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This Isn’t Old Man Music: Sister Sledge · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all inlets you This Isn't Old Man Music
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  Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson everything You've ever wanted to know about
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  Speaker 1: the music of Gilmore Girls. Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, imall
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  Speaker 1: and Podcasts One of Love Productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart podcast
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  Speaker 1: We are beginning a new segment called This Isn't Old
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  Speaker 1: Man Music, and our very first guest Episode one is
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  Speaker 1: the one and only iconic Grammy winning Sister Sledge. We
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  Speaker 1: have Camille Sledge and we have Debbie. How you doing,
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  Speaker 1: Debbie and Camille, thank you for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Sister Sledge is blasted and honor to have provided the
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  Speaker 1: soundtrack to Countless Lives. Hailing from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the great
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  Speaker 1: state of Sisters, Debbie, Joni, Kathy and Kim became household
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  Speaker 1: names and a symbol of unity with their nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 1: nine worldwide smash it an iconic album, We Are Family,
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  Speaker 1: or better known as We.
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  Speaker 2: Are Family all Right, All.
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  Speaker 1: My sisters and me. Jony unfortunately passed away in twoenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: God Rest her Soul. The multi lead vocal group were
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  Speaker 1: responsible for some of the biggest dance anthems of all time.
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  Speaker 1: Lost in music. He's the Greatest Dancer and Thinking of
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  Speaker 1: You are universally cherished songs that bring people together in love,
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  Speaker 1: life and a very very soulful groove. Sister Sledge has
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  Speaker 1: performed on some of the world's most prestigious stages and
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  Speaker 1: this is impressive. Listen up including Carnegie Hall, Madison Square Garden,
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  Speaker 1: London's Royal Albert Hall, glaston Berry's iconic Pyramid Stage. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that must have been some experience, as they have also
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  Speaker 1: performed for the Clintons at the White House and even
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  Speaker 1: before the Honorable Pope Francis himself during the twenty fifteen
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  Speaker 1: World Meeting of Families in Philadelphia, PA, the Great State
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  Speaker 1: of Over the years, the Family Group was a massive
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  Speaker 1: string of gold and platinum HiT's, generating total sales of
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  Speaker 1: over twenty million worldwide and earning hundreds of awards and commendations,
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  Speaker 1: including Grammy nominations for Record of the Year, Best R
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  Speaker 1: and B Duover Group, Best Produced CD for Joni SLID's
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  Speaker 1: works on their Africa Eye's album. Their worldwide anthem We
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  Speaker 1: Are Family, was entered into the prestigious Library of Congress
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand and seventeen. Ladies welcome, just so honored
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  Speaker 1: to have you. Your music has been such a part
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  Speaker 1: of the soundtrack of my life. I specifically remember the
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates run what was in nineteen seventy nine and
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  Speaker 1: they adopted that song in their clubhouse and they won
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  Speaker 1: the whole ball of wax.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having us.
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  Speaker 1: You've touched so many people's lives, even making your songs
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  Speaker 1: onto shows like Gilmore Girls. What's it like to see
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  Speaker 1: your music still living in the pop culture atmosphere and
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  Speaker 1: television all these years later.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing. I think we're all we're all amazed and
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  Speaker 2: thrilled that you know that song that God has used
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  Speaker 2: us in such a powerful way too, and that song
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  Speaker 2: just keeps going and that just keeps us amazed, and
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  Speaker 2: the audiences are still so alive, and so there's just
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  Speaker 2: a great energy every time we perform that song. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so we're very thrilled. And you know, even now we're
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  Speaker 2: working with the second generation Sister Sledge. So this is
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  Speaker 2: Camille my daughter, Camille Sledge, my daughter, and we are
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  Speaker 2: performing as Sisters Ledge featuring Slegendary, so that you have
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  Speaker 2: a whole new other surge of Sister's Ledge coming along.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so very proud second generation.
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  Speaker 1: Just like Gillmore Girls, it just doesn't stop. It keeps
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  Speaker 1: getting bigger and better. When Laurel, I and Rory joke
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  Speaker 1: about being like we are family in season three, it
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  Speaker 1: really shows how that song has become part of everyday language.
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  Speaker 1: But did you ever manage?
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  Speaker 2: Do you?
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever imagine it would grow into such a
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  Speaker 1: cultural phenomenon.
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  Speaker 2: We had no idea, Damil, did you I have no idea?
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  Speaker 2: Camille actually grew up when that song was first coming out.
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  Speaker 3: I remember you just being my mom.
