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Best of Chuck in the Morning 8-31 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Get the game on Hey, great Monday morning to you all.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the radio show. It is a Monday, and
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  Speaker 1: there is a ton to discuss during our four hours together.
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  Speaker 1: There is no way we can get it all done
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  Speaker 1: in four hours. That's why I have signed Ashley, Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: and I up for a 14-hour show today.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so glad.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I didn't ask beforehand, but I figured you'd
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  Speaker 1: be fine with it.
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  Speaker 3: What a pleasant surprise.
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  Speaker 1: We're just going to blow off all the other shows.
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  Speaker 1: They're not that important anyway.
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  Speaker 2: No one listens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Everybody knows this is the show that carries
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  Speaker 1: the mail around here.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: So welcome into the radio program. Hope you all had
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  Speaker 1: a great weekend out there. We've got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things to discuss, as I mentioned, and we will take
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  Speaker 1: you to at least 10 o'clock today to discuss them.
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  Speaker 1: How was your weekend? It was... Did you kill it?
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  Speaker 1: You're coming off a trip to Hawaii. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to hear like, oh, it was a little boring.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was great. It was really relaxing, which is
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  Speaker 2: I thought about going to meet up with some friends
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday evening, and they ended up playing golf longer,
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  Speaker 2: and I ended up putting on sweats and reading. And
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  Speaker 2: then when they were like, okay, come up here to
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  Speaker 2: the club, I was like, nah. I'm going to hang
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  Speaker 2: out here and we had a movie night.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to compare you to Hawaii. I'm just coming
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  Speaker 1: off Hawaii and you don't match up. You're not there.
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  Speaker 1: You're not that interesting or charming or funny.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we did movie night.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, now's an opportunity to watch
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  Speaker 2: a classic I haven't.
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  Speaker 1: Seen in a long time. Oh, no way.
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  Speaker 3: So I watched Blades of Glory.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no. Still not getting it. We tried. Nope,
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  Speaker 1: you're not there yet. It's funny, though.
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  Speaker 2: I'd never seen it before.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm even going to give you
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  Speaker 1: any credit there for any kind of effort made toward
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  Speaker 1: watching a classic. But Chaz Michael Michaels can be funny.
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  Speaker 1: He can also be unfunny, as it turns out.
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  Speaker 2: It's both. But I was like, you know, I've only
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  Speaker 2: seen bits and pieces of this, so let's dive in.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you missed. Sorry about it.
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  Speaker 2: That's all right.
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  Speaker 1: But hopefully you did enjoy movie night, even though I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that you technically watched a movie.
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  Speaker 3: Well, then we actually watched two movies.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, geez.
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  Speaker 3: We also watched a Key and Peele movie called Keanu.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Don't recommend it.
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  Speaker 1: That's the one with the cat, right? That's right.
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  Speaker 2: So Palmer, of course, wanted to watch that one.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I kind of get why Palmer would want to
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  Speaker 1: watch that. And those guys are hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: They are, but it was.
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  Speaker 1: Not good? I haven't seen that one.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, I mean, no, it wasn't good, but
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  Speaker 2: it kept my, I mean, it was entertaining. It's, it
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  Speaker 2: was fine.
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  Speaker 3: You knew going into it, it wasn't going to be
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  Speaker 3: like an Oscar winner.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever the lead, whenever the lead character's a cat, it's
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  Speaker 1: probably not going to get there.
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  Speaker 2: Should have been up at least for like a kiddie award.
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  Speaker 1: Well, remind me later in the show, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: about my movie going experience on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm excited for that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So we both did a movie night of some sorts.
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  Speaker 1: I did a movie day. You did a movie night.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, because you were at Rainier's
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  Speaker 2: on Friday night. So I'm excited to hear about this
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  Speaker 2: daytime activity.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into it. I'll have a movie review for
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  Speaker 1: you of a major motion picture a little later on
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  Speaker 1: in the radio show. Well, great morning to you. I'd
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  Speaker 1: tell you about my Friday movie day now, but we
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of big topics to get to today.
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  Speaker 1: So we better dive in. We better get dirty. Get
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  Speaker 1: it all over ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: Might as well.
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  Speaker 1: Right off the bat. I might argue that that was
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  Speaker 1: the worst Mariners weekend of my 11 years of being here.
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  Speaker 2: It was pretty ugly.
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  Speaker 1: Just atrocious.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be a prisoner of the moment. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I do leave room open that maybe I'm
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  Speaker 1: forgetting something. But in terms of seemed like you'd turn
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  Speaker 1: the season around. Seems like you were giving yourself a chance.
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  Speaker 1: Survive a gauntlet by going 8-5 against over 13-game stretch
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  Speaker 1: against some of the best competition and hottest teams, frankly,
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  Speaker 1: going into the series that you've played all season long. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're going on the road. It's not the comforts of home.
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  Speaker 1: But you did seem to build a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: momentum for this road trip. You knew what was at stake.
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  Speaker 1: You knew this was a rival. You knew this was
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  Speaker 1: the team that in that building knocked you out of
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  Speaker 1: going to the World Series a year ago. And I
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  Speaker 1: just thought I expected a team that was just going
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  Speaker 1: to be chewing through the walls to get out onto
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  Speaker 1: the baseball field and keep this thing going into the
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  Speaker 1: month of September, where eventually the schedule does lighten up,
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  Speaker 1: but you can't really afford to lose ground to those
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  Speaker 1: who you are chasing. And not only did you lose ground,
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  Speaker 1: you lost it in spectacular fashion. And when I say spectacular,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you were disgustingly bad all weekend long. And
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  Speaker 1: it started with Friday, and I did do the Rainiers game,
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  Speaker 1: so I wasn't able to watch it. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the first update I got was that Emerson Hancock was
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  Speaker 1: already down 3-0. By the time I got off the
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  Speaker 1: air with Softie and Fane on Friday, we were down 3-0.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's how the weekend started. And then the
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  Speaker 1: choice to, okay, well, number one, we don't have a
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  Speaker 1: long reliever. Number two, if we take Emerson Hancock out
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  Speaker 1: of this game, Dan's screwed for the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: year because he won't be able to figure out how
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  Speaker 1: to get through nine innings with a bullpen. And so
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  Speaker 1: we're going to let an injured pitcher pitch. And then
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  Speaker 1: the next thing you know, one run tacks on to another.
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  Speaker 1: He obviously wasn't right. You could see how uncomfortable he
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  Speaker 1: was on the mound. Now he was telling them the
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  Speaker 1: right things. It's just pain. I'm fine. And you would
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  Speaker 1: have liked, you would have hoped that you could stick
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  Speaker 1: with him and you could stay in the game and
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  Speaker 1: that there's nothing wrong and that he just has to
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  Speaker 1: deal with pain and not a true injury. But it
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  Speaker 1: turns out he was pitching through an injury on Friday.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's how the weekend starts. A blowout loss.
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  Speaker 1: And your starting pitcher pitching through an injury and not
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  Speaker 1: pitching well because your manager can't manage a bullpen if
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  Speaker 1: any kind of disaster occurs early in an inning or
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  Speaker 1: early in a game. Then you roll into Saturday, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll say this. This has been a team that has
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  Speaker 1: shown one thing this season, if nothing else. When they
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  Speaker 1: lose horribly, they tend to win the next game. When
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  Speaker 1: they lose horribly, we watch them. We're sure they're done.
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  Speaker 1: They're cooked. And then they come back the next day
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  Speaker 1: and play one of their better games that we've seen
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  Speaker 1: in a while. They've done it repeatedly. And yet, after
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  Speaker 1: a 3-0 lead.
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  Speaker 1: And it looked like they were going to do it again.
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  Speaker 1: And Kate Anderson's on a roll. And you've got all
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  Speaker 1: your best bullpen pieces available to you. All of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: Edward Bazzardo comes into the game, looks terrified. He won't
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  Speaker 1: throw a strike to anybody. He's just living, not just
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  Speaker 1: on the edge, off the edge. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if he was... horrified over what he experienced last year
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  Speaker 1: in the American league championship series in that building. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if he thinks Vladimir Guerrero jr. Is hitting
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  Speaker 1: the way that he typically does. That guy hasn't hit
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  Speaker 1: a home run at home. Why are we scared of him?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then, so he loads the bases and then he
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  Speaker 1: walks George Springer and we know the history between those two,
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  Speaker 1: but he walks by throwing a ball 10 feet off
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  Speaker 1: the plate and goes to the backstop, and so fear
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  Speaker 1: leads to the first Blue Jays run of the game,
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  Speaker 1: and then stupidity leads to the second because Bazzardo apparently
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  Speaker 1: checked out of the game. Your catcher's hustling after the
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  Speaker 1: ball and threw the ball hard to you at home plate.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think he did that? I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: one thing to not be aware of your surroundings and
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  Speaker 1: know that with the bases loaded in that wild of
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  Speaker 1: a pitch and they're going to get a running lead
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  Speaker 1: off of second base, that that runner has a chance
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  Speaker 1: to come around and score. It's one thing to not
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  Speaker 1: be aware of that. It's another thing to have it
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  Speaker 1: happen right in front of you where your catcher's hustling
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  Speaker 1: to get you the ball and you don't know why?
