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Game One · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_06: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to game one of the 1992 Stanley Cup Championship Series between the Campbell Conference Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the Wales Conference Champion Pittsburgh Penguins.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_05: Hi, everybody.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the Pittsburgh Sports Memories Podcast.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_05: My name is Tim Hannon, and I am joined by my co-host, Steve Wirt.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_05: And in this episode, we're going to take a deep dive into one of the greatest single games in the history of Pittsburgh Sports.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_05: It's game one of the 1992 Stanley Cup finals between the Penguins and the Blackhawks.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_05: So this is a game full of momentum swings, huge plays.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_05: It's one to that really to this day is remembered by I think all of us who watched it.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_05: So I thought it would be a fun one to just sort of like really dig into the depth of.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_05: And and we'll start with some background of what brought us to this point.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_05: How did we get here to game one of the 1992 Stanley Cup final?
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_05: So let's go back first to 1991 because the Penguins win the Stanley Cup that year.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_05: We did a whole episode detailing that run and and what a magical moment it was, not only for the city, but also for this franchise who just had nothing but bad luck throughout its history.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_05: And unfortunately, that bad luck still continues after they win the cup because the coach of that team, a guy named Badger Bob Johnson, is diagnosed with brain cancer and he passes away a few months later.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_05: That was pretty shocking at the time, Steve, if you remember.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_05: the you know, we just won the Stanley Cup and the coach is dead before the next season even starts, really.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_03: I would say that's roughly one of the top five saddest moments in Pittsburgh sports.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, outside of Clementi's plane crash.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean that was devastating.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_03: People were devastated.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_03: I think the Penguins had a candlelight ceremony at the at one of the games before one of the games.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, luckily they they they had a guy on the bench that was a pretty good coach.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, and that that was fortunate.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_05: So the guy Steve's talking about uh that steps in as interim head coach, it's a gentleman named Scotty Bowman, and his resume is pretty impressive.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_05: He had won five Stanley Cups in the 70s as the coach of Montreal.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_05: I think he had been to eight Stanley Cup finals because he had taken St.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_05: Louis there before Montreal a few times.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_05: And and by this point in his life, Bowman kind of seems like he's done with coaching.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_05: He was a TV commentator for a while, and then he became the director of player personnel for the Pens.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_05: But when Johnson dies, Bowman takes over the coaching duties.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_05: So they have a coach, but it's still kind of a tumultuous 1991-92 season for the Pens.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_05: The team is sold during that year from the Debartolo family to Howard Baldwin.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Mario Lemieux suffers through some injuries and misses about 20% of the regular season.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_05: He still wins the scoring title anyway, because you know, Mario.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_05: Uh the Pens make a huge trade that year.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_05: They deal away Hall of Famers Paul Coffee and Mark Recy, two of the guys that were hugely instrumental in that first cup, for Rick Tocket, Shell Samuelson, and Ken Reggett from Philly.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_05: And I just remember hating that trade so much at the time.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_05: Um, because I I loved Coffey and Recce, but I also I hated Tocket because he was a flyer.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_05: And then same with Reggett, because he was the guy who had knocked us out of the playoffs a couple of years earlier.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know that Shell Samuelson gave us a terrible amount, but Tocket ends up being a key, key part of that 92 team.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_05: He does.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, it was a good trade in the long run.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_05: And I think I think Coffee was going to be a free agent.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, it was it was the right deal to make, I I guess, but man, and they got a pretty good return out of it, too, yeah.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_05: They did.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_05: It just it hurt at the time.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_05: Um the pet the pens do make it back to the playoffs, but not as division champions like the previous year.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_05: This time they finished with a record of 39, 32, and 9.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_05: So 39 and 32, Steve, not exactly like a dominant season, right?
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_05: Uh they beat the Capitals in the first round in a top seven-game series.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_05: What else is new?
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_05: They're actually down three to one in that series and come back and win.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_03: That's that's that's pretty on brand for the Capitals.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_05: Yep, it sure is.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, in the second round, they're taking on the Rangers, who had won the president's trophy that season.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_03: Boy, I hope they don't do anything dirty.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, I hope not either.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_05: Because and they don't really need to because the Rangers are kind of like the team of Destiny that year.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_05: You know, they they were the best team in the league.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_05: They had made this huge splash trade to get this guy named Mark Messier from Edmonton.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_03: Well, his leadership will carry them through, Tim.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_03: They won't need any of that, you know, dirty stuff like overhand chop with your stick on the best player's hand.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_05: They won't need that until they drop game one to the Penguins.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_03: So Mark Messi's leadership did not carry them through.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_05: Right, at least not for game one.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_05: So let's see how the Rangers respond in game two, Steve.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: It looked like it was on the limit.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_02: wrist.
• 5:56
  unknown: Certainly.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can see you can see the mute pull his arm and his hand outside of the glove.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_02: This is the wheel flip.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_02: That was two hands to make the hand.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_02: That was a tool that is close.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_02: The mule club is down, he's gonna do his left hand.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_03: You know, the referee, you can see I was watching the ref on that play because I've seen it so many times, and you can see his head's looking right at the play.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_03: And he it just his arm doesn't go up, doesn't do anything, just like ah, play on.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_03: Adam's that's hockey boys.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Adam Graves, two-handed chop, slashes Mario Lemieux, breaks his hand.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_05: It's the cheapest thing ever.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_05: The NHL does suspend Graves, but not immediately, because you know, NHL, they they wait till there's like a huge outcry, then they finally say, Oh, yeah, he's suspended.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_05: But that didn't even really matter because the Rangers losing Adam Graves meant nothing compared to the Penguins losing Mario Lemieux.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_05: If they really wanted to be fair, Steve, they would have said, okay, well, if Mario can't play, then neither can Messier.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_05: But that would have been way more you know appropriate punishment and the NHL.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think you can ever do that.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think you can do that.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_03: That's not the way these things work, too.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_05: It's not, but but that but but legitimate.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_03: Wouldn't you just go around punishing innocent people innocent Marc Messier, who was maybe not even on the ice?
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_03: What did he do?
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_03: Just because he's uh he plays on the same team as Adam Graves, he's guilty.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_05: But but what did the Rangers losing Adam Graves cost them compared to the Penguins losing?
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_03: Well, the you know, I mean I okay, I mean whatever.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_03: It's just the way it goes.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_03: Life's not fair, Tib.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, that was just complete nonsense.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_05: So the Rangers win game two and they win game three.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, and then the Penguins just channel all the rage and and kind of like sense of injustice they have, and they just never lose again.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_05: They win three in a row to eliminate New York, they win four in a row to eliminate Boston, and they're back in the Stanley Cup finals.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_05: And that win against New York is still to this day one that I savor immensely.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_05: I think if I had to pick like a top three of like most satisfying wins in Pittsburgh sports history, Steve, it would be that win over New York in '92, and then the playoff wins by the Steelers over the Bengals in 2005 and 2015.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_03: I always thought that that game against the Colts was satisfying.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_03: That was even more than some of the Super Bowls, because it was just such a like they did everything in their power to screw us, and then it was like, nope, we're gonna do it anyway.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that that that would be a good candidate, too.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_05: That's a good one, too.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_05: Um so that's the path for the Penguins.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_05: How about how about Chicago?
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_05: How did they get here?
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_05: Uh well, uh Steve just mentioned the uh playoff game against the Colts, and I think that's a really good comparison to where the Blackhawks were because in 2005 the Colts had by far the best team in the league, but they were massively upset in the postseason by the Steelers.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_05: And what did the Colts do with that?
