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90 Day Round Up: B90 Episode 17 Welcome to Your Destination; SL Episode 9, The Act of Monkeybarring · 90 Day Book Club

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SPEAKER_00: The 90 Day Book Club is meant for entertainment purposes only and contains adult language.
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SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome to the 90 Day Book Club.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm your host.
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SPEAKER_00: My name is Jen.
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SPEAKER_00: I write romance as my day job, and in my spare time, I talk to you guys about reality TV.
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SPEAKER_00: This week I'm doing a combination episode of Before the 90 Days, season eight, episode 17.
0:36
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to your destination.
0:39
SPEAKER_00: And the Single Life Season 5, Episode 9, The Art of Monkey Barring.
0:48
SPEAKER_00: At the end of the show, as always, we will scrub our brains with a little chat about books.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna start off uh with Laura and Birkan.
0:58
SPEAKER_00: I think I always start off with Laura and Birkan whenever it's their week.
1:03
SPEAKER_00: So Birkan has just found out through a conversation with Michael that Michael is not, in fact, in love with Laura, it seems, but she put a move on him and he turned her down.
1:20
SPEAKER_00: So Biercon has gone to his favorite park bench by the harbor to read Nietzsche.
1:26
SPEAKER_00: No, he's not reading Nietzsche this time.
1:28
SPEAKER_00: He's just sitting there, sulking, alone, thinking, thinking of all the sick burns he wants to say to Laura.
1:37
SPEAKER_00: In his talking head, Birkon says, um, well, he sort of recaps the conversation he had with Michael, where Michael contradicted everything.
1:45
SPEAKER_00: Laura has been letting Birkon believe.
1:49
SPEAKER_00: So Birkon assumed Michael was in love with Laura.
1:53
SPEAKER_00: Michael told Birkon while they were playing pool that no, Laura made a move on me, and I told her I could not reciprocate.
1:59
SPEAKER_00: So Birkon is understandably upset.
2:04
SPEAKER_00: He says in his talking head, she let me believe Michael was the one who made a move and she made the move.
2:12
SPEAKER_00: I always thought Michael had feelings for Laura, and I see that she was the one who wanted to be more than friends.
2:21
SPEAKER_00: He says, How do I know she doesn't still feel that way now?
2:24
SPEAKER_00: Maybe this is not her first lie.
2:26
SPEAKER_00: Maybe there are more.
2:28
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's all a lie.
2:32
SPEAKER_00: So Laura walks up and joins him on the pen on the bench at the harbor.
2:36
SPEAKER_00: She says, How is your day?
2:38
SPEAKER_00: Meaning his day that Bjerkon spent with Michael.
2:42
SPEAKER_00: Bjerkon in his usual flat delivery says, I enjoyed it.
2:49
SPEAKER_00: She says, Did you really?
2:51
SPEAKER_00: He says, Yeah, he's a good guy.
2:53
SPEAKER_00: Laura seems relieved.
2:55
SPEAKER_00: She says, I've been saying that.
2:57
SPEAKER_00: And then Birkon says, but it turns out you are not so good.
3:02
SPEAKER_00: The way he turns the conversation around on her does not prepare her for what's coming.
3:09
SPEAKER_00: I really do think this man has watched a lot of mobster movies.
3:13
SPEAKER_00: He handles this conversation with a almost uh shocking, unsettling amount of calm.
3:22
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, What did I do?
3:24
SPEAKER_00: And Birkan says, He told me you made a move on him.
3:28
SPEAKER_00: Laura's mouth is just hanging open, like she never saw this coming.
3:33
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, I didn't tell you what happened because there's literally nothing to tell.
3:38
SPEAKER_00: He says, You made me think Michael is the enemy.
3:41
SPEAKER_00: And she says, You thought that on your own.
3:45
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I have a thought here.
3:48
SPEAKER_00: Laura dropped hints and anecdotes along the way about Michael that made Birkon think that Michael was a threat.
3:58
SPEAKER_00: She probably talked about him a lot.
4:02
SPEAKER_00: And that is what sprouted the seed in Birkan's mind.
4:05
SPEAKER_00: Laura tries to explain, it was almost a year ago.
4:08
SPEAKER_00: I didn't think I need to tell you everything that happened.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: Birkon says it wasn't a little thing.
4:15
SPEAKER_00: So then finally, Laura explains in our talking head about a year into our friendship.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, we learned last week that they've only known each other for a year and a half.
4:26
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, she says, almost a year into our friendship.
4:30
SPEAKER_00: So, like six months ago?
4:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to figure out this timeline.
4:35
SPEAKER_00: They were watching TV and they're both buzzed.
4:38
SPEAKER_00: They were laying on top of each other, whatever that means.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: So cuddling on the couch, and she tried to kiss him and he stopped me and shut it down.
4:45
SPEAKER_00: She says, We never talked about it afterwards.
4:49
SPEAKER_00: I never told Birkon because I knew he would never be okay with Michael and me staying friends.
4:56
SPEAKER_00: A thought here.
4:57
SPEAKER_00: Friends don't cuddle on the couch.
5:00
SPEAKER_00: I need more information about the cuddling.
5:02
SPEAKER_00: I want to know who initiated it.
5:05
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so Birkon now says, I don't trust you.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: That means you had feelings for him.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: You wanted something you couldn't have.
5:13
SPEAKER_00: Maybe you'll get drunk and try to kiss him again.
5:16
SPEAKER_00: He's still in your life, and you kept this from me as a secret.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: Laura's like, what do you want me to say?
5:22
SPEAKER_00: And Birkon says, Maybe sorry.
5:25
SPEAKER_00: I was drunk and I tried and he refused.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: But we are still friends.
5:30
SPEAKER_00: That was hard.
5:32
SPEAKER_00: No.
5:33
SPEAKER_00: You didn't want to say it.
5:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to change my country.
5:37
SPEAKER_00: Meaning he's trying to move to the US.
5:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to make plans for our future, but now I'm thinking, doubt, I'm doubting maybe I should.
5:46
SPEAKER_00: I think Virkan is way smarter than Laura gives him credit for.
5:52
SPEAKER_00: He smells something rotten, and now all of us do too.
5:56
SPEAKER_00: Because as much as I wanted to like Laura, she really did manipulate this whole narrative about Michael and allowed him to think and allowed all of us watching the show to think that Michael was a threat to the relationship.
6:14
SPEAKER_00: She led us there.
6:17
SPEAKER_00: I think she likes the fact that Birkon got angry whenever she talked about Michael.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: She liked the idea or the delusion that two men were in love with her.
6:33
SPEAKER_00: And who wouldn't, honestly.
6:34
SPEAKER_00: But now I'm thinking she's been playing with both of their feelings.
6:39
SPEAKER_00: She's been letting Birkon think Michael's a threat.
6:41
SPEAKER_00: She's been letting Michael think Birkan is some Rasputin type character who digmatized her and who is a bad guy who has her like in a thrall and that she needs rescuing by her white knight.
6:56
SPEAKER_00: And now it's all blowing up in her face.
7:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm not feeling so bad for her about all this blowing up in her face.
7:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, because now I think she's actually using both of them to get what she wants emotionally.
7:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh but in her talking head, she says, He's kept a lot of secrets from me and I'm still here.
