Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: David Banner Talks 'The Family Business,' Settling At 50, Working With Jill Scott, Music Industry
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Everybody is the e j Envy, Jess hilarious. Charlamagne the
- 0:09Speaker 2: guy we are the Breakfast Club just is out on
- 0:11Speaker 2: LaRosa feeling it.
- 0:12Speaker 3: We got a special guest in.
- 0:13Speaker 1: The building, David Banner.
- 0:15Speaker 3: How you feeling.
- 0:16Speaker 1: I'm feeling so good.
- 0:17Speaker 3: Good to see you. I'd like to hear it to you.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Man, it's good, it's good. What's been going on, brother
- 0:24Speaker 1: man so much? First of all, I want to say
- 0:26Speaker 1: thank you to you all. There's a lot of amazing things,
- 0:30Speaker 1: a lot of things that are changing in my life.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I'm making a whole lot of money. You're doing great.
- 0:35Speaker 1: It's different now you know what I'm talking about. I
- 0:41Speaker 1: just shut your pockets down. You know what I'm talking about.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Four hundred thousand fell out this man, pocket Man. That's
- 0:46Speaker 1: just changed. That's the change man. But but the thing is, Man,
- 0:50Speaker 1: I wanted to thank you all because a lot of
- 0:52Speaker 1: times we invest our time and you all have built
- 0:55Speaker 1: a certain crowd and certain rapport with people, and to
- 0:58Speaker 1: give it to me. You know, there was a conversation
- 1:01Speaker 1: that me and Charlomagne had off off camera. I called
- 1:04Speaker 1: him before the first time I came to the show
- 1:07Speaker 1: and I was like, Bro, I'm really serious about the
- 1:10Speaker 1: liberation of my black people of black people, man, and
- 1:13Speaker 1: it means a lot to me. And we had a very,
- 1:16Speaker 1: very in depth conversation. You remember that conversation, and like
- 1:20Speaker 1: our relationship has grown since then. Bro, I was even
- 1:23Speaker 1: talking about you introducing me to your family. Bro. You
- 1:25Speaker 1: remember we had dinner. You brought your family so I
- 1:28Speaker 1: can meet them. That kind of stuff matters to me, man,
- 1:30Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of rappers don't get the
- 1:33Speaker 1: opportunity to grow. It was funny BT said something to
- 1:36Speaker 1: me when one o six and Park was still on TV.
- 1:39Speaker 1: They said, David Banner, you are one of the few
- 1:41Speaker 1: or only artists that talks about anything of substance. They said.
- 1:45Speaker 1: The ratings might not go up, they said, but they
- 1:47Speaker 1: don't drop, and we have never seen that. So for
- 1:50Speaker 1: you all to give me the opportunity to grow and
- 1:53Speaker 1: turn into you know, this, this this thing, because you
- 1:57Speaker 1: know this is sort of sad, but Prince died and
- 2:00Speaker 1: you know, as as much as that hurts me, it
- 2:02Speaker 1: did open up the opportunity for me to be the
- 2:04Speaker 1: sexiest motherfucker on this planet. And it has happened, and
- 2:08Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club has allowed me to slide into that place.
- 2:12Speaker 1: We start wearing now.
- 2:15Speaker 4: The energy homegirlf on that na a CP red carpet.
- 2:18Speaker 4: That was the sexy ever energy.
- 2:20Speaker 3: You tell us.
- 2:21Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not gonna say no name, but one
- 2:23Speaker 5: of our producers in here just randomly yelled out something.
- 2:26Speaker 3: You're like, Mississippi.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Never heard her when she said in the building that
- 2:33Speaker 1: could be literal. No, they said, you know what I'm saying.
- 2:37Speaker 1: But let me say, let me tell you something about that.
- 2:41Speaker 1: I do want to clear this up though, is that
- 2:44Speaker 1: people think that I'm joking about my admiration for black women.
- 2:48Speaker 1: I'm dead serious. And what some people are uncomfortable with.
- 2:52Speaker 1: They're not used to a black man giving admiration. And
- 2:54Speaker 1: I don't want anything from you just because I think
- 2:57Speaker 1: that you're beautiful, just because I speaking about you know
- 3:00Speaker 1: how I feel about the black woman in general. I
- 3:03Speaker 1: want anything from you, but to let you know how
- 3:07Speaker 1: I feel. And sometimes we don't believe in ourselves, and
- 3:10Speaker 1: it's hard to really think that there is a man
- 3:14Speaker 1: that really really feels that way without it having some
- 3:16Speaker 1: type of game connected to it. Because bro, I'll say
- 3:19Speaker 1: this and nobody ever noticed it. Since I've been in college,
- 3:23Speaker 1: SGA president at Southern University, I have consistently, for the
- 3:26Speaker 1: most part, outside of my actual art, been the same man. Consistently.
- 3:32Speaker 1: I have never sold our people out. I've never done
- 3:35Speaker 1: anything flaw and it's like, you know, when we do something,
- 3:40Speaker 1: they either try to make a joke of it or pop.
- 3:43Speaker 1: You know, when I came out and say I'm ready
- 3:45Speaker 1: to be married, you know, people found a way to
- 3:48Speaker 1: poke at that. I thought you said, you know, not
- 3:50Speaker 1: having any diseases, not whooping on nobody, raping nobody, not
- 3:54Speaker 1: having four thousand kids. I thought that was amazing and awesome,
- 3:58Speaker 1: you know. So for me, I am again grateful. I
- 4:01Speaker 1: do want to tell you something, though, Bro, you did
- 4:05Speaker 1: something that you'll forever have an ally. I spent close
- 4:11Speaker 1: to a million dollars on the presentation of the Godbox.
- 4:15Speaker 1: I told Black people about streaming. Now everybody's coming back
- 4:18Speaker 1: saying that me new Prince t I was right when
- 4:24Speaker 1: we told folks about how stupid the concept of streaming
- 4:27Speaker 1: was right. Everybody ran towards that. One of the reasons
- 4:31Speaker 1: why The Godbox wasn't as successful at the time because
- 4:33Speaker 1: I wouldn't let him stream it because I had just
- 4:35Speaker 1: gotten to the point where I got nine dollars an album.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Imagine that, g you go from having dollars and cents
- 4:43Speaker 1: to micro pennies, things that you can't even calculate. And Bro,
- 4:48Speaker 1: you stood up in front of the world and told
- 4:51Speaker 1: people that you believe that The Godbox was one of
- 4:54Speaker 1: the best hip hop albums of all times. Bro. And
- 4:57Speaker 1: you didn't have to do that. It was though you
- 4:59Speaker 1: put your still but still you know, and I know
- 5:02Speaker 1: how much you fight for it because I see what
- 5:04Speaker 1: you've done for me, Mike, everybody you get the opportunity
- 5:07Speaker 1: to you, being from the South, get you put us
- 5:09Speaker 1: in positions that we normally are not in, Bro. And
- 5:12Speaker 1: what people didn't understand is every time that I do
- 5:16Speaker 1: hip hop, every time that I do what people say
- 5:19Speaker 1: that we should do, I lose money. Wow. When I stay,
- 5:23Speaker 1: you know, doing the stuff that America wants young black
- 5:26Speaker 1: men or black men to do in general, I stay
- 5:29Speaker 1: getting bread. But you got to think about crooked letters,
- 5:32Speaker 1: me and ninth one. This album a death of I
- 5:36Speaker 1: mean the death of a pop star The Godbox. Bro.
- 5:39Speaker 1: I don't spent almost two million dollars of my own money,
- 5:43Speaker 1: bringing what we call real hip hop out and people
- 5:47Speaker 1: just talk about it. And Bro, you put your career
- 5:50Speaker 1: on the line and I will never ever ever and
- 5:53Speaker 1: usually we only hear the negative shit, dug. But as
- 5:57Speaker 1: a man, Bro, I was paying my own money. Billboards,
- 6:00Speaker 1: everything that you've seen for David Banner for the last
- 6:02Speaker 1: fifteen years, that's my bread. That's why you might see
- 6:05Speaker 1: me out in the streets picking up flies. I'm serious,
- 6:09Speaker 1: that's my money. You feel me? So I like to
- 6:12Speaker 1: thank y'all, you know, as a whole, and I appreciate.
- 6:14Speaker 3: All of you. You said something just now that I
- 6:16Speaker 3: stress all the time.
- 6:17Speaker 5: If you want black people to do a certain thing,
- 6:19Speaker 5: when they do it, you got to support it.
- 6:23Speaker 1: And you know these Namborghinis and Ferrari's cost I need
- 6:28Speaker 1: my bread.
- 6:30Speaker 5: You talked about it. I did see people getting on
- 6:32Speaker 5: you about this. Why now, at the age of fifty,
- 6:34Speaker 5: do you think you're ready to settle down?
- 6:35Speaker 1: All right? Peep this now this. Let me put on
- 6:37Speaker 1: my glasses for this so we can did this right now?
- 6:40Speaker 1: All right? So people talk about love languages, right. I
- 6:44Speaker 1: told a young lady this and it's shocked her. I said,
- 6:47Speaker 1: what are your what are your main love languages? What
- 6:49Speaker 1: do you see in want out of a man? She said,
- 6:51Speaker 1: I want him to be successful and I want him
- 6:54Speaker 1: to spend time. How how I'm a fucking actor, this
- 7:01Speaker 1: a top tier producer, a top tier rapper actor. I
- 7:06Speaker 1: do more than most people do in their one career,
- 7:11Speaker 1: in my five or four or five careers. When do
- 7:15Speaker 1: I have time? If you want me to be successful?
- 7:19Speaker 1: Whenning the fuck do I have time? People? Ever? Know?
- 7:21Speaker 1: People didn't notice my ten year run. Think about this, dude,
- 7:24Speaker 1: When I wasn't putting out like a pimp. I was
- 7:26Speaker 1: producing Wayne or Chris Brown or Maroon five or Quincy Jones.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Quincy Jones, I did that, okay, me and Warren Campbell ye?
