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Fat Joe: Greatest Michael Jackson Stories · Get Familiar with Clinton Sparks

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  Speaker 1: What is the most shocking story you heard from somebody
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  Speaker 1: that you can't believe that they told you this story?
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  Speaker 2: Greatest story I've ever heard is true. And they're both
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  Speaker 2: involving Michael Jackson. Clinton Sparks, get familiar. Joseph! Yo, Blaine Sparks,
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  Speaker 2: I love your setup. Another level of excellence. You know
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  Speaker 2: what we do. What's going on, my brother?
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  Speaker 1: Man, a lot's going on. You know what's funny, Joe?
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  Speaker 1: That when I mentioned you earlier, somebody said I need
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  Speaker 1: to understand what Joe's skin care regimen is. How is
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  Speaker 1: your skin so... Why do you still look so fucking young, Joe?
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  Speaker 2: Yo, thank God, bro. Hallelujah. But, I mean, like, it's
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  Speaker 2: just Dove soap. My mother's skin is smooth like I
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  Speaker 2: think it's hereditary. I think so.
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  Speaker 1: You know, at some point, you know, are we going
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  Speaker 1: to stop saying fat before your name? Because you look great, Joe.
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  Speaker 3: I may have missed something to you I never admitted
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  Speaker 3: nowhere else is I spent so many millions of dollars
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  Speaker 3: marketing Fat Joe that it wouldn't not make sense to
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  Speaker 3: spark the Slim.
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  Speaker 2: Joe or whatever. I don't have enough money to promote
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  Speaker 2: not so Fat Joe as we have Fat Joe. The
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  Speaker 2: artist formerly known as Fat Joe. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but at this point, Joe the Don, I think
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  Speaker 1: everybody knows. Do you know what's fascinating is that, you know, one,
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  Speaker 1: you used to be the artist, right? Now you've flipped
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  Speaker 1: the script and you're interviewing people, like trying to take
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  Speaker 1: my job and everybody else that's put 20 years of
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  Speaker 1: work into this. Like, I ain't out here trying to
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  Speaker 1: be a rapper and take your position, Joe, but you're
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  Speaker 1: out here being an interviewer and a great interviewer too,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, you know, because it's just so natural.
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  Speaker 1: You're just having conversations, right? And like, what made you decide,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to just start talking to
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  Speaker 1: people and bringing all these people and start becoming an interviewer.
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  Speaker 2: What made you decide to do that? You know, there's
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  Speaker 2: two levels of it. The first reason I really, really
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  Speaker 2: started was I started looking at hip-hop documentaries. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 2: they were lying. They weren't telling the truth, right? You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm from the Bronx, the birthplace of hip-hop. And so
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  Speaker 2: these documentaries was lying. And then when the credits came
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  Speaker 2: on at the end, I see why they switched it
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  Speaker 2: up to go towards their narrative And the actual executive
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  Speaker 2: producers were like people we respect. Right. They were changing history.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, you know what? 20 years from now,
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  Speaker 2: a kid ain't going to know no better. They're going
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  Speaker 2: to watch these documentaries and think that's true. Right. So
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  Speaker 2: I said, you know what? I would rather interview Snoop Dogg.
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather interview Busta Moms. I'd rather interview Brock Kim
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  Speaker 2: and find out the true story behind it. Out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: He's never seen this coming. I never seen it coming either,
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  Speaker 2: but it was with good intentions.
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  Speaker 1: One of the reasons I became successful in radio is
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't ask the cliche, typical questions like, who
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  Speaker 1: you working with on the album? You know, what was
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  Speaker 1: it like working with this dude? Or even try to
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  Speaker 1: instigate beef. I was never the guy that wanted to,
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  Speaker 1: if anything, I was the guy that was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: why do you guys have to beef, man? Like, you're
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  Speaker 1: a cool dude. He's a cool dude. I talked to
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  Speaker 1: you both. Like, I know that you guys are good dudes.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to be people in your crew. that are
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  Speaker 1: instigating this. Can we just make up? Do you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like even back at one point when,
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  Speaker 1: remember when Lox were mad at Puff about the publishing?
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  Speaker 1: Kiss was at my house. I was working on a record.
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  Speaker 2: There was these kids.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever heard of them. They
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  Speaker 1: were called Chester French. They were these two white kids
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  Speaker 1: from Harvard. They sounded like the Beach Boys meets the Beatles,
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  Speaker 1: but like had like a.
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  Speaker 2: Nerd, like Pharrell nerd vibe to them.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone was trying to sign these dudes, right? So Kiss
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  Speaker 1: came by my house. I was like, I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: condense the story because it's a long story. this is
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  Speaker 1: when I had a deal with Puff with Ciroc and
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  Speaker 1: I was the Ciroc boys. So they were like, man,
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  Speaker 1: how do you, and I was Puff's DJ at the time.
