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Andrew Ference Has Some Stories: World Cup is Back, Oilers Lose Leon and Auston Goes Down. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, coming up on NHL Unscripted, Centefil and sixty
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  Speaker 1: the Little Oscars recap Big Night Percenters and of course
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  Speaker 1: One Battle after another. Terrific guest and Andrew Ferrens, He's
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  Speaker 1: got stories about kidnapping prospects is Edmonton, what it's like
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  Speaker 1: playing for a coach that doesn't speak English and playing
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  Speaker 1: for a legendary coach who isn't a big fan of yours.
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  Speaker 1: Plus we'll talk about Austin Matthews' injury and Leon Bisetle.
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  Speaker 1: But we begin with stolen valor. All right, tell us
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  Speaker 1: get this lower down, the rundown, and this is what
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  Speaker 1: we're leading with.
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  Speaker 2: Jad.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in Denver. It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Penguin's Avalanche, great game on Prime ESPN's the Great Bob
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  Speaker 1: was choosing, ready to call the game, and I look up.
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  Speaker 2: I see the nord Ks.
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  Speaker 1: My, oh my god, they're w on the nord Ea
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  Speaker 1: Jersey tonight. Like yeah, go to the stupid ear shop.
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  Speaker 1: Quebec starter jacket, A couple of average looking.
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  Speaker 3: Hood like ninety five dollars.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not tropping niney if I gonna spend ninety five
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  Speaker 1: dollars in Hooey, I'll do it love all Provence.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do it in your bootleg hoodie in Denver.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm walking around and seeing the amount of people
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  Speaker 1: wearing McKinnon Nordiek's jerseys or like mccar Nordiaks from like
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  Speaker 1: they really they have wrapped up in this thing. And
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  Speaker 1: for you in town guys from Quebec ripping off the
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  Speaker 1: Nordiaks again, I was up two minds. The one hand,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, dude that you know front Pops and I'm
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  Speaker 1: picturing Stefan fies. But at the same time they got
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  Speaker 1: drilled seven to two. Good ran it right out of Resacon.
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  Speaker 1: You must have been thrilled with that result. It was
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  Speaker 1: all Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, They'm glad they got rammed up the ass after
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  Speaker 4: you stolen BA. It's I'm not gonna stay long on
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  Speaker 4: this just because I already had my diatribe and screamed
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  Speaker 4: from the rooftops and nobody listened. But again it's embarrassing,
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  Speaker 4: like get your own jersey, get you stole. The team
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  Speaker 4: was sold from out, it was sold from under from Quebec.
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  Speaker 4: We thought we were getting a team back. We haven't
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  Speaker 4: gotten a team back. I just I that's all I
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  Speaker 4: gotta say. I I well deserved seven to I hope
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  Speaker 4: every time they wear the Nordiks jersey they get absolutely
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  Speaker 4: dog walked every single time.
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  Speaker 1: To your point, Nate, this year they are two two
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  Speaker 1: and two and they wear the Nordicks jerseys. They are
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  Speaker 1: a fave of the team, even I think last year
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  Speaker 1: they were not particularly good when they wear the Nordick jersey.
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  Speaker 3: That is the revenge of the French in the Cape
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  Speaker 3: a Qua.
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  Speaker 5: I love the look of the jerseys, but I can't
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  Speaker 5: comment on the about the Quebec part because I'm not
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  Speaker 5: from Quebec and I don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to.
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  Speaker 3: Jersey is fired.
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  Speaker 4: Fire, get it.
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  Speaker 5: It is great, But I'm not going to comment on
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  Speaker 5: the other part because I'm not from Quebec.
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  Speaker 2: I'll let I'll let tal, I'll let tal JD get
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  Speaker 2: to that go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Stolen valary are much more classic Americans, stolen land stolen.
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  Speaker 2: As the oscars from Alaska.
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  Speaker 1: Tell what do you think that jersey was awesome? It's
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  Speaker 1: our remembrance about great the Nordiks are.
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  Speaker 6: It's a great jersey and a great logo. They own
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  Speaker 6: the I P, so legally they can do whatever they
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  Speaker 6: want with it. All I would suggest is that these
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  Speaker 6: teams that were the throwbacks, like the Hurricanes wearing the
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  Speaker 6: Whaler or the Nordiaks wearing the excuse me, the as
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  Speaker 6: wearing the Nordics, play an exhibition game in the city
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  Speaker 6: wearing the jerseys. That's all I'm saying. Bring it to
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  Speaker 6: the original city. Hurricane should wear the Whalers jerseys in
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  Speaker 6: Hartford for an exhibition game after wear the DKs jerseys
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  Speaker 6: in Quebec city for an exhibition game.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that will make gd JD a little
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  Speaker 3: less sour on the whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll donate to the cause or something, you know,
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  Speaker 4: some nonprofits in Quebec and Hertford. But yeah, let's move
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  Speaker 4: on from this because I'm gonna say something even worse
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  Speaker 4: than what I've said already to start the show.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we are the world on the heels
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  Speaker 1: are the incredible Olympics and the Four Nation tournaments. We
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  Speaker 1: got more best on best NHL and HL Players Association.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's got Monday, the twenty twenty eight World Cup
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  Speaker 1: of Hockey taking place in Calgary, Edmonton and wait for it, Prague.
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  Speaker 1: That all goes together. Yeah, Calgary, Edmonton and Prague. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we got the checks in there, let's go Calgary's news.
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  Speaker 1: Staleia Arena allegedly will be opened by then. The tournament,
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  Speaker 1: semi finals and final play at Rogers Place in Edmondson,
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  Speaker 1: and we can.
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  Speaker 3: All agree that's a great rank. Tournament will feature eight teams,
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  Speaker 3: no word you have.
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  Speaker 1: We'll bring back the ugly trophy that Frank Gary designed
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  Speaker 1: for the two thousand and four World Cup, but I
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  Speaker 1: kick it to Nate as the soul American. This is
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  Speaker 1: pretty massive. You know this as well as anybody. The Americans,
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  Speaker 1: they care when it comes to their country. World Baseball
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  Speaker 1: Classic USA loses, people are pissed. How do we lose
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  Speaker 1: to Venezuela. And yet you know when it comes to hockey,
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  Speaker 1: they really care on a national level, not necessarily about
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  Speaker 1: their team. So we've seen what's happened with the four
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  Speaker 1: Nations Canada one. Now in the Olympics, America wins. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think the level excitement's going to be for us?
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  Speaker 1: Say now that they've beaten Canada and we'll try to
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  Speaker 1: repeat the World Cup pressure.
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  Speaker 2: The pressure's on the US now after winning it.
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  Speaker 5: And I think, you know, after what I mean, triple
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  Speaker 5: gold obviously with all the different Olympic what a game
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  Speaker 5: it is. Yeah, it's been. It's been great for USA hockey.
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  Speaker 5: But I think for this the World Cup. And I
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  Speaker 5: was talking about this with our colleague Mike Rupp, and
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what you guys think, but is there
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  Speaker 5: a chance, Like I think there's non negotiables for obviously
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  Speaker 5: eight countries you have US, Canada, Sweden, Finland, Czech, youa.
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  Speaker 5: Those are the five, Like I think they're non negotiable.
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  Speaker 5: And what if I mean, because you won't have you're
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  Speaker 5: not going to have all NHL players on Switzerland and
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  Speaker 5: Germany Slovakia I mean Slovakia I think has earned it too.
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  Speaker 5: But what if you add a team Europe or maybe
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  Speaker 5: a team something a little bit different. I think just
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  Speaker 5: because you know, you see, I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if they're going to be able to you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you're trying to sell the product of this game, of
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  Speaker 5: the World Cup. And if you have, you know, like
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  Speaker 5: we did the last World Cup with Team Europe, team
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  Speaker 5: North America, like Russia, just another team if they're able to,
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  Speaker 5: which would be amazing. If they're there, that's another team.
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  Speaker 2: But this is this is great.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I'm pumped for this. I mean to be
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  Speaker 5: in Edmonton, Calgary, Prague. I mean, this is gonna be. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: this is gonna be all time.
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  Speaker 4: Say I suck at us not getting a place to play.
