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What'd She Say? Weapons-Grade, Why Michael Jackson? · Rich Valdés: This is America!

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  Speaker 1: This is America with Rich Valdez powered by poliitweek dot
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  Speaker 1: Com and Rich Veldees.
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  Speaker 2: Is with US former Christian Administration official.
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  Speaker 3: You work at Chris Christie and in Fallistas on a
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  Speaker 3: lot of public service stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Rich Valdez columnist now with the Washington Times.
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  Speaker 4: This is America, Richiev.
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  Speaker 5: You're on the air with the Nation of the Nation
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  Speaker 5: with America.
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  Speaker 4: With your host, Rich Valdez.
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  Speaker 5: What's up, America.
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  Speaker 1: I am Rich Valdez Valdesz with an asked at Rich
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  Speaker 1: Valdez on all of the social media.
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  Speaker 5: You're liberty loving Latino.
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  Speaker 1: Amigo, seventeen blocks away from Madison Square Garden here in
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  Speaker 1: Times Square, New York City. Blessed to be back with you,
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  Speaker 1: my amigos, my late night familia, for the Wednesday night
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  Speaker 1: edition of This Is America with Rich Valdez. And as
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  Speaker 1: you guys know, this is our late night national town
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  Speaker 1: hall conversation. So I need you to give me a
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  Speaker 1: call eight seven seven Valdez one. That's eight seven seven,
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  Speaker 1: eight twenty five thirty three seventy one and sound off
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  Speaker 1: with a voice note, give me your opinion on the
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  Speaker 1: issues and will air during our Open Phone America segment.
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  Speaker 1: But first I want to start with ill hand Omar.
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  Speaker 1: You remember her, right, some people did something. I even
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  Speaker 1: the Familia. We have this resurface video of her talking
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  Speaker 1: about how detained immigrants during World War eleven, Right, world
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  Speaker 1: War eleven, not two, not two two, but world War eleven.
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  Speaker 1: Like she skipped a few chapters in the history book
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  Speaker 1: or her notes were written in Roman numerals, and she
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  Speaker 1: just kind of winged it.
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  Speaker 5: It really was funny. Man. Listen.
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  Speaker 1: Even my Belita back in Puerto Rico knows it was
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  Speaker 1: World War two, and I think everybody knows that there's
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  Speaker 1: only been two World Wars and whatever conflict we're in
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  Speaker 1: now is what we always call World War three. Yet
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  Speaker 1: she called it world War eleven. Now, I guess it's
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  Speaker 1: a you know, somewhat of a simple mistake, one might presume,
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  Speaker 1: but one that was definitely funny in my opinion, right,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't get over that one.
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  Speaker 5: I think we have the audio of that. Listen to this.
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  Speaker 6: The last time the Alien Enemies Act was invoked, it
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  Speaker 6: was used to detain and deport German, Japanese Italian immigrants
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  Speaker 6: doing World War eleven two one of the most shameful
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  Speaker 6: chapters of American history. Now Stephen Miller and val Trump
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  Speaker 6: are preparing to dust off the law for their plan
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  Speaker 6: for mass deportation. This will be another moral stain on
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  Speaker 6: our country.
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  Speaker 5: Elhanomar.
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  Speaker 1: If it's true that you married your brother, that is
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  Speaker 1: the moral stain on our country. That will be a
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  Speaker 1: classic forever. Anyway, we got a big show for you tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I was over at the Trump Kennedy Center on Monday
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  Speaker 1: night and it was a great talk featuring Shark Tanks
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  Speaker 1: Kevin O'Leary along with Ashley Davis. A big shout out
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  Speaker 1: to them the excellent job. Radio host Rob Carson was themoderator.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to Rob Carson as well. And I was
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  Speaker 1: invited by Rob and Ashlee and I used the same agent,
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  Speaker 1: Stephanie Cassidy, former vice president of Talent and Booking at Newsmax,
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  Speaker 1: and she asked me to swing by and I did so.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to thank them all for that. It
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  Speaker 1: was a great time and all this hype they make
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  Speaker 1: about the Trump Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, it
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  Speaker 1: is absolutely gorgeous to place. Fantastic, beautiful theater, great venue,
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  Speaker 1: amazing views this beautiful terrorists. I hadn't been there before,
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  Speaker 1: so quick shout out to all of them as well.
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  Speaker 5: Great job.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to continue talking about a few different
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  Speaker 1: things because there's a new study that's raising alarms about
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  Speaker 1: how much is too much when it comes to screen time,
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  Speaker 1: saying it actually might be damaging kids developing brains.
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  Speaker 5: Now. I mentioned that to my daughter and she.
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  Speaker 1: Was like, duh, they used to call TVs the idiot box?
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  Speaker 5: What'd you think?
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, Wow, that didn't surprise her, It surprised me.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently there's a loss of white matter in the brain
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  Speaker 1: when you have this exposure to the screen time, and
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  Speaker 1: just even a couple hours a day messes it up.
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  Speaker 1: So parents, this one's worth paying attention to. Bookmark this one,
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  Speaker 1: share it with your friends. We'll get into that momentarily
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  Speaker 1: when we come back after the first pause, I think
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it there, right, What does it mean
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  Speaker 1: to our children the next generation? How's that gonna work
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  Speaker 1: if screens are turning our kids into zombies? Plus, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to get into this Minnesota story. Minneapolis, the FBI
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  Speaker 1: rated the infamous Quality Leering Center, yes spelled just like that.
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  Speaker 1: They forgot the end. That's how quality they are. It
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  Speaker 1: should say learning center, but it's a leering center, and
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  Speaker 1: more than twenty other daycare and autism providers and centers
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  Speaker 1: as part of a massive fraud investigation. This was something
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  Speaker 1: funded by taxpayers in Minnesota, and the federal gover sponsored
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  Speaker 1: a big part of this. So you and me and
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  Speaker 1: the rest of us, we're all paying for the Minnesotans
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  Speaker 1: to just spend money, to spend money that wasn't theirs
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  Speaker 1: buying all sorts of cars. And Secretary Brooke Rowlins talked
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about that this fraud that she's finding.
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  Speaker 5: Listen to this.
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  Speaker 7: We see no data was shared. We had no idea
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  Speaker 7: where the taxpayer dollars were spent just one red state.
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  Speaker 7: The recent dump of data, we found SNAP recipients had
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  Speaker 7: more than two thousand Tesla owners, two hundred Alpha Romeo owners,
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  Speaker 7: more than one hundred and forty four that were receiving
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  Speaker 7: food stamps. We're driving porsches again. This is the data
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  Speaker 7: dumps we're getting because that we before we had no
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  Speaker 7: accountability on any of these programs. We now are requiring accountability.
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  Speaker 7: The Blue states are suing us. They don't want to
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  Speaker 7: share the data and can you imagine this was a
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  Speaker 7: red state where there is actually some taxpayer accountability, Imagine
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  Speaker 7: what's happening in the blue states if that's happening in
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  Speaker 7: the red states.
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  Speaker 8: Share.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she makes a good point. Listen, this
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  Speaker 1: is again she's talking about stuff that they're doing nationwide.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into the whole quality leering center of the
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  Speaker 1: learning center stuff with our guest, our guest coming up
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  Speaker 1: in a little bit, who's going to help us break
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  Speaker 1: that down. But isn't it amazing how they're just finding
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  Speaker 1: fraud everywhere? And she nailed it right now when she
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  Speaker 1: said it. The reason they're finding fraud everywhere is because
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  Speaker 1: they're looking for it. Isn't that something right? One would
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  Speaker 1: have thought that wasn't the case, right, or that it
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  Speaker 1: was always the case that people were looking for fraud.
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  Speaker 1: But apparently they were looking for fraud and they found it.
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  Speaker 1: What a novel idea, really truly a novel idea. Quite amazing, honestly. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: we continue, we've got that going. Then we got the
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  Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Supreme Court just ruled on a key redistricting case,
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  Speaker 1: the Calai case. They were pushing back against the racial
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  Speaker 1: gerrymandering because they say that we can't let race be
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  Speaker 1: a predominant factor when redrawing maps. It's about population, not
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  Speaker 1: about skin color. That's a big winner for anybody who
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  Speaker 1: believes in a color blind society, which should be most
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  Speaker 1: of us, right, we believe in the content of their character,
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  Speaker 1: not the color of their skin. I believe that was
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  Speaker 1: MLK that said that, So we'll jump into that. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get some legal analysis on that in a little bit
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  Speaker 1: as well. Plus the Michael Jackson movie. I've been wanting
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  Speaker 1: to get into that. There's a couple of kIPS I
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  Speaker 1: want to play and really talk about how it's really
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  Speaker 1: crushing things at the box office, breaking records left and
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  Speaker 1: right despite the critics. And one of the critics is
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  Speaker 1: his sister, Janet Jackson. She didn't want anything to do
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  Speaker 1: with that movie. Meanwhile, the rest of them did. His children,
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  Speaker 1: his brothers. Interesting to see how these family divisions work out.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I had access to get one of the
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  Speaker 1: Jacksons on to talk about this. That would be really fun. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: one of the Jackson's, if you're out there, please join me.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to get into the mechanics of this and
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  Speaker 1: learn more about it. Anyway, I think that it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: cool that America is learning about Moonwalking. I know my
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  Speaker 1: kid went to the opening night and it opened on
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  Speaker 1: a Wednesday, last Wednesday, and she was just floored. She's
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  Speaker 1: a big fan of Chris Brown, who is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: probably somebody carrying the tradition of Michael Jackson, not inso
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  Speaker 1: much as fame and whatnot, but in the style of
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  Speaker 1: dancing and that type of interpretation and his performance. And
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  Speaker 1: he was kind of co signed by Jackson years ago.
