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Tigers lock up Kevin McGonigle to $150mil extension, Jarren Duran flips off fan for inhumane comment · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Todfather, Kratz braun with you.
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Speaker 2: Jackie Robinson Day April fifteenth, also Tax Day, but more
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Speaker 2: importantly Jackie Robinson Day.
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Speaker 1: Krats.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna do Kratz at tire right off the jump
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Speaker 2: because it's relevant.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you got it, you gotta wear it
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Speaker 3: on this day. Like everybody's gonna wear number forty two.
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Speaker 3: The fact that I got you can't see it on
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Speaker 3: the back, but obviously they had a cool patch this year.
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Speaker 3: This was twenty nineteen. I don't know if they do
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Speaker 3: the same patch every year, but everybody wears number forty two.
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Speaker 3: This was the one jersey that I got to keep
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Speaker 3: Slash Soul because every other year's every other year. It
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Speaker 3: was like you're walking in from the field and they
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Speaker 3: take the jersey and they take it right off your back,
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Speaker 3: and you're like, I'd like to keep that, Like it's
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Speaker 3: it's something that is It's one of the only memorable
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Speaker 3: jerseys that I have besides like different like milestones in
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Speaker 3: my own personal career, and it's something that I know
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Speaker 3: exactly where it's at, like it's my time with the
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Speaker 3: Giants was really short. But the fact that I got
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Speaker 3: to wear the forty two jersey and keep it pretty cool.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say misplaced the jersey. Of course I
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Speaker 4: stole it. I stole it. Now you didn't.
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Speaker 5: Still you wore the jersey. It's your jersey. You know,
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Speaker 5: you should be able to keep it. But yeah, man,
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Speaker 5: what he endured, what he had to go through, you know,
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Speaker 5: talking with guys like C. C. Sabathia, Brandon Phillips, and
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Speaker 5: you know just how enlightened and how they understand and
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Speaker 5: know that, you know, they wouldn't be here if it
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Speaker 5: wasn't for guys like Jackie Robinson playing in this in
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Speaker 5: baseball terms. But yeah, it's truly remarkable. I think it's
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Speaker 5: a great day for everybody all over the world, baseball
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Speaker 5: fans all over the world, to cherish and remember a
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Speaker 5: true hero, you know, on and off the field, of
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Speaker 5: Jackie Robinson.
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Speaker 2: Let's show the couple of uniforms that we have for
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Speaker 2: everyone before we get into the new So here's the
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Speaker 2: National Baseball Hall of Fame showing the jersey used by
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers to retire Jackie's iconic number forty two in
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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy two, preserved in the Hall of Fame collection.
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Speaker 2: And then this was a nice little addition for UCLA Baseball.
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Speaker 2: They just posted today how Jackie Robinson's granddaughter Sonya Robinson,
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Speaker 2: stepped into unveil UCLA's new Jackie Robinson inspired uniforms.
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Speaker 5: Love it, Love it very nice. I can't wait to
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Speaker 5: see the ones today. Maybe maybe a little throwback action,
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Speaker 5: but I don't know. I think they'll keep it kind
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Speaker 5: of newish. Maybe Dodgers have something really cool if their sleeves.
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Speaker 4: That'd be nice.
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Speaker 2: Always something good cooking on a daylight today, So we
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Speaker 2: think about Jackie, and I'm sure we'll get to more
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Speaker 2: on that throughout the show.
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Speaker 1: Let's get to some news.
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Speaker 2: A newsy day charging the mound with a big boy
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Speaker 2: contract for Kevin McGonagall. And we've got a big boy
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Speaker 2: guest right off the top here one of the stars
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Speaker 2: of Hot sheet on Baseball America and rights for BA,
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Speaker 2: Jeff Ponds, joining us right now. Jeff, good to see
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Speaker 2: you McGonagall hooking up with eight years and one hundred
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Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars on tax day. Maybe he saw
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Speaker 2: how much he was actually going to pull in on
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Speaker 2: the league minimum and said, you know what, one.
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Speaker 1: Fifty sounds good.
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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this deal and the real rush we've
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Speaker 2: had of extensions during the season right now for top
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Speaker 2: end prospects turned big leaguers.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think, you know, you look at it,
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Speaker 6: it's the biggest contract extension we've seen for technically a prospect.
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Speaker 6: He still has prospect status. It's not a contract where
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Speaker 6: he's signing after you know, they haven't seen him in
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Speaker 6: the big leagues. And I think, like we look at
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Speaker 6: the skills, you know, at the plate, we didn't have
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Speaker 6: a lot of doubt about what McGonagall could do, and
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Speaker 6: he's showing it, you know, in spades. He's hitting the
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Speaker 6: ball pretty hard, pretty consistently. The barrel rates fine, but
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Speaker 6: it's the underlying skills with McGonagall that's always kind of
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Speaker 6: been the selling point four point nine percent swinging strike rate.
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Speaker 6: In his first case of the big leagues, he's not
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Speaker 6: expanding the zone, making tons of contact in it. He
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Speaker 6: makes pitchers work for every out. I think you see
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Speaker 6: him grind out at bats and just the type of
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Speaker 6: hitter that he is. And then he's really versatile in
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Speaker 6: the field. I'm not gonna say he's gonna win a
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Speaker 6: Gold Glove at shortstop, but this is a guy that
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Speaker 6: has the ability to play second base, shortstop, third base,
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Speaker 6: all in an average or maybe slightly above average level
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Speaker 6: at peak. I think that's really valuable just in terms
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Speaker 6: of how you can build this team, how you can
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Speaker 6: put your lineup together from day to day. And he's just,
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Speaker 6: you know, he's a gritty Pennsylvania kid that you know,
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Speaker 6: just wants to go out there and win games. And
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Speaker 6: I think there's a lot to buy in here when
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Speaker 6: you're looking at a guy like McGonagall, And I think,
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Speaker 6: you know, the big thing I want to bring up is,
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Speaker 6: do you guys think that there is an impact in
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Speaker 6: terms of the labor stuff that's going to be down
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Speaker 6: the road as to why a lot of these contracts
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Speaker 6: are getting signed. You know, is there going to be
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Speaker 6: a salary cap our teams put potentially be trying to
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Speaker 6: buy years that maybe they're not going to get, you know,
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Speaker 6: in contracts or team control that they have now. I
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Speaker 6: kind of wonder if a lot of these really aggressive
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Speaker 6: extensions have something to do with, you know, the upcoming
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Speaker 6: you know, labor fight that's going to happen this offseason.
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Speaker 2: Jeff to other and you don't think so Kratz go ahead.
