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The DiCecco Daily: Eagles Things I'm Thinking About, Offense Edition · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? Everybody?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome into another episode of did check O Daily. Andrew
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  Speaker 2: did check O Eagles Pete, reporter for insidethbirds dot Com,
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  Speaker 2: here with you and I want to get into some
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  Speaker 2: storylines that I'll be keeping an eye on as it
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  Speaker 2: pertains to the offense and the defense heading into training camp.
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  Speaker 1: We'll break this up into two podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: Today is going to be about the offense. And there's
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of questions that I have about the offense.
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  Speaker 2: And understand that when I say storylines, I'm not suggesting
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  Speaker 2: that their concerns, but they are topics that are worth
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  Speaker 2: monitoring throughout the summer and into the fall. And first
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  Speaker 2: and foremost taking center stage is just how does Jalen
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: Hurts take to this new offense and how different will
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  Speaker 2: it ultimately look? Fair questions, But when you look at
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, I understand that he's had to adapt to
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: a number of different offensive coordinators, a number of different
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  Speaker 2: quarterback coaches, and he's largely responded. But this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be drastically different. Because it's one thing to immerse
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: yourself in a system that's minor league tweaked relative to
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  Speaker 2: previous years, but the Eagles have always adopted similar principles, with.
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni leading away.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be something that is expected to
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  Speaker 2: look drastically different from anything the Eagles have run in
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  Speaker 2: the past, and.
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  Speaker 1: The key is to always evolve and grow as an offense.
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  Speaker 2: And you can look at the offense from last season
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  Speaker 2: and say, well, the offensive line was injured and that's
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  Speaker 2: why they couldn't run the ball, and that took him
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  Speaker 2: out of their comfort zone, their bread and butter, whatever
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  Speaker 2: you want to call it.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's that same, because to me, you.
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  Speaker 2: Can't continue to run it back every year and not
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  Speaker 2: expect other teams to catch up to what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: And this system that Sean Mannion is bringing in with
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  Speaker 2: the influences of Matt Lafleur and Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan,
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel, it's going to involve a lot of under
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  Speaker 2: center play action, middle of the field utilization.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to see tight splits.
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  Speaker 2: Pre snap motion, all of those things that the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: have flirted with in the past, but they've never made
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  Speaker 2: it a hallmark of their offense. And while Jalen Hurts
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  Speaker 2: has done all of these things at different points of
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  Speaker 2: his career. It's not about doing it for a game
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  Speaker 2: or you know, highlighting a series. Luck he did it here. No,
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  Speaker 2: it's about being able to lean into those principles and
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  Speaker 2: make it a mainstay, a focal point of your offense.
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  Speaker 2: Because this very much feels like this is the system
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  Speaker 2: that the Eagles are committed to. They believe in very much.
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  Speaker 2: He started at the top of the organization, so I
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  Speaker 2: don't necessarily think that this will be something like when
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  Speaker 2: Kellen Moore got to Philadelphia with the ideas that there
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  Speaker 2: would be more motion and different elements of his offenses
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  Speaker 2: of the past. He saw glimpses of that. For the
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  Speaker 2: first four weeks. It didn't look esthetically pleasing, and it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't effective. There were a lot of turnovers. The passing
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  Speaker 2: game was largely disjointed, and they had to scrap it
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  Speaker 2: and scale it back, I should say. And then you
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  Speaker 2: saw after the bye week they leaned into the running game.
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  Speaker 2: It helps when sat Van Barkley's was having this season
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  Speaker 2: that he was having. We're getting off to that start
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  Speaker 2: and you have the offensive line playing at a historic, historic.
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  Speaker 1: Rate, but they don't make that notable change less.
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  Speaker 2: There's a reason for it, and the reason for it
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  Speaker 2: is you see the collection of talent that they have.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want the.
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  Speaker 2: Season to go down the drain, and you try to
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  Speaker 2: find a way to.
