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Chuck & Buck 6-2 Hour 4: Ryon Healy, Chris Daniels and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: There you go. I just zipped up my jacket, got
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Speaker 1: rid of my turkey neck T shirt underneath. Now you
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Speaker 1: can't see it now. Heally and I are matching. Now
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Speaker 1: we got black matching hoodies going on right now.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't want you to see the stretched out neck
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Speaker 2: of his T shirt right any things you're gonna shame him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you might judge me for that. You're always bacon,
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Speaker 1: I did, I had. I had that. I don't know
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Speaker 1: why I picked that T shirt this morning. I tend
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Speaker 1: to put my T shirt over my nose when I'm
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Speaker 1: just like sitting and watching and relaxing. I don't know why.
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Speaker 1: And I put on that same T shirt this morning.
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Speaker 1: So I had a little bacon neck.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I found like something that my four year
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Speaker 3: old would do.
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Speaker 1: Four year old and I a lot of people have
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Speaker 1: thought had been really similar, very similar in the way
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Speaker 1: we conduct ourselves in life. Right, Heally joins us here
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Speaker 1: on the program. But now it looks like matching hoodie brothers.
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Speaker 1: And I like that. As Ryan was on the call
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Speaker 1: last night, I now the Mariners win three to two
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Speaker 1: and ten innings over the New York Mets. So they
1:12
Speaker 1: had started this little seven game stretch last Monday. But
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Speaker 1: they've not start, they've not lost since we last spoke
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Speaker 1: last Tuesday. So what are you seeing different? What's the
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Speaker 1: what's been the little adjustment the way that they're playing
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Speaker 1: that's resorting resulting, I should say, and wins.
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Speaker 3: Isn't that nice to say? Yeah, this Mariners team hasn't
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Speaker 3: lost in over a week at this point. It's it's
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Speaker 3: a lot of fun to watch. The energy, the confidence
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Speaker 3: is high. It would be easy for me to say, oh,
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Speaker 3: it's the home runs or oh, it's the pitching staff,
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Speaker 3: But the pitching staff has been great all year. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: the offense been inconsistent, and right now they they're answering
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Speaker 3: the call, especially when the visiting team puts up runs.
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Speaker 3: I give them so much credit. During the Dback series,
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Speaker 3: anytime the deep Back scored, like in the sixth inning
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Speaker 3: in that Friday game, they tied the game, put four up,
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Speaker 3: and then Luke Rayley at a home run the bottom half, Like,
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Speaker 3: the responses are happening quicker. But the secret sauce for
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Speaker 3: me right now, Chuck, is the defense. If you remember
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Speaker 3: that that Royal series about ten days ago, now, they
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Speaker 3: were giving away a lot of extra bases, and extra outs,
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Speaker 3: and when you do that in the major leagues, you're
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Speaker 3: gonna get punished at some point, because one through nine
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Speaker 3: those guys can do damage for Major League kiers and
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Speaker 3: the Sacramento series, they did a tremendous job, and you
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Speaker 3: actually saw it on the flip side. The A's were
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Speaker 3: giving away extra bases and the A's are giving away
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Speaker 3: extra outs, and the Mariners capitalized and made them. They
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Speaker 3: punished them for that, and then they played really clean
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Speaker 3: baseball to the weekend against the b Backs. The Sunday game,
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Speaker 3: there were a few plays that got away from them.
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Speaker 3: The Corbyn Carrol Hustle double that was a chopper up
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Speaker 3: the middle that he just ran in Julio's base had
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Speaker 3: a chance to talk with the third base coach, Carlos
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Speaker 3: Cordozo yesterday about that, and I told him I was
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Speaker 3: against a baseball fan. You had to appreciate that play.
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Speaker 3: He goes a little bit, but there's also ways we
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Speaker 3: can get better on both sides of the ball. They're
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Speaker 3: defensively and offensively. He's like, we got guys in our
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Speaker 3: team that can do that same play, but they didn't
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Speaker 3: let that play be the headline. You know what? By
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Speaker 3: the time the game was over, they were able to respond,
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Speaker 3: and they were able to find a way. You know,
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Speaker 3: Cole Young gets a bunt down in extra innings. It's
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Speaker 3: the little details that are really come together that every
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Speaker 3: single Mariners fan listening right now thought this team was
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Speaker 3: capable of, and for the first time in the twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty six season, we're seeing it come to light.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. And you mentioned Cole Young like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if you did
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Speaker 1: growing up or coming up in the system, or whatever
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Speaker 1: the case may be, if you always wanted to hear
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Speaker 1: you had such an incredibly high ceiling. Maybe all athletes
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Speaker 1: want to be described that way. I like my high floor, guys,
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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that Cole Young doesn't have a
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Speaker 1: high ceiling, but man, does that kid's floor. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he just looks like he's just going to be a
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Speaker 1: special regular for the next ten to fifteen years in
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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. And we're watching him every game. I
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Speaker 1: feel Ryan get a little bit better at practically everything.
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Speaker 3: Did you have any idea how bad his may was?
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Speaker 1: I know that he was slipping like offensively a little bit, Like.
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Speaker 3: Did you see did you use the numbers defense or offensively,
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Speaker 3: I should say.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I did see them directly, No,
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Speaker 1: but I knew when.
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Speaker 3: I saw them. When I saw them and I came
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Speaker 3: back here, I was like, I would have never guessed
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Speaker 3: that he was hitting in the ones for the month
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Speaker 3: of May, just because the quality of bat is still
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Speaker 3: consistent and to your point, Chuck, that the floor is
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Speaker 3: very high. There is still consistencies, there's still productivity even
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Speaker 3: when he's not getting hits or hitting home runs, and
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Speaker 3: a lot of that comes from the defense. Inside of
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Speaker 3: the ball. He is able to save runs and get
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Speaker 3: big outs in those situations that could flip the game
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Speaker 3: on its head immediately. He's he's been such a bright
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Speaker 3: spot for this team and I'm excited to see what
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Speaker 3: he does with one hundred and sixty two games, Meaning
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Speaker 3: how many times did he go through that cycle of
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Speaker 3: having a rough May where he does hit in the
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Speaker 3: ones and where's he also able to contribute. But a
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Speaker 3: high school player got drafted in the first round, Chuck,
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Speaker 3: do you think he got drafted in the first round
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Speaker 3: because of his bunting ability?
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Speaker 1: Now in high school period?
