Latest / Elon Musk Thinking / Elon Musk: There is an overwhelming consensus that there should be some AI regulation.
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- 0:00Regulators. So I think the key point was really that it's important for us.
- 0:06It's important for us to have a referee, just as you have a
- 0:09referee in a sports game or all sports games, and that the games are
- 0:12better for it to ensure that those you know, the players, pay the
- 0:17rules play fairly. I think it is important for similar reasons to have a
- 0:23regularator regulator, which you can think of as a referee, to ensure that
- 0:28companies take actions that are safe and in the interests of the general public.
- 0:31Did you tell them that AI has a double edged sword? Yes, And
- 0:34what did you mean by that? Well, what did the metaphor? Yeah?
- 0:38I mean I mean well, if you have a sword with two sides,
- 0:42when you're in one side can get you even though you're trying to get
- 0:44something with the other side. What do you want them to take away?
- 0:49I think it more important to make sure your hilt is also you have a
- 0:52hilt, not a shop thing. Yea. How do you think they how
- 0:56do you think they took the message that you brought to them? Well,
- 0:59I think it was. It was. It was very civilized discussion, actually
- 1:03among some of the smartest people in the world. So I thought it was
- 1:07Senator Schumer a great service here, humanity here along with sport of the rest
- 1:14of the Senate, and I think we'll I think something good will come of
- 1:18this this. I think this meeting may goun on history as being very important
- 1:21for the future of civilization. Do you think some legislation is going to come
- 1:23out of this? Probably? I'm not sure what the timeframe of that is,
- 1:27but you know, the legislative process is not a swift one. But
- 1:34I think it's I think this will the things will go in the right direction
- 1:38generally. Schumer or Leader Schimer did ask everyone to raise their hands in the
- 1:44room to see if they were in favor of AI regulation, and I believe
- 1:48almost everyone did. Yeah, so that's a good sign. Do you think
- 1:52any of the text CEOs left and change their minds? Do you think they
- 1:55were changed by anything they hurt from the Senate side? Well, I can't
- 1:59read their mind but judgment by the fact that they put their hands up when
- 2:04asked if they if they believed that some regulation is in order. I think
- 2:07the general I think it's clear that there's a strong consensus, a woman of
- 2:12woman consensus that there should be some AI regulation, that it would be in
- 2:15the best interests of the people to do so. And I think we'll probably
- 2:19see something happen. I don't know on what timeframe or exactly how it will
- 2:23manifest itself. But the questions what were they going to do? I don't
- 2:25know. I mean, there's there's clearly we've created regulatory agencies before and actually
- 2:32just recently. Just believing me the point that, you know, while our
- 2:37regulatory agencies are not perfect, and I deal with regulators on a very frequent
- 2:40basis with the automotive, you know, communications to starlink and then FA with
- 2:49with with rockets. So I've had transpantent interaction with regulators for you know,
- 2:54a couple of decades at least, And while regulators are not perfect, there's
- 3:00no regulatory agency that I'm aware of that I would I think we should at
- 3:04the federal level at least that that we should delete. Yeah, so I
- 3:08think I or something like that, I don't know what exactly, Perhaps perhaps
- 3:14an apartment of AI. Probably, let's say, I think the probability of
- 3:19there being some sort of a regulatory agency that stands on its own, similar
- 3:23to the FAO FCC is likely at some point, you think, sample I
- 3:25think so. Now, the reason that I've been such an advocate for AI
- 3:31safety in advance of sort of anything terrible happening is that I think the consequences
- 3:37of AI going wrong are our sphere. So we have to be proactive rather
- 3:43than reactive in the past. If he takes a and I'm being somewhat late
- 3:49for speaking of regulators, I'm a little late for the FA I'm meeting with
- 3:51the doone hold you up? I'm sure, but yeah, if you take
- 3:55the example of say seat belts, seat belts were opposed by the auto industry
- 4:00for a very long time, even though the data was very clear that they're
- 4:03safe, that they radically improve deaths and injuries. So you know, we
- 4:12we don't want to be in that situation where we're fighting regulations even though you
- 4:15know there's a safety thing. We can't wait for millions of people to die
- 4:19in auto accidents, as you know, like, and it's important to just
- 4:24elevate the question here. Question is is really one of civilizational risk. So
- 4:29just it's it's not like one group versus another, one group of humans versus
- 4:32another. It's like, hey, this is something that's potentially risky for all
- 4:35humans everywhere, It's very important to to understand that is there an equivalent of
- 4:43really, Congress, it's sufficiently ready to regulate a no, no, no
- 4:46no. The sequence of events will not be jumping in at the deep end
- 4:51and making rules, but it starts with and with insight. In fact,
- 4:57this is actually how all of the regulatory bodies have been formed. Believe.
- 5:00As you start with a group form to create insight to understand the situation,
- 5:04then you have proposed rulemaking, You'll get some objections from industry or whatever,
- 5:10and then ultimately you get sort of consensus on rolemaking. That rulemaking then becomes
- 5:15a law regulation. What's resedge to an ordinary person? Sperment actually, thank
- 5:19you. Another by Mark Zuckerberg