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  Speaker 1: And she loved it. She loved the film. She's been
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  Speaker 1: listening to all the Michael Jackson songs. Michael Jackson's work
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  Speaker 1: again another timeless classic, and of course all the different
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  Speaker 1: stuff that they went through with Trump helping him out.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll get into that a little bit as well,
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  Speaker 1: in a little bit more depth. And speaking of accountability,
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  Speaker 1: a former top aide to doctor Fauci has been arrested
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  Speaker 1: and charged with conspiring to conceal records related to the
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  Speaker 1: COVID origins and the research related to that.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't that something? Listen to this.
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  Speaker 9: Pop advisor to doctor Anthony Fauci now facing criminal charges,
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  Speaker 9: this over an alleged cover up involving recent search under
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  Speaker 9: the origins of COVID. Ridge Edson on this story intriguing
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  Speaker 9: rich what you find out there in Washington.
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  Speaker 4: Now it is Bill.
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  Speaker 10: The Justice Department has charged David Morin's, a doctor, with conspiracy,
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  Speaker 10: claiming he concealed federal records to counter evidence that COVID
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  Speaker 10: nineteen may have leaked from a lab in China, all
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  Speaker 10: to help restore a controversial coronavirus Grant. Morians, a former
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  Speaker 10: aide to doctor Anthony Fauci, testified before the House's COVID
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  Speaker 10: Select Subcommittee nearly two years ago about emails he'd sent
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  Speaker 10: in February twenty twenty one, claiming that he'd learned to
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  Speaker 10: make emails disappear after he received Freedom of Information Act requests.
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  Speaker 5: As in that something.
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  Speaker 1: So this guy's now charged criminally because he's making emails
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  Speaker 1: disappear and he's bragging about it. Mister doctor Morins, excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: and if I may, we can call him doctor Moron.
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  Speaker 1: Just amazing the stuff that's going on. We'll touch on
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  Speaker 1: that with our guests as well. I think this whole
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  Speaker 1: thing is just wild. And why is doctor Fauci not
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  Speaker 1: being investigated? Well, of course he was given a pardon, right,
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  Speaker 1: joe Ed Baboso. Biden gave him a pardon, and that's
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  Speaker 1: why El Trampito says that these pardons are fake, phony,
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  Speaker 1: fraud fulgazy. He says that the auto pen is what
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  Speaker 1: gave them the pardon, and they shouldn't be legit. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's accurate or not, but I do
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  Speaker 1: know he makes a point. If it's true. Anyway, that's
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of what we're getting into tonight. I want
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  Speaker 1: you to keep it locked right here, because there's plenty
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  Speaker 1: more to come. We've got James Comy, James Comy surrendering
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  Speaker 1: himself to authorities today. I got a clip on that
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  Speaker 1: one as well that I think is worth listening to
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  Speaker 1: before we take the pause.
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  Speaker 11: Check this out with major breaking news on the new
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  Speaker 11: indictment against former FBI director James Comy. We've learned that
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  Speaker 11: Comy has just surrendered himself at a federal courthouse in Virginia,
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  Speaker 11: facing a new set of charges, all because of a
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  Speaker 11: social media post that federal officials say threatened the president's life.
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  Speaker 11: Cally posted this photo to Instagram last year, showing shells
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  Speaker 11: on a beach spelling out eighty six forty seven eighty
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  Speaker 11: six is slang for getting rid of we're cutting someone
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  Speaker 11: off at a bar. Trump, of course, is the forty
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  Speaker 11: seventh president. Prosecutors say that is a clear threat. Call me, though,
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  Speaker 11: says he is innocent.
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  Speaker 12: Well, they're back this time about a picture of seashells
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  Speaker 12: on a North Carolina beach a year ago. And this
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  Speaker 12: won't be the end of it. But nothing has changed
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  Speaker 12: with me. I'm still innocent, I'm still not afraid, and
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  Speaker 12: I still believe in the independent federal judiciary.
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  Speaker 5: So let's go that.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the voice of James Comy and the report
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  Speaker 1: by CNN. Wouldn't you know he says he's not guilty, right,
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  Speaker 1: Interesting that he's not guilty, Well, he did surrender to authorities. Today,
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  Speaker 1: former federal prosecutor and Deputy Chief of the Criminal Division
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  Speaker 1: at the Department of Justice, Doug Burr is going to
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  Speaker 1: join us shortly to explain the Supreme Court case and
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  Speaker 1: the Collier's case, as well as the James Comy's surrender
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  Speaker 1: process and the likelihood of this prosecution sticking. Will we
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  Speaker 1: see Komy behind bars for his seashells? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what Doug Burns says when he weighs in.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that and everything else that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of legal related that's going on the news. Plus, I
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  Speaker 1: want you to hear this clip that I've got from
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  Speaker 1: CN NO, not cn and CBS News, but it's the
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  Speaker 1: show sixty Minutes in Australia and it was right on time.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's these algorithms that do that.
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  Speaker 1: But I saw a post and my pastor happens to
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  Speaker 1: be from Australia and he posted something. I mentioned this
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  Speaker 1: last night and I wanted to get into it a
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  Speaker 1: little bit today. He mentioned something about how getting off
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  Speaker 1: of your screens for a couple of weeks can add
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  Speaker 1: up to a decade of health benefits for you, like
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  Speaker 1: longer life and stuff like that. And moments later I
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  Speaker 1: saw this sixty Minutes piece about brain damage in kids
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  Speaker 1: that are exposed to screens right just watching tablets, watching TV,
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  Speaker 1: that type of thing. So we're gonna get into that
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  Speaker 1: straight ahead. Then some call me talk, some Supreme Court
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  Speaker 1: talks and Doug Burns talk, as well as my thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on the Michael Jackson stuff and a little bit on
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  Speaker 1: that car fentanyl. I got a clip on that that
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  Speaker 1: I want to play for you anyway. Keep it locked
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  Speaker 1: right here and you know it's me Rich VALDESK. Don't
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  Speaker 1: move a muscle.
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  Speaker 8: This is America, all right.
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  Speaker 4: This is America. This is America. He's brown, he's bald,
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  Speaker 4: and he's breaking it down.
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  Speaker 5: Oh he's still has some what's his day, Rich Valdez?
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  Speaker 5: All right, Pamdia, welcome back, Rich Valdez.
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  Speaker 1: Keeping the company this Wednesday night, and as promised, we've
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  Speaker 1: been taking a look at some of this stuff. About
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  Speaker 1: this interesting story. It really caught my eye. I saw
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  Speaker 1: it at the top of the Drudge Report, and it
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  Speaker 1: was about the whole study on kids and their vision
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  Speaker 1: and their brains and what screens do to their brain development,
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  Speaker 1: and really it was something that really took me a back.
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  Speaker 1: And first, I've got this news report. This is a
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  Speaker 1: news report that cites the sixty Minutes Report, and then
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  Speaker 1: I have a separate clip where they dig in on
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  Speaker 1: the actual sixty minutes report. Truly, truly just a wild,
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  Speaker 1: a wild thing that I guess, for lack of a
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  Speaker 1: better word, I was just totally ignorant to this. I
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  Speaker 1: had no idea that this was something that was I
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  Speaker 1: guess real right. I always thought you became dumber watching
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  Speaker 1: TV because you were not reading, or because you were
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  Speaker 1: not doing something else that would sharpen your mind. I
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  Speaker 1: had no idea that actually looking at a screen could
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  Speaker 1: actually change the makeup of your brain.
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  Speaker 5: Listen to this.
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  Speaker 13: Can you see the screen?
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  Speaker 6: All right?
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  Speaker 3: This is five year old Rose. She was one of
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  Speaker 3: sixty kids to undergo an exhaustive study in the US
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  Speaker 3: using an MRI machine to scan the brains of kids
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  Speaker 3: aged three to five years old.
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  Speaker 4: The results truly shocking.
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  Speaker 3: Interactive screen time causes a loss of white matter in
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  Speaker 3: the brain.
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  Speaker 14: Well, in the simplest terms, we could actually refer to
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  Speaker 14: some measure of brain impairment of brain damage.
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  Speaker 3: Professor Mike Nagel from the Universe of the Sunshine Coast
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  Speaker 3: has spent a career studying child brain development.
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  Speaker 14: So white matter in the brain is a material called myelin.
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  Speaker 14: So what mylin does is it wraps around the axons
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  Speaker 14: of neurons and acts like an insulator conductor, not too
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  Speaker 14: dissimilar to the plastic coating.
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  Speaker 4: Of a wire.
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  Speaker 14: So if we're seeing definites in mylin production early in life,
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  Speaker 14: we're probably seeing deficits in neural connectivity.
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  Speaker 3: The study shows the more screen time a child is
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  Speaker 3: exposed to, the greater the loss.
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  Speaker 4: Of white matter.
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  Speaker 3: Can you remember your first reaction to those results, not
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  Speaker 3: only as a professional in this field, but as a father.
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  Speaker 14: My gut reaction as wow, I was not anticipating seeing
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  Speaker 14: anything like that. It hadn't occurred to me at the
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  Speaker 14: time that something as Little's and it said two hours
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  Speaker 14: a day was having such a profound effect on the
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  Speaker 14: white matter associated with sort of language development and by
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  Speaker 14: association literacy. It was a shock, to be honest, it
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  Speaker 14: was some good.
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  Speaker 1: Shock, huh. And that was a shock to me too.
