Latest / I Am All In with Scott Patterson / One on One: Nick Holmes
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I Am all In.
- 0:08Speaker 2: You, I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast, one
- 0:24Speaker 1: on one interview with Nick Holmes. Nick played the role
- 0:28Speaker 1: of Robert for four episodes two thousand and five six.
- 0:31Speaker 1: He also appeared in Revival's final episode Fall. His first
- 0:35Speaker 1: appearance was season five episode seven, You Jump, I Jumped Jack.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Last appearance was season six episode eighteen. The Real Paul
- 0:43Speaker 1: Anke A Year in the Life. He appeared in Fall.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Robert is a rich kid and a student at Yale University.
- 0:50Speaker 1: He's arrogant, pompous, and self involved. On a date with Rory,
- 0:54Speaker 1: he makes it known his sole goal in life is
- 0:58Speaker 1: to cheat his sibling out of their inheritance and leave
- 1:02Speaker 1: it to a parrot.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Despite his family.
- 1:05Speaker 1: He was born August fourteenth, nineteen eighty one, Dodge City, Kansas.
- 1:09Speaker 1: He's an actor editor known for Guardians of the Galaxy
- 1:12Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, Super twenty ten, The First Blood War two
- 1:18Speaker 1: thousand and eighty. Has been married to Virginia Madison since
- 1:21Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Let's bring him in, Nick, how are you?
- 1:25Speaker 4: I'm dying mind?
- 1:26Speaker 1: Scott good terrific so tell us a little bit about
- 1:30Speaker 1: how you got your start in this career.
- 1:35Speaker 4: I did dinner theater when I was a kid, and
- 1:43Speaker 4: and then when I moved to Los Angeles at the
- 1:46Speaker 4: rest of my several directors that I worked for in
- 1:52Speaker 4: that genre, which is a very specific genre. Luckily I
- 1:56Speaker 4: was too young to have to actually go out during
- 1:59Speaker 4: the braes and poor drinks. I moved to LA and
- 2:06Speaker 4: I made a living doing commercials for many years, and
- 2:12Speaker 4: then trying and trying to get on television, and Gilmore
- 2:18Speaker 4: Girls was my first television job.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Oh great, So what do you remember about the casting
- 2:25Speaker 1: part of it?
- 2:26Speaker 4: The casting part of it was very flattering to me
- 2:30Speaker 4: because I originally auditioned for the pilot and I loved
- 2:36Speaker 4: the script and I wish i'd kept it, the physical
- 2:39Speaker 4: copy of it when that was a thing. And they
- 2:44Speaker 4: had me auditioned for Dean, which of course, you know,
- 2:48Speaker 4: Pedalacic got and it was incredible ad And then they
- 2:54Speaker 4: had me auditioned for Tristan, and for my memory doesn't serve,
- 3:03Speaker 4: but Mark Casey, one of the casting directors who later
- 3:10Speaker 4: really changed my life, and Jane Rudowski remained a fan
- 3:16Speaker 4: of me and kept bringing me back. M m and
- 3:19Speaker 4: then I got lucky and they had me auditioned for
- 3:24Speaker 4: this part that required a marksman, which I am, and
- 3:29Speaker 4: that's when I finally got rolled.
- 3:31Speaker 3: I could speak fair a marksman.
- 3:35Speaker 1: The role required you to be a marksman of firing weapons.
- 3:39Speaker 4: Yes. In that episode for you, it's called you Jump
- 3:46Speaker 4: I jump Jack and I think you had to have
- 3:48Speaker 4: a golf game, yes with Richard. And meanwhile I got
- 3:55Speaker 4: to be my first line of work. Do you care
- 3:58Speaker 4: to hear about this bit?
- 3:59Speaker 3: I too, I want to hear all of it.
- 4:02Speaker 4: My first night of work was in Griffith Park in
- 4:04Speaker 4: a part that's normally shut off, and they had set
- 4:07Speaker 4: up this football field long. It was a sweeps episode,
- 4:12Speaker 4: so they were spending the money. It footbar one hundred
- 4:17Speaker 4: yard long, set like it was from out of Africa,
- 4:21Speaker 4: and everybody was dressed like it was from out of Africa,
- 4:25Speaker 4: and it was just whimsical. And it was at night,
- 4:29Speaker 4: you know, I think my cold time was like ten pm.