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  Speaker 2: I'm at home, I'm like, oh, this is on the video.
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  Speaker 2: My mom thinks that most kids thought I was lying.
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  Speaker 3: And then you know, we would just dance to it
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  Speaker 3: and that was it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, take us back to the beginning. How did the
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  Speaker 1: four sisters from Philadelphia first aside de formacy group?
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  Speaker 3: Was?
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  Speaker 1: It was the music always in the house?
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  Speaker 2: Growing up, music was always in the house. I mean
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  Speaker 2: we had aunts and uncles. That's saying we found a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of and my mom early in our lives, we
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  Speaker 2: moved to a house that had a bunch of jazz
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  Speaker 2: records left in the basement and we were we That's
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  Speaker 2: my first, uh introduction to the world of jazz. So
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  Speaker 2: we have and we have so many genres of music
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  Speaker 2: that we've been exposed to, and we love all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of music. We just love all kinds of music. So
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  Speaker 2: we started out as just singing for fun, just the
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  Speaker 2: four of us singing, and we've we learned that we
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  Speaker 2: could harmonize very early. My sister Carol there are you know,
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  Speaker 2: there are actually five sisters. My sister Carol actually started
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  Speaker 2: us out playing around, you know, pretending to be a
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  Speaker 2: singing group. And that was fun. You know, she had
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  Speaker 2: us singing her background.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you think? What do you think of
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  Speaker 1: your biggest musical influences where when you were just starting out,
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  Speaker 1: what were they or growing up?
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  Speaker 2: Of course on the Philly Sound, there was some great
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  Speaker 2: music coming out of Philly. And there's some iconic artists
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  Speaker 2: out of Philly. There's there's Patty LaBelle, let's see. I
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  Speaker 2: was also I love Choka Khan. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: she's from Philly, but she often came to Yeah, she
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  Speaker 2: often came to Philly. These are iconic artists that there
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  Speaker 2: was every They could do everything with their voices and
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  Speaker 2: they just moved people and you know, and you could
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  Speaker 2: see the power, not only the power, but the passion
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  Speaker 2: with which they sang. They were giving of themselves, and
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  Speaker 2: that's one of the great things that we learned. Just
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  Speaker 2: give what you have, freely, give it, and everybody's going
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  Speaker 2: to enjoy the way you're enjoying it. Yeah, and that's
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  Speaker 2: why I'm also teaching these guys my kids. Our group
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  Speaker 2: is now we have Jonie's son, Thaddeus. Joni passed away
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  Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, and we have her son who is
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  Speaker 2: a powerhouse singer. He's a powerhouse like his mom, and
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  Speaker 2: he's honoring her the way he's performing. And then there's
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  Speaker 2: my son David, and of course my daughter Camille. And
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  Speaker 2: then there's Miss Tanya Tia, who is she's a slegendary
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  Speaker 2: sister because she's been with us for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: She was with us when Joanie was singing with us.
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  Speaker 2: And all of them are powerhouses. So I am more
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  Speaker 2: having fun than I am working when I'm performing with.
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  Speaker 3: Them, and we have these great mentors, you know, right.
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  Speaker 1: But let's talk a little bit about that Philly sound.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's sort of not getting its due in
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  Speaker 1: the business. I know a lot of musicians, you know,
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  Speaker 1: David Bowie and Springsteen and a lot of big names
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  Speaker 1: come to Philly to get that sound. They you know,
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  Speaker 1: they go to Detroit, obviously they go. But Philly is
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  Speaker 1: one of the unsung heroes in the soul and rhythm
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  Speaker 1: and blues ocean that people are dipping into. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really get the credit that it should, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's a phenomenally influential sound.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, there's something very very unique about Philly and
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  Speaker 2: Philly artists, the Philly musicians, Philly artists. One of the
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  Speaker 2: things that I think is unique is the that it's real.
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  Speaker 2: It's really. Yeah, they're giving something that they have that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, something of themselves that is real. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know a lot of a lot of music is today
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  Speaker 2: to me in comparison, is in some cases contrived. But
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not I'm not putting it down because you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's beautiful music, it's great. But there's something about that,
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  Speaker 2: the music that's coming from the real you.
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  Speaker 1: Right, the way it's, the way it's made, the way
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  Speaker 1: it's recorded, the way it's.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, there's something soulful about it.