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Speaker 3: Not totally I mean, I can get really into big
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Speaker 3: conspiracy theories. My theory is there's a lot of money,
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Speaker 3: The market is flushed with money, and they're handing down
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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty million dollars to guys that you
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Speaker 3: just don't know what he's gonna become. Is Kevin McDonald
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Speaker 3: hit twelve home runs a year and make make one
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Speaker 3: hundred and forty one hundred and fifty million dollars, Like
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Speaker 3: I think teams are like, ah, there, the market is
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Speaker 3: flushed with money. They're giving Cooper Pratt fifty million dollars
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Speaker 3: for it in two thirty eight. In double A they're
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Speaker 3: given Cole Emerson, who I think it could be next
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Speaker 3: Chase Uttley type of player. Ninety million eight hasn't even
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Speaker 3: sniffed the big league, So I don't if there's anything,
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Speaker 3: If there's any conspiracy theory, I think there could be
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Speaker 3: something in the CBA where if you sign younger guys,
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Speaker 3: guys that you drafted, came up through your system, it
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Speaker 3: doesn't hit against the luxury tax threshold type of thing.
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Speaker 3: That's my only conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 2: The other thing to keep in mind is, yeah, there
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Speaker 2: are some stricter limitation on money, like a cap, you
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Speaker 2: would expect more of a blow up after the season
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Speaker 2: with free agency. Last time we had the lockout, a
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Speaker 2: lot of guys were signed right before that, not that
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Speaker 2: there was as much of a fight.
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Speaker 1: Looming over a cap.
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Speaker 2: But to me, Jeff, I mean, with the people I've
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Speaker 2: spoken to, it's mostly just, Hey, the bargain and surplus
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Speaker 2: value on guys like this is so worth the risk.
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Speaker 2: In so many cases here, everyone's basically just looking for
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Speaker 2: the Hey, eight years one hundred mil for Ronald Acunya Junior.
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Speaker 2: If he was a free agent, he would have made
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Speaker 2: over five hundred million dollars, right, He's flat, He's year
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Speaker 2: stuff like that. So I think that's a big factor.
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Speaker 2: The only other part I'll say, and then I'll kick
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Speaker 2: it to.
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Speaker 1: I know his question is could there be maybe a
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Speaker 1: limitation on years?
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Speaker 2: Right, if we actually do see some drastic change in
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Speaker 2: the league, do they say, okay, free agency starts a
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Speaker 2: year sooner. Right, there's not the six or seven year balance.
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Speaker 2: It's just six, but now it's going to five or
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Speaker 2: whatever it is. It could be much less. And then
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Speaker 2: you go down and you look and you're like, ah,
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Speaker 2: I got my guy, my superstar locked in for double
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Speaker 2: the years because that part's not going to change.
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Speaker 1: A contract is a contract that's firm.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think, like, if you're going to cap salaries,
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Speaker 6: you know, the players Association has to get something on
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Speaker 6: the other side. And I think getting guys to free
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Speaker 6: agency earlier is important. I think there's a lot of
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Speaker 6: players now that are good players that don't get to
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Speaker 6: free agency in their prime earning years, you know, twenty seven,
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Speaker 6: twenty eight, twenty nine years old, good players, guys that
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Speaker 6: are all stars, Like a guy like Brendan Dunovan's not
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Speaker 6: going to get the free agency until he's thirty one
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Speaker 6: or thirty two. You know that happens two years earlier,
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Speaker 6: he's probably making quite a bit more money, So you know,
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Speaker 6: it'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
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Speaker 6: I do think ultimately you're right, it's about surplus value.
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Speaker 6: It's about being able to get these guys under contract
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Speaker 6: and then looking back in two years and saying, yeah,
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Speaker 6: you know, Kevin McGonagall was worth X right now, but
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Speaker 6: we're only paying in this much. And you know, Roman Anthony,
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Speaker 6: we've seen so many of these sort of contracts over
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Speaker 6: the last couple of years, so really interesting to see
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Speaker 6: how it all comes together. I do believe in the player,
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Speaker 6: Kevin McGonagall. I think you look at the skills, I
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Speaker 6: think their power is going to come. I'm not too
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Speaker 6: worried about that. It's a guy that knows how to
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Speaker 6: backspin in the ball to his pull side and really
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Speaker 6: just is a super optimized profile at the plate and
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Speaker 6: strong enough defensively that you don't have questions as to like, Okay,
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Speaker 6: I worry about putting this guy in the field every
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Speaker 3: So, first of all, there's not gonna be a cap.
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Speaker 3: Second of all, you got me superjuiced because you said
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Speaker 3: a gritty Pennsylvania guy love that we should clip it
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Speaker 3: and just run it back and forth, gritty Pennsylvania guy
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Speaker 3: for all these soft new ins that are on the show.
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Speaker 3: But my question is where's the most value out of him?
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Speaker 3: Now they've locked in how much he costs. Where is
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Speaker 3: his most value is the fact that he's going to
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Speaker 3: be a guy that should play one hundred and sixty
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Speaker 3: two games bouncing around at different positions. Because to me,
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Speaker 3: I don't know that you're necessarily getting the value there
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Speaker 3: unless you build your lineup. Because you think about super showers,
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Speaker 3: you think about guys that are going to be on
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Speaker 3: the in the organization for eight years. You don't think, yeah,
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Speaker 3: he was a great utility guy. No, you think about
10:31
Speaker 3: great utility guys. Is Josh Harrison the guy that's we're
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Speaker 3: gonna have on later in the show.
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: I mean, but you also could think about in a
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Speaker 6: modern sense, Mookie Bets, right, Like, how valuable is Mooky
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Speaker 6: Bets to the Dodgers being able to, you know, build
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Speaker 6: that team the way they want to go after certain
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Speaker 6: free agents in the outfield, et cetera. I think it's
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Speaker 6: about flexibility, and you know that's something that I've heard
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Speaker 6: from team officials over the last couple of years. I
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Speaker 6: think the most value you're going to get from this guy,
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Speaker 6: and he's played mostly short stop to date, the most
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Speaker 6: val you're going to get out of this guy is
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Speaker 6: it's somebody's not going to strike out. It's a contact
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Speaker 6: hitter without being you know, a guy who constantly goes
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Speaker 6: the other way and kind of inside outs the ball
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Speaker 6: and just gets on basis this isn't Jacob Wilson. And
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Speaker 6: that's no disrespect to Jacob Wilson, but you know, you
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Speaker 6: look at a guy like this, this is somebody that
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Speaker 6: I think can be a super charge kind of Dustin
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Speaker 6: for drou And I know we're going to the dominiative
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Speaker 6: guy here, but just someone who swings hard can get
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Speaker 6: into his pullside and backspin. It makes really smart decisions
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Speaker 6: on the bases. Like he's just a heady baseball player too,
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Speaker 6: Like this is a baseball rat all right.