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_05: They used it as motivation to make it to the Super Bowl the following year when they weren't necessarily as dominant during the regular season.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_05: And that's exactly the path that the Blackhawks are on here in '92, because in 1991, they're the best team in hockey, they're the Stanley Cup favorites, and just like the 2005 Colts, they lose their first playoff matchup against the Minnesota North Stars, a team that had 22 fewer wins than that.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_03: The Minnesota North Stars, I'm they're in Dallas, Tim.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_05: They're not North anymore, but back then they were the North Stars.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and that was a huge upset.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_05: So in 92, the Blackhawks aren't quite as dominant as they were in 91, but still pretty solid.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_05: And this time, just like the Colts, they're ready to redeem their postseason run, and they do that with really just suffocating defense.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_05: The three teams they play in the playoffs are all offensive powerhouses.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_05: They defeat St.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_05: Louis, who has 70 goal scorer, Brad Hall.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_05: They defeat Detroit, who had scored the most goals in the conference, and then they beat Edmonton, who had been to six out of the previous nine Stanley Cup finals.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_05: So Chicago takes down three really good teams, and they do all this without really losing any games.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_05: They drop games two and three in the first round, and that's it.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_05: That's the list.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_05: So they come into the Stanley Cup finals on an 11-game.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_03: So day one is a team, wow.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_03: How was it game?
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_03: Do you say 11-game winning streak?
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_05: 11-game winning streak.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_03: They have not really a month.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_03: What did the Penguins winning streak?
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_05: The Penguins come in on a seven-game winning streak.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_03: Well, they're just slacking, slacking off there, aren't they?
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_03: And these teams are like, like if you look at the rosters of these teams, like how many Hall of Famers are on there between these two teams?
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, here we'll get to that in a second.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_03: Like what?
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_03: What are we looking at?
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like 30?
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_03: 20?
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I'm probably short a couple there.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_03: I mean and I'm not even talking about the payouts.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_03: The Blackhawks were a really good team.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's it's there's a ton of hype around this matchup, especially like you said, given that um there's so many good players and given that both teams haven't lost in a long time.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_05: So let's let's do that.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_05: Let's take a closer look at the matchup and some of the key pieces.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_05: And and first let's talk about the coaches.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_05: You know, we we we already talked about Scottie Bowman, like we said, he has quite the resume coming into the series.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_05: The Blackhawks coach, Steve, do you remember who this gentleman was?
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_03: That would be one Mike Keenan.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_05: How would you describe Mike Keenan personality was?
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I mean, he's pretty affable and lovable.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_03: Guy do you want to, you know, shake his hand, bring him to dinner, you know.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_03: No, he is the Tom Coughl of hockey.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: He is uh definitely very strict and authoritarian in like, you know, just very brash and loud and says a lot of things.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_05: Not afraid to speak his mind.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_03: He could be the Donald Trump of hockey at that time, I guess.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_05: Well, there was a there was an incident that I think would have caused a lot more of a stir today, where one of the newspapers did a little cartoon and depicted him as Hitler because Mike Keenan had this this little like short mustache.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_05: It wasn't quite a Hitler mustache, but they depicted him as Hitler, and that caused a little bit of a stir because Keenan's wife um had family that was at Aschowitz, so it was pretty insensitive.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but like I said, I think that would have caused more of a stir today.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_05: But but that's just that's kind of was Mike Keenan's reputation.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_03: I like I mean it's a joke.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_03: They weren't serious, all right.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's I think that's the difference, is it was just a joke.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, maybe an insensitive joke, but still a joke.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it wasn't like when people say that nowadays they're they're serious.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_03: They mean it.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_05: So so yeah, Mike Keenan's a coach of the Blackhawks.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_05: He has a pretty good resume too.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_05: He twice led the Flyers to the Stanley Cup Finals, but was beaten both times by Wayne Gretzky and the Oilers.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_05: And Chicago makes him both the coach and the general manager, and he builds a winner again in Chicago.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, you know, and and like we said, Keenan's not the warm and fuzzy type, neither is Scotty Bowman.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, to be fair.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_05: And there's also some history between these two.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_05: Back in 1983, Bowman is coaching the Buffalo Sabres, and Keenan is coaching the farm team for the Sabres.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_05: And Bowman supposedly wouldn't promote Keenan, so he left.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_05: And there's reportedly bad blood between these two, although Keenan like firmly denies that.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_03: Who you gotta believe.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, you know how those things are.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_05: You gotta have fine angles to stories, and who knows what was true and what wasn't.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, in terms of the on the ice stuff, uh, this is this is one of those classic high-powered offense versus stifling defense kind of matchups.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_05: The penguins have the top four scores in the entire playoffs.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_05: They have Lemieux, who, despite missing a bunch of games with that broken hand, still leads everyone in scoring because, again, he's Mario.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_05: Then Kevin Stevens, Ron Francis, and this young kid named Yaramir Yager.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_05: Those are the top four scores in the playoff playoffs, and they all play for Pittsburgh.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_05: The Penguins also have Hall of Famers Larry Murphy and Brian Trotchier.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_05: So the Penguins are just stacked offensively.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_05: But, you know, so were St.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_05: Louis, Detroit, and Edmonton, and Chicago dispatched each of those teams.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_05: The Blackhawks have some pretty good players themselves.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_05: They have Hall of Famer Chris Kelios as their star defenseman, and he's paired with All-Star Defenseman Steve Smith, who had won three Stanley Cups with the Oilers and who had come over via a trade that season.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_05: They also have a Hall of Fame goaltender named Ed Belfour, who's been lights out in the playoffs.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_03: They have a Hall of Famer on the bench, too.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_05: And they have a Hall of Fame backup.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_05: What's his name, Steve?
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_03: Dominic Kosick.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_05: Dominic Kosick is their backup goaltender.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_05: So that's how stacked this team is.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_05: And it's really not just the defensemen and goaltenders.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_05: The Blackhawks, as a team, just play a very defensive-minded game.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_05: Rick Tockett says they forecheck and hit like nobody else in the league.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, but you know, Chicago's not just all defense.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, and if you don't believe me, just ask Mike Keenan.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: Well, if the truth are known, uh the Blackhawks have generated more offenses in the playoffs than the Penguins.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: And uh if you look at the offensive records, the Blackhawks have scored 4.5 goals per game.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: The Penguins have scored four.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_05: So suck on that.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_03: So somehow that half goal, like the puck went halfway across.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's such a Mike Keenan, you know.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_03: He he he he's sticking to his point five there.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_05: It's just a like a if you look at the stats, and you know, that's that's that's the kind of stuff.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's the most pro-football focus answer ever.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_03: Air yards, if you look at air yards, it's like, good God.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_03: They'll do it for a player you don't like.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_05: Now, now to be fair, the Blackhawks do have some pretty good scores.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_05: Chief Among Them is a 22-year-old kid named Jeremy Roanick.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_05: Roanick has a breakout 53 53 goal season that year, and he'll ultimately make it to the Hall of Fame.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_05: Uh you know, so so the Blackhawks can score goals too.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_05: The Penguins are also no slouch on defense.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_05: They have Alf Samuelson as their enforcer.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_05: They also have a Hall of Fame goaltender, just like the Blackhawks, a guy named Tom Barrasso.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_05: So, all in all, in the series, Steve, to your earlier point, we have 11 Hall of Famers playing in this game.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_05: And that list does not include guys like Yarmare Jagger, who isn't eligible yet because he's still playing, uh Rick Tockett, who was a four-time All-Star, um, Steve Larmer for the Blackhawks, who's one of the top scorers in the playoffs that year, uh, Dirk Graham, who was the great captain of the Blackhawks.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_05: Like, there's some really good players who aren't Hall of Famers that that at the time were elite, you know, best in the league kind of players.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_05: So just a like a plethora of talent.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_03: This is kind of like a dream matchup for the NHL.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_03: You think they would have made more hype about it.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't yeah, I don't know.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, the NHL doesn't like to, you know, sell itself.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_03: Well, they don't want to toot their own horde, they like to stay humble.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_03: Stay stay in Canada mainly.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're okay.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, let you know, garbage players take out the star players, you know, because who wants to watch the star players?
