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Evolution of Consciousness Through Time & Our Individual Role and Destiny · Sri Aurobindo Studies

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Welcome. Welcome, everybody.
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And we thank you for joining us for this new Perspective series
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on the science of living. And of course, as always, we
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welcome HP, the founder and Chancellor of our university in
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Surat, India, and our benefactor, the Lagraj Shiro
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Bindo Center here in Fountain Inn, as well as our sister
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center, Shrio Bindo Shrio Bindo Center in Surat, India.
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And we also welcome members of the faculty at our university.
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I see Professor Joshi and others coming on.
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We appreciate you following the series on the science of living
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with us and and for joining and participating in many of the New
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Perspective sessions. So today our guest speaker is
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Santosh Krinsky, who will address the topic, the role of
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the individual spiritual aspirant in the process of the
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evolution of consciousness. And Santosh states Shir Bindo
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and the mother have radically redefined the objective of yoga
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and the role and destiny of the individual.
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For those of you who follow Cultural Integration Fellowship
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Sunday Zoom meetings, back in early August, CIF hosted
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Santosh, who gave an illuminating talk on a related
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subject. But for today, he says he has
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further developed the topic, adding a new focus, direction
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and additional insights. So we welcome you, Santosh.
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We are always so interested in hearing your perspectives on
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such important topics and of course, joining us from Hawaii.
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We are especially appreciative of you joining it at 44 AM your
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time. Santosh was just mentioning that
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he actually was up by two or three this morning and working
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on podcasts and a few other things that he does on a daily
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basis, which we'll be mentioning here in a minute.
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So welcome, Santosh. So Santosh has been studying
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Shrivinda's writing since 1971, and many of you know him through
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his daily blog, which I'll be posting in the chat, and his
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podcast. Also I'll be posting the URL in
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the chat. He is a prolific author of 21
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books and editor in chief at Lotus Press, which carries many
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of Shirvinda and the Mothers. Of books.
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The US editions and links to ebooks of Shirbindo's writings
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can be found at lotuspress.com and he is also president of the
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Institute for Holistic Education in Hawaii, which is a non profit
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focused on integrating spirituality into daily life.
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So once again, we welcome you and we welcome all attendees.
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There will certainly be time for comments and questions and
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dialogue with Santosh towards the end.
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In the meantime, if you want to post any comments or questions
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in the chat and we'll get to them towards the end, but at
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this time, I'd like to go ahead and hand it over to you,
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Santosh. I must stay.
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So welcome everybody. It is so wonderful to have an
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opportunity to share Satsang with devotees from around the
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world. Today, the subject is going to
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be an interesting one for most people.
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It's about us, you and me, what we're here for, what our destiny
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is, what our role to play is alive here on the planet Earth.
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So where we are at present, where we're going in the future,
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and what we can do as part of that process that Triora Bindo
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and the mother have so wonderfully described to us.
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Before we do that, I'd like to go into a little bit what I
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would call, with all deference to Stephen Hawking, A brief
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history of Time. But I'm not going to go back to
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The Big Bang or before that. Let's start with this, the
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planet Earth. And so we'll discuss that and
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we'll take this voyage the Trioro Bindo describes in
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Savitri. And I'll read a very brief
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passage. This is the sailor on the flow
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of time. This is world matters.
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Slow discoverer, who launched into this small corporeal birth,
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has learned his craft in tiny bays of self, but dares at last
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unplumbed infinitudes, a Voyager upon eternities seas.
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So scientists tell us that the age of the Earth is somewhere
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around 4 1/2 billion years. And I'd like to go through a
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little bit of this history. I'm going to skip a few steps,
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but I think it's important for us to recognize what
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evolutionary time is. Because we as human beings, we
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have a lifetime of 70 or 80 or 90 or maybe even 100 years.
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And we think that's a long time, or maybe sometimes we think it's
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a short time. But either way, it's not even
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the blink of an eye in evolutionary time.
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And I think that sets a context for us of why and how we respond
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to things. So if the age of the Earth is 4
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1/2 billion years and we look at the first evidence of land on
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life is like 3.2 billion years ago.
