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The Late Debate | 8 July · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome the Late Debate. Well, it's great to have your
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  Speaker 1: company for another week.
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  Speaker 2: On the Late Debate, I'm James Macpherson with Liz Stauer
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  Speaker 2: and filling in for Caleb Bond is Joe Hilda brand Well.
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  Speaker 2: If Cringe wins elections, then queens Land Premier Stephen Miles
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  Speaker 2: is a shoe in for the October poll. We'll show
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  Speaker 2: you his latest horrendous social media effort a little later. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: when we look at the papers, young labor members in
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  Speaker 2: revolt over Anthony Albanese's treatment of Fatima payment and Australian
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  Speaker 2: military commanders warned that our bases are vulnerable to missile attacks.
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  Speaker 1: But don't worry. In ten years we'll have adequate defense systems,
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  Speaker 1: they say.
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  Speaker 2: But first, let's talk about elections, because there's been a
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  Speaker 2: couple in Europe. Both the French and the English went
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  Speaker 2: to the polls with some interesting results in both instances.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk first about the French election, where.
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  Speaker 2: Right wing National Rally We're expected to do very well
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  Speaker 2: after leading at the first round, but on the weekend
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  Speaker 2: it was the left's new Popular Front that won the
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  Speaker 2: most seats, despite the Conservatives winning more votes. Now we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about what all of that means in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: But first we've got to go to a few of
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  Speaker 1: our lefty friends in France.
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  Speaker 2: Here's one French lefty explaining just how happy they are
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  Speaker 2: to have won more seats. Who and of course here's
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  Speaker 2: his French colleague celebrating love and joy. That, of course
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  Speaker 2: is a number of immigrants who also voted in the polls,
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  Speaker 2: helping the left leaning parties to the most seats. But
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  Speaker 2: this is how they displayed their joy at winning. So Liz,
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  Speaker 2: I'll though you'll help us unpack the results in a moment.
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  Speaker 2: But first, what is it with lefties? When they lose,
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  Speaker 2: they riot, and when they win, they riot.
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  Speaker 3: That's just how they're celebrate. They're really happy.
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  Speaker 1: What's wrong with that?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the French elections were rigged, pure and simple
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  Speaker 4: when you look at the lead Lopez party had, and
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  Speaker 4: we already knew that they'd done it very well because
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  Speaker 4: last month in the EU elections, remember this map. The
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  Speaker 4: only department Lapens National Rally lost in the European Union
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  Speaker 4: elections just last month.
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  Speaker 3: The only one they lost was Paris the blue.
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  Speaker 4: There is every single seat that said we reject immigration
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  Speaker 4: and the islamification of our country.
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  Speaker 3: We want to take France back.
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  Speaker 4: That was, of course, what triggered the French president saying, oh,
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  Speaker 4: hang on a minute, let's just go to a snap
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  Speaker 4: election because obviously people aren't supporting me. I'm not getting
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  Speaker 4: the people's vote here. That's why we had this snap election.
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  Speaker 4: But remember France has their elections a week apart, two
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  Speaker 4: of them. If you get over fifty percent in a seat,
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  Speaker 4: it's game over, red rover and that seat is spoken for.
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  Speaker 4: In the seats that that doesn't happen, anyone who gets
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  Speaker 4: over twelve point five is still in the running for
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  Speaker 4: the next round. So what did mccron's party and their
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  Speaker 4: cronies do. They withdrew over two hundred of their own
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  Speaker 4: candidates because they didn't want to split the lefty vote
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  Speaker 4: or basically any vote that would go to anyone but
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  Speaker 4: Lapen's party that didn't want to split that vote. So
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  Speaker 4: in the week between those two elections, they withdrew over
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  Speaker 4: two hundred candidates, solidifying the vote.
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  Speaker 3: And that's how they managed to win. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 3: she still came.
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  Speaker 5: Pretty effective tactic, though.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't it That is that is Jobi Oki Peterson level
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  Speaker 4: Jerryman as just.
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  Speaker 6: Saying, we know that, we know this is not an
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  Speaker 6: election that a centrist party can win. So we're just
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  Speaker 6: going to pull out and let the hard right and
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  Speaker 6: the hard left slog it out and the hard left
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  Speaker 6: ragtag bunch that they are.
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  Speaker 3: And I do not like the in other ways.
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  Speaker 4: So and what the right is almost forty Frenchy's voted
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  Speaker 4: for the Penn and yet she came third. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: when you look at the distribution of votes and how
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  Speaker 4: they pulled this off, I just think, as the guy
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  Speaker 4: who should be Prime Minister, Jordan Bardello, said, this was
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  Speaker 4: an alliance of dishonor. That's what these guys did. They
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  Speaker 4: gerry Man did the vote. That's how they got the
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  Speaker 4: results that they did.
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  Speaker 3: But of course Lippenn, true to form, she is undeterred.
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  Speaker 6: MT and the.
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  Speaker 1: Mayor and continue a Monte victor.
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  Speaker 4: And while the left celebrated, there didn't seem to be
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  Speaker 4: a French flag in sight.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a frightening trend.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, there was a record number of immigrants who
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  Speaker 4: voted in these French elections as well, which would have
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  Speaker 4: also affected the vote very much. Lipenn's party being that
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  Speaker 4: stood very firmly against mass immigration and indeed the Islamization
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  Speaker 4: of France.
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  Speaker 3: That's what she was.
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  Speaker 4: Incredibly popular for and what most people know the party for.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's alarming because elections like this start to
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  Speaker 4: wake people up to the simple fact of they can't
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  Speaker 4: vote their way out of this. They can't vote their
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  Speaker 4: way out of this, and no one can look on
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  Speaker 4: in the coming years and say, oh, well, you got
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  Speaker 4: what you're voted for, because they actually didn't. And it's
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  Speaker 4: well said that those who make peaceful revolution impossible make
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  Speaker 4: violent revolution inevitable.
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  Speaker 3: Because the unrest.