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  Speaker 2: It can't be duplicated because you're getting real.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get everybody in the same room and just light
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  Speaker 1: it up right, capture that. Yeah, I don't do that anymore. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Well every band has to pay its dos, right. Do
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  Speaker 1: you remember one of the toughest gigs you played in
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  Speaker 1: the early days and how it helped to shape you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's tough working with sisters, I'll say that because everybody,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're all we're all fully Yeah, my sisters are.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're so talented, and they're they're so strong. We
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  Speaker 2: have a We grew up in a house of strong women.
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  Speaker 2: I know. We had no brothers. Okay, my mom, uh,
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  Speaker 2: she kind of raised us by herself when we was
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  Speaker 2: from a very young age. I mean my parents separated early,
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  Speaker 2: but she had a lot to deal with because women
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  Speaker 2: are girls. You have a young lady, you have a
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  Speaker 2: young girl. Girls are harder to raise than boys. Boys. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you can you can predict, but girls are unpredictable. So
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  Speaker 2: we had some very strong, willed women, very creative. All
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  Speaker 2: have their ideas of what the music should be. So
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  Speaker 2: rehearsals would take longer because everybody's idea had to be heard.
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  Speaker 2: But it paid off, you know, it paid off, right,
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  Speaker 2: And so I would say, right now, I'm experiencing something
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  Speaker 2: different than I have been, which is joy. There's just
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  Speaker 2: so much joy. Everybody's so happy to be doing what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing. And we were under the pressure to be perfect,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we felt like we have to do this perfect.
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  Speaker 2: We were new at this, we were doing it for fun,
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  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, we have to do that.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing this with pay. It's like, yeah, on on
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  Speaker 2: a scale that, Okay, somebody has hired us to do something,
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  Speaker 2: so we really want to do it well, we really
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  Speaker 2: want to please them, we really want to please the audience,
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  Speaker 2: and we still have that, but we don't have that pressure.
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  Speaker 3: Story though.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say that, Okay, missed flights, missing luggage,
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  Speaker 4: you know, all kinds of really want like crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's It's just like, this is gonna be tough,
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be I heard stories and it's fun. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's still something that I choose to do even still.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what about your first record deal. You remember that
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  Speaker 1: day when you get your first record deal. How excited
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  Speaker 1: you were.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we we we've been in shotgut since we went
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  Speaker 2: in and did a did a an audition and just
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  Speaker 2: a cold audition. We just sang a cappella in front
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  Speaker 2: of a record executive and the next thing we knew
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  Speaker 2: we were hired, and that's like wow wow. And they
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  Speaker 2: put us with producers of course, you know, and we
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  Speaker 2: had some great producers and really very talented producers, but
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  Speaker 2: it was all music that whenever we heard the music,
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  Speaker 2: it was like, Okay, we want to do this the
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  Speaker 2: very best we can possibly do this. So we'd learned
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  Speaker 2: everything as much as we could learn stay time in
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  Speaker 2: the studio. We knew studio was costing money, but when
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  Speaker 2: we met Nile and Bernard, it was totally different. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't know what the songs were. We had never heard
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  Speaker 2: the tracks. We stepped into the studio and we'd learned
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  Speaker 2: the song right there. And that was their way of
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  Speaker 2: producing it was they wanted it fresh, wanted it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: us hearing it for the first time. They wanted the
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  Speaker 2: fresh recording of this new song, which great, a great,
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  Speaker 2: a great way of producing. So my mom had the
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  Speaker 2: she had the job of protecting these four young girls.
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  Speaker 2: So all of a sudden she became a manager and
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  Speaker 2: that was something. But we had an it was an adventure.
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  Speaker 2: The whole time has been an adventure. So we had
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  Speaker 2: we were put together with producers, we had to she
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  Speaker 2: found lawyers that could help us with contracts. But it
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  Speaker 2: was all very new to us and a huge adventure
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  Speaker 2: we had. We were put together with different producers. They
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  Speaker 2: all had their different ways of producing, so we learned
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  Speaker 2: a lot through all that experience. And of course one
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  Speaker 2: of the most challenging, I guess and most successful would
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  Speaker 2: be probably the Sheik organization with Nile and Bernard very different.
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  Speaker 2: We weren't used to their way of producing, but it
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  Speaker 2: paid off.
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  Speaker 1: You're talking about Niles Rogers and Bernard Edwards.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, wow, giants, Yeah, giants.
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  Speaker 3: Before the microphone cut out, she was saying that they
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  Speaker 3: always used to rehearse and have the music beforehand, right,
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  Speaker 3: And then you're saying when they finally got with Nile
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  Speaker 3: and Bernard, their production their producing style was that they
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  Speaker 3: couldn't hear the songs first.