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  Speaker 1: So I wonder here, you know, how does this whole
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  Speaker 1: thing work. Well, they got into it on this sixty
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  Speaker 1: minutes piece, and I got to tell you really eye
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  Speaker 1: opening stuff. I was blown away by how the brain
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  Speaker 1: is affected by just a couple of hours a day. Again, Remember,
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  Speaker 1: I think we all spend you know, half hour or
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  Speaker 1: an hour a day. You know, every time you're at
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  Speaker 1: a red light, or you're on the elevator, or you're
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  Speaker 1: wherever and you're scrolling and doing something, you're looking at
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: your phone. Because we do so much of our business,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: our banking, everything is done through the phone now. And
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: it just is wild to me that a small number,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: like a couple hours a day that is not very
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: different than It's not just your phone, right, I mean
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: many of us sit at a computer for multiple.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Hours a day for work. Just mind blowing.
• 18:55
  Speaker 15: Listen to this standing that there's better things to do
• 18:58
  Speaker 15: than staring at a divorce or screen. But what do
• 19:01
  Speaker 15: you think people don't realize is actually happening to us.
• 19:03
  Speaker 16: So the brain changes, right, and so what you're doing
• 19:07
  Speaker 16: changes in positive ways, and what you're not doing, of course,
• 19:09
  Speaker 16: those areas slowly atrophy or slowly go away. And unfortunately,
• 19:13
  Speaker 16: when you're on a device, you're giving up most of
• 19:15
  Speaker 16: your abilities to the device. You're using it instead of
• 19:18
  Speaker 16: using your own brain, and therefore those abilities are going
• 19:20
  Speaker 16: to be lost.
• 19:22
  Speaker 15: What's really frightening is the evidence suggests brain damage is
• 19:25
  Speaker 15: starting to occur in children as young as too. The
• 19:30
  Speaker 15: scan of this child, who spent up to three hours
• 19:33
  Speaker 15: a day on a device, shows significant deterioration.
• 19:37
  Speaker 16: So the more time a two to five year old
• 19:40
  Speaker 16: is on a device, the more i abnormal. Those white
• 19:43
  Speaker 16: matter tracts are developing in their brains, which is really
• 19:45
  Speaker 16: concerning for later on in life.
• 19:47
  Speaker 15: So parts of their brain, important parts of their brain
• 19:49
  Speaker 15: at this young age, are actually shrinking.
• 19:51
  Speaker 16: Are actually not as dance, yeah, and not as dancing
• 19:53
  Speaker 16: those areas.
• 19:55
  Speaker 15: It only gets worse the older children get and the
• 19:58
  Speaker 15: more they use screens. This brain scan is from a
• 20:01
  Speaker 15: teenager that spends six to eight hours a day on devices.
• 20:06
  Speaker 16: So the poles, if you like, or the ridges that
• 20:08
  Speaker 16: we actually see are slightly wider in teenagers, and that's
• 20:13
  Speaker 16: the same sort of thing we see in early onset dementia.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Did you hear that that's the same thing they see
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: in early onset dementia. That is wild. I mean, I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: don't know about you, but the fact that you can
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: have a two year old that's showing the same symptoms,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the same type of brain decay as someone with early
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: onset dementia, I don't know sound the alarms.
• 20:42
  Speaker 15: Being signs of dementia and Alzheimer's.
• 20:44
  Speaker 16: In teenagers, we're seeing the changes in the brain which
• 20:48
  Speaker 16: are very similar to changes that we see in early
• 20:51
  Speaker 16: diagnosis of Alzheimer's or dementia. And that increase in that
• 20:55
  Speaker 16: younger group can only be really attributed to the device,
• 21:00
  Speaker 16: So I don't know what else it could be.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Again, that is doctor Mark Williams, who is being interviewed
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: there on sixty Minutes Australia. This is crazy stuff, absolutely
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: crazy stuff. Now, the average person spends hours looking at
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: screens every day.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Children aren't exempt from that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Think of how many times you've been out to a
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: restaurant you think, oh, how well behaved you see a kid?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: You know, of those rubberized grip handles on a tablet,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: on iPad or one of those things.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: I see it all the time. It's the new pacifier.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And according to this piece, I'm looking at Yahoo, the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: digitization of entertainment education, this program, right, everything is becoming
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: digitized nowadays, and the emergence of tools like AI all
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: play roles, and how this is advancing so quickly. The
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: study found that just two hours of screen time, as
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: you heard a mention, caused a measurable loss of the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: white matter in the brain cells of children ages three
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to five. And the first person speaking was Professor Mike Nagel,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: neuro development specialists at the University of the Sunshine Coast,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and he was just as shocked as I am. Right,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: just crazy stuff to think that this is actually what's happening,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: really really really mind boggling. And again, according to the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: information you just heard, and then I'm reading, this white
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: matter in your brain essentially functions as a communications highway
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that allows the brain networks to carry out the necessary
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: functions for cognition and behavior. So just think about that,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Think about how all this screen time might be affecting
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: kids' cognition and behavior.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: That to me.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Sounds like autism. It sounds like ADHD. It sounds like
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: all these other three letter acronyms that they put on kids,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: like ODD, oppositional defiance disorder and all that stuff. So
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: fascinating stuff that's going on here. Every parent needs to
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: know about this stuff. Again, this was on sixty minutes Australia.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: A couple of really big researchers that put this together.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: And really the whole thing, honestly is just something that
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't see this coming. I guess maybe you know,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: call me crazy, call me crazy. Anyway, that was the
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: big deal on that. Now, speaking of health, something that's
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: bad for your health are drugs, right, And I think
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: we all knew that this new fentanyl that's out there,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it's called car fentanyl. This stuff is serious stuff. It's weird,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: it's wild, it's nuts. I can't think of another adjective
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: for it. So I'm just gonna let the news tell
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you check this out.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: It has an alert about a dangerous and deadly brand
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: new drug hitting Chicago streets.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Investigative reporter Mark Rivera joins us Now with more Mark Karen.
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: It's already been attributed to at least one death, a
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: man from will County and it's ten times more potent
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: than fentanyl.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: And I want you to listen to this one because
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: if it's more lethal than regular fentanyl, we got to
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: check in with the source. Brian Mulkay, he is with
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the DEA and he did an interview with WBNS Channel
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: ten TV. He's the deputy Special Agent in charge out
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: in Columbus. And listen to this interview.
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: Leading cause of death in Ohio among people eighteen to
• 24:14
  Speaker 11: forty five years old, it's not car accidents, it's drug poisoner.
• 24:18
  Speaker 17: An agency they have seen an increase in seizures of
• 24:21
  Speaker 17: carfentanyl in Ohio. That drug one hundred times more deadly
• 24:25
  Speaker 17: than fentanyl. TENNYB Reporter Kevin Landers explains what you need
• 24:28
  Speaker 17: to know to keep your kids safe.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: The DEA wants young people to remember this message.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: One pill can kill.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: While drug overdoses are down in Ohio, the potential of
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: taking a pill laced with a deadly drug remains. What
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: does the tip of a sharpened pencil have to do
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: with the deadly drug called carfentanyl. The DEA says this
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: amount could kill hundreds. This is enough to kill one.
• 25:00
  Speaker 18: You're talking literally about a micro dosage unit. Literally a
• 25:04
  Speaker 18: speck of dust that could fit on the tip of
• 25:06
  Speaker 18: a pencil.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Agent Brian McKay. He says drug dealers are concealing car
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: fetanyl ilegitimate looking pills like these, making it impossible for
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the user to determine if it's fake oxycodone or real adderall.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: So the lesson is if someone's giving you a pill,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: don't take anything unless your doctor's prescribed it.
• 25:25
  Speaker 18: Yeah, unfortunately, that is the message.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, maybe I got the throw away, but unfortunately, don't
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: buy pills on the street, don't buy adderalls, don't go
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: and cop an addy from your man's right.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: That's just wild to me.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he says, unfortunately, and it is unfortunate because
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: people are dying. But I didn't expect the DEA guy
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: to say it's unfortunate. I think DEA guys would typically say,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: don't buy drugs on the street, go ahead.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: A agents say they're finding more of these fake pills
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: coming through Ohio.
• 25:57
  Speaker 13: Just this year.
• 25:58
  Speaker 18: In the last several months, we've received several ounces.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: It's the pills they don't find that's cause for concern.
