Latest / Johnny's World / Episode 52-Dicenzo Miller

Transcript

Episode 52-Dicenzo Miller · Johnny's World

0:02
SPEAKER_00: Coming to you live from the Johnny Packer Eyewear Studios in fabulous Dark Vegas, Mississippi, please welcome our co-host, the best iDoc this side of the Mississippi, BW.
0:18
SPEAKER_00: And now, welcome a true hero, a CF Warrior, whose favorite motto in life is just keep living.
0:27
SPEAKER_00: Here's Johnny.
0:41
SPEAKER_03: All right, everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Johnny's World Podcast.
0:46
SPEAKER_03: This is Egg Bowl Week.
0:48
SPEAKER_03: In fact, it's Egg Bowl Eve as we record this podcast.
0:52
SPEAKER_03: How are we doing today, Johnny?
0:54
SPEAKER_02: It was the night before the egg bowl and all through the house.
0:58
SPEAKER_02: Not a creature was stirring, not even Lane Kiffin.
1:01
SPEAKER_02: Heading on the plains, as we may see.
1:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what's gonna happen, but you and me will find out.
1:10
SPEAKER_03: I hope I hope that story's right, Johnny.
1:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we'll we'll see.
1:15
SPEAKER_02: Uh egg bowl eve, it's exciting.
1:18
SPEAKER_02: Uh can't wait.
1:19
SPEAKER_02: Like a kid on Christmas, you know.
1:22
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:22
SPEAKER_03: I've I've been warming myself up.
1:24
SPEAKER_03: I was watching some footage from the 2019 egg bowl the other day.
1:29
SPEAKER_03: And uh it gets me pretty excited.
1:32
SPEAKER_03: Hope hope we have another another victory like that.
1:35
SPEAKER_03: And uh send send lane packing and be a good night for me.
1:41
SPEAKER_02: It'll be like I hope it'll be like the 98 egg bowl for all those listening.
1:46
SPEAKER_02: You know, the 98 egg bowl was in Oxford on Thanksgiving night, and we whooped them and won the SEC West.
1:53
SPEAKER_02: And their coach, uh Tommy Tupperville, was signing off to go to Auburn the next day.
1:59
SPEAKER_02: Hey, hey, it could be a little deja vu right there.
2:02
SPEAKER_02: I remember Tommy Tupperville said he wasn't leaving Oxford.
2:05
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, he'll have to pull me out in a pine pine box, and lo and behold, the next day he was into Auburn.
2:10
SPEAKER_02: So might be uh similar situation situation.
2:13
SPEAKER_02: Hopefully, we can win the game like we did then.
2:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:17
SPEAKER_03: So what do you think?
2:18
SPEAKER_03: I mean, do you think Lane's gone?
2:20
SPEAKER_03: What's your gut feeling on this?
2:22
SPEAKER_03: I think he's gone.
2:23
SPEAKER_02: Uh, the reason why I say that is because uh not one time he could have ended it anytime and said, Hey, I'm I'm I'm I'm staying here.
2:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, he's not one time said that he is uh he's staying, he's never said that.
2:36
SPEAKER_02: He hasn't signed a contract for all we know, it all miss an extension.
2:40
SPEAKER_02: Um, so and he loves to he loves this attention, he loves to troll people, and and you know, he's just sitting back there smiling, laughing about all this going on.
2:49
SPEAKER_02: So um, if he does stay, there can be a lot of he's gonna be a hated man in Oxford for screwing around with him, and I think it's gonna affect the the players and the game, they don't know what's going on.
2:59
SPEAKER_02: So, I mean this kind of happened with 2017 when when Mullen was at state, everyone kind of knew he was uh looking out the door.
3:07
SPEAKER_02: Everybody thought he was going to Tennessee and ended up going to Florida, but um I don't know.
3:12
SPEAKER_02: This is this is pretty crazy.
3:14
SPEAKER_02: I think he's gone though.
3:14
SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
3:16
SPEAKER_03: Well, I I like to I would like to think that you're right.
3:21
SPEAKER_03: And I've been listening to oh heydad and uh Robbie Falk, they they all seem to think the same thing, and um you know they kind of said he he didn't uh he did not sign the contract at Ole Miss yet.
3:35
SPEAKER_03: They've offered him a contract.
3:36
SPEAKER_03: Why hadn't he signed the contract?
3:39
SPEAKER_03: But I I feel like it's been so long since we've seen the the Lane Kifton that you know screwed over Tennessee and all of that stuff.
3:50
SPEAKER_03: And you know I do think he's changed, he's older, he's probably more mature, and I'd like to think he learned some lessons from from some of that stuff, and I wouldn't be surprised if he stays.
4:05
SPEAKER_03: Um, I don't want him to stay, but I wouldn't be surprised if he does.
4:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, uh, like you said, it he either two things.
4:14
SPEAKER_02: He's either learned the lesson and has mature, like you just said, or he just doesn't care.
4:19
SPEAKER_02: And that's just his thing.
4:20
SPEAKER_02: Like he's gonna go wherever he wants to go.
4:22
SPEAKER_02: He doesn't care how it affects the fan base or whatever, like he did with Tennessee.
4:26
SPEAKER_02: So I guess we're gonna see his true colors, uh, regardless of what happens.
4:30
SPEAKER_02: So um I don't I don't know.
4:33
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be it's gonna be definitely interesting to see uh see how what takes place over the next next couple days with him.
4:39
SPEAKER_02: But I know he's loving attention.
4:41
SPEAKER_02: I saw where his son tweeted out to Will Rogers about wanting his towel.
4:45
SPEAKER_02: Thought that was kind of weird.
4:46
SPEAKER_02: And then Lane.
4:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was weird.
4:48
SPEAKER_03: I saw that.