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  Speaker 1: And so another run scores, and it was over at
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  Speaker 1: that point, Ashley. Game was over at that point. 3-2,
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  Speaker 1: they'd just taken the lead, and the relief pitcher who
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  Speaker 1: came in to provide relief for Kate Anderson absolutely just
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  Speaker 1: folded right there before our eyes. And that combination of
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  Speaker 1: fear and stupidity set the tone for the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the game, and you lost it. Plain and simple.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. it was, I mean, just even going back to that, um,
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  Speaker 2: to that Emerson Hancock injury in the beginning on Friday
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  Speaker 2: my first thought was well I guess Miller won't be
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  Speaker 2: going to the pen because I mean the second he
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  Speaker 2: slid over and made the play. I mean, great for him.
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  Speaker 2: Good hustle.
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  Speaker 1: And he does that all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Too often, frankly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I was going to say, he wants
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  Speaker 2: to get the out. I love that about him, but
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  Speaker 2: at the same time, you also have to remember that
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  Speaker 2: your main thing is to stay healthy enough to pitch, right?
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  Speaker 1: And you're our gangly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You've got limbs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Long limbs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like a transformer going down a stairwell.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically. But yeah, that was my exact first thought is, well,
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  Speaker 2: there goes the idea of Miller to the pen because
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  Speaker 2: Hancock's going to be out.
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  Speaker 1: Well, then you get to Sunday and And you're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you have to play desperately on Sunday. I mean, that
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  Speaker 1: just has to be the mode. And I know Logan
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  Speaker 1: gave up the two-run homer, but I'm going to give
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  Speaker 1: Logan credit because that guy competes. And yeah, he gave
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  Speaker 1: up the two-run homer. He had a 30-pitch first inning.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, oh my gosh, where is this going today? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And he gave you a chance to be down two
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  Speaker 1: to nothing in the sixth. But we have a shortstop
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  Speaker 1: with no range. Literally no range. You might as well
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  Speaker 1: put Johnny Parade at shortstop.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's supposed to be like your most athletic
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  Speaker 1: person on the entire field.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And we have a shortstop with no range who can't
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  Speaker 1: catch a ground ball that every starting shortstop in Major
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  Speaker 1: League Baseball gets to, but our guy. So now it's
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  Speaker 1: three to nothing. But Gilbert, once again, I mean, Pete
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  Speaker 1: Woodworth came out and said, you might as well let
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  Speaker 1: it rip. You're coming out after the fifth inning. And
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  Speaker 1: he was like, nobody is scoring another run. So I'll
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  Speaker 1: give Logan credit for that. Nicest guy in the galaxy,
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  Speaker 1: but he is the one guy that showed backbone, it
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  Speaker 1: felt like to me. Cal did too. Cal played pretty
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  Speaker 1: well this weekend.
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  Speaker 5: He did.
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  Speaker 1: He can't throw anymore, which we'll talk about later in
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  Speaker 1: the show, but he did show grit. Logan showed grit.
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  Speaker 1: And then after that, Just nothing. No offensive performance. You
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  Speaker 1: get one hit off of Max Scherzer. He's throwing 92
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  Speaker 1: miles per hour, and you're late to the fastball.
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: He has a six-point-something ERA, and we made him look
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  Speaker 2: like a Cy Young contender.
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  Speaker 1: We made him look like Max Scherzer, the 30-year-old, instead
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  Speaker 1: of the thousand-year-old pitcher that he is right now. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's a legend, but he is a washed-up, googly-eyed legend.
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  Speaker 2: It was the most innings he's pitched, it was the
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  Speaker 2: least hits and runs he's given up, and it was
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  Speaker 2: the most strikeouts he's given up, or that he's had.
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  Speaker 1: He had twice the number of strikeouts he's had in
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  Speaker 1: his best performance this year. It looked like our hitters
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: were swinging underwater. That's how slow their bats look. They
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  Speaker 1: could not catch up to a 92-mile-per-hour fastball. And then
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  Speaker 1: once that, then he just carved them up with his guile,
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  Speaker 1: with his knowledge. Just carved every single person up that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't Cal Raleigh in the contest on Sunday. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you can't play worse than that. And a weekend series
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  Speaker 1: against a rival, against a team that knocked you out
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  Speaker 1: of the playoffs, considering your backs are against the wall,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the fight you want to show? That's it?
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  Speaker 3: That was not a fight, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: That was disgusting.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And look, five games out with a month to go.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah. I get that Dick Fane is promoting...
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  Speaker 1: That he picked this 19 days ago. Yeah, so did I.
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  Speaker 1: At the exact same time, it looks like it's over.
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  Speaker 1: You remember that. I said, it looks like it's over.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to come back. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I said. But that doesn't mean that they don't have
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  Speaker 1: a chance of coming back. And they certainly have the
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  Speaker 1: talent to come back. We stare at our team every day.
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  Speaker 1: We know it's warts and it's flaws and we're frustrated
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  Speaker 1: with it after five months of this garbage.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Were frustrated with it. But the thing is, the Astros
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  Speaker 1: fans are just as frustrated with their flawed team, and
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  Speaker 1: the Rangers fans never did believe in their flawed team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were going to get rid of everybody.
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  Speaker 1: They were going to trade everybody at the deadline. Neither
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  Speaker 1: of them added. We're the only team whose ownership and
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: front office actually believed in the product on the field.
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  Speaker 1: So certainly those two teams can be tracked down, and
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: they can be tracked down in no time. But you
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  Speaker 1: have to go on a run. And we thought maybe
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  Speaker 1: a run had started. Eight and five against great competition.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Toronto and Boston aren't bad teams, but Boston's cooled off
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  Speaker 1: and Toronto's never clicked this entire season. This was sort
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: of the chance to like, okay, four and two, three
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: and three at worst over the course of the next
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  Speaker 1: six days. And then we get home against soft competition.
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  Speaker 1: We're sitting there three, two games out of first place,
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  Speaker 1: and now we run the table.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it was supposed to go.
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  Speaker 1: That's got to be the mentality, right?
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And instead, you lose ground in Toronto because not only
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  Speaker 1: can you not win a game, you can't even compete.
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  Speaker 1: And that does reflect to me on the manager. I
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  Speaker 1: think it has all season long. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: know they like him, but he cannot press the right buttons.
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  Speaker 1: He cannot get them to play hard, play well, play
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  Speaker 1: with passion, play with... That's not it. It's not that
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  Speaker 1: they don't play hard. I know they want it, but
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: where's the focus? Where is that eye of the tiger?
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  Speaker 1: That was missing from the first pitch on Friday when
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: it should have been the first thing that arrived in Toronto.
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  Speaker 1: It should have shown up before your plane landed on
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  Speaker 1: the tarmac that you couldn't wait to get out there,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: beat the crap out of the Blue Jays, and really
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: set the tone for the month of September. And instead,
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  Speaker 1: you were garbage.
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  Speaker 6: All garbage.
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  Speaker 1: Weekend long it is to me the worst they've played
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  Speaker 1: all season and maybe the worst they've played in 11
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  Speaker 1: years considering the talent they have on the team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it was just i mean i i turned the
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: game off early yesterday because i was just that i
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: was that irritated i was that annoyed i was that
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  Speaker 2: disappointed you know what it's like when it's it's like
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: when your kid does something wrong Or your friend screws
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: up and you say, you know what? I'm not even mad.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just disappointed. It's like the worst thing you could
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  Speaker 3: say to them, right?
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: That's it. I'm just disappointed. And when we talked 19
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: days ago and you said that you didn't think they
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: were going to come back from this, I said, I
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: know that I'm going to do this. I'm going to
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: be this eternal optimist who's going to think that they've
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: got a chance until they're mathematically out of it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: And even then, I'll refuse to believe that they're out
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Because that is the stubborn-ass Mariners fan that I have
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: been for my whole life. And I wish that I
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: could give myself a break and just be like, you
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: know what? Okay, they're done. I'm just going to kick
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: my feet up and not stress about it anymore. But
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: after this past weekend, I found myself more pissed than
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I've been all season long. And also having more resolve. Like,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: come on, you guys are effing better than this. Yeah.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Because they are.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Supposed to be.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But nine games under. 500 right now. Dan Wilson,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I suppose, showed some urgency afterwards. He actually, after saying
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: again it was a tough one, which is every game
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: and how somebody has not corrected him on this is
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: beyond me.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, they have to know that fans get really
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: irritated that he does the same thing every time.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: And there is no way that somebody that is nervous...
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: in the shadow of answering questions from Shannon Dreher.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Is a leader. Like he is sitting there chomping his gum.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: Nervous.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Won't look anybody in the eye as he tells everybody. Yeah.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: We're running out of time.
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: That's the extent of it. Like, and that's no shot
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: at Shannon, but you have three reporters, three reporters. Cause
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: everybody's trimmed down their payrolls and the, You have Ryan Divish,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Daniel Kramer, and Shannon. That's it. Those are the three
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: people that you face every day. And you can't even
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: look them in the eye and tell them, we played
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: like garbage. And if we don't fix it starting tomorrow,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: we are going to fail miserably at our stated goals.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Something of that effect.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Something. I mean, again, I'll go back to when he
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: got kicked out and Manny Acta did the post game
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and it was the most information or at least the
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: most relief I've felt after a poopy game. It was like, oh, okay,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: so you do recognize that things aren't going great. I
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: want Dan to recognize that things aren't going great.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: There's nothing inspirational that we see about Dan.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: No, there's certainly not.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Now, what he's like behind the scenes, I don't know.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I know he's a good guy, and I know they
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: like him. Good guys tend to not get the most
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: out of a team that has a penchant for playing absent-minded.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: And that's where we have been. All season long. Even
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: when the season seems to be on the brink. Even
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: when you would think this would be the weekend of
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: all the weekends they played where they cannot wait to
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: get on the baseball field. And then you play like
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that for three days. That does reflect leadership.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Reflects leadership. All right. let's find out what's on tap
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the show.