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  Speaker 4: That's pretty funny after winning, after sweeping, because Nate's right
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  Speaker 4: with the Paralympic gold medal that canad against us. They
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  Speaker 4: beat us yet again. That was a great game too. Man,
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  Speaker 4: it's so impressive to watch those guys scooting around out there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I just love the marketing for it. It's a
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  Speaker 3: seated rivalry.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I was just one of the It's one
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  Speaker 4: of the great marketing place I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was, Do I laugh at this? Do I not?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's incredible, but yeah, the event's great. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you know Gary's got in the NHL have now got
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  Speaker 4: a system in place. I think they've realized that these
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  Speaker 4: best on best minus Russia are very important I think
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  Speaker 4: to growing the game, not only you know, worldwide, but
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  Speaker 4: specifically in the US. I think USA fans love it. Anytime.
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  Speaker 4: Any of my decrepit friends that don't watch any hockey,
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  Speaker 4: but they come out of the woodwork for a USA
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  Speaker 4: game just to ship I think is important because those guys,
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  Speaker 4: you know, those people, you know, they they generate revenue,
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  Speaker 4: and you see the sign ups with youth hockey. I
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  Speaker 4: think it's important. So it's gonna be great. I agree
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  Speaker 4: with Nate. I think you know, I think they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: keep trying to add teams maybe, but you know, right
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  Speaker 4: now it's gonna It's nice to see prog get a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of a nod there, and you could see
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  Speaker 4: the excitement on Posternok when he was announcing it like
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  Speaker 4: like a kid. He looked like a twelve year old kid,
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  Speaker 4: just being like, yes, it's back.
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  Speaker 5: And you can even add too that it's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: NHL rules, so it's gonna be a little bit different,
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  Speaker 5: a little bit harder. There's gonna be fighting probably, I
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  Speaker 5: mean we will probably get that, so another you add
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  Speaker 5: that to the mix, and yeah, it's a lot of hockey.
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  Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, I think this
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  Speaker 5: is so good for the game and for hockey, and
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  Speaker 5: we we want this, we need this right.
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  Speaker 1: That brings us to wanting a needing and that's the
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  Speaker 1: episode owners wanting and needing a Stanley Cup.
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  Speaker 3: But now it's Leon.
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  Speaker 1: Buysidle is taut put the Oilers to the postseason. Tell yeah,
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  Speaker 1: very good by Tell give out for the remainder of
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  Speaker 1: the regular season. Lower body injury sustained Sunday night against Nashville.
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  Speaker 1: Edmonton beat San Jose five to three Tuesday Night. But
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  Speaker 1: the Oilers, this is interesting, JD. You forget about trying
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  Speaker 1: to win a Stanley Cup. Forget about trying to get
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  Speaker 1: to a Stanley Cup. How about trying to win the
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  Speaker 1: division and even make the playoffs. It's a dogfight right
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  Speaker 1: down the Pacific. They cannot take themselves for granted here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody in the Pacific's trying to lose their way
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  Speaker 4: into the playoffs. Right the Dogs are gonna win. First place, Oilers, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: first place, the first place Oilers right now. Listen. I
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  Speaker 4: think that was a big win last night against San Jose.
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  Speaker 4: San Jose has three games in hand. I think on everybody.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, Vegas hasn't played well. You look at
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  Speaker 4: I mean any team in that division, I'd be worried
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  Speaker 4: not I think, listen, Vegas, Edmonton and Anaheim are gonna
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  Speaker 4: make it. I just think over time, those other teams
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  Speaker 4: are going to fall off a little bit. I think
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  Speaker 4: the closest team now is six points in Seattle. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, getting Leon healthy is going to be important.
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  Speaker 4: But this could potentially be like where they end up
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  Speaker 4: in the standings. I think it's never been more important
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  Speaker 4: to get the first round, not the first round by,
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  Speaker 4: but to get a wild card team if you're Edmonton
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  Speaker 4: in the Pacific, because you're going to have a way
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  Speaker 4: easier path than the than the Metropolitan, not the Metropolitan, Jesus,
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  Speaker 4: the Central will have so but you know, Leon Dreys
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  Speaker 4: will be back. I think he'll be He'll make it
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  Speaker 4: back for the playoffs. But again, they have a lot
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  Speaker 4: of players on this team that can play hockey, and
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  Speaker 4: whenever Leon falls off or somebody, they always got Hymen,
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  Speaker 4: they got NuGen Hopkins, and let's not forget they still
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  Speaker 4: got Mick Jesus. So they played really well against against
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  Speaker 4: San Jose and uh yeah, I'm not listen, I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm still not worried about him. No panic yet,
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  Speaker 4: not a pannikin.
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  Speaker 1: But also this King's five points by in Vegas for
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  Speaker 1: third and Pacific they're separate only by one point right now,
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  Speaker 1: Nap d Anaheim, Vegas and Edmondson one point.
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  Speaker 5: It's tight right now, It's really tight. And I agree
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  Speaker 5: with you Da on this one too. I think you
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  Speaker 5: look at teams when they get injuries and they lose
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  Speaker 5: star players, and sometimes it can make a team defend better.
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  Speaker 5: And I think for the Wilers that'll be the case.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you see them talking about you see Hymen
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  Speaker 5: and NuGen Hopkins and all I'm talking about how we
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  Speaker 5: have to defend, we have to defend, and they did.
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  Speaker 5: They play a really good game against San Jose. And
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  Speaker 5: I think that you know, having NuGen Hopkins too, he
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  Speaker 5: doesn't play, didn't play center last night, but he can
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  Speaker 5: play center, so you have that as well in your
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  Speaker 5: back pocket if you're not blocked. So it's it's a
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  Speaker 5: silver lining for them, I think, because if they can
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  Speaker 5: play good hockey down the stretch without Leon and get
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  Speaker 5: him back playing, well, that's that's a nice, nice feather
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  Speaker 5: in their cap going to the playoffs. And who's I
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  Speaker 5: guess the question is is who's going to run with
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  Speaker 5: it here for the for the Pacific Division, because right
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  Speaker 5: now it's.
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  Speaker 4: Just I think Vegas is great. Worries Vegas worries me
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  Speaker 4: more than any of those other two, like more than
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  Speaker 4: Anaheim and Edmonton. Like Vegas the one that worries me.
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  Speaker 4: They are like listless out there. It's just like and
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  Speaker 4: they got no goaltending. At least Edmonton they've found Connor Ingram. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like at least he's kind of stolen the net.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Vegas, not Carl Hart would be the answer. It has
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  Speaker 3: not been the answer right now.
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  Speaker 4: Is Vegas still in Philly or somewhere?
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  Speaker 1: Meantime, speaking of interries of stars, Austin Matthews is a
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  Speaker 1: challenging season Toronto. Officially over captain the Americans a golden
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  Speaker 1: at the Olympics, but the Leaf fans was a tough
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  Speaker 1: year in Toronto, There's no question about it. Injuries, criticism
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  Speaker 1: from fans and media, career lows and goals and points
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  Speaker 1: grade three mc al Turners left fleg following a knee
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  Speaker 1: on knee from Radco Goudas. Before we get to the
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  Speaker 1: Goudas hit, because you know, people a upset about that.
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  Speaker 1: Thoughts were the Leafs. Nate and Austin go from here.
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  Speaker 1: He's still got a couple of years left in our contract.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Chief's going to be back, and Craig
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  Speaker 1: Ruby's gonna be gone. I don't think Brad trick Living's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be back because he's got one year left in
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  Speaker 1: his deal, so the price tak about him, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: they stook about Austin Matthews. I don't think it's that
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  Speaker 1: time yet. I think it's a little premature. But do
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  Speaker 1: you think this could be the last time we see
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  Speaker 1: the LEAs No.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's premature too.
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  Speaker 5: I would really like to see what Brad Treelyvin can
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  Speaker 5: do this offseason if he's still here, and how he
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  Speaker 5: can retool this team because they obviously still have some
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  Speaker 5: pillars on their team and some really good players that
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  Speaker 5: they can build around. So I would like to see
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  Speaker 5: what he can do. Granted, there's you know, there's a
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  Speaker 5: couple of teams that I've thought of about that where
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  Speaker 5: Austin Matthews could go. It would be a good fit.
