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Scheme Insider: 5 Concepts Indiana Might Use On Offense Against Ohio State · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: going to be taking a little bit of a look
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  Speaker 1: ahead at the Indiana Hoosiers offense and what they might
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  Speaker 1: try to do against Ohio State's defense. And as I mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: joined by Michael Pettit of BuckeyeInsiders.com. And Michael, this is
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  Speaker 1: a very RPO heavy offense at times for Indiana. They
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  Speaker 1: have a really dangerous pair of wide receivers in Nick
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  Speaker 1: Marsh and Charlie Becker. So you really have to respect
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  Speaker 1: the P in the RPO. So let's start with a
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  Speaker 1: play where they're just running a hitch. So you're just
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  Speaker 1: running sort of a short route. Felt like the wind
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  Speaker 1: was a real factor for limiting the passing offense for
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  Speaker 1: Indiana against Nebraska last week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that's true.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen a lot of people talk about
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  Speaker 3: how Josh Hoover didn't look good against Nebraska. It was
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  Speaker 3: pretty windy, you know, and that matters as we've seen. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone remembers the 2022 game that
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State played against Northwestern, but, you know, you couldn't
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  Speaker 3: blame C.J.
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  Speaker 2: Stroud that day.
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  Speaker 3: But, yeah, Indiana's offense in my admittedly, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: couldn't watch, not like I could watch every play they've
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  Speaker 3: ran this year, but I watched a good amount of
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  Speaker 3: their conference games. And my takeaway from their offense is
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  Speaker 3: that it's really RPO driven. I mean, both their passing
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  Speaker 3: game and their running game, really the RPO drives. One
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  Speaker 3: thing they like to do in the RPO game is
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  Speaker 3: they like to, you know, throw the quick hitches, quick reliefs,
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  Speaker 3: things like that. And sometimes at times, there are times
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  Speaker 3: where Josh Hoover doesn't read it right, in my opinion.
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  Speaker 3: And this is one of them, just an example of,
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  Speaker 3: Nebraska is in cover one here. So I'm not really
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  Speaker 3: sure why Josh Hoover made this read. I'm not trying
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  Speaker 3: to be too critical. Every quarterback makes wrong reads here
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  Speaker 3: and there. But yeah, Nebraska had some trouble or had
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  Speaker 3: some success shutting this down by just running man coverage
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  Speaker 3: and kind of being all over these little hitches that
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  Speaker 3: Indiana likes.
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  Speaker 2: To throw off their RPO action. And this is a
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  Speaker 2: good example.
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  Speaker 1: So you stop that by sitting on it. And then
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  Speaker 1: of course, there's always an answer. Everyone always has an answer.
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  Speaker 1: And the answer to that is a hitch and go.
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  Speaker 1: And this is one of these double moves that you'll
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  Speaker 1: see guys do where it feels like, okay, you got
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  Speaker 1: to protect the quarterback. But if you can protect the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback and you guess wrong, or you get a little
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  Speaker 1: too aggressive, they can really make you pay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I got to be honest.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really happy that Indiana ran this against Nebraska and
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  Speaker 3: put it on film. So just to, you know, make
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State and their staff aware of it, that if
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  Speaker 3: you are just, if your plan is just to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: play man coverage and really sit on those hitch routes,
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  Speaker 3: Indiana has a constraint for that to catch you off guard.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what they do here. They connect with Charlie
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  Speaker 3: Becker for a big gain on this RPO hitch and
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  Speaker 3: go play. And so, you know, that's why I don't
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  Speaker 3: think it's as easy as just lining up and cover one. Again,
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  Speaker 3: Nebraska had some success. But as we said, it was
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  Speaker 3: a windy day. And also, like here, Indiana still had
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  Speaker 3: some success through the air.
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  Speaker 1: Next up, we're going to look at a couple of
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  Speaker 1: run plays. And man, Indiana really did not run the
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  Speaker 1: ball well against Nebraska. And as we keep saying, it
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  Speaker 1: was very windy. And that limits your passing attack, which
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  Speaker 1: then lets the defense sit on the run. So I guess,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, how much of Indiana's struggles on the
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  Speaker 1: ground do you chalk up to the fact that Nebraska
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  Speaker 1: was able to really kind of creep up to the
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  Speaker 1: line and be very, very aggressive in that run game.
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  Speaker 1: And then you can also walk us through it on
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  Speaker 1: this one where they're running duo.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is a duo RPO. They hand the
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  Speaker 3: ball off in this one. It's kind of interesting. Indiana
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  Speaker 3: runs a fair amount of duo, but they run it
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  Speaker 3: differently than most teams. So they run it from gun,
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  Speaker 3: whereas like Ohio State usually runs it from under center.
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  Speaker 3: But more importantly, when Indiana runs duo, they tend to
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  Speaker 3: have the running back opposite of the strong side of
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  Speaker 3: the formation, which is unusual. Usually if you're running duo
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  Speaker 3: from gun, you're going to have that running back to
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  Speaker 3: the same side of the offensive strength or like the
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  Speaker 3: tight end here, for example. But based on the blocking scheme,
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying there's always the debate inside zone versus duo.
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  Speaker 3: Some of them are pretty close. This is an example
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  Speaker 3: of one that's pretty close. I'm going to answer that.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is duo here. And the next play
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  Speaker 3: we look at will kind of show why I think that.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think Nebraska, you know, being able to
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  Speaker 3: play aggressively, help versus the run. I think Nebraska is
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  Speaker 3: a good team too. I mean, I don't think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: having too much struggles in the run game is necessarily
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  Speaker 3: an indictment on Indiana because Indiana ran the ball very
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  Speaker 3: well against Northwestern, even though Northwestern, as far as I'm aware,
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  Speaker 3: is considered to have a pretty decent run defense.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, this is just one of the other ways.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, I think their offense is very RPO driven,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's through the air or on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: And they're going to run all sorts of RPOs.