7:17
SPEAKER_00: Another thought.
7:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
7:20
SPEAKER_00: But BeerCon's secrets came out because he willingly told you he didn't get caught in a lie, as I recall.
7:29
SPEAKER_00: Also, Laura, you should have ended things as soon as you found out that he was wanting to go to the US to flee his debt.
7:36
SPEAKER_00: Because that's kind of a low life move.
7:40
SPEAKER_00: So the fact that you're still here and still speaking to him doesn't exactly speak that highly of you.
7:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, Bjerkon says, You're missing all the points.
7:48
SPEAKER_00: I suspected something was going on between you and Michael.
7:50
SPEAKER_00: She interrupts him.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: Nothing is going on.
7:53
SPEAKER_00: Bjirkhan says, We just shut up and listen to me.
7:57
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't like it when anyone tells somebody to shut up.
8:00
SPEAKER_00: I teach my kids it's not nice to say shut up.
8:02
SPEAKER_00: We don't do that here.
8:04
SPEAKER_00: But she it's true she's not listening.
8:06
SPEAKER_00: She's not getting the point.
8:08
SPEAKER_00: But this is just blows everything up.
8:10
SPEAKER_00: And she gets upset and says, Don't tell me to shut up.
8:15
SPEAKER_00: Um Bjergon says, just admit you're wrong or don't talk.
8:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, I really don't like his behavior right now.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: So I'm not advocating this just because I've turned a corner on Laura.
8:28
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, This is actually kind of amazing what happens here.
8:33
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, maybe when you grow up a little bit, you learn to communicate a little better.
8:37
SPEAKER_00: And then Birkan says, You wanted a young husband, deal with it.
8:45
SPEAKER_00: Yo, what?
8:48
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I appreciate a sick burn, as my kids say, and that was that was pretty sick.
8:56
SPEAKER_00: But he says, I wish we had never met.
8:59
SPEAKER_00: Laura's like, you wish we never met?
9:02
SPEAKER_00: Us, lady, are you dumb?
9:06
SPEAKER_00: He says, Yeah, I can't trust you.
9:08
SPEAKER_00: She says, Well, that's fine.
9:09
SPEAKER_00: I'll get back on a plane and leave.
9:11
SPEAKER_00: You cross the line.
9:12
SPEAKER_00: I have nothing left to say to you.
9:14
SPEAKER_00: And she flounces away.
9:17
SPEAKER_00: I really think Laura has thought this whole time she was gonna get a good edit here, and she's really not.
9:26
SPEAKER_00: I turned a corner so hard and so unexpectedly on this girl.
9:31
SPEAKER_00: I remember saying in the beginning, uh, I think she would be a friend.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: Uh I if I knew her in real life, and now I do not think so.
9:40
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, she goes to Michael's hotel room to complain, I guess.
9:45
SPEAKER_00: She tells him, Thanks for that.
9:46
SPEAKER_00: I partly blame you for everything that happens.
9:50
SPEAKER_00: Michael says, I don't know what was said between you and him.
9:53
SPEAKER_00: She says, I'm super curious.
9:55
SPEAKER_00: What was going through your head telling him I hit on you?
9:58
SPEAKER_00: We never did anything, and he's pissed.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: I didn't tell him.
10:02
SPEAKER_00: Why did you do it?
10:03
SPEAKER_00: She is pissed, talking to Michael.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: Michael explains that he brought it up because Bjerkon was under the impression that I was in love with you.
10:13
SPEAKER_00: I needed him to understand that I said no and that you were the one who asked.
10:19
SPEAKER_00: Michael says, Bjerk got upset, and I tried to assure him that this happened before you met him.
10:26
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, It feels like you are trying to sabotage our relationship.
10:32
SPEAKER_00: And Michael says, in two and a half weeks, you could not convince him that I was not a threat.
10:39
SPEAKER_00: Good point.
10:40
SPEAKER_00: Michael says, I don't know why he insists that I'm in love with you.
10:45
SPEAKER_00: And Laura says, he's not the only person who thinks that.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: Huh.
10:51
SPEAKER_00: And then Michael says, There's layers there.
10:53
SPEAKER_00: It's not something I want to happen.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: And I'm leaning into my TV.
10:58
SPEAKER_00: What do you mean there are layers there?
11:02
SPEAKER_00: Michael, tell us more about the layers.
11:06
SPEAKER_00: Michael says to her, the opposite of love is not anger, it's apathy.
11:11
SPEAKER_00: So there is still love there because Beercon's angry.
11:16
SPEAKER_00: I don't get this philosophy.
11:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, those sound like nice words, but there's no love between Laura and Beercon.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: We haven't really seen it.
11:27
SPEAKER_00: She backed, he backed her up against the wall at one time and made out with her.
11:31
SPEAKER_00: And uh, we haven't really seen that since that episode early on.
11:39
SPEAKER_00: Laura definitely had an idea in her head of what Beercon was like in person, and he turned out to be so very different.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: And she also did for him.
11:51
SPEAKER_00: In her talking head, Laura says that she thinks Michael still has feelings for her, but Bircon is the person I need in my life.
11:59
SPEAKER_00: I need to fix this, but I don't know how.
12:04
SPEAKER_00: Michael says, Do you acknowledge how he feels no matter if he's right or wrong?
12:09
SPEAKER_00: At the end of the day, is this relationship more important than the argument?
12:13
SPEAKER_00: Wow, that is also a really good point.
12:16
SPEAKER_00: So she decides to give him a call to see if she can start fixing everything.
12:21
SPEAKER_00: She goes down to the lobby of the hotel.
12:24
SPEAKER_00: Björkan answers the phone, yeah.
12:28
SPEAKER_00: She says, How are you?
12:30
SPEAKER_00: Bjerk says, I'm good.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: He sounds so unaffected.
12:35
SPEAKER_00: She says, Can we talk?
12:36
SPEAKER_00: He says, Uh-uh, not today.
12:39
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, Well, am I not supposed to come back to the apartment?
12:42
SPEAKER_00: And Bjerkon says, just give me that space.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: So she decides to get another room.
12:49
SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Yep, okay, bye.
12:53
SPEAKER_00: What?
12:55
SPEAKER_00: I think this is the apathy that Michael was talking about.
13:00
SPEAKER_00: Uh no, I do not like Birkan kicking her out of the apartment.
13:03
SPEAKER_00: And honestly, say no, sir, go couch surf with somebody else because this is the Airbnb that I paid for.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: Moving on to Josh and Elise.
13:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, Elise comes out of the bedroom and apologizes.
13:22
SPEAKER_00: She's sorry she embarrassed him and embarrassed herself.
13:26
SPEAKER_00: Josh says, it never should have happened.
13:29
SPEAKER_00: If this becomes a regular thing, fuck that I'm out.
13:32
SPEAKER_00: Now, the first time I heard this, it sounded like he was breaking up with her then and there.
13:36
SPEAKER_00: But then I went back and listened a couple of times really closely and with the subtitles on, and he's saying, if it becomes a regular thing, fuck that I'm out.
13:44
SPEAKER_00: So he's not quite breaking up with her, but he is giving her a warning.
13:50
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, I think that would have been a deer deal breaker for me.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm with Chris on this one.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: But so Josh is not really clear with her where he stands on the status of their relationship, but it's pretty clear from his body language, he's rethinking everything.