- 7:36Speaker 1: Or I was acting people forget Black Snake Mown. It's
- 7:41Speaker 1: funny they think that I'm just starting this. I've been
- 7:43Speaker 1: done thirty eight films or television shows. Right, one of
- 7:48Speaker 1: the top people on the speaking circuit. Right, When do
- 7:53Speaker 1: I have time? So then if I were to get
- 7:57Speaker 1: a wife, right, she'll be at home, be an absent provider,
- 8:01Speaker 1: and then people will talk about it and raise my
- 8:03Speaker 1: kids or didn't have time with my wife? We have
- 8:05Speaker 1: to choose what it is we want to do, and
- 8:08Speaker 1: then I'm successful at it. I won so and then
- 8:13Speaker 1: the other thing that I always wonder is why do
- 8:15Speaker 1: grown people care about? Can I curse? Yeah? Yeah, I
- 8:20Speaker 1: just I try. You know what I'm saying, because I
- 8:21Speaker 1: go over there sometimes, who are fucking I'm grown? And
- 8:27Speaker 1: then they don't say nothing about them white folks who
- 8:29Speaker 1: have wives and kids, thirty eight thousand children, we don't
- 8:33Speaker 1: say that, Bro. I did what people said was the
- 8:36Speaker 1: honorable thing to do. So we keep thinking that we winning.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Look at the shit that we say about good people.
- 8:43Speaker 1: You'll make me not want to fuck with you no more.
- 8:46Speaker 1: You tell kids what to do and what the right
- 8:48Speaker 1: thing to do, and then they do the right thing,
- 8:50Speaker 1: and you still talk shit. That's why I tell these rappers,
- 8:53Speaker 1: do what the fuck you want to do, because people
- 8:55Speaker 1: are gonna criticize you regardless of what you do, no
- 8:57Speaker 1: matter how good you are. Bro, you ain't never heard
- 9:01Speaker 1: of that negative besides me getting to fight with them cops,
- 9:04Speaker 1: that's the only thing. And when that happened, I was
- 9:07Speaker 1: protecting black people. So we act like we're winning. We
- 9:12Speaker 1: act like we got all of these leaders, and then
- 9:14Speaker 1: when you do have the people that do the right thing,
- 9:16Speaker 1: that's how you do them. I was there was this
- 9:20Speaker 1: documentary last night that I went to being first on
- 9:23Speaker 1: the call Sheet, and I was watching Denzel's portrayal of
- 9:28Speaker 1: Malcolm X right and it hit me, and it hit me, bro,
- 9:31Speaker 1: because I was thinking about, like, how many Malcolms. You know,
- 9:36Speaker 1: how many Betty shabez Is we have in current time?
- 9:40Speaker 1: And we always talk about Marcus Garvey and Martin Luther King,
- 9:43Speaker 1: but there's people that I like them to this day.
- 9:45Speaker 1: I give you a great example. As much as people
- 9:48Speaker 1: revere Killer Mike, you and I know how long Killer
- 9:51Speaker 1: Mike has been doing it. We know that most Black
- 9:53Speaker 1: people don't even know his real group. They don't even
- 9:56Speaker 1: really know why he's popular. And so the fact that
- 9:59Speaker 1: he decides to come back to our community is a
- 10:02Speaker 1: blessing because he probably shouldn't because of the way that
- 10:05Speaker 1: we treated him. I was producing. I produced Mike on
- 10:08Speaker 1: the what his first mixtape or the second mixtape? Right,
- 10:11Speaker 1: So I've watched how hard he work and he had
- 10:13Speaker 1: to go to another community, and Bro, that's happening in
- 10:16Speaker 1: me now. Like I had one of my mentors, Bro,
- 10:20Speaker 1: he told me, he said better. You always get in
- 10:22Speaker 1: a position of power and then you throw it all
- 10:25Speaker 1: away for your people, and then you have to go
- 10:27Speaker 1: somewhere else and build it all the way back up
- 10:29Speaker 1: to come back and give it back again. And people
- 10:32Speaker 1: are not really being reciprocal. I do what I do
- 10:35Speaker 1: by the grace of God, and I do what I
- 10:37Speaker 1: do because I truly, truly love my people. But what
- 10:40Speaker 1: I am not is stupid. So to answer your question
- 10:45Speaker 1: really quickly, is that I have a library, extensive library,
- 10:51Speaker 1: and I write in the pages of my books to
- 10:53Speaker 1: my unborn children. I tell him right now, I love you,
- 10:56Speaker 1: and I don't even know you. I love you so
- 10:59Speaker 1: much much that I couldn't pick my mother and father.
- 11:02Speaker 1: You couldn't pick your mother and father, But I can
- 11:04Speaker 1: pick yours. So I will make sure that I do
- 11:08Speaker 1: that with honor. I will make sure that I will
- 11:10Speaker 1: take my time, because right now the only thing that
- 11:13Speaker 1: I'm focused on. Bro. You know where we're from, dog,
- 11:16Speaker 1: I'm from Mississippi. There's no way in the fuck I
- 11:19Speaker 1: supposed to be here. I bent time. So the thing,
- 11:22Speaker 1: if you notice, man and all of us in here
- 11:24Speaker 1: are successful in a way that most people are not
- 11:28Speaker 1: every story that you read of substance, whether it's in
- 11:31Speaker 1: the Quran or the Bible or the tour, is really
- 11:34Speaker 1: about what you are willing to sacrifice. I wanted seven children,
- 11:38Speaker 1: I wanted a few rappers. I want to be married.
- 11:41Speaker 1: But usually if you want something that bad, you have
- 11:45Speaker 1: to sacrifice that other thing that you wanted the most.
- 11:49Speaker 1: But the cool thing is when I do fire and
- 11:51Speaker 1: she don't have to want for shit, my kids won't
- 11:53Speaker 1: have to be able to go to their football games.
- 11:55Speaker 1: I'll be able to take years out to make sure
- 11:57Speaker 1: that they are right. So I just hate what people
- 12:00Speaker 1: say because I love black folks so much and I
- 12:01Speaker 1: can't act like it don't bother me? Nv it does?
- 12:05Speaker 1: You know?
- 12:05Speaker 4: I was going to ask you did the marriage conversation
- 12:07Speaker 4: bother you? Because it's kind of backwards for people to
- 12:09Speaker 4: be upset when you're accomplished and you can devote that time.
- 12:13Speaker 4: They're like, bro, So you don't like they made it
- 12:15Speaker 4: almost like a They made it not almost. They made
- 12:18Speaker 4: it a negative thing for you to say, I'm ready
- 12:20Speaker 4: now because I can devote the time and energy.
- 12:22Speaker 6: How did that make you feel?
- 12:23Speaker 1: And I'm doing superhero movies? How are you gonna be
- 12:26Speaker 1: out here. Y'all know that don't work with my job.
- 12:30Speaker 1: You fucking with my money? Why are you doing that?
- 12:33Speaker 1: Because I look, sweetheart, do me a favor. I know
- 12:36Speaker 1: you're used to gazing at mortals, closed eyes, about the
- 12:41Speaker 1: closest you're gonna get to God. Okay that happened. Yeah,
- 12:45Speaker 1: so insane.
- 12:46Speaker 6: Man, I'm feeling the carpet vibes.
- 12:48Speaker 1: I get it.
- 12:49Speaker 6: It don't stop, baby, But I think, but I think
- 12:53Speaker 6: with you.
- 12:53Speaker 4: People are so used to like people saying things for
- 12:56Speaker 4: clickbait like whatever, which hasn't ever been you. I don't
- 12:59Speaker 4: know how people confuse that because I feel the energy
- 13:01Speaker 4: like you mean what you're saying.
- 13:02Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Since I've been in college
- 13:04Speaker 1: at Southern, I stood for the same thing. You've never seen,
- 13:07Speaker 1: no flaw in me. I'm not saying that I won't
- 13:09Speaker 1: make a mistake.
- 13:10Speaker 3: You don't speak enough.
- 13:12Speaker 5: I want, I want, I want, man, I've always wanted
- 13:14Speaker 5: many to be out there more.
- 13:15Speaker 1: What the reason why is? Because they just killed my ass?
- 13:18Speaker 1: Like like the real truth is and and Charlone may
- 13:21Speaker 1: not know you understand this because we have a personal relationship, bro. Now,
- 13:25Speaker 1: ain't the time to be talking. We are at war war,
- 13:28Speaker 1: and I didn't come here for that. I'm gonna stay
- 13:30Speaker 1: on family business and so y'all know, but we are
- 13:33Speaker 1: at middle war. You can't name an outwardly strong, vocal
- 13:37Speaker 1: black man in the last three years, and and and
- 13:39Speaker 1: and I've been very sick. That was the reason why
- 13:44Speaker 1: I took time off. I had gotten sick. I think
- 13:46Speaker 1: God set me down, bro, because if I would have
- 13:50Speaker 1: been in the banner that y'all knowing love, that would
- 13:52Speaker 1: have killed me. I'm for sure. I mean, we know
- 13:55Speaker 1: they We now know corn Tail pro really existed. You
- 13:58Speaker 1: can go and get it in the foules. The United
- 14:01Speaker 1: States government will send it to you what they did
- 14:03Speaker 1: to us. So we think that those people and those
- 14:06Speaker 1: things don't exist social media and so love. What I'll
- 14:10Speaker 1: tell you is to get that from the people that
- 14:13Speaker 1: you fight for and love. Do you know how bad
- 14:15Speaker 1: that hurts? Gonna look at that the last picture that
- 14:18Speaker 1: you've seen the pop look at that look in his eyes.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Look at Malcolm X his last picture, look at Martin
- 14:24Speaker 1: that got this looked like damn. That's what we get
- 14:27Speaker 1: from us. I expect that from them, but to get
- 14:31Speaker 1: it from the people that you care about, you fight for,
- 14:34Speaker 1: and that you that you really really because I could
- 14:38Speaker 1: be in much better places if I would shut my
- 14:40Speaker 1: motherfucking mouth. But it's hard for me to be in
- 14:43Speaker 1: this position of power and not speak for my people,
- 14:46Speaker 1: not stand for my people. But what I'm not gonna
- 14:49Speaker 1: be no more is broke. I'm putting me first for
- 14:52Speaker 1: I do anything. So the reason why I don't talk
- 14:54Speaker 1: more bro is because I've talked about the same thing
- 14:56Speaker 1: for the last fifteen years and we haven't done anything.