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_05: But anyway, we do we digress.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_05: Game one is in Pittsburgh.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_05: The whole city is understandably ramped up.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_05: Let's hear from one of the locals who may or may not have had a few drinks before they stuck a camera in front of them.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_05: This should be fun.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_05: I I honestly can't tell.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not sure.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_05: Let's see.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Badger Bob is with us tonight.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: He sits in heaven on a big Stanley Cup throne.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: He's wearing a Mario Lemieux hat, a big long white robe, sandal shoes, and smiling his butt off.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: Go pens.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_05: So there you go.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_05: Fans are fans are ready.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_03: We need like the music or something.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like that needs music or something with it.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like really like sappy music or something.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_03: And even said it like a pizza Mario Mario.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_05: Badger Bolves in heaven with his robe.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_03: Stanley Cup throne.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: What is this like the Game of Thrones?
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_05: Uh the Civic Arena is packed.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_05: The players are all introduced.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_05: And all the Chicago players get roundly booed, including Robbie Brown, which kind of surprised me watching this again, because we loved Robbie Brown, but hey, you play for the Blackhawks, so you're the enemy now, I guess.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_05: Then they trot out an 11-year-old girl from Gidsonia to sing the national anthem.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_03: She'll never go anywhere.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, they have a child singing the national anthem for such a huge game.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_05: I hope she's got some talent, huh, Steve?
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, her name is Christina Aguilera.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you're not gonna play it?
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I am gonna play it.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_05: You want to hear some of that?
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_05: Here.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_05: Here's 11-year-old Christina Aguilera singing the national anthem at game one.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_03: I think she's got talent.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_03: I think she's gonna go somewhere, Tim.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe win a Grammy.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_05: Future superstar right there.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Pittsburgh Zone.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_05: Also in attend in attendance at this game is a current superstar.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_05: It's actor and Chicago fan, Jim Belushi, who the cameras will cut to way too often during this.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: He's in Pittsburgh?
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's at this.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_05: He's sitting in the crowd with a cardboard sign that says Pass the Cup.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_05: Um I I never understood Kim Belushi, Steve.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know why.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you see, he's John's brother.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_03: So he's alright.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_05: I I get it.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_03: I never really liked according to Jim.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_03: I can't think of a movie that what was the movie with the dog?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: Canine Cop Cop.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: Was that Canine Cop?
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: That wasn't bad.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I have you watched it in the last 20 years?
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_05: Because maybe not.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe I just liked it when I was a kid.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I I watched it.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: I call that the Blackbeard's ghost effect.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_03: I loved that movie too when I was a kid.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, my my um when my kids were a little younger, they were really into like dog movies.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_05: Any movie that had a dog in it.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, there you go.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_05: And and so I was like, oh, look at that.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_03: That's me too.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, put a dog in a movie, I'll watch it.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_05: So I was like, oh, this would be a good one to watch.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_05: I watched it.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_05: It's so, so bad.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_05: It's so bad.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_05: And he's so bad in it.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_05: So like I said, I yeah, I never understood the Jim Belushi thing.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, more power too.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_03: Except for except for a dog's purpose, which I did watch, which don't don't watch.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_03: Don't let your kids watch that movie.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we stayed away from that one.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_05: We we we have their favorite when they were little was Marley and me.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_03: And that one now, that now come on now.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_03: That that's not as bad as a dog's purpose.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_03: At least the dog only dies once, but geez.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_05: That that one that one's kind of sad at you.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_03: That's too much.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_03: But at least you have a lot of good times with it.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_05: That that one I think is i if you're gonna pick a movie where the dog dies, spoilers, um, that's a good one.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_03: If you don't know that the dog dies of Marlin at me, then what are you?
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: Doing.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: I tell you what, uh, another good dog movie, uh The Art of Uh Driving in the Rain or whatever.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_05: I never saw that one.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's pretty good.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_05: But again, we digress.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_05: So sorry.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_05: So no dogs at this game that I can see, at least in re-watching it.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so so yeah, finally, you know, all the hype, all the pomp and circumstance, we're finally ready to play for Lord Stanley's Cup.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_05: Uh the game starts.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_05: The Penguins get the first good scoring chance.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_05: Steve, see if you remember this player.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_09: Up off the board, Cam Russell chasing it, but here's McPechron with great speed.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_09: Diving played by Marchbutt, then McPickren gets a chance, and Belfort able to cover the puck.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_03: Scotty McCran.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: Sean.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_03: Sean, did I say Scotty?
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Sean.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he was pretty good.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_03: He it wasn't like a he it was like another one of, like, you're saying, like, a that guy.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_03: He was playing well that year, too.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_03: Sean McCechran.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_05: He he was one of those guys that was kind of like you thought in the future he might be uh I think this was as good as he ever was going to get.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_03: Like he you make that mistake with I I've learned that over the years.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_03: Like sometimes like you project people, like, oh, they're playing this good and they improved that much, they're gonna improve that much more, and you don't realize that they've reached the top of their talent level.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he he never really becomes a star.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_05: I I did look it up and I didn't remember this.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_05: He does have a 40 goal season with Ottawa, like way, way later in his career.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_03: But that's but he wasn't a bad player, he's not like a bad player, he's a good player, he's just not a Hall of Famer.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_05: I yeah, or even like an all-star.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's kind of you just thought he he had so much potential, you thought he was going to be better than he ended up being.
• 23:46
  unknown: Yeah.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_05: So uh about a minute later, Mike Hudson is called for interference, and the Penguins get the first power play, but Chicago clamps down.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_05: The Penguins don't even really get set until the very end of that power play, and they come away with nothing.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_05: The Blackhawks then really start pressing their forechick.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_05: So they get some good pressure on Barasso, and they draw a holding penalty on Gordy Roberts.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_03: No, Gordy Roberts, I remember him.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_05: And on the ensuing Chicago power play, here's what happens.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_09: Now the Blackhawks on the power play, Tubio scores.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_09: Seven seconds after the penalty to Roberts, Chicago takes the lead.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_03: What the heck's everybody booing about?
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_03: Was the penalty like that close or something?
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_05: So so yeah, that's a great question.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_05: The booing is because uh on the face-off, the the face-off was in the penguin zone and Ron.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then he just kind of skates into the the between the dot area and just shoots an uncontested shot.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_05: Because Ron Francis got tripped after the face-off.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_05: Ron Francis got tripped and knocked over, and that's why Kelly is just kind of, like you said, skated and uncontested shot.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like, because like I saw that it's like, yeah, you can't really let a guy do that.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's it's hard to see on the replay, but if if you look at the beginning of it, you see Francis is on the ground.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_03: He's not blocking a shot there.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_05: So so that's what happened.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_05: That's why everybody was booing.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_03: Like he takes a shot from like inside the dot, and that's that's really hard to stop as a goalie.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_05: And that's that's exactly what happened.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_05: That's why everybody was booing, because they thought Fran that should have been a penalty for the takedown of.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you can see the guy's stick, yeah.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_03: Well, not great, but you can see he has his arms like he has uh once again, low def TV.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_03: Doesn't do us much favors here.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but no call, and it's one to nothing Chicago.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_05: Uh meanwhile, the Penguins really can't generate any offense, and the Blackhawks are just all over Mario.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_05: Just all over Mario, although not without a cost.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_08: It doesn't matter who's on the ice against Mario Lemieux, they want him picked up when they're headed into the Chicago ends.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_08: So Mike Keenan on this one, Steve Larmor has picked up the assignment.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_08: So Mike Keenan has obviously told his guys, look, if I don't have the matchup out there that I want, somebody pick him up and be ready to pay the price.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_08: I'll say.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_03: And just for context, Mario is trying to skate, and Steve Larmer literally had his stick across Mario's midsection, and Mario was towing Steve Marmer for a free ride.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_03: So I guess it was you know free Mario rides day at the arena.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_03: He should have probably paid five bucks for that.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_03: And then after that, somebody, I didn't catch the number, somebody absolutely did.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_05: It was number five, Steve.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_05: Who else would have been?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, who else?