• 19:54
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• 19:59
  Speaker 1: In Toronto 7, Mariners nothing. We'll recap it for you. Unfortunately,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: with Mariners morning after coming up at the bottom of
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the hour, Sweet puts the M's nine games under. 500
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: with a month to go. Five games back in the division.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: The Mariners will be in Boston tonight. It does not
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: get easier. The Red Sox got beat up by the Yankees,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: there was a controversial play. They ended up losing 16-1.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: They're angry right now. They're also at home, and they
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: are throwing not just a left-hander in Peyton Toley. He's
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the type of left-hander that I don't even see us
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: having a chance against.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, perfect.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Because he's going to come after you.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: And so that's the matchup today, and it's at 345.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: The Mariners have help on the way. They have called
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: up Laz Montez. From Tacoma, the guy that's hit 38
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: home runs in the minor leagues this year, top prospect,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: has been for quite some time. He will make his
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: major league debut. I don't know if it'll be tonight.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll put him in a lineup
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: against a lefty as tough as Toley, but the Red Sox,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I think, only have lefties. So he's got to play against,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I would imagine, I would imagine he's going to be
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: activated tonight. Can't imagine you brought him up for just
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: to sit him on the bench. But Laz Montez, who
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about more later on in the show, Emerson
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Hancock was placed on the entry list, which means Bryce
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Miller will not be taken out of the rotation. The
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Seahawks roster is now set. It is 53 men strong.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Greg Bell about that at 7.05.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: We'll go over the Hawks roster at 6.45 this morning.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Hawks traded for another cornerback yesterday, Avery Smith from the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers for a sixth round pick. John Schneider
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: had glowing things to say about Avery Smith. Then again,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: isn't that what you would say after you traded for someone?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Not many people are going to say, well, we'll see
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: how it works out. He might be decent.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: The preseason is mercifully over, and it ended in a tie, 9-9.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: That was fun, keeping score of last night.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: That's how that should go.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen will join us for Monday Morning Quarterback a
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: little bit later on in the show at 8 o'clock today.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald made it official. He is now back with
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams, having come out of retirement. I
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: still haven't heard word as to how they're going to
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: fit him under the salary cap at $ 30 million, but
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: maybe that information will leak out today. It is Apple
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Cup week.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, that sounds so weird.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: That is the weirdest thing that I've said in days.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Apple Cup week. So we count down the days till
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Sunday where the Apple Cup will be played. We'll get
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: that started today. The season is underway, and college football
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: highlighted by Bill Belichick actually starting his second season with
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: a victory over TCU. Scotty Scheffler won the FedEx Cup,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Curacao won the Little League World Series, and Dejan Jovalic
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: scored two goals in his debut with the Sounders, and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: they at least got a draw out of that game.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: against chicago all right a lot to do today mariners
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: morning after next sports radio 93.3 kjrfm infield in jimenez
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the centerfield for a base shot springer is in lucas
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: is coming home it's.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: A bad weekend in toronto six nothing blue jays Down
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: to their final out.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Ball game's over.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: And things could not have gone realistically any worse for
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: the Mariners over.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: The weekend in Toronto. They get swept and shut out today.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: 7-0 the final score. Thank you, Aaron. What's wrong with that?
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: What's wrong with us telling it like it is?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I liked both of them. I was like, I can't
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: decide which one.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I like he made it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: That's how I felt.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Angie called out Bizzardo. He should have been called out.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Nice work, you two.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Good work.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: 7 o'clock hour. It's Chuck and Ashley with you here
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: on this Monday. We have a lot to discuss today.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And in three minutes, Greg Bell will be joining us,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: our Seahawks Insider, to talk about the Seahawks roster. Cut
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: day was yesterday, so they have a 53-man roster, but
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's entirely complete. We'll get into that
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: with Greg here momentarily. Mariners TV obviously on the call
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: of that atrocious performance yesterday. 7-0, one hit by Max
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Scherzer and the Toronto Blue Jays. 15 strikeouts from the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: worst offense in baseball this year, and they do get
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: swept by the Toronto Blue Jays in Toronto. Puts them
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: nine games under with a month to go in the season,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: five games back in the American League West. The people
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: you're chasing are not very good. That's the silver lining
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: in all of this. But, man, just when you thought
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: maybe the Mariners are starting to piece some things together
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: and playing the way that they should be playing, they
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: play maybe their worst weekend of the entire year against
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays. Just a disaster. They go to Boston.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: And now that's at least two out of three, if
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: not a sweep, that you need against the Red Sox.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: And they have cooled off. I mean, they were as
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: hot as any baseball team could be there for about
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: a month and a half. They have cooled off, but
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: they're still good, and they still have a lot to
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: play for. So it's going to be a tough matchup tonight,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: 345 first pitch. Mariners will go with George Kirby coming
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: off arguably his best performance of the entire year. But
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Peyton Tolley, big, monstrous left-hander, throws hard and just comes
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: after you, is not a good matchup for the Mariners' offense. Perfect. Yeah, exactly. 345.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: We'll see if Laz Montez is in the lineup. He
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: got called up yesterday by the Mariners. It is September
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: call-ups time right now. But Laz Montez is, well, actually,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: tomorrow's September. Maybe he's not even, I don't know how
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that's going to work.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: They said that he was already called up. Yeah. Yeah.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I think he's called up. So I guess it's not
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: a September call up technically. Uh, so last month as
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: we'll see if he's in the lineup, Emerson Hancock was
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: placed on the injury list. It is apple cup week.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: As strange as that sounds. Um, we have a, an
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: apple cup matchup to start the season on a Sunday.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: So weird this year.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: And so we'll start that today, but we really will
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: be talking a lot of college football starting on tomorrow's show.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Scotty Scheffler won the FedEx Cup. Curacao won the Little
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: League World Series. Dejan Jovilic scored two goals in his
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: debut with the Sounders, and they earned a draw.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: We'll call it a draw.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Finally, Seahawks set their roster at 53 men. They had
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: to yesterday. We'll get into some of the decisions here
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: with Greg Bell in a matter of moments. One guy
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: that did make the roster is Avery Smith. Never heard
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: of him? Well, John traded for him over the weekend.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Another cornerback. And so Avery Smith acquired for a sixth-round
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: draft pick from the Los Angeles Chargers. He certainly made
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the roster yesterday. We'll find out more about him from Greg,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and we'll talk a little bit more about the preseason finale.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: A 9-9 tie. Just a wonderful way to wrap up
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the preseason.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: That's what football dreams are made of right there.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: A 9-9 tie to close out the preseason. Let's talk
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: to Greg.
• 27:53
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• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a beautiful, picturesque way to close out the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: so meaningful preseason, Greg, with a tie. Both teams in
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: single digits. It was wonderful to watch.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Well, the result of a tie doesn't really matter whether
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: they would have won, lost, or tied.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: It doesn't. It was just, well, okay. It happened at
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: the end of the tie. I once covered a preseason
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: game that went to overtime before they changed the rules.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: And it was when I was covering the Raiders, and
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: Bill Callahan went for it, kicked an extra point near
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: the end of regulation to force the overtime in Dallas.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: We were all bad.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: We went down to the locker room.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: What are you doing? Oh, to see more of our
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: team and get you. Yeah, so at least we don't
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: have overtime ties in preseason anymore.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: All right, well, we will discuss a couple of things
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: about the game, but that's certainly not the headline. The
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: headline is that the roster is set. And let's start
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: with Avery Smith because not a lot of people know
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: much about him, including myself. So who did the Seahawks
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: get in Avery Smith over the weekend?
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Well, he had a really big preseason for the Chargers
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: and got some national attention for it. And people around
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: the league saw how well he played. Undrafted rookie from Toledo.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: The Seahawks had two players in their training camp from
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Toledo that they're scouts and player personnel. People knew, well,
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Maxson hooked the safety. Andre Fuller, the drafted rookie cornerback,
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: both of them got cut. So they know Avery Smith
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: from having scouted him and have been on the Toledo
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: campus and been around him. And it looks like the
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: fact that they gave up a six-round pick to get him,
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: that they were just risking during the draft, instead of
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: drafting him, that they would be able to sign him
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: as an undrafted free agent, and the Chargers beat him out.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: And so now they recoup and get him back. They've
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: had a trove of scouting film and meetings that are
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: familiar with him, or else they wouldn't make this deal.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: You're right. Trade means he goes right onto the 53-man roster.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: John Schneider, yesterday we talked to him one of the
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: three times all year we get to talk to the
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: GM we see every day, said that he is able
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: to play inside a nickel, outside a corner, can do both,
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: and they'll ramp him up to Seattle's way. He did
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: play a system with the Chargers that's similar to Seattle's
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: defensive Mike McDonald system, and that helped, too. So that's
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: why they traded.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: All right, so what does this mean for Trayvon Diggs?