- 14:59Speaker 1: If you really think of whether it's Elijah Muhammad, whether
- 15:02Speaker 1: it's It's it's it's Malcolm for the most part, get
- 15:06Speaker 1: your own shit, shot with your own people, believe in,
- 15:09Speaker 1: love yourself, grow your own food. It's not the hate
- 15:12Speaker 1: of white people. It's not because that's something that I
- 15:16Speaker 1: haven't said. I wasn't gonna say it, but I will
- 15:18Speaker 1: say it. So y'all have something exclusively for you all
- 15:22Speaker 1: is I honestly don't even hate or have a problem
- 15:26Speaker 1: with white folks no more. And I'll tell you why.
- 15:30Speaker 1: I learned that there's a finite amount of energy in
- 15:32Speaker 1: the universe, right, and so whatever you spend your energy on,
- 15:38Speaker 1: you only have so much, right, So if I only
- 15:41Speaker 1: have one hundred percent and most of my life is
- 15:43Speaker 1: spent on talking about how they have oppressed us, what
- 15:46Speaker 1: they've done to us, then fifty percent of your energy
- 15:49Speaker 1: is gone that could be used for attraction of love
- 15:53Speaker 1: and money and knowledge and information. What I know now
- 15:58Speaker 1: is I know what they've done to us. So it's
- 16:00Speaker 1: like if you go and kiss sarattlesnake, would you be
- 16:04Speaker 1: mad that that rattlesnake bit you in the mouth because
- 16:07Speaker 1: you know better. So if you know historically what they
- 16:11Speaker 1: have done to you, why would you keep going over there?
- 16:14Speaker 1: It's stupid? Right, So what I do now is I
- 16:17Speaker 1: understand who and what I am dealing with, and now
- 16:21Speaker 1: I concentrate on love and attraction and building what I
- 16:25Speaker 1: want to see for my people. Because the powerful thing
- 16:28Speaker 1: about that I always talk about this, the powerful thing
- 16:30Speaker 1: about the Black Panthers. People thought it was the black
- 16:33Speaker 1: fist and the Afros. It wasn't it was food. They
- 16:37Speaker 1: took care of people's children. And then on top of that,
- 16:41Speaker 1: I look alsome.
- 16:43Speaker 4: I remember we were speaking, Wait, do you feel like
- 16:46Speaker 4: the pushback came mostly from women or men?
- 16:48Speaker 6: On the marriage conversation I.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Actually have to say that something happened recently that I
- 16:55Speaker 1: don't want to talk about, and black men stood up
- 16:57Speaker 1: for me. They really really stood up for me. Like
- 17:01Speaker 1: like my family called me and said, man, go look
- 17:03Speaker 1: in the comments, bro, like black men are saying like
- 17:06Speaker 1: he the one that always stands up. He was the
- 17:09Speaker 1: one that was at Katrina. He was the one that
- 17:11Speaker 1: when this happened, and that why are we doing this
- 17:13Speaker 1: to him? You know? And what I'll say about the
- 17:16Speaker 1: black woman is that my resurgence is because of the
- 17:20Speaker 1: black woman and their love and admiration for me. And
- 17:23Speaker 1: usually it's just one person. See, we don't read the comments.
- 17:27Speaker 1: T Payne taught me this like, and that's somebody that
- 17:30Speaker 1: I have love and admiration for. He is one of
- 17:33Speaker 1: the premier people in our culture and we should treat
- 17:36Speaker 1: him better. I just want to say that shout out
- 17:39Speaker 1: to Ali Sidik too, one of my favorite comedians on
- 17:43Speaker 1: in the whole wide planet. Bro, that's my hommie, that
- 17:49Speaker 1: that we should just make sure that we do better
- 17:52Speaker 1: with treating each other, you know, and respecting each other.
- 17:55Speaker 1: And a black woman has done that for me. It's
- 17:57Speaker 1: just a lot of loud negative voices. It's one to people.
- 18:01Speaker 1: And what I will say is is, you know, black
- 18:05Speaker 1: women will tell somebody asks up about that. David Banner
- 18:08Speaker 1: and I just have to find a way to group
- 18:10Speaker 1: those people together. And I've started a company called Banner Vision,
- 18:14Speaker 1: my my movie company. We're about to do sci fi
- 18:17Speaker 1: movies and I'm really really excited about it. And it's
- 18:21Speaker 1: funny because I want to do a movie that's similar
- 18:24Speaker 1: to Love Jones and the people people will say, David Banner,
- 18:27Speaker 1: I thought you were doing sci fi. I said, well,
- 18:30Speaker 1: isn't Black Love in the media right now science fiction?
- 18:33Speaker 1: Because we damn sure don't see it.
- 18:35Speaker 3: That's my wife's favorite movie, you know, Jones.
- 18:38Speaker 1: And I really want to do it with Jill Scott
- 18:40Speaker 1: because like, I want a different body type. I want
- 18:43Speaker 1: a different type of sexy. Jill Scott is sexy in
- 18:47Speaker 1: a way that beautiful, Oh my god, just like all
- 18:51Speaker 1: even And it's funny. We just talked about Mississippi and
- 18:53Speaker 1: Philly before we came on, like shit from Philly, but
- 18:57Speaker 1: she got that Mississippi. Oh and you know, just just
- 19:02Speaker 1: on the loan, don't know. I should see if she
- 19:04Speaker 1: wants me to talk about it too late. I'm actually
- 19:06Speaker 1: helping her with an album right now. That's all I
- 19:08Speaker 1: can say that dope, Jill Scott. And it has been
- 19:12Speaker 1: one of the most eye opening because I only really produce.
- 19:18Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, people that I love or
- 19:20Speaker 1: care for or like young artists that I really believe
- 19:22Speaker 1: in music is taking a lot away from my spirit,
- 19:26Speaker 1: So why go back. It's the business of it. And
- 19:31Speaker 1: because we have gone into streaming, it's forcing the more
- 19:35Speaker 1: talented people out because as a business man, it don't
- 19:38Speaker 1: make no sense for me to spend all the money
- 19:39Speaker 1: that I spend. Most people don't spend money on music.
- 19:42Speaker 1: Watch this. I want you to really think about this.
- 19:45Speaker 1: This is crazy. Hold on right all right, here we go.
- 19:49Speaker 1: They have taken away American society and we have allowed
- 19:52Speaker 1: them to do this. Have taken away any hustle that
- 19:56Speaker 1: we can do and becoming a millionaire or a billionaire.
- 19:59Speaker 3: In a life and talk about that all the time, especially.
- 20:01Speaker 1: When you be like music. Right. They tried to take
- 20:05Speaker 1: away movies, but they were still making a lot of
- 20:08Speaker 1: money off of that, So they think about this as
- 20:11Speaker 1: much as they went to war about movies, they had
- 20:14Speaker 1: just done the same thing to music. They had just
- 20:17Speaker 1: taken all of the money. They take it, they took
- 20:19Speaker 1: the foundation, they put AI on top of it. They
- 20:22Speaker 1: were trying to do the same thing to music, I
- 20:24Speaker 1: mean movies and white folks like, nah, we're still making
- 20:26Speaker 1: a lot of money. Y'all can't do that to us yet. Dope,
- 20:29Speaker 1: And I'm not saying to sell dope, but anything that
- 20:32Speaker 1: we could do to make money and catch up with
- 20:34Speaker 1: them they've taken away from They have taken it away
- 20:37Speaker 1: from us, and we run right behind them and let
- 20:39Speaker 1: them do it. Every time Family Business New Orleans on
- 20:41Speaker 1: BT plus, it's very important for you to watch. My
- 20:44Speaker 1: name is David.
- 20:45Speaker 5: You know, I forgot what we were talking at that
- 20:47Speaker 5: one time, but you say this constantly, and I'm paraphrasing.
- 20:50Speaker 3: If you want me to be me, you gotta support me.
- 20:55Speaker 1: You hit me with that one, cuz I actually feel
- 20:57Speaker 1: that with my own team, it's like I'm forced to
- 21:01Speaker 1: be dealt with. Bro. I have that same energy of
- 21:06Speaker 1: a Muhammad Ali, like I want to be free. I
- 21:10Speaker 1: don't want to start stuff with people, but I want
- 21:12Speaker 1: to be able to speak freely. And the only way
- 21:14Speaker 1: that I can speak freely is either I got a
- 21:17Speaker 1: lot of bread or the people are really really behind me,
- 21:20Speaker 1: the real truth and we want to admit this. Bro,
- 21:23Speaker 1: you know, folks, or walk away from me. Bro. When
- 21:26Speaker 1: I was sick and you knew about it, bro, didn
- 21:28Speaker 1: nobody come see me. I was up in the North
- 21:31Speaker 1: Georgia Mountins by myself, and people left me up there.
- 21:34Speaker 1: And I think God allowed me to be in that
- 21:37Speaker 1: valley to really see that not even what you perceive
- 21:40Speaker 1: as being positive is before God. The movement ain't before God.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Helping black people ain't before God. So let me sit
- 21:48Speaker 1: you out here and show you what this feel like
- 21:50Speaker 1: alone and the crazy thing y'all. They still didn't find
- 21:53Speaker 1: out what was wrong with me, Like I got hold
- 21:56Speaker 1: of my blood pressure, my cholesterol, all of those things
- 21:59Speaker 1: sleep at me and all of those things, and they
- 22:01Speaker 1: still don't know. So God was like, okay, put something
- 22:04Speaker 1: before me again. So I'm putting nothing before me and now,
- 22:07Speaker 1: and I say this especially to you all, love, please
- 22:10Speaker 1: listen to me. I'm very serious about this. What I
- 22:13Speaker 1: found out in my valley is people treat you exactly
- 22:17Speaker 1: how you treat yourself. I was being a martyr, so
- 22:22Speaker 1: all black people brought me was death. My son got killed.
