Latest / The Scene Projects / Kevin Feldman on Nonprofits, Youth Empowerment, and Building Community Impact
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- 0:22Welcome in to another exciting episode of Real Biz.
- 0:25I'm your host Bubba Starts, and I'm joined today by my friend and fundraising
- 0:29professional, Kevin Feldman.
- 0:31Kevin, welcome to the show.
- 0:33Thank you, Bubba.
- 0:34Nice to be here.
- 0:36Well, it's a pleasure to speak with you again.
- 0:38Obviously, my work with operation combating veteran suicide, I know the nonprofit space a
- 0:43little bit, but you've spent an entire career inside it.
- 0:47And, you're still helping nonprofits today to, you know, to hone in their skills on the
- 0:54fundraising side, which I think anyone who works in this space realizes how difficult that
- 1:00can be.
- 1:00But before we get into everything that you're doing now, you know, as a professional and
- 1:04freelancer, would love to get a little bit of your backstory out there and have you tell
- 1:10people, how you started in the space.
- 1:13Sure.
- 1:14Well, I I appreciate it.
- 1:15Yeah.
- 1:16You know, frankly, I was raised in a single parent home.
- 1:21And and so we were relatively a low income household like there are so many in The USA and
- 1:30around the world.
- 1:31And so, know, we had certain needs and and, you know, poverty was always something that was at
- 1:38my heart even as a child.
- 1:41And I I I was fortunate in that opportunities through work and education.
- 1:48I started working early even as I was in starting high school, you know, had pretty much
- 1:56a full time job and went to school.
- 1:59And through that, learned a lot of sales skills, marketing skills, and after after high
- 2:08school, went to college and focused on marketing and communications.
- 2:14And I eventually wound up because, you know, my my family history over generations was involved
- 2:23in the auto industry.
- 2:24I'm originally from Detroit, Michigan.
- 2:26And and so I I wound up having a job as an as an art director for GMC Truck in Pontiac,
- 2:37Michigan, and I had a staff of about eight eight people at any given time.
- 2:44And but during that time and even before that time, you know, was involved in volunteer work.
- 2:51And most of my volunteer work was done in nursing homes, working with the elderly, and
- 3:02and then I because I was raised in boy scouting, boy scouting was extremely important
- 3:09to my upbringing, and I will always be grateful to the scouting organization.
- 3:14I became a scout leader.
- 3:16And it it just so happened that the greatest need at the time, because I put my feelers out
- 3:22there and contacted the the local boy scout office in my area, and was a a boy scout troop,
- 3:31troop three ninety, in the Detroit area.
- 3:35And troop three ninety was a boy scout troop, one of the only one of the few in the country
- 3:40at that time that served developmentally disabled and physically disabled boys and young
- 3:49men and some older men, as a matter of fact.
- 3:53And so I I I never worked with the disabled.
- 3:58And so I I said, yeah.
- 4:00You know, sign me up.
- 4:01Let's let me give it a try.
- 4:03And and I I I love the experience and was with was with the scouting organization with troop
- 4:12three ninety for about about fourteen years serving as a scout leader.
- 4:19Eventually became the scout master of troop three ninety.
- 4:23And and soon after, though, working at at volunteering for the boy scouts, I always loved
- 4:31horses, and I and I was asked by a local attorney if I'd be interested in volunteering
- 4:37as a therapeutic horseback riding instructor.
- 4:41And and so I I I thought, well, you know, by golly, if I get to work with horses and also
- 4:49work with with children and adults with disabilities, help helping helping them to
- 4:56improve by by teaching them how to ride and and helping them, I said, let's do that too.
- 5:03And so while I was working at General Motors, GMC truck operation, and and I was also I, you
- 5:10know, I was also volunteering for two great organizations, the Boy Scouts of America, the
- 5:16four h clubs.
- 5:17And and my my love and I was in my twenties at the time, my my late twenties.
- 5:24I I I said, you know, Lord, I wanna I wanna do this as a as a profession, just helping helping
- 5:32people.
- 5:33And and so, you know, I I was single.
- 5:37I didn't have a lot of expenses other than rent and and a car payment.
- 5:41And I said, you know, I'm going to I'm gonna leave General Motors and go work for a
- 5:47nonprofit organization.