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: Well, Diggs Friday night looked to me like he won
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: the third quarterback job. When I saw him take off
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: his shoulder pads in the second quarter and get the
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: veteran starter treatment, hanging out with Witherspoon and Love and
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: those guys, I thought, well, he did it. He made it.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: And after a game, I asked McDonald how viable is
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Diggs as a week one player for you, and he
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: said viable. And so I thought, well, he not only
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: made a team, he's going to be a starter. He's
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: going to be the third corner. But they're doing roster gymnastics.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: And Snyder has gotten an agreement from Diggs that he
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: will sign from being an unrestricted free agent to the
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: practice squad. He can't do that until the waiver period
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: ends at 1 o'clock today. Even though he and others,
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: if you have four more years in the league, you're
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: considered a vested veteran and you're not subject to waivers.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: So he didn't have to go on waivers. He went
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: straight to being an unrestricted free agent. He can sign
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: with anybody, but he's given Snyder the word he's going
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: to sign back here to go to the practice squad
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: and ramp up and continue acclimating and getting ready, perhaps,
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: for the opener. But he's only had two, yesterday, three,
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: two practices. I didn't see him on the practice field
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: at the beginning yesterday. Two practices plus a preseason, one
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: and a half quarters, three drives at a preseason game.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: So the Seahawks want to see, while he's on the
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: practice squad, how ready he would be to play. So
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: that's another option at the third corner. Nehemiah Pritchett, they
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: kept on the roster. They cut Noah Yagbenogany. I think
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: Yagbenogany is one of the six veterans. They cut eight veterans.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: You can keep up to six on the practice squad.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: I think Yagbenogany is another one they're going to invite back.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: I think Nick Vanette is going to be one of
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: the two that they didn't of the eight they cut.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: They won't ask back to the practice squad at tight
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: end because they kept Nick Cowher up as their fourth
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: tight end.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: We have five corners on the roster, and one guy's
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: brand new. He doesn't know the system at all in Smith.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: And then Julian Neal has not really been available. So
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: what's going on with the rookie and his health status
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Well, Smith does know the defense. Like I said, he
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: played in the system in the Chargers, just like McDonald's.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: That's part of the reason they got him. I asked
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Julian Neal in Arrowhead Stadium Friday night, so you're already
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: all the way back now? Because I saw him practice
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: Thursday in Renton, and even Wednesday he was in full pads.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: And he kind of was giving me this, I don't know,
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: he didn't know what he was allowed to say. At
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: that point, he wasn't sure if he was going to
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: go on the injured list or not. And I thought
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: there was a good chance he would start on injured
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: reserve designated to return. But no, he's on the 53-man roster.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: As Snyder said yesterday, we don't, and we're not in
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: the business of cutting third-round picks. So they must think
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: he's ready health-wise to play in the first couple games.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: If they thought he was not ready, he had a
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: quad injury is what the GM said yesterday. If they
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: thought he was going to miss more than four games,
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: he would have got on injury reserve designated to return.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: So if not the opener, soon thereafter. But you're right,
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: he's missed most of training camp, which it's unrealistic to
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: think suddenly in nine days he's going to be ready
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: to play.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: One more cornerback question. Explain the situation with Terry and
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Arnold as it exists today.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of nuance to it. So they
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: signed him Saturday. Like we said, they waited until after
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: the Kansas City game so they could have all 91
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: guys to evaluate. And then on Saturday they signed him.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: They cut an offensive lineman. So he was on the
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: roster for a day. Then the commissioner yesterday put him
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: on the exempt list. The Seahawks were told by the
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: league what happened. So he was off of the 53-man roster.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: He doesn't count. He can do meetings. He can do
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: weight room. He can do everything inside the building. He
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: can't do anything on grass outside the building. He can't practice. Obviously,
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: he can't play. So when I asked Schneider to explain
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: how important it was to retain his rights, not just
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: for this year, but now that they've signed him, they've
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: got him as an exclusive rights or restricted fridge, depending
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: on how many weeks. If he's six weeks eligible on
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: the roster... This year he becomes a restricted free agent
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: because of his only two years of service time right now.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: If he doesn't play at all or fewer than six weeks,
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: he becomes an exclusive rights free agent, but both to Seattle.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: They did this, as Snyder said, for the long play.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: They did it for next year as well as potentially
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: this year. Their thinking is they believe from their investigation
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: that the legal system is going to let him eventually play,
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: whether it's mid to late this year or next year.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: and that they will have a first-round pick for next
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: to bottom basement minimum money as a restricted or exclusive
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: rights free agent. That's their long play. And the other
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: thing that Snyder said yesterday that was new is that
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Leon Washington, the first guy, one of the first guys
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: Snyder traded for back in 2010 in his first month
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: as a Seahawks GM, Leon Washington is, as Snyder said,
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: considered to be a father of to Terran Arnold. And
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: Washington's the one who told him, these allegations don't match
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: his character. This is so out of left field. I
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: think he's going to get off. This isn't him at all.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: And he convinced, the way Snyder made it sound like,
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: he convinced the GM to sign him. So they have
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: a potential first-round pick to come in in the middle
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: late this season or next season. And the way they're
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: looking at it, it was worth doing a minimum salary
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: deal for that.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: RCX Insider, Greg Bell with us this morning. He had
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: a busy day yesterday. All sorts of articles up at thenewstribune.com,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: so make sure you check them out. And, of course,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: his segment with us brought to you by the Emerald
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Queen Casino. We've got a lot of other ground to cover.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the running back room. Only three running
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: backs kept. Two of them have had injuries all preseason long.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe Price has passed his injuries and just being cautious
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: with him at this point. But that seems like an
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: awfully light running back room. Is it going to look
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: like that on opening day, or are they combing the
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: waiver wire to add some depth here?
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: No, they are. Larry will either claim somebody off waivers
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: and put them on the 53 today or or they'll
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: sign a free agent before the opener. I'm quite certain
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: of that. They also have the ability to bring to Cartier, right?
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: And back on Vellis Jones, back on the practice squad.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: If they want to do that, Jones ended last season
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: on the practice squad. Emmanuel Wilson came back. He was
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: full go in an arrowhead on Friday night in the pregame.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: He was taking passes and handoffs from Sam Donald, which
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: at our end price. And I asked after the game
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: about Wilson and, McDonald was pretty circumspect because I guess
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: at the moment he wasn't sure whether they were going
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: to put him on an injured list to start the
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: season or not. He, Wilson, is on the 53. They
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: like him as a plowback. So the way the Seahawks
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: see it now is that Price is their number one.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: Helani can be their third down back because he's a
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: good pass blocker. Also can catch the ball like Price.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: And then if they need one or two yards on
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: third or fourth down, Emmanuel Wilson is going to come
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: in and be the plowback. But you're right. They can't
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: get away with three running backs. No NFL team can.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: I keep saying it, but I covered a Seahawks team
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: that had 18 different ball carriers out of the backfield
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: about a decade ago. So they will sign multiple guys,
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: and whether it's one they know from Wright or Jones
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: off the practice squad, more likely to be an experienced
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: veteran that they sign as a free agent or a
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: waiver pickup.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Let's talk wide receivers because if there's a good story, now,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: of course, it comes at the expense of somebody else
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: who doesn't make the roster, but certainly the Montori Foster Jr.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: story is a great one. You were on it early, early,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: early in camp that he was turning heads, and he
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: ends up making the roster. So talk about Montori Foster Jr.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: and the ultimate decision of keeping him over some others
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: that they had a little more familiarity with.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Ohio high school substitute teacher. Again, he was a
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: real estate agent, got his real estate license during last
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: season because he thought he'd never perhaps play football again.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: The Seahawks cut him out of training camp early in
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: training camp last summer. He was in a gym in
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Cleveland where he's from, and some guy, just random dude,
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: as he said, walked up to him in the gym
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: like a 24-hour fitness and said, hey, man, I heard
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: you were in an NFL training camp as a receiver.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: I'll throw passes to you if you want to stay sharp.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: He didn't know this guy from anybody. Turned out it
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: was a guy who played high school football in Cleveland
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: 10 years ago. And so that was his training partner
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: all during the Seahawks. So while the Seahawks were marching
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl, Montori Foster was teaching Latin to
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: some junior high school kids at Lakewood St. Ed High
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: School in Cleveland and catching passes from some random dude
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: at a 24-hour fitness gym. And then they called him
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: back and asked him to be on the practice squad
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: at the end of December. He was on the practice
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: squad through the Super Bowl. They put him into a
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: futures contract, which put him on the off-season roster, and
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: he just kept making plays. And one-handed catches, turning around
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: starting corners in training camp, Eventually, Sam Darnold started throwing
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: him in the first-team offense, and he had to make
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: the team. Everybody on the roster saw what he was
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: doing all training camp. It would have been a terrible
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: message for productivity and doing everything that you ask and
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: then not make it. Cody White seems like the one
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: who was the odd man out. Once Jake Bobo got
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: on injured reserve at Tennessee's joint practice with a knee injury,
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: that really cemented Foster's spot to me. And then Cody
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: White agreed to do Trevon Diggs. I'll get cut and
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: sign as a free agent on the practice squad deal.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that's what's going to happen today with White.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: And he's been around, of course, now for three or
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: four years. So that also got a spot. When they
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: cut Emmanuel Henderson, they cut four of their eight rookie
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: draft picks, by the way, which is a lot, but
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: tells you what a Super Bowl roster is instead of
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: all the other years. So once they cut Henderson... That's
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: how Foster was indeed on the roster. I talked to
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: him at Kansas City Friday night, and he was nervous.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: He didn't think he played well in the Chiefs game,
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: and he didn't think he was ending his preseason well.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: And I was trying to tell him, no, you're on
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: the team. And he was looking at me like, don't
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: say that, man. It was a really stressful weekend for him.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: He smiled yesterday when I saw him, and he was
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: on the practice field. Big, big day for him.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I have a feeling Hard Knock's going to
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: cover that storyline on Tuesday.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: The cameras, they were all over him yesterday when he
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: walked on the field and talking to Cooper Cup. Yeah,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: that'll be featured tomorrow night.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: All right, so much ground to cover, but I do
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: want to mention at least two things from the game
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: on Friday. One, Hey, I like what I saw out
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: of Jalen Milrow on Friday night. He played against the
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: first string, he played against the second string, he played
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: against the third string, and he made throws against all
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: three groups for the Kansas City Chiefs defense. So what
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: was the reaction from Mike and company to Jalen Milrow's
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: performance Friday?