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  Speaker 1: Augment the offense and make it effective.
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  Speaker 2: And they found the successful remedy being running the football.
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  Speaker 2: It was something that they had to do out of
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  Speaker 2: necessity and they ended up having a historic season from
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line at Saquon Barkley.
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  Speaker 1: But this is going to be a little bit different
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  Speaker 1: because Jalen's learning the.
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  Speaker 2: System from the ground up. He's meaning he's learning it
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  Speaker 2: from the spring. He's not being asked to try it
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  Speaker 2: out in the middle of the season leading up to
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  Speaker 2: the Chargers game like he did last season, because I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that's fair, nor do I think it's practical,
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  Speaker 2: right when you've been running a certain system for months
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  Speaker 2: to all of a sudden say hey, let's try this.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought that they did some positive things despite
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  Speaker 2: the turnovers in that game. It just wasn't fair or
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  Speaker 2: realistic to expect the Eagles to suddenly adopt a different
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  Speaker 2: philosophy at that stage of the game. But Jalen has
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  Speaker 2: been more willing to change than ever before.
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  Speaker 1: That was in the ESPN story. He's embracing the newness here.
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  Speaker 2: And if you listen to what he had to say
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  Speaker 2: or what Sean Mannion had to say as they're continuing
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  Speaker 2: to install this system, they both sound very optimistic. They
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  Speaker 2: sound eager to attack this process and they both will.
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  Speaker 1: Jalen seems refreshed and excited.
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  Speaker 2: And when you can articulate the wise behind the instructions
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  Speaker 2: and those directives, you're going to.
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  Speaker 1: Elicit by it.
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  Speaker 2: And Jalen is a quarterback that you have to be
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  Speaker 2: able to illustrate your.
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  Speaker 1: Vision and explain it for there to be a.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to say a buy in,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe just have somebody full fledged committed to what
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  Speaker 2: you're asking them to do.
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  Speaker 1: And look, it's going to be a change. The ball's
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  Speaker 1: got to come out.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a timing based offense, a true
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  Speaker 2: West Coast offense. Jalen hasn't always been someone that has
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  Speaker 2: got the ball out on time. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: moments where he's held onto the ball and those throws
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  Speaker 2: that he does make have largely been outside the numbers
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  Speaker 2: where you're throwing it up to Devonte Smith and A. J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown in years.
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  Speaker 2: Past, and yes, he's fit the ball in some tight windows.
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  Speaker 2: I thought the throw that he had, I think it
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  Speaker 2: was to Devonte Smith against the Chargers was one of
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  Speaker 2: the best throws. Was the best throw he made off
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  Speaker 2: season last year. And you're gonna have to do more
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  Speaker 2: of that in this offense. There has to be more
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  Speaker 2: anticipatory throws and timing based working in the middle of.
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  Speaker 1: The field, keeping the offense on schedule.
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  Speaker 2: The explosives will be there, but I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: they're going to that they're going to focus solely on.
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  Speaker 1: That, or that won't be a necessarily primary objective.
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  Speaker 2: You'll be able to take advantage of those in moments,
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  Speaker 2: but you want to continue to lead into the running
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  Speaker 2: game and make the passing game more efficient because one
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  Speaker 2: thing that we can both we can all agree on
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  Speaker 2: is that the passing game over the past.
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  Speaker 1: Two seasons has not been good enough.
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  Speaker 2: And that's really for two seasons, including the year league
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  Speaker 2: has won the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: It kind of gets lost in everything. But with that
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  Speaker 1: collection of talent, it just simply.
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  Speaker 2: Has to be better and they have to run the
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  Speaker 2: football more efficiently. For the passing game to really take
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  Speaker 2: full effect, and I do believe that that's going to
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  Speaker 2: be the emphasis of this offense. Get the offensive line rolling,
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  Speaker 2: get Saquon Barkley going, and they be able to reap.
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  Speaker 1: The benefits off of that.