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  Speaker 2: That that was interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Because the mic must have cut out on that bar,
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  Speaker 3: because that was interesting to me. And then they had
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  Speaker 3: to hear it for the first time when they got
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  Speaker 3: to the studio.
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  Speaker 2: Not like that it was difficult, right, but that it
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  Speaker 2: was different. It was different and so it was it
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  Speaker 2: was their way of coming up with a very fresh
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  Speaker 2: sounding performance from the artist, which would you love that
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to really meat?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they trusted their initial instincts in the moment
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  Speaker 1: and they went with that's that's great. Yeah, it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of Rick Rubenesque if you get the rest, if you
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  Speaker 1: get the reference. But Camille, what was it like watching
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  Speaker 1: your mom and her sister build such a strong cultural
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  Speaker 1: family presence together?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? It was. It was beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: I'm also thrilled to watch all of these strong women
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  Speaker 3: in my family. You know, they discontinue a legacy for
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  Speaker 3: decades after decades, I.
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  Speaker 2: Was always so.
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  Speaker 3: In awe of watching them on stage to where it
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  Speaker 3: became my dream as well.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I want to be just like you.
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  Speaker 3: And then it was you gotta read this book called
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  Speaker 3: The Business of Music. It's like this big read it,
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  Speaker 3: then you can be a singer. I'm like, oh, I
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  Speaker 3: tried to read it, but I think I fell asleep
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  Speaker 3: on top of it and ruled on the pages. But
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  Speaker 3: I tried, But that book is still lingering in my
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  Speaker 3: life to this day.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, it changed a lot, and I think you know
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  Speaker 2: a lot.
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  Speaker 3: More well, glad that you told me that, because I
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  Speaker 3: started to pay more attention to the business side. I
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  Speaker 3: think instead of saying, oh, I'm an artist.
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  Speaker 1: You know, show show business.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but smart women.
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  Speaker 1: We are Family is I mean, it's so much more
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  Speaker 1: than a hit record. It's an anthem. Let's just call
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  Speaker 1: it that. What it is. What do you think it
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  Speaker 1: is about that song that makes it timeless across generations?
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  Speaker 3: The message?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that message and the fact that it's simple, simple truth.
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  Speaker 2: M h. Everyone can relate to those words. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: it's easy to Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I got all my sisters and me. I mean it's there,
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  Speaker 1: it is. We are family. I got all my sisters
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  Speaker 1: in me. Boom done. What a what a hook?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: What a hu. So when was the first time you
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  Speaker 1: heard the song on the radio? Your first song? What
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  Speaker 1: was your first song? When was the first time you
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  Speaker 1: heard it on the radio? Do you remember that?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so I will say that the most Well, the
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  Speaker 2: first time we saw and I actually saw an album
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  Speaker 2: was a huge thrill. Okay, just just oh here it is.
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  Speaker 2: But the first time that we actually heard we Are Family.
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  Speaker 2: That really stands out is we're listening to it on
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  Speaker 2: the radio in Germany and they are. They are recording.
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  Speaker 2: There's a live recording of the Pittsburgh Pirates, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the game, and the whole audience is singing, we are
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  Speaker 2: family and they and the announcer is saying, I can't
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  Speaker 2: believe this. The entire audience is singing, we are family
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  Speaker 2: and we were a made We were in a taxi
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  Speaker 2: listening to it on the radio. It's like, oh wow,
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  Speaker 2: that really impressed us. It really that was so exciting
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  Speaker 2: for us.
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  Speaker 1: Let me take you back to this. Let me take
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  Speaker 1: you back to the studio when you're creating that song.
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  Speaker 1: Are you in there with Niles and Bernard when you're
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  Speaker 1: creating that song?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so studio I love.
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  Speaker 1: To talk about this type of stuff. Did you know
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be a big song? Did Niles
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  Speaker 1: and Bernard just go, Wow, we've got something here and
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  Speaker 1: you and they played it back and you you know,
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  Speaker 1: you heard it a million times and pieces in a
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  Speaker 1: whole and you know, and a second part of the questions,
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  Speaker 1: did you ever get sick of hearing the song in
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  Speaker 1: the studio? But let's let's take the first part of that.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know that it was and I know you
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  Speaker 1: knew his sisters Wow, this is good stuff. You don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You can't predict how it's gonna you know, the marketplace
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  Speaker 1: is gonna accept it. But did you know you had something?