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Speaker 3: Now, the comparison, he got ten million extra dollars. He's
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Speaker 3: two years older then Connor Griffin. Compare them because of
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Speaker 3: Baseball America slighted Kevin McGonagall by putting him second. So
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Speaker 3: you guys did this, and he said, screw that. I'm
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Speaker 3: getting ten extra million even though I am two years older.
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Speaker 3: But compare the two of them and the future. But
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Speaker 3: also a little bit that they've done in the big
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Speaker 3: league so far.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, obviously we haven't seen the same production
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Speaker 6: at the plate from Griffin. He's a better defender. The
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Speaker 6: upside for what Griffin can be at shortstop, I think
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Speaker 6: is a Gold Glove caliber shortstop. This could be this
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Speaker 6: is a Bobby Witt junior kind of bucketed player, Like
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Speaker 6: that's the same sort of class a player that I think.
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Speaker 6: The upside is. Mcgonald just physically doesn't have those tools.
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Speaker 6: You know, Griffin isnt off the charts sort of athlete
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Speaker 6: on par with Bobby Wit Junior, Elie de la Cruz,
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Speaker 6: those kind of guys. Just the things that he can do.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I saw him in spring training, his first
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Speaker 6: spring training in center field. He was probably a seventy
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Speaker 6: out there. You know, like, this is a guy that
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Speaker 6: can be a plus plus defender potentially at multiple positions.
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Speaker 6: The approach is a little bit more raw. The direction
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Speaker 6: in terms of like the angles and that sort of
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Speaker 6: thing is a little bit more flat. Mcgonagall's just like
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Speaker 6: completely optimized. He's also a couple of years older, a
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Speaker 6: little longer along in his pro career. But I just
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Speaker 6: think you look at the overall tools, the overall upside,
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Speaker 6: and that's why you know, ultimately Griffin is the number
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Speaker 6: one prospect in baseball. And I think when we look at,
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Speaker 6: you know, the prospects that I've covered, you know, even
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Speaker 6: prior to my time at BA, probably going back eleven
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Speaker 6: years now, this is on par with the Kunya and
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Speaker 6: you know, these best prospects that we've covered, McGonagall is
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Speaker 6: not far off. I mean this probably it's him and
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Speaker 6: Vlad Junior are probably the two best minor league hit
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Speaker 6: tools that I've ever seen, just in terms of being
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Speaker 6: able to hit a variety of pitch shapes, pitch locations,
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Speaker 6: being able to adjust even when they're fooled. The hit
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Speaker 6: ability is there with Griffin. I think he'll continue to
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Speaker 6: make strides in that regard. He's really heady about how
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Speaker 6: he hits. I think you even saw that first double
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Speaker 6: in his debut and his dad's kind of talking about
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Speaker 6: that being Connor's corner and they're they're they're hitting in
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Speaker 6: the hit tracks and working on that sort of thing.
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's not like this guy's just showing up
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Speaker 6: to the park. You know, I don't want to sort
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Speaker 6: of underplay his work or you know, uh, the way
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Speaker 6: that he thinks about the game because it's very advanced.
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Speaker 6: You know, he's still young. I think there's still some
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Speaker 6: elements he's got less Upper Miners experience than McGonagall does,
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Speaker 6: but it but it will all come together. I mean
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Speaker 6: I saw a series where they played against each other
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Speaker 6: last September, and you know, there was no question Griffin
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Speaker 6: was the superior player in that series. Small sample sized stuff,
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Speaker 6: you know, go back to I guess I'm quoting Dustin
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Speaker 6: Perdrouya a lot today. But you go to back to Paedroya,
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Speaker 6: you know, talking about guys struggling and it's like figure
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Speaker 6: it out and it's laser show. I think we're going
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Speaker 6: to see that with with Griffin. We're going to see
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Speaker 6: this guy go off for a month and everything's gonna
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Speaker 6: be like, Aha, Okay, that's what they were seeing. Just
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Speaker 6: take some adjustment period, and hey, we should give him credit.
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Speaker 6: He got that. He got that amount of money out
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Speaker 6: of the Pirates. That's not easy to do.
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Speaker 3: No doubt, No doubt Pirates has some short arms there.
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Speaker 3: You know, they have the t Rex arms when it
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Speaker 3: comes to paying for stuff. But they paid him. But
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Speaker 3: also he did. Dustin Perdroya made one hundred and thirty
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Speaker 3: nine million dollars in his career and now McGonagall, who
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Speaker 3: my question is going to be about, is going to
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Speaker 3: make one hundred and fifty guaranteed. My question is where's
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Speaker 3: the floor? Because when you guys talk about and I
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Speaker 3: think we had JJ Cooper on he was talking about that,
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Speaker 3: we were talking about Griffin, we were talking about McGonagall,
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Speaker 3: and everybody talks about the ceiling. Bobby Witt is what
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Speaker 3: you said, where do you feel like the floor is?
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Speaker 3: Where could it go? Where could it go wrong? I
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Speaker 3: guess that sounds negative, but where could it go wrong
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Speaker 3: for McGonagall and the Tigers be like ugh, And you
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Speaker 3: can't use the word injury because injuries don't count, because
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Speaker 3: that's where everybody can have an injury.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, if the if the power
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Speaker 6: maybe doesn't progress or translate the way that we think
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Speaker 6: it does. I mean you kind of said it earlier,
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Speaker 6: you know, if he's more of like a mid teens
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Speaker 6: home run guy with a good, not great hit tool.
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Speaker 6: I think that's the concern, you know, the fact that
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Speaker 6: he could be be somewhat limited at shortstop and that
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Speaker 6: gets exposed eventually. I don't know if that's going to happen,
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Speaker 6: but it's certainly in the realm of possibility. I mean,
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Speaker 6: these guys could always underperform a little bit. We don't
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Speaker 6: typically see prospects at this level have floors that are
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Speaker 6: kind of below at least a multi time All star though.
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Speaker 6: We just don't really see that unless there's a massive injury.
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Speaker 6: So it's tough, you know. And I think the same
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Speaker 6: thing with Griffin, like maybe there's more strikeout more with
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Speaker 6: here than we think. The approach backs up a little bit,
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Speaker 6: but I still think in time that stuff is going
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Speaker 6: to get adjusted out. So maybe they're not superstars. They're
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Speaker 6: more really good players, more a fifty five versus a seventy.
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Speaker 4: Interesting interesting, good take there.
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Speaker 5: I want to talk you know, we've been talking about
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Speaker 5: McGonagall and others, but is there a prospect right now
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Speaker 5: that maybe on your radar that's been talked about that
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Speaker 5: is the next person to sign. I feel like there's
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Speaker 5: always a topple effect when this happens and other teams
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Speaker 5: are like, well, we got it, we got a cat
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Speaker 5: right now, maybe we'll start talking to him and get
16:57
Speaker 5: him going. So do you feel like there might be another,
16:59
Speaker 5: maybe one or two guys, And if so, who do
17:01
Speaker 5: you have in mind?