14:05
SPEAKER_00: He's hurt, he is confused.
14:07
SPEAKER_00: Elise continues to apologize.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm so so sorry.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh, can we still go to the zoo?
14:16
SPEAKER_00: I laughed out loud.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: Like a kid.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, mommy.
14:21
SPEAKER_00: Can we still go to the zoo though?
14:24
SPEAKER_00: And the answer is yes.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: At the zoo, we get a close-up.
14:28
SPEAKER_00: We get up close and personal with koalas and giraffes.
14:32
SPEAKER_00: Did you know koalas carry chlamydia?
14:35
SPEAKER_00: I think I did know that at one time, but I forgot.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: Uh Elise is confused at the zoo and says it's so weird you're not touching me.
14:43
SPEAKER_00: Like not holding hands or walking around.
14:48
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so her sundress is actually really beautiful in this scene.
14:52
SPEAKER_00: It's like this long white print maxi dress with blue flowers on it.
14:57
SPEAKER_00: For Elise standards, it's pretty modest, but it's super pretty on her.
15:02
SPEAKER_00: But she's reaching for his hand.
15:05
SPEAKER_00: He's not holding her hand.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: So she pulls him aside and says she wants to know where his head is at.
15:14
SPEAKER_00: He says her behavior last night is something that would normally put him off, but he is falling in love with her.
15:22
SPEAKER_00: But that outburst made him really wary of introducing her to other areas of his life.
15:28
SPEAKER_00: And I take that to mean he's wary to introduce her to his son, as he should be, because nothing is healthy about this relationship.
15:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, once again, she owns what she did, but she also says, I was so triggered that I didn't know you were living with Nat.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: No, but now you've known for several days, it seems.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: You were triggered after finding out Nat was on the boat when he crashed it before you came, before you arrived.
16:00
SPEAKER_00: You're triggered because Nat keeps coming up in every scenario.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: You're triggered because he texts Nat all the time, apparently.
16:09
SPEAKER_00: Is there a lot of stuff that needs explaining?
16:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but she needs to learn to be an unemotional, detached investigator and stop lashing out.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: Um she admits that she's probably bringing her baggage from past relationships into this one, and it's unfair to Josh.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: That might be the most healthy thing I've heard her say yet.
16:35
SPEAKER_00: And once again, he says, I am falling in love with you.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: They sweep it under the rug, and Elise books a romantic getaway to the Blue Mountains.
16:46
SPEAKER_00: This cabin is completely awesome.
16:51
SPEAKER_00: He says, I wouldn't say all is forgiven, but she's trying, and that's a good start.
16:56
SPEAKER_00: So she makes she tries to make him penne pasta dinner.
17:00
SPEAKER_00: She says, I never use the kitchen in my house, so the fact that I'm doing this for you means I really like you.
17:08
SPEAKER_00: Um I guess she's making a salad and she opens a packet of dressing and it goes everywhere in her mouth and um cue the jokes about cum shots.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so she's literally throwing pasta at the wall to see if it's done.
17:29
SPEAKER_00: Spaghetti.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: That's how spaghetti works.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: Not penne.
17:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I I am in so much pain watching her cook.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: She's never drained pasta before.
17:44
SPEAKER_00: But uh, when it's all said and done, the penne turns out horribly, apparently.
17:49
SPEAKER_00: Josh says, I'm not picky.
17:51
SPEAKER_00: It was the most fun I've had at dinner.
17:52
SPEAKER_00: I left my head off.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh, later in the hot tub, they're having champagne, and Elise asks, Have I made it up to you enough that you can let me into your world?
18:04
SPEAKER_00: Meaning his family.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, in his talking head, Josh says, I find it endearing, but with all the fighting, I have my doubts.
18:13
SPEAKER_00: Well, let's move on to Forrest and Sheena.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: These two are at the beach getting wrapped up in banana leaves while fully dressed.
18:26
SPEAKER_00: They are fully clothed, alone at the beach, getting wrapped in banana leaves.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: How is this gonna do anything for your skin if you are fully clothed?
18:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't understand how this is gonna de-stress you or do anything for you, but so they're talking about the idea of Forrest moving to the Philippines.
18:49
SPEAKER_00: Forrest says maybe I could get a job and start working here.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: Sheena says, I've been praying for you to stay here.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: I can help you find a job, and if not, I can find a better one.
19:02
SPEAKER_00: It sounds like Sheena's been thinking about this for a while.
19:06
SPEAKER_00: In his talking head, Forrest says, at this point, living in the Philippines is the best option.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: I get to be with Sheena faster.
19:13
SPEAKER_00: She's always encouraged me to try to be my best self and do things out of my bounds.
19:18
SPEAKER_00: It's a big gamble, but thinking about being without her rips my heart out and rips out my soul.
19:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, he's expecting a big blow-up with Molly.
19:31
SPEAKER_00: Well, he already texted Molly and says, and he told her that they met with an immigration lawyer and said that he won't qualify to apply for a visa.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, they show us a screenshot of Molly texting back, what are you going to do?
19:44
SPEAKER_00: And he replies, I don't know.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: She says, What are you thinking?
19:47
SPEAKER_00: Forrest, hello, answer me.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, she's already.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: She's already on 11, waiting for this conversation to happen in person.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: So they're on the way back to the city, and Sheena is rather catty when she's talking about Molly and says she's glad Molly had time away from them to sit in her bad and sour mood.
20:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so they cut to Molly, ranting at Dev, saying he didn't do anything right at all.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: For the last few days, we haven't heard anything from them.
20:23
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to expect when they get back from their romantic vacation.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: I mean, isn't that why they came here?
20:30
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, Forrest and Sheena are a couple.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, they're flying out tomorrow, and Dev and Molly are still not sure what Forrest is planning.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, Forrest and Sheena pull up in the Uber, walk up, say hi.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: So they go into this little cafe to talk, and there are these dancers, like traditional dancers, doing this um dance with their with these people moving like bamboo around by their feet.
21:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, Sheena explains that this is like this kind of dancing was originally a punishment that happened during the Spanish colonization.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: So you had to dance and not get your feet injured by the bamboo.
21:21
SPEAKER_00: The learning channel.
21:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, so this conversation in the cafe is full of awkward silences.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: So uh Molly says, fill me in.
21:31
SPEAKER_00: What happened while you guys are gone?
21:33
SPEAKER_00: She wants the details.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: Four says we bonded more ways than one.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: Molly says, You had sex, didn't you?
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Four says, Yeah, you know we did.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: And Molly says, about time.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I this is a very uncomfortable conversation.
21:50
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, and Molly's talking head, she says, I'm happy my son finally lost his virginity.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: Nookie, nookie, nookie, bang, bang, bang.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I hate this so much.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Much I need her to stop.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: Molly says to uh Forrest, I'm glad you guys are both divergenized now.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, it's a sad thing.
22:10
SPEAKER_00: We have to leave tomorrow.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: Are there arrangements being made to get you two to the United States?
22:18
SPEAKER_00: Forrest says, We talked a lot yesterday.
22:21
SPEAKER_00: With the K1 visa, I found out being on disability, I don't make enough money.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: So Sheena and I have decided I'm gonna stay here and live in the Philippines.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm tired of being alone.
