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Mark interviews NY Post columnist Michael Goodwin. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Hostern New York Mark simoneoo.
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  Speaker 2: Well the best columnist in America, Michael Goodwin. You can
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  Speaker 2: read his column every Sunday and every Wednesday in the
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  Speaker 2: New York Post. And if you go to the New
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  Speaker 2: York Post website, all of his columns are up there
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  Speaker 2: and they're all wonderful. You should read them all. Michael Goodwin,
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  Speaker 2: how you doing good?
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  Speaker 3: More than Mark? Thank you?
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  Speaker 2: Hey? You wrote about the White House Correspondence dinner. The
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  Speaker 2: president who has more experience at roasts and roasting people.
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  Speaker 2: He's great, But he didn't have his a game with
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  Speaker 2: him Saturday night, did he?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: I think it.
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  Speaker 1: It was a long speech, and I think it was
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  Speaker 1: too long, which is why it got kind of mushy
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  Speaker 1: at parts and didn't have a Chris flavor to it. Also,
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  Speaker 1: you could see the audience was tired. He spoke for
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  Speaker 1: an hour and what twenty minutes or so something like that,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a long long time for a dinner speech.
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  Speaker 3: And of course there was entertainment afterwards. I mean, it
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  Speaker 3: was a long, long day.
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  Speaker 1: But look, I think where the President went off track
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  Speaker 1: was in personal insults to some of the journalists nasty
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  Speaker 1: and also in some of the political swipes at you know, Pocahontas,
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  Speaker 1: right for example.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we've all.
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  Speaker 1: Heard that a hundred times and they pretty best served
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  Speaker 1: out a campaign rally.
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  Speaker 3: None of speech like that.
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  Speaker 1: You can't expect the journalists to applause or laugh or
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  Speaker 1: in any way give consent to that kind of thing. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 1: his dean there was very important, and that'sought. He showed
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  Speaker 1: exceptional kind of courage under fire and shaking hands and
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  Speaker 1: congratulating journalists who won awards for stories that attacked him.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought that that was really big. That was
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  Speaker 1: the big boy stuff of him to sit through that
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  Speaker 1: and then shake their hands.
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  Speaker 3: That to me.
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  Speaker 1: But look most important to Mark was him coming and
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  Speaker 1: the first time he had been to this annual event,
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  Speaker 1: and also getting the journalists to all stand and appreciate
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  Speaker 1: the police and secret service who had prevented catastrophe in
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  Speaker 1: April when the original version of the dinner was interrupted.
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  Speaker 3: By with the assassin.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought that was a unifying moment that the
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  Speaker 1: president conducting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, but the reason was such a long evening.
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  Speaker 2: They spent two hours giving themselves every award you could
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  Speaker 2: give anybody, you know, Yeah, nobody has a bigger endow
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  Speaker 2: than Donald Trump. But I can't picture him holding a
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  Speaker 2: ceremony given awards himself for two hours, can you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? That's you know.
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  Speaker 1: I've been to that dinner a few times and I
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  Speaker 1: stopped going him part because I was embarrassing that the media,
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  Speaker 1: the media congratulating itself when the president is there. I
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  Speaker 1: remember during Barack Obama's tendure, he was giving out award.
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  Speaker 1: He was handing out the awards, and then all the
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  Speaker 1: fellowships they give out sixty or seventy new intern types.
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  Speaker 3: Where they're all introduced by name.
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  Speaker 1: There's just a lot of business that takes place in
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  Speaker 1: a time and place where I think it just deflects
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  Speaker 1: the focus from what should be the purpose of this,
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  Speaker 1: which is once a year, the media and the person
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  Speaker 1: they're covering, and look what happens in New York the
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  Speaker 1: inner circle al But he has something like that with
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  Speaker 1: the governor, but it doesn't become a televised performance that
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  Speaker 1: goes on for four hours.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Michael Goodwin, mayor Mom Donnie. Releasing the names and
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  Speaker 2: addresses of the people with the pieda terras. That's they
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  Speaker 2: call that doxing, releasing prominent people's names and address to
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  Speaker 2: the public. That is, that's a crime. In my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: how does he get away with this?
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  Speaker 3: What's a good question.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, Margot, I think if I'm mariading this correctly,
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  Speaker 4: the list is not correct in many regards, and that
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  Speaker 4: people it is a primary residence or in some cases,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he would know because the city has a
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  Speaker 4: tax returns.
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  Speaker 3: I got to know from a friend who's on.
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  Speaker 1: The list, and he said that, basically telling me, I
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  Speaker 1: have to prove that I've lived here, but they know
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  Speaker 1: that they had my tax returns already.