4:48
SPEAKER_02: And then Lane said Knox is talking with the enemy, must be something with the West Coast kids.
4:54
SPEAKER_02: I have no idea, man.
4:55
SPEAKER_02: He's a master of trolling people on Twitter and loves all this stuff.
4:58
SPEAKER_02: So I know he's getting a big kick out of all this stuff, what's going on?
5:02
SPEAKER_02: But uh let me tell you this to all the old miss people I've been seeing today on some message board saying he just needs to go, you know.
5:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh let him go to Auburn.
5:11
SPEAKER_02: We don't care about these are the same people who were saying months ago, Lane's the best coach we've ever had.
5:18
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we want him to stay forever.
5:20
SPEAKER_02: And now they're pushing out the door, like saying, I don't care if he leaves, blah blah blah.
5:23
SPEAKER_02: You should care.
5:24
SPEAKER_02: Dude, is like turn your program around, he's awesome.
5:27
SPEAKER_02: Um, he's like the best thing that y'all have had in a long time.
5:30
SPEAKER_02: You shouldn't want him to go.
5:31
SPEAKER_02: Like, just because you get your feelings hurt and push them out the door and saying that, all that, man, you should do everything in your power to get him to stay and not have that attitude of saying, Oh, let him go, let him go.
5:40
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
5:42
SPEAKER_02: I kind of I kind of find that pretty hypocritical of what I've been reading today.
5:47
SPEAKER_02: Some fans have been saying about him, but I don't know.
5:49
SPEAKER_02: We'll we'll see what happens.
5:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're right.
5:51
SPEAKER_03: I've I've been hearing the same thing.
5:53
SPEAKER_03: A couple oldness fans I talked to this week have been the exact same way.
5:56
SPEAKER_03: They it's like they're they're they're already mad about it, they're they're they're like trying to prepare themselves and they're they're just pushing them out the door.
6:04
SPEAKER_02: So man, guys have done everything for the program, done everything, building you back up, getting national attention, coming your way, won 10 games, and possibly could have chance to do 10 again.
6:15
SPEAKER_02: So, like yeah, you're gonna go, oh let him go, let him go.
6:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, what the heck, man?
6:20
SPEAKER_02: Oh so no, but hey, at least they they get the feeling now.
6:23
SPEAKER_02: What state fans had for years with Dan Mullen every year.
6:26
SPEAKER_02: Is he leaving for Greener Pastures?
6:28
SPEAKER_02: Is he going there?
6:29
SPEAKER_02: Penn State, is he going to Miami?
6:30
SPEAKER_02: Is he going to Tennessee?
6:31
SPEAKER_02: Going to Florida.
6:32
SPEAKER_02: Every year is another team.
6:34
SPEAKER_02: And and all Miss fans were always throwing it at a state fans saying, Mullen's gone, he's leaving so and so.
6:39
SPEAKER_02: And now they're getting the exact same dose of uh stuff that they served out to us with with their coach.
6:46
SPEAKER_02: Hey, that's what you get when you have a good football coach.
6:48
SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, state and all miss, as much as we all love them, they're just stepping stone schools, honestly.
6:55
SPEAKER_02: They're not national programs, will be national programs.
6:58
SPEAKER_02: And for a coach, it's just the they want to get up to the big time programs, they have to use it as a stepping stool.
7:04
SPEAKER_02: And that's what they've these big time coaches uh are are gonna do.
7:07
SPEAKER_02: That's just the um you got a better chance of winning at Auburn or more money at Auburn.
7:12
SPEAKER_02: They've won national championships at Auburn.
7:13
SPEAKER_02: So I mean, I could see why he would want to go there, but um I feel like if he's going though, he needs to like tell the players and tell everyone, you know.
7:22
SPEAKER_02: I saw some people like say he shouldn't even coach the egg bowl if he's going to Auburn.
7:27
SPEAKER_02: This is crazy.
7:30
SPEAKER_02: Man, I don't know, it's gonna be interesting.
7:32
SPEAKER_02: I wish we'd see a fight, man.
7:33
SPEAKER_02: I would I would love to see a fight on the field like we saw in 18, but sounds like this is more Twitter fight stuff between kids.
7:40
SPEAKER_02: But uh, I'd like to see a brawl.
7:42
SPEAKER_02: Why not?
7:42
SPEAKER_03: You know, why not?
7:46
SPEAKER_03: Well, uh, shift gears a little bit, uh, because I know we've got an interview that we want to get to in a little while.
7:52
SPEAKER_03: Uh before we make our predictions tonight, we've got Jan Sanity is continuing on, had a huge victory over Marquette the other night.
8:01
SPEAKER_03: Man, that game is crazy.
8:02
SPEAKER_03: Um, I thought we were gonna blow it there for a minute, but we kept hanging on, did what we had to do, got got the win.
8:10
SPEAKER_03: So got the Utah Utes tonight.
8:12
SPEAKER_03: 7:30 tip, right?
8:14
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
8:14
SPEAKER_02: You know the history of Mississippi State basketball.
8:16
SPEAKER_02: If you've been watching Mississippi basketball for years, like we have it's uh free throw shooting.
8:21
SPEAKER_02: We can never make it's the same thing.
8:23
SPEAKER_02: We always cost games coming down to the wire.
8:26
SPEAKER_02: You think by now we'd we we can make them, but it's the same story every game.
8:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we had uh our best player.
8:33
SPEAKER_02: Uh um two, I always get Tulu Griffith Tolu, Tolu, Tolu.
8:38
SPEAKER_02: There's a two on the football team and Tolu on the basketball team.
8:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
8:41
SPEAKER_02: Tolu uh Smith is probably our best player on the team, and he was missing out there missing free throws on the game counting.
8:46
SPEAKER_02: So it's like, come on, man.