17:03
Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: I mean I think JJ weatherholt Is is kind of
17:06
Speaker 6: an obvious one. He's three on our board up in
17:09
Speaker 6: the big leagues. You know, homer last I think he
17:11
Speaker 6: had a multi homer game last night, actually performing at
17:14
Speaker 6: the plate. He's a really good defender at short, doesn't
17:18
Speaker 6: have doesn't isn't going to play short with the Cardinals
17:20
Speaker 6: because they have Mason Wynn. Of course, but a guy
17:24
Speaker 6: that you know, can be in plus second basement, probably
17:27
Speaker 6: an above average to plus third baseman. He runs really well,
17:31
Speaker 6: kind of does all those things really good makeup as well,
17:35
Speaker 6: kind of like a future clubhouse leadership kind of guy.
17:38
Speaker 6: I could see him signing an extension. I think the
17:41
Speaker 6: other one you have to look at here, and he's
17:43
Speaker 6: probably the air to the number one prospect thrown once
17:47
Speaker 6: Griffin McGonagall and weather Halt will graduate by probably the
17:50
Speaker 6: end of this month beginning of next month. Saesus made
17:54
Speaker 6: and we've already seen some track record with this with
17:56
Speaker 6: the Jackson Curio extension before he had debuted. It's probably
18:00
Speaker 6: a year out if he continues to do what he's
18:03
Speaker 6: doing in Double A as young as he is as
18:05
Speaker 6: a night you know, eighteen nineteen year old, it's a
18:09
Speaker 6: strong possibility this guy is up in the big leagues
18:12
Speaker 6: at nineteen twenty years old and signs for, you know,
18:16
Speaker 6: a pretty sizable extension. Honestly, any of these guys in
18:20
Speaker 6: the top twenty five at this point kind of all
18:24
Speaker 6: fit that that sort of profile of a player that
18:29
Speaker 6: could sign for an extended deal. It's just a matter of,
18:32
Speaker 6: you know, whether the agents want to do it, or
18:34
Speaker 6: the player wants to take that risk of going to
18:36
Speaker 6: free agency and you know, potentially striking it much bigger.
18:40
Speaker 1: And I will say this for the Brewers.
18:43
Speaker 2: Cooper Pratt signed before, who knows when he makes it
18:47
Speaker 2: to the big leagues. In addition to what you said
18:49
Speaker 2: with Churio, the Brewers are the perfect organization that if
18:52
Speaker 2: they're as in love with Jesus made as I would say,
18:54
Speaker 2: beyond just you and the industry has talked him up
18:58
Speaker 2: now for a couple of years. They are throwing money
19:02
Speaker 2: his way and seeing if he will catch anything there.
19:05
Speaker 2: We do have to jump so job, I'm gonna let
19:07
Speaker 2: you go because I want to bring him question to
19:09
Speaker 2: the crew here.
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Speaker 1: But really appreciate you hopping on.
19:12
Speaker 2: Thank you and congrats to Kevin McGonagall for making this happen,
19:16
Speaker 2: for this little combo.
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Speaker 6: Right, shout out to the Tigers and Kevin McGonagall making
19:20
Speaker 6: it happen.
19:21
Speaker 1: Good stuff, right, Thank you, Jeff.
19:23
Speaker 2: You can catch Jeff of course all over Baseball America's
19:26
Speaker 2: coverage and on hot sheet. I just want to bring
19:28
Speaker 2: it to Todd father into Krafts for a moment here too,
19:32
Speaker 2: before we hit the brake and then we'll keep rolling
19:34
Speaker 2: here on FT. But thanks to Jeff for popping on
19:36
Speaker 2: and giving us more info on Kevin McGonagall. Last thing here, guys,
19:39
Speaker 2: Todd father one late note that stood out to me.
19:44
Speaker 2: If he gets traded, he gets five million dollars. Any
19:49
Speaker 2: time he gets traded during the course of this deal,
19:51
Speaker 2: gets traded twice five million dollars.
19:53
Speaker 1: What does that do?
19:54
Speaker 2: That does create somewhat of a barrier to almost lead
19:59
Speaker 2: to a note trade class. Still looking into this and
20:04
Speaker 2: just something to keep in mind that there might be
20:06
Speaker 2: some teams have certain rules and restrictions with contracts and
20:08
Speaker 2: who they give no trades to and all of that.
20:10
Speaker 2: But that's the one part that just came in that
20:12
Speaker 2: really stood out to me too. Is you see assignment bonuses.
20:16
Speaker 2: They're called for five hundred k or a million bucks, five
20:18
Speaker 2: million dollars every time you try and trade my ass
20:22
Speaker 2: says Kevin McGonigal.
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Speaker 4: I love it because it helps out with the moving period.
20:28
Speaker 4: Five million dollars.
20:31
Speaker 1: What movers are you hiring, bro?
20:36
Speaker 4: He fantastic, Absolutely fantastic.
20:40
Speaker 5: You know you got some creative agencies out there that
20:43
Speaker 5: would think of stuff like that. That is beautiful. You
20:45
Speaker 5: want to trade me five million? How you doing? That's
20:48
Speaker 5: just in all in the day's work. I guess, so
20:50
Speaker 5: where do I sign? But yeah, it's interesting. Yeah. Usually
20:55
Speaker 5: guys are like, listen, if you don't pick up my contract,
20:58
Speaker 5: I get you know, a million dollars, million dollars, you know,
21:01
Speaker 5: team option, player option, all that stuff, go ahead and
21:04
Speaker 5: trade me. I've been traded three or four times. I
21:06
Speaker 5: would have made twenty million dollars. That's pretty cool exactly.
21:09
Speaker 4: That's why.
21:09
Speaker 2: And it's gonna tell a team. Hey, I mean, I
21:12
Speaker 2: don't know if this is worth the trade. Now do
21:13
Speaker 2: you see a world? Of course it should work out.
21:16
Speaker 2: He should be a franchise cornerstone for years to come.
21:18
Speaker 2: But it does provide some extra security that you even
21:24
Speaker 2: for a you know, a younger player for younger player move.
21:26
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen often, but if it did, it just
21:28
Speaker 2: it adds a little wrinkle there that would make teams
21:31
Speaker 2: second guess if they actually want to do something.
21:34
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, I want to be with the team.
21:36
Speaker 2: If they're not going to give me a no trade,
21:37
Speaker 2: I'm going to get a lot of money for being dealt.
21:41
Speaker 4: I love it.