- 5:50And by golly, as I was representing the Boy Scouts at a conference, locally, a a wonderful,
- 5:58young lady, Mary Kennedy, worked who worked for the Metropolitan Detroit Youth Foundation in
- 6:05the inner city of Detroit, happened to stop by my booth where I was was one of one of the
- 6:12people volunteering for the Boy Scouts serving at this conference.
- 6:17And after talking with Mary, Mary said, Kevin, you would be ideal for a position we have
- 6:24opened with the Metropolitan Detroit Youth Foundation.
- 6:27Would you be interested in applying?
- 6:29And I said, absolutely, Mary.
- 6:32And and so within a few days, I sent in my resume.
- 6:37I called Mary a few times and a few other people with the Metro Youth Foundation
- 6:43eventually interviewed and was hired in my first full time job working for a nonprofit
- 6:51organization.
- 6:52And I was working in a program.
- 6:55I wasn't working in fundraising at the time.
- 6:57I was actually teaching young people in the inner city of Detroit who came from backgrounds
- 7:03of poverty how to find a job and how to keep a job.
- 7:09And that and and so, you know, I was a classroom instructor doing those kind of things
- 7:16and eventually became a program director teaching teaching young people in the
- 7:22Metropolitan Detroit Youth Foundation.
- 7:24The the marketing, the printing and publishing industry, which I was really trained trained to
- 7:32do.
- 7:34And and, really, that's that's where it all began.
- 7:37And from there, thirty eight years later, I'm still working with nonprofits, helping them to
- 7:44fundraise.
- 7:46I think it's just incredible and such a journey that you've been on.
- 7:51And I love that you, even as a young man, were were engaged with giving back to your community
- 8:00and and these organizations that had given you so much.
- 8:04And we talked a lot about it in our discovery call about your years in scouting, obviously,
- 8:08coming from a single parent home, having something like the Cub Scouts and the Boy
- 8:13Scouts, and these are are so pivotal.
- 8:16And I feel like those programs only survive if you have younger people that are investing
- 8:24their time into it.
- 8:25You know?
- 8:26And older generation can only go so far and really to connect with younger people.
- 8:31There's only so much that you can do now as a much older gentleman, right, to to help kids
- 8:37that are, you know, single digits.
- 8:39But love that you got into it early working with, you know, the the kids with disabilities
- 8:45and these young people with disabilities and and that your path has led you now to using all
- 8:53the skills that you gained over nearly forty years of working in the space and using it to
- 8:59help other nonprofits, bringing that plethora of experience that you have in all facets from,
- 9:05you know, working inside of the programs and being a volunteer yourself all the way up to,
- 9:10you know, really leading these foundations.
- 9:13And and I I think the hardest part is the fundraising aspects.
- 9:17Right?
- 9:17To to find the money, to do the good that you want to do, and maybe finding volunteers, maybe
- 9:23a second or a one a, one b for that depending on the organizations.
- 9:27But, I think it's amazing what you're doing now to offer all of that experience and know how
- 9:35into it no differently than you were doing in the classroom offering your know how in
- 9:39marketing and, communications to these younger people.
- 9:43How would you say that you are a teacher first and foremost?
- 9:50I I I would say that's that's a good a good definition, right, for for what I do.
- 9:58Because even working with donors, I'm I'm really learning.
- 10:04They're teaching me.
- 10:05I'm learning about them and what their interests are.
- 10:08But at the same time, I'm teaching them how their generosity can can make an impact.
- 10:16Everybody wants to make a difference with their life.
- 10:19You know, nobody just wants to work a nine to five, go home.
- 10:23And and, I mean, even if they're raising a family, they they would love to see them and
- 10:29their family get involved in the community and and help people.
- 10:33Right?
- 10:33You know?
- 10:34And and so I am.
- 10:37I'm very much very much a teacher, I think, and and I love sharing about what I do.
- 10:44It's been great therapy for me.
- 10:46You know?
- 10:47I my motives my motives really, Bubba, were selfish motives.
- 10:52I needed the boy scouts.
- 10:55I needed the four h clubs.
- 10:57I needed to work with people that were that were had had challenges in their life like I
- 11:07had challenges in my life being raised in a single parent home where we didn't have much
- 11:13money.
- 11:13Right?
- 11:14And and it taught me a lot about myself and and my experience in scouting.