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Speaker 3: Hang in Baseball's around the yard in high school, so
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Speaker 3: he had to learn how to bunt in professional baseball,
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Speaker 3: and I can almost guarantee you he wasn't doing much
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Speaker 3: of it in the minor leagues. And if you think
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Speaker 3: about playoffs from twenty twenty five, how important do those
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Speaker 3: sacrifice buttons buns become Laton games? And if Cole Young
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Speaker 3: is a guy that you can count on in your
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Speaker 3: lineup to get one down, wow, that that is definitely
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Speaker 3: raising the floor for key components to winning a World
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Speaker 3: Series that this Mariners team was looking for this offseason.
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Speaker 1: And I know you're a fan of JP and you're
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Speaker 1: not in any hurry to rush him away. That said,
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Speaker 1: Colt and coal up the mill. I think maybe I've
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Speaker 1: asked you this before. I mean, I'm ready to sign
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Speaker 1: up for that for the next ten years. We've already
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Speaker 1: locked Emerson up for the next nine years. I'm ready
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Speaker 1: to do that with Cole Young. Your response to that
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Speaker 1: and then piggyback, wrong word to use? Uh, Peggy is
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Speaker 1: that word? Yeah? The Emerson impact and impression that you've
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Speaker 1: gotten here early in his stint as a major leaguer, I.
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Speaker 3: Would love to see Cole Young get locked up as well.
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Speaker 3: And my guess is if there hasn't been conversations about it,
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Speaker 3: there will be conversations that come. I think Brendan Donnovan
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Speaker 3: coming back will create some unique formats. I believe Colts
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Speaker 3: has anchored himself into being an everyday guy. It doesn't
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Speaker 3: mean that, you know, they won't get off days between Colt,
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Speaker 3: JP and Cole. I think Brendan will be able to
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Speaker 3: give all of them off days when he comes back,
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Speaker 3: and then the dynamic of that of how Dan Wilson
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Speaker 3: utilizes his surplus of quality bats and defenders will be
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Speaker 3: really nice to watch. JP Crawford has done such a
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Speaker 3: great job of answering the beel ever since he said
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Speaker 3: I will only go to third base. I feel like
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Speaker 3: he's flipped it into a different gear on both sides
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Speaker 3: of the ball. Offensively, hitting multiple home runs first every
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Speaker 3: career two home run game last week, had the big
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Speaker 3: home run in Sacramento as well, the game saving play
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Speaker 3: up the middle, the way that he was able to
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Speaker 3: slide and scoop that ball. I don't think people realize
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Speaker 3: how tough of a play that was. They made it
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Speaker 3: look easy. I know the question was how excited am
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Speaker 3: I for this young middle infield? Ticket together, and trust me,
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Speaker 3: I am. But I'm also enjoying the leadership that I'm
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Speaker 3: watching JP Crawford execute right now on a big, big level,
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Speaker 3: and I don't want that to go unnoticed. The presence
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Speaker 3: that he brings in a daily basis, the work ethic
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Speaker 3: every day when I go to the yard about two o'clock,
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Speaker 3: you know, four and a half hours for a game time.
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Speaker 3: Guess who's out there every single day hitting early work,
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Speaker 3: JP Crawford. Guess who's out there every single day getting
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Speaker 3: his early extra defense, JP Crawford. He is leading by
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Speaker 3: example and showing this team that I'm willing to do
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Speaker 3: whatever it takes to get to where we ultiately want
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Speaker 3: to go as a club. And I love that leadership,
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Speaker 3: and I think the young guys are really really attaching
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Speaker 3: themselves to it and learning.
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Speaker 1: Former Mariner Ryan now on Mariner TV. You've heard him
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Speaker 1: the last couple of series. He's killing it on Mariner's
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Speaker 1: TV as an analyst up in the booth with Aaron
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Speaker 1: And fortunately we got in on the Ryan Heay train
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Speaker 1: early on. We had him last year and he now
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Speaker 1: is a regular with us here every Tuesday to talk
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Speaker 1: some Mariners baseball, All right, let's talk about the piggyback thing.
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Speaker 1: Let's actually discuss it, and they're gonna go away from
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Speaker 1: it now here for the next couple of turns through
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Speaker 1: the rotation. I'm not sure I would. I mean, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I realize how many loud, harsh critics are out there
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Speaker 1: about this thing, Ryan, but Luis Castillo's not pitched better
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Speaker 1: all season long. I mean, I think Bryce Miller is
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Speaker 1: one of our top three guys. I don't think I
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Speaker 1: would keep him specifically in the piggyback, but it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be a hard thing to go away from now because
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Speaker 1: last night was a direct result of piggybacking. All four
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Speaker 1: of those relievers that came in the game looked like
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Speaker 1: as good as they've looked all season long. So wait,
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Speaker 1: where's your head at right now with how the piggyback
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Speaker 1: should or shouldn't be used going forward?
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Speaker 3: I think that both pitchers have done such a great
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Speaker 3: job doing their job. They're performing well. And I was
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Speaker 3: laughing a little bit this weekend with Aaron Goldsmith about
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Speaker 3: like we need to think of a new word for
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Speaker 3: the piggyback because it has a negative connotation now next
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Speaker 3: to it. So I'm gonna I'm gonna call it a
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Speaker 3: starter surplus. The Mariners have a starter surplus, and what
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Speaker 3: a great problem to have. And more importantly, like if
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Speaker 3: you were the Diamondbacks coming in and you had to
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Speaker 3: face both of those starters over the weekend, like you're
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Speaker 3: not looking forward to that. There are no breaks, there
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Speaker 3: are no gaps in that game. And Luis Castillo comes
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Speaker 3: out of the bullpen throwing ninety seven ninety eight mile
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Speaker 3: an hour sinkers with a nasty slider, and then he's
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Speaker 3: the guy that you got to face in the ten
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Speaker 3: dinning because you end up going to extra innings. And
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Speaker 3: we're sitting there like, I wonderful see Louis come out
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Speaker 3: at the ten dinning, and sure sure not he did,
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Speaker 3: and he got out of a big spot. It was
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Speaker 3: unbelievable to see. Do you understand why they're going to
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Speaker 3: the six man though? Right with how the scheduling is,
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Speaker 3: I think they have sixteen games in seventeen days, So
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Speaker 3: like just the travel, the wear and tear that happens
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Speaker 3: to these guys, it does make sense to be able
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Speaker 3: to stretch out some of those guys a little bit,
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Speaker 3: allow Luis embrace the opportunity to push past that five
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Speaker 3: inning mark that we've seen them both kind of cap
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Speaker 3: at and see. I would love to see what Bryce
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Speaker 3: Miller looks like in the sixth, seventh, and maybe even
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Speaker 3: eighth inning, with how good he's been, I think that'd
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Speaker 3: be really exciting. No matter what Luis does, I think
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Speaker 3: the trend that he's on is really positive. The bullpen
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Speaker 3: being fully healthy allows some more opportunity there. How fun
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Speaker 3: does it have to be, though, to be Dan Wilson
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Speaker 3: right now and making decisions in high leverage games where
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Speaker 3: it's late and it's close with the score and he
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Speaker 3: has every single arm healthy and available to him. How
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Speaker 3: fun is that to lotch Well?