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  Speaker 4: In France you laughed, Joe, but the past growing.
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  Speaker 3: For many years now.
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  Speaker 4: I like many people keep up to date online watching
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  Speaker 4: real stories on the streets of French. She's saying, our
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  Speaker 4: country has lost, France has been conquered. Those people aren't
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  Speaker 4: going to go quietly into the good night. And when
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  Speaker 4: they see an election that has clearly been jerry manned
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  Speaker 4: like this, you're you're stirring up a lot of.
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  Speaker 6: But I think there's a difference between rigging an election
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  Speaker 6: and actually just using what tactical what tactical weapons you
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  Speaker 6: have available, what political strategies you have to get the
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  Speaker 6: least worse result.
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  Speaker 1: That's not rigging it.
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  Speaker 5: That's not rigging the election. Ringing the election is doing
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  Speaker 5: something it was permissible. That's right. It's not a jerry manner.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry manner is appropriate is another?
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  Speaker 5: But that's right. Is it decidrable? Yes? Is it illegal
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  Speaker 5: or rig No?
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  Speaker 6: Now, I think to be honest, the Left have probably
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  Speaker 6: kicked a massive on goal by the way they've carried
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  Speaker 6: on and the riots that they've done. They probably no
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  Speaker 6: one will be able to form a government. It would
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  Speaker 6: seem no one will work with each other. Already, the
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  Speaker 6: new Popular Front is attacking Macron, who basically just got
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  Speaker 6: them in a position to it does on government. Well,
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  Speaker 6: who with no one's going to work with you because
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  Speaker 6: the Front is not a united group of people.
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  Speaker 2: You've got social you've got communists, all the.
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  Speaker 6: Worst people you can possibly imagine, right, there's all these
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  Speaker 6: are all the sort of people that you know. The
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  Speaker 6: Labor Party has spent the last few decades trying to
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  Speaker 6: expel from its party, and as we'll see later on,
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  Speaker 6: hasn't done. They just keep finding their way back in.
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  Speaker 6: So they're a terrible bunch of people. I think they
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  Speaker 6: will be seen to be the angel the left, you
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  Speaker 6: ask why they right even when they win, because the
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  Speaker 6: hard left is just hardwired to protest. They actually don't
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  Speaker 6: know what to do with power because they would have
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  Speaker 6: nothing to actually protest against. This is why the Greens
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  Speaker 6: can never ever hold government, and God willing, they will
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  Speaker 6: never happen. But of course none of what they would
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  Speaker 6: actually none of what they call for or what would
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  Speaker 6: ever be workable in government, and what they really want
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  Speaker 6: to do more than anything else is complain and say,
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  Speaker 6: oh this is you know. I mean, the minute the
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  Speaker 6: left is in control of the system, suddenly they can't
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  Speaker 6: complain about the system oppressing them, which denies their entire
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  Speaker 6: rays in detra that's a French term, by the way.
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  Speaker 6: So they're sort of hardwired to be anti they're hardwired hate,
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  Speaker 6: if you like, and that's why they're still going on
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  Speaker 6: their spree. And that just makes le Pen and the
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  Speaker 6: National Rally look better, look make them look like the
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  Speaker 6: more mature party, will make them look like adults in
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  Speaker 6: the room. And again, I would not like to see
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  Speaker 6: another violent revolution in France because it's had more than
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  Speaker 6: enough of those already over the years. But you know,
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  Speaker 6: if they carry on like that, then I don't think
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  Speaker 6: they will need a violent revolution. I think they can
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  Speaker 6: just say, well, we got the most votes and look
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  Speaker 6: at you, rabble, look at what you're doing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the.
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  Speaker 2: Timing of this is incredible, with the Olympic Games due
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  Speaker 2: to start in only a couple of weeks and French
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  Speaker 2: by some reports, completely ungovernable at the moment. As you said,
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  Speaker 2: no one won the right to govern themselves. Let's go
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  Speaker 2: to the UK where the election there was interesting as well.
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  Speaker 2: Labor of course one as expected, but with only thirty
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  Speaker 2: six percent of the vote and with only twenty percent
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  Speaker 2: of eligible voters supporting them. Voter turnout was at sixty percent,
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  Speaker 2: which is down massively on the last time the Brits
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  Speaker 2: went to poll.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in a second.
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  Speaker 2: On top of that, five pro Palestinian candidates one seats,
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  Speaker 2: including Jeremy Corbyn. That has implications perhaps for Australia later on.
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  Speaker 2: And then of course there was the interest around Nigel
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  Speaker 2: Farage and the impact his campaign would have on Conservatives.
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  Speaker 2: Now is Farrage won three point two million votes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: but got only four seats compared to say, the Liberal
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  Speaker 2: Democrats who got two point five million votes. A million
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  Speaker 2: less but ended up with seventy eight seats. So you
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  Speaker 2: reckon France is a little bit Jerry Mannered?
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  Speaker 1: What on earth is it?
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  Speaker 4: And then you've got sin Fine that got seven seats
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  Speaker 4: with just two hundred and ten thousand votes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what you're doing here?
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  Speaker 4: Check out this graphic that someone did up saying this
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  Speaker 4: is what the UK Parliament would look like if there
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  Speaker 4: was proportional voting. These guys would have way less seats
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  Speaker 4: than they ended up with, because when you look at
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  Speaker 4: number of votes that they got versus the number of
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  Speaker 4: seats that they get, it's simply hair raising.
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  Speaker 3: And you see the problem.
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  Speaker 4: With the first past the post system. That is where
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  Speaker 4: this system that we've come up with simply falls.
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  Speaker 1: I think in that.
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  Speaker 2: Diagram, the light blue is the Reform Party. If they
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  Speaker 2: got as many seats as votes would give them proportional.
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  Speaker 4: The aqua there is what Nigel Farage would now be
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  Speaker 4: sitting on if the vote count was proportional to the
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  Speaker 4: amount of seats that they get. But it's absolutely hair
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  Speaker 4: raising how many votes you get versus how many seats
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  Speaker 4: you get.