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  Speaker 5: But I would like to see. I would like to
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  Speaker 5: see what Brad sreven can do and see how he can,
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  Speaker 5: you know, get this team back to the playoffs next year,
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  Speaker 5: because they should be a playoff team, they really should.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this year was a disaster, and there's been
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  Speaker 5: a dark cloud over this team since the goodest situation,
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  Speaker 5: and hopefully after this season with Austin Matthews getting healthy
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  Speaker 5: and them retooling this team, that they can get back
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  Speaker 5: to you know, the Leafs they've that they've been the
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  Speaker 5: last ten years, nine nine ten years, so at all
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  Speaker 5: there is.
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  Speaker 4: I listen delusions of grandeur by the Toronto fan base
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  Speaker 4: and the Toronto ownership. It is time, it is time,
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  Speaker 4: it is time. I don't know what they built this
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  Speaker 4: absolute Frankenstein monster this offseason. You know, way too many injuries, unfortunate,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't know when your core guys are standing
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  Speaker 4: out there and I know this has been beat to death,
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  Speaker 4: but when Austin gets hurt, you have Morgan Riley and
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  Speaker 4: Willie Nielanders saying we didn't see it, we didn't see it,
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  Speaker 4: when they're clearly there's still photos of them staring at
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  Speaker 4: the injury. And then now more and I heard Elliott
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  Speaker 4: Friedman talked about how Tree Living wasn't even there, ended
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  Speaker 4: up calling a bunch of the guys from the road
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  Speaker 4: when he found out. And then Morgan Riley tries to
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  Speaker 4: he fights yesterday against Seattle because they touched the goalie,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's too little, too late, Morgan Riley gone.
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  Speaker 4: If you can get something, trade Austin Matthew for two
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  Speaker 4: young studs and a couple picks Willie Nielander, or keep them,
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  Speaker 4: whatever you want to do. I think the only guy
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  Speaker 4: I would keep is Matthew. NY's the rest I think
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  Speaker 4: would be on the block. Just try to rebuild this
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  Speaker 4: on the fly. Re The biggest issue is listen, credit
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  Speaker 4: to Toronto. They've having build a team that can make
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs year in and year out and play meaningful hockey.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's very important. It's not to be discounted.
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  Speaker 4: But right now you have nothing in the prospect pool,
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  Speaker 4: you have nothing in the draft in terms of draft capital.
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  Speaker 4: You need to rebuild all of that and I think
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  Speaker 4: the only way to do that is with your top guys.
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  Speaker 4: So I think for me, it's the hardest pill I
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  Speaker 4: think to swallow. And the NHL can't have too many
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  Speaker 4: years of Toronto being a bad team, a seller dweller.
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  Speaker 4: But I just think it's time. I think Austin too,
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  Speaker 4: It's just been too much shit, and I think go
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  Speaker 4: get what you can. Somebody would pay whatever you want
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  Speaker 4: to call it of the Rants the Kings ransom for
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  Speaker 4: Austin Matthews at the center position. I think Nate and
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  Speaker 4: I would Utah a couple of teams, Utah La l
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  Speaker 4: a trade by field, trade Brandon Portray, Brant Clark for
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  Speaker 4: Ams a couple of times.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're asking for us a lot of this
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  Speaker 1: fan base. So you're asking a fan base which is
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  Speaker 1: star for cups in sixty seven nine straight years, you've
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  Speaker 1: made the plash, you've been great in the regular season,
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  Speaker 1: and after one terrible year, you're saying, blow it all up.
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  Speaker 3: And also, they're gonna be. They're gonna stink.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine telling the Yankees you're gonna stink, Lakers, You're gonna stink.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Cowboy's gonna stink. That's a tough thing to say to
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: your fan base that is so loyal and so hard
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: bitten and so expect they shell out all this.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: But you want them to stink for three years?
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, I agree you you can't, but you can't,
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: but they won't. But they're gonna be.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: If you do that, JDI, then they're gonna be ship
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: next year.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: I live in a world of hypotheticals, and this is
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: a big hypothetical.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I can't see it happening, but I understand you to
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: this point why it could potentially happen.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: That's a spect it.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: But buy Field Bran clarkifle first round.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: No, I need more than I don't think bifle.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Is that good. Utah I like Utah better. Utah is
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: a good I think give.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Me will you go get it from Utah? Can't get
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: some back.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: TJ Againla for sure add a maybe you add a
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: deep defenseman to They got a lot of assets, they do,
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: and they had a lot of too. They had a
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: lot of Andy's best buddies. With this with Clayton Keller,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: I mean Ryan Sam wants to make a big splash.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: Could be.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: The other part of is people are crapping on Radko
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Gudis and they hit after the game. Head coach Craig
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Bruce dirty dirty, the angel distant agreet five game suspension
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: is five the right amount?
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Too few or too many?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Nate because people are talking about repeat offender, but it's
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: been like seven years since he suspended before. Like I
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I think Raco Goudas is definitely a tough player, A
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: physical player at times can be dirty. But when somebody
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: said repeat offender. I got, well's sound like he's Olf Samuelson.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: How do you feel it?
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: He plays on the edge and I and I had
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Goody as a teammate. I had him as a roommate's
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: first two months in the league. He lived with me,
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: and Goody plays hard, he plays, he walks the line obviously,
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: and he's been suspended and he's done some things that
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: I've shaked my head at, you know, and this last
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: one I did again. And I was guessing anywhere from
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: being the five to seven game range, and I didn't
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: think it was too far off. I know people wanted
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: ten and however many of the people were freaking out,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: but it's just too much. I thought they got it right.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's a tough job, the process of going
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: through that, getting the suspension. You know, it's a bunch
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: of guys that are going through. It's not just George
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: making the call. So I think that it was it
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: was the right call at the end of the day.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: And five games is lots a lot of games. And
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: so but for Radco, you know, I love the guy,
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: but he he's the best way to describe him because
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: he's a hazard on the ice and the best and
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: worst way, So you go both sides of it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I love the guy as well, I
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: know him a little bit. I think he's a great
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: human off the ice. I think it should have been seven.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I think seven was the right number. I think it
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: would have satisfied a lot of people. Now, the bigger
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: issue is, you know, there is so much calling into
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: question right now, the Department of Players Safety. It's been crazy,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Like George Parrows came out had a statement, I everybody's
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: kind of like more to me, it's more the you know,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: it's it's not because I actually had a long conversation
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: with Paris at the Olympics and I was really you know, impressed,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: and just you know, obviously how big of a guy
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: isn't scary he is, but how how much he understands
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: the process and how much goes into it, and how
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: he's got so many guys ex players that are helping
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: him as well. And you know, I just think that
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: if it's there's this many questions going around and there's
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: this many you know, this much guffying by you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Connor McDavid and Alan Walsh and all of these people
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: saying we're not protecting the players. It gets really tough
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: because I'm like, you got to think, what's the other
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: what's the alternative? Okay, let's just go black and white.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: It's if you're a first time offender, it doesn't matter
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: first time or not. It's a suspendable offense. It's five games,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: and it's ten games, and then it's twenty five games
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: and there's just no does not matter. If something is
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: borderline to not, you're out. And if you do it
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: that way, you know, you also got to think about that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of money coming out of the pockets
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: of players, and then maybe that could work because you're
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: gonna then put the onus on the players to be
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: more protective of each other. But can you ask that
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: of of players to like played not on the edge
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: like a rad co goutis like, if you're you're going
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: to spend them five ways. So it's like, you have
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: you think of that as people. I'm always like you,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: you know, fans or somebody, you tell me what you
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: think it should be. But you got to think there's
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: so many things to weigh, and there's so many it's
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: it's not black and white.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, McDavid's quote if every time there's a suspension, everybody
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: complains about it. Why don't we take a look at
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the process, figure out if there's a better way to
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: make sure that both parties are happy, because it seems
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: like there's a lot of frustration.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: But I think it's a tough one. No matter what,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: it seems like, people are gonna be said about something.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no matter what, I mean, you're gonna get people
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: are going to be mad. We know that.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: But I agree with with JD and and I think
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: if you know, George Paros brought in, I think he
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: would be more than happy to bring in Connor McDavid
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: and say, hey, let's here's our process.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: This is how we do things.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: This is this is our team, this is how we
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: look at every game and angles of hits, suspensions, whatever
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: it may be. And and you know, and he maybe
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: he can give his two cents. I mean, if I'm
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: if I'm George and Connor says something, I've been no
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: problem having a conversation with him about it. And I
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: don't And I know George, and I don't think he
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: would have an issue with having a conversation with Connor too.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: See what happens to the cards to that.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: We'll get to Andrew Ferrens our special guests in second