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Relief. It was really reassuring to them that, okay, this
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: is why we drafted him. We can build on this.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: We can't build on Tennessee and Dallas, but we can
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: build on this. And he played the whole game. He
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: got to adjust to the ebb and flow of the game.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: His pass out of his own end zone, stepping up
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: against pressure and throwing 40 yards to Cody White was
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: the best throw I've seen him make as a Seahawk
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: in two years. That was exactly what they want out
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: of their quarterback, a decisive, poised, focused throw out of
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: your own end zone, avoiding danger. It was exquisite. And
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: he did a couple of those. and one to Montori Foster,
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: a rapper customer, and one to Henderson on the sideline.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: And it was like a different quarterback. And I think
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: some of it was he was in the flow of
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: the game. He was back at Alabama, right? He hadn't
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: started and played a whole game. Only one other time,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: that was Green Bay last summer. He looked light years
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: ahead of where he was the first two preseason games.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: That was really reassuring for them. So now, okay, where
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: do they go from here? But there's definitely building blocks there.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: All right. And then Jason Myers, we talked about a
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: little bit last week. He misses an extra point, misses
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: a game-winning field goal. What's going on? I mean, I
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: don't like the fact that he was pushing everything to
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: the right and then tried to adjust, obviously, to that
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: on Friday and then hooked a ball. I mean, it
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: looks like he's just not where he needs to be
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: to start the season.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: Well, even the 46-yarder he made in Kansas City veered
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: to the right. It was in the middle of the goalpost,
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: and then it started going off to the right again,
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: and then the last kick looked like it was some
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: kind of boomerang or something of a 90-degree angle to
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: the right. I talked to him out of the locker
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: room in Kansas City late Friday night on his way
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: to the bus. He said, man, I'm looking at film.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to see if there's anything technique-wise. I'm working
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: on it. It happens. Ed does. I mean, kickers miss.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: They don't make every single one of them. He missed, though,
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: five kicks, counting two extra points. He missed five kicks
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: in three preseason games. He only missed seven kicks all
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: last year in 20 games. So it's an abnormality for sure.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: 12th year, 35 years old. The Seahawks say they still
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: profess in him, love him, total faith in him. McDonald's
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: say we still trust him. They, in fact, parked the
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: bus there for the last three plays, the last 115,
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: to take a 52-yard field goal instead of try to
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: drive in and get closer to the goal line because
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: they were settling for the 52-yard kick and thinking Myers
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: would make it. They aren't going to make a change,
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: but it's certainly something to look at because kicking is
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: such a mental thing. It is something to keep an
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: eye on. I will say this. Nobody wrote it or
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: said it. He missed a lot of kicks in training
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: camp in practice. It was a more than usual number.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: So we'll see. If he loses a couple games, of course,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: then it becomes an issue for them to consider. But
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: this team tends to play low scoring because they're defense,
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: low scoring close games, and that's a big deal.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: What do you got on the show today?
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: Well, we're going to play back John Schneider because it's
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: like a meteor strike or a blue moon when he
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: talks publicly to us. So we're going to hear everything
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: he said yesterday and explaining Tara and Arnold and explaining
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: some of the moves he made. You'll hear from Mike McDonald,
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: what he said after the game in Kansas city, not
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: so much about the game, but why he thinks his
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: starters are ready, even though they haven't played since the
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: super bowl, um, Jalen Milrow, we'll talk more about his.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: I'll explain the whole Terry on Arnold long play situation
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: in a longer form than what I just did there.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Okay. All right. Well, that was great. We liked it.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a good breakdown. All right, man. Well, thanks.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: A lot of information. We got a lot of it in,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: not all of it in, but we'll pick it up
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: where we left off tomorrow.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: Appreciate it, and happy Monday. Thanks.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider. You can follow him at
• 45:35
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• 45:41
  Speaker 1: of the Seattle Seahawks, and he joins us nearly every
• 45:44
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• 45:50
  Speaker 1: before Hugh Millen joins us at 8 o'clock to talk
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: some more Seahawks football, get his response to everything. It's
• 45:56
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• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Right now, the ABCs of the EMS feels like this
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: is the slot for our daily Mariner segment. And that
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: is certainly a big topic here this morning after the
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: crap weekend, uh, in Toronto may have, uh, doomed the team, uh,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: for the season, still a month to go. Uh, the
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: schedule does get lighter, but, um, hard to explain why
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: the team played so poorly this weekend with so much
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: at stake. Um, I mean, that should have been the
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: best effort performance that we've seen all season long. And instead,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: it was the flattest, grossest we've seen all season long.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: And that is a problem.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very big problem. Very disappointing.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: It was, you went into that weekend having really high
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: expectations coming off of how they've played and what we've
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: been seeing. And then to do that, to just do,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: to make it so awful. I mean, at least win
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: a damn game.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at least win a damn game. At least in
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: the middle of a game, don't act scared and then
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: forget that there are runners on the base paths.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Edward.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: That would help you win a damn game.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: We left off with a letter J. J is for JP.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: And I get that JP is well-liked in this organization,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: and he certainly earned that. As you know, I've had
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: problems with JP all season long. And I realize that
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: he probably has to play shortstop for us right now
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: without Colt Emerson. I suppose you could put Brock Rodden
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: in there. But man, all of my criticisms have been
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: brought to life here in the last week or so.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: The range that he showed on that ground ball by
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Vladimir Guerrero that gave up the third run yesterday. And
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: it just does feel like this team, once it's down 3-2,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: They fight when they're down two. Bloop and a blast away.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Once they're down three, it feels like it's over every
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: single time.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, every time something happens, they have this look like, well,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: darn it.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Well, you give up that third run, and you can
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: even see the look on Logan's face. And Logan's as
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: good a teammate as you're ever going to find. Just like, really?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: You can't get to that ball? I'm going to tell you,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: every single shortstop, starting shortstop in Major League Baseball gets
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: to that ball. And ours doesn't.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Hmm. That's a problem.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: On top of it, he can't hit. He's got a
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: 670 OPS right now, and if not for those 10
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: home runs, which everybody bragged about at the time, that
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: was not a good thing. I tried warning you. Him
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: hitting home runs early in the season was not a
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: good thing for J.P. Crawford because that's not his game.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: And he swings for the fences whenever he feels like
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: there's an opportunity. There was a moment on Saturday in
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: the seventh inning when you are down one, and okay,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: you're down one. You're a home run away. 2-0, he
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: swings at a ball that is way inside. Take your walk.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: That's what you're here for. You take your walk. Randy
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Rosarino bats in that inning, and there's a guy that
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: has come through with a long ball. And instead, we're
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: going to try to hit the ball out on 2-0
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: swing at a pitch that nearly hits us in the wrist,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: and then you end up striking out before the at-bat
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: comes to a close. It's a selfish decision. And I
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: know he's really well-liked, and I know he carries a
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: lot of leadership skills, but that's not leadership right there.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Going outside of what you are To try to prove
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: that you can be the hero every single time you
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: want to try to be the hero. Just do your job.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Get on base. And he strikes out. I think it
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: was the epitome of everything that's frustrated me about J.P.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Crawford this season. I thought it was a bad weekend
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: from him. It was a bad weekend from nearly everyone.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: not just picking on him, but it certainly was on
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: display this weekend why he probably shouldn't have been our
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: shortstop this year.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, we've, we had this conversation before Colt
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Emerson came in and then when he moved to third,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: we were like, okay, if he's going to move to third,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: we'll try it. And he was decent. I mean, he
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: wasn't terrible at third. He's better at third than he
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: is at shortstop. That's for sure. And it's not a
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: very good feeling to think that if we were to
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: go into the playoffs with him at shortstop, I mean,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if we're going to make the playoffs,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: but I'm just saying, if that's your shortstop, you don't
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: have a lot of confidence in that.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: K is for Cade. I think Cade's looked... I think
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: it's actually a real impressive way that he started his career,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: because I'm going to tell you right now, he's not
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: been locked in in either of his games. That guy
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: is all about control and command. He can throw it
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: wherever he wants to throw it. Any pitch... That's what
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: he did in AA Arkansas this year. And you are
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: seeing him miss a lot. And yet he's still gotten
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: very good results. And he deserved better in both of
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: his starts than what he got. First from his manager
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: in game number one and then from Bazzardo in game
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: number two. But considering that he's not even hitting his spots,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: which is his forte, and he's still, you know, teams
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: are not able really to score on him. I guess
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: they did in the first game. Again, we won't get
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: into that. But I'm impressed with what I've seen out
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: of Kate Anderson to be able to battle that way
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: with your B stuff. That's not his A stuff. I
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: think that we have a really bright future with Kate Anderson.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, he definitely has left a pleasant feeling.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Taste in your mouth?