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  Speaker 3: I know that's the system that they've.
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  Speaker 4: So but it again stands to reason there are a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people in the UK now feeling like, well,
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  Speaker 4: our votes don't count because we didn't have enough in
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  Speaker 4: our small plot. And so despite the fact that Reform
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  Speaker 4: UK had millions more votes, plenty of other parties got
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  Speaker 4: heaps more seats.
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  Speaker 3: Thank god they got it again.
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  Speaker 5: That is how it works.
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  Speaker 6: If you want proportional representation, abolish the House of Lords
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  Speaker 6: and replace it with a Senate like we have, and
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  Speaker 6: you will, and that's how you get the representation. That's why,
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  Speaker 6: until sadly in recent years, that's why the Greens never
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  Speaker 6: had a Lower House seat despite getting a ten or
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  Speaker 6: fifteen percent of the vote for years and years and years,
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  Speaker 6: until sadly that happened.
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  Speaker 5: God help us well.
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  Speaker 6: But again this is the whole thing, like you have
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  Speaker 6: to if you are running in the Lower House and
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  Speaker 6: you are running a campaign to try to and I
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  Speaker 6: think Reform actually did quite well for a brand new
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  Speaker 6: body for two weeks to get the sheer numbers that
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  Speaker 6: did and to pick up seats at all is pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: The Liberal Democrats are an.
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  Speaker 6: Incredibly old, well established party, or the Liberals anyway, well
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  Speaker 6: established party in the UK, and so they concentrate their
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  Speaker 6: campaigns in electorates that or favor them. You've got heaps
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  Speaker 6: of incumbent candidates. And again you ask why shin Fain had,
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  Speaker 6: you know, got seats and Reform didn't get as many
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  Speaker 6: or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 5: She finds an Irish Nationalist party.
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  Speaker 6: They ran in Ireland, they ran in Northern Ireland, which
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  Speaker 6: is still represented. So that's why. That's just how it works.
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  Speaker 6: That's just why you get there. You get local candidates
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  Speaker 6: running local campaigns, often on local issues or issues that
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  Speaker 6: are related to that region in the case of Ireland,
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  Speaker 6: and that's just how it works.
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  Speaker 4: If it's not how Tasmania gets as many senators as
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  Speaker 4: every other study's.
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  Speaker 3: Right, excuse me?
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  Speaker 6: What you can stable?
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  Speaker 5: How is that? That's right?
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  Speaker 6: You can say, well, how is that fair or whatever,
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  Speaker 6: but it doesn't mean again, it doesn't mean that it's
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  Speaker 6: rigged or that is just the system that we have
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  Speaker 6: if you want to change it and propose a different system.
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  Speaker 6: It's like the candidate's winning about wins you about the
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  Speaker 6: electoral college system in the UK when you know, because
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  Speaker 6: this time they didn't win the presidency, Hillary Clinton, I'm
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  Speaker 6: looking at you, so you know that is the system.
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  Speaker 6: That is how it works. If you if you think
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  Speaker 6: there should be proportional representation in the UK again, zack
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  Speaker 6: the House of Lords replace them.
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  Speaker 4: With an actual Well, that's never going to happen, but
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  Speaker 4: it certainly does highlights you. When you've got Lib Dems
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  Speaker 4: sitting on seventy seven seats, when they got less votes
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  Speaker 4: than Reform you Gay, which is sitting on five.
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  Speaker 6: That's right, but they got them where they got those votes,
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  Speaker 6: where it counted and where it mattered.
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  Speaker 2: And so you've got the new Prime Minister of the UK, Kiirstarmer, who,
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  Speaker 2: as I said, got a very small proportion of votes really,
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  Speaker 2: but an overwhelming majority.
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  Speaker 1: He said in an.
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  Speaker 2: Interview that if he had to choose between being Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister or hanging with the folk in DeVos, well here
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  Speaker 2: he is.
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  Speaker 3: Have a listen, let us just ask you quickly.
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  Speaker 7: You have to choose now between DeVos or Westminster Davos.
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  Speaker 7: Why because Westminster is too constrained and you know it's
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  Speaker 7: closed and we're not having many Once you get out
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  Speaker 7: of Westminster, whether it's Tavis or anywhere else, you actually
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  Speaker 7: engage with people that you can see working with in
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  Speaker 7: the future of Westminster as a tribal shouting please.
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  Speaker 2: So Liz, You've got the new Prime Minister of England
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  Speaker 2: on records saying, if I had to choose between hanging
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  Speaker 2: with my British colleagues.
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  Speaker 1: Or being part of the World Economic Forum.
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  Speaker 2: And Davos, I'd rather be part of the World Economic Film.
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  Speaker 4: This guy is a Schwab loyalist. He's a World Economic
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  Speaker 4: for it, he's a globalist. He does nothing to hide that.
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  Speaker 4: They're very proud of it. He goes to Davos, he
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  Speaker 4: contributes on their panels.
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  Speaker 3: But here we have him now, a sitting PM who's
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  Speaker 3: on record saying I'd rather deal.
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  Speaker 4: With those guys because in Parliament people just agree.
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  Speaker 3: With me and there's shouting matches. In Davos, we're all.
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  Speaker 4: On the same page, marching out a gender twenty thirty.
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  Speaker 3: It's all marvelous.
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  Speaker 1: To be fair, there's not many in the British parments.
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  Speaker 1: I dist agree with him now because.
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  Speaker 4: So not at all.
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  Speaker 3: Majority. I think it's important that people know who he
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  Speaker 3: is and what he stands for.
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  Speaker 6: And that's saying the exact same thing that Donald Trump
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  Speaker 6: is saying when he says drain the swap.
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  Speaker 5: You can't trust Washington.
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  Speaker 6: He's saying that he's saying that Sminster is the same
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  Speaker 6: as full of tribal clicks, people who vote according to
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  Speaker 6: factional loyalties.
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  Speaker 5: Part I know, it's just part of what he's saying.