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: but last topic of conversations, Little JD pov. This is
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: for Bob Bender. Bob loves the segment. He's been begging
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: for a JD POV, So we got one here, JD.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: As you give me a quizical look. You've been traveling
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: to the Northeast the last few days the Sharks and
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: is quite the gauntlet. Buffalo, Boston, Montreal, Ottawa. So your
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: takeaway from the trip, not just from the Sharks, other teams.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: You saw perhaps some culinary desserts, whatever you got jdpov.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Right the bird, Oh well, yeah you have. I mean, listen,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: it's funny because my POV is more this and you
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: know not to get like, you know, in the weeds
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: in Nate. You know, I don't know if you've you know,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: you've done some TV stuff, but being with the team
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: and being on the road with them, you forget, like
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: how much you took for granted the simple things of
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: like not the simple things, but like the staying in
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: the high in restaurants and the food and the travel
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: and like, you know, you're so used to being in
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: the daily grind of it and you're just like kind
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: of working and you'd get to like the Four Seasons
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: and you wouldn't even be in the room because you'd
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: throw your bags down, you go out and eat at
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: a high in restaurant. You'd come back late night, you'd
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: fall asleep, and you wouldn't even really enjoy it. So
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: like when I was there, you know, we stayed at
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: like the Four Seasons in Boston, and I was kind
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: of in the shower and I was like, oh, I
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: really should go, like, you know, grab a bite to eat.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know what, just fucking enjoy the
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Four Seasons right now. And I was just like, turn
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: that heat up to one hundred and ten and just
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: let it burn. Michelle, let it for I'm just like
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I was like, I love I was using the spot.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I was like using the gym. It just I kind
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: of you forget that you are very lucky and it's
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: a privilege to play in the league, and it is
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: a lot of work and it's a lot of sacrifice,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: but when you get there, there are so many little
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: things that you forget about. That was my POV is
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: enjoying the little things. As for the road trip, you know, Macklin.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Celebrities just generationally say it over and over again. Incredible.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: The Sharks are battling hard for a playoff spot, you know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: and it's a good group of guys out there that
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: are kind of all pulling for each other. But yeah,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Macklin's a stud. And then I one kid I really
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: like pov Is I think is keep an eye on
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: it for him. Is well. Once calling graft who's the
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Quinnipiac on drafted. He's very good player. But on defense,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Sam Dickinson is developing very quickly, and I wouldn't be
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: surprised if we're saying his name a lot more in
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: the next few years.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: All right, great, Gdpova back, all right, still the cup.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk to Andrew Ferrens. Of course, your
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: terrific career in the NHL.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: He's got great stories about Alexei Coblazochara and torturing.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Some Edmonton oilers. That's coming up after this. An NHL inscripted.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Our next guest was drafted in the eighth round twour
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: in eighth o'braw with the Pittsburgh Penguins of the nineteen
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: ninety seven NHL Draft. You go on to play in
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: nine hundred and seven games of the Penguins, Flames, Bruins,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and Oilers, collecting two hundred and twenty five points and
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty three pelia minutes. He won the
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Memorial Cup with the Portland winter Hawks in nineteen ninety
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: eight and most supportedly hoisted the Stanley Cup with the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Bruins in two thousand eleven. Andrew Ferrence welcome to NHL
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and scripted.
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: Well, thank you for the welcome. That's nice.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I like, and gave me the finger of Montreal.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: Honestly, that's all people remember. I might as well, you
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: might as well lead with that, because if I go
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: back to Boston now, that's all anybody wants to talk about.
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: Not that I had any like highlight reel goals and stuff,
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: but that was.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: A highlight that is definitely memorable. We'll get it to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: your career just a second, Andrew. But I know even
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: worked with the NHL lately. What can you tell us
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: about your role there?
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: Man, Well, I right after I retired. I think I
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: was retired for about six months. Before I started with
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: the league. I was always a union guy, you know,
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: I served as a union head. We went through the
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: two lockouts. So between that and some of the environmental
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: sustainability stuff I did when I was playing, I got
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: to know a lot of people in the league that
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: we're working there, and so yeah, towards the end of
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: my career, went back to school when I was up
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: in like when I was playing in Edmonton, and just
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: jumped into a role with the league or Social Impact,
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: Growth and Legislative Affairs department.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: So we do all of that.
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: It's a long title, but Social Impacts obviously all of
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: our all the good stuff. I like to say it's
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: it's everything from pride to hockey fights, cancer to you know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: all the activations are our clubs do throughout the league.
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: The growth is obviously trying to grow the game, a
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: lot of participation stuff, so starting a street hockey league,
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: and uh, I want to I want to get into
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: a roller a lot more so we can we can
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: chat about that, but uh, and then Legislative affairs is
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: the government stuff. I don't do too much of that,
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: but yeah, so a little bit of all of that.
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: I think right now I'm taking on a little bit
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: more with our NHL Green platform and around sustainability, and
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: I don't want to talk about work all day. But
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: that's a bit of a bit of it's a bit
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: of everything well.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: And heart legislative affairs and I go, oh my god,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: can we take a nap? That sounds like too much work?
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Andrew, tell me a little bit. Like all your
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: work and all the titles you have, what's been kind
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: of the most rewarding thing through all this process for you?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Well, it's funny. I mean I I do.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: You know you get invited to podcasts like this or
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: you know, you know, talk to hockey kids. I help
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: out with the high school here on Vancouver Island, and
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: so I teach you know, power skating and you know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: some of the skills stuff.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: And went on.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: But like if I ever get asked to talk like,
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: it's rarely about hockey. It's usually about all the off
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: ice stuff and you know, the opportunities that have opened
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: up during my career and at a community level and
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: getting to know people, like I said, the social impact stuff,
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: like I said at the beginning with the league. We
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: just got back from an NHL Pride game in Vancouver.
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: We've been doing those for three years. That community is
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: really incredible. I want to say, like just because of
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: the generational change that I've seen. Quick story on that. Like,
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: I was a kid, you know, growing up in Shard Park, Alberta,
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: just outside Edmonton, so Alberta boys, and I had a
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: friend that ran away from home, actually got kicked out,
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: but ended up on the streets of Vancouver for a decade.
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: He quit hockey. We're good friends and I actually connected
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: it with him when I was playing.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: In the NHL.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: We're going through play the Canucks and one of our
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: friends kind of reconnected us and he's like, yeah, I've
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: been living on the street for a decade, but I've
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: been also like I just came out. I'm finally out,
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: but like I couldn't come out when I was a
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: kid in Edmonton, Alberta, you know, back in the eighties
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: or early nineties. And I was like, yeah, that's actually
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: a good point. I would have been a complete idiot,
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: you know, had my good friend and teammate came out
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: back in the day, you know, so so uneducated, just
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: you know, kind of clueless right with with how to
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: deal with stuff like that. So that was pretty early
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: in my career when when I crossed paths with him,
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: and kind of from that day, I was like Oh
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: my god. This is was kind of a wake up
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: call for me about you know, not wanting you know,
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: kind of the next generation to be as dumb as
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: I was, you know, as a kid. And so that's
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: been really rewarding, like that side of hockey of seeing
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: you know, it's not perfect for sure, but like the
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: the advancement of just maturity and you know, people being
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: good people. I think, you know, like I said, and
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: not everybody is, but like you guys have seen the
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: rooms change and you've seen the hockey world change. And
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: I know when I came in my first year was
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: ninety nine with the Penguins, and it was an older group,
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: incredible hockey players, but it was like very much old
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: school hockey culture, right, And so yeah, I don't know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: it's been rewarding to me just to see how how
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: much better it's gotten. And I guess better is subjective,
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: but it's better in my eyes.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: It's amazing. Andrew, I mean what you're doing giving back
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: and you know, like being being a good teammate and
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: you were always known as a good teammate and speaking
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: of guys like that, you know, you go back to
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: you know, we crossed pass in Boston, and you know
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: when Zidano came in, there was a presence about it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: And I know how close you guys were over you
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: over your course of your career and you guys want
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: to cup together and play against each other and junior
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: and stuff. What was it about Z that you know
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: right away he had this presence or maybe there was
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: a memory about him where you were just like, this
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: guy's different.
