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Chaim Bloom is a Great Hire For The Cardinals. · Kenny Wallace Media

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  What's up everybody? Charlie Marlow here.
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  Quick video talking about the Cardinals hiring Heim Bloom as
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  an advisor to John Mosala. All.
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  Right I. Absolutely love this move.
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  Maybe I'm too negative sometimes.
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  The Cardinals haven't had a great year.
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  Let's be honest, I love the addition of Heim Bloom coming to
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  the Cardinals for several different reasons.
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  I was going to sit down and do a video talking about this, but I
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  was on Hot Take Central on Five Night of the Fan earlier today.
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  We had this discussion, Jimmy the Cat Hayes and I disagreed a
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  little bit. We always do.
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  We always argue, and we're not even doing that on purpose.
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  We just we just argue. But I'm thinking, why sit down
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  and basically say the same exact things I said about Heim Bloom
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  on the radio when I can just intro it and throw to the clip
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  where we talked about Heim Bloom?
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  I love the move. For these reasons.
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  You'll hear in the discussion right now on Hot Take Central,
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  on 590 The Fan and Joy. I think we have it wrong that
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  suddenly John's setting up a little table in his office for
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  Bloom. I disagree.
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  I don't think that's. It look what happened already.
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  Who did they trade with this winter?
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  Which two teams, the Red Sox and?
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  Rays. And the right What are the two
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  teams KAIM Heim Bloom worked for?
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  His name is Heim. Heim.
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  I told you that. It's Heim.
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  I said earlier. I.
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  Called him shame and I just. And then a text said it was
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  wrong and I said no, the text was right.
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  It's, yeah. 'Cause, he said ium.
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  Oh, I was messing with audio earlier.
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  He's a member. So what are you going to say?
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  I think it's fascinating for a couple different reasons.
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  I think the succession plan, which I think if you go back to
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  that that press conference at spring training, what was it
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  last year? So when John Mozalak has his
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  last three years, it seems like that's his last three years as
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  the president of baseball operations.
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  And then I think everybody assumes it's either Gersh or
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  Randy Flores. Now, if Heim Bloom is still here
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  and he's been the number one guy for both the Rays and the Red
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  Sox, I think it's an interesting, basically
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  discussion point if if he could potentially succeed John
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  Mozalak. OK, I'm not saying that can't
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  happen, but I'm just saying my experience has been decisions
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  aren't made by MO in his office, on the phone.
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  They're made by the group and my guess would be Bloom.
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  MO says, what do you think of this guy or do you know, you
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  know, this guy? Can you help us with this?
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  And then takes it to the group? I just don't think they're
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  setting a little table up in MO's office now.
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  Eventually when MO maybe if it's a bad season or MO decides to
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  move on and try something else. Maybe Bloom is a guy.
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  I get the feeling Bloom will have another job before that
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  time comes around. Could be because he's a
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  commodity and I think this is just sort of a holding pattern
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  for him. But could be wrong, I don't
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  know. Haven't talked to him or MO
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  about it. I assume we'll know more about
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  the role at the winter warm up when MO talks to people.
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  If you're Bloom though and you did really well with the Rays,
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  you went to the Red Sox big market team.
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  I think it's fair to say it was pretty weird because he's a
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  draft and development guy. It's kind of funny he wrote the
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  Rays way, you know we have the the George Kissel Cardinals way.
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  He's also a pitching guru so they brought him into Boston to
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  do all their drafting and developing and kind of redo
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  that. Well the first year is COVID.
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  You have a five round draft. They traded Mookie Betts, so
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  everybody hates him for that, but that's also coming from
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  ownership. So again, I just think that what
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  he does, basically working with the Rays, where you're on a
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  budget, to me, that's the Cardinals with about two to
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  three times the payroll. I think he fits here better than
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  the Boston Red Sox. I think he'll fit wherever
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  someone wants to give him a chunk of money, so.
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  But why wouldn't you? In two years, let's say in two
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  years, he could be the chief decision maker of the Cardinals.
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  That's a pretty good gig. That's a pretty good game.
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  He could. I just if you're asking me to
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  guess, I don't know. I don't.
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  I don't think any of us know. But if you asked me to guess, my
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  guess would be he will have another job by then.
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  Maybe he comes back, but I think he's in a holding pattern right
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  now. So he'll advise MO and then
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  other teams might present him with opportunity and he could
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  jump at that. What do you go ahead?
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  No, I just think I get that. How many jobs are potentially
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  better than the Cardinals, though?
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  So let's say. They're chief chokers.
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  Well, let's say he does really well this year.