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This is the the first sign that the vital force has evolved out
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of matter. And following Shrioro Bindo's
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understanding that everything in existence is not some kind of a
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a random chance, when we look at the the universe, we look at the
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world and the planet and the diversity and the energies at
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play, can we really say that this is just some kind of a
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mistake? If we want to build a building
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and we look at dumping a whole bunch of materials on the ground
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in a certain place, the building does not build itself.
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It's not a matter of matter getting together and saying
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let's put up a building or it just being some kind of random
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chance. Someone has to design the
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building. Someone has to organize the
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steps involved in it and the accumulation of materials and
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the proper use of forms to create that building.
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Well, the whole universe is the building within which
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consciousness exists, and it's created by consciousness.
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And so, as Sri Rabindo points out, consciousness is involved
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in matter and has basically designed the evolution.
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Not that consciousness follows material development, but that
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consciousness creates the forms it needs to express itself.
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So the first signs of life, 3.2 billion years ago, OK, about 2
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billion years ago. The next evolutionary step in
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the process takes place with the development of what are called
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eukaryotic cells, and these are cells that have internal systems
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that allow the development of energy engines within the cells.
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Chloroplasts for the conversion of solar energy into life
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energy, sexual reproduction. This is what eukaryotic cells
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allow. Before that time, life was
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basically single cellular. About a billion and a half years
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ago, these eukaryotic cells split into the ancestors of what
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we now know as plants, fungi and animals.
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This is 500 million years after the first signs of life or the
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the development of the eukaryotic cells.
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So we can begin to see what the yoga of nature the Trioro Bindo
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describes at various places involves in terms of a time
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frame. The time frames in human
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lifespans are enormous, and about 890,000,000 years ago, the
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first recognizable animals appeared, and then it took
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another 335,000,000 years before animals were able to show their
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own power of impulsion. In other words, they could walk,
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they could fly, whatever it is that they did for impulsion.
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All of these time frames, I think we can see there's a sort
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of a pattern here. The first steps of conversion of
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pure matter, material form into life forms took billions of
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years. Now the next steps of the
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progression of animal consciousness, the vital force
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making itself felt, didn't take billions of years, it took
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hundreds of millions of years. And we doubt move to the rise of
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the dinosaurs, which is 250 million years ago.
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And they ruled the earth until about 66,000,000 years ago.
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So they were here for a long time.
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The early primates came about just 55,000,000 years ago.
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I say just, but in our frame this is a long time, The higher
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primates 40 million years ago, and about two to 2.8 million
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years ago the human genus came forward, which you could say
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represents a next phase in the development of the vital.
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And then the mental consciousness.
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And the modern human species appeared about 300,000 years
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ago, which is 2,000,000 years later.
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We still share 98.4% of the genes of the chimpanzee even
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after millions of years of evolutionary divergent.
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That's how humanity has been built upon prior development of
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you might call the evolution of forms that are based on the
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evolution of consciousness. Human domination of the planet
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means that the control of our mental beings changing life and
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matter consciously is only 11,000 years.
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It may seem longer than that with what we're doing to the
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planet. And in fact, some scientists say
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we're engaged right now in the 6th mass extinction event, the
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one that follows the demise of the dinosaurs, mainly because of
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the imbalances that our development of the mental
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consciousness have caused in planetary life.
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And a lot of that is based on the ego, and we'll talk about
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that later. But every one of these major
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transitions led to the development of forms that could
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hold and manifest the next evolution of consciousness.
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And that's, I think, an important point to to think
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about. When Sri Ravindo and the Mother
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talk about the evolution of consciousness, they're looking
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at this scale of evolutionary time, what they call the yoga of
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nature. And they have pointed out
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repeatedly that with the yoga of nature, this next phase that
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what we would call the Super mental consciousness, this next
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phase could take, who knows, hundreds of thousands of years.
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If we're sort of truncating the time scale down from billions of
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years to hundreds of millions of years to millions of years, we
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may be now in the hundreds of thousands of years.