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Speaker 1: I mean, and look, I think Dan sometimes struggles with
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Speaker 1: the That's just my own personal view of it. I've
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Speaker 1: never done it myself, so I've never, you know, obviously
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Speaker 1: been there making these decisions. He's pitching decisions. But I
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Speaker 1: said in the offseason, said a last year, said it
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Speaker 1: this year. Last year when he was just managing to
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Speaker 1: win ball games and didn't have to worry about all
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Speaker 1: the stuff the early season rest and who can go
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Speaker 1: and how many guys pitched yesterday? When he was just
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Speaker 1: managing to win ball games. He did really well, and
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Speaker 1: we went on a run and won the division and
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Speaker 1: nearly made it to the World Series. And so the
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Speaker 1: piggyback kind of gives you that day off where it
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Speaker 1: allows you to I get to use whoever I want,
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Speaker 1: whenever I want to use them. And the biggest reason
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Speaker 1: we won last night, Cole Jung was the star individual player.
11:46
Speaker 1: Emerson was terrific. Josh Naylor had a clutch hit, but
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Speaker 1: four no hit innings from the bullpen, and they all
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Speaker 1: looked fresh as could be. I think that was the
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Speaker 1: reason for the win last night.
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Speaker 3: I agree with you. And Friday was the first game
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Speaker 3: where that was fully deployed and you saw Kirby brash
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Speaker 3: for rare bizarre doo spy or munnos and then Chriswell
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Speaker 3: came into tenth like that was unbelievable usage. And I
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Speaker 3: thought an aggressive decision early in the game. And George
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Speaker 3: Kirby didn't look tremendous, he didn't look like his normal self,
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Speaker 3: but to go out there and get him, I believe
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Speaker 3: it was in the sixth inning when he pulled him.
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Speaker 3: I think George ended up going about five and a
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Speaker 3: third maybe, and then he went out there and got
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Speaker 3: brashed and things went a little bit south in that inning.
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Speaker 3: You know, the d Backs offense came in really hot,
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Speaker 3: but overall this team was able to silence, you know,
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Speaker 3: really quality team. And I don't know if fans saw this,
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Speaker 3: but the Dbacks went home played the Dodgers in one
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Speaker 3: last night four to one. Yeah, so it's not like
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Speaker 3: they just all of a sudden became a terrible team
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Speaker 3: in Seattle. No, the Mariners' pitching staff shut them down.
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Speaker 3: They kept to tell Marte quiet, they kept Corbyn Carroll
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Speaker 3: fairly quiet as well, apart from a couple of hits
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Speaker 3: here and there. But they did such a great job
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Speaker 3: and to have access those weapons. And I think to
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Speaker 3: your point, Chuck, what you just touched on was really important.
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Speaker 3: The time of year really matters. When was Dan Wilson
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Speaker 3: making those I'm only here making decisions to win games.
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Speaker 3: What time of year was that?
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Speaker 1: Late in the season.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so if you want to be able to
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Speaker 3: make those decisions late in the year, you have to
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Speaker 3: have your pitchers healthy and fresh. Have you ever seen
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Speaker 3: gave Spire throw the baseball as well as he is
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Speaker 3: right now? I mean, yes, go back to last year,
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Speaker 3: but this season. No, he threw three fastballs right by
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Speaker 3: Corbyn Carroll on Friday night, and like they pitched around
13:27
Speaker 3: Marty to get to Corbyn and then Corbyn comes up
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Speaker 3: Golden and I are like, uh oh this, like, how
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Speaker 3: do you walk Marte to get to Corbyn Carrol? Because
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Speaker 3: he got cave Spire and then guess what pitch gave
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Speaker 3: Spire threw the three to two counts to the best
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Speaker 3: hitter in Major League Baseball last night, one Soto the
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Speaker 3: fast fastball on the outside. Now he went right after him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.
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Speaker 3: I was floored at that because it would have been
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Speaker 3: so easy to get cautious and careful in that situation
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Speaker 3: and pitch around a very dangerous back. The gay Spire
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Speaker 3: has so much conviction and stuff that boom here it
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Speaker 3: is hit it or don't, It doesn't matter. But yes,
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Speaker 3: it's seems like the first six weeks of the season
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Speaker 3: that's when the manager has to be more cautious with
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Speaker 3: this decision. But not going back to back. It's not
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Speaker 3: stretching guys out. And now as they're getting closer to summer,
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Speaker 3: Dan Wilson can make more of those winning decisions and
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Speaker 3: credit to the starting surplus that they have, they're able
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Speaker 3: to give the bullpen a complete day off, and it's
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Speaker 3: really been working out nicely.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna send that past test audiences to see if
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Speaker 1: they like starting surplus. We're gonna see how that, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: are being right? Are they being pulled right now? Good?
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Speaker 3: They're gonna they're gonna hate it.
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Speaker 1: Well, they don't like piggyback, that's for sure. Ryan Haley
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Speaker 1: is with us. You know, obviously, when you're winning, everything
14:38
Speaker 1: feels good around there. But you know, you did get
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Speaker 1: Cal Raley back in the clubhouse this week, you were
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Speaker 1: around that. How much does that really matter to get
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Speaker 1: you know, that big of a central figure on your
14:51
Speaker 1: baseball club, even though he's not playing, and he's probably
14:53
Speaker 1: still a couple of weeks from playing. How much does
14:55
Speaker 1: it matter to a clubhouse to see your guy come
14:58
Speaker 1: back through the doors a ton.
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Speaker 3: I'm sitting in the dugout yesterday with Rick Riz and
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, this large figure walks by and
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Speaker 3: he's got the mask on, so you have no idea
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Speaker 3: it's Cal. And then he pulls the mask up and
15:12
Speaker 3: he pulls a fist out. He goes, hey, Ryan, how
15:14
Speaker 3: are you? It's like, oh my gosh, that's Cal Rowley.
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Speaker 3: Can you sign this for me? Please? Like they just
15:20
Speaker 3: kind of came out of nowhere, Like he's got this
15:22
Speaker 3: big smile on his face and he just was able
15:24
Speaker 3: to catch a bullpen and just I know for him,
15:27
Speaker 3: Like if you've heard any of his interviews and he's
15:29
Speaker 3: done pregame, he's talked about the difference of appreciation and
15:34
Speaker 3: respect that he has for this team and how talented
15:37
Speaker 3: this team is, and when you're in the thick of it,
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Speaker 3: especially if you're struggling the player, it's hard to not
15:43
Speaker 3: be looking at a mirror constantly about how bad Gore struggling.