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pleasant taste. That sounds bad.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Pleasant feeling, though.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of promise with that kid,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: and I'm excited that we're getting to see him already.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Finally, L is for Lazaro, who also comes to the
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: major leagues with a lot of promise. Lazaro Montes called
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: up yesterday. He's hit 38 home runs in the minor
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: leagues this year. Went to Tacoma. His pace really didn't
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: drop off in terms of his home run pace. He
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: strikes out a lot. He struck out a lot in
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: the minor leagues, and that is worrisome to have a 30%
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: strikeout rate in the minors, and now you're getting ready
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: to face major league pitching, major league scouting. they're going
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: to expose everything you're not good at. That's what the
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Major League does. But at this point, yes, please, roll
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: the dice on this guy. I've seen a few Tacoma
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Rainiers games, and I've watched him play side-by-side with Arroyo,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: and I realize that a lot of people believe that
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Michael Arroyo, because he puts the ball in play more,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: might be the better option here. To me, I think
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Laz Montez, the damage that he inflicts, is the right
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: choice here over Arroyo. He looks to me... like the
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: guy that is thirsting to get on a major league
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: field more so than what Michael Arroyo does. So I
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: think this is the right decision. And this guy, man,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: he can damage a baseball and he actually can make
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: some pretty good plays in the outfield as well. I
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: stand to make a couple of bad plays too, but
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: he's better out there than I thought that he was
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: going to be. And also just, I mean, he's as
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: good a personality and characters you're ever going to find.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: So this is exciting. And I know there was a
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: little confusion earlier when I was doing this story in
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the headlines, but he will be a September call-up. He
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: will not play tonight against Tolley and the Red Sox,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: but should be available to Dan on Tuesday. Yeah.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: And I'm excited to see him. And I mean, Five
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Iron pointed out this weekend, well, Hollander said, can't hit
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: 40 home runs or, you know, if he's hitting 40
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: home runs, he better be up there. Up with the
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: big guys, and here he will be to hopefully hit
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: his 39th and 40th.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: He said, if it's 40 home runs, I promise you
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: some will be as a mariner. So, you took your
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: sweet time. Weren't many grains of sand left in that hourglass,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: but you got him here in time. So, at 38. So,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, he's going to strike out
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: a lot, but. if he strikes out three times a
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: game and does damage and one of his four at bats,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: that's a better ratio than we've got with most of
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: the guys in this lineup right now.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Coming up next on the program, uh, Aaron Donald is
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: back in our lives. What does it mean for the
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: NFC West race? We'll talk about it on sports radio,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: 93.3 KJR FM. Cause if the wife wasn't happy, it
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: wasn't going to get done. Right.
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: Um, I got to make sure that the household was, good,
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: the kid was okay with it all, you know, and
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: then having them hard conversations, figuring things out, what I
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: wanted to do, if I was to do it, how
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: would we do it, so, and my wife was, you know,
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: on board, you know, she said, if you want to
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: do this, she's with me 100%, and there were days
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: when I was like, I don't know, she was like, Aaron,
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: she talked to me enough to be like, you want
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: to do this, don't make no decisions faster than what
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: you need to make a decision, take your time, and,
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: you know, she played a huge part of you know,
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: me figuring this out through this because it really wasn't
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: an easy decision.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I think your wife ought to just butt out.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: I liked it better when she didn't let you leave
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: the house.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Why don't she just keep her opinions to herself?
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Since when do marriages require two people to come to
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: an agreement?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate encouragement from a loved one.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Usually it should be one person saying, no, this is
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: how we're doing it. And the other person has to acquiesce.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Where do you get off, lady?
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Why is it all of a sudden something where your
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: opinion matters?
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, I guess Aaron Donald is just his wife's puppet.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, I guess.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, she snaps. You jump.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: I hate marriages like that.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: She says jump.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: For compromise and support. Disgusting.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: She probably yells at you for not stacking the dishwasher
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: the right way.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you should stay home and work on that.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I only work on that.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Shirking your responsibilities, huh?
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  Speaker 1: National Football League season. Let me tell you a little
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  Speaker 1: story about a guy by the name of Doug Wilfong. Okay.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: A guy by the name of Doug Wilfong, who I
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: grew up with. And he was one of those, he
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: was like me. He grew up fast. Like he had
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: like a beard in the seventh grade. By the time
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: he was a freshman in high school, he was like
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: the number one pitcher. He was a year older than me.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: He was the number one pitcher on our varsity team.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: That's how advanced that he was. And it was a
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: pretty good team too. And so we did not have
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Legion baseball set at that point. in our tiny little town.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: So once you were done with Little League there, you
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: had to kind of go to the next town over
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: in order to play Legion baseball. And so that did
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: happen the following year. But for one year, Doug Wilfong
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: didn't have a place to play in the summer. So
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: he recruited all of his older, you know, freshman and
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: high school buddies, Mike McAfee, Of course, everybody knows.
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: Everybody.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Steve Green. Oh, Steve.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: That guy's trouble, by the way.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: So they end up playing Little League when they should
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: not have been playing Little League. And we still had
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: two years to go left in Little League. We were
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: going to go to Legion Ball the next year, but
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: we had one more year. Well, all of a sudden,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: our rival team, because there are two teams, and we
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: had faced the Bulldogs our entire Little League career, right?
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: And so the Bulldogs and us were rivals, but we
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: beat them every time. They had never beaten us. So
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: many close games, so many close games, and they'd never
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: beaten us. We were the Trojans, believe it or not.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Named after the condom, not USC.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Right, obviously.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Teaching kids early education. We'd beaten them every year, and
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: they were running out of time. They knew this was
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: going to be the last year they had a chance
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: to beat us. And they, behind the scenes, under the
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: veil of night, met and hatched this plan that they
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: were going to add every single one of these older
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: kids to their roster.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: How's that allowed?
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Well, it was allowed because they were within the age
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: group and they didn't have another place to play in.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: Town.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: So it was allowed. But the idea was that they
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: would be divvied up. And they all went to the Bulldogs. Now,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: keep in mind, we'd beat them every time, but they
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: would always work close. So all of those players went
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: to the Bulldogs. And so we are going to have
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: to face... the staff ace of our varsity team as
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: eighth graders and seventh graders, because we had a lot
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: of seventh graders on our team at the time. So
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: we were actually two years younger on average than the Bulldogs,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: who had been our rivals forever. And if we didn't
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: go out in the first game of the year and
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: just knock the snot out of Doug Wilfong and the Bulldogs,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: beat them like 15 to 2, and just embarrass them
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: on the field. My point being is that, hey, they
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: had the accomplished team, but our younger kids ended up
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: being the ones that all got drafted in high school.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Our younger guys were the ones that ended up playing
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: in the major leagues, Jason Isringhaus and others, getting going
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: to college. A lot more of our younger kids. And
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: so the point is that we were built better. We
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: actually had better players than what they did. They just
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: had age on their side and hype on their side.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: And so the Rams have added their Doug Wilfong and
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: their Mike McAfee this offseason.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: We know how this is going to go.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: But the better team won again in the rivalry. And
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: so I realize they're the favorites. they should be the favorite.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I don't doubt that Vegas has made the right decision
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: and making them the favorite. Um, but if you want
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: to sleep on the team, that's already won the championship,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: that has been a step ahead of the Rams here
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: in recent months, uh, and is younger and arrived at
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: the Superbowl title prematurely. Um, And they are only going
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: to get better? A lot of the players on this roster?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Go ahead and count the little Seahawks out. Go ahead
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: and do that. The little world champion Seahawks out. Go
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: ahead and do that. Because I know this team's going
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: to be even better than they were a year ago.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: And now the Rams are going to be saddled with,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: you go. I mean, I heard a conversation this morning
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: about how they were going to go undefeated. They were
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: going to run the table.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: No pressure.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so you go ahead. I mean, they
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: still are a quarterback injury away from being brought down
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: a couple of levels. And they're not winning the Super
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Bowl with Ty Simpson at quarterback. I don't care how
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: good Donald and Garrett end up being. So just go
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: ahead and underestimate the team that has already won the
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: world championship. That's fine with a one of the youngest
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: rosters in the entire sport. And a lot of guys
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: that are going to be even better this year than
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: the year before. I'm not predicting right now that the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Seahawks are going to win at all, but for anybody
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: that's dismissing the Seahawks from being able to do that
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: and top the Rams again, go ahead, go ahead and
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: sleep on them. See what happens.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you who's not sleeping on the Seahawks, the Rams.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: That's why they're adding all these people.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: It's a great point.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, you're absolutely right.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, it, The Rams adding all these people doesn't
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: shake my confidence in my team. Does it mean, do
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: I think the Rams are going to be really good?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Were they really good last year?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: I expect that. Bring it on.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I guess my point is, Aaron Donald's Doug Wilfong, and
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: he didn't grow another inch after his freshman year.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: So there you go.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: And I don't think Donald's got a growth spurt in him.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: Nope.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: He ain't growing an inch this year.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I hate these back. Hugh Mellon's next. Sports Radio 93.3 KJRF.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Season will get underway in nine days, and then we
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: will do a Monday morning quarterback like you won't believe
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: on a Thursday. We've never done a Monday morning quarterback
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: on a Thursday. That's in the regular season. We're rebels.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Think about that. I think that week we should do
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Taco Tuesday on a Friday. I think we should do football.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Manic Monday on Thursday. Let's have a manic Thursday. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And then we'll have a football. Instead of a football Friday,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: we do football Tuesday. We just whack it off. Just
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: whack it out right across the board. Shuffle it up.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen is with us. A lot to react to.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Roster stuff. And, of course, the final preseason game of
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: the year, a 9-9 tie with the Kansas City Chiefs
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: on Friday night. Good morning, Hugh. Good morning. Great to
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: be with you. Yeah, excellent to have you, and there
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: is a lot to discuss. Let's start with the game, though.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Let's begin there, and I want to talk about Jalen Milrow.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: He became the story going into the game. He was
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: going to play all four quarters. Maybe I'm crazy, but... Um,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: I thought he looked much better, uh, Friday than I've
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: ever seen him. And he faced all three first string,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: second string, third string defenses, uh, on Friday. He didn't
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: light it up, but, uh, I thought he made a
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: lot of really good throws on Friday.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: What did you see? Oh, I couldn't agree more. I
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: thought he had a big step up. I think it
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: was needed. I've always thought that, uh, probably for any player, uh, um,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: certainly I've thought for quarterbacks, you, you want to look good,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: you know, in the days of four preseason games, you know,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: if you could have two good ones, you want to
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: them to be the first one in the last one,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: the first one, so that you stay in your plans.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: And the last one that, you know, that's the right
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 6: before the cuts or, or, you know, they're solidifying the plants, right?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: If you're going to play poorly, play poorly in the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: middle ones. And, and I think that he, in that
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: light left them with something to feel like, okay, you know,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 6: we're making progress. Compare that to a year ago at
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: Green Bay at three turnovers, really didn't have a lot
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: of big plays. And that was a game where he
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: started and played the entire game. So we have that
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: kind of, you know, capsule to compare it to. And,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: you know, just much better. I mean, he had eight
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: completions with the ball in the air over 10 yards
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: in the preseason. Five of them came against the Chiefs.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: His average depth of target, he pushed the ball down
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: the field. It was 10.4 yards. That's 2.6 above the
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: average with a clean pocket. 12 of 17, 147 yards.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: Play action, 7 of 9, 103 yards. Of those those
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: five completions, we'll get into those in a minute, but
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: 10 or more air yards, four of the five were
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: inside the numbers where you have to do some processing
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: on a couple of occasions. He's getting into as late
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: as his third receiver on that. So I thought his
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: pocket presence and his response to pressure, he stayed in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: the pocket when he should. He had some movement when
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: That was warranted, and so I think you give him
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: a very good grade for just how he handled and
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: navigated the pocket. I thought it was a big step
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: up in his quarterbacking.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he even had a touchdown run, and I know
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: it got brought back by a penalty, but even that
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: was a good decision, good path, made it look easy.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: So even that, I thought, stood out for him, even
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  Speaker 1: though someone committed a penalty on the play.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you watch a lot of tape, and the plays
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: are constructed where you say, hey, this is a read zone,
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  Speaker 6: or we're having a RPO, and what that means is
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  Speaker 6: you tell the offensive line, let's say you're going to
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: run inside zone to the right, just an inside plunge
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  Speaker 6: to the right. But we're not going to block the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: alley area outside of the core of the formation to
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  Speaker 6: the left, Because if they just wash it down, then
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: you say, quarterback, you have to keep it. You're part
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: of the blocking scheme. Or throw it to the RPO.