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  Speaker 2: But the big question or storyline that I have will
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  Speaker 2: be monitoring how Jalen Hurts progresses as he continues to
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  Speaker 2: onboard and immerse himself with yet another new offense, but
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  Speaker 2: one that is wholly different from anything.
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  Speaker 1: Legals have done in the past.
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  Speaker 2: Another storyline for me will be the health of the
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  Speaker 2: offensive line, and it's impossible to to determine that at
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  Speaker 2: this time because right now it seems like everyone's healthy,
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  Speaker 2: everyone's pushing forward and pulling in the right direction, and
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  Speaker 2: they are going to be the key in the.
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  Speaker 1: Offense being able.
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  Speaker 2: To take it to the next level advance from where
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  Speaker 2: they were last season. With how to health the offensive line,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that it much matters how skilled of
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  Speaker 2: a play caller Sean Mannion is or pal jaywhen Hurts
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  Speaker 2: takes this offense, because it all starts up front. The
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  Speaker 2: Eagles had been a team that really relies on the
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  Speaker 2: impact of the trenches and their ability. They have the
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  Speaker 2: NFL's most talented offensive line. They had a lot of
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  Speaker 2: injuries last season. The attrition caught up to that lane.
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  Speaker 2: Johnson missed a lot of time. Am Jurgens, as we've
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  Speaker 2: talked about, had the off season back surgery and that
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  Speaker 2: February after the Super Bowl and clearly wasn't himself.
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  Speaker 1: He was battling through and landed Diggerson battle excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: battling through it.
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  Speaker 2: And what you saw was in an emic run offense,
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  Speaker 2: and that really made the force the Eagles to be
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  Speaker 2: behind the sticks, becoming one dimensional, and then defenses were
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  Speaker 2: able to key on a sore spot of the offense,
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  Speaker 2: which was the passing game. That's me sort of summarizing
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  Speaker 2: it in the most simplistic form, but.
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  Speaker 1: That's basically my view of it.
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  Speaker 2: And the offensive line right now I think will stand
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  Speaker 2: to benefit immensely from the new system that Sean Mannion's
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  Speaker 2: bringing in in terms of the wide zone and things
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  Speaker 2: like that, where angling is a point of emphasis that
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  Speaker 2: should you know when your alignment are moving laterally, when
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  Speaker 2: they're moving horizontally as opposed to moving vertically. It should
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  Speaker 2: eat some of the pressure, some of the wear and
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  Speaker 2: tear on these players allow them to accentuate their athletic qualities.
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  Speaker 2: And they all have that, and they all, to me
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  Speaker 2: feel like they're suited for this offense. And listen to
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  Speaker 2: someone like Lane Johnson. For so many years, for his
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  Speaker 2: whole career, it's been one on one ano Imano. He's
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  Speaker 2: had to handle a heavy workload the NFL's top pass
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  Speaker 2: rusher or whoever, the opposition's top pass rusher. And this
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  Speaker 2: time he mentioned that, you know, if he loses one
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  Speaker 2: on one, lab guard help. And I think when you
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  Speaker 2: have lineman moving laterally and getting into space and climbing
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  Speaker 2: to the second level versus attacking forward, where there's just
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  Speaker 2: that rogue grading, grinding nature of it that tends to
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  Speaker 2: really lead to some you know, wear and tear on
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  Speaker 2: the body, I think this shift should be able to
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  Speaker 2: help them. But I think that for this offense to
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  Speaker 2: really be able to be fully imagined, the running game
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  Speaker 2: will be front and center of everything. With Saquon Barkley,
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  Speaker 2: and I've said this many times, but Sekwon Barkley was
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  Speaker 2: the same player that he was in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: I saw the burst, I saw everything.