22:32
SPEAKER_00: As expected, Molly Plotz's.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: Forrest says, I didn't expect to stay long term.
22:40
SPEAKER_00: And Molly says, Bullshit.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: Sheena says, This is our choice.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: And Molly looks at her and says, What is that shit coming out of your mouth?
22:50
SPEAKER_00: She has got full fight face on now.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: And now she just gets super mean, turns to Forest and says, Where's your list of pros and cons?
23:03
SPEAKER_00: Was it in between the and they bleep her out, but I think she says, Fucking.
23:08
SPEAKER_00: It's incredibly rude.
23:10
SPEAKER_00: Sheena says, Excuse me, you have rude things you want to say.
23:14
SPEAKER_00: I have things I want to say.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: I have him, he has me.
23:17
SPEAKER_00: I want you to trust your son for once in a while.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: Molly pounds the table and says, I trust my son.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: I don't trust you.
23:27
SPEAKER_00: And Sheena, of course, cannot handle stress, so she walks off.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: Moving on to Lisa and Daniel.
23:36
SPEAKER_00: Oh, what even what have even to say?
23:40
SPEAKER_00: Apparently, all is fine now in their relationship now that she's been cleansed by the priest, the oracle, chief priest.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: Remember how upset he was about the lesbianism?
23:53
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember his head almost like popping off of his shoulders and his eyes getting real big because he was like so upset and so super upset about the fact that she's still legally married and that him sleeping with her is like um a sin and whatever.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: Anywho, now they're in bed on the last day of her trip, and he's asking for uh more sex, more sex one more time before she leaves.
24:19
SPEAKER_00: Ew.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: Lisa says there's still one thing you didn't do that you promised to do.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: You guys you guys already know where this is going, right?
24:31
SPEAKER_00: Oral sex.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: Daniel sort of laughs about it and says, Yeah, you've been hammering on about that.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: Lisa says, There's only a few things I've asked of you.
24:40
SPEAKER_00: That's major for me.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: Daniel says in his talking head, I've never tried it before.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how to do it.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: Women have been doing this for her, but I am not a woman.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: I have my dick.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, so he says, When we're married, I'll make it up to you.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: So Lisa says in her talking head, they've been together three weeks, more than half that time was spent fighting and then making up for all those lies.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: And she says, Everything's done and we're at a happy point.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: I just want to stay here with Daniel.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, so in the hotel room, Daniel says, I wanted to marry you while you were here.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: You have to make an appointment for how to get me back to America, get me to America.
25:19
SPEAKER_00: Lisa says, Well, my first step is to go back to work and then talk to an immigration lawyer, which will get you to America faster.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: And you do know I can't keep sending as much money as I have been, as much of Juno's money.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: She says, at this point, every penny has to go to immigration lawyer.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: I can't even spend money anymore.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: I'm done.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: And Daniel is very calm, considering this is a bomb that's been dropped on him.
25:50
SPEAKER_00: He says, That's fine, but you know how hard Nigeria is.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: I may have to call and ask for assistance.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh Lisa says, Um, try not to, because I have to save money to get you to America.
26:02
SPEAKER_00: And Daniel says, There's no problem with that.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: I have you.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh, in his talking head, Daniel says, I'm not getting married because of the money.
26:11
SPEAKER_00: She is the one for me.
26:14
SPEAKER_00: He puts on this crazy t-shirt that says, I love my wife, so please stay away from me.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, but at the airport, he is legit crying.
26:24
SPEAKER_00: Like, it these are not visine tears.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: Give this man an Oscar.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, Daniel says, I fear I will not see her again.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: She might change her mind.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: Well, oh, oh my guy, she's definitely gonna get distracted as soon as she gets back to the US.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Moving on to Jovon and Anilyn.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so Javon hates his wife, right?
26:50
SPEAKER_00: Like he doesn't even like her.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, but anyway, they're at this theme park.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: They're doing the roller coasters, they're doing the bumper cars.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: Why is he not sitting with her in a roller coaster?
27:04
SPEAKER_00: I want to know.
27:05
SPEAKER_00: Is he too tall?
27:06
SPEAKER_00: Did they have to put him in the back?
27:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
27:09
SPEAKER_00: So we find out that they are um they're getting along, and right now they're planning to renew their vows um at this party.
27:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, she says, since we never met in person before, it's like a second wedding to me.
27:24
SPEAKER_00: Last time we didn't get to touch each other.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: I've been dreaming about this, and now it's happening, and I can't wait.
27:30
SPEAKER_00: So they're shopping for jewelry, and uh, as you can probably predict, it does not go well.
27:40
SPEAKER_00: So they have a shared talking head where they're discussing the ring shopping.
27:45
SPEAKER_00: Annalise is explaining it's important to me to have a symbol of our love.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: Javon says, You need a ring to do that.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: And she's explaining, you know, if the ring symbolizes that she's married, so that other men, you know, don't approach her, you know, with romantic intentions.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: Javon says, they can have you.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: I hate jokes like this.
28:08
SPEAKER_00: Please don't tell the shop people at the jewelry store.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: Don't tell them you married online.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: It's super weird to most people.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: Annalyn says, You sent me money and I bought a ring that was under$100.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: It turned my finger green.
28:22
SPEAKER_00: Um, anyway, so she picks out a ring that's$268.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: And of course, he flinches at that, shakes his head now.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: He says he needs to sort out his bank stuff before he buys her a ring.
28:39
SPEAKER_00: You knew.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: You probably knew about this party before you came over, right?
28:45
SPEAKER_00: In her talking head, she says, I waited six years to be together in person.
28:49
SPEAKER_00: Once again, he's making me feel like he's not invested in a relationship.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: But on the other hand, he is still sending her money every month, but he is also holding that over her head, and he will continue for the rest of their life to hold money over her head.
29:05
SPEAKER_00: Be rid of this man.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: Go back to work and live your life with your best friend who's your mom.
29:15
SPEAKER_00: I would watch a show about Analyn and her mom.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: Moving on to Rick and Trisha.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: It is time to finally get off your ass and decide if we're gonna have kids or not.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: They want an answer now.
29:33
SPEAKER_00: It's about the continuation of the family line, they keep saying.
29:37
SPEAKER_00: Rick says in his talking head, in their culture, having a baby is the most important thing.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: I would hate for her to not be respected by her family.
29:46
SPEAKER_00: She would feel ashamed.
29:48
SPEAKER_00: And dude, she wants more than just a baby.
29:51
SPEAKER_00: Trisha wants multiple children.
29:53
SPEAKER_00: And you know this.
29:56
SPEAKER_00: Rick says in his talking head, at the same time, I feel like a piece of meat and a pressure cooker.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I'm being forced to make a life-changing decision in a short time.
30:05
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, you've just warned us that you're probably gonna lie just to get out of this situation.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: But he says, he tells Trisha, I know how important it is to the family.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: If we're gonna get married, then I want to make you happy.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: I want you to make your life complete.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: So I have to say yes.
30:22
SPEAKER_00: And Trish is so happy, and it's just killing me how happy she is about this.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: So they want to know when they want a timeline.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Like, let's get it together.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: Get off the pot and tell us exactly how and when this is all gonna happen.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: So Rick says when he gets back to the U.S., he's gonna file for the visa.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: It'll take about eight months to a year.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: If you're lucky for her to get the spout the fiance visa.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: He says, after getting married, we'll start planning our family together.