• 26:05
  Speaker 18: These drugs are more deadly than we've ever seen in
• 26:09
  Speaker 18: the history of the drug trade. You know, no young
• 26:11
  Speaker 18: person should have to lose their life for a mistake.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I agree, no young person should have to lose their
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: life for a mistake. And this is reported as a
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: weapons grade chemical called carfentanyl. I was reported in the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Daily Mail just yesterday. Last week, it was reported by CNN.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: And again, this has been going on for twenty years,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: this opioid crisis easily, and now we're finding out about
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: this new thing, this car fentanyl again, weapons grade chemical
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: authorready say a thousand times more potent than morphine, one
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: hundred times stronger than fentanyl, and it's making a resurgence
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: across the United States, killing hundreds.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: Most people have no idea what they're getting into.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: And a lot of this is coming at the same
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: time as a crackdown by the Chinese government, according to them,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: on the sale of the precursor chemicals used to make fentanyl.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: So since we're cracking down on fentanyl, now we see
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: an increase in car fentanyl car fe nta nil car.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: Fentanyl crazy stuff.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: And obviously these regulations that they're putting in China are
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: likely prompting the traffickers in Mexico to use car fedinyl
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: to cut their product or to boost the potency of
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: a weakend version of fentanyl that they're using and trying
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: to sell here in the United States. And that's how
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: this whole thing boils down. Let me tell you, it's
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: a scary thing. I'm glad I don't use drugs, and
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I never took adderall from ADHD. I just
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: forget stuff and show up late and go on to engines.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: But it really is unfortunate. I actually met somebody once
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: who lost the kid to this, and it was heartbreaking. Anyway,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the DEA says back in twenty twenty five, they identified
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: some labs saying this stuff is fourteen hundred times more
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: lethal in some cases, really really wild man. Anyway, I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: want to continue our conversation. I just wanted to bring
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: you up to speed on some of that stuff because
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's an important thing ultimately here. The bottom
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: line is the DA is doing a good job. I
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: believe they're doing a good job. They're trying to stop
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: what they can do. In recent months, they've documented several
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: large siezures of car fentanyl. In October, the DEA in
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: LA found six hundred and twenty eight thousand pills containing
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: car fentanyl. In September, they found and seized more than
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand counterfeit M thirty pills which contained that as well.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And they say it's actually a mixture of car fentanyl
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: and tailanol, or the active ingredient in talanhol. I see
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: them minefit. That is some crazy stuff, all right. Anyway,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: we're gonna take a pause right here. We're gonna come
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: right back and we're gonna hear from our buddy Doug Burns,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: former chief of the Criminal Division in New York, Deputy Chief,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and he's gonna break down the Supreme Court case, the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: James Comy arrest, the leering centers, and so much more.
• 29:34
  Speaker 19: Keep it locked right here. It's Valdez, This is America,
• 29:47
  Speaker 19: This is America.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: President's m J. Rock, mister President, welcome to the program.
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: Service. Well, thank you, rich and thank you for everything.
• 30:02
  Speaker 20: I know you very well, and I have I listen,
• 30:04
  Speaker 20: but I have a lot of people that listen and
• 30:07
  Speaker 20: they love your show and I appreciate it very much.
• 30:10
  Speaker 21: Right, we were talking about how busy you were this morning.
• 30:13
  Speaker 21: James Comy was in court. He's self surrendered. He's now
• 30:15
  Speaker 21: been charged a second time, this time over a social
• 30:18
  Speaker 21: media post with Seashells that said eighty six forty seven.
• 30:21
  Speaker 21: Do you really think that he was endangering your life
• 30:23
  Speaker 21: or threatening your life with that one?
• 30:25
  Speaker 20: Well, if anybody knows anything about crime, they know eighty six.
• 30:30
  Speaker 20: You know, in eighties it's a mob term for kill them.
• 30:34
  Speaker 20: You know, you ever see the movies eighty six the
• 30:38
  Speaker 20: mobster says to one of his wonderful associates, eighty six
• 30:42
  Speaker 20: that means kill him.
• 30:43
  Speaker 22: It's I think of it as a mob term.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 30:46
  Speaker 20: People think of it as something having to do with disappearing.
• 30:49
  Speaker 20: But the mob uses that term to say when they
• 30:52
  Speaker 20: want to kill somebody. They say eighty six, the son
• 30:57
  Speaker 20: of again. I'm trying to keep the language they said clear.
• 31:00
  Speaker 20: They don't use that term son of again. They use
• 31:03
  Speaker 20: another term, but that's a mob term for killing.
• 31:05
  Speaker 22: Yeah, but you really need the like was in danger? Probably,
• 31:08
  Speaker 22: I don't know, you know, based on what I'm seeing
• 31:11
  Speaker 22: at Yeah, the.
• 31:14
  Speaker 20: People like Komi have created a tremendous danger I think
• 31:17
  Speaker 20: for politicians and others. You know, Comy is a dirty cup.
• 31:22
  Speaker 20: He's a very dirty cup. He cheated on the elections.
• 31:26
  Speaker 20: He tried to help Hillary Clinton, as you know, he
• 31:29
  Speaker 20: dismissed a lot of things that he should have proceeded with.
• 31:33
  Speaker 22: I wasn't involved, but he should have proceeded with.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: No.
• 31:35
  Speaker 22: He's a dirty cup. He's a crooked man.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, he goes. Welcome back, it's Rich Valdez.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: We've got our special guest, Doug Burns joining us. Doug
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Burns is a regularly here on the program. You know
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Doug Burns. He was Deputy Chief of the Criminal Division
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: in the Department of Justice. He spent thirty eight years
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: as a criminal defense lawyer, and he's our guest right now.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Doug Burns. Welcome back, sir.
• 31:57
  Speaker 13: Thank you, sir, appreciate it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: My pleasure. Doug Burns. I always come to you with
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: my legal questions because not just because you are my
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: radio attorney, but because I really do enjoy your legal analysis.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: You have a way of being able to make it
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: make a lot of sense, and I think the audience
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: appreciates that. And there's a few things that are in
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: the news today. One of the things that I wrote
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: down that I wanted to talk to you about is
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: this big story of James Comy that we talked a
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: little bit about yesterday. With respect to the case. And
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: now there's some legal scholars saying, well, you know, don't
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: get too excited because this is not, in fact a
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: slam dunk for the Department of Justice. There actually may
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: be some constitutional issues here with him just expressing free speech.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: So talk to us about that your thoughts.
• 32:46
  Speaker 13: No, I agree that it's not necessarily a slam dunk.
• 32:50
  Speaker 23: I myself have been in threats threat cases against the president.
• 32:55
  Speaker 23: The Secret Service would come in with a letter. You know,
• 32:58
  Speaker 23: I'm going to blow your brains out. This is the
• 33:00
  Speaker 23: type of rifle I'm gonna use. I mean really serious stuff.
• 33:03
  Speaker 23: And so here, you know, let's just go over with
• 33:05
  Speaker 23: the fact pattern really quick. The former director of the
• 33:08
  Speaker 23: FBI sees seashells on the beach that say eighty six
• 33:12
  Speaker 23: forty seven and.
• 33:14
  Speaker 13: He posts it to the world.
• 33:17
  Speaker 23: Now, the point is rich, it's not like a quick answer, oh,
• 33:22
  Speaker 23: is it constitutional or not, because that begs the question
• 33:25
  Speaker 23: that we're discussing. It is a constitutional prosecution if it's
• 33:30
  Speaker 23: a threat against the president of the United States, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 23: it could be deemed unconstitutional. If it's not a threat,
• 33:37
  Speaker 23: then it's free speech. And that's where you can reasonably
• 33:40
  Speaker 23: debate this intelligent discussions. I'll give you a couple of
• 33:44
  Speaker 23: the prosecution points, and then i'll give you a couple
• 33:46
  Speaker 23: of the defense points.
• 33:47
  Speaker 13: Really quick.
• 33:48
  Speaker 23: The prosecution points are Wait a minute. This guy was
• 33:51
  Speaker 23: the head of the federal of your investigation. He was
• 33:54
  Speaker 23: the United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York.
• 33:57
  Speaker 23: He was Deputy Attorney General of the United States, and
• 34:01
  Speaker 23: he knows full well that eighty six means forget the
• 34:05
  Speaker 23: restaurant connotation, which is eighty six the piece I'm talking
• 34:09
  Speaker 23: in law enforcement, eighty six often means get rid of somebody.
• 34:12
  Speaker 13: So it's very disingenuous for him to claim, oh.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Have nosed like assassination exactly.
• 34:19
  Speaker 23: So reasonable people could argue that this is, in fact
• 34:24
  Speaker 23: some type of threat against the president's is The other
• 34:27
  Speaker 23: side says, wait a minute, you're getting way over these
• 34:29
  Speaker 23: ski tips. You know, all it is is a vague reference,
• 34:33
  Speaker 23: and I think it will be a little bit of
• 34:34
  Speaker 23: a horse race. But there's no snap answer, is my
• 34:37
  Speaker 23: answer to your question, No snap answer to is the
• 34:40
  Speaker 23: constitutional is it not? It all depends on whether it's
• 34:44
  Speaker 23: a threat, because if it is, it comes outside of
• 34:47
  Speaker 23: free speech, or is it not a threat, in which
• 34:51
  Speaker 23: case it's covered by free speech.
• 34:53
  Speaker 13: That's the legal test.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, Doug Burns, I think this is a
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: big deal for a lot of people, because for me,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I don't like James Comee. I'm not a fan of
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: James Kommy. I've been critical of him ever since he
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: came out with his famous comy memo for Hillary Clinton,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: and you know, circumvented the law and the Constitution. In
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: my opinion. However, I talk a lot of smack, right.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I'm a big free speech guy, and I don't necessarily
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: call to eighty six anybody, but I might say something like,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: should a missile find the Iya Tola? Oh my goodness, Well,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe it was something he earned. Well, I
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: don't want to go ahead, Yeah.
• 35:30
  Speaker 23: I don't want to be corny, but I have tremendous
• 35:32
  Speaker 23: respect for the fact that you'd take him the higher road,
• 35:34
  Speaker 23: because the fact of the matter is, as a thirty
• 35:37
  Speaker 23: year old assistant United States Attorney, the Secret Service came
• 35:40
  Speaker 23: in and put a letter on my desk, and I'm
• 35:42
  Speaker 23: repeating myself, President Reagan, I am going to blow you away.
• 35:46
  Speaker 23: I'm going to blow your brains out. Here's the rifle
• 35:49
  Speaker 23: I'm going to use we didn't prosecute that case. And
• 35:51
  Speaker 23: I remember saying to my superpowsor why not? He said,
• 35:54
  Speaker 23: there's been a propensity to have these letters come in
• 35:57
  Speaker 23: from these sort of wackos. And I turned to the
• 36:00
  Speaker 23: Secret Service agent. You're going to laugh thirty years old.