21:42
Speaker 3: I love it. I've never heard of this. I mean
21:44
Speaker 3: I've heard small ones, but not like, hey, you don't
21:47
Speaker 3: want to give it no trade because everybody's like, yeah,
21:50
Speaker 3: no trade. I was part of the you know the
21:52
Speaker 3: thing with Boston. Yeah, they didn't want to add the
21:55
Speaker 3: no trade for Bregman. Obviously you don't want to get
21:58
Speaker 3: hung out to dry it. Be it a place that
21:59
Speaker 3: says gonna win and then they're not five million?
22:03
Speaker 4: Who trade?
22:05
Speaker 2: Me?
22:07
Speaker 4: Guys?
22:08
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Speaker 1: Hey, props to.
23:09
Speaker 2: Ken Lee Janson who is now all alone for third
23:13
Speaker 2: place in saves in Major League Baseball. So that updated
23:17
Speaker 2: number there, This is before it from Baseball World, but
23:21
Speaker 2: it's now for seventy nine. Lee Smith was at four
23:24
Speaker 2: seventy eight, tied with him, and now it's just Trevor
23:27
Speaker 2: Hoffman and Marianna Rivera to catch.
23:29
Speaker 1: Well, you've got a lot of work to do.
23:30
Speaker 2: He might get to five hundred, or he should get
23:32
Speaker 2: to five hundred this year, shutting things down for Detroit
23:36
Speaker 2: in a two to one comeback win late in the
23:38
Speaker 2: bottom of the eighth. But props name Todd Father. I'm
23:40
Speaker 2: sure he faced Ken Lee quite a bit and he's
23:42
Speaker 2: still kicking it pretty good.
23:45
Speaker 4: Yeah. I remember him as a catcher.
23:47
Speaker 5: I thought he his arm was absolutely amazing in rookie ball,
23:51
Speaker 5: A big target like Cratzy was to throw too. If
23:54
Speaker 5: I was a pitcher, I would love every second of it.
23:56
Speaker 5: And he said, you know what, they love it that much.
23:58
Speaker 5: I want to start throwing too. Became one of the
24:00
Speaker 5: most prolific closers. There is kudos to him throwing that cutter,
24:04
Speaker 5: big breaking ball.
24:07
Speaker 4: Yeah.
24:08
Speaker 5: Just a fun, loving guy man. And every time you
24:10
Speaker 5: talk to him, he gives you love. All those guys
24:12
Speaker 5: from you know, the Netherlands, all those guys Didi Grigoris
24:15
Speaker 5: is of the world. They are very very nice people.
24:19
Speaker 5: And you know, glad for him. He's still doing it,
24:22
Speaker 5: still doing it. I don't know how he is, but
24:25
Speaker 5: happy for him. And this is really good stuff.
24:29
Speaker 2: Here we are talking more about injury updates. Some good
24:32
Speaker 2: ones for the Blue Jays. Jose Brios is making rehab
24:36
Speaker 2: start and before that, trey Is Savage is pitching in
24:39
Speaker 2: Triple A today. He's going for about four in sixty
24:43
Speaker 2: five pitches. If it goes well, he's back in the
24:46
Speaker 2: big leagues.
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Speaker 1: That'll help. That's gonna be a huge boost. And he
24:51
Speaker 1: was the.
24:51
Speaker 2: Darling rookie for Toronto fans. Then you go to Brios
24:57
Speaker 2: rehab start single a Dunedin that's happening to tomorrow. Three
25:01
Speaker 2: pitches or sorry, fifty pitches three innings is the plan
25:05
Speaker 2: for him more than three pitches. Big news though, And
25:08
Speaker 2: they think that he is. This is Keegan Matheson who
25:10
Speaker 2: covers the team for MLB. They think he's one or
25:12
Speaker 2: two starts behind you, Savage. So you have two nice
25:16
Speaker 2: pieces about to return. And you know what I just
25:19
Speaker 2: read the other day too, guys for Brios that was
25:22
Speaker 2: caught during the World Baseball Classic physicals and I was
25:25
Speaker 2: one that gave the WBC insurance and all that a
25:27
Speaker 2: little bit of flak because they were denying everyone. Some
25:30
Speaker 2: of the guys they were denying ended up making sense,
25:31
Speaker 2: like with Brios todd father. They found it was like
25:34
Speaker 2: a bone fracture or a bone chip or something like that.
25:36
Speaker 2: With Brios, so he had a legit injury. He's just asymptomatic.
25:39
Speaker 2: He's never felt anything from it.
25:42
Speaker 5: Isn't that crazy? I mean, having an injury, who's the pitcher?
25:47
Speaker 5: I think it's the knuckleball guy that had a no
25:50
Speaker 5: UCL nerve in there? What deck was his nicky Dicky. Yeah,
25:54
Speaker 5: I mean, and everybody was afraid to take him out.
25:56
Speaker 5: That's the first person that I thought of. But yeah,
26:00
Speaker 5: the Blue Jays, you know, they've been kind of you know,
26:03
Speaker 5: you talk about them with the White Sox. They got
26:04
Speaker 5: swept by that team, very just unlike Blue Jays, you know,
26:10
Speaker 5: team so to get a couple guys back, to get
26:13
Speaker 5: them kickstart and see some new faces back in there
26:15
Speaker 5: that you know, can help the club, can only kind
26:17
Speaker 5: of rejuvenate the squad moving forward in this wild little
26:22
Speaker 5: al least, which is all over the place, with the
26:24
Speaker 5: Yankees losing five in a row and then you know,
26:27
Speaker 5: finally coming back and winning a crazy game the other
26:29
Speaker 5: day and then losing yesterday, so and the Orioles going
26:32
Speaker 5: back and forth. So in the Red Sox, we don't
26:34
Speaker 5: know what's going on there. It's just very interesting.
26:37
Speaker 3: That's what he said.
26:38
Speaker 1: That's what he said. That's what he said. That's what
26:42
Speaker 1: he said.
26:45
Speaker 2: All right, So we got a couple of things. Let's
26:47
Speaker 2: start with Jaron Duran. He said a fan yelled at
26:51
Speaker 2: him and told him to kill himself.
26:54
Speaker 1: That's not cool.
26:56
Speaker 2: And Jaren was very open about some mental health struggles.
27:00
Speaker 2: He went through that came out last year when he
27:03
Speaker 2: documented how there was a time when he considered taking
27:06
Speaker 2: his own life. A fan was trying to take advantage
27:08
Speaker 2: of that, and Jaren put up the middle finger. I
27:13
Speaker 2: think it goes without saying that that fan's a loser
27:17
Speaker 2: and should be banned from games forever, and Alex Chorus
27:19
Speaker 2: said that after the game too, Red Sox manager Jaren said,
27:24
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff is still kind of triggering.
27:26
Speaker 1: It happens.
27:26
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's my fault for talking about my mental health.