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  Speaker 1: So they were like, how do you get, how'd you
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  Speaker 1: get down? They were asking me questions that like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people ask people that are doing well, how did you
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  Speaker 1: do that?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And as they're asking me, Wale, cause these kids were
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  Speaker 1: hot at the time. Wale texts one of them and says, yo,
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  Speaker 1: Diddy's talking about you guys on Twitter. So these are
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  Speaker 1: like 17 year old kids from Harvard. Like, oh shit,
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  Speaker 1: this is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So they hit up, They responded, and then I was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: you know what we should do? We should make a
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  Speaker 1: song called So Rockstar and get Puff on it. So
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  Speaker 1: now fast forward to Kiss being at my house, I
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  Speaker 1: play a beat. I was like, yo, we're doing this record.
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  Speaker 1: You should jump on this. He's like, yo, Sparks, man,
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  Speaker 1: this shit is kind of hot. It's got a rock vibe, man.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with it. You know Kiss, right?
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  Speaker 1: So then I'm like, dope, here's the thing. Puff's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of it too, right? And he's like, yo, Sparks, man,
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  Speaker 1: what you.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to do, man?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, come on, man. You guys got
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  Speaker 1: to make up, man. Like, let's just have a conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Let me call Puff. Just get on the call with
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  Speaker 1: him and sort it out, man. It's just some grown
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  Speaker 1: men shit to do. Here's what's bothering me. Here's what
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  Speaker 1: you can do to fix it. Can we sort this out?
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  Speaker 1: And like, I've always been a fan of resolution, right?
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  Speaker 1: And they got on the phone.
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  Speaker 2: We did the.
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  Speaker 1: Record and the rest was history. No more of them
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  Speaker 1: being mad at each other. You know, I love what
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  Speaker 1: you do, too. You know, talking about your son, for instance.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I know that that really inspired even DJ Nasty.
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  Speaker 1: It inspired him to then talk about his son.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's hard, man. We in a cool game
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  Speaker 2: where people like to see your weakness. If you meet
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  Speaker 2: and you think thin skin, it can hurt you. And
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  Speaker 2: so what happened to me was, you know, I've always
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  Speaker 2: rapped these, you know, my... My reputation of being the
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  Speaker 2: tough guy. Yeah. And my son's autistic and I didn't
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  Speaker 2: think that he deserved people dissing him or dragging him.
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  Speaker 2: You know, hip hop could be heartless. Right. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you are right. Due to so many parents who realized
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  Speaker 2: that I had an autistic kid or kid in the
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  Speaker 2: spectrum kept hitting me up and hitting me up and saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we We got the same issues. We got
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  Speaker 2: the same problems. We need you to speak up, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: And so I became more transparent and showed my son
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more and talked about autism and things
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  Speaker 2: like that just to help everybody and let everybody know
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  Speaker 2: that we all go through the same problems and the
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  Speaker 2: same issues. And see, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: For some odd reason, you know, when people become successful,
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  Speaker 1: those that, you know, celebrity-wise, the people that are not,
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  Speaker 1: seem to forget that you're a regular person.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And they hold you at a different regard. And like,
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  Speaker 1: you could be going through regular problems at home with
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  Speaker 1: your family or your wife or your girl or your
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  Speaker 1: kids or finances. And it's like, you know, people need
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  Speaker 1: to lay off, you know, holding people like, man, but
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  Speaker 1: you fat Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I got a heart and I got feelings
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  Speaker 2: and I got a family, bro. Like, just like you.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that this year really brought down, it's
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  Speaker 1: something I've always championed and always, did in my interviews
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  Speaker 1: was to bring people, you know, so people could see
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  Speaker 1: that they're human just like you.
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  Speaker 2: You know, last night I had dinner with Nori. Nori's
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  Speaker 2: the last of the Mohicans that has 72 guys with him,
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  Speaker 2: the entourage of the... He's the last one. It still
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  Speaker 2: goes to Mr. Chow with 60 guys, right? So he says, Joe,
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  Speaker 2: come with us. We ate great, but we had a
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  Speaker 2: real conversation on the table because I did Norris show
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  Speaker 2: Drink Champs and I had talked about my issues with
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  Speaker 2: Big Pun's wife and stuff like that, without alluding to
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  Speaker 2: what I was talking to to everybody, because they was
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  Speaker 2: asking me questions. It's like, yo, bro, I'm a human
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  Speaker 2: being too. I have emotions, right? I have a heart.
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  Speaker 2: I have feelings. You know, I always got to be
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  Speaker 2: the bigger person, right? You know, I could get dragged.
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  Speaker 2: I could get talked about. I could get this. And
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  Speaker 2: I always got to be Fat Joe, the bigger person.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what about me? What about my feelings? Right.
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  Speaker 2: What about my heart? You know, what about my emotions? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What about your fears? What about your insecurities? What about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all those things you think about at nighttime, like.