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: Well, yeah, he was. He was totally different, right, I mean,
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: like it's a psychopath. Well like in junior, it was crazy,
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: right because he did. He came to Prince George and
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: so you go up to Prince George. It's a tough
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: enough place to play, and then you got this giant
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: on the other side and it's like, ohly crap. So
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: he's so intimidating, right, just from a pure one perspective.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: But then he stuck around in the off season and
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: we shared the same agent, so he worked out in Edmonton,
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: you know, before he before he went to the NHL,
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: and uh so I got to see him in the
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: gym and you know, doing all that kind of stuff.
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: But just as a person, and you know, you guys
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: know Z and he is he's like a lot of
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: the tough guys in our league, right that are so intimidating.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: They're like the nicest guys and like super soft often
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: like they get out all the you know, stuff on
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: the ice and now and then off the ice are
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: just these incredible people. So he's just one of those guys.
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: And the thing about him, I guess is he's he's
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: tough to kind of describe quickly, and I guess that's
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: probably the ultimate compliment. And you know, he's complicated. He's
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: from a leadership perspective, like in the room. I think
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: one of his best traits was that he really he
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: was a good manager, Like he knew how to manage
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: other people and give ownership to other players and not
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: just try to be the guy.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: You know, he didn't.
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: He was smart enough to know that he couldn't do
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: it all and so bringing guys in, giving guys roles,
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: giving guys responsibilities. He was he was great at running
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: a meeting, you know, talk about boards and some adult
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: stuff that we usually don't do. Like he was running
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: like real meetings like in the locker room, about making
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: sure guys knew, you know, what he needed from them
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: and what he expected and what they were good at
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: and and so his communication skills were excellent, but he
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: was very to the point, you know, the Eastern European
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: and I guess was very straightforward. There's not a whole
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: lot of black and art, not a whole lot of
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: gray area. Was very black and white about about all that.
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: So I think, yeah, that distributed leadership style that he had,
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: and then the communications skills that he had were incredible.
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: But then the person that he was, right, he he
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: was off like getting his real estate license and he
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: was doing his financial planning a certificate and what I
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: don't even know if I'm probably not even saying it right.
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: He's speaking like eight languages and like on an off
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: day would be like, hey, would you do in your
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: off day? I'm like, got later round it was awesome
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: and totally relaxed, and he's like, yeah, I went to
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: an estate sale and I was like putting on stuff
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: and I was up in the north Shore, like you know,
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: I was like, like, what are you getting at an
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: estate sale?
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Like what do you do?
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: He's like, A, It's just interesting, And you know, I say,
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: he was just one of those guys that was really interesting.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: I could always rely him on a on a road trip,
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: you know, to like go for a walk or check
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: out a museum or something like that. He's just always
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: very curious and yeah, like so that yeah, combination of
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: curiosity and incredible drive and work ethic. Like he's just
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: a He's a pretty cool dude. He's just fun to know.
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: He reminds me a lot of Alexei Kovlov, who I
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: played with in Pittsburgh and was one of my favorite
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: players that I ever played with, just because of that. Like,
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: obviously he was super skilled, an incredible hockey player, but
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: that dude would be dressed so quick, like after a
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: game or practice, like he had his clothes like clothes on, showered,
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: like done. He would be like zipping on, where's this
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: guy going? And he was going because he was getting
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: his palot's license at the time, so he was really
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: flying planes. Did ever in helicopters. The best story ever
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: was like because the first years I was gritting sent
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: down to Wilkes Bar. He's like, Andy, I got you,
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: I fly you, No, I need hours, and I'm like, perfect,
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: I don't want to drive across Pennsylvania And so Alexi
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: covileve it would fly me to the miners to Wilkes
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: Bar in this stupid little plane that's like a four seater,
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: but he needed his hours.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: How many times did he do it?
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: A couple?
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: All that.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Fly to the minor.
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: It just sick guys like that, you know, like there's
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: pretty cool dudes that like have more going on, you know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: other than just playing hockey. And that's that's also something
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: that I think I'm proud of, is I think like
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: I tried to do a lot more outside of the
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: game and tried to instill that in younger, younger guys,
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: and and not from like a hey, get ready for
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: life after hockey. It's going to end like that kind
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: of fear based thing, but more from like, no, trust me,
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: it's going to help you in hockey because you got
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: more stuff going on in your life and like your
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: emotional roller coaster of like oh my god, we're winning,
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: we're losing, I'm not scoring. I am scoring, Like you know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: guys that only had hockey and only had friends in
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: hockey and only cared about hockey, like I know this
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: is hockey podcast, but still.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Like you know, it's good.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: No, it's good for guy.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: It's a balance, right, It's what you will make you
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: a better player.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's what you do, not who you are. And
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: you see guys that end up having kids that are like, wow,
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: I did, I didn't. I found another level to my game,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: and it's like because your mind's detached from the game totally.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: You mentioned the Penguins team Andrew and Alexei Kovalev under
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: yvonn Helenka Hire's the head coach.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I wuldn't know how good his English was.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: You also at least to half a dozen check players,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: including their start yard mar Yoger.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: What was you like playing with the yohugar dude?
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: That's that whole Pittsburgh era was insane. I was like,
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: I was a Pittsburgh fan because Paul Coffee got traded
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: there from Edmonton. So like I was grew up in
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: Edmonton obviously an Oilers fan, and then Paul Coffee fan
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: because my dad's like, black guy can skate better than anybody,
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: so watch him. And then yeah, I became a Pittsburgh fan.
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: They were obviously easy to cheer four with those teams,
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: so like, I gotta look, I gotta look at the
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: year of the picture. But I was asking and I
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: got h Pittsburgh Penguin's jersey for Christmas, like as a kid,
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: like coming down so excited, you know, Christmas morning. And
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: then yeah, within a few years like lemuse my owner
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: slash teammate the Yauger's and there Covid lev Straka like
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: it was crazy, and then yeah, like the Helenka days.
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: I remember me and Ian Moran looking at each other
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: across the room and we're like, we are the only
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: two English speaking guys in this whole room. There's two,
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: like two that's it. Was it, that was it, And
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: and Ivan he Linka was our head coach. We went
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: to the conference finals. We lost the jersey because you
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: can only get fifteen shots on birder at the time,
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: which was a little difficult, and but we went far.
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: We had zero system, like no system. We had lines
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: of five, right, so you always played with the same
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: five guys, so we knew each other well, which I loved.
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: I thought that system was really cool. But I remember
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: like running the guys that we play against, they're like, yeah,
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: we tried to do video on you and we just
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: stopped because like this there's no I'm like, yeah, it's
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: pretty accurate. Like we just kind of played shinny and
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: and but we were so good, right and then Ivan
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: Linka like our coach, our head coach in NHL didn't
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: speak English like zero like or actually I sent you'ld
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: come in and go let's go guys and then walk out.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: The media any of that stuff.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: No, nothing, there's no media back then.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: So the assistants were busy.
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, but you just wrote the lines like
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: we didn't like we we didn't really have a system.
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: We ran practice like you do the drills.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: You just kind of like do it.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: But like.
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: It was let's go boys. That was our system.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go boy. I mean, you never hear the
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: five guy set up lines like you know, the group
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: of five going out anymore.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: It's it's impressive because you played in different eras and
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: being a smaller defenseman the way you played, like you know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: you go back to your Calgary days pre pre full
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: lockout and then post and you know you were a
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: guy that's hard to play against. And going back to Calgary,
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: you know, you guys are in the finals. You know,
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: game goes all the way to Game seven playing against Tampa.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: You know, talk about that series and what you know,
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: what you learned and maybe.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Did it go in or not?