- 4:34Speaker 4: So I got there and I met the rest of
- 4:39Speaker 4: the Life and Death Brigade who had already done episodes together.
- 4:44Speaker 4: And I hated Tank, said, just hated him because he
- 4:51Speaker 4: was so handsome and comfortable and seemed to know everybody,
- 4:57Speaker 4: and now we're great friends, had been for years and years.
- 5:01Speaker 4: And met Matt zu Green, who's you know, is the
- 5:09Speaker 4: sweetheart he appears to be. I mean, he plays, you know,
- 5:14Speaker 4: a cheating liar on the show, but he's he's just
- 5:17Speaker 4: a lovely human, one of the nice people I've met,
- 5:21Speaker 4: one of the nicest people I've met in show buds,
- 5:25Speaker 4: you know. So I get there and meet the director
- 5:33Speaker 4: Kenny Ortega, who remains a friend, who's a lovely man,
- 5:41Speaker 4: who did that wonderful he was producing that show for
- 5:44Speaker 4: Michael Jackson when Michael Jackson died, and then it made
- 5:47Speaker 4: that documentary about it. He's a lovely man. That side note.
- 5:57Speaker 4: So first night at work, meet every Matt Zuckery is
- 6:02Speaker 4: sitting on his trailer steps sort of just strumming the guitar,
- 6:09Speaker 4: not being not being a you know, not being a
- 6:11Speaker 4: show off, just playing around in the beautiful air. And
- 6:18Speaker 4: we made up a song together called give Me Back
- 6:23Speaker 4: My Bacon Sandwich. You beautiful, of course beautiful. So that's
- 6:31Speaker 4: funny to think about it. I haven't thought about this
- 6:32Speaker 4: a long time anyway. So rehearsal comes and it's my
- 6:38Speaker 4: first time to meet Alexis, and she's exquisitely simple and
- 6:45Speaker 4: lovely and kind to me and is trying to make
- 6:49Speaker 4: me feel comfortable, which I wasn't. And we go to
- 6:55Speaker 4: shoot the scene, and if you rewatch it, you'll see
- 7:00Speaker 4: that my first shot they which they used, is a
- 7:05Speaker 4: wide where I walk into frame and I don't stop
- 7:09Speaker 4: swinging my arm even though I'm holding still, and I
- 7:13Speaker 4: could never take my eyes off that when I rewatched it.
- 7:17Speaker 4: And then I got a flat tire on the way
- 7:21Speaker 4: down the hill that night and it's you know, like
- 7:24Speaker 4: five am, so I had to deal with that, So
- 7:27Speaker 4: that's memorable. Then the following day was shot at the
- 7:33Speaker 4: Disney Ranch north of Town North Villa, and that's when
- 7:38Speaker 4: we did the That's when I had to do the shooting,
- 7:43Speaker 4: and there was a there was a time crunch and
- 7:51Speaker 4: we had this big shot to do, multiple shots to do,
- 7:56Speaker 4: and Amy was mad, and a lot of people because
- 8:01Speaker 4: I got the job because I was marksman, came down
- 8:06Speaker 4: from the crew trailers to watch me shoot. And on
- 8:11Speaker 4: the first of what Amy decided was she wanted to
- 8:16Speaker 4: do a long tracking shot instead of individual things so
- 8:19Speaker 4: we could pick it up and get it done before
- 8:21Speaker 4: the sun went down, and the DP was like, I
- 8:27Speaker 4: don't know, and I don't know that gentleman's name. It
- 8:31Speaker 4: was certainly a talented fellah. But I think he got
- 8:35Speaker 4: fired right then because Amy asked the assistant DP, it's
- 8:41Speaker 4: like can you do it? And he was like yep,
- 8:45Speaker 4: and she was like you take over.
- 8:47Speaker 3: So I don't know.