8:48
SPEAKER_02: Uh thank god it didn't cost us.
8:50
SPEAKER_02: But I mean, if you keep it up, it's gonna cost us.
8:52
SPEAKER_02: And I like Togo kicking in football, same sort of deal.
8:55
SPEAKER_02: But uh gosh, yeah, that was huge to get a win.
8:58
SPEAKER_02: Never in a million years would I thought we'd start off five and then beating beaten teams that are good, you know.
9:03
SPEAKER_02: These aren't uh these are legit teams.
9:07
SPEAKER_02: So uh so Jans, yeah, Jans Handy.
9:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he he's uh I feel like as much as I love Ben Howland, I feel like we if Ben Ben Howland was that coach, was it still our coach?
9:16
SPEAKER_02: We would have lost that game the other night.
9:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, so it's just I don't know the players feed off of uh Jans or or what, but he's a heck of a coach and um he's got us got us rolling right now.
9:27
SPEAKER_02: I'll make sure you see what happens tonight.
9:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, so uh a lot of exciting side when when the hoop when like when the hump is rocking, the hoops are are uh are are doing good in the start.
9:38
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's it's a fun time.
9:40
SPEAKER_02: So hopefully we'll get back to the Stansbury days.
9:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, probably uh uh maybe halfway through December or something.
9:47
SPEAKER_03: We should hop on here and do uh uh more of a basketball pod.
9:50
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I'd love that.
9:52
SPEAKER_03: Then we'll do that and we'll preview the bowl game a couple weeks after that, too.
9:55
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, um, you know, something about uh Tolu Smith.
10:00
SPEAKER_02: This is interesting.
10:01
SPEAKER_02: Did you realize this?
10:02
SPEAKER_02: So he transferred, if I'm correct, he transferred from western Kentucky, and that was Stansbury's the coach at Western Kentucky.
10:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then he played with Howland, and now he's with Jans.
10:11
SPEAKER_02: So he's playing with three uh Mississippi State basketball coaches.
10:15
SPEAKER_03: That's crazy.
10:16
SPEAKER_03: I didn't realize that.
10:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but uh yeah, it's exciting.
10:21
SPEAKER_02: They're they're they're fun to watch.
10:22
SPEAKER_02: So hopefully, uh listeners out there who've been on the fence about coming in the hump.
10:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I've been to one game so far this year there, and it's under the hump's under construction, but I mean it's uh it's still playable and stuff.
10:33
SPEAKER_02: So uh hopefully the fans will come out and support the team because they they're they're impressing everyone right now and they deserve your support.
10:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the hump looks good.
10:41
SPEAKER_03: I saw the new uh facade.
10:43
SPEAKER_03: Um they they covered up that old orange brick on the on the outside.
10:48
SPEAKER_03: It's it's looking really good.
10:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and the inside's gonna be cool too.
10:52
SPEAKER_02: It's like the um everything, like you know, you you have the walkway around the concourse where they had all the food and bathrooms and stuff.
11:00
SPEAKER_02: So it's gonna be opened up so you can walk out from the concourse into the arena.
11:05
SPEAKER_02: So there so it'll be an open area.
11:07
SPEAKER_02: So that'll be be uh be pretty cool.
11:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's gonna be nice when it gets finished.
11:13
SPEAKER_02: But but uh yeah, basketball is on the on this on the upswing and start vegas, and that's always a good thing.
11:19
SPEAKER_03: That's right.
11:20
SPEAKER_03: Well, Johnny, um let's make some predictions here.
11:24
SPEAKER_03: Um, so I I mean we we called it on the on the score last week.
11:29
SPEAKER_03: I said 56 21.
11:32
SPEAKER_03: I I got our our offensive numbers down, didn't quite get the get the defense enough credit for that one, but um I'm having a harder time with my prediction here.
11:42
SPEAKER_03: Uh so I'll let you lead off and you tell everybody what you think is gonna happen.
11:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, yeah, I think I picked, I can't remember what I said last year.
11:51
SPEAKER_03: I said 59 to yeah, I think I think we were off by about three.
11:57
SPEAKER_02: You may have said 59 or um I think I said 59 to 53 or something.
12:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 59 to 30.
12:03
SPEAKER_02: That's now so we're we were close, man.
12:06
SPEAKER_02: Every if you've been listening to this podcast, I keep saying this third week.
12:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, y'all need it, Vegas.
12:10
SPEAKER_02: People they need to contact us because we're like literally right on the money with the score predictions just about every single week.
12:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but as I always tell people, if they did contact us, we put money on it, we'd be losing it, wouldn't be close.
12:21
SPEAKER_02: So that's just the way it gets.
12:23
SPEAKER_02: But uh, so far in our picks, uh, if you listen to this, then you'll you we're we're close right on the money.
12:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, we had our guest on earlier today that I interviewed, and uh he made a prediction, and then I had the exact same score prediction as he did.
12:38
SPEAKER_02: Um, but because I uh switched it, I going into the uh podcast last week, I was gonna pick Ole Miss to win because I just feel like at that time I felt like Ole Miss was a better team, and I feel like we weren't gonna run the ball, and and which we don't still might not, but I was gonna pick Ole Miss to win.
12:57
SPEAKER_02: But I after watching the Arkansas game the other night, they just got just slaughtered.
13:02
SPEAKER_02: And um, so it's kind of changed my opinion on the game, and then all this Lane Kiffin drama is coming out, it's kind of changing my game, changing my opinion too.
13:11
SPEAKER_02: So I've actually switched my pick from picking Ole Miss to win, which is probably not a good thing for state because the reverse psychology with the egg ball, every time I go into it thinking old miss is gonna win, we always win.
13:22
SPEAKER_02: And when I feel confident state's gonna win, old miss uh pulls it out.