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And they look at it and say, well, the imbalances that are
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caused by the mental consciousness being essentially
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unchecked in the ego development create that crisis that requires
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something more and something faster.
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And that's why they develop what we call the integral yoga, not
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to lead to cessation of life or escape from life or individual
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liberation or entry into Nirvana.
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And you know, in the in the Buddhist tradition, there is a
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concept called bodhisattva. And bodhisattva basically is an
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individual who has carried out a spiritual development to such a
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point that that individual can go and create for himself
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liberation from this entire sequence of life.
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But he turns back and says that until every last sentient being
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achieves Nirvana, he won't enter in.
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Now the concept here is that it's not about an individual
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achieving something as an egoistic personality, but about
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the need for the entire sentient universe to achieve that
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liberation. Now Shrioro Bindu and the mother
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don't talk about liberation as being the goal or the end
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purpose of our existence. They talk about the
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transformation of life in the earth consciousness.
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So while the Bodhisattva vow of every sentient being points a
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way for us, it doesn't point a way away from the earth.
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It points a way into the integral yoga.
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We look at, if you will, our own position in that, and Shiro
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Bindo and the mother want us to understand that it's not about
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us. And this is a really hard
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concept because we are so wrapped up in our mental and
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vital consciousness. We're born into this, we're
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educated into this, and we think it's about me, me, me, and we're
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going to achieve something. I've heard people say that
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they're devotees and they expect to be super mentalized in this
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lifetime. And you know, maybe, I don't
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know, miracles can happen, but that's not the process of
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nature. I'd like to read a brief
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citation from Sri Robindo about this subject.
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What we are doing, if and when we succeed, will be a beginning,
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not a completion. It is the foundation of a new
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consciousness on earth, a consciousness with infinite
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possibilities of manifestation. The eternal progression is in
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the manifestation and beyond it there is no progression.
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And he goes on to say that the old yoga's, the original yoga's,
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didn't believe in this transformation.
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That wasn't their goal. They think that life is an
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illusion. They want to escape the illusion
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to the reality. So essentially it is only some
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yoga's that aim at a transformation of any kind
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except that of ignorance into knowledge.
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And it is not intended to super mentalize humanity at large, but
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to establish the principle of the Super mental consciousness
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in the earth evolution. And he goes on to say it would
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not be possible to change all that in a moment we have always
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said. That the whole of humanity will
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not change the moment there is the descent.
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But what can be done is to establish the higher principle
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in the earth consciousness in such a way that it will remain
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and go on strengthening and spreading itself in the earth
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life. That is how a new principle in
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the evolution must necessarily work.
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This transformation cannot be done individually in a solitary
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way only. No individual solitary
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transformation apart from the work for the Earth, which means
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more than any individual transformation, would be either
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possible or useful. Also, no individual human being
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can by his own power alone work out the transformation, nor is
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it the object of the Yoga to create an individual Superman
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here and there. The object of the yoga is to
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bring down the Super mental consciousness on earth, to fix
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it there, to create a new race with the principle of the Super
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mental consciousness governing the inner and outer, individual
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and collective life. So let's reflect on this for a
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moment. If it's not about creating
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individual salvation, and it's not about creating an individual
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Superman, as he describes here, but it's about every one of us
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dedicating our lives as the Bodhisattva dedicates his life
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to the creation of that new power of consciousness within
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the earth, nature. And this is really the crux of
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it. It's not about you, it's not
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about me, it's not about any one of us.
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Now somewhere, and don't quote me on this, but somewhere Srioro
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Vindo, I, as I recall, said that it could take 3 or 400 years for
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the new race to emerge. And that would be based upon
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more or less the intensity of the effort combined with working
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out and overcoming the resistance of the existing
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egoistic nature, if you will, or the resistance of matter and the
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embedded instincts and habits of the vital life.
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All of these things have to be modified.
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It's something that I call the texturing of the consciousness
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of the earth, the idea that you can't have a Unicorn appear, if
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you will, in in sort of today's modern business sense without
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there being a basis in the society for that form to survive
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and thrive. And so the development of an
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individual super mental being or a collective group of super
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mental beings is conditioned upon not just the emergence of
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that consciousness, but the development of enough texturing
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across the entire physical vital mental sphere that it can
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support that. So where are we?