• 36:02
  Speaker 23: Let's say he was sixty. And I said, well, wait
• 36:05
  Speaker 23: a minute, President Reagan's coming to New York in two weeks.
• 36:08
  Speaker 23: What about that. He winked at me, and he goes,
• 36:10
  Speaker 23: we're going to take him to lunch.
• 36:12
  Speaker 13: Relax.
• 36:14
  Speaker 23: And the point is they were going to keep a very,
• 36:16
  Speaker 23: very very close eye on him. So this case, here's
• 36:19
  Speaker 23: where I come down on this, and I think you
• 36:21
  Speaker 23: and the audience find it interesting. The case objectively, standing
• 36:25
  Speaker 23: on its own, is not really particularly strong. Quite candidly, however,
• 36:31
  Speaker 23: it's pretty hard to sit there and listen to all
• 36:34
  Speaker 23: these liberal legal pundits legal pundits lecturing us how serious
• 36:41
  Speaker 23: it was when Donald Trump took these loans out, when
• 36:44
  Speaker 23: he paid back every cent. People are having a tough
• 36:47
  Speaker 23: time separating that out. But in fairness and under the
• 36:52
  Speaker 23: high road, it's really two separate discussions. All the point
• 36:55
  Speaker 23: very important, which I'm going to term poetic justice.
• 37:00
  Speaker 13: If that's the right term.
• 37:01
  Speaker 23: Jim Comy did a lot of things wrong, in my opinion,
• 37:04
  Speaker 23: way way, way more serious than this eighty six forty
• 37:07
  Speaker 23: seven thing.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: And let's help everybody understand. And why isn't he being
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: prosecuted for those things?
• 37:12
  Speaker 23: Primarily great question, primarily because of statute of limitations.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden, meaning it happened during Biden's term and twenty.
• 37:19
  Speaker 13: Five years ago for the most part.
• 37:21
  Speaker 23: And while it's true, without getting in the weeds, and
• 37:24
  Speaker 23: you and I have discussed this many times, there are
• 37:26
  Speaker 23: ways to bring forward a statute of limitations claim that
• 37:30
  Speaker 23: an overt act was within the last five years. And
• 37:33
  Speaker 23: I've been involved in these rodeos for decades. But the
• 37:35
  Speaker 23: fact of the matter is he has been able to skate,
• 37:38
  Speaker 23: for lack of a better term, on a lot of
• 37:40
  Speaker 23: more serious stuff. So it's also entirely fair to say, well,
• 37:44
  Speaker 23: if they're being a little aggressive with this particular excuse
• 37:47
  Speaker 23: me prosecution, I can understand why because of what he
• 37:51
  Speaker 23: did with the Fizest stuff and all the anti Trump
• 37:54
  Speaker 23: stuff and what the Bureau was doing when you had
• 37:59
  Speaker 23: senior FBI official saying Trump won't be president. Will make
• 38:03
  Speaker 23: sure that doesn't happen. I mean, that's outrageous. So the
• 38:06
  Speaker 23: point is I have a mixed analysis, but I want
• 38:09
  Speaker 23: to be crystal clear and I respect you taking the
• 38:12
  Speaker 23: high road. The case itself is really not that big
• 38:14
  Speaker 23: of a.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Deal, Thank you, Doug Burns. And ultimately here now, we
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: also don't know if there is a not to be
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: cliche or pney, but a trump card, right Cash Mattel
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and Attorney General Blanche both alluded to this is an
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: investigation that's been going on for ten or eleven months.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: There is a possibility, I would presume that exists that
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: somewhere along the way they found some sort of smoking
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: gun of James Comey's or something leading to him saying
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to post this and this is some sort
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: of coded message to a hitman that owes me a favor.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Sounds like a stretch, I would agree, But that would
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: be the lynchpin in the case like this or no.
• 38:51
  Speaker 23: Yeah, Well, let's go into a couple of hypotheticals with
• 38:54
  Speaker 23: the cap yeah, that we're speculating and the audience gonna
• 38:56
  Speaker 23: appreciate that. Let's assume argue went though for the sake
• 38:59
  Speaker 23: of argument, as we like to say, that there's some
• 39:02
  Speaker 23: evidence that he put the shells there. Let's assume there
• 39:05
  Speaker 23: are some TEFA texts or emails. Again, I'm not suggesting
• 39:09
  Speaker 23: this is the case. I have no idea, but I think,
• 39:11
  Speaker 23: you know, like Sherlock Holmes, like Colombo, and I just
• 39:15
  Speaker 23: read a book about Peter falk coincidentally. The point is,
• 39:18
  Speaker 23: you know there could be some other information. I mean,
• 39:21
  Speaker 23: I think you're onto something. So you know, my big
• 39:25
  Speaker 23: thing is what were the circumstances under which that was
• 39:27
  Speaker 23: posted on the beach, Because it's very easy.
• 39:31
  Speaker 13: Here's the thing that's so interesting.
• 39:32
  Speaker 23: Jurors, and you've heard me say this so many times,
• 39:34
  Speaker 23: are very very smart. So if you had twelve jurors
• 39:37
  Speaker 23: outside in the hallway, hypothetically and he said, let me
• 39:41
  Speaker 23: ask you this to the collective group, when.
• 39:43
  Speaker 13: James Comy cidy, he had no idea.
• 39:46
  Speaker 23: That this meant anything like that. How many of you
• 39:49
  Speaker 23: believe that? Trust me when I say that none of
• 39:51
  Speaker 23: them would raise their hand. No one believes that he
• 39:54
  Speaker 23: doesn't know what that is. And that could also hurt him,
• 39:57
  Speaker 23: by the way, in my opinion.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm guessing that's why they he got a
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: grand jury indictment in the first place against the former
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: FBI director. Last point here is I think that James
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: call me. Is he surrendered himself today in court? He's there,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: you know, saying, hey, lock me up. He's under arrest.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Whatever the case is, I would presume from your experience,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: they would handle him as I guess, like a VIP
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: case where you could surrender yourself and they don't handcuff
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: you and do all that stuff, or just go through
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the whole process.
• 40:28
  Speaker 23: Well, there's two discussions. One is the more formal one,
• 40:31
  Speaker 23: which is bail. Is he a risk of flight?
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: No?
• 40:35
  Speaker 23: Is he a danger to the community No, So therefore
• 40:38
  Speaker 23: he's released in his own recognizance. On the other part,
• 40:42
  Speaker 23: it's actually very interesting and tracks into a beef that
• 40:46
  Speaker 23: all of us have, which is you have tremendous discretion
• 40:50
  Speaker 23: whether to arrest somebody or let them surrender. They let
• 40:54
  Speaker 23: him surrender today. They didn't let Roger Stone surrender, did they.
• 40:57
  Speaker 23: They arrested him at six am and leg irons on him.
• 41:02
  Speaker 23: That's a total disgrace. I remember one of the more
• 41:04
  Speaker 23: disgraceful things, which was an assistant US attorney in the Southern.
• 41:08
  Speaker 13: District of New York, who will remain nameless. But he
• 41:10
  Speaker 13: was terrible.
• 41:11
  Speaker 23: And my client was a seventy plus year old female
• 41:15
  Speaker 23: in a counterfeit clothing case. Okay, And he calls me
• 41:19
  Speaker 23: at six am.
• 41:20
  Speaker 13: I was out of town. They were arrested, and.
• 41:22
  Speaker 23: I said to him, I told you ten times I
• 41:24
  Speaker 23: would surrender them to the building.
• 41:26
  Speaker 13: Okay, and he goes, I like to see people in
• 41:28
  Speaker 13: the handcuffs.
• 41:29
  Speaker 23: What a disgrace. So the point is they're not treating
• 41:33
  Speaker 23: him as a VIP. They're doing what they're supposed to do.
• 41:36
  Speaker 23: Roger Stone should have been told show up at the
• 41:39
  Speaker 23: courthouse period, end of discussion. No leg irons, no twenty
• 41:44
  Speaker 23: agents with guns arresting them at six am, none of that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 23: In any type of political case, you surrender and that's
• 41:52
  Speaker 23: the end of it. So here the Trump administration is
• 41:54
  Speaker 23: actually the one sort of taking the high roads.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: There is thing yeah, being gracious, because honestly I would
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I would make the case if I were there, and
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I'd say, well, if the charge is threatening to kill
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: the president, and this guy is a former top cop
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: in the federal government, maybe he's armed, maybe he's got
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: an arsenal, I don't know, Let's bring the swat team
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: in let's take him out like we took out Stone,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: just to be safe.
• 42:13
  Speaker 23: But it's really more about the comparison to Stone than
• 42:16
  Speaker 23: anything else on the anger. Because again, just so the
• 42:19
  Speaker 23: audience is clear, the correct move in Stone and in
• 42:24
  Speaker 23: this one is show up at the courthouse. And I
• 42:27
  Speaker 23: will tell you a great anecdote. And Bruce just passed
• 42:29
  Speaker 23: away fairly recently. Bruce Cutler. He represented John Gotti, right, yeah,
• 42:34
  Speaker 23: huge organized crime boss. So they arrested him, which is
• 42:37
  Speaker 23: certainly well within you know, reason, And Bruce stands there,
• 42:41
  Speaker 23: this is great rich and he goes.
• 42:44
  Speaker 13: This is a quarter. Okay, I just pulled this out
• 42:46
  Speaker 13: of my pocket.