27:29
Speaker 2: I kind of brought in the haters. See that part
27:31
Speaker 2: sucks too, todd because then we always want players to
27:34
Speaker 2: be open and talk about whatever's going on and find
27:37
Speaker 2: out more about their story than a fan is trying
27:40
Speaker 2: to take advantage of that. So hopefully they find the
27:44
Speaker 2: fan and ban him for life or her, whoever it was.
27:47
Speaker 2: But I think it was a dude, he said. And
27:50
Speaker 2: then also I'd like to point out that I don't
27:53
Speaker 2: think Jaren should be punished for doing that.
27:56
Speaker 1: I don't know if he will be, but I don't
27:58
Speaker 1: think he should be.
28:00
Speaker 4: Agreed.
28:01
Speaker 5: Agreed, He's very it's after he came out with all this,
28:05
Speaker 5: he's very vulnerable.
28:06
Speaker 4: To any and everything.
28:10
Speaker 5: It's a shame that people feel like because they're you know,
28:14
Speaker 5: their lives are bad, they got to take it out
28:16
Speaker 5: on other people. This is shameful, it's disrespectful. You know,
28:22
Speaker 5: the guy's been through a lot, you know, and a
28:24
Speaker 5: lot that we probably don't even know about it. And
28:27
Speaker 5: he's right, you know, he's susceptible now to any little
28:31
Speaker 5: thing because people know about his life. And that's why
28:33
Speaker 5: most people like himself, like myself, like others, they don't
28:37
Speaker 5: want too much to be brought out to the public
28:40
Speaker 5: because guess what, it always backfires on you. And shame
28:43
Speaker 5: on these fans that think that it's okay for this people,
28:46
Speaker 5: for them to say stuff like this.
28:49
Speaker 4: You know, I feel for him.
28:51
Speaker 5: I feel for him, and it's you know, this probably
28:53
Speaker 5: won't be the last time this happens.
28:54
Speaker 4: Hopefully it is.
28:56
Speaker 5: I can understand his frustrations, and you know, people, just
29:02
Speaker 5: be better, man, Just be better. Just watch a game,
29:04
Speaker 5: scream for your team and you know, yell at y'all
29:08
Speaker 5: that was all that was a strike, you know, stuff
29:10
Speaker 5: like that, man, and just enjoy the game.
29:12
Speaker 7: I mean, even going back to high school basketball games,
29:15
Speaker 7: they find out kids' names of kids girlfriends or kids moms,
29:20
Speaker 7: and they chant it when they're at the line.
29:23
Speaker 3: Fans will always be fans in that way. Fans need
29:27
Speaker 3: to understand when there's a line. Fans need to understand
29:31
Speaker 3: that that line is different for certain guys. It's ironic.
29:34
Speaker 3: We're talking about this on Jackie Robinson Day. If you
29:36
Speaker 3: ever seen the movie forty two, from what I'm told
29:40
Speaker 3: from the different guys, from the negro leagues who played
29:43
Speaker 3: during that time, the things that were said in the
29:46
Speaker 3: movie and we're very disturbing, but from what I was told,
29:50
Speaker 3: and you hear stories of guys that made that transition,
29:53
Speaker 3: like the movie was kind of subdued. The movie was
29:57
Speaker 3: kind of it didn't really hit it. So there's always lines.
30:01
Speaker 3: And if fans choose to dehumanize players like this, whether
30:07
Speaker 3: that person was just telling him to kill himself because
30:10
Speaker 3: he's like, he's pissed at Duran didn't get a hit,
30:12
Speaker 3: or he just wanted to get on him, it's really
30:15
Speaker 3: bad timing. If that fan was attacking him because of
30:19
Speaker 3: his vulnerability, about the fact that he that he dealt
30:22
Speaker 3: with mental mental struggles and that he thought about suicide,
30:27
Speaker 3: he had suicidal tendencies then that's just it's unacceptable, and
30:33
Speaker 3: it is un it's unfathomable that somebody, a human, would
30:37
Speaker 3: say something like that, and people need to stop dehumanizing
30:42
Speaker 3: these athletes who they put on a pedestal and then say,
30:46
Speaker 3: why didn't that guy sign my autograph? Why don't we
30:49
Speaker 3: ever hear from players? Why don't we ever like all
30:52
Speaker 3: this stuff like? And it might not be the same
30:55
Speaker 3: people that are saying it, but the fans around them.
30:58
Speaker 3: You know what, you step up and say something to
31:02
Speaker 3: that fan. You could step up and stand up for somebody,
31:04
Speaker 3: even if Jared Duran's not you're on your team, you
31:08
Speaker 3: can step up. The reason that kind of stuff happens
31:11
Speaker 3: is because that guy, because I heard it was a guy,
31:14
Speaker 3: gets a laugh from two or three people around him.
31:17
Speaker 3: You know what, if ten people around him say, you
31:20
Speaker 3: know what, grow up, you can leave our area. We're
31:23
Speaker 3: trying to enjoy this game. He's not even on our team.
31:26
Speaker 3: But what you just said to that guy is trash,
31:29
Speaker 3: and I think that would stop these things. And it's ironic.
31:34
Speaker 3: We're talking about this on Jackie Robinson Day, where he
31:38
Speaker 3: endured some of the worst ridicule that you'll ever hear
31:41
Speaker 3: on a ball field.
31:43
Speaker 4: Yeah.
31:44
Speaker 2: One more quote here, Glex Chorus said, like I said
31:46
Speaker 2: last year, for him, Durant open up. He saved lives, right,
31:50
Speaker 2: So bigger picture and play. We did have one fan
31:53
Speaker 2: in the chat, JD said, if you're letting anything a
31:56
Speaker 2: fan say to you get to you, or anything a
31:59
Speaker 2: fan say get to you, you're soft. You guys both played.
32:04
Speaker 2: You guys are both pretty tough and strong. We got
32:07
Speaker 2: Jersey tough Todd father, and I think Krafts could probably
32:11
Speaker 2: take out half of the UFC fighters that are out
32:13
Speaker 2: there right now, So I would consider you guys not soft, Todd.
32:19
Speaker 1: What would your reply be to that?
32:22
Speaker 5: Literally they want yeah, And that's that's that's the problem.
32:27
Speaker 4: You know, back in the day, that's okay that you can.
32:30
Speaker 5: Call somebody soft. But I don't care how big and
32:33
Speaker 5: strong you are. I don't care how mentally tough you are.
32:37
Speaker 5: Words to hurt, they do hurt, and you might keep
32:40
Speaker 5: it inside. I you know, I still don't forget some
32:42
Speaker 5: of the stuff that people said. I let it go,
32:45
Speaker 5: of course, but I'll never I'll never forget it. So
32:48
Speaker 5: to sell somebody go kill yourself is that you're being soft?
32:52
Speaker 5: I mean, that's actually scary, truthfully, So you don't know
32:56
Speaker 5: what's on that person's mind for so that guy to
32:58
Speaker 5: say that you're in the wrong bute.
33:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, big miss, big miss by that guy. Like soft, like,
33:07
Speaker 3: that's that's not soft. I'm not condoning at all what
33:11
Speaker 3: Jaron Duran did. He should not have responded, and he
33:14
Speaker 3: even said that in his quote he should not have responded.
33:18
Speaker 3: But soft, it's not soft, like, that's not like it's
33:23
Speaker 3: soft for you to say that that's soft.
33:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's still going. Fans are me and
33:29
Speaker 2: you got to deal with it. You're making a lot
33:30
Speaker 2: of money, blah blah blah. But let's not mistake this.
33:34
Speaker 2: Can fans say a lot of things? Can fans say
33:36
Speaker 2: that a player's terrible, Like you can throw a lot
33:39
Speaker 2: of things out there, and yes, I do agree players
33:41
Speaker 2: should be able to take that and that is part
33:43
Speaker 2: of the job.
33:44
Speaker 1: But to say that there's no.
33:45
Speaker 2: Line at all that exists from person to person, that's
33:50
Speaker 2: too far. Yeah, I mean talking trash cool love it. Hey,
33:54
Speaker 2: your team's trash or you're not good or whatever, right
33:57
Speaker 2: or even you know in other sports where there's actually
33:59
Speaker 2: more physical commack like football, So they say like I'm
34:02
Speaker 2: going to crush you, blah blah blah.
34:03
Speaker 1: Cool, But there's still.
34:05
Speaker 2: A line here where you're telling someone to kill themself
34:08
Speaker 2: or a death threat. Like those are the lines that
34:10
Speaker 2: I feel like are pretty reasonable for everyone to understand.
34:14
Speaker 3: There's a line. There's a line, And I joke about
34:16
Speaker 3: it all the time. I'm like, it takes a lot
34:19
Speaker 3: to offend me, Like it takes a lot to say
34:22
Speaker 3: about me. It would take a lot less for you
34:25
Speaker 3: for me to hear you say it about somebody else
34:27
Speaker 3: for me to get pissed off and offended. Like I
34:30
Speaker 3: just my joke is, I don't have any feelings. Minor
34:34
Speaker 3: leagues killed my feelings. I spent thirteen years in the
34:36
Speaker 3: minor leagues, and I'm my feelings are dead inside. But
34:39
Speaker 3: it just takes a lot to offend certain people. And
34:42
Speaker 3: if it offends somebody what you're saying, like, that's not
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Speaker 3: a that's not like, oh great job, look at that
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Speaker 3: you offended him.
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Speaker 4: That's tired.
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Speaker 3: That's so, that's so tired. Don't try to find a
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Speaker 3: way to offend somebody.
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Speaker 8: But the fans booing him after you save thirty game
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Speaker 8: for this team. A kid that's been through all that
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Speaker 8: he's been through, and what he did the year before
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Speaker 8: for us to help us win the division, and then
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Speaker 8: what he did last year and then came out with
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Speaker 8: an arm injury and still pitched and pitched one of
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Speaker 8: the biggest innings of the.
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Speaker 4: Game five.
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Speaker 8: And for them to be booing him up there, that's
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Speaker 8: just not our best fans.
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Speaker 4: That's for sure.
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Speaker 8: We have the great fans, but let's remind them of that.
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Speaker 8: Are they okay to be disappointed? But sometimes young men
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Speaker 8: go through tough stuff. I was disappointed and that those
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Speaker 8: people wouldn't support him when he's going through that stuff.
35:36
Speaker 8: Does he probably care? And now is it expected? That's fine,
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Speaker 8: but let's not be These aren't machines out there.
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Speaker 4: These are people.
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Speaker 8: I thought that was in poor taste, but I've done
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Speaker 8: things in poor taste too.
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Speaker 2: So hey, that's Pat Murphy, Brewer's manager talking about mcgil.
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Speaker 2: You know, blown save Brewers lose the game, getting booed.
35:58
Speaker 2: I love the passion and MRC's usually hilarious todd father,
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Speaker 2: but I actually do respectfully disagree with Murph if we're
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Speaker 2: actually having the real combo. I mean, I don't love it,
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Speaker 2: but the fans have the right to do it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, we talk about this all the time. Bobashett
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Speaker 2: played like one minute in New York and they started
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Speaker 2: doing him. I think it's kind of dumb, but I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to like ream the fans out for expressing that.
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Speaker 5: Well, he's a manager. He's got his guys back first
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Speaker 5: and foremost.
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Speaker 4: I think.
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Speaker 5: I think it's great that he stepped up for his guy.
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Speaker 5: I gotta be honest with you, you know, to get
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Speaker 5: booed over, you know what happened and what occurred. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: nobody wants to get booed He's frustrated too. I mean
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Speaker 5: you think there's some frustration too that, hey man, these
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Speaker 5: fans home fans should have his back on a mist
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Speaker 5: you know, save opportunity, all that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, Scott.
36:53
Speaker 5: Fans could do what they want, but so can a
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Speaker 5: manager too, and he's going to have his players back.
36:58
Speaker 5: And I that's what you love about him. Manager, you're
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Speaker 5: in somebody that's leading your ball club.
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Speaker 1: That's a good way to put a crats. I like both.
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Speaker 2: I like Murph saying that, and I'm okay with fans
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Speaker 2: being displeased, even if they're jumping the gun or they're
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Speaker 2: not thinking about what he did last year. I mean
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Speaker 2: many fan bases across the country don't. Don't consider that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yo, your fraser, Yo, I'm from brick Township.
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Speaker 4: Yo, you suck. Give me a ball that is going
37:26
Speaker 4: on here.
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Speaker 3: That's that's that's like the Yankees fans forever, like they
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Speaker 3: they love they love doing that with like yo Yo,
37:34
Speaker 3: I'm like yo, I'm like from that township right here,
37:37
Speaker 3: you brick township, brick Township, Yo, you suck. Give me
37:40
Speaker 3: a ball. My cousin's birthday.
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Speaker 1: Todd Father, we have a tweet.
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Speaker 2: From the team that you think is going to lose tonight,
38:30
Speaker 2: and the owner sent his analysis in via Twitter. Steve
38:36
Speaker 2: Cohen said, nobody likes to lose, but I saw some
38:39
Speaker 2: green shoots tonight. On offense, lind Or two hits, including
38:41
Speaker 2: a homer, but Sheck got a double hitting it to
38:43
Speaker 2: left as opposed to recently being right field prone. Bench
38:45
Speaker 2: got a solid hit. Soto started his running progression today.
38:47
Speaker 2: Semion hit a shot that might have been a home
38:49
Speaker 2: run on a warmer night. Finally, Nolan McLean pitched out
38:52
Speaker 2: standing game, going seven innings, hanging their fans.