- 8:48Speaker 4: I don't know if think I got fired, but he
- 8:49Speaker 4: got dismissed. And so there's this long tracking shot across
- 8:57Speaker 4: a lot of dialogue of course, that goes around behind
- 9:00Speaker 4: me wherein I am already shooting, and then you've got
- 9:08Speaker 4: these platforms where men in tuxedos are being launched in
- 9:14Speaker 4: the air across from each other, and that's what I'm
- 9:17Speaker 4: shooting at, and so I have to hit one when
- 9:22Speaker 4: I when they get behind me. That's why they hired me,
- 9:26Speaker 4: and because I'm so handsome m h. And so again
- 9:34Speaker 4: time crunch, sun's going down, very little light left. They
- 9:40Speaker 4: do the first pass and there was no U. There
- 9:45Speaker 4: was only a props person. There wasn't a somebody who
- 9:49Speaker 4: knew anything about guns, and so I didn't get to
- 9:52Speaker 4: handle the weapon first and try it, so it wasn't
- 9:56Speaker 4: dialed in. I didn't. I didn't. I wasn't familiar with it,
- 10:01Speaker 4: and so I had a few minutes two try it out.
- 10:06Speaker 4: And so we do this long tracking shop with all
- 10:09Speaker 4: the dialogue goes around behind me, and the guys are
- 10:13Speaker 4: getting launched in the air and the gun's on safety
- 10:15Speaker 4: and I don't realize it. So I ruined it. If
- 10:19Speaker 4: I remember the sentence right, Amy said, mother nature is
- 10:23Speaker 4: gonnas in the air, and we have to do this
- 10:26Speaker 4: right now. And so I felt a great deal.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Of prayer Amy Amy. Amy's very colorful, to.
- 10:35Speaker 4: Say the least. Anyway, after that, I got it dialed
- 10:44Speaker 4: in and we out it over and over again, and
- 10:48Speaker 4: then I had just one of bush one of those
- 10:53Speaker 4: things that only show business can give you is then
- 10:58Speaker 4: she was like, let's just get some roul of you
- 11:00Speaker 4: shooting guys. And so for the next half hour until
- 11:04Speaker 4: the sun went down, stunt men and tuxedos were getting
- 11:09Speaker 4: launcht in the air and I would shoot them. And
- 11:17Speaker 4: when I was asked back for my next episode, because
- 11:23Speaker 4: you know, it's a bit of entertainment.
- 11:25Speaker 1: We thought we thought that that was one of my
- 11:29Speaker 1: favorite scenes in the entire four or five seasons up
- 11:35Speaker 1: to that point, where those were those guys flying through
- 11:38Speaker 1: the air getting shot.
- 11:39Speaker 3: I just thought it was hysterically.
- 11:41Speaker 4: Funny, just just whimsical.
- 11:43Speaker 1: You know, really terrific. Yeah, Amy drops in these scenes
- 11:48Speaker 1: that just take you by surprise, and there.
- 11:51Speaker 3: They're just.
- 11:53Speaker 1: God, what do you what can I compare them to?
- 11:55Speaker 1: I mean you almost feel like you're watching a Fellini
- 11:58Speaker 1: film at some point, you know, a little points here
- 12:02Speaker 1: and there in certain episodes it's like, here's this great
- 12:06Speaker 1: European flavor from a great director. It's almost like it's
- 12:10Speaker 1: an homage to somebody, you know.
- 12:12Speaker 4: The one of the one of the great treasures of
- 12:16Speaker 4: having been a fan of the show, having auditioned for
- 12:20Speaker 4: it all those years, but also watching it it was
- 12:24Speaker 4: you know, it was didn't have TiVo then, so it
- 12:28Speaker 4: was you know, like appointment viewing. You got to watch
- 12:33Speaker 4: gilmbor girls like you schedule stuff around it. And so
- 12:38Speaker 4: it was a huge fan of the show. When I
- 12:39Speaker 4: got the gig, and one of the great privileges was
- 12:46Speaker 4: when invited back for the Netflix reunion, well, it's to
- 12:51Speaker 4: be able to shoot and stars hollow in full realia
- 12:56Speaker 4: because that wasn't my storyline, you know, like I'd never
- 12:59Speaker 4: have to I never have to be there. You know,
- 13:04Speaker 4: I think you and I I encountered you two times
- 13:09Speaker 4: that I can remember. Once you were getting five o'clock
- 13:13Speaker 4: shadow done by makeup because you were clean shaven for
- 13:17Speaker 4: a reshoot. And then the second time, if I remember right,
- 13:22Speaker 4: you were riding a bike around wb going from one
- 13:26Speaker 4: place to another.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Oh. I was always doing that, Yeah, yeah, on our
- 13:29Speaker 1: on our downtime, I'd get on a bike and ride
- 13:33Speaker 1: around just to get a little air.