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  Speaker 1: fuck man, I wish, regrets. Like everybody has these things.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, people don't realize like, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not always in the studio making a hit record. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not always doing shows. I'm not always doing killer shit
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  Speaker 1: or buying Louis Vuitton and Gucci.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm struggling with my kid. Sometimes me and my
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  Speaker 1: wife are disagreeing. Sometimes I'm tripping over like this fucking
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  Speaker 1: bill that I'm like, why is this bill so expensive?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And then like, People will be like, you, Joe, you
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  Speaker 1: got it. But damn, dude, but maybe I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to spend it on that dumb shit.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't got it. Right, right. So maybe, so maybe,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I have this recurring dream that hits me
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  Speaker 2: every couple of months. And it's of an animated project
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  Speaker 2: building with arms and legs chasing me, like trying to
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  Speaker 2: bring me back. to the projects. Wow. I always split
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  Speaker 2: a negative to a positive and use it as motivation
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  Speaker 2: to keep me working and just keep going. You know, because,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we grew up so poor. We grew up
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  Speaker 2: with nothing that no matter how much money you have,
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  Speaker 2: you never truly feel like it's impossible to fall back
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  Speaker 2: in a hole or go in a situation like that. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's why I continue to work hard and
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  Speaker 2: grind so hard and try to elevate as a businessman.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be fooled by thinking because you made your dreams
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  Speaker 1: come true that you escaped your nightmares. Don't be fooled
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  Speaker 1: by thinking because you made your dreams come true that
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  Speaker 1: you've now escaped your nightmares.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't that the truth? It is, man.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of people think like, oh, man, you
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  Speaker 1: rich or you're on TV or you got this car
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  Speaker 1: or you got that. It's like you don't know that
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  Speaker 1: I'm still dealing with sexual abuse when I was a
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  Speaker 1: kid or abandonment from my father or like what my
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  Speaker 1: mother doing drugs or being bullied. Like you don't know
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  Speaker 1: what lives and it doesn't go away. You become a
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  Speaker 1: grown man. Like you said, you got to be fat Joe.
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  Speaker 1: You got to tuck all that away and just be
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  Speaker 1: this tough guy, fat Joe. And sometimes people don't even
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  Speaker 1: realize that's what made Joe the tough guy. I had
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  Speaker 1: to be tough to survive. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: That's a fact.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And people don't know. They didn't personally realize. If I
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  Speaker 2: grew up in the suburbs with a family that had money,
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  Speaker 2: I'd have been a doctor or lawyer. I'd have been
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  Speaker 2: a nice guy.
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  Speaker 1: Even that's presumable because you assume a kid that grew
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  Speaker 1: up there might have had better opportunities, right?
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  Speaker 2: They could have still had a dad that beat.
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  Speaker 1: The shit out of them. They could have had a
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  Speaker 1: mom that, you know, that ruined their family.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know. Everybody has their own problems. That's my point, right?
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  Speaker 1: And we just got to give people, we got to
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  Speaker 1: give people a break and we got to give people
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  Speaker 1: some slack.
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  Speaker 2: We're all humans. We all make mistakes. We all just
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  Speaker 2: want to be loved. We all just want to win
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  Speaker 2: and get a hug. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Joe, one of the things that I've always loved about you, bro, like,
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  Speaker 1: Aside from being an amazing performer, an amazing MC, an artist,
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  Speaker 1: I've been a Fat Joe fan from day one. Before
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: I was Clinton Sparks the DJ, I was playing your
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  Speaker 1: records in my bedroom. And when I became friends with you,
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  Speaker 1: I just admired the way that you were always, you
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  Speaker 1: could have the fucking biggest hit on the record. You
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  Speaker 1: were still just a regular dude that was humble and
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  Speaker 1: grateful for the people playing your record.
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  Speaker 2: I still like that. I know you are. I still
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  Speaker 2: like that. And you can see, you got to play
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  Speaker 2: this game out, man. You know what I mean? You
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  Speaker 2: got to realize that, you know, what happens is some people,
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  Speaker 2: they're gifted. They have opportunities. And hey, they deserve it.
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  Speaker 2: They made their dreams come true. Right. Right. But that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean you're holier than thou. That doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 2: you're better than everyone else. That doesn't mean that you're
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  Speaker 2: some type of God on the earth. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: should never forget where you come from. And the job is,
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: everybody who goes up in the hood says, yo, I
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: want to get out of here. All right, fine. There's
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  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with getting out of here. But could you
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  Speaker 2: at least, when you climb up the ladder, put your
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  Speaker 2: arm out and try to help the next person who
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  Speaker 2: wants to come up behind you? That's what it's always
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  Speaker 2: been for me, right? For me, it's always been about
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  Speaker 2: helping others succeed. Right. Helping others get an opportunity. How
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  Speaker 2: big of a stake do I need? Right. Share it
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  Speaker 2: with three or four of us. And show them the blueprint.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what it's about for me.
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  Speaker 1: And show them the blueprint of what you've built. Like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: here's the road I paved. You can walk up it now, too.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: And by the way... And by the way, it.