• 42:47
  Speaker 23: All you have to do is put this in the
• 42:49
  Speaker 23: little payphone and call me and I would have brought
• 42:52
  Speaker 23: mister Gotti to the courthouse and it was very effective.
• 42:55
  Speaker 23: So the point is, again John Gotti was a huge
• 42:58
  Speaker 23: mob figure. These are political cases. Everybody take it down
• 43:02
  Speaker 23: a notch what went on with Stone. And I know
• 43:05
  Speaker 23: I'm repeating myself, but I really want people to know this.
• 43:08
  Speaker 23: You don't arrest a guy like Roger Stone at his
• 43:12
  Speaker 23: age and the charges lying under earth and the guy
• 43:16
  Speaker 23: has no criminal history or background, and he's not a
• 43:19
  Speaker 23: risk to anybody, and he's not a risk of flight.
• 43:22
  Speaker 23: You don't go there at six am with twenty agents
• 43:25
  Speaker 23: with guns.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes all the sense in the world to me. Now,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Doug Burns, I want to pivot to get your opinion
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: on a couple of other things, because there's a few
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: a bunch of legal things going on in the news.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Doctor David Moorns, he's a former senior advisor to doctor
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Anthony Faucio's indicted in a federal grand jury in Maryland.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: He's seventy eight years old. He's accused of conspiring to
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: hide official communications. And I'm gonna go out on a
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: limb here in my conjecture and say, this is likely
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: him being a fall guy, right. I don't think that
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: he was the mastermind behind anything that involved doctor Fauci.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: But that's just me being, you know, a speculative and
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: be I don't trust about you. So tell me what
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: you think about this one.
• 44:07
  Speaker 22: A and B.
• 44:07
  Speaker 23: A you're correct, but B fauct she was pardoned, Okay,
• 44:11
  Speaker 23: So that's that's what's so crazy about this.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I've said an oriemptive pardon right from all future world, which.
• 44:19
  Speaker 23: Is really what I've said before, and I'll say it again,
• 44:23
  Speaker 23: it was absolutely I never thought I would see, let
• 44:26
  Speaker 23: me be melodramatic, in my lifetime, a situation where people
• 44:30
  Speaker 23: were shouted down to such a degree where even the
• 44:34
  Speaker 23: mere suggestion of I'll just paraphrase I would like to discuss,
• 44:39
  Speaker 23: have an intelligent discussion as to where this virus originated.
• 44:43
  Speaker 23: I'd like to debate, for example, was it really from
• 44:46
  Speaker 23: a wet market or was it possibly from a laboratory?
• 44:50
  Speaker 23: And you were hysterically shouted down and not even allowed
• 44:54
  Speaker 23: to raise the issue. Absolutely breathaking in America where we
• 44:58
  Speaker 23: have free speech. Tying together our earlier discussion, so it
• 45:03
  Speaker 23: was just amazing what they did. But it was very
• 45:05
  Speaker 23: clear to me as a try lawyer, as a former
• 45:07
  Speaker 23: assistant US attorney, that there was plenty of evidence that
• 45:11
  Speaker 23: untruthfulness was going around and that it did in fact
• 45:14
  Speaker 23: originate in the laboratory in the WU hand lab. I
• 45:18
  Speaker 23: didn't think you had to be the proverbial rocket scientist
• 45:20
  Speaker 23: to figure that out. And it was really a disgraceful episode.
• 45:24
  Speaker 23: I'll also add really quick, same thing with the vaccine.
• 45:27
  Speaker 23: You were not allowed to question that on any level.
• 45:30
  Speaker 23: You were shouted down hysterically with how can you deny science.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I met a couple I met a couple of doctors
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: during that time that told me that their board, who
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: certified them as board certified, threatened them that if they
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: came out on any media speaking about against what their
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: official line was, that they were in risk of violating
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: their board certification. Doug Burn's stand by right There're gonna
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: take a quick pause. I'm gonna come right back. I
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: want to talk about your thoughts on the Louisianni versus
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Cala six three decisions from Scotus, as well as the
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: just the procedural stuff with the quote unquote leering center,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: the learning center without the pen in Minnesota, big fraud case.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I know you have a lot of background in fraud cases.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: So Keeople locked right here on migos. We're coming right
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: back with Doug Burns, former chief of the Criminal Division
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: at the Department of Justice, thirty eight years as a
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: trial lawyer, defense lawyer, and he's our guest right now.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Rich Veld does coming right back with Doug Burns.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: This is America, This is America or primal noumerods. Bara
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: Richveld is e s us America.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Awara, well as we continue our conversation with Doug Burns,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: former Deputy Chief of the Criminal Division in New York.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: He was also a trial lawyer a defense attorney for
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: nearly four decades. The guy knows what he's talking about.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: He's one of my favorites to bounce things off of.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm glad he's here now. Doug Burns. President Trump
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: tweeting or I should say truth thing a little while
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: ago on his truth social account giving kudos to the
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Supreme Court for a six' to three decision in the
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: case THAT i referenced, Before louisiana Versus calais six' three
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: decision on jerry mandering. And redistricting what can you tell us?
• 47:28
  Speaker 13: About, it well it's analogous to the line of cases about.
• 47:32
  Speaker 23: Affirmative Action Chief justice, roberts said you don't rectify or
• 47:36
  Speaker 23: remedy racial discrimination by engaging in. More discrimination so here in,
• 47:40
  Speaker 23: this Case The supreme court said. Quite simply and it's
• 47:44
  Speaker 23: mildly troubling that it's on. Ideological lines the three so
• 47:48
  Speaker 23: called liberal justices. Descend them they're saying you can't draw
• 47:52
  Speaker 23: congressional districts based on, the race and that seems entirely logical.
• 47:57
  Speaker 23: To me and then of course we go right into
• 48:00
  Speaker 23: the same exact, tiresome routine which is everybody jumps, right
• 48:05
  Speaker 23: in they start playing the race card from.
• 48:06
  Speaker 13: The bottom of the. Deck ignorantly that's the.
• 48:09
  Speaker 23: Key word they want to disenfranchise minorities and has nothing
• 48:13
  Speaker 23: to do. With that they're saying that from this, day
• 48:17
  Speaker 23: forward we're not going to be drawing districts based, on
• 48:20
  Speaker 23: race because that Violates. The constitution the point is from
• 48:24
  Speaker 23: thirty thousand FEET and i appreciated your.
• 48:26
  Speaker 13: Compliment EARLIER how i try to. Simplify stuff i've learned
• 48:29
  Speaker 13: that from.
• 48:30
  Speaker 23: My father the point is is that it was entirely
• 48:36
  Speaker 23: noble to want to rectify what went on in. This
• 48:39
  Speaker 23: country it's Slavery At Jim. Crow laws we, get that
• 48:42
  Speaker 23: but it comes a point in time where you don't
• 48:45
  Speaker 23: want to do it. In reverse is the point from
• 48:49
  Speaker 23: thirty Thousand feet and so, you know any discrimination. Is
• 48:53
  Speaker 23: discrimination SO if i apply for, a Job Hypothetically doug
• 48:56
  Speaker 23: burns with my CREDENTIALS and i lose to somebody on,
• 49:02
  Speaker 23: racial grounds hypothetical in the law, school qussroom there's a
• 49:05
  Speaker 23: memo That Says doug burns clearly had, better qualifications but
• 49:09
  Speaker 23: we're hiring.
• 49:09
  Speaker 13: The minority that's what we want.
• 49:11
  Speaker 21: To do.
• 49:12
  Speaker 23: That's, discrimination obviously it's. Reverse discrimination that's the term you
• 49:16
  Speaker 23: would apply. To it so in affirmative action and this
• 49:20
  Speaker 23: case we get into these ideological fault lines once again
• 49:24
  Speaker 23: where the left wants to characterize it as you want to.
• 49:27
  Speaker 13: Disenfranchise minorities it's.
• 49:28
  Speaker 23: Really kind of outrageous what the Rhetoric Is, HAKEEM jeffries
• 49:32
  Speaker 23: i call him out, by name pretty surprising a lot
• 49:34
  Speaker 23: of the stuff that. He says, and again, to me
• 49:38
  Speaker 23: the decision is a, logical one saying you can't discriminate.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: In, reverse yeah, YOU know i think you're one hundred,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: percent right and NOT because i agree with you per.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: SE right i agree with the merits of, the case
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: which is the. Constitution right and my understanding of it
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: has always been that there are certain things you can't
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: discriminate on one way or. The, OTHER exactly i can't
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: hire you because, you're BLACK and i can't not hire
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: you because. You're black we shouldn't. Do That and i'm
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: just using black as, an example hispanic or white or.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Anything ELSE and i feel like this is the part
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: that gets lost in all this because of really good,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: political rhetoric right, where, again.
• 50:15
  Speaker 13: Yeah this is. The key.
• 50:19
  Speaker 23: The left has, been able for some reason to really
• 50:23
  Speaker 23: just come in with all kinds. Of messaging it's a
• 50:26
  Speaker 23: little too glib, to, say oh, you know the liberal
• 50:29
  Speaker 23: media they block for them like a front four on a.
• 50:32
  Speaker 23: FOOTBALL field, i mean they do to. Some extent but
• 50:34
  Speaker 23: the reality is is they really are very good at
• 50:37
  Speaker 23: getting the. Average Person and i'm not being pompous, to, think,
• 50:41
  Speaker 23: oh wow you know this really is going to hurt
• 50:44
  Speaker 23: minorities in their effort, to vote and they are.