- 13:35Speaker 4: Well, as a fan of the show.
- 13:38Speaker 1: To suddenly see basically I was stalking others, you know,
- 13:41Speaker 1: big time celebrities, trying to get their trailers, trying to
- 13:44Speaker 1: meet them.
- 13:46Speaker 4: I support this behavior some thing, but you know, just
- 13:51Speaker 4: a funny thing to having not worked in television much
- 13:56Speaker 4: just commercials, to suddenly have Scott Patterson writing past just
- 14:03Speaker 4: going hit. It was a very memorable moment. Oh back
- 14:11Speaker 4: to my point, doing the Netflix revival, it was so
- 14:17Speaker 4: wonderful for me to be able to have such a
- 14:23Speaker 4: stylish experience in starts hollow because it was all made
- 14:32Speaker 4: up and you know, shooting golf balls off the roofs
- 14:37Speaker 4: back and forth and being in the market and it
- 14:43Speaker 4: was just cool. It was just cool that you know,
- 14:46Speaker 4: it's one of those things that as an actor you
- 14:53Speaker 4: don't forget, not because just because it was a great experience,
- 14:57Speaker 4: but because it mattered to me as a fan and
- 15:03Speaker 4: as a person. Sorry, I get emotional talking about.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Oh, don't never apologize for that obviously means a great
- 15:10Speaker 1: deal and appreciate your candor. It's what who was that
- 15:16Speaker 1: that guy on Seinfeld who always it's.
- 15:19Speaker 3: Gold, Jerry, It's Gold. Who's you also appeared in? Well?
- 15:26Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this. First of all,
- 15:27Speaker 3: is there.
- 15:28Speaker 1: Anyone on the cast that you still stay in touch with?
- 15:33Speaker 4: Uh? Tank Satan and I are still friends. But who's
- 15:36Speaker 4: become a closest friend? And I had to fight for
- 15:39Speaker 4: this friendship his Liz tour Is. I tried to get
- 15:45Speaker 4: close to Liz Tours at every cast party and and
- 15:49Speaker 4: she was just like she was just not having it.
- 15:54Speaker 4: She just thought I was a creep, which is fair.
- 16:02Speaker 4: But now I see her multiple times a week. She's
- 16:09Speaker 4: she lives down the street nice and uh, I worship her.
- 16:14Speaker 4: She's yeah, it's It's one of the great privileges of
- 16:19Speaker 4: this experience of the show to have Liz Torres in
- 16:23Speaker 4: my life in any kind of regular way, but we've
- 16:26Speaker 4: gotten close, very nice.
- 16:29Speaker 3: Give her my best I will.
- 16:32Speaker 4: And Shelley Cole of course, because you did that, You
- 16:37Speaker 4: did that beautiful show with the w B. When they
- 16:39Speaker 4: read that was so beautiful to be all made up
- 16:45Speaker 4: and be able to encounter it.
- 16:47Speaker 3: It was nice.
- 16:48Speaker 4: And Shelley stayed with me when she came to town
- 16:52Speaker 4: for them, and uh so, Shelley and I are close,
- 16:56Speaker 4: and you know, it's been just a wonderful community to
- 17:02Speaker 4: be a part of. They've been supportive of me in
- 17:09Speaker 4: many ways. I got two books that were in the
- 17:15Speaker 4: Amazon top ten mm hmm. And I'm certain it's because
- 17:19Speaker 4: of the Gilmore Girls mm hmm. You know that that
- 17:23Speaker 4: community and things like that, and there's not a place
- 17:27Speaker 4: I go in the world. And my wife's actress. I think,
- 17:30Speaker 4: you know, m I think you worked together on something.