13:26
SPEAKER_02: So I probably should pick that reason, but I'm not gonna do it uh after seeing what all I've seen.
13:33
SPEAKER_02: And I will say this though: um, if state does not run the ball after Mike Leach is stubborn and just continues to throw the ball, especially if it rains, we're gonna lose the game.
13:43
SPEAKER_02: Uh there, you got to run the ball, got to have it uh um dual threat, you know, running and throwing just like we did in Arkansas and AM.
13:51
SPEAKER_02: If we do that, we'll win the game.
13:53
SPEAKER_02: If we do like we did against Kentucky or Alabama, teams like that, where we were insisting on throwing the ball and letting them come back like against Auburn, then we're gonna lose the game.
14:02
SPEAKER_02: As simple as that.
14:03
SPEAKER_02: So which team shows up?
14:05
SPEAKER_02: Um if if we run the ball, we have a chance.
14:08
SPEAKER_02: So I'm hoping we're gonna run the ball.
14:10
SPEAKER_02: Our guest is uh former star running back at state, so he knows well about the the running game, and he agreed with me about running the ball.
14:18
SPEAKER_02: So um I uh I went along with him, and we both said Mississippi 31, Ole Miss 24.
14:26
SPEAKER_03: Oh man, okay.
14:28
SPEAKER_03: Well, well, Johnny, um I'm right there with you.
14:32
SPEAKER_03: So I feel a lot better about this game than I did last week.
14:37
SPEAKER_03: And I'm a little concerned about the rain.
14:41
SPEAKER_03: Um and I and I feel like though it's gonna force Leach's hand, he's gonna have to run the ball.
14:47
SPEAKER_03: He's gonna have to.
14:48
SPEAKER_03: There's no way he can pass the ball the whole game.
14:51
SPEAKER_03: And right hoping he he he does that, runs the ball.
14:57
SPEAKER_03: And my prediction is 28-24 dogs.
15:00
SPEAKER_03: Be a close one, but I think we're gonna we're gonna pull it out.
15:03
SPEAKER_02: We're uh we're close on our predictions, both of us.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, it's good.
15:07
SPEAKER_02: I think the rain is gonna play a factor into it.
15:09
SPEAKER_02: You know, it did last year, it rained at the egg bowl last year, and we dropped uh a couple touchdown passes uh in the rain.
15:17
SPEAKER_02: So uh hopefully we've learned from that.
15:19
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's uh uh went to a place uh yesterday and and uh uh quarterback club last night, and our speaker was Jay Perry, and he was talking about how the team practices uh they have buckets of water that they soak the ball in to uh for Will to throw and practice and the receivers to have catch with a wet ball in our center to snap it so they can use to uh to a wet ball.
15:43
SPEAKER_02: So um last year we dropped in passes.
15:46
SPEAKER_02: So I mean, if you're if it rains, you common sense says you run the ball.
15:50
SPEAKER_02: That's how you win in the rain.
15:52
SPEAKER_02: Uh you I mean, you you can't throw the ball like you normally could when it's not raining, and our offense is so based on throwing it, it's gonna make you change schemes and and and you're gonna have to run the ball.
16:03
SPEAKER_02: So um, so it all depends on that.
16:06
SPEAKER_02: It seems simple, which is it's really not that not it's pretty probably real complicated, but simple for us to say.
16:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, but I mean, if it if it rains, we run the ball, we win the game.
16:17
SPEAKER_02: If it rains and we throw and don't run, we're gonna lose.
16:20
SPEAKER_03: Just boils down simple enough.
16:23
SPEAKER_03: Sure does.
16:24
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm looking forward to hearing your interview with uh D'Senzo Miller, and uh everybody else will be excited about hearing that one.
16:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, D'Senzo uh Miller is an all-time Mississippi State great.
16:36
SPEAKER_02: He was in college when we were there, he was there from '98 to 01, played with Dante Walker.
16:41
SPEAKER_02: And uh man, he had he was there.
16:43
SPEAKER_02: We we talked about the we relived the uh egg bowl games that he was there, and he went three out of three out of four years to beat Ole Miss.
16:50
SPEAKER_02: One of the freshman year, he uh they they won the uh SEC West and clinched it in it in Oxford on Thanksgiving night over Ole Miss.
16:59
SPEAKER_02: And that was the game afterwards with Tommy Taberville.
17:02
SPEAKER_02: Said that he he was uh staying at Oxford, you know, and you have to pull me out of your pond box and went to Auburn the next day.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: So a little deja vu, hopefully that'll be the same.
17:10
SPEAKER_02: But uh he has a great interview since I was uh uh a great gal around, and I think I'll really enjoy the tour of the interview uh did with him.
17:18
SPEAKER_02: But uh also one more thing before we get to my interview with him um is the pick'ems.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, make sure you uh you put in your picks um now because the games start tomorrow instead of Saturday.
17:31
SPEAKER_02: So uh make sure if you're listening, uh put it in.
17:34
SPEAKER_02: And I think we only have a couple more um week.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: Well, I guess this week and the SEC Championship, the championship week, and then the ball game.
17:43
SPEAKER_02: So uh go ahead and put them in.
17:45
SPEAKER_02: You know, our our predictions at the beginning of the season, I think we both said eight and four, and we're sitting at seven and four right now.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: So um it's gonna be interesting to see uh where we go for a bowl game.
17:56
SPEAKER_02: I I heard last night that that they were talking about um the 10 with Tennessee losing um then last week to South Carolina, that drops them into out of the playoff conversation.
18:08
SPEAKER_02: So the top bowl game who would normally pick a team uh not in the playoffs, um, then they get the uh top slot.
18:16
SPEAKER_02: So because uh the Sixers bowl is way up there.
18:18
SPEAKER_02: No, they were looking at us, but so um they also said that they look at teams eight and four, and then they look at the teams seven to five, and that there's a certain amount of ball games that could go for each way.