38:54
Speaker 1: We will turn this around talking.
38:56
Speaker 2: About Yeah, Lindor getting on the board for the first time,
38:59
Speaker 2: Homer and RBI, Todd Father, but ultimately Yamamoto shut them
39:04
Speaker 2: down for most of the rest of the game. Luis
39:05
Speaker 2: Robert Kay in a huge spot against Blake, trying late
39:09
Speaker 2: in the game when they took out Yamamoto and Song
39:12
Speaker 2: and Dance and that's it.
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Speaker 1: Edmund Diaz.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing that would have made it
39:15
Speaker 2: perfect is if Edmund Diaz closed the door against them.
39:17
Speaker 1: For the Dodgers, I'm saying, but Diez.
39:20
Speaker 2: You know, he had thrown a bullpen, he hadn't pitched
39:22
Speaker 2: in a lot, whatever, But Bessie has shut the door.
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Speaker 1: What do you think of the owner chiming in? Does
39:27
Speaker 1: that make you feel good? Bad? Or don't care?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: I mean I guess a little bit of both. But
39:35
Speaker 5: you're not winning games, so I guess they're trying to
39:37
Speaker 5: find the good out of everything that has gone wrong. Yeah,
39:41
Speaker 5: these are good points, of course, I'm not knocking them
39:44
Speaker 5: for that, but ultimately you're not winning the game. So
39:50
Speaker 5: that's where the frustrating part comes in. If you're a fan,
39:52
Speaker 5: you're like, Okay, great, why aren't we winning? Why aren't
39:55
Speaker 5: we scoring? That's baseball. You're gonna line out, you're gonna
39:58
Speaker 5: hit one to the wall, You're gonna hit a double
40:01
Speaker 5: with nobody on and still not get a guy in. Okay,
40:04
Speaker 5: So you can look at the good, but there's also bad.
40:06
Speaker 5: When somebody hits a double with and nobody scores him in,
40:09
Speaker 5: then that's a bad thing. So it's kind of like
40:12
Speaker 5: splitting hairs a little bit, but ultimately you're not winning games,
40:15
Speaker 5: so that should be the more frustrating Party's.
40:19
Speaker 2: Racking some injury updates in the commercial break, trying to
40:23
Speaker 2: keep Toad awake. So here's your caffeine shot. I mean
40:26
Speaker 2: it's not a great one. But Parker Meadows surgery on
40:29
Speaker 2: his broken arm, you know, had the ugly collision. He's
40:32
Speaker 2: expected to miss multiple months. Aj Hinch said, no official timeline.
40:36
Speaker 2: He said, I do expect him to be competitive again
40:39
Speaker 2: this season.
40:42
Speaker 1: That's a weird way to put it.
40:45
Speaker 4: Compete.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I guess it's better way of saying playing.
40:53
Speaker 4: I don't know, interesting interesting.
40:58
Speaker 1: Wordsmith he is, yea, So why do you think he
41:01
Speaker 1: said that, krat.
41:03
Speaker 3: Because maybe that arm isn't going to be one hundred
41:05
Speaker 3: percent healthy. But there's other ways that Parker Meadows can
41:09
Speaker 3: affect this team, Like if you're you know, the severity
41:13
Speaker 3: of the break. We don't know, we're not in there
41:15
Speaker 3: in surgery, but the severity of the break might not
41:17
Speaker 3: enable his you know, him to swing the back the
41:21
Speaker 3: same and he'll be able to be a defensive replacement.
41:25
Speaker 3: Like I think it's aj aj does a great job
41:28
Speaker 3: of not giving us just garbage answers, like it's an
41:33
Speaker 3: honest answer without saying what it possibly could be. You know,
41:37
Speaker 3: so I think he I think he did a good
41:39
Speaker 3: job of that. And Parker Meadows in center field is
41:42
Speaker 3: no joke. But they're very lucky that they have a
41:44
Speaker 3: guy like Jabi Baias who can go out to centerfield
41:47
Speaker 3: and run around like he's twenty three years old. Like
41:50
Speaker 3: it's a big loss for the Tigers. Not that Parker
41:53
Speaker 3: Meadows is, you know, a guy that's gonna hit three hundred,
41:56
Speaker 3: but it's defensively that dude can absolutely go get it
42:00
Speaker 3: out there.
42:13
Speaker 1: All right, this is a good one.
42:14
Speaker 2: We have some sound prepared from yesterday and we're ready
42:18
Speaker 2: to run it on Mike Trout appearing on the field
42:22
Speaker 2: and giving a shout out to our very own Todd father.
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Speaker 9: I always give him crap because he was the second
42:29
Speaker 9: best player to come out in New Jersey, so that's
42:32
Speaker 9: always fun. But uh, Scott of report, I love watching
42:36
Speaker 9: him play. He was obviously when I got drafted, he
42:40
Speaker 9: was a little bit older, but uh to be able
42:42
Speaker 9: to you know, come from Jersey, Uh to pool for
42:45
Speaker 9: each other and obviously over the years we got some Uh,
42:47
Speaker 9: some good bondage and friendships. So you know seeing him,
42:52
Speaker 9: you know, compete and you know he's always come up
42:54
Speaker 9: with them big hits, and uh, it was fun to
42:57
Speaker 9: watch him, you know, play with him.
43:00
Speaker 1: That's Mike Trap talking about Todd Fodder.
43:04
Speaker 5: We always talk about first and second best. We all
43:08
Speaker 5: know who the first best is and that's definitely not
43:11
Speaker 5: me for sure.
43:12
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, man, I get I get more.
43:17
Speaker 5: People will recognize him, probably more, but I get more,
43:20
Speaker 5: I get more love.
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Speaker 4: I'll die on that. They actually asked.
43:24
Speaker 5: If we go to a diner, you know who people
43:26
Speaker 5: are gonna come up to first, and oh, look at trouble,
43:29
Speaker 5: Hey fresh, come over here. I would get the respect,
43:32
Speaker 5: he'll get the notoriety. I'll die in that one because
43:37
Speaker 5: they love me in my area. Okay, so back off, Mike.
43:41
Speaker 3: I saw both of these dudes, Todd and Mike.
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Speaker 4: I got it.
43:45
Speaker 3: I couldn't bring it on here it's connected to the wall,
43:48
Speaker 3: but I got a chest protector with both their autographs on.
43:51
Speaker 3: We played together in twenty ten. Mike was like a baby.
43:54
Speaker 3: I think he was still learning to drive, and he followed.
43:59
Speaker 3: He followed, so Todd around like just a little baby.
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Speaker 4: Little baby. Now I'm following him around. That's terrible.
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Speaker 2: Yes, bonding, not bondage the words bonding, texting that bonding,
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Speaker 2: he said, bonding, Be careful, h