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The human being has its own issues, We are struggling to
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address those issues and any one of us in our lifetimes is likely
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not going to be transformed and super mentalized.
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I look at this as something like a relay race.
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Only the last runner in the relay race gets across the
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finish line. All the others are just running
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to move things forward. Now if we look at it as let's
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accept 3 year old windows #300 to 400 years, we're looking at
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maybe 10 generations of humanity before the 1st super mental
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beings that can actually manifest and live that
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consciousness are able to actually walk upon the earth or
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whatever they do. They may not walk, who knows.
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The rest of us are basically carrying that baton forward
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through 10 generations, where what we're doing is helping to
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texture the consciousness and prepare the ground, but not
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ourselves individually getting the immediate fruits of that.
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Now let's say that if we take repeated births and we continue
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this process through our psychic association through time, our
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future psychic heirs of rebirth, we'll be the ones to get the
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benefit of that. So maybe we're thinking like the
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Native Americans do about 7 generations down and what the
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impact on that is all going to be.
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So if our goal is for immediate transformation, with all due
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respect, I think that we're not focused on where we need to be.
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What can we do? Nature's methods, if you will,
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are to combine benefits from other aspects that have been
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developed to more or less create a new way forward.
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And as an example, the energy centers in the human body are
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called mitochondria. They're within the cells and the
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mitochondria actually developed from a bacteria that invaded the
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cell. And instead of the immune system
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destroying it and the bacteria creating a disease, they created
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a symbiotic relationship whereby the bacteria thrive and get fed
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by the human system and they provide energy back to the
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system. And we look also at our
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digestive system. Everyone, I'm sure, is aware of
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what we call probiotics. These are what we call the good
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bacteria that reside in our guts that actually carry out a huge
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portion of the digestive process without which we would really be
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struggling. And so looking at this, we say
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that, well, what is the human being?
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We are a collective of various pieces of natural evolution to
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create a certain forward motion or movement, a certain form that
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works for what needs to be done. The collective power of this
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effort, even if it's not for our own individual transformation
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but to texture consciousness, also comes within a context.
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In 1956, the mother declared that the Super mental descent
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had occurred in matter. And I suspect that it's not only
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active, it's very active, but it's active at ways that we
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don't recognize. And we don't recognize it
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because we don't observe the way nature works. the Super mental
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process is to open up what we would call the truth
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consciousness. And what has happened in the
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last 75 years or so is evidence of that.
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You've got all kinds of new revelations coming about about
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how humanity is dealing with the planet, with the environment,
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with each other. All kinds of corruption have
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been exposed. All kinds of issues have been
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brought forward into the light that used to remain hidden and
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the forces that oppose that have a vested egoistic interest, a
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vested long term embedded habitual interest in not
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changing and not allowing this to occur because their power in
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their minds would be reduced or eliminated.
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These forces are up in arms worldwide.
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Everywhere. Things are exploding, forces are
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fighting, oppression is happening, economic controls and
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manipulations are stronger than ever.
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Technologies are being developed to basically monitor and control
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everybody, with the idea that somehow brute force of the ego
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can suppress a movement of evolutionary time, the
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development of the next phase of consciousness.
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It is the very fact that these things are so prevalent and so
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heavily visible today that tells us that in new forces working
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that's irritating these established forces very, very
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much. And so I see the opposition
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arising as this as the most obvious sign of the evolution of
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the next phase of consciousness fixed into the earth
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consciousness. Now, how long is this going to
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take? It might take several 100 years
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for this opposition to get worked out, but it will get
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worked out. And the reason is that souls
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that have adhered to this concept are taking conscious
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birth on the planet. And that itself is a marvelous,
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amazing thing. And we can see it in Savi Tree.
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Sri Aurobindo inspires us with his vision of the individual and
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the transformation process. And so I'll close with that.