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_03: The the one the only Alfie uh he that's how he, you know what, that was the fee for the Mario ride.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_05: Right, yeah.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_05: Like Alf Samuel just destroys Steve Larmer along the boards.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_05: And and Steve Larmer was a tough son of a gun.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_03: And that's just dirty, though.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_03: I that that that's holding.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't know why you don't call that, but again, it's the NHL and they don't that you know and then and then you have that happen, and they're like, oh look, the penguins are dirty play, you know.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_05: Like uh Yeah.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and Steve Larmor, uh, from from 1982 to 1993, plays in 884 consecutive games for for the Blackhawks.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_05: That's great.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_05: But all Fletcher gonna try and uh regardless, the Blackhawks continue to play solid defense.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_05: They kill off a second Penguins power play, and then Battle for the puck along the board.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_09: Kelly also pitched him deep.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_09: Samuelson of the way from Hudson and look at the check that spits just through, and It's 2-0 Chicago.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_09: They take the man off the puck and score for the two Tippley.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_03: There's a shot of Jim Bellucci cheering.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_03: I couldn't really see they they said they took the man off the puck.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_03: You really couldn't see it that well.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's just it's it's what they did, they forecacked, right?
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like they just they were all and it went to the middle of the ice, and once again it was like inside that I'm trying to think from our perspective, like inside the right dot, I guess.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_03: And it was a shot almost from the same shot that um the earlier goal was, very similar.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, in the penguins it in the previous clip, it said 0 for 4 in the penalty or power play.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: If you're gonna not score in a power play, the Blackhawks are gonna keep taking penalties, why not?
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: There's no you know consequence to it, you know.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, good point.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_03: But Jim Pelushi looks really uh visibly annoyed.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_03: Like like somebody isn't gonna heckle you.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: You're cheering for the Blackhawks, you idiot.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_05: I mean I think they'd be wearing a suit and tie also to this game.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_03: Classy.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_03: Classy.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so first goal was scored by Hall of Famer Chris Kellyus, second goal was scored by Hall of Famer Michelle Goulet.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: Well, at least they're not giving them up to the chumps.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_05: So it's 2-0 Chicago, but hey, that hey, whatever.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_05: No worries.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_05: The Pens were kind of notorious for slow starts back then.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_05: They'll get back into this game, right, Steve?
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, sure.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_09: The penguins on home ice in a hole here in the first period.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_09: Press Kelly outs with a John off the stick.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_09: Loops in front of the Blackhawks lead three-nothing.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_08: Man, does this aggressive machine have it wound up and reffed up here?
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_03: The arena is getting really quiet there at three to nothing.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_03: And you know what?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_03: They evened it out.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_03: They scored from the left side.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_03: Left side thought that's not they didn't want to make it all one-sided.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_03: Keep Brasso guessing a little bit.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_05: Um and that Dirk Graham goal was 26 seconds, 26 seconds after the goulet goal.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, wow.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_05: So, yeah, it now it's three to nothing.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_05: We're still in the first period.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_05: The penguins are getting slaughtered.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_05: They have no answer for Chicago.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, this is this is not a good start.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, finally, Mario sparks the team.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_05: He charges into the Chicago zone and he draws a holding call against the Blackhawk, against Black Hawks defenseman, Igor Kraftchuk.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_03: So that guy must have like been like sitting on his back or something.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, like you said, it was ride Mario around the arena.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_05: Finally, somebody calls that.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_03: Well, they they had been calling okay.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: If you're 0 for 4 in the first period, they had been calling penalties.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_05: They had.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_05: They had.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_03: If you call four penalties, you can't say, oh, they weren't calling any penalties.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_03: They weren't.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_03: Give credit to the Blackhawks for killing them off and having good defense.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, so now they are they gonna kill off another one?
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_05: Well, Scotty Bowman does something interesting here, Steve.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_05: He calls timeout.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you only get one.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_05: And you only get one.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_05: And remember, we're like halfway through the first period.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that sounds like a sounds like a smart time to use it.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, he knows, I think he knows this ensuing power play is critical if the Penguins want to have any chance of climbing back into the game.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_03: You know, he's been in a few Stanley Cup finals, so he would know.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_05: He would.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, will it work?
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_05: Does it work?
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_05: Let's find out.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_09: And round behind the net by Phil Bork.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_09: Trying to put it out in front.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_09: Here's Bork in a wrap around.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_09: He's gorgeous! Woohoo!
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_03: That was nice.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_03: That was close in.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know where the Chicago defense went on that one.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_03: They kind of got him running around and behind their own net.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_03: He circled out to a round of what?
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_03: The left that was the left side front of the net, and he just put it right in there.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_05: So Yeah, yeah, that's that was the old 2-9, Phil Bork.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_03: And and he's he's gonna take that goal and party down by the river all summer.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_05: Phil Bork talks about that goal in his book.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_05: He says that he and Bob Erie were talking on the bench right before that, uh, about how Belfour, they noticed Belfour, whenever he had to whenever he played a puck from behind the net, he kind of was awkward getting back into position.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_05: And he and Bob Erie were talking about just being patient when that happens.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_05: Like, don't just try to do like a quick wraparound.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_05: And that's exactly what Bork did.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_05: He kind of came out, like you said, slowly glided a little bit and then shot the puck.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_05: And uh and that pays off and he scores.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_03: It was close in, too, and there was no defense around them, which is they they kind of had him like the penguins kind of forecheck there in their own penguin kind of way.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_05: A lot of open ice here in the first period, right?
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so the penguins get a goal at the first intermission.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_05: It's three to one Chicago, but that's better than three to nothing.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, there's no shot of Jim Belushi on that goal.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_05: We only got we only get Jim Belushi.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_05: We only get happy Jim Belushi.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_05: Because, you know, all his movies were comedy, so you can't have like sad Jim Belushi or angry Jim Belushi.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so yeah, three to one.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_05: Here's it during the intermission, here's Doc Emmerich talking to Rick Talkett about what he thinks went wrong in that first period.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_10: You have to feel a little better about the last four or five minutes of that period in terms of the chances you were getting, Rick.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they're saying this for check, and you know, I think we're kind of being intimidated by this great forechuck.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: They got a good forechuck, but you know, we're just as big as them.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_02: We can't uh be intimidated by them.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I've got to love Rick Talkett.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_03: He's I can see why this guy's a good coach.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_03: That's exactly what they probably needed to hear.