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  Speaker 6: And a lot of these preseason games I watch, and
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, quarterbacks are making bad decisions. They're not pulling
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: the ball when they need to. So for him to
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: keep it in the alley, you're right. But if I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: can just touch on a few of those passes, I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: think the Cody White the 40-yard post that's probably on
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: everybody's mind, if you remember, in the first quarter from
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  Speaker 6: the end zone. That's a five-man rush. The Chiefs are
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: playing zone behind it. Usually, teams play three deep, three under.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: There's a little bit more of a proliferation of too high.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: Football coaches will know what I'm talking about, where there's
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: a palms coverage, where it's complicated, where the corners, they
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: can either be in the flat depending if there's somebody
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: in the flat or they can back off and race
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: out of there if everything goes vertical. Anyways, because it's
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: just six guys instead of seven in the zone, the
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: defense kind of has to match some guys. So to
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: Milrow's left, he's got Montori Foster going on a deep
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: over-the-ball sit-down. That eats up the safety to his left,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: Milrow's left. So now he's looking at Cody White and
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: he's got to beat the corner in the state. to
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: his right. But in the covers that I described, and
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: there's a purpose to it, that backside corner can fall off.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: So as Milrow is looking to his right and he's saying, oh,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: I like how he beat that safety. Let me flatten
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: the ball away from him. And that would be the
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: perfect angle. No, no, no, not That backside corner from
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  Speaker 6: the other side could fall into the play. So there's
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: more of a precise location that he had to put
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: that ball. He put it there, and he'd get 40 yards.
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  Speaker 6: You know, he comes back, and he hits Elijah Arroyo
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  Speaker 6: on a glance route from under center, play action. He
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: goes to his right five steps. Now, the ball was
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: on the minus 44-yard line, the Seahawks 44-yard line. He
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  Speaker 6: ends up getting 24 yards. because he has this footwork
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: where he stops, he doesn't take a hitch, he's perfectly balanced,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: he takes no steps in his throw, he gets the
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  Speaker 6: ball on Arroyo early. The ball is caught at the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 6: opposite 41-yard line, and because the timing was right, because
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: his feet were right, now the nickel that comes at
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: Arroyo is just a little later, there's a little bit
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: more time for Arroyo to sidestep him, make him miss,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: so he catches at the 41, he doesn't get tackled
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  Speaker 6: to the 31. So if, if Milrow would have got
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  Speaker 6: the completion, had his feet been a little bit off
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  Speaker 6: and he was a little late, but he gets 10
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  Speaker 6: more yards on the completion because a Royer is able
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  Speaker 6: to make a guy miss because the ball's on him
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  Speaker 6: quickly on the Montori Foster, um, uh, a dig route.
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  Speaker 6: The anticipation he had, he had the left tackle, right tackle,
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  Speaker 6: and the right guard get walked back into his pocket.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 6: He just stands there impervious to it, throws an anticipatory
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: play in between what's called the hook defenders. Think of
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  Speaker 6: like the second baseman and the shortstop. Now, they're a
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  Speaker 6: lot tighter, but as you come into the window in
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  Speaker 6: between them, You've got to turn that ball loose so
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: his anticipation was better than what we've seen. Two more.
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  Speaker 6: He throws to Henderson on a dig. This is cover zero.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: There's no safety, right? Now, credit the Seahawks. They did
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  Speaker 6: get a hat on a hat. They had six guys
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  Speaker 6: to block, and all six of them– pick somebody up,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: but there's a lot of things closing in on him.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: So he makes it, as a right-handed quarterback, he closes
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: his hip and goes to his left. If you freeze
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: the tape right there, the defense is well on the
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: path to winning the play. That's like the pitcher being
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: in an 0-2 count. At this point, this is going
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: to be hard. But he takes a couple steps to
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  Speaker 6: his left, and then he flips his hips around, gets
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: back into the throwing position for a right-handed quarterback with
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  Speaker 6: a guy bearing down right in his face. He throws
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: this in route to Henderson, and Henderson makes it. Now,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 6: the ball was a little high. Henderson makes a great
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 6: play on the ball, catches it, declined the penalty, get
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: 26-yard gain down to the one-yard final one. he goes
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: play action under center to his left. Now he's got
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 6: his turn. Because he's going to his left as a
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: right-hand quarterback, he turns his back to the defense.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: It's cover one. It's man-to-man.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: And there's a slot shake route. A shake route is
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 6: a post corner. From the left side, he's going to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: go into the post, then break out back to the corner,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 6: man-to-man press. So he has to hold the ball.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: A little longer.
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  Speaker 6: It's not late. It's not really early, but it's not late. Um,
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  Speaker 6: but because he had to hold the ball, the center
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: eventually takes an L the nose tackles coming right, bearing
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  Speaker 6: right at him and gave him a nice little rib
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: shot after he threw it. But he throws a, uh,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 6: on man coverage, uh, you know, got to keep a
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 6: guy on the move over to the left sideline. That's
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  Speaker 6: the one that was outside the numbers. All the other
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: four were inside the numbers. And, um, and, and, you know, not,
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  Speaker 6: not a perfect pass. Uh, I grade accuracy on a
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  Speaker 6: scale of zero to five with five being like, like
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  Speaker 6: Dinner plate accuracy hit a target the size of a
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  Speaker 6: dinner plate. I wouldn't give it a five. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 6: a four, but it was enough. And it was damn impressive.
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  Speaker 6: And what did I have?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: The air yards.
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  Speaker 6: 26 air yards on a 30-yard completion with a nose
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: tackle bearing down on you. So very impressive plays. really
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  Speaker 6: all the way around. So, you know, big step forward
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  Speaker 6: for the third string quarterback. Yeah, just like poised. Like
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  Speaker 6: he didn't seem rattled in the pocket and he just
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  Speaker 6: delivered his throws, even on the touchdown. I know it
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: was an easy touchdown to Vanette wide open, but I mean,
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  Speaker 6: a rookie might rush that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But he just seemed to all game
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: long just kind of feel comfortable and relaxed. They say
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: the game slows down for you. And to me, I
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: think the game slowed down for Jalen Melrose this week.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's an excellent observation. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 6: He looked like it felt natural. He had a hook
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: route that I didn't describe out where he smoked it out.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: Was that to Foster, but to his left side where
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: he obviously showed his arm strength that because he doesn't
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: have to, he doesn't have to have a big crow
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: hop and he doesn't need to have his body entirely
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: behind the throw. He can just kind of stand there
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: and then snap his hips and generate a lot of velocity.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: And he smokes a hook route, as I said, in anticipation,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: just everything looked comfortable to him. And I think exactly
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  Speaker 6: what you just said, I'm not sure I can add
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  Speaker 6: to it. He did look very naturally poised, you know,
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  Speaker 6: that touchdown that you You talk about, obviously, when you
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: see a guy wide open like that, that's Brian Flory,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: like you just won. That's an offensive coordinator win against
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: the Spagnolas on the other side, right?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: But when you get a.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: Guy that wide open through the combination of the routes,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: the formations, what have you, guys standing wide open in
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: the end zone, credit the offensive coordinator, which immediately– caused
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: me to think back to the uh the cowboy game
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: on the fourth down down at the one yard line
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: where that i looked at that i called that that's
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: just a mess in fact we talked on monday and
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: uh after that game or whatever the day was after
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: the game and uh you know i just said whoa
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: that that play call uh was that that for a
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 6: new a first-time play caller i'm like because you watch
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: the tape there's nobody open and and and it wasn't
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: really great defense it was just You know, poorly constructed. Anyways,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: for him to get his quarterback a wide-open touchdown like that,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: you got to credit Flory as well. But, yeah, very,
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  Speaker 6: very good showing for– and there were some drops in
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 6: there too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So very good showing for Milrow.