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  Speaker 3: So the mayor sort of went fishing.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's pretty clear he did this for
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  Speaker 1: the shock value alone.
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  Speaker 2: So what is he up to with this doing like
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  Speaker 2: arresting that Yeah, who, he knows he can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: What what is the strategy of this shock thing? Is
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  Speaker 2: it to rile up his base? What is he up to?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've been thinking about that too, Mike.
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  Speaker 1: It looks to me like a kind of desperate need
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  Speaker 1: to justify himself. Uh, maybe to throw bait, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to the chump chump to his followers. There's a great
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  Speaker 1: history of that line. When Bill Clinton was elected president
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  Speaker 1: and Welfare reform was a big part of that campaign
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  Speaker 1: to recall and his hr A or HW at that time,
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  Speaker 1: Health Human Services was justifying it was Donna Shaulilah, she
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  Speaker 1: was the nominee and Pat Mornihan, the Senator, asked her,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything about the welfare reform that the
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  Speaker 1: President talked about in the campaign, and chi Leila had
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  Speaker 1: no answer, and morning Han said, oh, I share that
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  Speaker 1: was just boob bait for the bubblers.
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  Speaker 3: And that's sort of what this reminds you of.
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  Speaker 1: Boob bait for the bubblers, said that his followers riled
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  Speaker 1: up without any real substance involved.
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  Speaker 2: What but that was you know, Clinton did it to
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  Speaker 2: campaign to win the office. Once you've already won the
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  Speaker 2: office and you're there, you don't think it's some incredible
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  Speaker 2: plot he's got in his mind too. He's up to
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  Speaker 2: something in the in the long run.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's a good point, Mark.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Kathy Hoko deserves a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the blame. Yeah, I mean, this this tax was is
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  Speaker 1: not necessary. Uh, it just funds a lot of Mondani's
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  Speaker 1: crazy ideas, like the grocery stores that gives thirty percent discount.
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  Speaker 1: The Post has a story that all the money he's
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  Speaker 1: spending the grocery source. He just given New Yorkers a
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  Speaker 1: ticket to Costco. The membership a Costco. They could save
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  Speaker 1: money there. So it's all about a show. It feels
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  Speaker 1: like this is all about he's still campaigning, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that, Look, we expect some degree of that from politicians,
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  Speaker 1: and they need to keep their audience, their supporters engaged.
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  Speaker 1: But I think one Mandani is doing is just creating
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  Speaker 1: lots of doubts about his good will and creating the
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  Speaker 1: sense that he's out to destroy the city.
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  Speaker 3: That's not a very good look.
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  Speaker 2: All right, how much longer three and a half years
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  Speaker 2: of this guy?
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  Speaker 1: Well that's all right, Yes, I've been during the town
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  Speaker 1: time myself.
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  Speaker 2: Now what about nine to eleven, This will be the
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  Speaker 2: twenty fifth anniversary. This will be quite a day, and
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  Speaker 2: he keeps insisting he'll be there. What is that going
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  Speaker 2: to do to those families?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that is that's a big question.
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  Speaker 1: We have what about six weeks to go on that?
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  Speaker 1: Where the families? I think if there is an outpouring
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  Speaker 1: more and there's already been some, but I think if
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  Speaker 1: it becomes a really big movement of Racks. No only
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  Speaker 1: the families, but the city in general. That's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a defining moment for his mayor ot. I mean
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  Speaker 1: think about that, right, This is nine to eleven, the
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  Speaker 1: greatest event, most horror parilic event in New York City
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  Speaker 1: maybe ever the single day. And to have the mayor
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  Speaker 1: not invited by the families who suffered the greatest loss,
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  Speaker 1: who paid the price of freedom on that day, to
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  Speaker 1: have them say we don't want you there. You're part
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  Speaker 1: of the problem, not the solution. That's a pretty dramatic event.
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  Speaker 1: So it's still to be determined how it's resolved. But
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  Speaker 1: right now this is this is a very hot uh
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  Speaker 1: plan that's being cooked up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, well, Michael Goodwin, great stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You got.
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  Speaker 2: The next column is tomorrow. Any idea what it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be about or we don't know yet.
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  Speaker 3: Well some of the things we're talking about here.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, oh good I'll be reading tomorrow. That you
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  Speaker 2: get Michael Goodwin's column it's every Sunday and every Wednesday
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  Speaker 2: in the New York Post, and if you go to
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  Speaker 2: the Post website you get all of his columns there.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Goodwin, great as always, Thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: My pleasure, Mark, Thank you, right, take care. Uh Hey,
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