18:29
SPEAKER_02: So it really depends on the egg bowl.
18:32
SPEAKER_02: If we win, the egg bowl get eight wins, we're obviously gonna get a better ball game.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: If we lose and go seven to five, we're gonna we're gonna get a ball game.
18:40
SPEAKER_02: But my personal opinion, the ball game that I want to go to, so I'm happy.
18:44
SPEAKER_02: I'm of course I want state to win, but hey, if we drop the game to old miss and go seven to five, we end up in Las Vegas.
18:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm a happy guy.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: Mike Leaks in Las Vegas on the strip.
18:55
SPEAKER_02: You can't write a better story than that.
18:57
SPEAKER_02: So this is the uh they said that the Vegas ball, I think, is taking the place of the belt ball this year, and next year it's going back to the belt bowl.
19:05
SPEAKER_02: So sounds like the SEC tie-in.
19:07
SPEAKER_02: This might be the only year in Vegas for right now.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: So uh it looks like they take seven to five teams.
19:12
SPEAKER_02: So that could be a constellation prize if we happen to drop the egg ball, getting to go to Vegas.
19:16
SPEAKER_02: So uh, but uh hopefully, hopefully we can pull off the egg ball win and get a really good ball game.
19:22
SPEAKER_02: But that's always there in the back of my mind.
19:24
SPEAKER_02: I think uh FIVA lost Vegas tonight.
19:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:29
SPEAKER_03: All right.
19:29
SPEAKER_03: Well, hopefully the Cinzo is our good luck charm.
19:32
SPEAKER_03: I didn't realize he'd he'd he'd won three out of the four.
19:34
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, three out of four.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: Hopefully that's good luck, good luck charm for us uh tomorrow night.
19:39
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
19:40
SPEAKER_03: All right, y'all.
19:41
SPEAKER_03: Well, enjoy the interview with Johnny and De Cinzo, and we will catch y'all in a couple weeks.
19:46
SPEAKER_03: Talk a little basketball and a little bowl game.
19:49
SPEAKER_02: And what and one more thing, one final thing.
19:51
SPEAKER_02: Uh well, you know, we always talk about the uh the CF and uh the coffee products and all that sort of stuff.
19:56
SPEAKER_02: I think your father-in-law won.
19:57
SPEAKER_02: He said he didn't drink coffee, but we did have another winner.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: So reach out to us.
20:01
SPEAKER_02: I think I sent you an email, I hadn't heard back.
20:03
SPEAKER_02: But uh, like you said last week, Brandon, uh, if you're winning out there and you win uh a week and you get your coffee products, uh, post it on uh social media, tag us, and let us know because, like you said, all the money uh from those sales, if you buy them, uh goes to CF.
20:18
SPEAKER_02: So we want uh people to know to do that.
20:20
SPEAKER_02: So that would be great if you could help us out that way, guys.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: Uh who are listening in.
20:25
SPEAKER_02: So congrats on you winners and good luck to those who are taking a chance this week on it.
20:30
SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir.
20:32
SPEAKER_03: All right, Johnny.
20:33
SPEAKER_03: All right, we'll talk to you later.
20:34
SPEAKER_02: All right, Hell State.
20:36
SPEAKER_03: Hell State.
20:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay, welcome back to uh brand new edition of the Johnny's World Podcast.
20:47
SPEAKER_02: Johnny here doing uh doing an interview solo today.
20:50
SPEAKER_02: Uh BW is uh seeing some patients today with the uh Thanksgiving holidays coming up.
20:55
SPEAKER_02: He's kind of busy, so uh man, this interview solo, but I'm so honored to uh to have uh have a great uh Mississippi State guest with us today.
21:03
SPEAKER_02: I remember uh watching him win many games back in the day for the Bulldogs.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: So uh he's uh he's a uh one of a kind player, played running back for Mississippi State, won a lot of games under Coach Cheryl.
21:13
SPEAKER_02: So uh sinzo Miller, welcome to the Johnny Swirl Podcast.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: Man, um glad to be here.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having me.
21:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
21:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh gosh, we had a lot of good times back in the day uh at Mississippi State.
21:25
SPEAKER_02: Uh well, first of all, let's tell talk to uh the listeners out there uh what you're doing these days.
21:32
SPEAKER_01: Um now um I'm an offensive coordinator at um Lee Central High School La Foyer School.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: I'm in Carthage.
21:40
SPEAKER_01: Um also starting to get ready for baseball.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: So head baseball coach there.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: So I'm kind of staying busy um right now, a little under the weather, but stuck in the house.
21:53
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, can't complain right now.
21:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh League Central is that in in Louisville or Carthage?
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Carthage or what in in Carthage.
22:02
SPEAKER_02: In Carthage, okay.
22:03
SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
22:04
SPEAKER_02: And you're gonna be the head baseball coach, huh?
22:07
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: You know, I can't be excited about that.
22:10
SPEAKER_01: Uh stay stay busy.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
22:12
SPEAKER_01: A lot of people wonder like which one you love the most of football, baseball.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: I tell them both of them.
22:17
SPEAKER_02: I was gonna ask you that.
22:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
22:19
SPEAKER_02: That's awesome, man.
22:21
SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
22:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, uh, well, let's talk about some Mississippi State football.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I know you were part of some great uh great egg bowl wins for the Bulldogs uh back in the day, man.
22:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh, you want to talk about that, about your time playing at State and Nickels?
22:35
SPEAKER_01: Man, the egg bowl is is it's the the big game every year.
22:41
SPEAKER_01: Um it really don't matter what record either team have, it's the bragging rights.
22:48
SPEAKER_01: And so you know, you get the heads up in the recruiting, you know.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: So it's it's one of them games that you know now it's back on Thanksgiving too.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, you can't beat it.