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  Speaker 6: He's saying Davas, and he's explicitly says Davos or anywhere
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  Speaker 6: else he said, being able to deal with big ideas,
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  Speaker 6: being able to do things without being constrained by those
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  Speaker 6: he is obviously been tough.
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  Speaker 4: He was asked Parliament Westminster Davas and.
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  Speaker 5: He goes on to say, and people would have heard.
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  Speaker 3: It for themselves.
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  Speaker 6: That's right, because he's saying that he's complaining about politics
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  Speaker 6: being so constrained.
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  Speaker 3: That's clearly what's Davos. They're all on a unity ticket with.
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  Speaker 6: All the there's more potential for actual real there's.
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  Speaker 5: More potential for actual real change.
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  Speaker 6: And I'll tell you what, Keir Starma is the best
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  Speaker 6: thing to have into the British Labor Party, the UK
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  Speaker 6: Labor Party since Tony Blair. If you if you don't,
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  Speaker 6: if you think he's left wing, you should have seen.
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  Speaker 5: The last guy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh please, Yes.
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  Speaker 6: He've got elected by the way, on a pro Palactindian ticket.
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  Speaker 6: Another party rat believe it or not. If you want
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  Speaker 6: to see what could be heading our way in Australia.
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  Speaker 6: Jeremy Corbyn, the man who supposedly Labor to his bootstraps,
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  Speaker 6: you know, the grand old comrade Corbyn turned out to
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  Speaker 6: be a dirty little Labor rat, lost the leadership and
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  Speaker 6: betrayed his party, ran against it as an independent in
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  Speaker 6: his seat on a pro Palestine ticket. Of course, he's
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  Speaker 6: not just pro Palestine. His pro any rubbishy socialist tinpot dictatorship,
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: as fewed in South America is pretty fond of. And
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  Speaker 6: he was one of five who got up, and that
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  Speaker 6: is who would have been the leader of the Labor
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  Speaker 6: Party had good old kiss.
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  Speaker 5: Darma got up still leader he got he.
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  Speaker 6: Nearly got up. Jeremy Corbyn nearly got up. It was
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  Speaker 6: one of the biggest scared.
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  Speaker 2: Ki Is Starma got up because the Conservatives were so
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  Speaker 2: inept and they really they didn't fail. They betrayed the
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  Speaker 2: British public. Kirs Starma is comparatively boring and bland pair
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  Speaker 2: of hands. Nigel Faraj is the only real leader I
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: have scene these days, and just.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Thank god that he made it in because the next
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: few years are going to be very interesting with that
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: man in the House of Lord's taking them on to
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: the Northern.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Territory now with the police Commissioner.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Has once again called for a curfew. Here's him explaining why.
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: But unfortunately, in the last seventy two hours, we've seen
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: some significant harm and civil disturbances. On Friday afternoon, we
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: saw a police officer who was conducting his duties run
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: over by a vehicle, suffering a fracture to his leg
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: and his arm. He's in hospital still and he'll take
• 18:26
  Speaker 8: some time to recover. On Saturday evening, we saw a
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: large scale disturbance involving up to eighty people on the
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: council lawns and our springs.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: But as Senator just Enterprise said today, and this was
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: a really good point, she said, look, it's one thing
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: to put a curfew in place, but unless you are
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: addressing the underlying issues of why that curfew is necessary,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: what are you going to do? Just live with a
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: permanent curfew or understandably it worked last time they saw
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: things settle down after curfew was put on place, they
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: lifted it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: It's back in place.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Now, but the issue underlying isn't being addressed, and therefore
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: who's to say we're not just going to be in
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: this endless cycle of curfew lifted.
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: That's definitely what it would be. This is why the
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: left lost the voice. And it was just an absolute
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: tragedy to behold because for years and years and years,
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: the trendy left, most of whom have not even visited
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: any of these communities, have refused to acknowledge the extremity
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: and the causes of Indigenous disadvantage, of the violence, of
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: the alcohol abuse and other substance abuse, things like the
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: stratospherically high rates of domestic violence and Indigenous communities compared
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: to non Indigenous communities. And I've been just enterprise and
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: I were on a unity ticket trying to raise awareness
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: of this and talk about this stuff.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: And you would have social.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: Media warriors, social justice warriors on social media just swearing
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: till they're blue in the face, just saying, oh no, no,
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: it's no worse in Aboriginal communities than it is anywhere else.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: And there was racist to even suggest such a thing.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: I had one person. I'll never forget it. It's like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: you know, there were all these stats on you know
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: how Indigenous women in some areas we know thirty percent,
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: thirty times more likely to be hospitalized because of domestic
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: violence than non indigenous in remote regional areas. And so
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: all these statistics, they're all out there, all these official
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: Australian Institute of Health and Welfare, you know, Institute Criminology,
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: like all these official stats out there that just no
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: one talks about.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: And I had people say, oh, but how do we
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: know that.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: It's Indigenous men committing indigenous violent domestic violets against these
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: Indigenous women. Maybe it's white guys coming into these communities
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: committing all this violence against the women and then just
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: disappearing into the night peraths.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: This is how cooked people were.
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: And then you have a proposal like the Voice, which
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: is actually meant to be a circuit breaker, and say, right,
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: we need to we need you know, we need to
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: listen to people on the ground on how to fix
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: these problems. For most of Australia, and indeed for most
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: of the trendy left who were dominating the debate, they
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: weren't even being told that these problems existed, let alone
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: the extent of them. So you had, you know, you
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: suddenly had the Voice, which was a solution to a
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: problem that the left. The same people now suddenly championing
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: the voice suddenly wouldn't even allow to acknowledge existed, were
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: denying it actually existed. And so then, of course, in
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: their cooked little minds, the voice suddenly becomes instead of
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: being a practical instrument to address these disadvantage and address
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: these problems, it then becomes about historical restitution or setting
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: things right past historical mistakes. And of course at that
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: moment you've completely lost the argument, because no one who
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: is voting now is alive back then, and the vast
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: majority of migrant voters, as we saw from the breakdown
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: of who voted against it, said what the hell are
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: you telling My family came here after the Second World War.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: I had nothing to do with seven natiy So they
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: have they have literally got blood on their hands.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Hosted Kredlin receiving and spoke to just into let's have
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: a listened to some of what she said about the
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: problems in the town of Ella Springs and how curfew
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: is not sufficient to address it.