- 22:26Speaker 1: This happened. The police did this when I became about opulence.
- 22:30Speaker 1: Now people bring me money if people know. Like when
- 22:33Speaker 1: Erica Bad walk in the room, I don't care who
- 22:37Speaker 1: it is, it could be the nigga's nigga for nigga.
- 22:41Speaker 1: He stand up straight because she treats herself. She has
- 22:45Speaker 1: a standard for herself, whether it's the way that she eats,
- 22:48Speaker 1: whether it's the way that she thinks. I saw Erica
- 22:51Speaker 1: do something that was so powerful one time. She I
- 22:54Speaker 1: believe she pulled the vibrations. She did the vibrations to
- 22:58Speaker 1: get all the negative energy whoever came before her. Let
- 23:01Speaker 1: me clear out the whole stadium. She played positive vibrations,
- 23:05Speaker 1: high level vibrations. She said, let me clear this ship
- 23:07Speaker 1: out before I get started.
- 23:09Speaker 5: And so like man for me, see, we got to
- 23:11Speaker 5: overlook in the room right there in the middle of
- 23:13Speaker 5: the center, and.
- 23:15Speaker 1: Y'all get ready. Man, y'all might as well go ahead
- 23:17Speaker 1: and get me whole section. I'm about to tell you
- 23:20Speaker 1: motherfucker mouth out when y'all see what's under here. When
- 23:25Speaker 1: I decide to show my abs and my chest, I'm
- 23:28Speaker 1: gonna come up here just for that. It ain't gonna
- 23:30Speaker 1: be for nothing that you can see. I mean, if
- 23:34Speaker 1: you want, are you sure you know?
- 23:36Speaker 3: It was funny when you was like, I want you
- 23:37Speaker 3: to listen to this love Lord, I'm listening found on
- 23:48Speaker 3: this too.
- 23:48Speaker 5: You said, I saw you in the interview said black
- 23:51Speaker 5: people don't take care of our ol g. So you
- 23:52Speaker 5: don't want to be an og in the black community
- 23:54Speaker 5: because we don't take care of our elders, we don't
- 23:57Speaker 5: take care of our leaders.
- 23:58Speaker 3: I tell agree with you.
- 24:01Speaker 4: Yeah, well, but you can't help it if you and said, well,
- 24:04Speaker 4: what else you're going to be because you're there for a
- 24:06Speaker 4: lot of people.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Well, the thing is is that it's cool. But I'm
- 24:09Speaker 1: telling you that I don't want it, so you can
- 24:11Speaker 1: get that energy to somebody else. Don't give me my
- 24:14Speaker 1: flowers and keep your fucking flowers. I can't spend or
- 24:17Speaker 1: eat flowers. I want your money and your attention. I
- 24:20Speaker 1: want the same thing you give white people. Give me
- 24:22Speaker 1: your money and attention. If you're not giving me that,
- 24:24Speaker 1: I'm not an og. I said this in that same interview.
- 24:27Speaker 1: I was I was debating one time and I said,
- 24:31Speaker 1: do you all do black people think I'm the antithesis
- 24:33Speaker 1: of Trump? And they said, yes, I do the opposite, right, Okay, well,
- 24:37Speaker 1: then that means I should have as much money from
- 24:40Speaker 1: the black community as Trump gets from the white community,
- 24:42Speaker 1: if you love me that way. But we say one
- 24:46Speaker 1: thing and do the other. Oh we want positive music,
- 24:49Speaker 1: but you don't pay for positive music. Oh we want
- 24:51Speaker 1: a leader, but you don't take care of your leaders.
- 24:53Speaker 1: And that same clip it was crazy. I don't know
- 24:55Speaker 1: if you saw this. It went sort of viral. They
- 24:58Speaker 1: put that part where they said, I don't want to
- 24:59Speaker 1: be OG. I don't want to be an og because
- 25:01Speaker 1: you don't take care of your eldest. Then they cut
- 25:04Speaker 1: to I believe Malcolm X's daughter and somebody asks her,
- 25:07Speaker 1: do you think that the black community took care of
- 25:10Speaker 1: your family? And she said, I don't believe so, So
- 25:14Speaker 1: why would I want to be something? Why would I
- 25:16Speaker 1: kids want to be a king when we allowed the
- 25:18Speaker 1: other one to get killed? Kids don't. That's one of
- 25:22Speaker 1: the reasons why I'm so fly. That's one of the
- 25:23Speaker 1: reasons why I want to You know, I'm whipping it
- 25:25Speaker 1: for Riris, and I'm whipping the Lamborghinis on purpose because
- 25:29Speaker 1: when kids usually see somebody conscious, they broke. I don't
- 25:33Speaker 1: want to fucking be broke. Why we don't have to
- 25:36Speaker 1: we give everybody else our disposable money, even if every
- 25:40Speaker 1: black person gave this is this is something I'm gonna try.
- 25:43Speaker 1: Me and you we're gonna talk about this. Think about
- 25:45Speaker 1: how powerful this show is. Right and I say, here
- 25:48Speaker 1: go my cash app. My name is David Banner. I
- 25:50Speaker 1: want to shoot a seven million dollar movie. Let's raise
- 25:53Speaker 1: the money right now on the breakfast club. Right now,
- 25:56Speaker 1: here go my cash app. I ain't fucking gotta go
- 25:58Speaker 1: through nobody else. I'm going to the fucking people. That's
- 26:02Speaker 1: true power. But are we willing to really do that?
- 26:06Speaker 1: Because most of it comes from self hate. I don't
- 26:09Speaker 1: believe that I'm shipped. So how dare David Banner call
- 26:12Speaker 1: himself a god? How? How dare David Banner look that
- 26:15Speaker 1: fucking good? That you know what I'm saying? My wife
- 26:19Speaker 1: and my daughter and all the women around me really
- 26:22Speaker 1: want to have as much sex with him as they
- 26:24Speaker 1: possibly can, but I don't know if it's possible.
- 26:26Speaker 6: The way he just looked at me, I was like,
- 26:27Speaker 6: what is happening?
- 26:28Speaker 1: Right?
- 26:29Speaker 4: I'm not sweating, I just it was it was intentional, intentional.
- 26:33Speaker 6: Look it it's a piercing look. I'm like, you know
- 26:36Speaker 6: what you're doing, but.
- 26:38Speaker 1: But doesn't that feel But doesn't that feel good? Serious?
- 26:41Speaker 6: It's very intentional thinking about it.
- 26:43Speaker 1: It's intentional and what I what I would want.
- 26:45Speaker 4: To do pass I think I'm glowing, but that's ah.
- 26:51Speaker 6: Another conversation.
- 26:53Speaker 3: Another know she's single too.
- 26:54Speaker 1: She went to an HBCU.
- 26:55Speaker 6: She's Emmy, can we can we not? Let's go back right?
- 27:00Speaker 1: Why? Why?
- 27:04Speaker 6: Stuff like that.
- 27:05Speaker 1: She went to Delaware State. She got her degree.
- 27:07Speaker 2: She's very bright, has her own she already invested in real.
- 27:10Speaker 1: Estate, got a couple of properties.
- 27:13Speaker 3: It was gonna make a hard putting that on them.
- 27:16Speaker 1: It's great, that's what I did. So listen, I put
- 27:25Speaker 1: I'm very intelligent.
- 27:26Speaker 6: She's a go get them.
- 27:29Speaker 1: I'm not square. She partied. She get dressed, so I
- 27:33Speaker 1: put cologne here, put cologne here, cologne here and here,
- 27:38Speaker 1: so that when somebody hugs me that they can go
- 27:41Speaker 1: they put their nose right there. You know what I'm saying.
- 27:43Speaker 1: When I shake somebody's hand. Learned this when I was
- 27:46Speaker 1: at Southern and Business class that everybody has a four
- 27:49Speaker 1: point zero so at the time, that's when they put
- 27:51Speaker 1: resumes on paper. Sometimes the quality of the paper is
- 27:56Speaker 1: the difference between you getting that job. And I remember
- 27:59Speaker 1: my ex girlfriend and told me, she said, you know
- 28:01Speaker 1: why I called you back. I said why? She said,
- 28:05Speaker 1: because I smelled your black ass. For the rest of
- 28:07Speaker 1: the night. I could now. I took baths and I
- 28:09Speaker 1: could not wipe your scent off of me.
- 28:12Speaker 3: Man, like a pipples more than the record.
- 28:20Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. Actually, I can bind sense now
- 28:23Speaker 1: because I don't want to smell like anybody else. So
- 28:25Speaker 1: depending on where I go and what time of day,
- 28:27Speaker 1: it is like one of the things that y'all and
- 28:30Speaker 1: I really need y'all to watch this. I'm going to
- 28:33Speaker 1: bring masculinity. I'm going to bring masculinity back to high fashion.
- 28:39Speaker 1: I'm going to bring masculinity back because sometimes people make
- 28:42Speaker 1: us feel like being what God made you be is
- 28:45Speaker 1: oppressive to somebody else. It's not. It's because I love
- 28:48Speaker 1: black people, don't mean I hate white folks. Just because
- 28:50Speaker 1: I love being a man and love being honorable, don't
- 28:53Speaker 1: mean that I'm taking any space from anybody else who
- 28:55Speaker 1: don't feel the same. So for me, all of this
- 28:58Speaker 1: stuff that I do is intentional. You know, I want
- 29:01Speaker 1: to be like when I told you I'm making sci
- 29:04Speaker 1: fi movies. I want to be a superhero for my people.
- 29:07Speaker 1: And instead of with most black people I see who
- 29:10Speaker 1: are actors do, I don't want to take it away
- 29:12Speaker 1: from the community. And that's what family business helped me do.
- 29:15Speaker 1: I came. Family business blessed me to be able to
- 29:18Speaker 1: get my like of pimp fans back without compromising my spirit.