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  Speaker 1: Won't hurt to show a little appreciation to this road
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  Speaker 1: that I paved for you guys. One of the things
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about is the loyalty that you had.
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  Speaker 1: And even halves to this day. Like, you've always been
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  Speaker 1: someone that everybody in hip-hop recognized as... One, don't fuck
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  Speaker 1: around with Joe and his crew. Was one of the
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  Speaker 1: things that you knew not to do.
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  Speaker 2: And two.
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  Speaker 1: was if Joe likes you and you do right by Joe,
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  Speaker 1: he's a loyal dude. I can't even tell you how
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  Speaker 1: many free shows I've seen you give, how many drops,
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  Speaker 1: how many freestyles, how many radio station visits. It was
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: never enough. And it's funny because when I think about
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  Speaker 1: the legacy artists that have had insane success and are
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  Speaker 1: still around and relevant today, they've all had that same mentality,
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  Speaker 1: like a you or a little John or a Pitbull
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  Speaker 1: or like these guys that were always, yeah, what do
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  Speaker 1: you need, bro?
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  Speaker 2: What do you need? I got you.
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  Speaker 1: That's why you guys still matter. And that's why you're relevant.
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  Speaker 1: If that's not an example for aspiring artists now that
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  Speaker 1: are watching or listening to see they are still relevant
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: at fit. By the way, it blows my mind how
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  Speaker 1: great you look and the fact that you, is it
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  Speaker 1: true that you dropped All the way up at 50
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  Speaker 1: years old? Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: All the way up was dropped at maybe like 46
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  Speaker 2: years old. Like, that's fucking incredible.
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  Speaker 1: And like, you know, the internet makes kids feel like
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  Speaker 1: if they're not a billionaire by 19 now, they failed.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Nipsey Hussle had it right. This game is a marathon. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And you don't want to just be an overnight success where,
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: you know, you don't have it no more. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you want to build this up. You know, you want
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  Speaker 2: to build up whatever business you do, whatever career, whatever
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  Speaker 2: you do, you want to build this up over time. Right.
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  Speaker 2: A hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: Whether that's being an artist, whether it's being an entrepreneur,
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  Speaker 1: starting a new business, it's the same.
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  Speaker 2: Rules are applicable to anybody. Don't be a dick.
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  Speaker 1: Treat people well and be grateful for the things that
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: people do for you. One of the, you know, I
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: got a funny story for you, Joe. Another funny story
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: is remember Hot 93.7 in Connecticut?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: You were a huge, huge supporter. And Victor Starr and
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: everybody was a big supporter of everything you dropped.
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  Speaker 2: The Starr was a great guy. He is a great guy.
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  Speaker 1: One of the best to ever do it. You could
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  Speaker 1: literally shoot on a record and he would put in rotation.
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  Speaker 2: He was a great guy.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny because you were so loyal to that station.
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  Speaker 1: Remember we used to have those... those mix show lunches
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: where artists would come and we eat and we'd talk
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  Speaker 1: about the record. So it was funny because.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody, I don't want to call names. I don't want
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: to cause any trouble, but.
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  Speaker 1: There was somebody at the time that was down with
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: you that you guys weren't down cool with each other anymore.
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  Speaker 1: And it was funny because that person came to push
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: a record. And I walk into the meeting and all
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: of our DJ friends are there that you and I
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: both know.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: And I walk in and I'm like, what is he
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: doing here? literally right in front of them, right? They
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: were like, oh, he's got a new record. I was like, what?
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Are you guys wilding?
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: And they were like, what do you mean? And then
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: that dude was like looking at me like, yo, is
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: there a problem? I was like, well, yeah, no disrespect,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: but like Fat Joe is our boy and super loyal
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: to this station and supports everything we do. And it
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: would be wildly disrespectful if we were at this moment
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: when you guys are not at the greatest relationship right
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: now to behind his back support your music. And he
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: was like, well, I respect that. I understand what you're saying, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: And I was like, do you mind leaving the room
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: for a minute?
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: And he left.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: And now I'm looking at our friends and I'm like,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: why the fuck would you guys ever even consider this
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: when Fat Joe is our fucking boy, right?