- 11:22You know, I the the scoutmaster that I had that that founded troop fifteen forty four, which I
- 11:30which, you know, when I was 11 years old, I started as a boy scout.
- 11:34That's the youngest you can be as a boy scout.
- 11:36When I was 11 years old, I started.
- 11:39My scout master was Ron Webster, a young father in his twenties who whose wife had just had had
- 11:47a baby.
- 11:49And Ron was an extremely wonderful young man.
- 11:53I mean, he was he was he became my mentor.
- 11:57I mean, I I knew very quickly as a young as a as a kid that that I wanted to be like Ron
- 12:05Webster because there was no question he was a great father.
- 12:09He was a great husband, and he was a great scout leader.
- 12:16And and he sacrificed himself for his boy scouts, for his and and he he soon, you know,
- 12:27he soon developed cancer after just a few years of my being in troop fifteen forty four.
- 12:35Ron Webster developed throat cancer and mouth cancer and and would not give up his leadership
- 12:46role in scouting.
- 12:47He he he even on camp outs, we were very active.
- 12:53We would go camping, and Ron reached a point where he wasn't able to even talk anymore
- 13:00because he had had he had had his his parts of his mouth removed, his tongue, and he couldn't
- 13:08speak anymore.
- 13:09You know?
- 13:09But he was dying.
- 13:10He was wasting away, and and it was and it was tragic.
- 13:13And he had this young family of his of his own, but he but but he managed somehow to his faith
- 13:21in God, he managed somehow to to take care of his family, to spend time with his family, and
- 13:29to spend time with the the 30 to 40 boys that made up troop fifteen forty four.
- 13:38And and his in his will and we didn't know it until he had died.
- 13:45You know, he he he he was a scout the scoutmaster right up until the day he died that
- 13:51he he had asked his some of his top boy scouts to be pallbearers at his funeral, and I was one
- 14:01of them.
- 14:02And it was a it was a it was a great honor, a great honor.
- 14:05And and it and it and it marked me the rest of my life.
- 14:10And so a lot of what I do today, I do for Ron in his memory.
- 14:16Yes.
- 14:17An incredibly tragic but inspiring story, about the your scoutmaster, and no doubt, incredibly
- 14:24moving.
- 14:25And like you said, really set you on this path.
- 14:29And I'm sure as you're going, you know, through college and, you know, getting into the
- 14:34corporate world for one of the largest corporations, not just in your area, but in the
- 14:39world and especially at the time when the automotive industry was much larger and more
- 14:45powerful than today, that to work in that space where everything was about the bottom line just
- 14:51wasn't ever going to cut it for you.
- 14:53And I feel that you were born and destined to become exactly who you are now and that a man
- 15:03as incredible as Ron being that inspiration for you, you know, had that impact to want for you
- 15:13to want to do that for others, to to see the impact it had on you and to now give that
- 15:18experience to others without the the tragic ending to his story, but to help others.
- 15:26And I think that's just absolutely incredible.
- 15:29And I'm glad that you shared that story with me today because that was something that
- 15:33definitely impacted me in our first conversation when we spoke a few months ago.
- 15:40Yes.
- 15:41And and, you know, even even the wealthiest people, you know, major donors, just like the
- 15:53regular mom and pop or individual who who works a nine to five and gives generously.
- 16:03You know, their the thousand dollars that that that person, that average person might give in
- 16:12an entire year to one one or more of their favorite charities, is every bit as important
- 16:19as the Bill Gates or the Jeff Bezos who who who can who can write a check for millions and
- 16:27millions and millions of dollars for, you know, one nonprofit organization.
- 16:35And and to and, really, to them, you know, it it it it's not necessarily an act of
- 16:42generosity.
- 16:43You know?
- 16:44A a $10,000,000 check, $20,000,000 check to somebody like that is a is a very small
- 16:52percentage of their wealth.
- 16:54And and the people I enjoy most working working with as donors are those folks who make a
- 17:02decision.
- 17:03They wanna make an impact, and they wanna feel that impact.
- 17:06They wanna witness it.
- 17:08They'll roll they wanna roll up their sleeves and actually get their hands dirty if asked.
- 17:16Those those are the people who might give a thousand dollars a month.
- 17:23I mean, I I I have donors that make gifts of $1,000 a month who make $5,060,000 dollars a
- 17:31year.