- 29:22Speaker 1: So I'm about to gather all the black folks up
- 29:25Speaker 1: and I'm taking them with me. Think you lost them though, well,
- 29:28Speaker 1: because I don't. I don't say I lost them, But
- 29:31Speaker 1: what I can say is that I didn't make enough
- 29:35Speaker 1: material that would bring me back in a way that
- 29:38Speaker 1: was familiar to that because it was hard, Like this
- 29:42Speaker 1: is the real truth, and we got to be honest
- 29:44Speaker 1: with each other. I make fight music better than just
- 29:46Speaker 1: about anybody on this planet. That's what I'm great at.
- 29:49Speaker 1: Spiritual music, fight me, that's what that's what I love,
- 29:53Speaker 1: and I'm actually great at it. And it's almost like
- 29:57Speaker 1: a wizard because I bet you nobody ever noticed this.
- 30:01Speaker 1: There was hardly ever a fight at any David Banner show,
- 30:04Speaker 1: and people didn't notice as violent as my music was
- 30:07Speaker 1: because I willed that power response, were responsible, I might
- 30:10Speaker 1: get your job broke. And right when I felt that
- 30:13Speaker 1: spirit or somebody's about to get their fucking head buss
- 30:15Speaker 1: calex on twenty twos, calm your black ass down and
- 30:21Speaker 1: get mood or something like that. You know what I'm saying,
- 30:23Speaker 1: and I believe great DJs do the same thing. Be
- 30:25Speaker 1: honest with me, bro, you can feel it. Yeah, you
- 30:27Speaker 1: can feel right about to get pregnant white before they
- 30:31Speaker 1: about to get their head bust and if you are
- 30:33Speaker 1: a responsible person, right before motherfucker about to get cut,
- 30:38Speaker 1: your move to something else.
- 30:39Speaker 4: If you care to the ladies, do you feel like
- 30:42Speaker 4: your intention and like your commitment to like black people
- 30:45Speaker 4: in the black community who you keep seeing like the
- 30:46Speaker 4: love waivers. I know you dealt with like mental health
- 30:49Speaker 4: things and you talked about like no one's immune to
- 30:51Speaker 4: mental health issues. Do you feel like your want to
- 30:54Speaker 4: serve a community that you never get to that goalpost?
- 30:57Speaker 6: Like is do you feel like that fucks with you,
- 30:59Speaker 6: like that fucks with the man to her?
- 31:00Speaker 1: All right, do me a favor ask ask the question
- 31:03Speaker 1: for me in one sentence, so I can so I
- 31:05Speaker 1: can I can give you the answer in the proper way.
- 31:09Speaker 4: Do you feel like your love and commitment to the
- 31:11Speaker 4: black community and affects your your mental health?
- 31:14Speaker 1: Hell yeah, affects my money, affects my relationships. I was.
- 31:21Speaker 1: I was. I fell in love once with a woman
- 31:26Speaker 1: that wasn't one hundred percent black, but she didn't look black.
- 31:30Speaker 3: And doctor Humal would not have approve.
- 31:33Speaker 1: But I'm not that that part I don't worry about
- 31:35Speaker 1: because we live our lives for other people. Only thing
- 31:38Speaker 1: I give a fuck about is being happy. You know
- 31:40Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We live our lives for outside people.
- 31:43Speaker 1: But you know, and to be honest with you, I
- 31:47Speaker 1: probably should have stayed with her. I'd have been a
- 31:49Speaker 1: lot happier. But I cared too much about the perception
- 31:54Speaker 1: of what my people thought, and I shouldn't have done that.
- 31:57Speaker 1: I should have just did what was best for me.
- 31:59Speaker 3: That we was talk you that lesson did not care
- 32:01Speaker 3: about what people think so much.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Well, that and the fact that you know, like after Katrina,
- 32:06Speaker 1: as much work as I did, people left me alone.
- 32:09Speaker 1: I was almost broke. You know. People didn't realize that
- 32:12Speaker 1: I had play during that time. I had the number
- 32:14Speaker 1: one rap single and I never go back and look,
- 32:17Speaker 1: I never ever promoted my album because one thing I
- 32:21Speaker 1: didn't want to do is ever make people. I didn't
- 32:23Speaker 1: ever want people to think that I was using the
- 32:26Speaker 1: movement to make money. So I never cross collateralized. When
- 32:31Speaker 1: I talked about if I came to talk about the people,
- 32:33Speaker 1: I talked about the people. If I came to get money,
- 32:35Speaker 1: I came to get money. And what I even found
- 32:38Speaker 1: out is a lot of my rapper friends would push
- 32:40Speaker 1: me up there so I could do it and lose
- 32:42Speaker 1: my career, and they went and got money. You know
- 32:44Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I heardful.
- 32:45Speaker 2: It was that because I heard you mentioned money a lot, right,
- 32:48Speaker 2: and you sacrificed a lot of.
- 32:50Speaker 1: Money by twelve million dollars I counted it. And you
- 32:52Speaker 1: feel like.
- 32:55Speaker 2: People didn't come and help you, People didn't come and
- 32:58Speaker 2: protect you like they should have, because I I hear
- 33:00Speaker 2: it in your voice so much, like you feel like
- 33:02Speaker 2: you sacrifice this. But at one point it seemed like
- 33:04Speaker 2: damn I had to struggle. I was fucked up and
- 33:06Speaker 2: nobody helped me. Is that what I'm hearing from David Ben?
- 33:09Speaker 1: Not no more because God got me in, not no more.
- 33:11Speaker 1: But before God got me in a way and all
- 33:14Speaker 1: of those pain is nothing but to push you in
- 33:16Speaker 1: the right direction, That's all it is. And again, my
- 33:19Speaker 1: blessings don't come from man. They come through man, but
- 33:22Speaker 1: they come from God. So like, yeah, it hurt me
- 33:25Speaker 1: because even think about this, I just learned this concept.
- 33:29Speaker 1: Watch this. When we bless somebody, right, our ego leads
- 33:34Speaker 1: us to want to get that blessing back from them,
- 33:37Speaker 1: specifically from them, But if they had the power to
- 33:42Speaker 1: do that, they wouldn't have needed your blessings in the
- 33:44Speaker 1: first fucking place. So the thing is, I don't even
- 33:48Speaker 1: want my blessings back from the people that I get
- 33:50Speaker 1: it from because it blocks God's ability to give it
- 33:53Speaker 1: to me. So, like I'll give you a great example.
- 33:56Speaker 1: They could have gave me the money back, but there's
- 33:58Speaker 1: not too many artists that comes from generation that I
- 34:01Speaker 1: come from that would even garner the respect of your
- 34:04Speaker 1: fans for me to be on this fucking platform. Think
- 34:07Speaker 1: about my homies that came up that so so many
- 34:10Speaker 1: millions of records more than I did. They can't even
- 34:12Speaker 1: come up here even if you wanted them to come.
- 34:16Speaker 1: God blessed me to actually even still be here. So
- 34:21Speaker 1: all of those things, Think about that when I did
- 34:23Speaker 1: what I did for Katrina, that made me bigger than
- 34:25Speaker 1: a rapper. It may have not manifested in money, but
- 34:29Speaker 1: it did manifest in grace and protection. When I lived
- 34:33Speaker 1: There's a certain city that I lived in that when
- 34:36Speaker 1: I left that city, I realized the type of motherfuckers
- 34:39Speaker 1: that I was around, and I didn't know they was
- 34:42Speaker 1: that level of They were real killers, and they kept
- 34:47Speaker 1: me away from all of that because they respected what
- 34:49Speaker 1: I did as a man. You can't buy that shit.
- 34:53Speaker 1: You can't get honored, bro, You can't get respect, bro.
- 34:56Speaker 1: That's what I love so much about Nipsey. As much
- 34:59Speaker 1: as he was a his money, honor you knew him.
- 35:02Speaker 3: Honor was first, bro.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Honor was first. So as much as envy as it
- 35:07Speaker 1: did hurt me, look at the man that I am
- 35:10Speaker 1: right now, I wouldn't have been who I am right now.
- 35:13Speaker 1: Like my my, My, my Asian natural pathic healer, he
- 35:18Speaker 1: told me something. He said, your ability to love, to
- 35:23Speaker 1: love is in direct proportion to how much pain you
- 35:27Speaker 1: have experienced. So the deeper and the more you've been hurt,
- 35:31Speaker 1: the more capacity you have to love. But our ego
- 35:35Speaker 1: makes us not want to love because we have been hurt.
- 35:39Speaker 1: But actually that's like us saying I don't want my
- 35:41Speaker 1: arms to hurt while I'm doing this extra set. No,
- 35:43Speaker 1: we gotta make it has to hurt and envy. If
- 35:47Speaker 1: they knew how to treat themselves, then nine times out
- 35:51Speaker 1: of ten they would know how to treat me. And
- 35:53Speaker 1: if they knew how to treat me, they wouldn't need us.
- 35:57Speaker 3: That's what I always say.
- 35:58Speaker 5: I don't I don't judge anybody based on God's not
- 36:01Speaker 5: gonna judge me based off how other people treat me.
- 36:03Speaker 3: He's gonna judge me based off how I treat people.
- 36:05Speaker 3: That's a that's it.
- 36:07Speaker 4: Who was who was leading your team and stuff around
- 36:09Speaker 4: the time when you were doing all Katrina stuff because
- 36:10Speaker 4: you didn't have people in your ear like you should be
- 36:12Speaker 4: promoting the music, and like, what was your pushback to
- 36:14Speaker 4: them at that time?
- 36:15Speaker 1: Well? No, I mean I am such. This is the
- 36:17Speaker 1: crazy thing about me is that people are afraid of me.
- 36:21Speaker 1: And I didn't know how afraid people were of me,
- 36:25Speaker 1: because the thing is, bro, if I hadn't put my
- 36:27Speaker 1: hand around your neck, why you're worried about it? You know?
- 36:30Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of people were afraid
- 36:33Speaker 1: to tell me a lot of things, and I always
- 36:37Speaker 1: say that, let me know, just tell me I made.
- 36:39Speaker 1: I'm a big old bear. But if you say it
- 36:42Speaker 1: to me and I know that it's good. Like we
- 36:44Speaker 1: done had a couple of calls. Well we didn't talked
- 36:46Speaker 1: about it. Eight bro, you might not need to do this.