• 33:27
  unknown: Yeah.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, remember uh remember in the Super Bowl when the Steelers were playing the Cowboys and Lambert threw Cliff Harris down to the ground.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of the same.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_05: Because he and he felt like they were they were intimidating.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_05: You know, he said later, like he felt like they were intimidating us, and we weren't we weren't going to be intimidated, and that's kind of the stance Rick Tockett's taking here.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_05: Nice.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_05: So we head to the second period, but first, Steve, a word from this game sponsor.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_09: Welcome back to Pittsburgh.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_09: The opening of the second period is brought to you by Molson, a part of the NHL tradition since 1957.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_09: Molson is Canadian beer.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_05: Molson is Canadian beer.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's a fact.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_03: I've had I've had Molson before.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what I mean.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, maybe they're trying to make inroads into Pittsburgh, Tim.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_03: I've lived in Pittsburgh and I've had a Molson.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_05: I prefer Labat.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_03: I think I've had maybe it was Labat.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_03: I had one of those Canadian beers.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_03: They're okay.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_03: I still like Miller better.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_03: I can't really drink anymore.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: I miss that.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_03: Getting old sucks, Tim.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_03: I can maybe have one and I'm done.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_03: I'm such an old person.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_03: That's it.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_03: I'm out, people.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_03: I'm good.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_05: I'm in a similar boat.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so after a high flying first period, the game kind of settles down here a lot in the second period.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_05: Not a ton of chances for either team during the first half of the second period.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_05: Uh meanwhile, Chicago's strategy to contain Mario uh is pretty obvious.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_08: Boy, it doesn't take long for a crowd to gather when Lemieux crosses the blue line.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_08: Three Blackhawks all around him.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_08: Look at this.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, they're down a man as well, but they're still willing to try to gang tackle Mario Lemieux.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_03: Did they just use the word gang tackle?
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_04: They did.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think that's he doesn't have the puck.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_03: Didn't they call somebody for interference earlier in the game?
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_03: How is I I guess you just can't call every penalty, but this is crazy.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's it's like you said, Steve, it's not, it's not egregious because they they are calling penalties in this game.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_05: But but like you said, it's like Chicago, I think, is playing the numbers game.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_05: It's like, okay, we'll take like I think you you called it.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_05: Like it's like we'll take some penalties, but we're gonna get away with more than we get called for, and it'll be worth it because our fortex is so good we can kill off the penalties.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_05: It's working.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's working.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_03: So right now you would say the game is being played the way Chicago wants the game to be played.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_05: 100%.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_03: Because they always say great, you know, great styles make great fights.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you got a guy that's more defensive, a guy more offensive.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_03: You have Navy, a running team versus you know, a high-flying Hawaii offense that just throws the ball a hundred times a game, you know?
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_03: That's gonna be a great matchup.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_03: Who's gonna win this?
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_03: You got a great defensive team like the Steelers against a high-flying Dallas Cowboys.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_03: You know, that those are the games that people you know want to see.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_03: And, you know, and that's what's happening right now.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_03: Right now, the defensive team is winning.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's it's favoring Chicago.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_05: So can the Pens maybe fight through this and cut the deficit some more?
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, they got that goal at the end of the first period.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_05: So let's see what happens next.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_09: Drops it to Stanton, moves in, all the way in, and a shot blocked by Belfort.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_09: Now back come the Chicago team.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_09: Larmer with a pass to Brent Center.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_09: He shoots, he scores! Very, very quiet civic arena as Chicago has taken a four-to-one lead over the Penguins.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_03: Now there's a lot more open play there, but that's a terrible goal by Boris.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_03: So the guy shoots the puck, and he wasn't that close.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_03: I think he was outside the left dot and he just wow, or is it the right dot?
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_03: That's left dot.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_03: And it just goes right between his legs.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_03: And he's down and like, well, he's kind of around the dot.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's in a critical area where you don't want people shooting, but he's not screened or anything, but yeah, he should have made that save.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_03: If you're a good goalie, you gotta make a save every once in a while.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_05: And Barrasso, I mean, like you said, on those other goals, it it was guy's kind of right in front of the net, but he's not playing a good I'm so let's take stock, right?
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_05: Barrasso is not playing a good game.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_05: That goal comes at 1136 of the second period, so we're more than halfway through the game here.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_05: The Blackhawks again have a three-goal lead.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_05: They can't rely on their goaltender.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_05: The Penguins at this point only have five shots on net, and they really aren't generating any offense.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_05: So it it kind of feels like game over here because like you like you said, Steve, the the game is tilted the exact way Chicago wants it.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_05: Their strength is defense and it's just going their way.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_05: Um Ron Francis later says, you know, he said we didn't come out well, but we uh we never feel like we're out of it.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_05: Kevin Stevens says the same thing.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_05: He says, we're never out of anything.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_05: So the penguins aren't giving up, even if, you know, I think those of us watching this game and probably the people in the arena were a little bit like, okay, maybe we just get him in game two.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_05: The penguins need a break and they get one.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_05: When Chicago takes a too many men on the ice penalty.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_03: Now that's that's a bad penalty.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_03: Then again, Keenan might have been trying to get a matchup with Mario.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_03: So Mario might have forced that, or you know.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_05: Possibly.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_05: But I mean that's that's the equivalent of like a pre-snap penalty in football.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_03: And and it's an unforced error per se.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_05: Right, right.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_05: And and like Kraftuk, you know, holding Mario or interference penalties, like at least that's you know, in the heat of the action, maybe that even prevents a goal because he took a penalty.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, just a just not having the right number of guys on the ice, that's avoidable.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but even still, the Blackhawks are are just about to kill off that penalty when this happens.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_09: One matter chance for Pittsburgh.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_09: Stanton off the right face off circle into the corner.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_09: McKecker, the Stanton he scores!
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_03: That was a nice shot.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_05: It it was actually not Paul Stanton.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_05: It it's tipped by Rick Tockett, a helmetless Rick Tockett, who deflects it past Belfour.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: Because it goes, you can see the water ball.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, look at that.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: He's right there.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it pops the water bottle.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_03: You see the water bottle go up on that.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_03: That's the only reason that went in, because Belfour was right there.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_03: That's not Belfort.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_03: See, as the other as much as the other one was uh Barrasso's fault, that one is not Belfour's fault.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_03: There's as a goalie, there's nothing you can do about that.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_05: Belfour got low, which would have stopped.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_03: He was right there.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_03: He's right there to stop the shot.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but because it gets deflected, it goes goes over his shoulder.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, it's not a pretty goal, but when you're down by three, I think you'll take whatever you can get.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe some signs of life.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe some signs of life.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_05: Pens have some momentum.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, they're still trying they're still really having trouble though finding open space against the Blackhawks forehead.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_05: Like we said, they they barely had any shots on goal, even with the multiple power plays they had.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_05: Fortunately, there's a man who has a solution for that.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_10: You have it.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_10: Come down to shoot it.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_13: Belfort goes in.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_13: Barry Olivier uses Belfort.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_13: Like a ping pond ball.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_13: He suddenly carries off of it.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_13: And the penguin make it four to three.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_13: Oh no.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_13: Eddie.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_13: Spike Eddie.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_03: That was a little bit lucky, a little bit on purpose.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I think he Belfour played out because he got out because he figured Mario wasn't gonna rap or anything, but Mario's behind the red line, isn't he?
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_03: Behind the red line.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's literally behind the red line.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_03: And he he did the old, and that's an old trick, like you bounce it off the goalie and in.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_03: And that's exactly what he did.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like that that's just Mario being Mario, like you said, Mario being great.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_03: The great players can do that.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that it's ridiculous because who even tries a shot like that?