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  Speaker 1: Did everybody know?
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  Speaker 2: No, everybody didn't know. I believe that Now and Bernard
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  Speaker 2: knew what they were doing. And but they were new,
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  Speaker 2: new producers. They were new producers coming out, and they
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  Speaker 2: probably didn't know what to do with these four sisters.
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  Speaker 2: They were like they were. We were assigned to them
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  Speaker 2: from the record company because they had new they had
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  Speaker 2: new artists, and so they had these new producers, so
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  Speaker 2: they were putting, you know, putting things together. When we
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  Speaker 2: met Nile and Bernard, they had these great tracks. They
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  Speaker 2: were also working on their Chic their own album coming out,
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  Speaker 2: so they were also still figuring out which tracks are
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  Speaker 2: we going to use for this group and which tracks
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  Speaker 2: are we going to use for our own album. So
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  Speaker 2: we we got a chance to hear some of the
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  Speaker 2: great tracks that are now on the Chic album as
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  Speaker 2: far as we Are Family goes. We heard this great
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  Speaker 2: this great track, but there were no there was no
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  Speaker 2: singing on it. And in the studio, I believe that
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Nile and Bernard were writing as they went, so I
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: believe that we are Family is actually a true picture
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: of what they were seeing in the studio from this
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: family group of sisters, and they're so simple. We are family.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Have got all my sisters with me. Everyone can see
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: where together as we walk on by don cute. That's
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: you know, that's such a happy, truthful song. And and
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: we were also learning the melodies as we went. You know,
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  Speaker 2: one of the things that my younger sister Kathy says
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  Speaker 2: is Nil and Bernard are not singers, so so they're
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: they're trying to give us what they're singing, and we're
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: trying to hear a tone in it, which was funny,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: which was funny. But I think that you know, especially
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  Speaker 2: on those lead vocals, Kathy did an awesome job. She
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: did an awesome job, and we're all we're all very
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: proud of the project, very happy with it, and we
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: had no idea. I think they were shocked as to
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: how far that song has gone. I remember doing some
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: television shows with Nylon Bernard and we could see them
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: like on the side stage and they look like they
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: shock and how how worldwide this song was going. Right,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: So and that's that's that's a that's a story that
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: just makes me smile.
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  Speaker 1: So every time you play it live, and since the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: song was recorded and you start performing it live, do
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: you see a perceptible change in the audience's energy and engagement,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Not that they aren't already like into it already, but.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I think yes, I see the audience is very genuine,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: genuinely people are having fun and they know the song
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: and they're they're singing the top of their lungs. There
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: is no holding back. This is a song I know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: this is my song.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can sing every word.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there is no holding back.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Did you ever step back from the microphone and just
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: let the audience sing part of the song?
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  Speaker 2: Definitely exactly what we do. And the music even our
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: band knows to cut off so they can hear themselves
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and they just get louder. So it's just awesome. And
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: we're still doing that to this day. And it's just
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: so Yeah.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: So many of your songs like Lost in Music, thinking
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: of you, He's the greatest dancer. They're still popular day.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: You feel the same energy performing them now as you
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: did in the late seventies and eighties.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Always, and we've had so many memories that goes with that,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: you know, like my sister Jelly, she was the lead
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: singer for Lost in Music, and every time we performed
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: that song, it just brings back good feelings that we
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: can just remember all that she was to us and
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: all that she brought to us and all that she
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: brought to the audience, and now we have her so
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: on that is singing with us, and thadd is, yeah, yeah.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: You can tell me what does this nice little like
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: He'll talk to the audience about who his mom was
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: and say, you know that she has the best seat
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: in the place tonight, you know, and I'm going to
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: do my best.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: To honor her.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: She's up and having And then he says, I have one.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Question for you.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: You know, it gets all quiet and everybody's like, oh
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: my gosh.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: He goes, are you ready to get Lost in Music
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: in the band?
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Not then? And so he is absolutely, he's absolutely a
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: performer just like she was. I mean, he commands the audience.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: He's a very strong boy, just like his mom. Yeah
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: it's awesome all that energy is there. Yeah, it's just beautiful.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Here's a question, Uh, if you could give advice to
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: your younger selves just starting out as sister Sledge, what
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: would it be?