22:59
SPEAKER_01: Can't beat it.
23:00
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
23:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that that that 98 egg ball, I remember it being played on Thanksgiving night up in Oxford, man.
23:05
SPEAKER_02: That was the that was a good one right there.
23:07
SPEAKER_02: When it went to the West on that one.
23:09
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes, you know, you know, now my freshman year, and then yeah, you know, going in that year, yeah, it was a big thing, you know, between state and old mid which school I was going to, and you know, the good Lord blessed me to chose Mississippi State, and you know, then it just ironic in that game I scored a touchdown on screen pass.
23:30
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, it was a blessing in the sky.
23:33
SPEAKER_02: It was that was uh that was a great, great uh win.
23:37
SPEAKER_02: I remember I was uh I was in high school at the time, and my my mom uh taught kindergarten and some uh an old miss family in her class.
23:45
SPEAKER_02: Uh, one of the kids in her class, her their family was old Miss fans.
23:48
SPEAKER_02: They couldn't go to the game, so the last second they invited uh me and my mom to use their tickets, and lo and behold, it was in the middle of the old miss section.
23:56
SPEAKER_02: And I snuck my cowbell in there, and man, I was ringing my cowbell, and these old miss people behind me were like, son, you're not gonna get out here alive with that cowbell.
24:05
SPEAKER_02: And man, y'all, y'all, y'all put the points on the board, got the win, and I was ringing that cowbell.
24:09
SPEAKER_02: Man, it was a good night.
24:10
SPEAKER_02: Good night to Bill Bulldog that night.
24:13
SPEAKER_02: And then yeah, and then you know, we we win the West that year and playing Atlanta, something state has not done since.
24:21
SPEAKER_02: And it's just a special season, the 98 with with Coach Sherrill.
24:24
SPEAKER_02: And I know you you you have fine memories of that.
24:27
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
24:28
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, got a chance to, you know, play against Tennessee, and then got a chance to play in the bowl game against uh Ricky Williams.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: So it was some guys gotta see.
24:38
SPEAKER_01: Then, you know, you got I got a chance to meet Keith Jackson.
24:42
SPEAKER_04: Nice.
24:42
SPEAKER_01: You know, that was one.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: I think we had a little contest uh who can do uh Whoa Nelly.
24:47
SPEAKER_01: Whoa Nelly.
24:49
SPEAKER_01: And I think I I think I won that.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: And um heck yeah.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: And I think like, man, you watch two TBs about say I watch everything.
24:57
SPEAKER_01: I so it was it was a special year, my especially going in your fresh freshman year.
25:02
SPEAKER_01: You like you were thinking probably like, man, what do I expect?
25:10
SPEAKER_01: High expectation that year, and it it was it was one, it was a year that I learned very quickly, especially running behind being behind JJ Johnson probably best back that comes.
25:23
SPEAKER_01: I seen pound for pound that done it.
25:27
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, it it was it was special for me.
25:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know you probably had a word, man.
25:32
SPEAKER_02: Like for freshman year coming in, we win the West.
25:35
SPEAKER_02: I mean, what what what what else can we do?
25:37
SPEAKER_02: And lo behold, the next year 99, y'all started off to that great eight-no start, man.
25:41
SPEAKER_02: Talk about that season.
25:42
SPEAKER_02: That was that was something else.
25:44
SPEAKER_01: The the year of the comebacks.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: Oh man, that's that year really it showed it it showed how how close we was, you know.
25:56
SPEAKER_01: Like, all right, if the offense struggling, the defense come up make plays.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: If defense struggles, offense, special team.
26:04
SPEAKER_01: Um against us, you you might want to go up 20 20 points.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: Because if it's anywhere from 10 less, we we found a way to win.
26:15
SPEAKER_01: So great, great group of guys.
26:17
SPEAKER_01: We we played on us, played on the every game was like we knew all right, you let us stay close, we're gonna win.
26:25
SPEAKER_01: So that was yeah, that was the type of year we had that year, and it was just special.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: I can still remember that that defense from that year, the dog safeties, Ashley Cooper man.
26:36
SPEAKER_02: That there, there's that was a stout defense, Julie Dunn that year.
26:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
26:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, with you got Jolie Dunn as your defense coordinator, your defense is gonna be yeah, and yeah, you're right, man.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: With the year of the comebacks, man, it was just it was something special, man.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: All these games coming down the wire in the egg bowl, 99 egg bowl, man.
26:57
SPEAKER_02: Let's talk a little bit about that, man.
26:58
SPEAKER_02: Who I I was talking to someone the other day.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: Can you believe we we tore the goalpost down after beating all miss?
27:04
SPEAKER_02: Wasn't that something?
27:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it was just you know, it was ironic air bubble down, and we kept chipping away, kept chipping away.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: And it started, we were driving, and we drove, had two minute, two minute drill.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: Um, we got a score, tired up, and um man, just and then on defense we come up with a big play, the tip, the tilt kit.
27:38
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, and and probably we don't have one of the best kickers come through beside Hazelwood, um, Westerfield.
27:44
SPEAKER_04: That was clutch.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: So when it came down to it and we got in his range, it was it was no doubt.
27:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was uh that was a special moment right there.
27:56
SPEAKER_02: That that 99 egg bowl.
27:58
SPEAKER_02: And uh gosh, then we went off to the uh to the peach bowl and beat Clemson that year.
28:03
SPEAKER_02: That was that was special.
28:06
SPEAKER_01: That was you know, that was that was it was big.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: I think that it took some momentum in going into that going in the next year.
28:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was special.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then uh and then let's talk about year 2000.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: So 2000, that was my freshman year of college, uh, in 2000.