• 50:47
  Speaker 13: Very SUCCESSFUL and I guess i would Fall through republicans to.
• 50:51
  Speaker 23: Some EXTENT and i think i've, heard you, you know
• 50:53
  Speaker 23: refer to this for not being able to counter that logically,
• 50:57
  Speaker 23: by saying we're not trying to. Disenfranchise it we just want,
• 51:01
  Speaker 23: to prevent as you just, put, it perfectly reverse discrimination
• 51:05
  Speaker 23: of any sort under, our constitution.
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: You Know.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Doug burns and this is not a. Legal point this
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: is more a. Rhetorical POINT but i think the reason
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: the left has this success is because they base their
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: arguments on a common, sense premise and the law is
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: not always based on. Common sense it's based on. Common
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: law so, you know if you have an understanding of
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: the framework of, the constitution that you know the guidelines we're,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: working in then you play within the within those with.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Those guidelines but when you, don't care you, don't KNOW
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: then i could make all sorts of cases, right, saying
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: okay if your feelings, are hurt then you have a
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: right to go smack them in the face because they hurt, your,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Feelings right because there's, no guidelines so you're led by
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: with whatever you feel like being.
• 51:44
  Speaker 13: Led by, it also emotion enters into.
• 51:46
  Speaker 23: The equation emotion and anger very often override logic and
• 51:51
  Speaker 23: reason and.
• 51:52
  Speaker 13: Common sense you know that happens all.
• 51:55
  Speaker 23: The time and then the very, troubling one which is important,
• 51:58
  Speaker 23: to note is this, identity politics playing the race cards
• 52:02
  Speaker 23: from the bottom of. The deck in, other words, YOU
• 52:05
  Speaker 23: know i don't mind a legitimate complaint, of racism, Of
• 52:08
  Speaker 23: course i'll listen to that all. Day long but when
• 52:11
  Speaker 23: you say about let's Say a, muslim PERSON if i
• 52:15
  Speaker 23: literally said they stole one, thousand dollars, and assume for
• 52:19
  Speaker 23: the sake of my classroom hypothetical that they did in
• 52:22
  Speaker 23: fact steal a, THOUSAND dollars i would nevertheless on in
• 52:26
  Speaker 23: min circle he Is.
• 52:27
  Speaker 13: Anti muslim can you believe? That guy and they get away?
• 52:31
  Speaker 13: With that and that's.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Very, troubling yeah it. Truly is AND again I think
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: i look at some of the people that are really good,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: at IT and i don't want to go down a political,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: rabbit HOLE but i just think it's worthy. Of note
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Is That ZARON. Mamdani aoc these guys are. Our, Expert
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: yeah i'm making this emotional plea where it almost it
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: makes sense if you've never Read the constitution or you
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: really don't have a sense of how the law works in,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: any way, you, say, yeah wow that's a. Black neighborhood
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: why shouldn't they have a Black cong why wouldn't they
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: want to? Have representation they're very effective.
• 53:04
  Speaker 23: At it as, we're discussing it's. Really remarkable and look
• 53:08
  Speaker 23: At elon omok. For example we're not going down that.
• 53:10
  Speaker 23: Rabbit hole, you know she is able to defend against
• 53:13
  Speaker 23: some pretty serious stuff just on the grounds that whatever,
• 53:16
  Speaker 23: YOU say i don't care what sentence comes out of,
• 53:18
  Speaker 23: your mouth You're.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Anti, muslim yeah, You Know doug burns Speaking of Bill,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: and omar because, you're right. She does she. Defends them
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: that's a lot. Of things and then now she's just
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: kind of shrugging it off. Her shoulder this there was.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: A raid we saw the audio earlier of the raid
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: On The Quality. Learning center they forgot the end the.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Leering Center and, i'm wondering why WOULD the fbi rate
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: a place that's been Closed? Since january how does that
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  Speaker 1: work IN the i guess the investigation or the prosecution
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: of these. Fraud, crimes, yeah no very.
• 53:49
  Speaker 23: Simple answer they got some information that there is, material
• 53:52
  Speaker 23: there notwithstanding the passage at, the time, you know that could.
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  Speaker 13: Help them but by, the way what.
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  Speaker 23: An amazing additional anecdotal example of exactly what, we're discussing
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  Speaker 23: Which is walls comes out and he goes and he
• 54:05
  Speaker 23: stuff's like taking credit for.
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  Speaker 4: What happens.
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  Speaker 23: That's unbelievable but the more, troubling point which is right
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  Speaker 23: in the wheelhouse of what, we're discussing is he's probably
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  Speaker 23: going to get away with that to SOME extent x number.
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  Speaker 23: Of people and you can fill in. THE number i
• 54:20
  Speaker 23: can't x number.
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  Speaker 13: Of people oh look At what. Walls did isn't?
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  Speaker 1: That, great yeah it's amazing that this is the same
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  Speaker 1: governor that had to suspend his reelection bid because of this. Whole,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: nonsense right he literally had to bow out, of this
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  Speaker 1: and now he's just trying to take whatever win he
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: can when it's not even. His Win, DOUG burns i
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  Speaker 1: think you're a spot. On there so when it comes down,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: to this who ultimately gets he's going to be criminal prosecutions.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: For fraud i'm guessing that's what ends. Up happening they
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: try to find the person and is it become a
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: money laundering thing or they? Hiding money how have you
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: seen these things? Play out because it seems like you're
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: lying about paperwork and buildings and services that are, being rendered,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: you know without. Being, rendered right.
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  Speaker 23: Two parts, to it and. You're right it's always the
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  Speaker 23: case in. Four cases you have the fraud against whatever
• 55:06
  Speaker 23: program you're, talking about. You know and by, the way
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  Speaker 23: you go back to a cross REFERENCE. With covid when
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  Speaker 23: there's a, big crisis fraud often ramps away up because
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  Speaker 23: there's more money, flowing, Around.
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  Speaker 13: Obviously but the, point is so you have the fraud
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  Speaker 13: and the obtaining of money.
• 55:22
  Speaker 23: Through fraud but then, you're right and then you go
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  Speaker 23: to THE second hlf of, the equation which is financial
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  Speaker 23: transactions with the proceeds of, a crime popularly known as.
• 55:31
  Speaker 23: Money laundering it's interesting because money laundering years ago used to, be,
• 55:35
  Speaker 23: like oh those drug dealers are putting money through that,
• 55:38
  Speaker 23: car wash, you know, YadA YadA that's, money laundering. That
• 55:42
  Speaker 23: is but everybody should understand THAT if i do a
• 55:45
  Speaker 23: CRIME and i get money THE minute i put that
• 55:48
  Speaker 23: money in, a bank that's. Money laundering it's a financial
• 55:50
  Speaker 23: transaction with the proceeds of. The crime and, you're right
• 55:53
  Speaker 23: so it's going to be those two parts, of it
• 55:56
  Speaker 23: fraud against programs and money laundering.
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  Speaker 1: Financial transactions based on, your expertise your experience on doing
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of, this stuff especially white collar stuff in,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: your career HOW successful i, MEAN overall i THINK the
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: dj always has a ninety five plus percent close rate on.
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  Speaker 1: These things but how successful do you think these prosecutions
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  Speaker 1: are going.
• 56:16
  Speaker 23: TO be i think in the end they will be
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  Speaker 23: successful because they'll doobt the eyes and cross. The t's,
• 56:21
  Speaker 23: you know there's a lot of cliches that get, thrown
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  Speaker 23: AROUND but i always laugh because cliches exist for a
• 56:25
  Speaker 23: reason because often. They're true so a lot of the
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  Speaker 23: cliches are Like the feds really have. Tremendous resources, that's
• 56:31
  Speaker 23: true and Once the feds bring, a case it's usually
• 56:35
  Speaker 23: pretty serious and they've, you know put. It, together well
• 56:38
  Speaker 23: that's also true to a, great extent and that's why
• 56:41
  Speaker 23: your statistic that you cited is something like a ninety
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  Speaker 23: percent you.
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  Speaker 6: Know.
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  Speaker 23: SUCCESS right a lot of the cases servers off. Like
• 56:47
  Speaker 23: guilty today's obviously, not trials but the trial rates over.
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  Speaker 23: Ninety percent so to answer, your question finally we from.
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  Speaker 23: OUT avoiding i think they will.
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  Speaker 1: Be, successful yeah and you're right. ABOUT that i had
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: a friend made some bad choices and got prosecuted BY,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: the feds and they offered him a deal and, he,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: SAID no i didn't do this because he really didn't
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: feel like he.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: Did something and.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: He said when he went, to trial it was the
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: most amazing display of legal firepower he'd. Ever seen, first chair.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Second chair they brought in a lot. OF attorneys i have.
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  Speaker 13: A great analyze. THIS joke i think your friend. Is
• 57:25
  Speaker 13: you I'M just.
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  Speaker 6: I have.
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  Speaker 1: The, record, yeah, no no he's a. Good guy he
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: actually turned his. Life around that's, Funny Though, DOUG burns i.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Appreciated brother let everybody that's listening know how they can
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: get in touch, with you how they can, find you and,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: you know if they want to hear more About What
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: doug burns is.
• 57:42
  Speaker 23: Up to Sure At Doug burns LAW on x and
• 57:47
  Speaker 23: then on. The internet, YOU know i come up quite.
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  Speaker 23: A bit you'll see, my background, my biography things. Like
• 57:54
  Speaker 23: that but, You know i've been a lawyer for forty
• 57:56
  Speaker 23: one Years and i'm blissfully retired from.