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Speaker 3: So for Cal to be taken out of this live roster,
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Speaker 3: in the live lineup and have a different perspective on things,
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Speaker 3: I hope that really helps him when he comes back
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Speaker 3: to say, this team is already really good and I
15:57
Speaker 3: don't have to hit sixty home runs a contribute. I
15:59
Speaker 3: can just do my thing and really help in different ways.
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Speaker 3: And I think he's he's seeing this, he's seeing baseball
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Speaker 3: through a different lens right now than he ever has been.
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Speaker 3: But to your original question, Chuck, having a player like
16:14
Speaker 3: that in your locker room, whether he's playing or not
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Speaker 3: is a game changer. It's the leader. It's the consistent voice,
16:20
Speaker 3: it's a consistent attitude every single day that he brings.
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Speaker 3: Is he is even Stevens in that locker room. You
16:25
Speaker 3: can ask anyone around there. So his presence being around
16:28
Speaker 3: is tremendous for this club.
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Speaker 1: We didn't lose Josh Naylor for any time, did we.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what's a backspasm do to a baseball player?
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Speaker 3: It definitely doesn't feel great. The timing of it was
16:39
Speaker 3: was funky. I know we saw the conversation between Dan
16:43
Speaker 3: Wilson and him, and it sounded like Dan made the
16:45
Speaker 3: ultimate decision because I know Josh was gonna say, hey, coach,
16:48
Speaker 3: take me out of this game, like that's not how
16:49
Speaker 3: players function. It can come and go pretty quickly. I'm
16:53
Speaker 3: eager to see if he'll be in the lineup tonight,
16:55
Speaker 3: But even if he's not, I think a couple of
16:57
Speaker 3: days of treatment can really help that. The backspasms are
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Speaker 3: kind of a normal thing for baseball players. It just
17:03
Speaker 3: depends on what spot of the back it is. Is
17:06
Speaker 3: it more muscle, is it more you know, bone? And
17:09
Speaker 3: from there, if he can maybe not rotate for one day,
17:12
Speaker 3: like hey, take today completely, opt on swing the back.
17:14
Speaker 3: We'll get some treatment and then we'll see how you
17:16
Speaker 3: feel tomorrow. Something like that could really turn things around
17:18
Speaker 3: within a forty eight hour window.
17:20
Speaker 1: Should he Should players steal third more? I mean, it
17:24
Speaker 1: seems like it's easier to steal third. Randy Roserena got
17:26
Speaker 1: there early. I mean they did him some favors by
17:28
Speaker 1: doing the two pickoff moves, so he knew they weren't
17:31
Speaker 1: going to do a third two.
17:32
Speaker 3: Non competitive pickoff moves too.
17:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just handed him third base, which that's stupid,
17:39
Speaker 1: But I mean, it just feels like teams are having
17:41
Speaker 1: so much trouble, like moving a runner to third in
17:44
Speaker 1: that situation. Would you try it once? I mean you
17:48
Speaker 1: can't do it everybody, but you know, a Realse Arena,
17:51
Speaker 1: even a Josh Naylor, they seem to just steal third
17:54
Speaker 1: more easily than they do second base.
17:57
Speaker 3: It takes some ball knowledge to be honest and unders
18:00
Speaker 3: of the game and understanding the pitcher's time and the looks.
18:03
Speaker 3: There's a lot of prep work that goes into that
18:05
Speaker 3: that I know, you know, e y Eric Young Junior
18:08
Speaker 3: does a great job of helping making sure these guys
18:10
Speaker 3: have the right information available to make those aggressive decisions.
18:14
Speaker 3: But there's also like a catch twenty two to a chuck,
18:16
Speaker 3: like what's the goal? On rule baseball, you don't make
18:18
Speaker 3: the first or the last out of third base or home, right,
18:20
Speaker 3: So if you're going to steal third base, you better
18:23
Speaker 3: be one hundred and ten percent that you're going to
18:25
Speaker 3: be safe. And that takes a couple pitches to get
18:28
Speaker 3: the looks down to see what the timing is of
18:31
Speaker 3: the pitcher's leg, but you won't really see a pitchers
18:34
Speaker 3: mixing slides steps with the runner on second base. So
18:37
Speaker 3: if it's if it's a higher leg kick, longer arm
18:40
Speaker 3: from a pitcher, then they know they're going to have
18:42
Speaker 3: about a second and a half. And it gets above
18:44
Speaker 3: one point five seconds, then that's plenty of time for
18:46
Speaker 3: the runner deal to get there.
18:48
Speaker 1: Well, I am going to come to the game tomorrow,
18:51
Speaker 1: so you're going through this series, correct.
18:55
Speaker 3: Yes, sir?
18:56
Speaker 1: Okay, all right? And then when's your next one, uh.
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Speaker 3: End of or middle end of August. I'll come back
19:03
Speaker 3: up for that. And then September, well.
19:05
Speaker 1: That's too long. That's too long. Without Ryan Healy on
19:08
Speaker 1: the call of a Mariner's baseball game I'll talk to someone.
19:11
Speaker 3: I picked all my own games, definitely that year one.
19:15
Speaker 1: So throwing your weight around already, are you?
19:20
Speaker 3: Yeah?
19:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I'll light some fires. So when
19:23
Speaker 1: I'm there at the ballpark, because obviously you want to
19:28
Speaker 1: talk about weight, I.
19:29
Speaker 4: Was gonna say it a fight over who has more
19:30
Speaker 4: poll over there.
19:32
Speaker 1: Who's got two thumbs and a lot of weight with
19:34
Speaker 1: the Mariners.
19:35
Speaker 3: This, I'll be hiding in the booth tomorrow while you're
19:38
Speaker 3: while you're currently raising a storm.
19:42
Speaker 1: Poor Ryan's in the corner like he doesn't speak for me.
19:45
Speaker 3: I just want to be friends, want to be friends.
19:50
Speaker 1: Can you see me going in there just throwing a fit?
19:53
Speaker 1: You should be on more games with honest, I'm happy
19:58
Speaker 1: to be here.
19:59
Speaker 3: I don't know him.
20:00
Speaker 1: Actually, look John, I've had enough. All right, man, Well
20:07
Speaker 1: we'll be listening tonight. I'll see you tomorrow. Thank you
20:09
Speaker 1: very much. We appreciate you.
20:11
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wait, have a great day, guys.