- 17:35Speaker 1: I've never had the privilege of working with Virginia.
- 17:39Speaker 4: You were on a show anyway.
- 17:42Speaker 1: I worked with Well, I worked with her brother Cool.
- 17:46Speaker 1: I worked with Michael Cool. You know, Michael Madson and
- 17:50Speaker 1: I crossed paths for the first time, interestingly enough, because
- 17:55Speaker 1: we just watched the Tarantino the Pulp Friction episode.
- 18:00Speaker 4: Yeah, my beginning, so right.
- 18:02Speaker 1: So, Michael Madsen and I first crossed paths at the
- 18:06Speaker 1: audition at the final, final, final audition to play mister
- 18:12Speaker 1: Blonde in Reservoir.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Dogs over at Fox.
- 18:16Speaker 4: What a trip.
- 18:18Speaker 1: And then I got to do and I obviously he
- 18:20Speaker 1: got it and he was great in it, and I
- 18:24Speaker 1: just was pissed off for a year because it was
- 18:29Speaker 1: like seventeen auditions. Yeah, he's He's a brilliant, brilliant guy
- 18:35Speaker 1: and maybe one of the great screenwriters of all time.
- 18:39Speaker 4: Oh and True Romance is one of my favorite screenplays ever.
- 18:42Speaker 1: It's it's have you ever have you ever dug into
- 18:45Speaker 1: to all of us, like read all of his screenplays
- 18:47Speaker 1: because you know you can you can download or at
- 18:51Speaker 1: least I figured out how to download all those screenplays
- 18:53Speaker 1: from the Writer's Guild. And I just sat one afternoon
- 18:59Speaker 1: and read all of his scripts and just was blown
- 19:02Speaker 1: away the talent that this guy possessed this not only
- 19:06Speaker 1: as a writer, but to bring it all to life.
- 19:08Speaker 4: Yeah, it make it work?
- 19:09Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because that's the whole that's the hard part.
- 19:12Speaker 1: I mean, you think the writing's difficult, but then you
- 19:14Speaker 1: got to bring it to life.
- 19:15Speaker 4: I'm an enormous Tony Scott Fan.
- 19:18Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
- 19:19Speaker 4: And so to have those two talking about true romance,
- 19:24Speaker 4: to have those two talents collide. If you haven't seen
- 19:30Speaker 4: it in a while, it's worth your time.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I've seen it.
- 19:34Speaker 4: When we're done with.
- 19:35Speaker 1: This several times. I've seen it several times. Oh good,
- 19:39Speaker 1: extraordinary performances all through it. Brad Pitt was genius, James
- 19:44Speaker 1: Vandelphini was genius. Gosh, Gary Oldman was Janius. I mean
- 19:50Speaker 1: it was just a fan. Christian Slater was great. They
- 19:52Speaker 1: were all great. I hate to leave anybody out. There
- 19:55Speaker 1: were so many great performances. And that Michael Michael Rappaport
- 19:59Speaker 1: was great. Uh yes, he's the one that really beats
- 20:06Speaker 1: the tar out of Patricia Quatt and then who gave
- 20:14Speaker 1: maybe the performance of the year.
- 20:16Speaker 3: That that performance she gave.
- 20:18Speaker 1: Was beautiful and heartfelt and wonderful.
- 20:22Speaker 4: And Dennis Hopper.
- 20:26Speaker 3: Walking before he kills him.
- 20:29Speaker 4: That scene is one of my favorite scenes, right.
- 20:31Speaker 1: And the moment he realizes that he's going to die,
- 20:36Speaker 1: he decides to take his time, have a cigarette and
- 20:38Speaker 1: tell the story and then deliver the final insult like
- 20:42Speaker 1: I know you're gonna kill me, but I'm still gonna
- 20:44Speaker 1: insult you to get.
- 20:49Speaker 3: It was brilliant.
- 20:50Speaker 4: No, it's my favorite Tarantino.