• 57:58
  Speaker 13: Practicing law, for you working more in media now as
• 58:03
  Speaker 13: a as, a. Commentator.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Outstanding well we always appreciate, having you and if you
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: want to learn More About, doug burns just stay tuned
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: to this SHOW because i bring them on all. The Time,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: doug burns you're a gentleman of scholar and. Appreciate patriot, thank.
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  Speaker 1: YOU sir i. Appreciate it thanks.
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  Speaker 13: HAVING me i.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it, you, Bet Brother. Doug burns Everybody and i'm
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: me he goes keep it locked, right here coming, Right
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Back Little.
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  Speaker 5: Michael jackson ACTION that i want to. Talk about don't.
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  Speaker 5: Go anywhere This.
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  Speaker 6: This.
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• 58:48
  Speaker 4: With Rich valdaz.
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  Speaker 5: All right, For media.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome Back It's rich valdesk keeping your Company this wednesday
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: night and check. IT out i want to talk About
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: This michael jackson stuff because as they're doing some promo for,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: the movie which is breaking, records right box office records are.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: Being broken that's a.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Huge film one of the THINGS that i saw that
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: really caught my attention was an Interview With michael jackson's
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: former ASSISTANT and i thought it was really. Eye opening
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: let me SEE if i could pull that one up.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Real quick let's get that Clip Of michael jackson's, Former
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Assistant marissa Mitchell's show FOX.
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  Speaker 5: Five dc this was about four or five. Days ago
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: listened To.
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  Speaker 24: This Town's Of president trump's Relationship. With michael what do
• 59:33
  Speaker 24: you have to say? About, that well he was a very,
• 59:35
  Speaker 24: loyal friend he.
• 59:37
  Speaker 25: Really WAS and i think of, His, assistant norma Who
• 59:43
  Speaker 25: when michael wanted to talk, to him or he wanted
• 59:45
  Speaker 25: to Talk, to michael, YOU know i was like to
• 59:48
  Speaker 25: conduit and he offered financial assistance because When, AND snoop,
• 59:55
  Speaker 25: i know we'll forget. The day Huh that snoop called
• 59:58
  Speaker 25: the office and HE said i need to talk to.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 25: My cousin they called each OTHER cuz I put michael
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 25: on the phone as the same WAY that i Did With,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 25: president Trump and, Snoop Says.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: Cuz i've been seeing all.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 25: This stuff in the media and the, news look.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: And this was.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 25: So amazing let me send you a couple. Of million
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 25: That's what, snoop said like it was, two dollars and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 25: this was back in two thousand. And five you Hear
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 25: what i'm saying.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 24: In Terms Of president trump's Relationship, With michael what do
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 24: you have to say?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: About?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 25: That well and, He offered, he SAID cuz i don't
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 25: want you out here with, no Money and i'm reading
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 25: all these things in. The Paper and, michael.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: Said thank you.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 25: So Much but i'm.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: Not broke, he says that's.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 25: The narrative and it's okay because as long as People think,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 25: i'm BROKE then i can come out HERE and i
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 25: can add to. MY catalogs i can do THE things
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 25: i want to do without getting blocked and without being,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 25: a target. He says so let Them think, i'm broke,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 25: he SAYS but i will never ever forget.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: This call said the same Thing To.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: President trump isn't?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: That something So, ed Trumpito offering, MJ's support offering him
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: the place to live when he needed somewhere, to stay
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: not because he, was broke but because he was out
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: of town or he was away from Never never land
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: offering financial Assistance When kamala Harris Prosecuted michael jackson For
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: What president trump and his family have maintained over the
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: years were, false allegations and it. MAKES sense i think
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: sometimes people, become, Jealous right you've always heard me.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: Talking About, mike tyson and whether You like mike or
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: not is a.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Different Story But mike tyson was accused of rape and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: went to jail, for that and there's not a part
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: of me that believes he. DID that i believe that
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: this was someone who made it up and they were
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: able to get over on the legal system and get
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: over on on him and get what they wanted to
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: get out, of him to, harm him maybe extort him for,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: some money, legal, settlements whatever and what. Have you and,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: it's unfortunate but it's not a. New THING and i
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: think back when it Happened To, mike tyson it was a.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: New thing at least it wasn't as popular as it's.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Become TODAY and i think that's a. Big Deal And
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: michael jackson was the envy of a lot. Of, people
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: right he owned a lot. Of stuff not only did
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: he own his own, huge mansion his. Own ranch he
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: was probably one of the most famous people on the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: planet most of his life and, STILL today i, would
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: say but he also owned a lot. Of stuff he
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: had a catalog of music that Owned the, beatles catalog
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: other types of. Commercial work and, His sister LaToya was
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: On the view believe it or not a, while back
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: and listen to what. She said This Is, LaToya Jackson michael.
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  Speaker 1: Jackson's sister he.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: Told me over and over.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 26: And over when he first, Told, me LaToya they're gonna.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: KILL me, i Said. Who MICHAEL first, i Thought You're.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 26: Michael jackson nobody in the right mind would ever think
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 26: of doing anything like this.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: To you that's what. You think, he, says no but you.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 26: Don't understand AND then i saw how serious.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: He was, he said it's bigger than what.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 19: YOU think, i, Said, well michael what?
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Is it, he said it's.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 26: My publishing there after, my publishing they want to.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: Take it as you, guys know.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 26: My brother had one of the largest catalogs in, the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 26: world meaning, music Wise. The beatles you On, The, beatles
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 26: yes there's an elevator music that, you hear, just everything
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 26: basically that piece of.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: Every artist I'm just i'm.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 26: Really intrigued because you say that there was somebody.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: At this house and you know who?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: It was can you say who?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: It?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 26: WAS no i cannot say because there are other people
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 26: in the house, as WELL because i prefer not to at,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 26: The MOMENT but i will, SAY this i would love
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 26: to have a one on one with. Several people ONE
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 26: person i would love. TO have i would love to
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 26: have a one on one, WITH probably, i mean.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: You.
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  Speaker 26: Couldn't instinct first, of all he told me over and
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 26: over and over when you first, told, me so who is.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: It That LaToya jackson would like to have a one on?
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  Speaker 2: One?
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  Speaker 5: With right she never came clean. On that there's a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: lot to.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: BE said a lot Of the jackson family came together for.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: This Film, janet jackson who was likely the closest Sibling To,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: michael jackson did not participate in any of the promo for,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: the film wasn't in, the film didn't want to lend
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: herself to the FILM because i think she felt that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: it was Her.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: Brother jermaine.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: At least this is Rumors that i'm reading and seeing
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: And videos i've clicked on that she Felt that jermaine
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: was using this as a real pivot as a springboard
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: for His, son jaffar Who Plays michael jackson in. The
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: film and what's interesting about it to me is that
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how much money, you have how big your,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: family is and none of those. Things matter there's always
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: a sibling. Rivalry THERE and i shouldn't, say always but
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: oftentimes when you have that in, these families it doesn't
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: matter if you're, Broker port you're still going to have the.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: Same Stuff and i'm grateful of. My family we don't
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: have that type.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: Of thing.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: You know we argue, for sure but nobody's jealous. Of
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: anybody nobody's trying to make, anybody broke none. Of that,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: You know we're not at, that level. Thank god but
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: ONE thing i can say if there was a silver
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Lining For michael jackson was another INTERVIEW that. I heard
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: this one is on a radio Show Called The breakfast
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Club with Charlemagne the god In, the morning and he
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: was interviewing somebody that worked very Closely With, michael jackson
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: who gave a very very interesting REPORT which i thought
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: was endearing listen.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: To this who Worked With michael jackson and you were rewarded.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: For that.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: See you got the.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 27: Reward, wrong no you got to reward with a Relationship.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 27: With michael, My, reward okay my reward Was when michael
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 27: called me to pray. For me two thousand, and three
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 27: i't in a Studio With chris tucker and.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: My father we at.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 27: The studio michael was going through that trial and he, Said, Where,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 27: yes iman, he said can YOU can?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 22: I come i just.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 27: Need prayer that's.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: The reward all, the accolades it just comes and.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: All that that's what the.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 27: World seeds but Now that i'm older and look back on,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 27: like though the ultimate Reward and i'm blessed to have
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 27: all these, Stories right but the ultimate reward was the
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 27: time that we. Prayed together the ultimate reward IS when
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 27: i go to his Funeral And sondra crouch And seth
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 27: riggs his vocal, quach, says, Yeah yeah Michael received christ two.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Weeks ago he had us prayed and he did the.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: Sinners prayer that's. The reward That's what i'm trying to get.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: Everybody understand.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Right now I've Heard michael jackson speak over, the years
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: and he always spoke about his love of children. Was
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: biblical it was the red letter Words, of, christ saying,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: you know we have to be, like children and no harm,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: to children and the children come.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: Unto me and this Is something i've heard him.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Talk about so unless he was, just citing, you know
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: the Teachings Of, JESUS christ i would presume that this
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: was his faith. Of choice perhaps there was a rededication.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Of sorts but, Either way i'm not here to argue us.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: But hers i'm here to say that toward the End
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Of michael, jackson's life it seems like he'd made a
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: decision of how he wanted to spend his eternity and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: who he wanted to spend, It with, and that to me.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: Is encouraging if, nothing else THAT'S all i got.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: For today remember you have to stand, for something because
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: if you stand, for nothing you'll fall. For anything and
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: good people like you to sit there and. Do nothing
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: so make sure you stand up and you do something a,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Style approxima, take care, good Night and god Bless. You
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: America I'm, rich valdez and This. Is america This.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: Is america
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: S