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: So then I go into the bathroom and that person's.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: In the bathroom and I'm standing next to the urinal
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, there's two sides to every story.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: And I go, be that as it may, I go,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: and maybe you have a side that's justifiable. But the
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: fact is my loyalty is with Joe. And I think
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: you should respect that. And he was like, all right, man,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I respect that.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: And that was that. That's a beautiful story. You know,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: loyalty is everything for me. Anybody who's been loyal to me,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I've always had their back one million percent. Yeah. And,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: you know, we all make our choices. You know, I
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: had I made some terrible choices in my life, in
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: my career. You know, one time, you know, I had
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: beef with Jay-Z. I had beef with 50 Cent. These
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: guys became the billionaires of the rap game. And I
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: was like, yo, I fucked up. Like, hey, this was
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: not a sworn move.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Wait, so in the moment of having problems with a
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Jay-Z or a 50, and they started, like, growing, you
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: actually thought, shit, I made a mistake by.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Beefing with these guys? I'd have been a hallucinator. To
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: not know, I ain't fuck up. Like, I was like, yo,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: these guys, we came the biggest guys in the game. Right.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: So now let's just say, I don't want to allude
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: to it because they're both my brothers now, but, you know,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: they stopped a lot of my money. Right, right. As
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: far as the beat. Somebody who probably wanted to throw
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: me a check was doing business with them and was like,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: just like you. You told old boy, yo, you got
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: to leave. We can't listen to your music because you
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: got a problem with my man. Yeah. There's other guys
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I sat down with, other guys who wanted to give
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: me a check, but was like, yo, you got problems
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: with my man.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: You got problems with my man. And we told him
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: a million dollar check. And so I learned. I said, wow,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: this ain't good.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: It just goes to show that fighting and beefing never
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: results in positive endings.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Never, ever, ever. It's not worth it. It's not worth it.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: It's not worth it. Let's sort this out, guys. What's
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: your problem with me? Let's sort it out.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: If I disrespected you, let me own up to it,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: and we'll get past it, and then maybe we can
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: do some dope shit together.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Or just not beef. If you still don't fuck with me,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: that's fine, but we don't got to beef. Well, you
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: know now we keep it all positive. Yep. Because, you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: we're losing too many of the youth. Too many of
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the youth are fighting over actual music, like killing over music. Right. No,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: that's happening now. Before... You know, 50 Cent beef with everybody.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Thank God he dead. Me, I had many beefs. But now,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: you know, we used to think it was entertainment. Now
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: it's entertainment. But these young, young kids, they're killing off
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: with these records. I don't know, Joe.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: It was pretty wild back in the day. I remember
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: there was always a stabbing or something happening like in.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: The 90s or early 2000s. These guys ain't even big rappers.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Like these are like demo rappers chilling over it. Right. Yeah,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: it's crazy.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're doing the most to keep it real.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: For the gram. Really, it's for the gram.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Imagine if Instagram was around, you know, when New York
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: was on fire.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: We'd be in jail now for 30, 40 years. Lean
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: back days? If social media was around?
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Joe, what woman played a significant role in helping your career?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: What woman kept you grounded and was the one that
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: would always be like, Joe, I don't think it's smart.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't do that. I wouldn't say my wife, but
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: she's Colombian and she always wanted me to walk. Really?
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: She loved the tough guy. Yeah. All the time. If
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I listen to her, I've been under the jail because
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: she She'd be like, that's not a problem. Kill him. Oh,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: my God. Get familiar. Oh, my God. I'm like, what?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Just fucking off him. Just off him. Just send your
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: boys over there. I'm like, come on. This ain't a
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: fucking movie. You not only had to calm your own emotions,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: you had to then calm hers. Yeah, because, you know.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: On the flip side, she taught me everything I know
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: as far as me cleaning myself up, how I dress,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: how I think about business. She's always been my backbone. Right.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: But when it's come to beefs and violence... Man, listen,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: she was like, you know, go get those guys. She
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: don't like nobody talking about her man or whatever the
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: case may be, right? So I would say she played
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the most significant part. My daughter's very, very, very, very
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: supportive of me. Yeah. My mother raised my son, Joey,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: my oldest son, so I could have a career. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: was going to ask that. Well, you were out being
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Fat Joe.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously your son needed even more attention. Like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: how were you able to handle that? That was your
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: mom stepping in?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: My mom's and my father, you know, we've always had
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: help for Joey since he was born. That's amazing. Joey
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: has never been alone, even when he sleeps. Yeah. So
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: while Joey's sleeping, there's somebody sitting there looking at him.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Got it. While he's sleeping to this day. That's a
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: lot of love. And so we make sure, you know, because,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: you know, Joey does the ball. Joey does, he can't
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: tell you he's hurt. You know, he could really hurt
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: himself if you lose sight of him for one minute. So,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: you know, we had to be on top of him.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: But if it wasn't for my mother, I wouldn't have
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: no career. Right.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Well, shout out to your mom. Shout out to your
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: wildlife for instigating those beefs.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: We got to give her one. One for her. Lick
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: a shot for her.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: So, you know, being a wonderful father, first of all, that's,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you know, I love you to death for that. Um, because,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I, I, my biggest
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: pet peeve.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Is deadbeat dads.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Um, and they're the worst, they're the worst guys in
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the world.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, my biggest pet peeve is child molestation. Oh, of course.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: That's right up there. It's small. Two worst things. These
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: people should die. And deadbeat dads, like, how do you
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: create a child that, And turn your back on them
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: and not there for them. And you think you bought
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: them a pair of socks. You know, it's really amazing.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I don't understand it. You know, my son's mother, when
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: she found out that he was autistic, she was like, yo,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not raising him. I'm going to give him up
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: for adoption. Oh, wow. And my mother and father and me,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: we stepped in. We're like, hell no, he's ours. And
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: so she never seen him after that. She might have
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: came to one or two birthdays. Pretend like she's a
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: mother and she was out. Oh, so your son's real
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: mother is not in his life? Never in his life. Oh, man.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Sorry to hear that. Ever. So she wanted to give
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: him up for adoption. So this deadbeat mom's stupid. I
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: don't understand these people. Like, I will cross deserts. I
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: will do whatever I got to do for my kids.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: So I don't understand people like this. You know, a man,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: even a man who gives his son two pairs of sneakers,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: And thinks he took care of him. Right. If you
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: ask him, yeah, I looked out for my son. I
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: gave him two pairs of sneakers on his birthday. Right. Yo,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: but what about the other 364 days of the year?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Crazy, bro.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: And then, by the way, the ironic part is that
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: same dude that's not a father is out here trying
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to get his rap career off. What a clown. What
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: a clown. Or like trying to holler at girls. Like,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: how do you even, as a man, feel good about yourself?