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I saw the omnipotence, flaming pioneers over the heavenly verge
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which turns towards life, come crowding down the amber stairs
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of birth, forerunners of a divine multitude out of the
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paths of the morning star they came into the little room of
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mortal life. I saw them cross the twilight of
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an age, the sun eyed children of a marvelous dawn, the great
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creators with wide brows of calm, the massive barrier
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Breakers of the world and wrestlers with destiny in her
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lists of will. The laborers in the quarries of
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the gods, the messengers of the incommunicable, the architects
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of immortality. Into the fallen human sphere
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they came. Faces that wore the immortals
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glory still. Voices that commune still with
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the thoughts of God. Bodies made beautiful by the
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spirit's light carrying the magic word.
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The Mystic fire carrying the Dionysian cup of joy.
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Approaching eyes of a diviner man, lips chanting an unknown
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anthem of the soul, feet echoing in the corridors of time, High
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priests of wisdom, sweetness, might and bliss, Discoverers of
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beauty's sunlit waves and swimmers of Love's laughing
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fiery floods and dancers within rapture's golden doors.
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Their tread one day shall change the suffering earth and justify
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the light and nature's face. Thank you Santosh so much and
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this is beautiful, especially this ending actually defines
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everything what you wanted to say.
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So basically your message is that individual here is to help
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nature to evolve to the higher levels.
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We are here the helpers of nature's yoga and not here to
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agrees to clearly try to develop ourselves against nature or
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against the whole world, just as if we are the supreme beings.
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This is that wrong Superman idea of Nietzsche most probably,
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which was mistaken for Sri Aravinda's idea.
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And of course. Yes, I should mention one thing
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in relation to that, and that is that people want to have
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spiritual experiences, they want to have illumination.
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But what if the role of some people is to have that
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experience as part of this process?
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And the role of other people is to really just deal with the
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stuff you know and, you know. Poem called a God's labor.
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Sri Aurobindo points out, I have been digging deep and long in a
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horror of filth. Admire a bed for the golden
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River song, a home for the deathless fire.
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Well, this isn't spiritual illumination on the heights.
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This is dealing with all those movements that anger the ego,
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the pride, the vanity, the lust, the greed, the egoistic self
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dealing that are part of what needs to be textured.
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What if some of us are just there to deal with that stuff
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and we're not here to personally experience the heights other
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than possibly glimpses to give us hope?
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It's really a different way of looking at things, and some
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people get discouraged by that. But some people say, well, OK,
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let's roll up our sleeves and if Sri or Ovindo can dig deep and
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long and a horror of filth, admire, well, I guess we can
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sign up for that too, if necessary.
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Absolutely, I understand what you mean.
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I had once experienced, I remember in Soviet Union looking
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at 2 drunken men digging their, their trench and you know, and
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cursing and, and I was thinking, how is that the divine created
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this, you know, this formation, why it is there, what it is for
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Usually we condemn this people. And then I thought, no, it's not
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like that. They are actually going deep
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into the darkness with their small lights, but those lights
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inside them are actually transmitting the greater light
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into the darkness. They are intermediaries who
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dared to go down to forget themselves, to to be lost in the
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darkness. And that is the greatest
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sacrifice. And it reminded me of this
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statement of Jesus. Those who are the last will be
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the first in the Kingdom of my Father.
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So there's something mysterious about this manifestation of the
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Supreme in the human race, and I understand what you want to say.
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This is amazing. Thank you so much.
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Beautiful. If anyone wants to say something
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or reflect upon this or have questions, please please say
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it's time now. Just to add what Santos has so
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eloquently laid out the evolutionary journey of human
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being, I think what's here Window has brought out and
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mother has given away is that we have to be conscious
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collaborator in that evolutionary journey of ours to
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make the room for super mental to work with us.
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So we have to be conscious collaborator with it and that's
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how we can keep moving forward. And that will help also hasten
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the evolutionary process and manifestation, manifestation of
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super mental being actually, because we have to be part of
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that evolutionary process. And in the Basis of Yoga, which
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is the current blog post, we just went over sort of this
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subject. Sri Rabindo advises someone, you
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spend too much time focused on all your deficiencies and
40:32
problems and everything. The real work is to aspire and
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be receptive and accept the grace and the forest as it
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enters, because it's the yoga of nature that we're facilitating,
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not an individual achievement. So thank you, Yes.
