Latest / Best of Business / Jenee Tibshraeny: NZ Herald Wellington business editor on the Government's proposed changes to consumer finance laws
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- 0:16Speaker 2: News Talk ZB. It is six seventeen. The government we're
- 0:19Speaker 2: going back to parliament weirdly now and apparently the fire
- 0:22Speaker 2: alarm is over, but there's a party happening somewhere. The
- 0:25Speaker 2: government is making a change to our consumer finance laws.
- 0:27Speaker 2: This is interesting because it could actually affect a class
- 0:31Speaker 2: action lawsuit. It could quash a huge class action lawsuit
- 0:35Speaker 2: against a n z an ASB bank. Jenetip Training is
- 0:38Speaker 2: the heralds Wellington Business editor with us. Hey, Jana, Hey Ryan,
- 0:41Speaker 2: how's that? Are you near that party? Is that what
- 0:43Speaker 2: I can hear in the background.
- 0:44Speaker 3: I'm near the party, but I'm unfortunately not at the party.
- 0:49Speaker 3: So if anyone hears any noise, I'm not at the party.
- 0:51Speaker 3: I'm talking about consumer finance law instead, which is obviously
- 0:55Speaker 3: much better.
- 0:56Speaker 2: No wonder you're not at the party exactly. Hey, remind
- 1:00Speaker 2: us what this lawsuit is. What's the crux of it?
- 1:03Speaker 3: Okay, So basically, under the current law, if your bank
- 1:07Speaker 3: or other lender gives you a loan but gives you
- 1:10Speaker 3: the wrong information about that loan. The default position is
- 1:15Speaker 3: you can get them to reimburse you all your interest
- 1:18Speaker 3: costs and other costs that you've paid for the time
- 1:21Speaker 3: that they gave you the wrong information. So that's like
- 1:24Speaker 3: if you go and use a mortgage calculator and it
- 1:27Speaker 3: spouts out one number, but they actually charge you another
- 1:30Speaker 3: number in another figure. You know that that is a
- 1:34Speaker 3: bad thing by the lender. And currently the default position
- 1:38Speaker 3: is that you can get all your interests in other
- 1:40Speaker 3: costs reimbursed. So there's currently a class action before the
- 1:44Speaker 3: courts because more than one hundred and fifty thousand people
- 1:48Speaker 3: have received the wrong information from A and Z and
- 1:51Speaker 3: ASB in the past, and this class action is trying
- 1:55Speaker 3: to get interest costs reimbursed for all these people. So
- 1:58Speaker 3: it could be hundreds of millions of dollars, possibly even
- 2:02Speaker 3: billions of dollars that these two banks have to repay
- 2:06Speaker 3: their customers. That is currently going through the courts, But
- 2:11Speaker 3: the government is looking to change the law in such
- 2:14Speaker 3: a way that that court case will be affected. It's
- 2:17Speaker 3: worried that the law is too heavy handed and that
- 2:21Speaker 3: the penalty that these banks face is disproportionate to the
- 2:25Speaker 3: mistake that they made.
- 2:27Speaker 2: That's a pretty unusual call for a government to make,
- 2:29Speaker 2: isn't it. I mean, this is a private business. They've
- 2:33Speaker 2: made a mistake, well, potentially made a mistake. Obviously the
- 2:35Speaker 2: courts will decide that, But why would the government want
- 2:38Speaker 2: to get involved?
- 2:40Speaker 3: Yeah, So, look, I think the government is worried that
- 2:43Speaker 3: if the penalty is disproportionate, that will make lenders to
- 2:49Speaker 3: risk averse and also add to their costs. Like if
- 2:53Speaker 3: these banks have to pay you know, hundreds of millions
- 2:56Speaker 3: of dollars we end up paying that they end up
- 2:59Speaker 3: passing those costs onto their customers. The government's also worried
- 3:03Speaker 3: that if a small lender, like a little finance company
- 3:05Speaker 3: was hit by this, it could really cripple and make
- 3:08Speaker 3: it harder for them to compete with the big banks.
- 3:11Speaker 3: So basically, the one hundred and fifty thousand bank customers
- 3:15Speaker 3: have already received some redress for the mistakes that the
- 3:18Speaker 3: bank's made, But the issue that's kind of being debated
- 3:22Speaker 3: now is, you know, whether they deserve to be compensated
- 3:25Speaker 3: more for those breaches. So it is a pretty unusual
- 3:30Speaker 3: situation for the government to change the law and make
- 3:33Speaker 3: it apply to something in the past and not only that,
- 3:36Speaker 3: but make it apply to something that is actually before
- 3:38Speaker 3: the courts.
- 3:39Speaker 2: Yeah, really interesting move, Jenat, thanks for walking us through that.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Jenae Tip training in zidherld's Wellington Business editor
- 3:45Speaker 2: outside a party at Parliament and Wellington.
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