20:12
Speaker 1: All right, Ryan a late joining us right here on
20:14
Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck in the morning. So he does not
20:17
Speaker 1: represent me, all right? Coming up next? Oh wait a minute,
20:21
Speaker 1: coming up now, yeah, we got to do.
20:22
Speaker 2: It now, news, we got a guess what do we
20:24
Speaker 2: have We've got a Seahawks extension. Oh, the Seahawks have
20:29
Speaker 2: reached a three year agreement, three year, forty two million
20:32
Speaker 2: dollar agreement with Derek Hall, who we were just talking
20:35
Speaker 2: about with Rob Staton as somebody that could be important
20:39
Speaker 2: when DeMarcus Lawrence decides to hang it up.
20:43
Speaker 1: Interesting. I did see that flash, and I never and
20:46
Speaker 1: I was too busy, and I couldn't, like, couldn't look
20:48
Speaker 1: at it to the bottom of U gosh, you know
20:52
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna hate about. This is what I'm gonna
20:54
Speaker 1: hate Okay, you're gonna have for the next two hours.
20:58
Speaker 1: Smart ass rams fans, both of them, you know, going, Oh,
21:05
Speaker 1: nice counter. That'll make up for us getting Garrett.
21:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely not the counter. But I'm glad that
21:10
Speaker 2: they locked him up. I like Derek Hall a lot.
21:12
Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, Chris Daniels so will join us.
21:15
Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask him about Derek Hall.
21:17
Speaker 2: That's why I figured we had to get it in
21:18
Speaker 2: right now, because otherwise it was gonna that's a little difficult.
21:21
Speaker 1: Derek Hall, with his new finances, wants to be an investor,
21:24
Speaker 1: a minority investor in the Sonics. He might want to
21:27
Speaker 1: be he actually might want to be. We'll talk to
21:29
Speaker 1: Chris Daniels about that next Sports Radio ninety three point
21:32
Speaker 1: three kJ R f M. I don't know. I think
21:55
Speaker 1: Chris Daniels needs to just start charging a fee, Like
21:59
Speaker 1: I don't know if I know how to feel about
22:01
Speaker 1: something until I hear from him.
22:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're keeping him very busy, you know what I mean? Yeah, No,
22:04
Speaker 5: I get that.
22:05
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, like, just for example, they were just
22:08
Speaker 2: talking about the weather, it's gonna be eighty degrees, How
22:10
Speaker 2: should we feel about that?
22:11
Speaker 5: And then tomorrow seventy with possible showers? I don't know.
22:14
Speaker 1: Well, let's ask Chris Daniels. Yeah. No, I think I've
22:18
Speaker 1: got a pretty good handle on how I feel about
22:20
Speaker 1: the weather. I don't know at this stage of my life.
22:22
Speaker 1: But whenever it comes to something like Sonics related, I'm like, Okay,
22:26
Speaker 1: I read the story, but what is Chris think that's fair? Yeah?
22:29
Speaker 1: So joining us now on the program is Chris Daniels
22:33
Speaker 1: to tell us what to think about the news yesterday.
22:37
Speaker 1: He is, of course, with Como News and has been
22:40
Speaker 1: following the Sonics leaving and trying to return to Seattle
22:44
Speaker 1: for years. Yesterday, we learned that billionaire and philanthropist gosh,
22:50
Speaker 1: I shouldn't struggle with that. That's an easy word. Melinda
22:53
Speaker 1: French Gates joined the Seattle Crack and Ownership Group feeling
22:56
Speaker 1: speculation about NBA expansion bid at the exact same time
23:01
Speaker 1: that a tweet from Chris Daniels, who joins us here
23:04
Speaker 1: on the program, How are you, sir? Good?
23:07
Speaker 6: Philanthropy is a big word. It doesn't always roll off
23:10
Speaker 6: the tom.
23:11
Speaker 1: I know. I just got caught in the middle of it, because,
23:14
Speaker 1: you know, because you can go philanthropy but then philanthropic
23:17
Speaker 1: and then so I got caught in between the two
23:19
Speaker 1: different pronunciations of it and screwed it.
23:21
Speaker 3: Us.
23:22
Speaker 1: Salables are tough, right exactly? Maybe I put the wrong
23:27
Speaker 1: emphastis on the wrong salable. Yes, you're right, all right?
23:33
Speaker 1: So what does this mean then, Chris? When I read
23:36
Speaker 1: this headline of yours, how am I supposed to feel
23:38
Speaker 1: about it?
23:40
Speaker 6: I think it was a low key but big move.
23:44
Speaker 3: Uh.
23:44
Speaker 6: And in the first announcement, you know that through ESPN
23:48
Speaker 6: and through Emily Kaplan was she's investing in the Seattle kracking.
23:52
Speaker 6: But when you dig a little deeper, she's not just
23:55
Speaker 6: investing in the Seattle cracking. She's investing in the Umbrella
23:58
Speaker 6: Organization One Roof which controls now Climate Pledge Arena, the
24:02
Speaker 6: construction of Memorial Stadium, the One Roof Foundation, the Cachella
24:05
Speaker 6: Valley Firebirds, Aftercure Arena. She's buying into that. And that
24:10
Speaker 6: is the group that's being put together to bring back
24:13
Speaker 6: the Sonics and make a bid on an NBA expansion team.
24:17
Speaker 6: And all you have to do is one Google search
24:19
Speaker 6: to know how much Melinda Frenchgates is worth thirty billion dollars,
24:26
Speaker 6: and she gives this group instant credibility. The questions if
24:32
Speaker 6: they do make that bid, and she is part of
24:33
Speaker 6: that bid, those questions about the financial wherewithal of the
24:37
Speaker 6: group go away, we'll see who else is also part
24:40
Speaker 6: of the group. But as they go out and get
24:43
Speaker 6: other investors and put the cross the t's and dot
24:46
Speaker 6: the i's on their financial package that they're going to
24:48
Speaker 6: present to the NBA, she is an extremely extremely credible person,
24:53
Speaker 6: not only in the United States and North America, but
24:57
Speaker 6: globally around the world. Instant credibi and I think also
25:02
Speaker 6: everything that she had to say through the Seattle Krakens
25:06
Speaker 6: social media channels yesterday talked about community and civic engagement.
25:10
Speaker 6: It's what she's been about for the last thirty years.
25:13
Speaker 6: She's from here, grew up within Microsoft, and I think
25:18
Speaker 6: it matches what Samantha Holloway and the rest of that
25:21
Speaker 6: organization have preached thus far since they started in twenty
25:24
Speaker 6: twenty one and everything that they're involved in now. I
25:28
Speaker 6: just instant credibility and instant financial wherewithal to get this
25:32
Speaker 6: across the finish line by the end of the year
25:34
Speaker 6: with the NBA.