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  Speaker 2: He was healthy, he looked fresh, and he looked fresh
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  Speaker 2: at that training camp as well, so they're not getting
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  Speaker 2: ashed a diminishing player or anything like that. Taking all
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  Speaker 2: that into account, you need that offensive line to be
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  Speaker 2: able to block it up. And I think to an
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  Speaker 2: even larger picture, they don't necessarily have clear cut answers
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  Speaker 2: as to who would replace any of the starters should
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: an injury arise. We've talked a lot on this podcast,
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  Speaker 2: I've written a lot about it on Inside the Birds
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  Speaker 2: dot com about the inexperience along the offensive line. When
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  Speaker 2: you look at the reserves, aside from Fred Johnson, there's
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  Speaker 2: Miles Hitson hasn't played an NFL snap, Cameron Williams did
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  Speaker 2: play a NFL snaps in the season finale and I
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: thought did okay, but it was just one game. Drew
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  Speaker 2: Kendall eighty nine career snaps. He's going to be your
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  Speaker 2: top interior offensive linement on game day. Then you have
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: other players like Willie Lampkin, you have Jake Majors, you
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  Speaker 2: have Michael Morris, who the Eagles drafted. So player development
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: is going to be crucial here. Cross training becomes all
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  Speaker 2: the more important. They also signed Michael Jordan, the guard
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  Speaker 2: out of Ohio State, who's a veteran. He started a
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  Speaker 2: number of games, so that gives you a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a veteran presence to pair with Fred Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: But Michael Jordan's going to have to make the team and.
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  Speaker 2: Because of that, it's it's hugely important that this offensive
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  Speaker 2: line stays healthy because that's going to be the key
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  Speaker 2: to their to their success.
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  Speaker 1: The third and final offensive storyline on.
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  Speaker 2: My list would be how will the Eagles go about
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: replacing the production lost when.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Aj Brown was traded to the New England Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: Davonte Smith stands to benefit the most clearly as the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles top receiving option.
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  Speaker 1: The passing game now runs through him and Dallas Goddard.
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  Speaker 2: But with Davonte Smith, you've already seen what he can
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  Speaker 2: do when he's in the top spot. He's been a
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  Speaker 2: number one receiver before. As a rookie, he had nine
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen receiving yards. He's a three level threat.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that this new offense with Sean Mannion and
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: passing game coordinator Josh Grizzard, they're going to craft a
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  Speaker 2: passing game that should create more should evoke more creativity.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna see some more advanced route concepts that should
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  Speaker 2: help with spacing, which will be interegal for someone like
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  Speaker 2: Devonte Smith, getting him on the move a little bit more,
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  Speaker 2: and things like that, because last year's offense when it
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  Speaker 2: came to the passing game, was very compressed a lot
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  Speaker 2: of hitch routes and things of that nature.
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  Speaker 1: But this year I could see them finding creative.
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  Speaker 2: Ways to get DeVante Smith on the move, lining him
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  Speaker 2: up in different spots. So I don't have any questions
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  Speaker 2: about the Eagles top receiver Davonte Smith. I do have questions.
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  Speaker 1: As to how quickly someone like makay.
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  Speaker 2: Lemon absorbs the offense and can become a high level
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: slot receiver. Early I have been pollish on the pick
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  Speaker 2: because I really like the player coming out to USC.
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  Speaker 1: But when you're talking about a collective group.
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  Speaker 2: Here that's going to have to account for the loss
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  Speaker 2: of production from someone like aj Brown, you need that
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  Speaker 2: player to be able to step in and help you
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  Speaker 2: almost immediately, and I believe that he fits in with
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  Speaker 2: this scheme and being able to be that interior receiver
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  Speaker 2: who was a razor sharp route runner, can attack the
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  Speaker 2: catch point. He's good after the catch, So you like
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  Speaker 2: the ability to move the chains and keep the offense
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  Speaker 2: on schedule, which in a West Coast offense is crucial.
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  Speaker 1: But he's a rookie, so anything.