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: You know there's always that too that's talk about. But
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: you know maybe something you took from that that helped
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: you in twenty eleven with Boston.
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: Oh well, I mean all of it helps, that's for sure.
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: I mean whether it went in or not, who knows,
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: Like it's like it actually it went in. The only
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: thing that doesn't bother me is because I won now,
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: like because we won with Boston. But like man, I was,
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: I was mad about that and not just about the goal,
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: just about losing, like and it's not really about like
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: whether win in or not. It's just like when you
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: lose a cup, like like it sits with you for
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: until you win I guess, or if you don't, probably forever.
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: But calgarys were awesome. I think that Darryl Setter was
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: and most guys I think that play for him will
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: tell you like he was hard to play for, but
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: like probably the best thing that can happen for your career,
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: especially when you're young, because he holds you accountable, like
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: every shift, like your very first shift of the game
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: if it's not dynamite, like you're sitting on the bench
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: and so you're ready for every game. It would be
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: game forty seven in the middle of the season, and
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: he would come into the room like it was game seven,
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: and it was great. It was really really good to like,
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: you know, go from something in Pittsburgh that was a
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: little bit more loose, you know, and you're just playing
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: to something that was like strict and hard and like
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: demanding of like you need to be a professional to
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: stay in this league. Yeah, so probably the length of
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: my career was probably due to him and just the
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: accountability that he demanded. That team was great. You know,
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: we're kind of underdogs. I'm glad we had Mika kippersof
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: who probably got us to the finals. You know, he
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: kept us in games that we had no business being in.
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: But it was just a tough ass team that was
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: willing to kind of do anything, you know, and fight
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: and go to war for each other. And that culture
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: of like I guess all in kind of together is
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: what you know, we tried to create in Boston, right
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: of like kind of no questions asked, Like we're going
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: to war every night, you know, middle of the season
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: game is just as important as the playoff run. You know,
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: if there's a fight, we're all in it kind of thing.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: And then ultimately I think like the base, the base
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: foundation of what we're trying to build in Boston was
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: like we got to send these people home proud, Like
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: you know, the garden was half full, even not half,
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: but you know, like when I got traded there, like
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: they had missed the playoffs and there was empty seats
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: all over the place, right all the other teams were win.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: There's no bruin stuff around you know, town like jerseys
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: and hats and stuff like that, and like that like stings.
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: You know, you're like shit, like this is the original six,
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: Like you know, it's almost embarrassing, you know, And ultimately,
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: like you got to look in the mirror and you
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: can either complain about it or whine about it or
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: do something about it. And I think we had a
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: group of people in Boston it's like, oh no, we're
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: gonna do something about it, especially when you have char
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: and stuff like that. So I think that mantra of
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: like let's make these people proud, you know, even if
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: we don't make the playoffs. But like if we're playing
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: the Montreal Canadians tonight, like if they beat us, like
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: these fans are getting a show like there's gonna be
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: fights or something like something's happening, right, and so win
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: or lose, like at least they're walking out of here
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: like yeah, that's that's Bruin's hockey. And so I think
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: having that, you know, really kind of strong identity and
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: not like some stupid motto that goes on a shirt
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: or on a billboard up in the dressing room but
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: nobody really cares about. And it's kind of like coach driven,
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: but the players don't really create it. Like the stuff
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: in Boston was like it meant something and the players
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: created it, and it was like, yeah, I guess people
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: wrap their arms around the culture, right, because like I said,
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: you can come up with some some inspirational saying and
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: it might as well be one of those like posters
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: with believe like an eagle flying on it with like
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: some dumb quote under that nobody reads, right, And that's
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: why I think some that's the difference between like a
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: good locker room and ones that are just kind of like, hey,
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: I'm here, I'm here to play and you know, here
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: for myself whatever it is. But yeah, that group was
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: was in the battle for each other and really believed
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: in what we were building.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you were trade of that Bruins team just a
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: few months after they sign charm Marks of Arden. As
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: you said, you were able to turn things around after
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the team had been disillusioned. Your last NHL season, Oilers
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: welcomed Connor McDavid. How long did it take you to
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: realize this kid was the real deal?
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: Well, we're hurt at the same well, I mean right away,
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: first first ice session, but he he was injured.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I was injured, and I.
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: Remember just like some of those like on ice sessions,
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: and I mean the kid was so fast right Like
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: you'd go to defend him and he'd be thirty feet
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: away from you in like a heartbeat, and I'm like,
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: oh my god, I'm so old.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Wait you wait, you had to do rehab skates with
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: co Yeah, it's terrible. Oh my god, I jump off
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: the bridge.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: It was terrible.
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: So it was like pretty yeah, I was like, all right,
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: this is it so but but I mean yeah, I
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: mean the kid was so dialed right like he was.
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: I mean he still is, like I think, I don't know,
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: it's not too hard to tell how much he cares
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: about hockey and how seriously he takes it. So yeah,
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: I think that he Uh, I still can't figure out exactly,
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: you know, what he does like that makes him the
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: way he is, He's so fast and he just the
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: way his hands work. I'm like, I swear this guy's
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: it's got to be his brain, like must work at
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: a different speed than mine. That's got to be it
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: because it because yeah, like I don't know how how
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: you like how you study him and make sense of
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: just how much better he was than everybody else when
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: he when he came in.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Well, I gotta make sense of something. My last question is,
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: you know I kind of read something about you kidnapping
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Edmonton's some prospects before the rookie camp. I don't know
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: if that's a best I got to hear that story,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: and can you just take us through it?
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah? That was fun?
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: That was actually good. So part of the culture thing,
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: right is like talk about culture like Edmonton needed that,
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: like all right, like we you need something to like
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: rally around and like who are we like what are
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: we doing here? Like this is like a storied franchise,
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: So we're going through I was a captain at the
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: time and coach coach during the summer. You know, they
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: have like the rookie camps now in the middle of
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: the summer. So I never had that playing but but
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: obviously as a veteran, they give me a call the
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: like we're having this rookie camp. It's out in Jasper,
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: you know, out in the mountains and Alberta. You know,
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: here's our schedule. We'd love for you to, you know,
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: your captain, you come talk to the guys. And I
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: was like, wow, that sounds thrilling, like you know, like
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: go and talk at like the keg or something, you know,
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: like over staate, like like I don't know, like I
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: And I told him, I'm like, look like I don't know, like,
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: but I can understand myself as a rookie would just
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: be like kind of roll in my eyes, like listen
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: to this old guy talk. And also it's just not
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: something that I really wanted to do. And so I said, like,
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: I'm more than happy to do something, but like, will
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: you give me some freedom to like have a little
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: fun with it, like and and I think I could
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: give you guys some insight, you know, I have ideas
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: about like what makes a good player, what doesn't the
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: guys I've seen, you know, go on to have good careers,
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: like things that stand.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Out like this and that.
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: It was like, let me be part of the process,
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: Like this is a prospect camp. You guys are trying
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: to identify like your next group of leaders. You're you know,
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: the guys that are going to make this team and
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: build you're gonna build around. And it was a good group, right,
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: Like we had dry sitle there and Nurse and that
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: whole crop of guys. And so I so like, yeah, great,
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: you know, like go plan something. We'll give you the
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: night and you can do whatever you want. So I
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: called up my army ranger buddy from Boston, Lucas Uh,
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: Lucas Carr, who's a great friend, and and Uh and
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: then a couple of guys from the regiment up in Edmonton.
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: So I had these three military guys and I was like,
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: here's what I want you guys to do. I want
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: to like, we want to build up a night where
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: we take these guys out and like give them like
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: kind of a view into your world and give them
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: a little perspective on like what hard work is, you know,
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: what kind of toughness is, YadA YadA, And they're like great,
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: And so then over the course of like probably a month,
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: like we're scheming and coming up with this whole plan,
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: and and essentially what it boiled down to was us
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: showing up in like a couple of vans and like
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: these these guys are throwing like these homemade like like
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: water bombs. They like make water bottles and they put
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: like the heat packs in them, and like they blow up.