40:54
Thank you, Poonam. You wanted to say something.
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Oh, OK, I'll wait. Yeah, I just wanted to when
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Santosh mentioned about the probiotic.
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You went muted. Sorry, I accidentally muted you.
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I was trying to get your hand down.
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Sorry Pruna, you'll have to unmute yourself.
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And I'm doing it, yeah. So no, Santosh had said that
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talked about the probiotic which are in Nagas.
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So I remember reading in one of the journals that there are
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millions of good bacteria in the large intestines particularly
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which keeps which fights all the the diseases.
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That's all I wanted to say. Thank you.
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Yes, please, rather you wanted to.
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Yes, I, I was just going to comment.
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First of all, thank you so much Santosh.
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That was absolutely excellent and explained and illustrated
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some very important concepts in terms of our evolution and the
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Super mental power and consciousness you had.
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You had mentioned that, you know, we don't really know or
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understand how nature works. We can't really see and
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appreciate it all the time. And when you were commenting
42:19
that the Super mantle has already come down and touched
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the Earth and working in the Earth nature, you know, it
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reminds me that a lot of of what we're seeing, not just not just
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the wars, but the other destructions that we're seeing
42:33
with the natural elements, the fire and the Tornadoes and the
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Hurricanes. This is churning perhaps that
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that Mother Nature is doing under the impetus of the Super
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mental in order to begin to create or awaken even the the
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consciousness, the nature, the consciousness within matter or
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within nature. So just wanted to share that
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thought and get your comments on it.
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Well, I think that's very good. I, I believe that if all of us
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reflect on what we see and what we experience, both in terms of
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what we're seeing outside with all this churning you're you're
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mentioning and also the very hopeful signs, the light, the
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people awakening and the vast increase of people interested in
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yoga and spirituality. And I mean, all these things
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work together to show that there is both the positive, if you
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will, side of that process of awakening consciousness, and on
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the other side that what you might call the negative side,
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the opening up and churning, as you mention it, of the material
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world, the vital world, and the mental world that has ruled the
43:59
earth heretofore. So basically we are all here
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workers on the indifferent niches of the we have different
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tasks. Some of us are the workers
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without wages for delight. Others are closer to the more
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conscious kind of evolution or to say that at least ascribe
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themselves for that thinking that they are that.
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But truly speaking, we are all working for one particular
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reason to go forward, to move forward.
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Those who resist, they also resist for the reason they
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intensify the divine intervention and also highlight
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all those problems which have to be dealt with.
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You mentioned beautiful this in this beautiful quotation, the
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resistance, many of we have to face that resistance also and
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not only to, to promote forward, but to meet the resistance, to
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face it, to deal with it. And many of us are dealing with
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it. And of course, we we do not
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speak of them highly of those people who are in the trouble
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and dealing with resistance, but they are workers of this
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evolution. This is a beautiful image which
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includes everyone in this journey.
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Thank you, Sangeeta. You wanted to say something.
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I just want to apologize. My Wi-Fi is not amazing.
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That's why I'm not, I'm not opening my video.
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I really wanted to thank Santosh and always I'm very grateful to
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La Grasse. Thank you, Vladimir Andrade.
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Santosh, I completely resonate with what you're saying and we
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are actually on very similar paths because the work that I'm
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doing right now is very much aligned with what you've
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described of helping and facilitating the Super mental to
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to connect more deeply with nature.
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I was just going to request you if, if you're amenable to it, to
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share your e-mail contact. If that's possible, I would like
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to reach out and connect with you please.
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Sureitssantoshk@msn.com. Okthankyousantoshk@msn.com.
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Yes. Thank you.
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Thank. You Nova.
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I've also put out there Santosh's blog and his YouTube
46:48
in the chat for those that want to follow.
46:52
Thank you, Roddy. Once, since nobody speaks.