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: The curfew is a temporary measure and one that we
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: can't keep just going back to. We need to give
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: to the root of the problem instead of treating it downstream.
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: We need to start preventing kids from committing crimes in
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: the first place.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: So it's the point that you made is that you're
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: just going to have rolling curfews unless you deal with issues.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: You mentioned the Voice, Joe, that this headline was interesting today.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Treaty and Truth Telling Body cuts staff eight months after
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Voice failure. This is the National Indigenous Australians Agency which
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: is charged with implementing the Macaraate Commission. The Albanezy government
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: allocated about seven and a half million dollars towards it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: In their twenty twenty two budget.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Well, they've cut their staff from three full time staff
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: is to half a full time equivalent. Probably the wrong
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: time to be setting up treaty and truth telling commissions
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: when you've got such violence in Ella Springs and all
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: of these issues continue to bubble along. No one's interested
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: in these little superficial virtue signaling operations.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: People want to see real action and people help.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And the fact that the government doesn't have the
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: Voice to work with, which arguably I don't believe it
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: would have achieved anything that you said it was supposed to, Joe,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: that doesn't give them an excuse to not do the
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: things that they said They were going to do, which
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: was improved the quality of life for Indigenous Australians in
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: this nation. That it boggles my mind that the taxpayer
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: spends around forty billion dollars a year on Indigenous communities
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: and we are not seeing where are the KPIs. Where
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: does this government get off turning around to us being like, well,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: if you just change your constitution, that'll make a big difference.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: We all knew that it wasn't going to be. None
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: of them rolled out KPIs for it. Otherwise the vote
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: would have been a lot higher if they were like,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: this is how the voice is going to equal real
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: world boots on the ground differences in these communities. No
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: one could explain that, so no one believed it. It
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: just seems like you want to change our constitution for
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: absolutely weirdly no reason. And also there is just no
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: excuse for the government not to have done more, not
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: to have done better when you look at the amount
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: of people and the already the countless organizations.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: To say that, oh, the voice is meaning that will listen.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: To people on the ground, you mean you haven't been
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: doing that for which is why these systemic issues are continuing.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: What are you doing with forty.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Billion dollars a year on about three percent of the population.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Why can't you fix this. You're the government, you have
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: all the.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: Resources in the well you have to.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: You can't fix a problem until you acknowledge that it exists,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: and you.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Can't everyone's acknowledging it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: Well, not everyone is. That that is the problem. That
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: is the problem.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: Not everyone is. And so again I completely agree. Firstly,
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: the government has done significant stuff since the Voice. They're okay,
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: I think it's a billion dollars to education and billion
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: dollars to housing in the NT for Indigenous people. But again,
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: that will that's great, and it's fantastic, and so they should.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: But it will count for nothing unless you have that
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: acknowledgment of the dysfunction of the violence. And again, we
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: need to see the young Indigenous leaders of the future
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: who would have been on the Voice or thought it
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: was a good idea or wanted to.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Be there, coming up and owning this and.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Saying, right, this is a disgrace, what's happening in our communities.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: This is what we've got to do to fix it.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: We've got to take responsibility. We've got to start talking
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: to the men in our communities and make sure this
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: aren't acceptible the grog band. Again, there were community leaders
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: at the time who were saying, when the grog bands
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: were going to be rolled back, for the love of God,
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: don't do this. And again it's actually one of the
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: exams I use as to why a voice could have
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: been more powerful and could have prevented that sort of
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: stuff from happening, because if the voice had said it
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: and the government had ignored it, we wouldn't have got
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: the result that we did get, which was local people
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: in the community, local voices if you like, writing letters
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: saying don't do this. And it got buried, I know,
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: but it wasn't transparent. No one knew about it, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: so it just got buried in the bottom of a
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: desk draw somewhere and the government just went ahead with
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: this policy. So again it didn't have that transparency, it
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: didn't have that sort of high profile visibility.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: But we need that.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: You know, these are difficult problems, they're complex problems, but
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: they're also pretty clear problems as well, and you can't
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: just say, oh, well, it's not you know, it's not
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: our fault that you know, men are bashing our women
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: at thirty times the rate of non indigenous communities because
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: it's all kind of intersectional trauma and it's all because
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: of colonialism or racing or whatever.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: That's bollocks.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: We can deal with that later on, but firstly, you
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: cannot have communities that resemble more resemble war zones than
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: they do that non indigenous.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: So why is this going on decade in decade out
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: when the government has all the resources, they have all
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: the data, they're not ignorant as to the stats that well.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: Again, as I said, that's right, and you know, Marca
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: Langton is one of the people who came forward and
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: presented these stats. As was just enterprise, as was its fancasment.