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: To say to a girl, yo, you should get with me. Like,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I would feel like a complete fucking loser and unworthy
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: of anybody thinking that.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I'm dope if I just left some dude. Well, that's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: why you are who you are and who I am.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: And there's some people out there. You know, the world's
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: full of a lot of bad energy.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: You know? And so we got to keep the good
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: energies out there and bring them to the light like
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: the single sunshine on the light. Yes. Too many people
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: are up to no good. Right. Horrible people, man.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: So you mentioned equally as bad as deadbeat dads is
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: child molesters. Is that something that you've encountered as a child?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: No, it's the lowest thing. I think it's worse than murder. Right. Agreed.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: And so I think I don't believe in second chances
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: for child molesters. I think they should kill them. I
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: always say, like, you know, I think You rape a kid,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you should die. It's just my opinion because I don't
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: think they're ever going to change. I don't think this
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: is some therapy shit to change. You know, they go
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: to jail and then they come out here and they
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: rape another kid and kill a kid. Like, I have
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: no sympathy for these people. Neither do I.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I am somebody that's a victim of that for many
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: years when I was young. So I totally get those
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: that have went through it and it lives with you forever.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm okay. It's not something that I struggle with.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Did you wish he died?
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: No, you know, I always grew up with a different
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: mind frame. My mind frame was more like dissecting people's
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: brains in why they do the things they do. That's
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: how I've always been since I was young. So when
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I see somebody do something wrong, I really get into
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the psychology of what's wrong with them. What happened to them?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Why do they need this? What feeling do they get
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: from it? Like, what's the objective of doing this? Do
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: they know what they're causing to somebody? So I've always
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: been that way. And I think it was probably because
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: of being molested. Um, it started me to think, no,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: it was before that. Cause I remember like, I was
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: always like the only white kid in my neighborhood. So
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: when I would see like all these Spanish kids, there
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: was a Spanish kid that would like beat the shit
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: out of this stray dog. And I remember, I remember
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: when I was like eight thinking like, why would he
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: do that? Cause that dog was my friend, you know?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Cause I had no friends. That dog was my friend
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and he, and he didn't like me. So because he
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: knew I liked the dog, he beat the shit out
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: of the dog. And I remember thinking, that was my
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: very first thought of like, why would somebody do that?
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so I've always been, that's why I'm so
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: big into resolution. Because I understand everyone's not built the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: same and everyone has different traumas and everyone has different
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: ways of.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Dealing with it.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Again, I'm on the same page as you with child molesters.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: There's no excuse for that.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: You're out of here.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: You fucking, you revoke your ticket to being here on earth.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: But like everybody else, like there's other, there's things going on.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: True, I think about these things, like why people do
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: it or whatever the case is. But when it comes
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: to child molesters, drop a bomb on them. Collapse the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: building on them. Right.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: So that's what, Joe, you've done so many great things.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: What do you most want to be remembered for? If
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you got to watch all of us at your eulogy,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: at your funeral, what is the overall consensus you would
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: want to feel?