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  The Cardinals love him. I just think it it sets up an
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  interesting decision two years from now, in my opinion, because
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  you have Gersh. He's been the number two, he's
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  been here forever, He's interviewed elsewhere, hasn't
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  got those gigs. Randy Flores, it seems like his
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  kind of usurped Gersh as potentially the next guy.
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  He's done great with the draft, but if you have Bloom in the
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  room and he's already done it twice with success.
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  And and. When I say Red Sox, the success,
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  it was up and down, but he's been the main guy.
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  I think it if Bloom is still here 2 years from now, if
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  Mozalak does want to move on, I just think that's very
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  interesting. Do you go with the in house guy
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  of a Gerscher of Flores who's been here longer or do you go
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  with a guy like Bloom who's done it at a very high level with the
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  race? I'm not writing anything off,
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  but Cardinals tend to like in house guys.
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  That's kind of their MO and I know they like Gersh.
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  Even though the quite what does Gersh do?
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  That's what you always hear from Cardinal fans, OK?
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  He's part of the team that puts deals together or shoots them
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  down. Flores they like a lot too.
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  But who knows? Who knows, maybe Bloom is is so
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  brilliant with what he's advising that they're like let's
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  hear more from this guy and he and he and he builds that up
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  into something. But to me right now I would
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  guess that is he's another set of eyes like MO said that they
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  could run things by that. Maybe someone outside the
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  pipeline sees it differently and gives them a perspective that
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  they can. Use I think that's huge, too,
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  though isn't it fair to say that the Cardinals had it rolling
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  back in the day? They had that competitive
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  advantage in terms of analytics and drafting.
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  Let's be real, they've lost that a bit.
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  So to bring someone in who was with an organization that was
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  also at the forefront of drafting, analytics development,
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  I think it's perfect, even if he's not the the chief Baseball
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  officer two years from now. I do think bringing in a very
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  bright mind from outside the organization that thinks like
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  the Cardinals, I think that could be big, OK?
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  It's a big help. But I bring up AJ Prezinski
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  again because I asked him about hey and when last year was
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  pretty bad. It's been a while since they
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  were deep. You know actually in the hunt to
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  win a World Series. Do you think that the brand has
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  faded? And he said no teams go through
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  that up and and he's a guy if if if he wanted to throw out some
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  venom, he'd do it. He doesn't care.
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  And then he talked about the Cardinal Way and how not his
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  thing and he let them know early on not.
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  But he did say, and I thought it was almost touching, he said,
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  you know, he had a bad experience with the Red Sox.
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  He came with a bad reputation that you know, as a as a
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  troublemaker and then change that literally in a in a short
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  part of a season. And he said it act being a
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  Cardinal actually made him love baseball again.
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  Like he actually loved playing ball in Saint Louis.
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  And he said it still has a great reputation as a place you want
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  to go, but it all comes down to the money.
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  If they're not going to pay you, they're not going to come.
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  But he doesn't think the brand has faded.
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  What? Do you think it has a little?
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  Bit. What do you think?
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  A. Little bit.
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  Did you see BD threes? I did what?
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  Do you? What do you think of that?
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  You said normal. Just about, they're probably
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  done payroll wise and he brought up the revenue challenges.
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  Yeah, I think, I think we all assume that.
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  OK. So.
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  That's why I think the Cardinals are probably done.
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  But I don't think it's I don't think it's 100%.
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  If the greatest deal ever came across the desk, they probably
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  are interested, but for the most part they're probably done OK.
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  That's all right if unless a deal presents itself, meaning
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  you could get CS for Burleson. Straight up, real quick.
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  Back to Bloom. I do think, I always say judge
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  people by their actions more so than their words.
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  The fact that this dude is known as the pitching guru and the two
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  deals they made this winter were with guys.
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  He's literally had his hands on pitchers for both organizations
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  that he worked with, Red Sox raised.
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  I think that's telling. I mean, the Red Sox deal was
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  basically, and I might maybe that maybe did have a hand in
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  it, I don't know. But how could he not?
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  But, I mean, they dumped Tyler O'Neill.
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  That's what they did all right with.
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  I thought the Rays trade was good.
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  I thought they picked up a legitimate bullpen piece.
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  I like that trade a lot. I think the the deal with the
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  Sox was just a dump of a guy that the Cardinals had come to
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  an impasse with. But you don't think that Nick
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  Robertson has some upside to be a reliever this year and help
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  you out? Yeah, he has some upside.
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  I I value player for player. I think Tyler O'Neill has more
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  value, just not with the Cardinals.
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  And I understand based on his injuries there weren't maybe a
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  ton of teams that wanted to roll the dice on them.