- 36:49Speaker 1: I remember I was going on CNN and a friend
- 36:51Speaker 1: of mine who works at Apple, he called me and
- 36:55Speaker 1: I told him what I was about to say on CNN.
- 36:57Speaker 1: If I would have said what I said, I would
- 36:59Speaker 1: have probably we had the biggest standing ovation in history
- 37:03Speaker 1: from black people. But it would have been the last
- 37:04Speaker 1: time I would have been on public TV. Yeah, I'd
- 37:07Speaker 1: have been done. And he said, Banner, we need you
- 37:09Speaker 1: for the long run. We don't need you for a
- 37:11Speaker 1: short term. So as much as you want to get
- 37:13Speaker 1: on there and say it, you done.
- 37:16Speaker 3: If you do it so and you've always been like that.
- 37:18Speaker 5: You've always been the person to say, man, y'all, we
- 37:20Speaker 5: talking too fucking much, and I'm talking so far much.
- 37:22Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's build schools, let's let's shoot the
- 37:26Speaker 1: movie like That's where I'm at now, you know. And
- 37:29Speaker 1: it's funny. Selo wrote a song and he put my
- 37:32Speaker 1: name in it cause I told Celo. Selo called me
- 37:34Speaker 1: one time like Ben, not ready to get back on
- 37:36Speaker 1: the front line. Shit, better stay your ass in Vegas
- 37:39Speaker 1: and get that damn bread. You can send some money
- 37:41Speaker 1: to the front line. But like and that that was
- 37:43Speaker 1: the name of it. Sound the goodie myself front Like
- 37:45Speaker 1: Danny Barnan told me, you know what I'm saying. I
- 37:47Speaker 1: told him, like, bro, no, we're the only people that
- 37:50Speaker 1: put our generals on the front line. Don't nobody in
- 37:53Speaker 1: the army. You can't even speak to a general, you
- 37:55Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So so for me love to
- 37:58Speaker 1: be honest with you. I had I had a great team,
- 38:01Speaker 1: and I had great people. But I'm so driven sometimes
- 38:05Speaker 1: that people are afraid to just tell me to sit
- 38:07Speaker 1: my ass down somewhere. And too a lot of that
- 38:10Speaker 1: came from fear. I'm grown enough and been through enough
- 38:13Speaker 1: therapy now to say that the David Banner that I
- 38:17Speaker 1: am now, I would beat the living shit out of
- 38:19Speaker 1: the old David Banner. Because if you think about a
- 38:22Speaker 1: komfu master or martial arts master, you barely ever see
- 38:26Speaker 1: them mad. The fuck they got to get mad for
- 38:29Speaker 1: being angry is ignorance, because if I know how to
- 38:32Speaker 1: snap your neck, I can snap your fucking neck and
- 38:34Speaker 1: it's over with. Keep it moving, not talking a whole
- 38:36Speaker 1: bunch of shit.
- 38:37Speaker 5: You know, I want to talk to you, talk about therapy.
- 38:39Speaker 5: You know I love therapy. You know I love just
- 38:42Speaker 5: being on a journey of healing. And I saw you
- 38:44Speaker 5: say you had to overcome some mental health issues, and
- 38:46Speaker 5: physically you've always pretty much kept yourself together. What made
- 38:49Speaker 5: you realize you had to get it together mentally and emotionally?
- 38:55Speaker 1: Bro this last time I went through it. Now the
- 39:00Speaker 1: first time in my life that I thought that I
- 39:02Speaker 1: may not come out of it, like I've been through
- 39:06Speaker 1: a lot. Dog People don't understand about people. These kids
- 39:11Speaker 1: say they want to be famous, but imagine coming from
- 39:15Speaker 1: the streets and where we're from, like we don't, we
- 39:20Speaker 1: don't allow people in. Like y'all know this. I didn't
- 39:23Speaker 1: smile the first fucking two years in my career. The
- 39:26Speaker 1: Mississippi album Days, Fuck you. We don't smile where we're from, y'all.
- 39:30Speaker 1: I gotta tell you this really happened to me. So
- 39:33Speaker 1: ten years old, I walk in the house, I'm playful.
- 39:37Speaker 1: My dad said, come here. He said, what the fuck
- 39:40Speaker 1: you smiling for? I said, huh. He said, I pay
- 39:43Speaker 1: all the bills and I ain't happy. What the fuck
- 39:46Speaker 1: you happy for? Damn, And I don't think I smiled
- 39:48Speaker 1: again till I was twenty one. Jesus, like Jackson, Mississippi
- 39:53Speaker 1: was the murder capital of the United States when I
- 39:54Speaker 1: was growing up. It's just that we was in the South,
- 39:56Speaker 1: so we didn't get the sexy looks, and that ain't
- 39:58Speaker 1: the thing to be proud of. But it took me
- 40:01Speaker 1: a while to understand that my happiness is my freedom. Like,
- 40:06Speaker 1: that's the reason why I correct people now. I'm not
- 40:08Speaker 1: gonna let nobody around me who not happy. I don't
- 40:11Speaker 1: want people around me that's not getting it. They don't
- 40:13Speaker 1: have the same type of drawl because you have energy vampires.
- 40:17Speaker 1: But bro, what I realized is that if I didn't
- 40:22Speaker 1: get on top of it. There's a book that I
- 40:25Speaker 1: read that they said that your mind is like a garden,
- 40:29Speaker 1: but the weeds, just like a garden, grow faster than
- 40:32Speaker 1: the fruit. So every day I got to put a
- 40:35Speaker 1: new thought in my head. I have to read something,
- 40:38Speaker 1: I have to stay on it because it's just so
- 40:40Speaker 1: much negativity man. And then I realized that I didn't
- 40:44Speaker 1: like myself. You know, I was hard, too hard on myself.
- 40:48Speaker 1: I didn't give myself grace. And this dude told me
- 40:51Speaker 1: one time, he said, God has forgiven you, haven't you
- 40:53Speaker 1: forgiven yourself? So I forgave myself for the things that
- 40:57Speaker 1: I did, man, and I really love no life. I
- 41:00Speaker 1: started loving me. This may say it sound strange, but
- 41:03Speaker 1: I date myself. Now. I date myself. I take care
- 41:07Speaker 1: of myself. That was the reason why I went and
- 41:10Speaker 1: bought the cars and all that kind of stuff. Think
- 41:12Speaker 1: about all the money that I made, and I ain't
- 41:14Speaker 1: had shit. Everybody else that didn't walk work a quarter
- 41:18Speaker 1: of how hard I worked had all this shit. My
- 41:22Speaker 1: third and command had more cars and shit than I did.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Not that it's about cars, but I just realized that
- 41:27Speaker 1: I was doing for everybody else and not me. Government
- 41:30Speaker 1: was coming. So once I started loving myself, Charlemagne and
- 41:34Speaker 1: I realized that if I didn't get control of it,
- 41:38Speaker 1: that I would be in a place forever. Because think
- 41:41Speaker 1: about this, bro, You can even be in a jail cell,
- 41:44Speaker 1: you can be at war, but know that you maybe
- 41:47Speaker 1: could get home if you hate yourself and your mind
- 41:52Speaker 1: is the prison. Bro. That's really hell. I gotta get
- 41:57Speaker 1: about that motherfucker. And I'm not playing with nobody. I
- 41:59Speaker 1: don't care if it's my mother, my cousin, anybody who
- 42:03Speaker 1: fucks with my mental health or my well being. I
- 42:05Speaker 1: got to get at you, well, leg you do therapy.
- 42:09Speaker 1: My mentor David Moody. He owns one of the most
- 42:14Speaker 1: successful black construction companies in the United States, and I
- 42:20Speaker 1: had I had a mentor. It was actually a woman,
- 42:24Speaker 1: and she came to me one day and she was like,
- 42:28Speaker 1: I can't do nothing with you no more. And I
- 42:29Speaker 1: was like what, and she said, you need a black
- 42:33Speaker 1: man in your life. And so this right after my
- 42:35Speaker 1: dad died. She introduced me to mister Moody and it
- 42:37Speaker 1: was crazy. We went and ate at a States spot
- 42:40Speaker 1: in Atlanta. LL COOLJ was in there, and so mister
- 42:43Speaker 1: Moody was like, I love ll cool J. And I
- 42:46Speaker 1: was like, let me go get ll get to get
- 42:48Speaker 1: him my autograph, like I know LLL and I ain't
- 42:50Speaker 1: know ll for shit. And I walked up said what's
- 42:52Speaker 1: up LLL, hoping that he knew me. It was like batter.
- 42:55Speaker 1: I was like, yes, like dog would you come take
- 42:57Speaker 1: a picture from me. He took the picture and then
- 42:59Speaker 1: missed the mood. Became my mentor and he was really
- 43:02Speaker 1: open to me. And it's funny. I was talking to
- 43:05Speaker 1: my publicity team and this is something that I want
- 43:07Speaker 1: to say, and y'all tell me if it's the same
- 43:08Speaker 1: with y'all. I didn't talk to my homeboys about the
- 43:12Speaker 1: ship that was going on with me, Like I just
- 43:15Speaker 1: recently had a conversation with my friends about anxiety. I'm like, dude,
- 43:19Speaker 1: I've been in the streets, tough, tough. Why the fuck
- 43:22Speaker 1: am I having anxiety about ship that's not life threatening?
- 43:27Speaker 1: It made me feel soft. I'm like, what the fuck
- 43:29Speaker 1: am I tripping for? I was on a really big
- 43:32Speaker 1: show recently and had a fucking anxiety attack. Me, dog,
- 43:36Speaker 1: I was like, I can't tell y'all, but I had
- 43:43Speaker 1: a straight out fucking anxiety attack. But then I realized
- 43:47Speaker 1: how important it was for me to have a better
- 43:49Speaker 1: team because I was doing too much shit, bro, you know,
- 43:53Speaker 1: And I wasn't talking to my friends. And mister Moody said,
- 43:56Speaker 1: they're not your friends if you can't talk to him,
- 43:59Speaker 1: because in the streets and Jackson, you don't trust nobody.