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Once I was puzzled by a mother's statement when they came to her
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and said, you know, this, this person is not really for
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integral yoga here. And why do you keep him, you
47:13
know, and his family in the ashram?
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And she said, but, you know, he is a very good worker.
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And this is the quality needed for the constellation of all,
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you know, engagements of all different kinds.
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One of them has to be a good worker to cover something very
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basic for the rest of moving forward.
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It's amazing, if you think of it, no more judgement of who is
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spiritual, who is not. And you remember there was one
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American who lived on the island, most probably you know
48:00
him, I forgot his name, who was drunken always and under the and
48:06
drugs and so on. And they people resisted and
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said why do you keep him here? He is not really for the ashram.
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And she says he took on to himself the vulgarity of
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American people, the whole vulgarity took unto himself.
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It was his yoga. And this is something amazing to
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think. It's really something only
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mother can see. What is really happening.
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You know, we can't see. We do not know.
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Well, the texturing of consciousness has to happen at
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every level. So whether people are
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consciously doing it, whether they're moved unconsciously, or
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whether they're simply progressing along the path of
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the yoga of nature, every sentient being on the planet is
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involved in this process somehow.
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And you know, we we all talk about all the ego is bad and we
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need to get rid of the ego. And Trior Vindo said the ego is
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the helper, the ego is the bar. And there is actually a role for
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the ego and we shouldn't minimize that.
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It becomes for us and this is part of the process of what we
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can do, OK. It becomes an opportunity for
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nature to create a self aware and conscious receiving device
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and Nexus if you will, so that when people get to that stage,
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they can begin to tune their focus towards the higher energy
50:00
centers and bring down and radiate that force consciously.
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And until that was there, you had this amorphous energy moving
50:14
through almost like instinctively.
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So now you've got self-conscious individuals such as those of us
50:22
who who participate in these type of programs, whose job it
50:29
is really to tune ourselves to the higher vibrational centers
50:35
and to let that force work through us.
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It's not that we're doing the yoga, it's that the yoga is
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doing us, and the ego provided the platform for that to even
50:47
start to occur. Or to face resistance.
50:52
Exactly. Sangeeta wants to say something
50:58
you handed. Up I just want to comment that,
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you know, the indigenous peoples all over the world through, I
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believe through their ceremonies are actually doing this and
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they've been doing it right since the beginning.
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And even I, I feel that with, with the Indian indigenous
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systems of heaven and all the Ayurvedic, you know, ceremonies
51:25
and rituals that is also being used to bring in the Super
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mental consciousness into the, the, the, the earth.
51:36
And it was always like that, probably from the beginning.
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That's what Santosh was showing us, that the whole design was
51:47
from the beginning could not build the foundation for the
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building, which is not coming. So absolutely thank you.
51:57
Somebody else say, I see many faces, many familiar faces.
52:02
Sharon Kinshuk, who wants to add to it?
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Rick, please go ahead. I'm reminded of a writing in
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Adventure of Consciousness by Satprene wherein he describes
52:18
that in 1926 is the older mind descended, the saddocks in the
52:26
ashram were disrupted, and I draw a parallel to today's
52:36
situation where we see the world perhaps in chaos and increasing
52:43
disruption following the descent of the supermoon in 1956.
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Just that parallel. Wonderful.
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You know, maybe again, since nobody's raised their hand, I'll
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share something here that I was just looking for.
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I read recently and it kind of goes back to your comment,
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Santosh, about nature and how nature works.
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And there was a writing that was published in the Aria back in, I
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think, 2015, 19/15/1970 by Shriya Binda.
53:27
And what he was doing was really taking the Darwin, the Western
53:31
concept of evolution and point by point by point discussing how
53:37
there is truth in each, but those truths are subordinate to
53:41
a larger truth. And one of the things that one
53:45
of those points that he was mentioning was that it looks to
53:50
us as we look back over time that evolution is taking place
53:55
very slow, very steady. He says very minute graduations.
54:00
But then, and I'll, I'll read this.