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_03: And I feel bad for Belfort because he got made look like a fool, but I I don't know what to tell you.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_03: That was that was impressive.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_05: And the crazy thing is, Steve, it ends up being like the third best goal of this game.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_05: So so now all of a sudden, momentum's totally swung.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_05: Uh they start playing the hay song at the arena.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_03: Ah, that'll never go out of style.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, I think that was before what's his name had all the charges against him.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but yeah, now it's all of a sudden it's four to three.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_05: The Penguins have scored two goals, every crowd's back into the game, and now Chicago calls their timeout.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_03: Oh wow, in the second period.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_03: Wow, we're getting uh liberal with the timeouts today.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and and just like when Bowman called it, full credit to Keenan because that does seem to steady the ship for the Blackhawks.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_05: And and also, honestly, full credit to Chris Kellos.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_05: That's a guy I never liked as a player.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_05: Really did not like Chris Kellyos, but watching this game again, uh, you can see why he was so revered.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_05: He's just everywhere.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_05: Like he's stopping the penguins they when they bring the puck into the Chicago zone.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_05: He's moving the puck into the Pittsburgh zone.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so the Blackhawks after this really kind of just get back into their game.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_05: And and so even though the Penguins were able to make it a one-score game, Chicago goes right back into the four tech.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_03: And they're not probably gonna be bothered by a one-score game, I would imagine.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_05: No, especially again, they had they had they were battle tested by this point.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_05: You know, you go through three rounds of the playoffs against you know teams like Detroit and Edmonton, you're not gonna be too worried.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_05: Uh and so it really stays that that way well into the third period.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_05: Uh once again, the penguins are not finding a lot of opportunities uh in the third period, and when they are, Eddie Belfour is doing this.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_09: The penguins up with it, McKeckrin puts it out in front.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, and a chance there, and it's turned aside, came right out in front again.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_03: That was a nice save, like right in front by one Sean McEchar.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_03: And that was right in that dangerous area again.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's wild.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like for a defensive team, like both like the Blackhawks are giving up some chances here.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean they're they're defensive, but it also helps to have again the Hall of Fame goaltender to make sure that when there are chances, because you're not going to stop everything.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_05: When there are chances, you know, you can stop it.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_05: So the Blackhawks are back on their game.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_05: The Penguins are not able to score, but one thing that does change here into the third period is they're not giving up any opportunities either.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_09: Lot shot, long shot, black by Barrasso.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_09: Chilios with the rebound.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_09: sets up Chronic, club saved by Barrasso.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_03: I think Barrasso, like, is one of that's what makes him a Hall of Famer, is he doesn't he has like that short-term memory that all the great athletes do, like, or that confidence, you know.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_03: He isn't gonna lose his confidence because he gave up a couple goals.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he wasn't gonna get pulled after that fourth goal.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_05: He was gonna stay in there and do a really good job stopping Chicago.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_05: And and on that play, he robs Jeremy Roanick, who who is mostly invisible in this game, and and later gets criticized by Keenan because you know that's what he did is threw his players under the bus.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: In the in the media, too.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_03: It was weird.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_03: It's a weird way of coaching.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_03: Works for works for him, I guess.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_05: I I guess.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, again, he had a lot of success.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_05: So that's really the way most of the third period goes.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_05: Uh like each team has a chance or two, but it's mostly one of those periods where most of the action is really between the blue lines.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_05: There's not a lot of whistles.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's it's just kind of skate up and down, and it's a four to three game.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_05: Um, Chicago's doing a good job protecting their one-goal lead, and now the penguins are down to their final five minutes.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_05: Can they get another goal?
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_05: And one guy who's been quiet in this game, much like Ronick, is Yarmir Jager.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_05: And actually, quiet's generous because Jagger had actually been pretty bad.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, there's multiple instances where he he keeps playing like hero ball, or I guess hero puck, since this is hockey.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_03: Tries to do it all by himself.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_05: Right, right.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_05: He keeps trying he makes like these like one-on-two, like high-risk plays, and he does it several times on the power play, which enables Chicago to clear the puck, like instead of getting set, he just tries to charge his way in, and then Chicago just takes the puck away and clears it.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_05: That that goolet goal, Steve, remember you said how um Chicago like pinched and like took the puck away.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_05: That was that was Yager.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_05: Who they got the puck off of.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's hard to see the numbers quite.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like you said, low def TV.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_05: That was Yager.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_05: So so he's not playing a good game.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_05: Bill Clement, who's announcing this game, even wonders if Jagger's nervous.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_05: Uh he notes that Jager's parents had flown over for this game.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, wow.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_03: From the Czech, from Czech Republic.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he just wonders if like Yager maybe just has like the jitters because he just seems to be that off of his game.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_05: Well, uh, here with five minutes left in the game, Jagger again tries to make a hero play, but this time it actually works.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_10: And he has had a big night, but they can't clear it this time.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_10: Yager has the puck.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_10: Trying to work around Brent Center.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_10: Dennis comes in around another back, comes another slant, turns him with a backhander.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_13: Hey, Delta's not Yarmer Yager ties it for the Penguins.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_13: Oh, Buckham Dano.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_13: A great individual play by 68, and the Penguins have tied it at four.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_03: And you've seen that goal a hundred times.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_03: It's amazing.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_03: The the Chicago defenseman comes in on him.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_03: He like literally puts it between his legs and then takes out another Chicago defender somehow.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_03: And there's still two more and Belfour in front of the net, and he slips a backhand.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think that went high.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_03: I think that was on the ice, wasn't it?
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_05: It was, it was between his legs.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it went it only Yawger, like like the Mario, how that was an only Mario goal.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_03: That's an only Yager goal.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's one on three against this really good Chicago defense, and he just kind of skates around everyone and then backhands it through Belfort.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's Mario Lemieux calls it the greatest goal he's ever seen.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_03: Mario, yeah, he's not wrong.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_05: That's it's high high praise coming from Mario, obviously.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, the the kind of a miracle goal ties the game at four after the Blackhawks had a three to nothing lead and then a four to one lead.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_05: And the final minutes tick down.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_05: Uh the Blackhawks do get a golden opportunity.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_05: Larry Murphy gets called for hooking with just a little over two minutes left.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_05: So the the Blackhawks are going to have basically the last couple of minutes of the game on a power play, but the Penguins kill that off.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_05: So now we're just down to like the final few seconds.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_05: It really looks like we're headed to overtime.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_05: And like how appropriate, right?
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_05: This incredible matchup, these powerhouse teams who haven't lost in forever.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_05: Chicago had a big lead, Pittsburgh comes back, all these great players like Jager and Chelios and Togget and Belfour just creating this epic game that gets to be decided in sudden death overtime.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds like it would make a great movie.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_05: It does.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_05: What a story for game, right?
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_05: So we're headed to overtime.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_05: Or wait a second, are we?
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_03: I think Mario's gonna call game.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, there's one guy on the ice who's like, uh, you know, I don't uh want to play the overtime tonight.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_09: It's cleared out by Pittsburgh.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_09: That kills off the penalty.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_09: Lemieux moves taken down.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_09: There'll be a penalty against Chicago.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_09: A hooking penalty to the other side with 17 and 210 seconds left in regulation time.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_03: That was a must-take penalty.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_03: I do that's not a cheapie.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's not a cheap.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_03: You had to do that.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_03: You cannot let Mario go one on one with a Belfource good.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_03: No, you you take that penalty ten times out of ten.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_03: I do not blame that with 17 seconds left in the game.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_03: Heck yeah, he did the exact right thing.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's the only thing you can do.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it gives the Penguins an advantage, but at least you live to fight another day.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, yeah, that was Steve Smith, who, like we said, had won three Stanley Cups with Edmonton.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_05: He's a savvy veteran.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_05: He doesn't he can't give up the breakaway goal to lose the game with 17 seconds.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_03: Mary was in the middle of the ice at the blue line with the puck, about to go by him.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_03: He just grabs him with a stick and pulls him down.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_03: And it it it it was there's nothing he he did the right thing.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_03: It was absolutely the right move.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_03: And it wasn't a cheap shot either, though.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_05: He just he just it was like pass interference.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_05: It's like it's like when the when the cornerback's so burnt and you just you just obviously take a pass interference call because it's better than letting him catch a touchdown.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_05: Like you said, live to fight another day.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_05: So so you know, yeah, obvious penalty, right, Steve?