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Inspiration, you know, inspire people to succeed, to never give up,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to give back, to open businesses in your community, to
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: do philanthropy, most of all. And loyalty has always been
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: my thing. And so just... People talking about his loyalty,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: you know, and people coming up out of nowhere that
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: nobody knows. It could be a guy from Arkansas who
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: lost their job as a radio personality, and they'll come
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: up to you and say, you know, when I got
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: fired and I was crying and I thought my life
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: was over, Fat Joe hired me. You know, stories like
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: that where my kids could sit around and say, wow,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: my dad He is a great guy.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: He impacted a lot of people positively.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: And he went through a lot of trauma. Right. Growing up,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of evil around me, a lot of violence,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of obstacles. And he still managed to look
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: positive at the world and try to give back to
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the world. I mean, that would be the greatest honor
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: for me.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Right. And I think that's how people, in fact, will
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: talk about you and speak about you. In the unfortunate time,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: 50 years from now, when you maybe pass on. But
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: one of the other things too, I don't know if
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I have all the information right, but what I heard
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: sounds amazing and I'm super proud of you and excited
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: at the outcome. But obviously, whenever I think of Big Pun,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I think of you, right? And your association with him
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: and You know, I look at you as the guy
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: that introduced him to the world. What I've heard was
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: recently you reverted all of his royalties and publishing back
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: to his family.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Is that correct? They've had it for years. After he
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: passed away, I gave them the rights to Big Punt.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Because I never made a dollar off Punt. Right. He
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: was always unrecooped. And, you know, there was this back
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: and forth with, I think Joe's stealing his money, it's
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: this and this. So I got sued. His wife sued me.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: And then in the mitigation, the judge tells her, I
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: don't know why Mr. Cartagena is here. Like, you know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: this guy doesn't owe you nothing. Yeah. never stole from you.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: He doesn't owe nothing. This, that. And so I asked
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: my attorney in that meeting, I said, how does this
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: never happen again? How does these people don't accuse me
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: of stealing from them, ruining my reputation and this? And
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: he said, well, You just give them everything back. All
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: the rights, everything. And I just said, well, then do that. Right.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: I just gave her the rights and gave her everything. And,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: you know, it's crazy because everybody, you know, that's what
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: she wanted, the rights and all that. And so now
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: when they start speaking about doing a big pun movie
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: or doing anything like that, they keep saying, oh, we
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: need Joe to do it. We need Joe. But bro,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: y'all didn't want to show the ball. What are you talking?
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Nobody wanted Joe involved. Nobody, you know, you got everything back.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: You live in a, like, on top of that, you
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: want me to do it? Right. It's a horrible place
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: to be in. It is, for sure.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: It's difficult because you love the dude and you obviously want,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you don't want his family to be, you know, kept
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: away from his legacy and what's coming to them.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: So, you know, it was the right decision.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And unfortunately, you had to go to court for it
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to come to that point. You've interviewed a lot of
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: people during your show. What is the most shocking story
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: you heard from somebody that you can't believe that they
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: told for your story?
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Greatest story I've ever heard is true. And they're both
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: involving Michael Jackson. Right. Bobby Brown came on my show
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: and said he taught Michael Jackson how to do the moonwalk. Yeah, please. Oh,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: my God. First of all, first of all, that's some
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Boston shit. Let's go, baby. But, yo, how is that?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Do you think that's true? I want to believe Bobby Brown,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: and I want to think that he said it out.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Would he truly? I believe that Bobby believes that. Now,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I've been hearing that the guy from Chalamar Talk Michael
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Jackson how to moonwalk. Right. So when I went to
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Emanuel Lewis and I went to everybody that actually knows
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: MJ and all that, they say the guy from Shalimar.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: The second one was... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Before you move on to the second, because that's a
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: really big claim. So when Bobby said that to you,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: because my response would have been what you just seen.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: What was your response? Signed. But I believed Bobby Brown because,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: you know, it's Bobby Brown.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: But Bobby Brown would have been so when Michael Jackson
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: first did the moonwalk. First of all, we'd have to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: find out the date that he first publicly did it.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Bobby would have been. He did it at the Motown.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: 25th anniversary, but the thing is that Aubrey Brown was
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: hot at that time. Was he?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Because what year was the Motown anniversary?