- 17:32Right?
- 17:33Well, I mean, that's that's incredible to think that there are people out there that that give,
- 17:40you know, 10% or more of their annual income to a charity or charities, you know, that that
- 17:50mean a lot to them.
- 17:52And, but there are, many, many people like that, and it's a joy to work with them.
- 17:57And it's a joy to show people how they can make a difference and report back to them on the
- 18:04difference that their giving is making in the lives of other people or in the the the caring
- 18:11for stray animals, sick, you know, sick children, the environment, you name it.
- 18:22There's people people have a heart for doing important work, and and not everybody knows
- 18:30what they can do.
- 18:31And they can they can talk to a guy like me, and I can help steer him in the right direction
- 18:36to help him make a difference.
- 18:38Well, and something you touched on inside of that that I think gets overlooked a little bit
- 18:43and maybe by nonprofits especially because you're so in the work, and a lot of us are
- 18:49volunteering our time.
- 18:50And it's not that we don't appreciate the money, but sometimes we're not very good about
- 18:55showing donors what their money is doing.
- 18:58And not just the larger visions, but the small impact, the the big impacts that they're having
- 19:05maybe in small ways and what that money is going to.
- 19:08Do you feel like that's a big part of that, the communication and those skills that you have,
- 19:14the honing them at GMC truck and through your collegiate, you know, career of of
- 19:20communicating the good that's being done on a daily or weekly basis as it's coming in and
- 19:26really building up those relationships between the donors and the foundations.
- 19:33Absolutely.
- 19:35And and you know, the and I think it it kinda relates back to the statistic, and I might have
- 19:44shared this with you in our last conversation that, you know, volunteers, people who
- 19:51volunteer with a nonprofit are are 70 to 80% more likely to give to that nonprofit, support
- 20:02it financially, and they do, right, you know, than somebody who's not volunteering.
- 20:07And kind of to reverse that, to think to think about the people who wanna do good.
- 20:14Right?
- 20:15And and maybe they don't have the physical bill ability.
- 20:19You know?
- 20:19Maybe they're they're too young, too old, or they're too busy with life, you know, raising a
- 20:25family.
- 20:26And they can't make that difference, but they would love to to be able to to be able to give,
- 20:34some of their money and to know they're making as much of a difference as that person who's
- 20:40able to roll up their sleeves and and and get their hands dirty and volunteer to make a
- 20:46difference in their community.
- 20:48And so that's that that I think is really important when it comes to telling those
- 20:54stories.
- 20:55Right?
- 20:55That that and communicating with donors on a regular basis, whether it's and and everybody
- 21:02uses multiple communication streams nowadays.
- 21:05You know that.
- 21:06You're in the communications field.
- 21:07Right?
- 21:07You know?
- 21:08And and so, you know, people are listening to podcasts, people of all ages.
- 21:13You you know, people are on the Internet reading emails on their cell phones, texting,
- 21:19you know, and and, of course, watching, you know, watching their cable TV.
- 21:25And so using as many communication streams as you can and using it with consistency, right, I
- 21:36think is one of the best ways that that nonprofits, large and small, can reach donors
- 21:46and and prospective donors and helping helping them to at least help begin steering them in
- 21:53the right direction for, hey.
- 21:56That looks like something I would like to do.
- 21:58That looks like something I that would make a difference.
- 22:02And and so so, yeah, telling that telling that story.
- 22:07And once people start that relationship, continue that relationship by communicating
- 22:13with them in the very same way.
- 22:15You know, get picking up the telephone, calling them, making a personal call to them to thank
- 22:20them, or just just tell them tell them the difference that their last gift made.
- 22:28You know?
- 22:29Most nonprofits while most nonprofits don't find that information out, it's information
- 22:36that they can easily find out.
- 22:39You know?
- 22:39They just don't take the time to do it.
- 22:41And and but it it makes a huge difference not only to the nonprofit and the money they raise
- 22:47and the donors that they keep because donor retention is very important to that nonprofit's
- 22:53bottom line.
- 22:54Keeping the donors that they have and and adding more donors to them and growing the
- 23:00donate donors to be able to give more and more every year is very important to nonprofit
- 23:05growth and and sustainability.