30:51
SPEAKER_00: Rick says by the end of August, he'll propose and start the whole visa process.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: So later they're saying goodbye to Rick.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: Everybody is happy crying over Rick.
31:00
SPEAKER_00: And I really wish this whole beautiful family in Madagascar could see everyone on the internet watching this and shouting their disapproval at the TV and their dislike, extreme dislike of Rick.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: And his talking head says, now that we're leaving, we can sleep together again and take a nice warm shower together and not have eyeballs on us.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because that's the only thing you care about.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: So their flight back to Antana Narivo has been delayed.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: And they cut to 30 minutes later, then an hour later, and then we see Trisha looking through his phone, looking through Rick's phone while he is trying to grab it back from her because she saw that his ex had texted him.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: And then the producer asks Rick in his in the moment interview if this is the same ex from Colombia that he visited.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: While Trisha had supposedly ghosted him for five days, but not actually ghosted him.
32:09
SPEAKER_00: And he says, Yes.
32:10
SPEAKER_00: He says, A few days ago, I got a text from my ex saying, You never loved me.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: And he replied, Meanwhile, this is while he's in the village with Trisha.
32:20
SPEAKER_00: He replied to his ex saying, You know that's not true.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: His ex said on the screenshot that they show us, I'm human.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: I felt something nice for you.
32:30
SPEAKER_00: It is obvious that you marked beautiful things on me.
32:35
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, Some of the most beautiful times of my life have been with you.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: Trisha's clearly upset.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: She says, Why didn't you fucking tell me the messages were from Wednesday?
32:45
SPEAKER_00: Today is Saturday.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: So she throws the phone back at him.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: She wants to know why he didn't tell her right away that his ex had texted him.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: She says, I would never hide something.
32:57
SPEAKER_00: You would never have told me about it if I didn't ask.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: Trisha says in her talking head, he told me he's not talking to his ex, but they started talking while we were at my father's house.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: So she locks herself in the restroom at the airport.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: This feels like the end of the chapter for them, and I really, really hope so.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: Next time on Before the 90 Days, Stig and Aviva talk about applying for a visa.
33:24
SPEAKER_00: These dum-dums apparently never talked about who's going where.
33:28
SPEAKER_00: Stig wants to come to the US, and Aviva is talking about moving to Belize.
33:34
SPEAKER_00: Ugh, I can't put these two.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: Moving on to 90 Day The Single Life, Episode 9, The Act of Monkey Barring.
33:46
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna look it up.
33:48
SPEAKER_00: It's not a thing.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: Monkey barring.
33:50
SPEAKER_00: Give me a break.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I'm gonna get Gino out of the way first because that's the least believable and also the most fake relationship on here.
34:00
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I should do a fake relationship book next.
34:03
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: So Natalie has just met Uncle Marco and she tells Gino, as they're driving back to his house, I guess, in Canton, just outside of Detroit, and they're kind of going over that meeting with Marco, and Gino jokes.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: So I if I asked you to marry me tonight, would that be a lot?
34:25
SPEAKER_00: But really, she's talking about the whole having babies question.
34:30
SPEAKER_00: Gino hasn't even met her adult children yet.
34:33
SPEAKER_00: As she shouldn't.
34:34
SPEAKER_00: This is not a real relationship.
34:36
SPEAKER_00: It is talking head, he says.
34:38
SPEAKER_00: He thinks if things progress, he hopes she'll be open to having kids because that's very important to him.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: Well, if children are very important to you, Gino, you should not be with a 50-plus year old woman who is done having kids.
34:52
SPEAKER_00: But he also should not be with somebody half his age.
34:56
SPEAKER_00: So maybe you just give up on the whole kids thing and be with somebody your age.
35:02
SPEAKER_00: Before you come at me with, but they could always adopt I'm sure.
35:06
SPEAKER_00: But that is its own entire thing, and it's not for everyone.
35:11
SPEAKER_00: Also, this woman is entirely done raising children.
35:14
SPEAKER_00: It's all over her face.
35:15
SPEAKER_00: There is no way this woman wants to raise a child with Gino.
35:21
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so they kiss and cuddle on Gino's hideous sofa, and it looks so painfully awkward for her.
35:32
SPEAKER_00: Then they go upstairs, and Gino's thinking they're definitely gonna have sex, maybe till sunrise.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: Gino, you might use that little blue pill to keep it up until sunrise, but no woman is gonna be enjoying herself until sunrise.
35:50
SPEAKER_00: Someone please step in and help this man get over himself.
35:53
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, moving on to Sophie and Liz and Julia and by extension, Pedro and Via.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: So we open with Julia and Sophie waiting at the bar for Liz.
36:04
SPEAKER_00: It's been four days since the fight between Liz and Sophie.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: Four days on this trip, and they haven't spoken to Liz.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: How long is this trip?
36:14
SPEAKER_00: So Julia has texted Liz to meet up at the bar.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: Why can't Sophie do it?
36:22
SPEAKER_00: Is she in middle school?
36:25
SPEAKER_00: Sophie is the one with the big beef.
36:27
SPEAKER_00: Why does she need Julia to arrange these meetings?
36:32
SPEAKER_00: First with Pedro and now Liz.
36:35
SPEAKER_00: She can't handle reaching out on her own.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: It's so childish.
36:40
SPEAKER_00: Like a complete robot, Sophie says, It's up to Liz if she wants to continue our friendship.
36:44
SPEAKER_00: I would like to because I do value her.
36:48
SPEAKER_00: Did they feed that to you because they knew you were already getting a real bad edit here and they weren't expecting it?
36:57
SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, Liz stroll in looking great in her cozy baggy jeans and crop tank top, completely effortless, not giving a shit, but still looking adorable.
37:08
SPEAKER_00: The editors cut in with a little voiceover from Liz saying, I haven't seen the girls in a few days.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: I feel like shutting out a friend on a girl's trip is giving mean girl energy.
37:22
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
37:22
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: The entire internet agrees with you, Liz.
37:26
SPEAKER_00: So she sits down and no one says anything at first.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: And I think it behooves Sophie to speak first, but of course she's not going to because Sophie is gonna Sophie.
37:38
SPEAKER_00: And finally, Liz breaks the silence and says, Well, I'm gonna get a drink.
37:43
SPEAKER_00: Can I get you another?
37:45
SPEAKER_00: Because she's just gracious like that.
37:48
SPEAKER_00: And Sophie says, sure, can I get a pina colada?
37:53
SPEAKER_00: I feel like now would be the moment you, Sophie, get up off of your Brazilian butt lift ass and say, No, no, no, let me get you a drink.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: Also, a pina colada.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: Come on.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Girl loves a terrible hangover, I guess.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: What can I say?
38:11
SPEAKER_00: Once again, Julia has to be the moderator.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: Julia says, I'm glad you came.
38:16
SPEAKER_00: It's been a couple of days of silence, and now it's time to come back to our girls' trip.
38:21
SPEAKER_00: Sophie finally speaks.
38:22
SPEAKER_00: She says, She's been super overwhelmed since she got here.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: Not because of you, Liz, but because of Paige, you and I.