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It's it's a little lengthy, but I think it's absolutely on
54:06
point. He says, now evolution
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suggested, let me see, instead of slow, steady, my new
54:13
graduations, right, It is now new steps and evolutions are
54:18
rather affected by rapid and sudden outbursts, outbreaks, as
54:25
it were, of manifestation from the unmanifest.
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Shall we say that nature, preparing slowly behind the
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veil, working a little backwards, working a little
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forwards, one day arrives at the combination of outward things
54:42
which makes it possible for her to throw her new idea into a
54:47
realized formation suddenly, with violence, with a glorious
54:52
donning, with the grandiose stride.
54:55
And that would explain the economy of her relapses and her
54:59
reappearances of things long dead.
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She aims at a certain immediate result, and to arrive at it more
55:07
quickly and entirely, she sacrifices many of her
55:12
manifestations and throws them back into the latent, the
55:16
unmanifest, the subconscious. But she has not finished with
55:20
them. She will need them at another
55:22
stage for a further result. Therefore she brings them
55:27
forward again and they reappear in new forms and other
55:31
combinations and act towards new ends.
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And so evolution advances. And so we don't see actually
55:40
what nature is is doing and we don't think of it as a sudden
55:44
outburst as these violent reactions that are happening.
55:47
But this is actually the birthing and the opportunity for
55:50
new forms and new consciousness to come forward.
55:53
So I thought it was just absolutely beautiful when I read
55:55
that a few days ago. And I think anyone who is
55:59
interested in, you know, Shirvindo's other concepts of,
56:02
of evolution, I would encourage you to to read that which is now
56:06
in a little pamphlet. And actually Shirvindo elsewhere
56:12
talks about the evolutionary saltus.
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Where things get prepared to a certain stage and then there's
56:19
like a sudden jump or leap that occurs because it's all been
56:26
prepared as you're pointing out here.
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Yeah, amazing. Absolutely amazing.
56:35
There is the whole passage in Savitry and believe shall be not
56:38
till the work is done. So there's something about the
56:44
sudden appearance or manifestation of which we'll
56:48
take in our reveal. We all believed that it will
56:51
come suddenly, so we don't have to do much for it.
56:55
We just have to follow the trend and then it will come in spite
57:03
of us rather than with our help for something.
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Yes, yes we shall. You wanted to say something.
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Yeah, just what's that game? Your mother says that, and I'm
57:19
just quoting her. There are people who love
57:22
adventure. It is these I call and I tell
57:27
them this. I invite you to the great
57:30
adventure. It is not a question of
57:33
repeating spiritual, spiritually, what others have
57:36
done before us, for our adventure begins.
57:40
Beyond that, it is a question of a new creation, entirely new,
57:47
with all the unforeseen events, the risks, the hazards entails,
57:52
a real adventure whose goal is certain victory, but the road to
57:57
which is unknown and must be traced out step by step and the
58:01
unexplored. This is so beautiful because we
58:06
are all connected. She has called us and we have
58:10
chosen to participate. So not I think, as was
58:14
mentioned, from an egotistical standpoint, but just the joy of
58:19
participating, I think is so tremendous.
58:23
And then I think the other part was and mother also say that,
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you know, this is it is through the heart, right?
58:30
Not through the head that you become closer to this force.
58:36
So that I just want to share. Thank.
58:43
You I just wanted to say something.
58:46
I loved the image of passing the baton and carrying the baton
58:54
knowing that you'll never cross the finish line and it just
58:59
brought up deep gratitude for all the people that have passed
59:05
the baton to me, so thank you. Wonderful.
59:27
Thank you. Yeah, I think we, we have all
59:31
been so, so moved today as Sharon and and all of us Santosh
59:38
for what you've shared and what others have shared here today.
59:42
So we just, we just thank you very, very much for this
59:46
session. And, and, and Satsang, as you
59:49
called it when you were were opening.
59:52
It's, it was very wonderful that we could all come come together
59:56
and share in our thoughts and our ideas and, and, and, and
1:00:02
continue to carry the, the, the torch, if you will.
1:00:07
For the Integral Yoga and for progress.
1:00:09
So thank you so much, very much appreciate it.
1:00:13
Thank you all. Thank you, Namaste.