- 23:09But but telling those stories is extremely important at at at at, you know, giving know,
- 23:19at at the donors being able to make a difference and and retaining them.
- 23:24And and so that's I can't say enough about the importance of communicating and telling the
- 23:31stories to donors.
- 23:33You don't even have to.
- 23:34There there there comes a point where with most donors, you really don't even have to ask for a
- 23:42donation when you're doing that.
- 23:44You tell the stories, let them know what their money is doing.
- 23:49And in the in the donor's mind, they see that they realize that as an investment.
- 23:57That money that money that they give is invested well because you're showing them what
- 24:03it was being used for and the impact it made, an impact that goes right to their heart.
- 24:09And that's that's the key.
- 24:12And so that's it.
- 24:16That that's that's those are the kind of things I love to help teach, I guess, as a teacher,
- 24:25but but really help to demonstrate by working with the nonprofits more closely and showing
- 24:32them how to do it and and helping them to recruit volunteers and hire hire people, that
- 24:40have skills, and talents that could do it too.
- 24:45No doubt.
- 24:45And I think a great example of that, an organization that does a lot of great things,
- 24:51that we've worked with in the past, the Make A Wish Foundation.
- 24:54Don't know that there's really any, you know, anyone out there that's doing it better at
- 24:59telling the stories and having that.
- 25:01But it doesn't take a massive production or a massive, you know, pool of money to put that
- 25:06together.
- 25:07We all have our cell phones, and we can be telling these stories.
- 25:10And, that's why I was very fortunate as I got into this, you know, media and communications
- 25:18industry that I I was very fortunate to fall in with operation combating veteran suicide very
- 25:24early to bring those skills to the foundation, to to be able to tell those stories.
- 25:31And we're gonna be doing a lot of that this year as we move through the rest of our year,
- 25:36and I'm learning so much just from communicating with you.
- 25:39And I hope that we have a chance to work with you in the future as well as we continue to
- 25:43grow and face challenges that we just don't have answers for.
- 25:47So, Kevin, absolutely appreciate your time.
- 25:50I know people can find you on LinkedIn, but, where can people find you?
- 25:54Where can they get a chance to work with you to help their foundations and nonprofit
- 25:59organizations?
- 26:00Well, let me let I I'll tell you, but I first wanna thank you for your work with operation
- 26:08combating veteran suicide.
- 26:10You know, I I think I mentioned to you to my brother Michael.
- 26:13My late brother Michael was a navy seal in Vietnam.
- 26:16And so I my I have a heart for veterans, and and it's great work you're doing.
- 26:20So thank you very thank you very much for that.
- 26:22Here's my email address.
- 26:24If you don't if you don't communicate with me via LinkedIn, my email address is help, h e l
- 26:33p, four, f o r, five zero one c threes.
- 26:42Right?
- 26:42The five zero one c three is the the the IRS nonprofit status.
- 26:48Right?
- 26:48That's a five zero one c three nonprofit.
- 26:50So it's help4501cthrees@gmail.com.
- 27:08There we go.
- 27:08That's it.
- 27:09That's it.
- 27:10You got it.
- 27:11We got it on there.
- 27:13Kevin, I I absolutely appreciate your time today.
- 27:16I appreciate everything that you're doing for other nonprofit organizations out there of so
- 27:22many.
- 27:22The the service that you do for all of us and people like myself and our founder Charlotte
- 27:28and Casey Roop will will have a massive impact.
- 27:32And no doubt your legacy will be that of helping millions of people around the world.
- 27:38And, you know, you probably won't get many trophies for it or much recognition at all, but
- 27:43I know that's never why you've done what you've done.
- 27:46But I I know that it is felt around the world, and and I truly appreciate your time today.
- 27:53Well, god bless you, Bubba.
- 27:55And, man, I tell you, I I I'm so impressed with your podcast and the things you do for
- 28:00veterans.
- 28:00So god bless you and your audience.
- 28:03Well, thank you, Kevin.
- 28:04I appreciate it.
- 28:05It's truly an honor for me to be able to serve those that have served not being a veteran
- 28:10myself.
- 28:11We all find a way and find our place in this life.
- 28:15So thank you so much for your time again, and thank you for being part of the scene.
- 28:19Hey.
- 28:21You betcha.
- 28:21Glad to be here.
- 28:22Thank you.