28:24
SPEAKER_02: So my very my first uh home game, I guess.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, first home game as a college student was to this day probably one of my favorite games of all time when we beat Florida.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, you you and Dante, man.
28:37
SPEAKER_02: Y'all, y'all.
28:37
SPEAKER_02: I I have I still have that picture somewhere.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: There's a picture you've probably seen it with you running the ball and Wayne Mackin's in the background of Florida.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm talking about?
28:45
SPEAKER_04: Uh-huh.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I had that framed on my wall, man.
28:48
SPEAKER_02: What a game.
28:49
SPEAKER_02: Talk a little bit about that game.
28:50
SPEAKER_02: I I still, it's my probably one of my favorite games.
28:53
SPEAKER_01: Um I think we just had came off a loss from um South Carolina, yeah.
29:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, I I remember I remember that game because I had to.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: I I knew I had a muff to punt, and at that point I felt like I let the team down, and I had something to prove.
29:15
SPEAKER_01: And I know my my team, my teammates had my baby like, man, let that go.
29:20
SPEAKER_01: We lost this team.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: We oh we're gonna come back.
29:22
SPEAKER_01: And we knew we were probably like a three-touch down underdog with the number three team coming in, but we knew we go in there and can play with them.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: I know we looked, I think we looked at the stats when when they came to Missouri State, it wasn't good for them.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: So we had that we had that in our back pocket.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, we didn't have nothing to lose.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: Um, I thought I I think uh for them to have Alex Brown, Leto Shepard.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: Um they had a stout bunch, but we knew we matched up very well.
29:56
SPEAKER_01: Who we were physical, and you know, that was our game plan.
30:00
SPEAKER_01: I think we had over 300 some yard rushing.
30:05
SPEAKER_01: And that was that was a big difference.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I remember they had that.
30:10
SPEAKER_02: We put it put them back one play, it was like third and 57 or something.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: It was a long yeah, it was our our our defense and running.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we we just dominated him, and then we tore down the goal post.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: And gosh, what a day and startful that was, man.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: It was something special.
30:27
SPEAKER_02: It was something special.
30:28
SPEAKER_02: It's funny.
30:28
SPEAKER_02: We we I remember uh Coach Cheryl always talking about he wanted to make the make the old ball coach throw his visor down, and oh Spurger threw his visor visor down quite a bit that day.
30:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, yeah.
30:39
SPEAKER_02: It was funny.
30:40
SPEAKER_02: I saw a picture of uh of Steve Spurrier uh on the field at uh Davis Wade this weekend, um, wearing Mississippi State gear, supporting his son, uh Steve Spurger Jr.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: I was like, I wonder if he remembers those games when the Florida team got whooped by a state.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: I think he does he just probably glad he's on this side now.
31:00
SPEAKER_02: Exactly, exactly.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: But uh and then going into her senior year, we had a we had a rough year that senior year in 01, and but uh but man, we ended it with a bang uh beating Ole Miss.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: Talk a little bit about that game.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: I think that was uh was that Eli Manning's?
31:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was Kevin Fant versus Eli Manning.
31:18
SPEAKER_02: And we beat Ole Miss in 01.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: That kind of uh, you know, like I said, we had a rough, rough year, but that kind of made up for it at the end, knowing that we could we won the egg ball.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it it was a rough year, uh, you know, 9-11.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: Uh and I and you know that happened, it it kind of threw everybody back.
31:34
SPEAKER_01: Then we had a lot of injuries, you know, it was something that I had to get used to.
31:40
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, from middle school from seventh grade to junior year college, I never had a losing season.
31:50
SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, I I struggled.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: We were losing, we were playing, we were playing good ball, we just didn't couldn't find a way to win.
31:57
SPEAKER_01: And so it was it was frustrating, and I wouldn't let my teammate know, but I used to go home just like, man, what I need to do, what can I do better?
32:07
SPEAKER_01: And I used to get frustrated, but I wouldn't never let them know because I I I felt like I had to carry the team on my back.
32:15
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, when it came down to that to the airboard, I like, yeah, I'm not going two and two.
32:23
SPEAKER_01: We gonna we gonna go in the thing, we're gonna end it.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: If we gonna leave out of here, we're gonna live out three and one against O Miss.
32:31
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, we went out, we played our game.
32:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think by far, probably one of my best games that year, you know.
32:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: Being, you know, I I played all year with a torn MCL, played with a high angle spring, and people wouldn't never tell because I I I that's how I play.
32:53
SPEAKER_01: I I just played, I played hurt all the time.
32:55
SPEAKER_01: So I think that's why a lot of people respect me now.
32:59
SPEAKER_01: I played because I left it out, left it out on the field.
33:03
SPEAKER_02: You did, man.
33:04
SPEAKER_02: You you're tough, man.
33:05
SPEAKER_02: That's yeah, you're exactly right.
33:06
SPEAKER_02: That's why everybody respected you as a as a leader on the team.
33:09
SPEAKER_02: And man, uh I know that was that was a good feeling in that year, uh, with a victory over Ole Miss and No one getting the egg bowl trophy back.
33:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
33:19
SPEAKER_02: Well, well, let's talk about this year's team.
33:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh, have you been following the Bulldogs this season?
33:23
SPEAKER_02: I how you think we're doing under Mike Leach?
33:26
SPEAKER_01: I think I think we're doing we're doing good.
33:29
SPEAKER_01: I just, you know, me personally as a running back, you know, I think we ran the ball more this year.
33:36
SPEAKER_01: I think the backs we got are really good.
33:39
SPEAKER_01: Um, I just I I me personally, I I think we could do more.
33:46
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm like expectation for offense is more.
33:49
SPEAKER_01: I think passing is is there.
33:52
SPEAKER_01: Um I I just like what we're doing.