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  I think Tyler O'Neill is going to end up being a good player
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  somewhere. I think sometimes we we forget
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  about how valuable a good reliever can be when when the
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  Luke Voit trade happen and the next year COVID year, he's
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  hitting bombs. Look, Giovanni Gallegos has been
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  a very good reliever for the Cardinals for four or five
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  years. I understand last year wasn't
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  the greatest year, but he's essentially been the Cardinals
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  second or third best reliever for about 5 years.
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  That that's pretty valuable. There's no question.
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  Nick Robertson can be anything like that.
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  That's a pretty Dang good trade for the Cardinals.
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  If he can? Or what happens if Tyler O'Neil
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  suddenly crushes and hits 30 homers and knocks in, you know,
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  100 runs stays healthy? That that's pretty valuable too.
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  Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying bullpen pieces
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  are important, especially if there's questions about your
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  your starting rotation like the Cardinals have.
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  Yeah, you need. You better have a good bullpen.
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  But Tyler O'Neill, whatever he does this year, he wasn't
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  staying here past this season. So both these deals, I hope they
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  work out well for both teams. The Red Sox get Tyler O'Neill,
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  the Cardinals get control with Robertson, and the same with the
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  Rays. The Cardinals get a really good
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  reliever for one year and the Rays get their control with with
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  Palacios for six years. Palacios to me has upside.
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  Probably wouldn't have been here if there weren't, you know, a
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  ton of injuries. And he took his opportunity, he
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  ran with it. I don't think.
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  I don't think he's going to be a star.
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  Hopefully he has a nice, long career because he's a very nice
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  kid. I like what the Cardinals got in
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  return. I think they win that trade.
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  Tyler O'Neill? Who knows?
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  There's too many question marks with what what?
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  What the reliever that the Cardinals got and what Tyler
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  O'Neill's going to be if he can stay healthy.
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  Both teams can win a trade too, though.
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  I mean, the Rays are going to get Palacios for six years.
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  If he's a John Jay player for six years, that's that's very
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  valuable for them. For the Cardinals, they get
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  Kittredge. Hopefully he's good this year.
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  Maybe you sign him to a two year deal and he stays for a while.
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  That's it. That's all you can have.
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  Fair trades, man. Trade Don't have to always just.
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  That's right. You don't have to destroy the
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  other team. What's the most fair trade
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  recent? How about I almost had to let me
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  hear my thought. Ryan O'Reilly, Tate, Thompson.
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  That's a fair trade. Both franchises won.
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  The Blues win a Cup. The Sabers get a stud.
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  For the next 10 years. It's OK to have a trade where
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  both teams win. You're damn right that's fine.
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  No, there's nothing wrong with that.
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  Teams have different needs. Some teams wanna win right now.
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  Some teams wanna win three years from now.
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  Damn right. But who said that?
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  Who said that a team has to win? We don't know what's going to
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  happen. So we're talking about the
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  trade. Who you think got the better
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  part of it? That's all.
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  No one said one team has to win and the other has to lose.
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  But my point is my. Point is, I think it was.
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  I think, I think the trade to get Kittredge was a better trade
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  for the Cardinals than the other trade because I still think
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  Tyler has a big upside. That's all.
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  I have no idea how I said. I have no idea what's going to.
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  Work. My point though is you're
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  getting kit rich for one year. He's a proven commodity.
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  No, let's be real about this. Nobody knew anything about
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  Giovanni Gallegos in that trade, right?
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  Who are we talking about in that trade?
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  Remember the left-handed pitcher that didn't do anything?
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  The reliever cat. What was his name?
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  I can't remember his name. That was coming over there from
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  the Yankees. That was the guy who was talked
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  about. What was his name?
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  I forgot his name. Somebody in the text line, I
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  don't remember who. He had a weird name in the
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  trade. Cole.
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  And I'm working. I'm working.
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  Anyway, my point is Nick Robertson could be a Giovanni
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  Gallegos potentially for you there's a lot of value.
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  There is it chasing Shreve. Jason Shreve is Come on, Jason
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  Shreve. Come on.
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  Yeah, I didn't. I didn't like him at all, even
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  when they got him. And you like JoJo Romero?
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  The cardinal, the. Card you do.
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  I didn't the he wasn't like a kid.
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  I I didn't think he was that good.
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  It could have been. I didn't know JoJo Romero they
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  got, they got for a couple of Starbucks.
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  Right, Mundo. And he was.
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  He was very good, right? The Marlins and other
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  organization wanted to interview Bloom for their president
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  baseball operations, and he declined.
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  I think he wants a reset. And the Red Sox are still paying
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  them Danny Boy and Iowa. Hey dude.
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  Hey dude, let's see here. Jane Tech.
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  You want to go to the Marlins, though?
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  If you're him. All I'm saying is the Cardinals
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  are a lot like the Rays with more money.
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  It's a pretty good gig.