38:28
SPEAKER_00: It's been a lot, and I know I was too hard on you, and I apologize for that.
38:32
SPEAKER_00: Liz responds, She really doesn't want drama or pettiness.
38:37
SPEAKER_00: She has did not have any ill intention.
38:42
SPEAKER_00: She's sorry.
38:43
SPEAKER_00: We already saw Liz apologize like five times during the original fight, but okay.
38:48
SPEAKER_00: You're apologizing again because Sophie is a lot of work.
38:54
SPEAKER_00: Sophie says, I'm sorry too for being emotional.
38:57
SPEAKER_00: No one's perfect.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: People bicker.
38:59
SPEAKER_00: Liz is so gracious and says, So what you're saying is we got our first fight out of the way.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: Liz.
39:08
SPEAKER_00: Remember, the cancer patient is doing so much emotional work for these people, and I hate it.
39:17
SPEAKER_00: These girls are not your friends, Liz.
39:19
SPEAKER_00: Neither of them.
39:21
SPEAKER_00: She's giving so much more grace than I would be.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: But in her talking head, Liz says that she thinks the apology seems sincere, but now she feels like the outcast.
39:37
SPEAKER_00: But she's gonna move forward and enjoy the rest of the trip.
39:40
SPEAKER_00: And oh my gosh, please, no more drama.
39:44
SPEAKER_00: So she asks how things are going with Pedro.
39:46
SPEAKER_00: Sophie says the side trip to Nicole's birthday party was so bad, and Liz seems genuinely surprised and disappointed.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: Do any of these people have a single clue what Nicole is about or what Lydia is about?
40:02
SPEAKER_00: Lydia and Nicole are agents of chaos and evil across the entire 90-day universe.
40:10
SPEAKER_00: 90-day fiance, HEA, Family Chantel.
40:13
SPEAKER_00: They are the worst, among the worst of the worst, family members in this franchise.
40:20
SPEAKER_00: But then she brings up the fact that there's a guy who popped up in their social media who lives in the area.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: And Liz scoots in next to her to see him on the phone.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: He's tall, muscly, tattooed as a motorcycle, posting thirst traps on the Instagram.
40:39
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
40:40
SPEAKER_00: Should be zero problems going on with this guy.
40:44
SPEAKER_00: Um and Sophie's talking head, she says, I told Pedro I needed a little space, and this guy looks like the right amount of space.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: Nothing has happened yet.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: She plans on meeting him in a couple of days, but of course we know Pedro's gonna freak out about that.
40:59
SPEAKER_00: Um so the next morning they're doing water aerobics.
41:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh the teacher calls it hangover Zumba.
41:08
SPEAKER_00: Alright, people do not give enough credit to how good of a workout water aerobics is.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: What's going on with Sophie's hair?
41:19
SPEAKER_00: Did she take out her extensions?
41:21
SPEAKER_00: I sound dumb.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how extensions work.
41:24
SPEAKER_00: Did she cut it?
41:26
SPEAKER_00: Also, can I be catty for a minute?
41:29
SPEAKER_00: Do I have your permission?
41:31
SPEAKER_00: Julia was supposedly a go-go dancer in Russia, but in this water aerobic scene, she has zero hip movements here.
41:41
SPEAKER_00: She cannot sway those hips at all.
41:45
SPEAKER_00: If I can ever offer any advice, it's go take a belly dancing class and learn how to move your hips independently from your body, and that will serve you immensely.
41:56
SPEAKER_00: In pregnancy, it helps with lower back pain.
42:01
SPEAKER_00: For me, with pregnancy, with periods, it's all lower back pain.
42:08
SPEAKER_00: Being able to loosen your hips really helps with that.
42:11
SPEAKER_00: I took a belly dancing class in um when I was pregnant with my first child, and it was amazing.
42:17
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, after class, Liz tells the girls that there is actually a guy back home she's been talking to as well.
42:27
SPEAKER_00: Like we're dating, she says.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: Not exclusively, I guess, but she met someone new shortly after breaking up with Jason, her last boyfriend.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: She says his name is Alec.
42:40
SPEAKER_00: He wants to build a relationship with me, but I have never been single.
42:44
SPEAKER_00: So I told Alec I was coming on this trip and I was gonna date other guys.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: So I'm glad she was up front with Alec about that.
42:53
SPEAKER_00: She says, I wanted to get it out of my system and see if I was ready for a relationship, but now I'm conflicted because I'm developing feelings for Via.
43:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we all are.
43:03
SPEAKER_00: We all are.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, Sophie says, Well, just be honest with him.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I mean, yeah, you do need to be honest with Via, but um so later on, Via picks Liz up um at the resort and says, Hey, beautiful, gives her a hug.
43:22
SPEAKER_00: He's just like low-key, confident, super charismatic without being pushy and all in your face.
43:30
SPEAKER_00: I just I like this guy, and I want him to stay in the 90-day universe, please.
43:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh, they go to dance lessons, dance lessons uh for merengue, bachata.
43:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, these two are so hot and cute together dancing.
43:48
SPEAKER_00: He's excellent at leading.
43:51
SPEAKER_00: I have never, ever, ever understood how to follow while dancing.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: No one has been able to explain it to me correctly or with any kind of Results.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: Like, I need you to hold my hand and explain it to me like I'm five years old.
44:06
SPEAKER_00: I am terrible at following someone's lead.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: I need like a real dance teacher.
44:15
SPEAKER_00: I would love a real dance teacher to help me like flip some switch in my brain because I honestly have no idea how to follow.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, after class, Julia pulls her aside and says, You look nervous.
44:30
SPEAKER_00: Liz says, I wasn't expecting to come here and start falling for someone.
44:35
SPEAKER_00: And Julia's counseling her because I guess she's the counselor of everyone now.
44:40
SPEAKER_00: Says, you just gotta be honest.
44:42
SPEAKER_00: That's all you need to do.
44:43
SPEAKER_00: So um, so Liz and Via get some drinks and sit down to chit-chat.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's more than a chit-chat.
44:53
SPEAKER_00: Liz says, I don't know where your feelings are, but I'm developing feelings.
44:58
SPEAKER_00: Via says, same.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: Liz says, I've had the best time with you, but I came on this trip to work on myself.
45:08
SPEAKER_00: And having these feelings are making things complicated because there's someone back home I've been seeing.
45:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Via looks genuinely hurt and says, I didn't expect that.
45:19
SPEAKER_00: How serious is it?
45:20
SPEAKER_00: She says, I don't know.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: The whole point of this trip is to see where I see where I wanted things to go when I get back home.
45:28
SPEAKER_00: He says, doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: It's a singles trip, but it's not.
45:34
SPEAKER_00: Liz says I am single, but I can see how it looks to you.
45:39
SPEAKER_00: She feels terrible.
45:41
SPEAKER_00: Via feels terrible, and I feel bad for both of them.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: And I just want to grab both of them and say, now kiss.
45:52
SPEAKER_00: Moving on to Vanya and Tony.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we're still in Maine visiting Vanya's cousin, Sunila.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: She and cousin Sanila are having their morning lattes.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Vanya says, Tony was really upset last night.
46:09
SPEAKER_00: Did you go really hard on him?