33:55
SPEAKER_01: I like like me now as offense coordinator, yeah.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: You you would you would think that um I run the ball more.
34:06
SPEAKER_01: Shoot, I I threw the ball more.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: I you know, my office coordinator, another offer, my head coach, he's an old miss guy.
34:13
SPEAKER_01: He was like, Man, you you call him you calling he played like Mike Leach.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh man, that's a good call.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: So you know, so it it you know for me sitting back watching, I I love what we do.
34:27
SPEAKER_01: I just you know, we just gotta finish things, and I think this week this is gonna show how we can we can finish finish things off and get to and get to um the one thing about it, one thing you can't stop missing state, we're gonna get to a bowl game.
34:42
SPEAKER_01: So that's right.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna make sure hopefully we get this get this win, being a better bowl bowl game.
34:51
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, uh in the in the AM and the Arkansas game, I was really I was really excited to see us run the ball in those games.
34:59
SPEAKER_02: You know, we we uh you know we we kind of flipped the script a little bit and surprised them uh with the running game and uh Dylan Johnson and Woody Marks uh really took off and that and those and and then the Kentucky game we kind of shied away from it.
35:12
SPEAKER_02: I really hope um because if if you watch the old miss Arkansas game last week, and that you know they they had a tough time stopping the run.
35:18
SPEAKER_02: I really hope we can we can use our backs this weekend or Thursday night and and get the running game involved because I think that's gonna be a key to success.
35:26
SPEAKER_01: I think so.
35:27
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, especially if the running game is going good for you, you know, it opened up play action and and it draw guys to the line of scrimmage.
35:40
SPEAKER_01: So so that's that's one thing I that's what I love about you know the game that we was successful in running is the one we lost.
35:49
SPEAKER_01: Right very well.
35:51
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, at as time goes on, I think I think this week is gonna be an example of we're gonna be balanced there.
36:01
SPEAKER_01: I because I know our defense is gonna play well.
36:03
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
36:04
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's one thing the bright spot the defense has been playing very well.
36:08
SPEAKER_01: So I you know they they gonna do their job, and often hopefully offense can finish this thing off.
36:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I looked at the forecast, it looks like it's gonna be be cold and rainy.
36:21
SPEAKER_02: So I know y'all played in the egg ball, egg balls when it's cold and rainy.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: So what what would you say to the players out there to get prepared for a game like that?
36:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh, that's the best game to have, best game to have you um, especially if you're a running back, this is the best time to have your best game.
36:40
SPEAKER_01: Um the games I played in are probably by far my best game in high school and in college when it's when it's wet.
36:49
SPEAKER_01: So and that's when the linemans and D-linemen love love this game.
36:55
SPEAKER_01: That that's when they know it's gonna come to them.
36:58
SPEAKER_01: And I think I think off of the line gonna be doing a do gonna do a very good job.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: All right.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: Well, well, you got a uh you got a score prediction for us, Cenza?
37:08
SPEAKER_02: I'll give you one.
37:09
SPEAKER_02: And who you what do you think?
37:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'll get I'll say stake 31-24.
37:17
SPEAKER_02: 31-24.
37:18
SPEAKER_02: I I like that, man.
37:19
SPEAKER_02: I I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go, let's see, you say 31-24.
37:24
SPEAKER_02: I'll probably go um, man, I'm gonna go with you 31-24.
37:29
SPEAKER_02: That sounds like a good score to predict.
37:31
SPEAKER_02: Because uh, you know, like we just said with the rain, I don't know.
37:35
SPEAKER_02: Ole Miss puts up a lot of points, but if our D can step up and stop him right there and hold him to some points, and then uh and we can just get a little bit more, then I think we can come on, come out and win.
37:45
SPEAKER_02: So I'm with you on the pick.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: I think that's a good pick.
37:48
SPEAKER_02: Uh and another thing, you know, all this stuff we've been reading about about Lane Kiffin, that could play in a play in effect uh with Ole Miss, you know, as far as like them not being focused and all that.
37:59
SPEAKER_01: I think it's more it's more pressure on them than it is on us.
38:03
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, and it's ironic, it's ironic this whole situation.
38:08
SPEAKER_01: It was just like like this in '98 with Tubbaville.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:18
SPEAKER_01: Auburn.
38:18
SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's ironic, it's the same, it's the same situation.
38:22
SPEAKER_02: Same situation.
38:23
SPEAKER_01: And then that's when it came out, yeah, and y'all dominated.
38:26
SPEAKER_01: And the crazy thing about everything ironic, if the game is at Ole Miss.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
38:32
SPEAKER_02: Thanksgiving night.
38:33
SPEAKER_01: Thanksgiving night.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: It's it's deja vu again.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: We wake up if Friday morning he come out, he go to Auburn.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: We we already we already talked about it deja vu again.
38:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
38:48
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
38:48
SPEAKER_02: If that's the case, we then then we should come out as as the winner, like we did in '98.
38:53
SPEAKER_02: So oh yeah.
38:54
SPEAKER_02: Hopefully that'll be the case.
38:56
SPEAKER_02: But uh, but really that's all I had.
38:58
SPEAKER_02: Senzo, um, my man, I can't thank you enough for jumping in and sharing some some of your memories from playing days and state and the egg bowl and letting everybody know what you're doing now.
39:06
SPEAKER_02: And best of luck to you.
39:07
SPEAKER_02: Uh, especially uh coming up with baseball season coming up.
39:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm I'll be looking forward to following y'all there and see how everything's going.
39:14
SPEAKER_01: No problem, man.
39:15
SPEAKER_01: Anytime, anytime.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: Go dog, hell state.
39:18
SPEAKER_02: No dogs.
39:19
SPEAKER_02: All right, it says I take care, everybody.
39:21
SPEAKER_02: All right.
39:21
SPEAKER_02: All right, bye.