- 20:53Speaker 1: It's the best kind of screenwriting there is. I just
- 20:56Speaker 1: don't there's a lot of really good writers out there,
- 20:59Speaker 1: but Tarantino man. And you know, he lives in Israel
- 21:03Speaker 1: now and he's married and he has a couple of kids,
- 21:05Speaker 1: and apparently Tel Aviv and I haven't been, but I've
- 21:08Speaker 1: been told that Tel Aviv is like it's like West Hollywood.
- 21:13Speaker 1: It's it's like La It's it's very diverse, it's very gay,
- 21:17Speaker 1: it's very very open and artistic about thriving, thriving artistic community,
- 21:28Speaker 1: painting and filmmaking and dance, and it's wonderful. It's it's
- 21:34Speaker 1: like this movable face.
- 21:35Speaker 3: That moved, you know.
- 21:36Speaker 1: It's it was in New York and then it moved
- 21:38Speaker 1: to Berlin and now it's now it's in Tel Aviv. Yeah,
- 21:48Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little thing called rapid Fire. How
- 21:51Speaker 1: do you like your coffee.
- 21:54Speaker 4: Blacker than a thousand mid nights? I actually really like
- 21:57Speaker 4: your coffee.
- 21:58Speaker 1: That thank you, yeah, thank you, ye have you binged the.
- 22:03Speaker 4: Entire but it has to be I prefer it percolated, right, okay,
- 22:08Speaker 4: I'm a collector of percolators.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Interesting, have you binged the entire Gilmore Girls series?
- 22:15Speaker 4: Not season seven?
- 22:17Speaker 1: Got because you're a purist? Are you team Logan Team
- 22:23Speaker 1: Jess or Team Dean.
- 22:26Speaker 4: Team Roberts?
- 22:28Speaker 3: That a way?
- 22:29Speaker 4: Because because I'm the father, there you go as a
- 22:32Speaker 4: fan of the show on team Jess.
- 22:36Speaker 3: Gotcha?
- 22:38Speaker 1: What would you order at Luke's Diner, Hamburg, Harvard or Yale?
- 22:44Speaker 4: Yale?
- 22:45Speaker 3: Why?
- 22:47Speaker 4: Uh? I just I'd like the sound of it better.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Best memory of Gilmore Girls.
- 22:56Speaker 4: Of watching the show or being on.
- 22:58Speaker 1: It doesn't specify.
- 23:04Speaker 4: Of watching the show. It's her graduation speech versus yes,
- 23:15Speaker 4: I'm all in. You know the graduation you know you
- 23:19Speaker 4: remember the graduation speech. And then as a shooting experience
- 23:25Speaker 4: would be during the revival, being able to hit a
- 23:30Speaker 4: golf ball off the roof of one of the buildings
- 23:33Speaker 4: and starts.
- 23:35Speaker 1: Of cast member you texted, most recently chilly, chilly cool.
- 23:43Speaker 3: Gotcha?
- 23:44Speaker 1: Uh something in your life?
- 23:46Speaker 3: You are all in on.
- 23:50Speaker 4: Cooking, cooking, cooking.
- 23:53Speaker 1: Wonderful. Thank you so much for coming on. It was
- 23:58Speaker 1: a pleasure getting to know you. I didn't really to
- 24:01Speaker 1: meet you, really, I don't. We never really did any
- 24:04Speaker 1: scenes together, and I don't think we were on set
- 24:06Speaker 1: together very often. You mentioned a couple of times that
- 24:08Speaker 1: you saw me, But it's been a pleasure and we'd
- 24:12Speaker 1: love to have you back on and get a little
- 24:14Speaker 1: more into your Gilmore experience and other areas of your career.
- 24:18Speaker 1: So thanks so much for coming on, Nick Holmes.
- 24:20Speaker 3: Everybody, Scott.
- 24:22Speaker 4: It was my privilege and my pleasure to be here
- 24:26Speaker 4: and to community communicate with you and recount some of
- 24:33Speaker 4: those wonderful memories.
- 24:36Speaker 1: All the best, buddy, take care of Thank you, hey, everybody,
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