46:11
SPEAKER_00: Sanila's like, no, I was just asking, where are you in the relationship?
46:15
SPEAKER_00: Are you on the same page?
46:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm sorry, Sanila, let's roll tape.
46:22
SPEAKER_00: You actually asked him why he was hanging out with Vanya while he had a girlfriend in his house.
46:29
SPEAKER_00: Uh, in her talking head, Vanya says, before they even arrived, she saw a side of Tony that she never saw before.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: To Sanila, she says, I don't know if you could tell why you're doing my face, but Tony was blowing up my phone.
46:44
SPEAKER_00: So she tells Sanila that Tony was so upset that she wasn't picking up the phone during her procedure with Sunila that when he finally got a hold of her, he was so angry he hung up on her.
46:58
SPEAKER_00: Sanila, the textbook shit stirrer, says that sounds controlling.
47:03
SPEAKER_00: And it does.
47:05
SPEAKER_00: So Vanya is planning to address this later today while they go paddle boarding.
47:11
SPEAKER_00: Hey girl, worse comes to worst, you can watch him get mad and flustered and lose his balance on the paddle board and maybe help him a little bit.
47:20
SPEAKER_00: Fall off the board.
47:23
SPEAKER_00: Because no one on the internet likes this man.
47:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh, cut to Tony in the basement.
47:30
SPEAKER_00: I will say this for Tony.
47:31
SPEAKER_00: He's a decent house guest, making the bed.
47:34
SPEAKER_00: He tells producers he did not sleep well.
47:38
SPEAKER_00: He feels like he's being ganged up on and he's alone.
47:43
SPEAKER_00: You're alone here because you might be a controlling manipulator with a dead personality having a midlife crisis with your red sports car.
47:51
SPEAKER_00: And I think you're not the nice guy that you have disguised yourself to be.
47:57
SPEAKER_00: Being a doctor doesn't automatically make you hot shit.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: I would rather have a line cook with a good heart than a doctor with a fart personality.
48:13
SPEAKER_00: And here you are with her family.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: Prepare to have every misstep analyzed by the cousins.
48:22
SPEAKER_00: This is what they do.
48:24
SPEAKER_00: Vanya is just a bright light.
48:27
SPEAKER_00: Her bright pink skirt and swim top and her macrame cover-up and flower and her hair and her floppy hat.
48:35
SPEAKER_00: I love her so much.
48:37
SPEAKER_00: And in the ride, in the car on the way to the beach, Tony is just really underlining the difference between the two of them here.
48:44
SPEAKER_00: It's an utter mismatch.
48:47
SPEAKER_00: She's a beautiful little sun sprite sitting next to this schlub who puts in zero effort in his old t-shirt and shorts because he's not even aware he's on camera.
48:59
SPEAKER_00: I'm not expecting him to dress in like something designer to go paddleboarding, but like, where's the swim gear?
49:06
SPEAKER_00: You are a doctor on TV.
49:09
SPEAKER_00: You are the boyfriend.
49:10
SPEAKER_00: Go to REI, get you some nice swim gear.
49:13
SPEAKER_00: You don't look ready.
49:16
SPEAKER_00: You do not give a shit about this woman.
49:21
SPEAKER_00: You do not know whom you have here.
49:27
SPEAKER_00: So Tony says, Sonila came at me pretty hard.
49:30
SPEAKER_00: Anya says, What do you mean she came at you hard?
49:32
SPEAKER_00: He says, She brought up a lot of history from a while ago.
49:35
SPEAKER_00: I feel I feel under attack on the first night.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: She says, Well, she's got my best interests at heart.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: He says, Well, if you saw what happened, it was an attack.
49:46
SPEAKER_00: So in his talking head, Tony says, I wish we could deal with our issues together instead of spread out all over the whole world.
49:54
SPEAKER_00: Well, my guy, you should not have gone on a reality show.
49:57
SPEAKER_00: You can't have Vanya in your life if you don't want your bullshit picked apart by the whole world.
50:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, unfortunately, there's thunderstorms, so they can't go paddle boarding, says the lady at the outfitter.
50:10
SPEAKER_00: So the two of them walk around on the waterfront, and Vanya confronts him about how he was blowing up her phone and then hung up on her, and he defends himself.
50:21
SPEAKER_00: He says, I'm in a new place.
50:22
SPEAKER_00: You have family here.
50:23
SPEAKER_00: I have no one.
50:24
SPEAKER_00: I thought I could rely on you a little more.
50:27
SPEAKER_00: What?
50:28
SPEAKER_00: You knew she was having a makeup procedure done.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: My man, you are a grown adult and you are in Maine.
50:37
SPEAKER_00: Maine in the United States.
50:39
SPEAKER_00: Portland, Maine.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: Maybe perhaps go for a walk and think your thoughts.
50:43
SPEAKER_00: This woman is not a security blanket.
50:46
SPEAKER_00: This seems to be an epidemic where people are not able to enjoy their own company when they're alone.
50:51
SPEAKER_00: Tony, you have a phone in your pocket.
50:53
SPEAKER_00: Pull up things to do in the area.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: I would guess there's plenty to do in Portland, Maine.
50:58
SPEAKER_00: Perhaps a museum about shipwrecks.
51:01
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
51:02
SPEAKER_00: A lighthouse museum.
51:04
SPEAKER_00: Go eat some lobster.
51:05
SPEAKER_00: So Vanya starts to cry.
51:07
SPEAKER_00: She says, This is a special weekend for me.
51:10
SPEAKER_00: It's her birthday.
51:11
SPEAKER_00: And these are the most special people in my life.
51:14
SPEAKER_00: He calls what happened with her when he was blowing up her phone a time management issue about us spending time together.
51:24
SPEAKER_00: Vanya says, Don't make this about me.
51:26
SPEAKER_00: Tony says, I like to be in control.
51:29
SPEAKER_00: Well, finally, you said it.
51:30
SPEAKER_00: She says, You have to learn to roll with the punches and not alienate the person you're supposed to be with.
51:36
SPEAKER_00: So they have a discussion about whether or not his personality is changing because this is a big problem for her in her talking head.
51:44
SPEAKER_00: She says, This is a pattern in my life.
51:46
SPEAKER_00: These men start off as Prince Charming and then they do a 180 and become a totally different person.
51:53
SPEAKER_00: Banya.
51:54
SPEAKER_00: Is a Prince Charming in the room with us?
51:59
SPEAKER_00: I don't see a Prince Charming anywhere.
52:02
SPEAKER_00: Oh, these two finally get around to talking about how he blew up and hung up the phone.
52:06
SPEAKER_00: His only explanation is that he likes to be updated and he gets bothered when things don't go according to plan.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: What plan?
52:17
SPEAKER_00: He says he didn't feel like he was on her radar.
52:22
SPEAKER_00: So did he or did he not know she was getting her makeup done?
52:26
SPEAKER_00: This is totally mismatched energy here.
52:30
SPEAKER_00: She needs someone who can vibe with her and laugh with her and be fun and sort of just hang back and bask in her glow.
52:40
SPEAKER_00: That's not Tony.
52:43
SPEAKER_00: For the love of all that's holy, can we all just start raising uh the straight men in our lives?
52:52
SPEAKER_00: Can we raise them to go be able to go five minutes without constant contact and affirmation from the opposite sex?