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  Speaker 2: You're anything you're assuming he's going to do as a
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  Speaker 2: rookie is largely a projection. The other projection would be
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  Speaker 2: the Don Tavian Wicks, and I view him as the
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  Speaker 2: X factor in this passing game because he's never had
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  Speaker 2: more than thirty nine perceptions in the season. The Eagles
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  Speaker 2: are committing to him, they traded for him, and he's
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  Speaker 2: making a decent amount this season, but he's been a
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: part time player with the Green Bay Packers, and so
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  Speaker 2: now he's stepping into a situation in Philadelphia where he
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: has to undertake a far more prominent role and be
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: the Eagles big bodied receiver, be that AJ Brown. From
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  Speaker 2: a frame perspective, he can't. No one's going to replace
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  Speaker 2: AJ Brown. You simply can't do that. AJ Brown is
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  Speaker 2: one of the best receivers in the NFL, But Don
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  Speaker 2: tavi and Wicks is going to have to be that
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  Speaker 2: contested catch guy. He's going to have to be that
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  Speaker 2: perimeter receiver who wins those fifty to fifty balls and
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  Speaker 2: creates yards after the catch. Can work the red zone
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. He's a short intermediate receiver. He knows
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  Speaker 2: how to separate, and that's a very enticing characteristic that
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  Speaker 2: he has and probably his most prominent. But until you
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  Speaker 2: see it play out over the full course of the
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  Speaker 2: season or even consistent period the early state, let's say
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  Speaker 2: the first month or two, it's hard to right now
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  Speaker 2: go into it and say, yeah, he's gonna have fifty
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  Speaker 2: five catches and he's a you know, now that he's
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  Speaker 2: in this offense with this quarterback and this offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna have fifty five catches, no problem, and answer
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  Speaker 2: whatever questions the Eagles have with the passing game and
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  Speaker 2: compliment DeVante Smith ideally compliment the kayle Lemon. Now, we
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: have to see it first, and I think that it's
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  Speaker 2: fair to have the wide receiver group as a storyline,
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  Speaker 2: and that's something I'll certainly be looking to watch.
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  Speaker 2: The Eagles have done a really good job this offseason
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: assembling a receiving corps that has different body types, different skill.
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  Speaker 1: Sets, and that should give them a lot more balance
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  Speaker 1: and optionality.
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  Speaker 2: But you have to see it before you can make
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  Speaker 2: any sort of determinations.
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  Speaker 1: But one thing is certain. I have no questions about
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  Speaker 1: Devonte Smith being.
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  Speaker 2: Able to take that top take to that top spot
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  Speaker 2: and really thrive because he's made significant strides every season
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  Speaker 2: and just a polished product, one of the best route
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  Speaker 2: runners at his position, So that's.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of the way that I see it. Then you
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  Speaker 1: have Hollywood Brown, who is a.
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  Speaker 2: Deep threat in theory, but he hasn't really been deployed
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  Speaker 2: as such in his career in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 1: That could change.
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts throws a really nice deep ball, and Hollywood
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  Speaker 2: Brown has that skill set that sets him apart from
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: some of the other players, and so when he's on
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: the field, you'd like to see the Eagles send him deep,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: stretch the defense, create spacing, and free up teammates.
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  Speaker 1: Even if he's not getting the football.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of intrigue with this group, but
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: there's also a lot of questions aside from Devonte Smith.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: So the storyline for me, the final one would be
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: how do the Eagles go about replacing the production of
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: aj Brown with this wide receiving corps. So those are
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: my three storylines on the offensive side. Tomorrow, I'm going
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: to take a look at my questions on the defensive side,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: and I have to I have to think really tough,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: really long and hard about that because it's a group
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: right now that I view among the NFL's elite and
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: they have a lot of continuity on that side, but
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I will have a few to keep an eye on,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: and they're not concerned. They're storylines always important to keep
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: in mind here. But for now, that's going to do
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: it for this episode of to check O Daily. I'm
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Andrew to Checko.
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  Speaker 1: Get you all on the next one.