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: So it's kind of like shock and awe, like at
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: their hotel picking up these rookies and these like army
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: guys like grabbing them throw them in the van, like
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: let's go, let's go, let's go. And the guys are like, well,
• 46:09
  Speaker 7: what are we doing? I thought we're going to the keg.
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: And anyways, like we kind of took them out to
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: this field in the mountains. It's beautiful, like by a river,
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: and then like the guys took them through all these
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: kind of like drills of practices. All right, you're on
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: this team. You're on this team, Like we need to evac,
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: we need to do some whatever they call it. I
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: don't know military terms, but they did like a couple
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: hours of these like drills and practices and like let's
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: go and YadA YadA and then we ended the night
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: with like around a campfire eating like MREs. Have you
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: ever eaten an mre? Like, oh yeah, like an army meal.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: They're tear so bad. And then we all slept in
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: sleeping bags under the stars like no, no tense nothing.
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: So anyways, that's like what we did. But it was
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: like the context of like all the stuff in between, right, so,
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: as we're eating the MREs, it was like chicken in Tabasco.
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: The guys are telling us about like our my my
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: buddy Lucas was taking us about like being stuck in
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: Afghanistan for two months on the side of a mountain
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: with his sniper team and all they had for like
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: the entire time was chicken and Tabasco sauce every single meal,
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: like for two months. And so I was like, guys,
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: like listen up, Like I guarantee you you'll be so
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: excited to be in the NHL and then you'll find
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: you know, at some point you'll be complaining about the
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: salmon being too dry at the four seasons. Yeah, and
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: f you you know, if you ever get to that point,
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: you know, like so never lose perspective. Yeah yeah. So
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: I was like on my soapbox around that kind of
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: stuff of just like it's such a privilege to play
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: in this league. But the other side of it was
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: I wanted the guys to identify, you know, the guys
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: that like kind of leaned into the whole practice and
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: like of doing the stuff and like who who kind
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: of rose to the top and was like, Yeah, let's go,
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: let's go Kwon guys and rally the troops for something
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: admittedly so dumb to do during the rookie camp, but
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: just throw people curveballs, right, because like what is the league?
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: Like you're constantly getting throwing curveballs and like adjusting and
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: like how do you deal with just like stuff like
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: and and not things not going your way? And so
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: I had the guys identify like, hey, this guy stood out,
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: This guy stood out. This guy all he did was
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: bitch and moan the whole time, YadA, YadA, And so
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: like you start identifying like characters and personalities of like
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: who's the whiners, you know, who's complaining the whole time,
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: who's just like going through the motions, and then who's like, yeah,
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: let's go, sweet, let's go, and like and they were
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: like they picked out back then it was like, man,
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: this guy dry Settle like incredible and like Nurse was awesome,
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: And so it's pretty neat to see like how the
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: Army dudes it, you know, like they know hockey, but
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: it's not like they're scouts or anything like that. And
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: they were picking off like the guys that who eventually
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: have turned out like obviously great careers. But I just
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: thought it was like an interesting insight like into because
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: you know, you guys played long enough, like you see
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: who does make it right? And of course like you
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: have to be good, but it's more like you know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: the mental stuff and like the guys that get it
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: and the guys that are like the first in line
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: for practice and like kind of the nerds right, like
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: the ones who are like trying harder than like you know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: when you do like conditioning skates, it's like who's trying
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: and who's like who's slotown? You're making us look bad,
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: Like that's the dude that has like a two year
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: career maybe if he even makes it right. So like
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: I was trying to instill those things and the guys
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: are like I would love nothing more than for you
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: guys to all have like long careers but like skill
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: will get you a couple of years, and like the attitude,
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: like the way you approach the game in life, like
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: that's what will get you the fifteen year career, right,
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: and and so like yeah, I think it's like a
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: little bit of that like that that I love that
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: side of the game and that side of like development,
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: and like yeah, it beats like like I said, giving
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: like a chit chat over dinner, you know.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, like terrific career, obviously a great storyteller
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: and doing a great step in the league.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Thanks so much for this man. We really appreciate.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: This was awesome.
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: It was good to see you again.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, good stuff there from Andrew Ferrence.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: We'll get to send a file and sixty in just
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: a second. But the American era of hockey dominance continues.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Tosa beating can on the final clam Paralympic gold for
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: the fifth straight time also marks the first time that
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: one country has swept gold and Olympic men and women's
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: hockey and the Paralympics.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: It's America's game, and that's why Nate Thompson is here
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: to boast. Go ahead, mate, stage is yours, America. You
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: stolen our game. You stole our women. Go ahead, congratulations.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know about that, but I'm not I'm not
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: here to boast, but I mean, triple gold for the
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: United States is a big deal, and it's a big
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: deal for hockey. I think it's great, you know, at
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: the end of the day, because we're trying to grow
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: the game, and you know, you look in here. You know,
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: I've heard stuff about you know, them being there being
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: over one hundred thousand sign ups in USA hockey after
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: the Olympics and in different places all over the US
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: that you wouldn't expect hockey to be in.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: So this is only a positive, even if we swept
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: the whole thing. It's it's uh, it's it's nice to
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: see all.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: Listen. Venezuela's got baseball, so you got you got their president,
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: but we shr game all time. J uh.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: The other part of it is for Canada j D.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: The response to this new era of US hockey dominance
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: is that Doug Armstrong is out Saint Louis Blues GM
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: and held a position with Hockey Canada. I didn't wize
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: you've been this long. Twenty sixteen World Cup. More moves
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: coming for team Canada. Right, this is we're gonna move
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: this up around now.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard some people talking would be interesting about
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: if they bring in a non NHL GM to kind
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: of run it full time so there's no bias on players.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: But again, when you lose by one goal in a
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: three on three in a skills competition and men's and women's, yeah,
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: you know, Paralympic I think it was more of a
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: runaway where they they dusted them up at the Paralympic
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: Games in the seeded rivalry. But I just think it'd
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: be nice to see, Hey, Doug Armstrong has done a
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: great job. But I just think it's you know, it's
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: time i'd like to see. Maybe you're seeing a lot
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: more Chris Pronger around you. You've been talking with him
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: at Amazon. You're starting to see him talk about his
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: book a little bit a lot and about his he's
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: on Amazon. He's vying for a GM job, and that
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: could be one that he goes in as a kind
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: of a friend mentor not mentor, but mentee of Doug Armstrong.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: I just thought was.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Interesting to turn a phrase that the Paralympic team was
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: a real runaway. But it's one way of putting it. Yes,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I stepped into that one. But yes, prongs is definitely
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: excited about his book. I already pre ordered it, very
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: excited about that. It's gonna be go on to April fourteenth,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and he's as you know j D and Nate. One
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: thing about Chris Pronger is you're aware when he's there.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Like everything about him is big. He's a big guy.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: He's got big opinion, he's got a big laugh, he's outspoken.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: He'll let you know if he thinks that you're wrong,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: like he's If you want a guy who's taken no guf,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: that's Chris Pronger. So I am with you that he's
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: absolutely a guy that is again a massive presence within
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: hockey Canada.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: He was a Hall of Fame defenseman. He's clearly eager
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: to do things. He's working with the Amazon, he's doing
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: some stuff.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: With Oh, he's getting he's yeah, he's out here. He's
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: getting a gym job in the next two years.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's fascinating. You're right, with money in the
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: cap and stuff. He goes deep in the weeds and
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: that stuff.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: So I'm with you, all right.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Newfoundland Junior Hockey Brawl that's right. The Saint John's Junior
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Hockey League game on March seventh, the Saint John's Junior
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Caps and Southern Shore Junior Breakers three brawls and five
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two pellion minutes game three of a
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: quarterfinals series between the teams.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: The game was called in the third period of all.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Four goalies were tossed for fighting, twelve players and coaches,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: and the Breakers received suspension. Six Caps players got susceed
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: three the four goalies among those suspended. JAD, is there
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: a craziest brawl you've been involved in? My favorite part
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: of this By the way, the game was called because
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: all the goalies were gone.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: We can't play. Nobody else can play goalie.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: That's hilarious for me. Ah, I don't know. In Saint
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: John's new foldly, you never know what can happen on
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: the rock there.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: That's right. That's right. That's where I met JD for
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: the first time.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Island, we have first hand knowledge there. You could
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: lose your mind there, that's for sure. About a day
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: and a half so Island fever. Ah, biggest brawl I had.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: I was in junior with Victoriaville Tigers and we were
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: in shawingy Yan playing rack Nice and there was just
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: that well it first started, I think when our coach
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: was like all mad at us that he that you know,
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: we weren't playing good enough. So we ended up going
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: out on the ice without him and he like didn't
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: even come on the bench, and then we ended up
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: having a brawl. It was a big five. It was
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: a big five on five brawl after five and five brawl,
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: just like the old junior days, and it's just it's
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: just one of those things that happens a little bit
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: of testosteroe and it's kind of fun. Everybody gets into
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: it and all the guys are cheering in the locker
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: room after because it's just if you you feel bad
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: if you're the one that doesn't fight. Nate.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I have one, and that's from my very ever
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: first WHL junior game and I was playing for Seattle
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: against Portland and there was two line brawls my first game,
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: first ever game, and two line brawls and there's like
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: four guys left in our bench. I ended up having
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: I think I was still sixteen at the time. I
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: had two goals that game, my first game, but definitely
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: didn't fight in my first game, which is I mean,
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: you look back on it now and you're like, how
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: did you not end up fighting that game?