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Because I know that's... New Edition was hot since they
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: were three years old. Mr. Telephone Man.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: So, Bobby Brown apparently taught Michael Jackson how to do
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the moonwalk and revealed that to you.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: He's never said that before publicly. No, he revealed it
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: to me. All right, and what's the second shot? The
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: second one was I had Reverend Al Sharpton Good reppin'
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: on the show. And you know, Reverend Al Sharpton was
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: raised by James Brown. So, Reverend Al said... Wait, literally?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Like as a dad? Or musically? Like a dad. Reverend
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Al and James Brown's son grew up together in church.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: And they were preaching together. And then James Brown's natural-born son,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: he died in like a car accident. Got it. When
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: they went to the funeral, James Brown said, you're the
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: kid that used to be my son. You're going to
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: be like a son to me. And they literally, that's
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: why Reverend Al had the hairdo, James Brown hairdo, trip
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: him like the sun.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Now, James Brown passes away, rest in peace. Four in
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: the morning, Reverend Al gets a phone call. It's from
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: the morgue. And they say, Mr. Sharpton, uh, Mr. Jackson
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: is here. Can we let him see James Brown? Michael Jackson. Yeah.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: So he says, sure. And so Michael, he said he
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: got on the phone with Michael. Michael, we would love
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: to see you at the funeral. This is the time
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Michael was in controversy and all that. He's like, yo,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I don't want to go there. Right. People, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: too much controversy, whatever. He said, OK. He ended up
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: showing up to. But Reverend Al said he called back
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: like an hour later and told the mall guy, yo,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: he said, how long he sit there? He said he
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: sit there for an hour. And he said, well, what'd
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: he do? He said, well, he talked to Mr. Brown
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: and he asked me for a comb. And he combed
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: James Brown's hair the way James Brown wore it. The
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: mortician or whoever styled his hair had it wrong. Wow.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: And Michael Jackson was saying, Mr. Brown wears it to
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the right. So he combed James Brown's hair. That was
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: mind-blowing to me. This shit is great. That's true respect
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: and love right there. I'll tell you that. I mean,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: that was designed. Yeah. All the dance moves came from him. Yeah,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: there's a bunch of things. Those are the two most
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: legendary stories that come to mind. What we're going to
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: do right now, Joe, is we're going to play a game.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: And in this game, we're going to rifle off questions.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: And if you get them all right, I'm going to donate.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: $ 100 to your favorite charity.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Well, here we go.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Live with Clayton Sparks, it's Fat Joe. We're going to
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: fire off a bunch of questions at him, and if
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: he answers these questions right, he's got one shot only,
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: one incorrect answer, and it's over for you folks. If
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: he gets it right, we're going to donate $ 100 on
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: behalf of Fat Joe to his favorite charity. I need
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: the sound of a ticker because Joe needs to feel
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: the urgency of answering these before it runs out of time.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I'm going to answer them fast. I'm going to answer
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: them fast. Okay, we're going to answer them fast. All right, ready?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: We're going to go through these fast. Do we have
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: any other kind of music? Hold on. Do we have...
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: What is this music? This is too big. It's too big.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: That music's too big. Hold on. It's too excited. Oh,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: you know what we should do? Here we go. Can
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: you hear... Oh, you can't hear it? Damn it, I'm
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: playing Shotgun.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I was playing Shotgun, one of my favorite records ever,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: ever in the history of hip-hop.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: We're going to start now, and we've got 30 seconds
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: to answer these, and we're going to donate $ 100 to.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Your favorite charity. What charity would that be? Juvenile Diabetes.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Juvenile Diabetes is what we're going to do. All right, ready?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: We're going to fire off these questions. You've got three
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: seconds to answer each question. We're going to fire right
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: through them. Fat Joe, I'm going to answer these questions.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: If he answers them all right, we're going to donate
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: $ 100 to juvenile diabetes. And we start with this one.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Fat Joe, have you ever been punched in the face
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: by a girl?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Yes. Has a grown man ever made you cry? Yes.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Have you ever spoiled your pants during a show but
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: kept performing?
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: No.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Have you ever blew out candles on a birthday cake
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and wished to be Skinny Joe with that wish?
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: No.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Do you ever pee sitting down because you're too tired
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to stand up?
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: No.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Have you... Like, that's the weirdest. No, the way you
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: answered that was like, no, Clinton, why would I ever
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: do that? I'm thinking about it.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it might be a late night and you're
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: just like, I'm just going to put my pants down,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: sit down.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I don't want to stand here and piss. I'm just
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: going to sit down. Nah. All right.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Have you ever got stuck with what question to ask
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: a guest next and just laugh a little bit longer
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to pass time to think of what to ask next? Okay, cool.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Have you ever stubbed your toe and inconveniently broke your toenail?
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: And then when you put on socks for a couple
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: of weeks, it would catch on the small piece of
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: your toenail left. No.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Have you ever stopped making sweet love because you had
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: to go pee? No. Okay. Have you ever given a
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Roman helmet? I don't know what that is. Okay. We'll
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: just going to go. Okay.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: We'll have to come back to the judges. What's your
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: favorite snack item?
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: My favorite snack item is ice cream. Okay. That's right.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Do you enjoy drive-thru or going into the store better?
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Going into the store. Have you ever been electrocuted? No.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Multiple choice question. Throughout your life, when you jumped in
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: a pool, how many times have you yelled Geronimo?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Six times? 29 times? 67 times? Or too many times
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: to count? Never. Here's the last one. Here's the last one.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Do we want to help the juvenile diabetes or what?
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: All right. Last question. If you ever swam naked in
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: a freshwater lake, would it still be considered skinny dipping
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: with Fat Joe? If Fat Joe swam naked in a
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: freshwater lake, would it be considered skinny dipping? Yes, it
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: would be. Let's go. We're going to help the kids.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Thanks to Fat Joe.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Joe, love you, brother. You are one of the best
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to ever do it, man. You're such a great father,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: a great emcee, a great man. Thank you for what
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: you've done for hip-hop.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you for what you've done for culture. Thank you
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: for always being a friend to me. I love you, brother.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you, my brother. Done for love, man. It was
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: an honor to be on here. Shout out to your family,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: your wife, everybody out there, man. God bless you, my brother.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: That will conclude this evening's entertainment.