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: They came forward, it was on the front page of Australia, ignored,
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: and it just you know, and again, until the left
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: makes this and the people who supposedly champion indigenous issues
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: make this the front and center. They first, first we
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: stopped the women being bashed. First, we stop the kids
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: being bashed and abused. Until that becomes the number one priority,
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: then of course everything else is gone.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I've got to care more about Indigenous people than they
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: do about their ideological talking points.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: So that happened.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I think that is probably see some change.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the latest News poll here in Australia,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: which shows that things are tightening up as we head
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: towards a federal election.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: The two party preferred vote.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Now has Labor leading fifty one to forty nine as
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Dutton starts to make ground on the government, particularly in
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: regards to his nuclear policy, and the coalition enjoys majority
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: support in Queensland and in New South Wales as well
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: as among males.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: According to the latest News poll, current trends.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Indicate we'll end up with a hung parliament if it
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: keeps going the way it's going. Liz Dutton is clearly
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: making ground on Anthony Albanezi. There's a long way to go.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Polls up polls, but they do indicate trends. This would
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: be pretty encouraging to a man who, not that long ago,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: was considered unelectable by most of the left wing media.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Indeed, and this pole encapsulates the last three months, so
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: that is indicative, I guess of a trend. I just
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: find it so hard to get interested in polls when
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: we're at least ten months out to an election. Poles
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: are fickle. It could be different next week. And I'm
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: sure Labor is watching these and thinking of all the
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: rabbits that they can pull out of a hat. Before
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: say April next year, They've still got a massive lead
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: into an election.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: So Joe the other I hope, I hope it's ten
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: months until the next election.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: The other interesting out of the poll is the Labor
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: of bleeding votes to the Greens when it comes to
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: eighteen to thirty four year olds, and she's always going
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: This poll was taken before Fatima payment.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: That's taken before and after.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: So what happens with these news polls with the state
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: by state breakdown is they aggregate all the data from
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: all the news polls taken over that period. I think
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: it was between April and June from memory, and so
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: they have a big enough mass of data to be
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: able to do state by state breakdowns.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: You can see some of it there.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: For a normal news poll, the numbers that they get
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: from each state isn't enough to be statistically significant, so
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: you can have a you know, so you have to
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: get way over a thousand votes nationally for that to
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: be considered statistically significant, and even then there's a three
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: percent margin of error.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: So this is a culmination I think.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Between four and five thousand votes, which means you can
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: actually drill down the payoff for that is that it's
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: not one moment in time, so you can't explay right,
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: this is as a result of the increase in inflation,
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: or this is a result of Fatima payment, and indeed
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: it most of the period is before the Fatima payment
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: stuff came off. But young people are always going to
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: be rebellious. Young people are always, i mean, it's a cliche,
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: are going to lean to the left.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: I was a dumb student socialist.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: I'm now on the opposite side of the kind of
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: left spectrum if you like. And so Labor has no
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: value in chasing those votes because they will come. They
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: will put the liberals last every time. Anyone who's to
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: the left of the Labor Party is not going to
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: put the libers ahead of them, So all those votes
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: come back, thank you, preferential voting.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: Where they are in trouble is.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: With middle aged people, so you're sort of thirty nine
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: to fifty four types. That is where they've gone backwards,
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: and that is smack bang middle Australia, middle aged, middle class,
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: middle income Australia. That is a problem for them. They
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: need to get those back. And also, you know, talking
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: about the timing of the election, and our very good
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: former colleague PBO had a piece that raised a few
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: eyebrows over the weekend that albou was thinking of calling
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: an election on.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: August the thirty first.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: The fact that and I think it was fifty four
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: to forty six, the coalition is up in Queensland.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: If that is.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Played there, I think you go that early.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: No, I don't, I don't, I don't determine. So the
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: thinking behind the early poldation there right, absolutely absolutely, that
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: is the central to it. So the thinking behind the
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: August thirty first Polder, as PVO put it, is that
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: the RBA is more likely to raise rates in September
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: than it is in August if there's an election campaign on.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: The RBA would be shy in seeming.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: To raise rates in such a politically charged period because
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: it would undermine its a political impartiality, and therefore it
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: would just wait and see, let the campaign run its course,
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: and then late in September. I think that is very simplistic.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: There's also an argument that it would sort of tactically
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: you know, flat foot or wrongfoot the Muslim vote movements,
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: and they wouldn't have a chance to get their act
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: together and come after it again. Tactically smart strategically, I
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: think pretty stupid if you go to the polls in Queensland,
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: even as a federal Labor candidate and they haven't got
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: out of their system their hatred for Stephen Miles and
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: state Labor. There you know again, fifty four to forty six,
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: the coalition is up in Queensland. What is that going
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: to do to Labor Party seats if it runs there?
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: Before voters have voted in the Queensland state election and
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: got all those brick bats out of their system. So again,
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: it's that's why I think the early election thing would
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: would be still a kamikaze move.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I'd love to see it happen, though, wouldn't we All
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: to the US now, where four more senior House Democrats
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: are calling on Joe Biden buddy, pack up, leave, do
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: not run for re election. Biden doesn't seem to be
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: listening to any of these people, even though the polls
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: unquestionably back them up. He has no chance of winning
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: against Donald Trump, who will undoubtedly be the Republican nominee.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Here he was busy over the weekend proving to everyone
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Biden he's still up for the job.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Well, I guess what they're trying to push me out
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: on the race.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Well, let me say as clear as I can, I'm
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: staying in a race.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: I'll bet Donald Trump.
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: I will beat him again in twenty twenty.
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: You're doing so well a little bit there, Oh, beat
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: him again in twenty twenty.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Also, I'm not sure the president even knows what coloring
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: is these days.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Here he is again.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: I am proud to be, as I said, the first
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: vice president, first black woman, with the black president.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: You're not black, Joe.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, I remember you telling people back in twenty twenty,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: if you don't vote Democrat, you ain't black. Meanwhile, the
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: latest Ipsauce poll shows that Barack Obama's wife, Michelle Obama,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: is the only Democratic nominee out of their pool of
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I don't even know whether to call them hopefools who
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: could beat Donald Trump if it came to that. Of course,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: this is unfortunate because as recently as last week she
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: released a statement saying I am not running.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: It's not going to happen.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: And what I can't believe is the Dems still won't
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: give a side glance too. RFK Junior Edward Snooded tweeted
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: recently which made me laugh because I've been thinking the
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: same for a long time. Darkly, I'm using to watch
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: panic Dems suddenly searching under the couch cushions for a
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: candidate when Kennedy is literally.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Standing right there.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: I love Joe, but he's been doing very well as
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: an independent. I'm sure to be welcomed back and Democratic nominee.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: Thinking barbecued dog?