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, well I've been trying to. I've been trying to.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I've been trying to teach them that from from day one.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Well no, well for now, the main thing is be
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: true to yourself. Really find what is what is yours
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: and give that and share that freely. And what I
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: mean by that is you're not holding back because you
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: have a gift, and that gift is for sharing, forgiving,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: and enjoy yourself because all of us have the individual
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: we have. We have all we all have gifts, but
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: we won't if we don't share them. We're not going
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: to bless others. Others are are going to be blessed
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: by your sharing what you have. And we're learning this
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: all your unique gifts. You know, you can't be true
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: to Yeah, you can't copy someone. You can learn from someone,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: but you have to find out what what is it
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: that you have to give and then develop that. I
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: think that was Joey's gift too.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so simple and it's so powerful because you
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: know it's as a you know, I write a lot
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of songs and I used to perform and all that,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: and you find trying to find your voice. And you
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: know where my voice sits, and you know what I
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: do best, it's just blues.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Well really that's powerful.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I can do other types. I just I struggle a
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: little bit with it, and I take vocal lessons and
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: strengthen my muscles in my throat, the whole thing. You
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: go through that every day. I know how it works
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to go on tour and the whole thing. You've got
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to really have that strong voice and sustain it. But
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: it's it's my voice. It's in the blues, and that's
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: where I can have fun and be free.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: And once you learn that, find it right, it's like
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Goya all this time there it is.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Write me too.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I'm like what do I say?
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: So, you know, you finally get there and it's like.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: This is yeah, this is me, this is what this
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: is what I have. I can't give it. This is
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: what I always.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Told you, and that's what I tell young acting students
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: is you know, when I was going to acting school
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: in New York, everybody wanted to be Marlon Brando and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: they were imitating Brando, they were imitating John Malkovich, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: it's you know, it's the guys, the guys were copycats
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: more than the girls. The women were more original in
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: their interpretations of things. They weren't trying as much to
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: be Meryl Streep or whomever you know. And it's just
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and so I tell you, I say, find out who
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you are, what your voice is, and that can't be copied.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: That's the original thing that casting people want, that producers
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: want exactly because that's unique. It's so simple.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Probably your best version, right, And I tell them you
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: have you have the gold. So don't worry about uh,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: somebody recognizing you. Just keep developing your gold because it
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: it'll come out. Yeah, it'll come out.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Put the time, put the time in.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: And now, Camille, you're part of this group of legends. Huh.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: How does how does it feel to fill such big shoes? Well,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you know, also, you're bringing in your own flavor, right,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: You're bringing on your.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Own That's all I can do. I can't be my mom.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I can't be my mom. I know that I would
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: have some huge shoes to fill because they were powerful.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: They're all still amazing.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: These are me artist. Yeah.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: So, and that's true. I have learned to just sort
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: of bring my own thing to the stage and try
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: my best to give.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: That and not hold back.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I think we all are getting
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: even better and better. It's like you have the best
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: mentor and the best training, so I'm.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Really really and you've got real audiences.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not a game, you know.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Love it absolutely, adore my mom is being able to
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: spend some really quality time with you.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: You know, when we're at home, it's almost like I
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: never see you come over, you know.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Plan you know, so.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Still a lot of touring, a lot of projects. Tell
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: us about your touring schedule and uh, yeah.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Come back a couple of days ago.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where where were you?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: We were in Manchester you gay and then uh Lucern.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then we came back home so we
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: could rest up so we wouldn't look like we have
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: bags under our eyes for you. For you, but because
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: we were done data, it was really bad. We were like,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: it's crazy, We're so glad they scheduled it out until October.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: When you had when are you head and back out?
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: So we've got we're in preparation right now on the
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: month of October, if that starts, we have a few
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: weeks in October, uh to prepare for November and November
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: show with Live with an Orchestra in in Belgium. In Belgium,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: will also be in the Bahamas, right, Yeah, and then
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: to the Bahamas. And it's not a cruise.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I'll bet you can't wait for that.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Gig.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope it's nice, you know, I just I
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: really never. I want to have a chance to see
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: this beautiful water. Yeah, we're looking forward to that. We
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: could use a couple of day. We're like, we can
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: use some water out here.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Well, it has been an honor getting to talk to
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you a little bit, uh, Camille and Debbie and continued
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: success and stay out there giving the people all that
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: gold and all that love.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Ye.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: And it's truly truly an amazing legacy that you were
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: laying down for your fans still and we really appreciate
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you coming on.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much. Yeah, feel very blessed.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Take care, ladies, So grateful, Thank you again, and thanks.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: For the stories and the conversation really. Uh, And that's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: going to wrap us up, folks. Remember best fans on
• 32:57
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• 33:01
  Speaker 1: where you lead, we will follow.
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