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_05: Well, actually, that play ends up being very controversial.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_05: But it's like Seattle Seahawks controversial, like where it's actually not controversial, but you know, people say I mean they could have called a penalty shot, maybe.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_05: That's the only other No, no, no.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_05: That's not the controversy.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_05: Let's let's see what let's see what Black Hawks coach Mike Keenan's very rational take on that play is.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_01: I can't respect Mariel for diving.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he's the best player in the game, and he's uh embarrassing other players on the ice as well as embarrassing himself, and I think embarrassing the game.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh three times he took dives, two of them resolved it in calls.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_01: I just think he's a better player.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he has the ability to test people in a one-on-one situation with his ability to take dives.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: NHL management uh set a mandate before the playoffs began about diving and said it too.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_01: Most people could, in fact, be given delay a game, and Mario's got the Mario rule, and that is uh he's a protective player.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_01: And therefore they don't call the dives on him, which were obvious.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_03: I I didn't think that was a I mean that was not a that was pretty solid contact, and the guy stick with it between his legs.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_03: So I I don't know what Mike Keenan's talking about there, or if he saw some other dives in the game that he thought were questionable.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_05: No, he's talking about that one.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_05: And and and to be just to summarize, Mike Keenan thinks Mario should have gotten a penalty on that play, not Steve Smith.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because it's because it's diving.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_03: But the best uh then the best the best way to deal with diving and flopping and basketball, I always said, is to just not call anything.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_03: And just don't call anything.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_03: Because what's Mario gonna do?
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_03: If you don't call anything there, he's laying on the ice.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like, what's he gonna do?
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_03: How's he gonna score from there?
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, I guess it's Mary, you might score from there.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, you just taking yourself out of the play.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I never understood about like why they like soccer is good for that, and I've seen way worse in soccer.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_03: Like and I never understand soccer, you know, like just let a guy take himself out of the play.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_05: Like, you don't have to call diving or just stop being so like ticky-tac with the rules, but that was not well and and and to believe that you have to you have to believe that Mario Lemieux is charging down the ice with 17 seconds left with a chance to win the game, and he intentionally takes himself down instead of being one-on-one with the goaltender.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, that that's very logical, Mike Keenan.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_05: Very logical argument you have there.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's ridiculous.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_05: Mike Keenan's an idiot.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I'm sorry.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_05: Like he didn't.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you could have tried to argue for like maybe say he's arguing for the next call, so he gets calls in the next games, but that doesn't even make sense.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_05: That's pretty extreme, too.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, you heard that quote.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's extreme.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_05: And like I said, he he believes Mario should have gotten a penalty calling on Mario, not Steve Smith.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_05: And that that's insane.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_05: He he also takes a shot at referee Annie Van Helm and he says, quote, somebody didn't prepare himself to call a big game.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_03: Hallerman was never a friend of the Penguins, if I remember correctly.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_05: He wasn't, but you know, again, and like the the the absurdity to say, like, oh the Mario the Mu roll when when you saw like Steve Larmer draped over his back, yeah, the whole time he's on the ice, and they don't call that.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, again, it's it's insanity.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_05: It doesn't even deserve me playing the clip, but I I couldn't help it.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_05: It's just it's so ridiculous.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_03: It it is ridiculous.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_05: So so yeah, so cool.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_05: We're gonna go we're gonna start overtime with the penguins on a power play.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's good news for Pittsburgh.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_05: Well, but hang on, hang on.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_05: There's still 17 seconds left, and the penguins will get a face-off in the Chicago zone.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_03: But you know Well, they've had so much success on the power play tonight.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, Chicago's playing tight defense, they have the Hall of Fame goaltender.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_05: That's really not a lot of time.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe if you win the face-off, you'll get a shot off.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, let's see what the Penguins can do with their little tiny bit of time left in regulation.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_11: They'll drop the puck.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_11: It's free.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_11: Outright side Murphy shooting.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_11: Say made rebound on the Muew! He should scars.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_13: Mario Lamue in the Penguins lead.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_13: Five to four, and you'd have to be here to believe it.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_05: You really would.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, the arena, the arena explodes.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_05: The penguins win.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just to describe, it was a shot from the point on the what am I saying, the right side.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_03: And when Belfour makes the save, a pad save, like ideally you would like to kick that to the corner, but that's easier said than done.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_03: Grodur was really good at that.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_03: And so when the rebound comes out, it comes out to that dot area.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_03: And unfortunately for um Mr.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_03: Belfour, there's uh the greatest scorer in NHL history waiting there with basically Belfort down and out and a wide open net to shoot at.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't think Mario is gonna miss that one.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's and Mario even said uh, you know, if if that puck gets blocked or something, he was kind of cheating.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_05: You know, um and if it would have gone the other way.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_05: It would have gone the other way if if that if that uh but there's like 17 seconds.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_03: I I I think with that little time left, you can maybe I don't know.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_03: I guess if there was like five seconds left, maybe that's Mario knew what he was doing, Steve.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_05: I mean he can say all he wants, but he knew what he was doing.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, the the the the crowd at the Civic Arena goes nuts.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_05: Phil Bork says when Mario scored that goal, that's the loudest that any building has ever been in the history of Pittsburgh sports.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_05: Over at Three River Stadium, Genesis is doing a concert, and Phil Collins announces that Mario has just scored with 12 seconds left, and three River Stadium explodes.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_05: Nice.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's like an all-time Pittsburgh sports moment.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_05: Here's Mike Lang talking about it years later.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_07: The Civic Arena opened up and the whole world heard the sound of that goal being scored.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_07: It was that type of moment.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_03: Nice.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, pretty, pretty cool.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_03: The late Mike Lang.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_05: So missed.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_05: So missed.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I I said this on the show once before.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_05: You know, sometimes when these moments in sports happen, you can remember exactly where you were and exactly how you felt.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_05: And I remember feeling disappointed because it was like, oh, he Mario's just better than everybody.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I mean, cool, like, glad we're gonna win the cup, but I was kind of under the impression that these were two good teams with all these stars, and Chicago has Hall of Fame defensemen and a Hall of Fame goalie, and game one was back and forth, and this series is probably gonna go the full seven, but but like no, that was all a ruse because Mario was just better than everyone else.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_05: And that's really what what game one turned into, and that's what the rest of the series turned into.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, and honestly, I I at that time when 90, I for whatever reason I did not get to watch this game live.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_03: I have seen it in replays, obviously, as I've gotten older.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_03: I remember watching the game clinching game, which was game four.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_03: I remember that more than anything.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_03: And I remember like there was a sequence where Mario and Yager just passed the puck back and forth, and there was like nothing Chicago could do.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_03: Because like by that game, Chicago gave up playing defense, and they're like, well, we'll just shoot it out with them and hope we score enough goals to win.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_03: And they even went to Hausick, and Hausick made a lot of great saves because that game could have been like nine to nothing and kept them in the game, but the penguins still won by a couple goals, so yeah, it it the game one really the way that the Blackhawks lost game.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_03: I think it did demoralized that team, and Keenan didn't have any answers after that.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_05: It it got them off their game, and then in game two, also at the Civic Arena, that they're tied one to one with the Penguins, and Belfour stops Mario on a breakaway.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_03: Oh wow.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_03: That's very rare, yeah.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_05: You never saw Mario get stopped on a breakaway, so okay.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_05: You know, they they dropped game one after being in the lead.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_05: They're tied in game two.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_03: All you all you want to do is win one of the first two games, really.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_05: And you stop Mario on a breakaway at their arena.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_05: That that feels kind of like maybe that's the turning point, right?