25:35
Speaker 1: Did we know that she was a sports fan?
25:39
Speaker 2: No?
25:39
Speaker 6: And I think that you know, the Gates name has
25:42
Speaker 6: been tossed around with all the professional sports franchises over
25:46
Speaker 6: time because of the success of Microsoft, and the thought
25:50
Speaker 6: that either Mackenzie Scott or Milinda French Gates could be
25:54
Speaker 6: interested was you know, a lot of people dismissed it.
25:58
Speaker 6: Clearly Samantha and her team had been working on this
26:02
Speaker 6: for a while. The timing here should not be lost
26:05
Speaker 6: on anybody either. Right before the NBA Finals in the
26:08
Speaker 6: NHL Stanley Cup Finals that this is getting announced. They
26:11
Speaker 6: did something similar months ago with the announcement that Samantha
26:14
Speaker 6: had bought the controlling interests of the arena and started
26:17
Speaker 6: one roof right before the NBA Board of Governors meeting,
26:20
Speaker 6: so the timing here should not be lost. But yeah,
26:24
Speaker 6: I mean this is the first she said. She's never
26:26
Speaker 6: invested in sports before, but because of what she has
26:30
Speaker 6: seen with sports, and I'm paraphrasing what she said on
26:33
Speaker 6: their social media channels, because of the power of sports
26:37
Speaker 6: and bringing community together and what it can do for
26:39
Speaker 6: young people and what the Kraken have already done in
26:42
Speaker 6: places like Northgate and Kirkland. That is why she's getting involved.
26:46
Speaker 1: Chris Daniels is with a senior reporter COMO News and
26:49
Speaker 1: of course says our go to guy everywhere for sonics news,
26:54
Speaker 1: and we had some yesterday with Melinda Frenchgates getting involved
26:58
Speaker 1: in As you mentioned, she has so much money. I mean,
27:01
Speaker 1: is she just a piece to get you across the
27:04
Speaker 1: finish line or is there a chance here, Chris, that
27:07
Speaker 1: she might want to be the majority owner. I mean,
27:10
Speaker 1: she's got that kind of cash.
27:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's a great question. I don't think
27:15
Speaker 6: I've had a straight answer on that yet about what
27:18
Speaker 6: her level of.
27:19
Speaker 1: Interest may be.
27:21
Speaker 6: You know, I think I told you the last time
27:23
Speaker 6: I was on your air and in some ways I'm
27:25
Speaker 6: trying to will it into existence that Mackenzie Scott gets involved.
27:28
Speaker 6: Her name was whispered quite a bit around the Portland
27:32
Speaker 6: Trailblazers before they were sold to Tom Dundan by reputable
27:36
Speaker 6: reporters down in Portland who clearly were having her name
27:38
Speaker 6: whispered in their ear as a potential buyer.
27:42
Speaker 1: Boy, oh boy.
27:43
Speaker 6: Mackenzie Scott and Melinda French Gates have teamed up on
27:48
Speaker 6: the new park down on the Seattle waterfront that will
27:51
Speaker 6: open later this week, Centennial Park in Myrtle Edwards. That's
27:54
Speaker 6: been a two year long renovation. They put their private
27:57
Speaker 6: money into that as part of a public private partnership.
27:59
Speaker 6: So I've had my eye on McKenzie somehow getting involved
28:06
Speaker 6: at a certain point too, whether it's with the Seahawks
28:08
Speaker 6: or with this organization, because that both McKenzie and Melinda
28:16
Speaker 6: are here in the community and if you're trying to
28:20
Speaker 6: sell this sell potentially a new franchise to the community
28:23
Speaker 6: as well, that does matter. We saw what happened when
28:27
Speaker 6: the Sonics left and who they were purchased by. But boy,
28:30
Speaker 6: if you had Samantha and Melinda and say a McKenzie involved.
28:35
Speaker 6: That is I think the best case scenario for everyone involved.
28:40
Speaker 6: And again that's a little bit of me willing it
28:42
Speaker 6: into existence. But there is a story shaping up right
28:45
Speaker 6: now where I think there could be a great story
28:48
Speaker 6: to tell, not only for potential ownership group in Seattle,
28:52
Speaker 6: but also for an ownership group to go to the
28:54
Speaker 6: NBA and say we want to be the new owners
28:55
Speaker 6: of the Sonics and all female, all female owners, which
29:01
Speaker 6: I think would also be a heck of a heck
29:05
Speaker 6: of a story to you know, round it out after
29:09
Speaker 6: twenty years, after everything the community went through, to have
29:12
Speaker 6: civically minded, community focused owners in charge of a new
29:16
Speaker 6: franchise who have the financial wherewithal where you're not going
29:19
Speaker 6: to have to worry about it out of the gate.
29:21
Speaker 6: I mean, again, this is a little bit of me
29:23
Speaker 6: talking here versus what they're saying, but I think it
29:29
Speaker 6: could be you know, for the NBA too, that that
29:31
Speaker 6: story would be a heck of a story to latch onto.
29:34
Speaker 1: I think, no doubt, no doubt. All Right, so what's next?
29:38
Speaker 1: What has to happen from here?
29:41
Speaker 6: Well, I think there's a potential that this this comes
29:46
Speaker 6: up either with Gary Bettman before Game one or with
29:50
Speaker 6: Adam Silver before Game one. There's there's an NBA Board
29:53
Speaker 6: of Governors meeting. I think a lot of people know
29:55
Speaker 6: at this point in July, and there's not an expectation
29:58
Speaker 6: that the NBA is going to make some sort of
30:00
Speaker 6: final decision at that meeting. Adam Silver has already indicated
30:04
Speaker 6: that when meeting with reporters a month or so ago.
30:07
Speaker 6: So we're looking to potentially September October for that NBA
30:12
Speaker 6: Board of Governors meeting, or even through the end of
30:15
Speaker 6: the year. I mean, Adam Silver has said it's going
30:17
Speaker 6: to be done at some point this year, one way
30:20
Speaker 6: or the other, and so I kind of zero in
30:22
Speaker 6: on an early fall. But I remind everybody the NBA
30:28
Speaker 6: last expansion with the Charlotte Hornets in December of two
30:31
Speaker 6: for an four start, So that's not out of the
30:34
Speaker 6: realm of possibility. But the bottom line is, if the
30:36
Speaker 6: NBA is going to do this, they want to have
30:38
Speaker 6: a couple of year head start for actually launching the
30:41
Speaker 6: franchise to get everything in order.