53:02
SPEAKER_00: I beg.
53:03
SPEAKER_00: I beg the mothers.
53:07
SPEAKER_00: Colt and Courtney.
53:09
SPEAKER_00: I cannot believe we're having another scene with Colt and Courtney.
53:14
SPEAKER_00: Or Colt, anyway.
53:15
SPEAKER_00: Colt is sitting alone in his hotel room.
53:18
SPEAKER_00: He flips his phone screen around to face the camera and it has Courtney on as a lock screen.
53:24
SPEAKER_00: Can someone take the phone away from this man?
53:27
SPEAKER_00: He says, I miss her.
53:29
SPEAKER_00: He's still calling her in a creepy voice.
53:33
SPEAKER_00: He says, Courtney, are you okay?
53:35
SPEAKER_00: Let me know.
53:37
SPEAKER_00: She's fine, dude.
53:39
SPEAKER_00: She's better than fine.
53:41
SPEAKER_00: Leave her alone.
53:44
SPEAKER_00: So it's been five days since they broke up.
53:47
SPEAKER_00: Mother Debbie failed in her mission.
53:50
SPEAKER_00: He says, I can't say I'm surprised.
53:52
SPEAKER_00: I hate myself for that.
53:53
SPEAKER_00: I hate myself for the pain that I caused everybody.
53:57
SPEAKER_00: He then goes on to say, Well, I felt trapped.
53:59
SPEAKER_00: Talking with Diana helped me escape that reality.
54:03
SPEAKER_00: He says, So when Courtney took his phone, Courtney saw all the messages to Diana, and then she messaged Diana to tell her that Courtney was in a relationship with Colt.
54:16
SPEAKER_00: So then he calls her, he FaceTimes Diana and says, How you been?
54:22
SPEAKER_00: This young lady's quite beautiful.
54:24
SPEAKER_00: She says she feels stupid because Colt told her that he loved her.
54:30
SPEAKER_00: How does this man keep pulling women of this caliber?
54:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying anything about his looks.
54:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm saying he is some type of charmer.
54:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I guess he's funny in a self-effacing way.
54:48
SPEAKER_00: I remember I took up for him.
54:50
SPEAKER_00: I rooted for him and Courtney on Hunt for Love just because they seem to be good friends.
54:57
SPEAKER_00: And I hated the way that Usman was talking to Colt.
55:01
SPEAKER_00: But Colt has deep, deep, deep problems.
55:08
SPEAKER_00: Sex addict, porn addict.
55:11
SPEAKER_00: The way he treated Larissa, the way he treated the way he cheated on Jess.
55:17
SPEAKER_00: Is it because he's simply on TV so they go along with it?
55:21
SPEAKER_00: And then he's funny, so they fall in love.
55:27
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, so Cole explains he had plans to go see Diana before Hunt for Love, aka Mexico Banghouse.
55:36
SPEAKER_00: But then he broke his leg.
55:39
SPEAKER_00: He says to Diana's face, I love Courtney and I love you.
55:43
SPEAKER_00: Don't ever say that to a woman who's already mad at you.
55:49
SPEAKER_00: This seems like pretty basic advice.
55:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh, by the way, do you still want me to come to Brazil?
55:58
SPEAKER_00: The audacity of this man.
56:00
SPEAKER_00: Diana says, I feel like your last option.
56:03
SPEAKER_00: Yep, you are.
56:05
SPEAKER_00: He says, I don't know what I'm doing with my life right now.
56:09
SPEAKER_00: She's like, anyway, I gotta go, click.
56:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh, in his talking head Colt says, I want the benefits of having Diana as an outlet, but all the benefits of Courtney as a girlfriend.
56:23
SPEAKER_00: And there it is, folks.
56:25
SPEAKER_00: It's a classic user.
56:27
SPEAKER_00: Women are there to be of service to him.
56:31
SPEAKER_00: He says, I'm not ready to give up on love.
56:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna fight like hell to get her back.
56:35
SPEAKER_00: The producer says, which one?
56:37
SPEAKER_00: And he says, good question.
56:44
SPEAKER_00: That is so so disgusting and par for the course.
56:50
SPEAKER_00: Next time on Single Life, Kim is apparently talking to some dude named Wayne in London.
56:58
SPEAKER_00: Gino is meeting Natalie's daughter, and it's immediately apparent she cannot stand him.
57:05
SPEAKER_00: Sophie is telling Pedro about the guy she met uh on social media, and she's gonna meet up with him for a date.
57:14
SPEAKER_00: And of course, Pedro freaks out.
57:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Tony is freaking out over Vanya dancing with someone.
57:22
SPEAKER_00: I really need some content.
57:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean context about that.
57:29
SPEAKER_00: Uh moving on to Book Club Corner.
57:35
SPEAKER_00: So, as you know from last time, I'm currently reading the book Rock Hard.
57:43
SPEAKER_00: It is super, super good.
57:45
SPEAKER_00: It's a workplace romance.
57:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's actually a third book in a series of romances by Nalini Singh, uh, New York Times bestselling author.
57:58
SPEAKER_00: You do not have to read the rest of them in the series.
58:01
SPEAKER_00: Actually, the rest of the ones in that series look like they are rockstar romances.
58:06
SPEAKER_00: Rockstar romances generally are not my thing, but workplace romance is a hundred percent my catnip.
58:14
SPEAKER_00: Give me all the problematic human resources, nightmares.
58:20
SPEAKER_00: Put it in my veins.
58:21
SPEAKER_00: Not in real life, not in real life.
58:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm looking at you, Laura.
58:27
SPEAKER_00: The problematic romance is for books and not for real life.
58:32
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, Nalini sings, writing is so delicious, and um, it's just she really knows how to build the sexual tension, the romantic tension between the characters.
58:49
SPEAKER_00: The boss is like this big, like huge ex-rugby player, and she is like this really smart uh person who works at this failing company, and he comes in to take over um and kind of turn the ship around.
59:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, she's been overlooked at her job and he has taken notice of her, and it's just ooh, I love it, Chef's Kiss.
59:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, if you like workplace romances or as I call them, human resources nightmares.
59:21
SPEAKER_00: I, as my pen name, Abby Knox, I've written several of those types of romances.
59:31
SPEAKER_00: I have a series about um a group of brothers who work in a um historic rehabilitation company.
59:40
SPEAKER_00: They restore old houses together, and um, they all get together with the women that they work with.
59:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I've taken that, I've taken paper paperbacks of that book, um, the Wood Brothers series uh with me to several different signings, and they just they sell out when people see them.
59:58
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I am not the only one who loves a workplace romance.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_00: So if that's your jam, um, you know, look me up on my website, authorabbynox.com.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, there's links to my newsletter, there's links to my um my books on there.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_00: You can find me on Amazon.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_00: I have several books that are also available on Apple and Kobo and um all different kinds of retail book sites.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_00: So come check it out.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_00: I will have a link in the show notes if you're interested in hopping on Story Graph and finding me at 90 Day Book Club on Story Graph and reading along with me.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'll have a link to how to get the book and um I'll also have links to my Instagram and Facebook for my author account.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_00: I'll also have a link to my coffee account if you want to leave me a tip, and there will also be a link to support the show.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for listening, and I will talk to you soon.