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: No, did you see the video he made like chopping
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: out because he has three dogs and he was chopping
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: up chicken and frying it in the pan, being like
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: this was supposed to be my dinner. But these guys
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: have read the news. They're so upset by the fake
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: news that I ate a dog, and he's like sitting
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: on the floor and spoon feeding them and reading them.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Well, the pole that shows Michelle Obama would my Trump.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: That same pole shows that Biden and Trump neck and neck.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: That cannot be.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: Know, if you laid all the poles in America and
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: to end, they still wouldn't reach any vision.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Mama's former strategist has said that if Biden runs. He
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: will lose in an absolute landslide.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: There's no question about it.
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: And this is what was really fun about, like Joe
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: Biden saying they're trying to push me out of the election,
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: and it's like all these sinister forces. Mate, it's your
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: own team, it's your guys who.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: Now that's right, and he's going to win again in
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: His team leaked notes today that showed This was in
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: the UK Telegraph that showed that when he goes to
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: an event, they're giving him not just notes of who
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: to talk to, et cetera, et cetera, but they're actually
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: maps about where to walk on stage, where the podium
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: would be, where to walk off. He's getting all sorts
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: of instruction. This is all being leaked, so I don't
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: reckon he'll make it to no Vember.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: It's like when Homer said the Simpson's become the Thompsons,
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: and Homer Simpson is being taught his lines. I guess
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: when I say hello mister Thompson and stamp your foot,
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: you say hello, hello, mister Thompson, and Homer goes.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: I think he's talking to you.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: That is now Joe Biden, good night, We're going to
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: go to a break.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we look at what's making news
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: in tomorrow's papers. That's coming up, Bignesstorm, welcome back. Well,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: let's have a look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers. Joe,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: you can kick us off with the Daily Telegraph.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: I certainly can, James. I don't know if you've heard
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: of this little news sheet. It's a real ripper. Greatest
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: newspaper in the country, great the world, great writers. There's
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: this one bloke, what's his name? I can't be j
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: something very handsome, and you would think, normally, I believe
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: that sometimes that you know, when God's handing out qualities,
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: it's a zero sum game, so you can't be like,
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: if you're too good looking, then you're probably a bit stupid.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: But this guy, for some reason, managed to combine incredible
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: intelligence with incredible intellect. I know, all in the same package.
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: His name will come to me anyway. Meanwhile, on the front.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Doesn't even write for the Daily Telegraph has seen Joe.
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: Meanwhile, someone called Claire Armstrong, who's also very very smart
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: and good looking, has written on the front page of
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: the DLHI Australia can clear legal hurdles and fire up
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: nuclear reactor by twenty thirty five. Path clear for nuclear
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: get it so both got clear a legal A top
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: nuclear legal expert says australiaking clear the legal barriers to
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: get a nuclear reactor up and running by twenty thirty five,
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: as existing agreements and safety regulations mean the country is
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: not starting from scratch. So the regulatory framework is there.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: Whether we have the technical expertise and all that stuff,
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Know any well that we can even port.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: But I love that a top nuclear legal expert is
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: basically quoting every Sky News host for the last however
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: many months.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: I'm like, great to have more how an expert.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: But we do know this already.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: It's your mates on Team Red who simply refused to
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: acknowledge it in any way, shape or form, despite the
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: fact that their new their green dream is falling over
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: in front of their eyes. They know that nuclear would
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: be useful in the mix.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: It's going to be a mess.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: It's just again to me, it's just money. I've got
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: no problem with nuclear whatsoever. It's just a matter of
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: the economic stack up and if it's cheaper than renewables.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: And as far as the regulatory framework.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: People talk about nuclear as if Lucas Heights does not exist.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: True, so that is just a research reactor, not a
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: power react and so if it went into melt, not
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: that a will, not that at will, that's fine, but
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: basically nuclear if nuclear, if Lucas Heights was completely blown up,
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: it'd be the equivalent of everyone in the local area
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: getting an X ray.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: So it's a tiny amount.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: If you no three eyed fishes continua, they're all very safe.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Now anyway, let's got.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: A good news story on the front page of tomorrow's Career.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Male team takes control of runaway bus. This is a
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: student from Aquinas College in Ashmore. The teenage girl has
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: heroically saved her schoolmates from harm after she took the
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: wheel of their bus when the driver suffered a heart attack.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Now the driver was in charge of twenty five students.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: He had a heart attack when unconscious. This fifteen year
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: old girl jumped up, removed the driver's foot from the acceller.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Later took his hands off the steering wheel and she
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: managed to steer the bus into a traffic light to
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: slow it down before it eventually stopped, saving everybody on
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: board from injury.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Good kid. Give that kid her US license immediately.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: A very well fortun's still got a one star review
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: because she didn't stop to pick up passengers for the
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: rest of the road.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: To the front page of The Australian.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Now, the splash reads military explodes to missile threats. Two
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: of the nation's most respected military commanders say Australian personnel
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: and key bases will be vulnerable to missile attack for
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: at least another decade unless the government finds the money
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: for air defense systems or the US steps in to
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: protect them. Fairly, we could just pick up the phone
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: to Israel and be like that whole lin dome thing
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: you got going, we want to get pieces out over here.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: But no, you've trashed our relationship with them, so that's
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: not going to happen anytime soon, is it.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, we just got the I think we need
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: a slightly bigger dome.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Nah nah, well even a mini one. It's just the basis.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: It's just the basis.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: We've got America.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: It's America's can save this.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: That's a hard so I actually think it would be
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: a mini iron dome.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: It's the bases that they're talking about that they're trying
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: to protect, and now you've made me lose my train
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: You quite right, it's the Americans American to rescue, which
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: is why we just like all of Europe as well.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: But we have got American look.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Like we're trying.
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: That's the thing you have to look like you try,
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: and Americans. The most important thing the Americans want is
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: not military hardware or you know, personnel numbers. What they
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: want is like moral support. What they want is for
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: other nations to join them so it looks like they're
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: doing the right thing and not just acting alone, which
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: is why they had the coalition of the willing and
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: why we probably should have sent a boat to Yemen
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: to help them out, but we.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: Didn't because we didn't have one.