- 44:01Speaker 1: I don't care who it is. So I had always
- 44:04Speaker 1: been I had always been taught to not talk about
- 44:09Speaker 1: it and just hold it all in and y'all, this
- 44:12Speaker 1: is very personal. My Cortisoll levels was so high that
- 44:15Speaker 1: it was eating my body up. Like that's how stressed
- 44:19Speaker 1: dress I was, man, And it was killing me. And
- 44:22Speaker 1: so Mster Moody said, just talk to your friends. And
- 44:26Speaker 1: I called up my five tightest homeboys and it was
- 44:28Speaker 1: crazy because it was like they were waiting on me
- 44:30Speaker 1: to talk. I was like, my toughest homeboy, one of
- 44:32Speaker 1: my toughest homeboys he from Tusa, Oklahoma. I called him.
- 44:36Speaker 1: I was like, hey, b bro, you ever had an
- 44:38Speaker 1: anxiety attack? He was like fuck yeah. And like now
- 44:42Speaker 1: we talk and it's crazy because everybody trip, I'll be
- 44:44Speaker 1: on the phone with my home But I love you, dog,
- 44:46Speaker 1: I love you with all my heart. Brother to talk
- 44:48Speaker 1: to you later because we don't know if they're gonna live.
- 44:50Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, bro, So I had to
- 44:53Speaker 1: do it, man. And because I'm outwardly tougher than most people,
- 44:58Speaker 1: I can say stuff to these children that most people
- 45:00Speaker 1: are scared to say, Like I can say I had
- 45:02Speaker 1: an anxiety attack. That won't stop me from choking you.
- 45:06Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That won't stop me from
- 45:07Speaker 1: putting these legal But no, man, I'm grateful to God though,
- 45:14Speaker 1: because think about it, that now draws us closer. I
- 45:18Speaker 1: tell y'all this, this happened to me. It was like
- 45:20Speaker 1: either the bass player or the guitar player from Earth
- 45:22Speaker 1: Wind and Fire. He said he changed his religion because
- 45:25Speaker 1: of the Godbox that album. So I thought about it.
- 45:30Speaker 1: With so much music being out back in the day,
- 45:33Speaker 1: we remember what was number eight on Michael Jackson's album. Now,
- 45:36Speaker 1: it's so much music we don't but think about it.
- 45:39Speaker 1: If you are the person that helps someone to become conscious,
- 45:44Speaker 1: they'll never forget you for the rest of their life. Bro.
- 45:46Speaker 1: You helping me with that album. Bro, I will never
- 45:49Speaker 1: ever forget you for what you said. Bro, this man
- 45:52Speaker 1: got on TV when you and Joe Buttens was rating
- 45:56Speaker 1: the albums and you put the Gudbox on there and
- 45:59Speaker 1: they took it off because Joe Ones had never listened
- 46:00Speaker 1: to it. And I went in in front of him
- 46:02Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, no, it's like I'm independent that
- 46:06Speaker 1: and look whatever, Ruth, But I will never ever forget
- 46:09Speaker 1: you for that. So imagine if I'm the man that
- 46:13Speaker 1: allows someone to become conscious, or you the person that
- 46:16Speaker 1: teaches someone to tie their shoe, or someone who teaches
- 46:20Speaker 1: somebody how to ride a bike. That transcends all of that.
- 46:24Speaker 1: So for me to stand up as a man and say, yeah, y'all,
- 46:28Speaker 1: I'm all of these things, but I'm also not perfect.
- 46:32Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all saw that clip, that clip
- 46:34Speaker 1: with super viral, this young lady asked. She said, David Benner,
- 46:36Speaker 1: you got it sew together and I stopped it. I said, no, baby,
- 46:39Speaker 1: I'm a wrecked. She was like no, She couldn't believe it.
- 46:42Speaker 1: She was like no. I was like, yeah, baby, And
- 46:44Speaker 1: I'm only telling you that I'm a wrecked so that
- 46:46Speaker 1: whenever you become a wreck, you know that you can
- 46:48Speaker 1: still get up, put on some clothes, and keep it
- 46:50Speaker 1: moving every day. So when y'all see this, when y'all
- 46:54Speaker 1: see me vibrating, when y'all see me talking to shit,
- 46:57Speaker 1: it's because I am healed and I'm gonna do everything
- 47:00Speaker 1: that I possibly can to be a consummate example of
- 47:03Speaker 1: what a man looks like in America. And I hope
- 47:05Speaker 1: that I make y'all proud.
- 47:07Speaker 3: And part of that healing is telling your story.
- 47:09Speaker 5: Because you know, when I first started about dealing with
- 47:11Speaker 5: anxiety and depression, I.
- 47:12Speaker 3: Didn't know my father had been dealing with it his
- 47:14Speaker 3: whole life.
- 47:14Speaker 5: When I started telling my story back in like twenty eighteen,
- 47:16Speaker 5: my father told me that he was going to therapy
- 47:19Speaker 5: two and three times a week, that he tried to
- 47:21Speaker 5: commit suicide, that he was on ten to twelve different medications.
- 47:24Speaker 5: But you know, when you're from the South, they give
- 47:25Speaker 5: you what they call crazy pills.
- 47:26Speaker 3: Man, take these pills. Take these pills.
- 47:28Speaker 5: But imagine if he would have told me that when
- 47:30Speaker 5: I was younger, I would have known exactly what I
- 47:32Speaker 5: was dealing with.
- 47:32Speaker 3: So that's why you're telling your story.
- 47:34Speaker 1: It's so powerful it is and family business on BT plus, I.
- 47:42Speaker 5: Want to ask you one more cousins for you go,
- 47:44Speaker 5: what's more treacherous the music industry Hollywood?
- 47:47Speaker 3: Are the streets?
- 47:50Speaker 1: I think it's definitely not the streets. I think the streets.
- 47:52Speaker 1: You know what it is. It's clear, and that's what
- 47:56Speaker 1: I tell people this all the time. My preference is
- 47:59Speaker 1: Mississippi white people. And they say, why if a Mississippi
- 48:02Speaker 1: white person loves you, they will die for you. If
- 48:06Speaker 1: a Missississippi person doesn't white person doesn't like you, they'll
- 48:09Speaker 1: try to kill you. Unlike you're living up here next
- 48:12Speaker 1: to a white person and working with them every day
- 48:14Speaker 1: and they smiling in your face, and then it's time
- 48:16Speaker 1: for you to retire, your pension gone the industry, and
- 48:19Speaker 1: they've been smiling in your face all the time. At
- 48:20Speaker 1: least I know what it is, you know, and I
- 48:25Speaker 1: the streets, and it's so funny, man, I fell into
- 48:29Speaker 1: believing that this construct that we call the music industry
- 48:34Speaker 1: and the movie industry that is any different. It's no difference.
- 48:37Speaker 1: It's suppressive. It's built for you to fail. And that's
- 48:41Speaker 1: one of the reasons why, like a lot of people
- 48:43Speaker 1: get mad at me because as a producer, think about it,
- 48:45Speaker 1: I probably lost twenty thirty million. I'm one of the
- 48:47Speaker 1: top producers, and I never put out an artist. And
- 48:50Speaker 1: the reason why I never put out artists is because
- 48:52Speaker 1: I care about human beings and I know the game
- 48:54Speaker 1: is about throwing thirty five people lives on the wall,
- 48:59Speaker 1: and you have to become callous in order to do that.
- 49:02Speaker 1: That's the reason why hustlers do so good and in
- 49:06Speaker 1: the music industry because they've done so much on the
- 49:08Speaker 1: streets that they've already become callous. So being callous and
- 49:12Speaker 1: this shit is easy. You know what I had to
- 49:14Speaker 1: do out in front of my grandma house. In front
- 49:16Speaker 1: of my fucking grandma house. I had to serve my
- 49:19Speaker 1: fucking uncle. How you think I give a fuck about
- 49:22Speaker 1: this music shit? That shit is? He I care about people.
- 49:28Speaker 1: If I fuck with you, I mean it. One of
- 49:30Speaker 1: your friends that I whisper in your ear and tell
- 49:32Speaker 1: you who it is. I had to tell him, you
- 49:34Speaker 1: might have to rethink our friendship because I'm serious. If
- 49:38Speaker 1: I say I fuck with you, I mean it. So
- 49:40Speaker 1: if you come in town, it ain't that you got
- 49:42Speaker 1: to check in with me. But I want to see
- 49:44Speaker 1: my friend. I'm excited. I really think we homies. I
- 49:47Speaker 1: don't throw that shit around, bro, So for me, I'll say,
- 49:51Speaker 1: at least you know what the streets are. It is
- 49:55Speaker 1: what it is. You know what it is and ain't personal.
- 49:57Speaker 1: Let's keep it moving. I do like about the movies
- 50:02Speaker 1: is that usually as an actor, if I step on set,
- 50:06Speaker 1: my check there and so it is what it is.
- 50:10Speaker 1: I might not get much on the back end until
- 50:11Speaker 1: I'm able to negotiate at that level. But I noticed
- 50:14Speaker 1: amount of money. I can run with this money, and
- 50:16Speaker 1: I'm gone. It ain't personal, you know what I'm saying.
- 50:20Speaker 1: But what I will say is that I plan on
- 50:24Speaker 1: being one of the best actors who ever touched the screen.