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  Speaker 3: Like the last one we looked at on the hitch
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  Speaker 3: and go was a split zone RPO. This is a
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  Speaker 3: duo RPO. So they do mix it up a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: It's mostly zone and duo based. But yeah, I think that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, stopping the run is going to be just
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  Speaker 3: as important as it always is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one of the other things they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: to try and stop is wind back. This one, we
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  Speaker 1: are going to wind it back a little bit. This
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  Speaker 1: was not last week. This is when they played Rutgers,
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  Speaker 1: but it is another run concept that I'm guessing the
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyes are going to have to prepare for this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is kind of why I think the
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  Speaker 3: last play was duo. Indiana runs a lot of lineback
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  Speaker 3: from shotgun. Also, they ran this a lot last year
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  Speaker 3: as well. And you'll kind of see that it's wind
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  Speaker 3: back because you'll see the receiver coming in motion. And
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  Speaker 3: the entire offensive line is, you know, they're double teaming hard,
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  Speaker 3: stepping to their left and trying to really drive Rutgers
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  Speaker 3: vertical and to the left. And that's the same action
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  Speaker 3: as duo. So I think Indiana, just to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: throw teams off, I think that they just kind of
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  Speaker 3: run duo and wind back with the back away from
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  Speaker 3: the offensive strength. Like here, they've got the two tight
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  Speaker 3: ends and the backs away. But yeah, this is a
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  Speaker 3: play that Indiana runs quite a bit. On this topic,
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  Speaker 3: this play is something that I've seen Indiana run on
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  Speaker 3: third and medium to third and long-ish at times. Not
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  Speaker 3: just this play, but just in general. Indiana is not
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  Speaker 3: shy to run the ball on third and six. If
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  Speaker 3: anyone can remember the national championship against Miami last year,
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  Speaker 3: I think they converted two or three third and six,
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  Speaker 3: third and sevens running the ball because Miami lined up
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  Speaker 3: in a blitz package formation. which kind of puts you
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  Speaker 3: out of position to defend the run. This is one
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  Speaker 3: of the plays they would often run when doing so
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  Speaker 3: in that situation. But yeah, Weinbach seems to be a
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  Speaker 3: pretty big staple of their offensive front game.
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  Speaker 1: And one thing that's not really a staple but could
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  Speaker 1: be a really, really impactful thing in small doses is
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  Speaker 1: the QB scramble. And that's something I think Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: fans have seen opponents pick up some critical plays with
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  Speaker 1: the QB scramble and kind of wanted their QB to
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  Speaker 1: do it. And they're finally getting more of that this
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  Speaker 1: year from Julian saying, but Josh Hoover, he feels like
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  Speaker 1: he brings a little bit more explosiveness to the potential
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  Speaker 1: QB scramble game. This is something, how, how do you
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  Speaker 1: expect Matt Patricia to try and defend against this?
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  Speaker 3: Well, in Matt Patricia's time at Ohio state being a little,
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  Speaker 3: hyperbolic here, but he's essentially never taken a single risk
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  Speaker 3: against an even moderately athletic quarterback. So I'm not expecting
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  Speaker 3: he's going to get too aggressive with Josh Hoover and
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  Speaker 3: the Indiana offense on Saturday. You know, like against Arch Manning,
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  Speaker 3: it was almost three-man rush zone coverage, sometimes even with
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  Speaker 3: a designated spy the entire time. I just don't see
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  Speaker 3: him being willing to gamble. Now, do I agree with
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  Speaker 3: that approach? on some level, like I get it. You
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  Speaker 3: don't want to just go out there and be crazy
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  Speaker 3: because that is reckless. And Josh Hoover is a good athlete.
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  Speaker 3: He will, he will hurt you with his legs if
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  Speaker 3: you give him the opportunity. But I think, you know, on, uh,
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  Speaker 3: obvious passing situations. Well, I don't know actually, because as
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  Speaker 3: I just said, Indiana is not afraid to run the
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  Speaker 3: ball in those situations. I do think essentially Matt Patricia
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  Speaker 3: needs to be more aggressive than he was against Texas,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm not necessarily asking for him to, uh, blitz
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  Speaker 3: every player or anything like that. Just, you know, try
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  Speaker 3: to strike the right balance. And I think that's going
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  Speaker 3: to be hard to do against this Indian offense. Again,
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  Speaker 3: Andrew Marsh and Charlie Becker are very, very good receivers.
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  Speaker 3: They're not just like solid guys. I mean, those are
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  Speaker 3: really good players. I think Josh Hoover is a little
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  Speaker 3: better than most people do. Most Ohio State fans seem
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  Speaker 3: to think at least. I don't think he's as good
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  Speaker 3: as Fernando Mendoza, but I think he's a solid quarterback
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  Speaker 3: and can definitely get in a rhythm and do good things.
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  Speaker 3: I think Indiana's running backs are not quite as good
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  Speaker 3: as the two guys they had last year in Kalen
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  Speaker 3: Black and Roman Hemby, but they're still very talented. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think both of Indiana's running backs would be playing
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  Speaker 3: a lot at Ohio State as well. So, all in all, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think this offense is quite as good as
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  Speaker 3: last year's. This is a really, really difficult task for
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  Speaker 3: the Buckeyes on Saturday. I mean, this offense is probably
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  Speaker 3: a more difficult task than Texas' offense, frankly, in my opinion.
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  Speaker 3: I do think that Texas' offensive line was probably better
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  Speaker 3: than Indiana's, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a really... Really, really tough task for
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State. All right.
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