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: But I'm sure we would have another yarn in the
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: OZ that I absolutely love because it tells you everything.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: You need to know.
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: Young labor tells PM we stand with payment. Young labor
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: branches are revolting. Yes, they certainly are. Oh no, sorry,
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: the sentence goes on. Young labor branches are revolting against
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: the treatment of West Australian Senator Fatima Payman by the
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: Albanese government, as some labor MPs and officials back an
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: overhaul to the more than one hundred and twenty year
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: old party rule.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: That's because the party is more than one.
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: Hundred and twenty years old. It's basically a founding cornerstone anyway,
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: that inhibits parliamentarians from crossing the floor. If Young Labor
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: and again, to be honest, it's Young Labor branches, so
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: this is just the left faction of Young Labor. So
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: Young Labour's always a bit to the left of normal Labor,
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: and then Young Labor's left is just. But if Young
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: Labor left, which Anthony Albaneze obviously originally came from a rope,
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: if Young Labor is going after Albo at his weakest moment,
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: a Labor Prime Minister from the left and backing the
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: person who's betrayed him instead of the l left PM, no,
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: it kids.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: Might not be in the right party. You might just
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: want to just go across the road to the Greens.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: I'm sure they'd love to have you. We'll welcome you
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: back when you're about forty years old.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Well, according to the article, not only are they calling
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: for an overhaul of the rule that meant freedom of
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: payment is now out of the party, but they're hosting
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: her as a guest speaker at an event.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: How was she still in the game?
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Last week we were talking about the fact that she
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: still has her Afghany citizen citizenship.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Will she try you.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Can't have a dual citizenship and sit in.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Our federal I'm one with freedom of payment on that one,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: because apparently she tried to get rid of it, but
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: there's no ability for the embassy if you can't actually
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: in Afghanistan, So she's kind of stuck.
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: So that's right, And there are other examples of that
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: where people just literally couldn't.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: They're desperately like, unless you can.
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: Get the other country to cancel your passport, it's like
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: the Tarbo's going, oh no, she's still one of ours.
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: No, we're not giving it back. But yeah.
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: But the answer, the real answer to your question, Lise,
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: is because it's fatima payment, the rules don't apply to her.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: No rules for clearly magical.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: Anyway, over to the Voice of Tasmania the Mercury, and
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: I was intrigued by this little story in the top
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: left hand corner here. Commission calling for budget rise. The
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: Integrity Commission says it needs a bigger budget in order
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: to fulfill a request it investigate all sexual abuse allegations
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: against Tasmania police officers.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: I'm sure you picked the right headline there, guys.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: We're going to need a bigger budget.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: You've got Tasmanian police officers so rampantly allegedly sexually abusing
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: people that they need a bigger budget just to investigate it.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: And the headline they've put on the article is commission
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: calling for budget rise.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: Could you have at least got.
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: Police or sex in the head No, I love you guys.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: They want to bury that part.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: So this is literally to independently investigate all grooming and
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: sections allegations made against police officers.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: How many are there?
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: You're like, Okay, we don't have the budget for this.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: We're going to need a whole more money if you
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: want us to investigate every single one of the.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: This is not a fiscal story.
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: I just like this is sexual This is not not a.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: Story about accounting. I love the.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: More money to protect people from police. We're going to
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: go to a break when we come back. Can Queens
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: and Premier Steven Miles be any more cringe? The answer,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: of course is yes, We'll show you in a moment.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Welcome back.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Well, we've talked a lot about elections tonight, Lizen, there's
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: one you in Queensland.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: Shortly, the Miles government is facing death by a thousand
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: cards into every single poll that heap's coming out. Their
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: demise looks set for later this year when Queenslanders will
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: go to the polls. So what does the premier decide
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: to do to maybe win back a few votes. He
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: decides to insert himself in a still frame of the
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: cast from The Fast and the Furious to announce to
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: Queenslanders he's giving them twenty percent off their car.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Rego's okay, We've got to play that for you again.
• 46:45
  Speaker 10: He's so Hippi, he's so cool. Come on, guys, you
• 46:49
  Speaker 10: one him for a premier. Queensland is burning, But who
• 46:52
  Speaker 10: else can make reels like that? Joe, your face.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Says it all.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: I just don't understand.
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: I just I'm not sure the Fast and Furious guys
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: actually pay their rego.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure they just you know, I just why,
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: what is.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Is it going to help me win the election?
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: Joe? People, it's going to help.
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: We're gonna help Albo lose the election because one of
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: the really massive factors of inflation going up is incredibly
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: inflationary state budgets, especially Queensland. So all this just handing
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: out money handover fist is actually playing a massive role
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: and a lot of economists have said this is playing
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: a massive role in Well, we just saw that inflation
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: number with a.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Four, producing social media stuff like that. He'll be fine
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: at the election, no question. Hey, before we go, you've
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: got to check out America's National Education and Your Conference
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: held at the weekend, and they talked about important things,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: you know, with due seriousness, such as social justice, the
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: need for an education system built on equity. Listen to
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: the associations national president, Becky Pringle, talking as exactly as
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: you'd expect the president of the Education Association to speak.
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: Anya, delegates, we can do this work.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: We must do this work. We get to do this work.
• 48:18
  Speaker 9: We will do this work.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Because our students are depending on us to.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Win all the things.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Any we have to win.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: All the things, all.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: The things, all the things. Our colleagues are depending on us.
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: To win all the things.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Liz, I've been to a Pentecostal church like that, but
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: never to an education conference like that.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: What the heck?
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: What are all the things? By the way, can you
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: not name them?
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't you just be like this for all their education equality?
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Like she didn't even reel off all the DEI usual hotware.
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: I just love the fact that no one even realized
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: what she was on about, and then the people behind her,
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: oh yeah, like you couldn't. She's whacking the thing and
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: everyone said that obviously not at all.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: That for the things.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: That's it from us stick around all the things from
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Auster moment is the redependehy program that's in just a
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: moment