30:43
Speaker 1: If I were to try and express my confidence that
30:48
Speaker 1: the Sonics were coming back, would you recommend that I
30:52
Speaker 1: just get a custom made key chain, or do you
30:55
Speaker 1: think that I should just go and take my vehicle
30:59
Speaker 1: and just go custom Sonics green and yellow with Sonics
31:02
Speaker 1: twenty seven on the license plate or maybe even emblazoned
31:07
Speaker 1: along the side. What should be my confidence level right now?
31:10
Speaker 1: What should I purchase?
31:10
Speaker 6: Well, I wouldn't get a car with twenty seven. Maybe
31:13
Speaker 6: twenty eight, Okay, I'd start with the keychain. Start with
31:17
Speaker 6: the keychain. Get the keychain first, then see you know
31:21
Speaker 6: the early fall, how the tea leaves are going, and
31:25
Speaker 6: who these other investors are. Keep in mind, I think
31:28
Speaker 6: this was a low key strategic move from the folks
31:31
Speaker 6: over at kCi without without listing all their names and
31:36
Speaker 6: the people they have lined up. They don't They've said
31:38
Speaker 6: it over and over. We don't want to get ahead
31:40
Speaker 6: of the commissioner. They're still waiting to hear from the
31:44
Speaker 6: financial firms that have been hired by the NBA to
31:47
Speaker 6: solicit the bids. So they are they're taking a very
31:50
Speaker 6: cautious approach to what they are publicizing. But having Melinda
31:56
Speaker 6: French Gates also in the group, if there's another group,
32:01
Speaker 6: and I keep hearing whispers there's another group, And Adam
32:04
Speaker 6: Silvers said he expects multiple bids if there's another group
32:08
Speaker 6: that's trying to put together their money as well, having
32:11
Speaker 6: Milinda French Gates in the other camp may scare you off.
32:16
Speaker 6: Knowing that what she stands for the community and knowing
32:19
Speaker 6: the financial wherewithal that she brings to a potential ownership group.
32:22
Speaker 1: You are the man. Thank you very much, sir. We
32:24
Speaker 1: will bug you soon. I'm sure.
32:27
Speaker 6: Always great to talk and good luck with the Salabils.
32:30
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, thank you. I'm going to need that.
32:32
Speaker 1: Chris Daniels joining us right here on Chuck and Buck,
32:36
Speaker 1: Senior reporter at Como News. You can follow Chris and
32:39
Speaker 1: you need to be at Chris Daniels Underscore TV, Big
32:43
Speaker 1: TV star, that guy big, just the best, big, you know,
32:46
Speaker 1: big knowledge in that head of his lots and knowledge. Yeah,
32:49
Speaker 1: and so we lean on him pretty heavily for this
32:52
Speaker 1: stuff and we appreciate him joining us here today. Coming
32:54
Speaker 1: up next, one last thing to close out our Tuesday
32:57
Speaker 1: show on Sports Radio ninety three point three k JRFM.
33:12
Speaker 1: All right, the final segment of the radio show here
33:15
Speaker 1: on this Tuesday, which means we have time for one
33:18
Speaker 1: last thing. Actually, where are you going?
33:22
Speaker 2: Well, first, I'm going to turn my microphone on. Then
33:24
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, so we had something to figure
33:26
Speaker 2: that out long, I know I should have that should
33:28
Speaker 2: have been important. But we had some responses to the
33:31
Speaker 2: idea of the starter surplus.
33:34
Speaker 4: I believe that.
33:35
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, surplus.
33:37
Speaker 2: So it was a mixed audience fifty to fifty on
33:40
Speaker 2: who if people liked it or didn't like it, But
33:42
Speaker 2: we did get some suggestions on the Tacoma Dodge Tech. Yeah,
33:47
Speaker 2: let's see. This one was the double feature. This is
33:51
Speaker 2: from the two five to three. They actually gave us
33:52
Speaker 2: two suggestions that I liked them both. So the double
33:54
Speaker 2: feature or a twofer.
33:56
Speaker 1: A two fur or a double feature. I don't like.
33:59
Speaker 1: I really that we've overdone the piggyback thing, and I
34:02
Speaker 1: think that it was. I realized that it was sort
34:05
Speaker 1: of toxic when it first started and then we had
34:09
Speaker 1: to repeat it. But actually it's got a really nice
34:11
Speaker 1: ring to it. So I'm gonna need some hear something
34:13
Speaker 1: really special, all right.
34:14
Speaker 2: We've also got this one from the two oh six. Well,
34:16
Speaker 2: I just had a weird accent there. H here's the
34:18
Speaker 2: name to replace the piggyback ice cold beer miller on
34:24
Speaker 2: the rock.
34:25
Speaker 1: Oh, I see, let's see we're getting right for ice
34:30
Speaker 1: cold beer here today Mariner's TV.
34:32
Speaker 2: I mean that does a good ring to it, because
34:33
Speaker 2: if anytime you say ice cold beer, people tune in,
34:36
Speaker 2: they listen, they're like, I'm sorry, what did they say?
34:37
Speaker 1: Mariner's and the Angels here today, hyphen what do we
34:41
Speaker 1: think of ice cold beer day? Another ice cold beer day? Yeah?
34:46
Speaker 1: How's it sound?
34:46
Speaker 2: Summer in Seattle? We got ice cold beer? Okay, I
34:50
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just I get what you're saying.
34:52
Speaker 5: I enjoyed the creativity of our listener.
34:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something that you're like. I like the ring
34:56
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, And so if we attach that to
34:59
Speaker 1: the situation, then maybe we wouldn't feel as bad saying
35:03
Speaker 1: it over and over right.
35:04
Speaker 5: I mean, who's gonna get sick of a saying ice
35:06
Speaker 5: cold beer?
35:07
Speaker 1: Right? I mean, you don't see a guy go through
35:08
Speaker 1: the stands like a vendor going piggyback. No piggyback.
35:12
Speaker 5: People would pummel him.
35:13
Speaker 1: But he will go through the stands yelling out ice
35:16
Speaker 1: cold beer, and you never get sick of it.
35:17
Speaker 2: And ice cold beer, all right, that's it as we got.
35:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I liked.
35:25
Speaker 1: Him, Master Blaster, I know, I've used that in past expressions.
35:30
Speaker 1: I've used that with Ryan Sloan, Yeah, and Kate Anderson.
35:34
Speaker 2: I like the way it sounds, but not for this
35:35
Speaker 2: particular situation.
35:42
Speaker 5: Oh, good work. But the problem is.
35:44
Speaker 1: Man and Robin.
35:45
Speaker 2: The problem is there Batman and Robin flip flop, right,
35:48
Speaker 2: they're not always you don't always get the same bat
35:50
Speaker 2: Man and Batman.
35:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's probably a different show.
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Speaker 1: All right. Well, I don't know. I'm going with piggyback
35:58
Speaker 1: until somebody can come up it because I kind of
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Speaker 1: like the I don't even think we've gone far enough
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Speaker 1: using it, like we go who's down in the piggy pen?
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Speaker 5: I mean, I would.
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Speaker 4: Agree, let's embrace it fully.
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Speaker 2: I think it's funny because people have sent messages like, well,
36:10
Speaker 2: if you guys hate it so much, wednting can change it,
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, we haven't hated it. I'lained about the
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Speaker 2: name at all. It's just softy who hates it. We're
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Speaker 2: not going to change it because it's called piggyback.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because people know what we're talking about when we
36:21
Speaker 1: mention it. That's the cool thing about words.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they mean something weird.
36:26
Speaker 1: Right, Like if I say sofa. You know exactly what
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about.
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Speaker 2: But if you say I'm gonna go sit on the
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Speaker 2: plum plum, nobody knows.
36:36
Speaker 1: No, they're a plum plum.
36:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you'd want to give it a try, but
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Speaker 2: you wouldn't know what we're talking about.
36:42
Speaker 1: This weirdo with his palm plum city.
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Speaker 5: That guy brought his plump plumb here.
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Speaker 1: All right, I got buy one last night. I have
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Speaker 1: two gray ones I could. I'm gonna have to choose
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Speaker 1: just the one. I'm gonna go with this one today
36:54
Speaker 1: because I think it's more timely. Rick Adelman passed away
36:59
Speaker 1: and of course had some Sonics connection, but a long
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Speaker 1: career in the National Basketball Association. And I was thinking
37:06
Speaker 1: about like that statement where people say, boy, I wish
37:10
Speaker 1: you could have an event where you got to tell
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Speaker 1: people how much you appreciated them before they passed, because
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Speaker 1: we usually do that after they passed. And then there's
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Speaker 1: this big, you know, twenty four hours of social media eulogizing,
37:24
Speaker 1: and then obviously they'll they'll be doing some sports talk
37:28
Speaker 1: radio in Denver about Rick Adelman and elsewhere. And I
37:33
Speaker 1: don't know if he rises to the level here in
37:36
Speaker 1: Seattle of somebody that we were going to spend a
37:39
Speaker 1: ton of time talking about here at KJAR. But and
37:44
Speaker 1: this is the hard part, this is the difficult part.
37:47
Speaker 1: It got me thinking about George Carl and I'm like,
37:52
Speaker 1: it would be nice if we could, as a radio
37:55
Speaker 1: station maybe do some like appreciation shows, maybe just on
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Speaker 1: Chuck and where we do appreciation shows. But I also
38:03
Speaker 1: don't want it to sound like we're saying to someone
38:07
Speaker 1: they're about to die.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like we think you're close to death, so let
38:10
Speaker 2: us tell you how great we think you are.
38:11
Speaker 1: So is there a middle ground there where we could
38:14
Speaker 1: do like some appreciation shows. Maybe we start with a
38:18
Speaker 1: really young person. Maybe we start with like a marsh
38:21
Speaker 1: On Lynch or something like that, or you know, somebody
38:24
Speaker 1: that doesn't We don't feel like would take it that way.
38:28
Speaker 1: And so you just set the standard by going with
38:31
Speaker 1: somebody young and you don't call them like, hey, it's
38:34
Speaker 1: the about to Die podcast, it's the you know, it's
38:37
Speaker 1: a appreciation show. I think people would love it because
38:42
Speaker 1: I love hearing the stories of athletes about other athletes
38:46
Speaker 1: or about coaches that they had, and then you could
38:49
Speaker 1: infuse like a lou Panela in there somewhere along the line. Yeah,
38:53
Speaker 1: I don't want it to sound like we're getting ready
38:57
Speaker 1: to have the person's funeral, but I think that that
39:00
Speaker 1: would be something that that person would love to have,
39:06
Speaker 1: as long as they weren't insulted. I see what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do see what you're saying.
39:09
Speaker 2: And how great would that be if you got to
39:11
Speaker 2: just sit there and listen to people talk about your
39:13
Speaker 2: accomplishments and what you meant to them.
39:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there a way to do it that we
39:18
Speaker 1: could do, especially in the summer. I mean, there's really
39:20
Speaker 1: not any downtime anymore in sports talk radio. There used
39:23
Speaker 1: to be, but maybe in July you had a little
39:25
Speaker 1: bit of downtime that we could try out, Maybe an
39:28
Speaker 1: appreciation show. I mean, it take a lot of work
39:31
Speaker 1: to try to get those people to come on the
39:33
Speaker 1: show and talk about them, So it's not like we
39:35
Speaker 1: it's something we can just throw together on a Wednesday.
39:38
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I mean, I would like to
39:42
Speaker 1: know how much people appreciated me if I was getting ready,
39:47
Speaker 1: you know, if my career was over. And it's more
39:50
Speaker 1: of that the career's over, you're not gonna do anything else.
39:52
Speaker 1: Marshaw Lynch isn't gonna take any more carries, but he's
39:55
Speaker 1: obviously not close to death by natural causes. Uh, And
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Speaker 1: so I don't know, maybe that's something that we could
40:03
Speaker 1: think about doing that in the future.
40:05
Speaker 2: I think that could be fun celebrating the successes of
40:08
Speaker 2: somebody and Seattle sports fans love stories of Seattle past,
40:13
Speaker 2: and just to be able to spend a show here
40:15
Speaker 2: and there.
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Speaker 1: I think people would tune in and not be able
40:18
Speaker 1: to tune out if we did like a three four
40:21
Speaker 1: hour special on you know, some Seattle on Ken Griffy Junior.
40:26
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know, and then just just have his
40:28
Speaker 5: former teammates.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we had him here in studio and for
40:31
Speaker 1: the whole four hours, and then you.
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Speaker 4: Got to catch up with the people that are talking
40:35
Speaker 4: about him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's what it made me think of last night.
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Speaker 2: I think that's great, and you know, you could find
40:41
Speaker 2: things that you could work it around, like the Sonic's
40:44
Speaker 2: coming back.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 4: We want to.
40:45
Speaker 2: Appreciate George carl and all he's done in the sport
40:48
Speaker 2: that he's given to getting a team back here, Ken
40:50
Speaker 2: Griffy Junior. The Mariners are doing their fifty best players
40:52
Speaker 2: of all time.
40:54
Speaker 5: There you go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well anyway, just a thought that I had to
40:57
Speaker 1: close out the show today. All right, we'll talk to
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