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_05: Kind of like kind of like remember when uh um Fleury stopped Ovechkin on a breakaway in that game seven?
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_05: You know, like maybe that's the turning point that the Blackhawks need.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_05: Well, guess what happens next, Steve?
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_05: Mario scores two goals a few minutes later, and the Penguins win three to one.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_05: So, like I said, he's just better than everyone.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_05: It's like you stopped him on a breakaway, it was one to one, then he makes a two-to-one, then he makes a three to one, and that's game two.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_05: And now you're going back to Chicago down 0-2, and and they drop game three, and then like you said, game four turns into a shootout.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_12: And at the end of that game, five seconds I can off, loose around the phone corner, two seconds, the pick one, the standard still, shoots it block.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_12: The penguins have won the Stanley Cup.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_12: Oh Lord standing lord, stingily give me the baby.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I remember that.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_03: Now, was it the first Stanley Cup where everybody went to the airport?
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_03: And no, it was was it or was it the first time?
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_03: That was the year before this time.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_03: They wised up and told people that I remember I think like they were saying, Don't come to the airport, and they're like, please don't, don't come to the airport.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_03: Which would you believe?
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_03: I found this out.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_03: The old airport building.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_03: Do you remember not you know they're building a new, like the pre-1992 airport building?
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_03: Do you remember that building at all, Tim?
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, vaguely.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_03: Vaguely, me too.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_03: It still exists.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_05: Does it?
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_03: In the most Pittsburgh turn of event.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_03: So if you ever take a chartered flight, you can go wander down the halls of the old and relive the 1991 Stanley Cup uh homecoming, I guess, if you really yeah, we we the episode we did on the 91 team, we talked about that that whole airport thing.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_05: And and Steve, you made such a good point at the time.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_05: You noted how it's amazing that in 1991 at you know one in the morning, that many people were like, hey, we're going to the airport.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_05: You know, it wasn't there was no like people posting that on uh Instagram or or everybody just had the same idea or yeah.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, or were phone calling each other.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know, but it was just amazing that that many people like a grassroots kind of thing could happen like that with no internet.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_05: Um so yeah, the Penguins win the cup.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_05: So let's let's talk a little bit about the aftermath.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_05: Mario Lemieux that season scores 24 more points than Marc Messier, despite playing in 15 fewer games.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_05: So naturally, who do they give the heart trophy to for the NHO's most valuable player?
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_03: Messier has the leadership, Tim.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_03: You can't underestimate leadership.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_03: Leadership, Tim.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_03: Leadership, and he doesn't dive.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he doesn't dive.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so yeah, Messier, Messier is the MVP.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_05: I have the voting here, Steve.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_05: Messier gets 341 votes for MVP.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_05: Can you guess how many votes Lemieux gets?
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_03: 20.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know how many.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_05: Uh 29.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_03: Wow, I was close.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he comes in fifth.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_05: Kirk McLean, the goaltender for the Canucks, gets more MVP votes than Mario.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's once again, I'm with Mario.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_03: Any award you vote on.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, you know, Messier gets 341 votes, and Marriott scores him by a lot of points on his way to winning the Stan and eliminating Messier's team.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but you know, 29 votes, so whatever.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_05: Whatever.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_05: I'd rather have the cop than the Con Smythe trophy if I'm Lemieux, and I'm sure he I know he feels the same.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_05: He's like you said, has said that.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_05: Um Chris Kellius gets revenge nearly two decades later when he wins the Stan as a member of the 2008 Red Wings against the Penguins.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_03: Is he the guy that got mad that Crosby didn't shake his hand, or was that somebody else?
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was somebody else.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_05: I don't remember, but Chris Kelly is played until he was like 54.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Mike Keenan leaves Chicago to go coach the New York Rangers and leads them to their 94.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_05: First and as at the time of this recording, only championship since 1940.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, that that was kind of.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, they chanted that at the end of that series.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_03: They they said that it's never been chanted as loud, even on the island, that it was that day that they that game, whatever, the game seven, that the Rangers got eliminated.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_03: Everyone's chanting 1940.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_03: 1994 doesn't quite have the same ring.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_03: 1994.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, it's been a while now.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_05: It's been you know 30 years since the Rangers won a cup of things.
• 1:04:51
  SPEAKER_07: 1994.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_05: And they've won one cup since 1940, but you know, they have that at least.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_05: That was kind of gross.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_05: Watching them win a cup and then Mike Keenan being the one to lead it, lead them to it, but oh well.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_05: Uh the Penguins look like they're gonna three Pete the next year, but they lose to the New York freaking Islanders.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_05: And then Bowman leaves after that 93 season.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, that that was a whole mess where uh he was offered a long-term contract, but then he didn't accept that right away, so the penguins were sending it, and Howard Baldwin was like, Well, you know, we want somebody that wants to be here.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_05: It was one of those kinds, it was like the Jamie Dixon thing, you know, where it's like uh maybe maybe Scotty Bowman just wanted to leave anyway.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but it it just it was unfortunate because Oh, that's that's bad, yeah.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_03: Because Scottie Bowman really was hurting after he went to Detroit and built a winner.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_03: Right, right, exactly.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_03: So with all the Russian players from the great Russian teams in like the 80s and 90s.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, and that and that's and for the penguins, really.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_03: He could have done that in Pittsburgh.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_03: Imagine he'd done that in Pittsburgh.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_03: I uh geez.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_03: Added all those guys to like the Augers and the Mews and yeah.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and that's really kind of the end of that era for the Penguins.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Mario struggles with health issues after that.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_05: Howard Baldwin runs the team financially into the ground.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's the other thing, Steve.
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_05: Like it the Penguins weren't exactly well managed either under the new ownership.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_05: So maybe Bowman builds that same team in Pittsburgh, or maybe he's not able to just because of the the the ownership.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_05: Um But yeah, it's kind of sad that that's you know, you thought the Penguins were capable of more than more than what they they did in that era, but but at the end of the day, I mean two championships.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, two in a row isn't bad.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's still not been done.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think any no, nobody's won three in a row.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, since before that.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_05: Um but yeah, the the two championships, you know, the second of which featured this kind of like this all-time dramatic, memorable game.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_05: I you can't complain too much, right?
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_03: No, you would think the NHL would really be able to catapult off this into uh getting you know becoming a household name.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_05: Well, it was it was good while it lasted, at least in Pittsburgh, and again, really good memory for of this game.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_05: Any other final thoughts, Steve?
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, that's that was a fun one to remember.
• 1:07:30
  SPEAKER_03: That's a great game in Pittsburgh sports history.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_03: I I would rank it you know somewhere among the top ones, you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Not a Maz's home run, the Super Bowls, immaculate reception.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's that's definitely up there.
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  SPEAKER_05: It is, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: The only thing I think that holds it back is it wasn't a deciding game.
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  SPEAKER_03: If that would have happened to win the cup, if that's how they would have won the cup, oh my goodness.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that would have been up there with Flurry making that save at the last second to win them the cup.
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