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Mate? But yeah, it was.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: You're saving it for later.
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: I was.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I was still a skilled guy at that point, so
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: I wasn't. Wasn't. It didn't my other phase yet.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't. They didn't beat all your hopes and
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: dreams out of it. Not yet here, hang on.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: From fighting to flowers.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: We gonna get some flowers to Andre Copena on the
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: road this week in the final month of his final
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: NHL season, Islanders, Devils and Rangers players all stayed on
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: the ice after.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: The games to shake hands with the King's captain.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: His two goals started I guess New Jersey gave him
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: one thousand, three hundred and eight points, passing Marcel Dion
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: for the franchise record, with John had held for more.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Than forty five years.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: He also owns the franchise mark for games assists, game
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: winning goals. Captain Cope Nate unbelievable run with the.
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: Kings so well deserved exactly. Let's get some clicks for him,
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: because yeah, he is just an all time human, great person.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: He deserved all the accolades and guys shaking his hands
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: after games. And you know, there's been so many great players,
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: obviously Gretzky and Curry and all these guys that have
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: played for the Kings, but I don't think that there
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: is he. He is the best King for me all time.
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: He is the number one King, and he's shown it
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: on the ice, off the ice throughout his whole career,
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: winning cups, Selkies. I mean, just the way he plays, consistency, everything.
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, We've talked about on j Copitar a lot,
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: but he's just he deserves it. He deserves all the
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: accolades because of not just the player is, but the
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: person he is and the way he presents himself more
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: than gretz I love that. Fuck you Gritz, I like it.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Well, that's that's Nate's and your flowers. I got to
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: give a quick flowers to Cold Coffield before you punch
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: off Cold Coffield that game winning goal yesterday's fortieth. But
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: I read a crazy stat goals when the game is
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: tied in the NHL icles at fifteen, Gunther's at seventeen,
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: cole coff Is at twenty four. He is clutch Field,
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: if that makes sense, I didn't. I don't think that
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: were clutch Coffield. There you go, here's my fires clutch Field.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: That doesn't really work.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Give flowers Clotchfield, all right, before Nate has to hop
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: in a car here via Pegasus A quick centiphile and
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: sixty in the Oscars recap, I thought con O'Brian was fantastic.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe some predictable jokes in the monolog but Ai and
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Ted sarandos and Netflix, but a great shot. Shall may
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: knew that was coming two minutes in Ballet and the Opera, Timmy,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: it was coming. Look great in the suit Kyleie General
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: looked fantast so even if he doesn't win the Oscar,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: he's still winning it, like not.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: His best joke also was about British people.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: He'sid a rare example where British no British actress or
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: actresses nominated, but the Brits in their.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Cutry they arrest their pedophiles. Excellent. Linemack code him there.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Later on had a very good video in which he
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: talked about how now they're trying to make movies because
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: everyone just watched it on their phone. So if you
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: watch The Godfather Part two, it would be oh, bit
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: one one because they're just trying to shorten everything, making
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: long be sure. And then a great Scorsese cameo tell
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: them Marty sent It was great as far as the
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: winners themselves. I went twenty to twenty four on my picks,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: which is my second best ever. I once was twenty one.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: The good news is I did well. The bad news
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: is JD. That means it was chocked. There wasn't many surprises.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Paul Thomas Anderson wins as I expected for Director and picture.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Tal was impressed. I had Michael B.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Jordan winning for actor, but not a ton of surprises overall.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: From the ceremony, the one big talk was this the
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: obits because we lost a lot of people, so certain
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: people got a little more love. Rob Ryer had Billy
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Crystal come out to a wonderful presentation to him. Barbara Streisen,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: who did one movie with Robert Redford, came out there
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: and sang a little bit. Jane Fonda calling out Babs
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: because you're kidding like you're the person for sitting ready
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: to one movie the guy, and I was upset. Robert
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: deavall of my favorite actors. Daval got ten seconds. You
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: should have had Billy Bob Thornon out there. Billy Bob
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: could have talked about Robert Deaval for ten minutes, could
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: have talked about Secondhand Lions, Nate's favorite of all movie.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: Either way, the Oscars a successful event. Ratings were up.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: People seem happy.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: JD.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: I know you're upset about one thing though.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Sinners is strong showing years, so now people will look
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: back and go Sinners sixteen nominations Best Original Screenplay, Best Actor,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: and Jason Newris is gonna go eh.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Not for me.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: I just think, oh man, yeah, this will give me
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: in trouble. So I'm not going into this one this
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: much because more with my theories. But yeah, I listen,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: I liked it. I watched it again too, just to
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: really be like, okay, okay, I went back and I
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: looked at it and again. If you were to put
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: Michael B. Jordan his two characters next to each other,
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: and if you couldn't see the screen, you would not
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: be able to pick them apart other than a gold
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: a gold tooth difference or the difference in suits, so
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: to tell me. And I know he's playing twins, but
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: there's he's supposed to have personality, differences in both he
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: did not show enough of that for me. And I
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: just have to say, like the fact that Leonardo DiCaprio,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: like he was incredible as a drugged out old conspiracy
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: theorist for the French seventy five people at Revolution. He
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: was so good, and I and somebody somebody wrote an
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: article being like his level is always so high that
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: I feel like everything's become comfortable with it. Ye were
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: like in a world of like, I believe like he
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: should be at close to Daniel de Lewis numbers nice,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: like I think he should be at two or three
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: tickling three. So I don't know. I just think he was.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: And then you look at Timothy Shallomey. I just think
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: Timothy shallome Marty supreme. He was fantastic in that movie,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: Carry the movie.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: It is shocking to think tell when in terms of
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: actors with three oscars, Sean Penn now joins that group.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Sean Penn was not there. I was just convincing, just
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: wanted to smoke and smoke. I'm not gonna do I'm
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: just gonna have a couple of Marlboroughs outside. You can vape,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: you can take us in, Shawn, unless I can smoke.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not going but the actual story apparently he was
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  Speaker 1: in Ukraine, couldn't make the ceremony.
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  Speaker 3: Win's his third Oscar rarefied air now.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of guys with three oscars, Jack Nicholson's won
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  Speaker 1: three oscars, two for lead one supporting. Sean Penn's now
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  Speaker 1: won three, two for lead one supporting, but to j
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  Speaker 1: d's point, only got to win three Best Actor awards.
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  Speaker 3: D d O Daniel de lewis the king.
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  Speaker 4: He's the king, but it's disgusting.
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  Speaker 3: The Pacina only has one Oscar. Jenner only has two oscars.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I have a question for you though, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: go ahead. Do you like black girls?
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  Speaker 3: That's clock Thanks to.
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  Speaker 1: Nate Thompson, Thanks for j D and Talis always and
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