaker 2: tam let's go back and watch a movie. Now's not
- 36:45Speaker 2: the time, because I don't think.
- 36:47Speaker 1: Any production wouldn't have let you do that.
- 36:49Speaker 2: I think they would have. I think they would have
- 36:52Speaker 2: after the first time when she wasn't making sense. If
- 36:55Speaker 2: I said, and then they would film us in our room.
- 37:00Speaker 1: Talking about the world, they would have handcuffed you to
- 37:03Speaker 1: the chair and said, let's let's let you make a
- 37:07Speaker 1: slop of yourselves. Let's go.
- 37:09Speaker 2: If tarmor would have openly at that moment said I'm
- 37:12Speaker 2: on xanax and alcohol.
- 37:14Speaker 1: Oh, then it's a liability that's different.
- 37:16Speaker 2: And they would have let her walk out with me.
- 37:18Speaker 2: So if I would have been like Tarmora, honestly, I
- 37:21Speaker 2: know that you're struggling, but what's going on and she
- 37:23Speaker 2: would have told me the truth in that moment and said, like,
- 37:28Speaker 2: you know, I'm overserved and whatever capacity I'm in, and
- 37:32Speaker 2: then I would have gone and we could have filmed
- 37:34Speaker 2: talking about it all when she sobered up a little
- 37:37Speaker 2: bit by the time we got back to the hotel
- 37:38Speaker 2: from the Uber. Yeah, okay, and then we would have
- 37:41Speaker 2: gotten the full side. But now we're confused. Now now
- 37:45Speaker 2: it's just everybody against tam and I do think it'll
- 37:49Speaker 2: switch because there's a bunch of fires in the group.
- 37:54Speaker 1: Well we're going to find out.
- 37:55Speaker 2: Well, thank you Dolores for another great episode. If appreciate you.
- 38:01Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
- 38:02Speaker 3: And how are you?
- 38:03Speaker 2: And I don't know if I'm going to be doing
- 38:05Speaker 2: Miami with Dolores or with Tama this week. It depends
- 38:09Speaker 2: when it drops, because I think Tamara might be out
- 38:12Speaker 2: of town.
- 38:13Speaker 1: But I where by this week, I'm getting my hands done.
- 38:18Speaker 1: Tomorrow you are maybe on skin tightening, fat transfer and
- 38:23Speaker 1: skin tightening.
- 38:24Speaker 2: That's a big day, yeah, and then.
- 38:27Speaker 1: I'm flying home the next day.
- 38:31Speaker 2: That sounds like a good plan.
- 38:35Speaker 1: Yeah, I have.
- 38:37Speaker 2: Well, we celebrated my son's birthday early and then I
- 38:41Speaker 2: asked him, I go, what do you want to do
- 38:42Speaker 2: on your actual birthday, and he goes, I'd like to
- 38:45Speaker 2: get a massage.
- 38:47Speaker 1: What there's some good places that you could take them.
- 38:52Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay, we'll go get a massage. Don't
- 38:56Speaker 2: twist my arm. But I mean, I don't know if
- 38:59Speaker 2: we're going to get it. Half Beefeet down there, so sure.
- 39:01Speaker 1: Of what I mean? Okay, get okay, you are eleven,
- 39:11Speaker 1: now it's time.
- 39:16Speaker 2: Oh my god. All right, guys, thanks for tuning in.
- 39:19Speaker 2: Before we'll get ourselves in any more trouble.
- 39:21Speaker 1: We got a guy. Bye,