- 50:28Speaker 1: I'm very serious about black art. I really think, you know,
- 50:32Speaker 1: as much as I love music, if people can't see it,
- 50:37Speaker 1: people don't understand. One of the reasons why the West
- 50:40Speaker 1: Coast popped off the way that they did is because
- 50:42Speaker 1: they had an hour and a half long video to
- 50:45Speaker 1: go with the music. When Snooping Them came out, Dreing
- 50:48Speaker 1: them came out, what else did they have? Minister society
- 50:52Speaker 1: boys in the hoods so like they had they had
- 50:55Speaker 1: like they had all of that, And we really didn't
- 50:58Speaker 1: believe that it was that into we saw the movies
- 51:01Speaker 1: and then we had the music. Oh shit, for real,
- 51:05Speaker 1: because people can say what they want to. They weren't
- 51:07Speaker 1: smoking like that to Snoop came out until we saw
- 51:09Speaker 1: it on the screen. It was like, yo. And if
- 51:11Speaker 1: you think about the South, we still haven't had that
- 51:14Speaker 1: one movie that properly depicts the South. Nope. If you
- 51:19Speaker 1: really think about the South Run. I always tell I
- 51:22Speaker 1: tell people this, they use us for cheap labor because
- 51:26Speaker 1: we still don't have our will Smith. We still don't
- 51:28Speaker 1: have our Queen Latifa. We're very close to it, we
- 51:31Speaker 1: still don't have our ice cube yet. And as much
- 51:34Speaker 1: as we talk stuff until we can cut a check
- 51:37Speaker 1: from where we stand, then it's still in New York
- 51:40Speaker 1: in LA. So like for me, that's what I want
- 51:43Speaker 1: to do. I want to cut a check. I don't
- 51:44Speaker 1: want to beg for DEI I want to give you
- 51:47Speaker 1: the job. Mean, we ain't got to worry about them
- 51:50Speaker 1: because even in the strike, y'all. And I know they
- 51:52Speaker 1: don't want me to talk about this, but how daring
- 51:56Speaker 1: someone tried to take away your whole livelihood, take away
- 52:00Speaker 1: your likeness, show you that they want to cut everything,
- 52:04Speaker 1: every tie that you have to sustainable lifelong generational wealth.
- 52:10Speaker 1: They're gonna cut that away from you. And then because
- 52:12Speaker 1: they give you some scraps, now we okay. Like when
- 52:15Speaker 1: Tip on Tip and Ernesteine boycott at Houston's in Atlanta,
- 52:22Speaker 1: I still ain't been there. I still not going back.
- 52:26Speaker 1: Once somebody show me what they really really mean and
- 52:29Speaker 1: how they feel about me, I ain't never going back
- 52:31Speaker 1: fuck you for life forever until you show me in
- 52:35Speaker 1: your efforts over time that you have changed. So for me, y'all, like,
- 52:40Speaker 1: when do we start identifying? And this is one thing
- 52:42Speaker 1: that I want to say about the kids. This is
- 52:44Speaker 1: what I love about the young revolutionaries. They don't talk
- 52:47Speaker 1: about the man, the man no Edward Jenkins who lives
- 52:53Speaker 1: in one fifty six Solid Street and won't say, yeah,
- 52:57Speaker 1: let's gonna get that motherfucker. Let's talk about the board member.
- 53:00Speaker 1: Let's specifically go to his fucking house. That's a revolutionary.
- 53:05Speaker 1: That's the ship that we should do. Family business. Say
- 53:13Speaker 1: something about family business.
- 53:15Speaker 6: I've seen it. You're good, You're great in it.
- 53:17Speaker 4: Leela vershan as like I love her, love the dynamic.
- 53:20Speaker 4: But I wanted because when I watch that, and I
- 53:22Speaker 4: know before you talked about loving acting so much it
- 53:24Speaker 4: almost made you leave music.
- 53:25Speaker 6: You're not thinking about doing that again, right.
- 53:28Speaker 1: I just stepped away from music. I'm almost to the
- 53:30Speaker 1: point financially, I'm very close. I want to get back
- 53:33Speaker 1: to making music like when we made it in high school.
- 53:36Speaker 1: I can put out music and it don't really matter,
- 53:38Speaker 1: Like I can just do it from a very pure place.
- 53:42Speaker 1: I spent a lot. I still mix and master, I
- 53:45Speaker 1: still pay artists, I still pay the bass players. So
- 53:48Speaker 1: like music is expensive to make, and black people give
- 53:52Speaker 1: their money to tech company, they don't give it to
- 53:54Speaker 1: the artists. That's so stupid to me. People who don't
- 53:56Speaker 1: even care about music. This is not a shot at
- 53:59Speaker 1: any one particular company. As a matter of fact, I'm
- 54:01Speaker 1: not going to say their name on would be smarter,
- 54:03Speaker 1: but this one particular company that we give all our
- 54:07Speaker 1: money to. Right, music is the last thing that they
- 54:10Speaker 1: care about in their company. But we give the thing
- 54:14Speaker 1: that means the most to us to a company that
- 54:16Speaker 1: cares nothing about music. It's not even on their front page,
- 54:20Speaker 1: much less black artists. Music in general, they just don't
- 54:22Speaker 1: give a damn about So you're gonna give your think
- 54:25Speaker 1: about it. It's tech moguls. They don't even like music.
- 54:29Speaker 1: They wasn't cool, They don't give a shit. They really
- 54:32Speaker 1: really don't, and they get We give them all our money,
- 54:34Speaker 1: our residual income, all of these things. And what they
- 54:37Speaker 1: did that was really really smart was they gave a
- 54:40Speaker 1: lot of money to one influential or two influencial artists.
- 54:43Speaker 1: It was one pop young lady and it was one
- 54:47Speaker 1: top rapper and we all followed them, no matter if
- 54:50Speaker 1: we were going to hell or not. But to answer
- 54:52Speaker 1: a question, to answer a question directly, I love I
- 54:59Speaker 1: love music, but it hurt me. And every time I
- 55:04Speaker 1: go back to music, I'm serious, every time I go
- 55:06Speaker 1: back to music is when I get depressed. So the
- 55:09Speaker 1: music industry or the music industry, well either way, because
- 55:12Speaker 1: I'm gonna sell my music. I'm I'm too old to
- 55:15Speaker 1: be doing shit and ain't making no bread, you know
- 55:16Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's built that way. But like
- 55:21Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Bro, every time I go
- 55:23Speaker 1: back to music, I start feeling that way again, and
- 55:26Speaker 1: I feel less free. So I said this in an interview.
- 55:29Speaker 1: If God is constantly saying, son, every time you go
- 55:32Speaker 1: over there you get hurt, why the fuck you keep
- 55:35Speaker 1: going over there? So, like you know, you know, Bro,
- 55:39Speaker 1: Like the Gudbox two is probably my best album, even
- 55:42Speaker 1: better than the first one. So many people jumped on Griselda, Bro.
- 55:47Speaker 1: They whole click jumped on the album for me. Bro,
- 55:51Speaker 1: I shoot, Bro like you name it, They on it,
- 55:54Speaker 1: Tip two, Chase, just everybody came through for me. Raheem
- 56:00Speaker 1: but I just feel like man like with the movies,
- 56:04Speaker 1: like I told you on the West Coast, I can
- 56:06Speaker 1: show people how I want them to think. I want
- 56:08Speaker 1: to lead this interview with saying this. I think that
- 56:11Speaker 1: black people look at freedom the same way they look
- 56:15Speaker 1: at death. Death may be better, we don't know, but
- 56:20Speaker 1: the fact that we don't know, we don't want to
- 56:22Speaker 1: try it out. So it's the same thing with freedom.
- 56:25Speaker 1: Until they know what freedom looks like. We got to
- 56:27Speaker 1: show them what it looks like. Think about our iPhone.
- 56:31Speaker 1: If you look at a not Star Wars, Star Trek,
- 56:35Speaker 1: besides teleportation, all that shit we can do on our iPhone. Now,
- 56:40Speaker 1: that's what sci fi is. It's preparing us for a future.
- 56:44Speaker 1: I said this man. It was a young black girl
- 56:46Speaker 1: who came in crying uncontrollably. Her dad say, what's wrong?
- 56:51Speaker 1: Why are you crying? She said, Daddy, are they gonna
- 56:53Speaker 1: be any black folks in the future? He said why?
- 56:56Speaker 1: She said, because I was watching the Jessons and I
- 56:58Speaker 1: didn't see any. So as much as we put out
- 57:01Speaker 1: good music, if people don't know what that looks like,
- 57:05Speaker 1: it don't matter. A bannervision. I love y'all. I appreciate it.
- 57:08Speaker 1: Make sure that y'all go and stream and look at
- 57:11Speaker 1: Family Business. You can look at all the episodes like
- 57:14Speaker 1: we like to do, even though y'all, we need y'all
- 57:17Speaker 1: to watch it every week so we can have those
- 57:20Speaker 1: elongated stats that we need, because if you look at
- 57:23Speaker 1: it in one city, then we're only gonna get that
- 57:27Speaker 1: credit for that day or for that week. But what
- 57:29Speaker 1: I'll tell you is like put on Family Business when
- 57:31Speaker 1: your Family Business New Orleans, when you're cleaning up, and
- 57:35Speaker 1: just let it stream all day. Just do that for
- 57:37Speaker 1: me when you cook it, even if you don't watch it.
- 57:39Speaker 1: Because I'll be honest with y'all, there's some black movies
- 57:42Speaker 1: that come out. I'll pay for the ticket and then
- 57:44Speaker 1: go watch Avengers. I sneak Avengers like like I did
- 57:47Speaker 1: back in the day. I'm just being honest with you.
- 57:49Speaker 5: I'm gonna get between this and the guns you carry
- 57:51Speaker 5: in the club. You gotta stop telling on yourself.
- 57:54Speaker 1: No, I'm telling them what I want you to do.
- 57:56Speaker 1: If they're gonna pay for a Bannavision and then they
- 57:58Speaker 1: gonna watch something else that up, give me the bread
- 58:01Speaker 1: what I said, Give me the bread and your attention.
- 58:05Speaker 3: Check on fight night.
- 58:06Speaker 1: Yeah, that's equalized with Queen Tree. I'm on that to night,
- 58:11Speaker 1: even though the night may be five years from now
- 58:14Speaker 1: if you're looking at it depends. Hey, y'all. But seriously, y'all,
- 58:16Speaker 1: thank y'all, thank you. I love y'all and it was.
- 58:19Speaker 6: Honored to meet you.
- 58:21Speaker 1: I would have flooded with you a little bit more,
- 58:23Speaker 1: but I don't want to think people people to think
- 58:25Speaker 1: that I'm just the whole jack No, no.
- 58:29Speaker 3: Smells, I'm sorry I do.
- 58:31Speaker 6: It's there.
- 58:33Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
- 58:34Speaker 3: It's David Banning.
- 58:36Speaker 1: Later, wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.