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  Speaker 6: I think the path, if we kind of take the
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: helicopter and raise up and we say, okay, Drew Locke
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: is in his last year in the con of the contract.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: I think what the Seahawks want is for Milrow to
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: be the number two next year. And that, that path
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: was in jeopardy up until Friday night. I feel like
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: they think, okay, maybe we got this thing back on
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: the highway instead of the exit ramp, um, on the plan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, well, 16 to 26, 223 yards, a touchdown, uh,
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  Speaker 1: no interception. So, uh, Nice work for Jalen Milrow. Hugh
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: Millen is with us Monday morning, quarterback session, final preseason
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: game in the books, a 9-9 tie with the Kansas
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: City Chiefs. We're going to get into more of the
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: roster moves later on in the hour, but I want
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: to talk about one other thing from the game itself,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: and that is, do we have a kicker problem? We
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: touched upon it last week. I expressed a little bit
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: of concern, and we didn't see if there was an
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: adjustment made It's that he had been pushing everything to
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: the right, and he decided, here's my adjustment. I'm going
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: to miss to the left. I'm going to hook one
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: grossly to the left. So what are you seeing with
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Jason Myers right now? And with nine days until the
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: first game, can you get this thing fixed in practice
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: in the next week and a half?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think the concern is not nothing. I mean,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: he's a pro. He's been very good. He'll probably get
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 6: it right. But I would be chewing on my nails
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: a little bit harder if this game against the Patriots
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 6: comes down to a needed field goal. I mean, look
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: at the preseason. He had makes of 48 and 46 yards.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: He missed a field goal in every game, 45 in
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: the first one, then 44, then 52 that would have
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 6: won it the other night. Extra points. Now he missed
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 6: an extra point against the Titans. It was 48 yards
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: due to a penalty. But then how about the other night?
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: Was it fourth quarter and you got a chance to
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: go up 10 to nine? That's a game winning extra point.
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  Speaker 6: And we just We just pull it. I don't even
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: know if it's short enough to be called a hook.
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  Speaker 6: You know, he just pulled it left. But I'm concerned
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 6: because kickers, by default, they're just emotional butterflies.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm always, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Concerned how the wind's going to catch them in, in
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  Speaker 6: some regard emotionally. And, you know, I'd say ball flight
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  Speaker 6: wise too, you know, having held just kind of watching
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 6: how these guys, you know, well, I helped for some
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 6: good ones. Jeff Jagger at Washington, Jason Elam at the
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: Broncos was a, you know, multiple Pro Bowl type player
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: and watching other guys and sitting in special teams meetings
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: and what have you. And it's my belief that the
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: most reliable ball flight is a slight draw. This should
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: surprise nobody. Think about, you know, if you can get
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: a golfer who can get a nice high draw like
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: a Greg Norman, maybe I'm dating myself on that one,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: but a high draw off the leg of a kicker
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 6: you know, just kind of starts right center and then pulls, uh, uh, just,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: just draws left. I mean, that's what Harrison Bucker, that's
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: exact ball flight that Harrison Bucker had on his, uh,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: on his 69 yard field goal last weekend.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Not 59, 69.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 6: And, and so, so I think it's more reliable. It
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: gives you best distance. Um, and, and we haven't seen
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: that kind of ball flight. We're seeing like the ball,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: going at the target and then having some weird fade. And,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 6: and it's just, those are harder to, to predict. Um,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 6: now he's had pushes and low pushes and high pushes and, and, and, uh,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: you know, fades as I'm describing. So he had all
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: kinds of wonky ball flight. This preseason. Now you tell me, I'm, I'm,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: I'm happy to play by any rules you want. If
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 6: you say the rules are, we don't care anything about preseason.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm not going to push back.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Then, then my analysis is who cares what
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: he did.
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  Speaker 6: He's ready to go win the game winner with five
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: seconds to go from 49 yards against the Patriots, obviously,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: because he, because he was a good kicker last season.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: That's a fair take.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not gonna, you know, I don't feel strongly about this, but,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 6: but I, I, I'm kind of surprised a kicker this good.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: The Seahawks go 0-2-1 in the preseason. You could easily argue,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 6: just say, if we kick the ball right, they're 2-1.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: Until he makes a couple field goals, get back in
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 6: a groove, and until he makes somewhat of a pressure kick,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: doesn't have to be the game winner with three seconds
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: to go. It could be 12 minutes to go in
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: the fourth quarter when you kind of need it. There's
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: varying levels of need and importance, and.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: So I think he's got to get his mind right. Yeah,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: it's got to be mental. I mean, he's not kicking
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: that way in practice and just saying, you know, I've
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: done enough today. I know I can't make a field goal,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to go home. You know that he's
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: getting the results he wants during practice, and then we've
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: gotten into the game so far this year, and they're
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: just preseason games. Not a lot of pressure in these games.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: And yet he's missing, and he's missing badly. And yeah,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: I do register it as a concern. Well, I mean,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: come on. It's 9-9, and you score a touchdown. You say, okay,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: we kicked this extra point. The way defense is playing,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: this is a game-winning extra point. And we're going to
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: win this thing 10-9. We're going to go, yay, we're
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: going to get on the plane and fly back, and
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: then we kind of feel a little better about ourselves.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: And then you just pull it. So at any event,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: I think it's a concern more than nothing.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: And then you tell me how much we could be concerned,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: and I'll agree with you.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: Hugh Mellon is with us. Monday morning quarterback session. A
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: lot to discuss today. Certainly we've got the game. Certainly
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: we've got roster decisions. And we kind of have a
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: combination of the both as well. So we'll continue our
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: conversation next on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. All right, 9
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: o'clock hour. It is Monday Morning Quarterback here on Sports
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Chuck Ashley with you. And there
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: is no Monday Morning Quarterback without the quarterback. Hugh Millen
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: is with us as well. One more segment today. Two
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: hours Monday Morning Quarterback during the course of the regular season.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: But we'll keep Hugh for one more segment because we've
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: got a lot of things to analyze. Of course, the
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: Seahawks wrapping up the preseason on Friday night with a
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: 9-9 tie. We have discussed Jalen Milrow and how good
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: he looked. We've discussed Jason Myers and how concern has
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: crept into our thoughts about him. But what I wanted
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: to talk about in this segment. is the 53-man roster. So, Hugh,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: let's see if we can pull this off. Let's go
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: through the whole roster, but I'm going to go a
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: position group at a time, and then we'll point out
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: something that stands out to you about each position group.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: So Sam Darnold, obviously, Drew Locke, your second stringer, and
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: Jalen Milrow makes the team as the third stringer, and
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: you've got to feel a lot better about Jalen after
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: Friday night. You really do.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 6: I think he made a big step up in terms
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 6: of how he handled the pocket, was willing to look
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: down the field and find some big plays after having
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 6: turned down a number of them in the first couple
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 6: of weeks. Four out of five were between the numbers
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 6: of his big plays, so there's a little bit more
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: processing involved in the middle of the field. You feel
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: good about him. Now, we have not seen them use
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 6: some kind of package, some Taysom Hill package. If there
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: was a thought about that, maybe they'll unveil it under
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: the cloak of secrecy, but we have not seen anything
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: that would suggest that that's a plan for them.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: No one's ever abandoned anything faster than Mike McDonald to
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: abandon the Jalen Milrow package plan.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: The speed option to the To the Buccaneer sideline and
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: the errant pitch.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, okay, I've seen enough. That's a hard no.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: He just decided I'm never doing that again for the
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: rest of the year. All right, running back room. We'll
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: put fullback Brady Russell in this room, but only three
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: running backs, George Helani, Chadarian Price, Emmanuel Wilson. That number
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't bother you. What does, if anything, about the running
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: back room?
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: want to see if Emmanuel Wilson can truly be a,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: you know, maybe a five, six carry guy per game
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: and say, okay, that's a legit number two. I think
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: that's in question. The, the, the status to Darian parts.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: The first thing I did when I saw it, well,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: first of all, when he got drafted, remember he, his
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: combine weight was 10 pounds below his, his listed weight
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: at Notre Dame, exactly 10 pounds. And, And that's something
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: we discussed on draft night. Then I saw him on
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: training camp. I thought his legs were skinny. I thought
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: his legs looked more like a wide receiver legs than
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: they look like running back legs to me. He didn't
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: have a big workload at Notre Dame because of Jeremiah Love.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 6: And so I feel like the Seahawks are expecting a
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: lot from him. I'm holding my breath. I think he's
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: a talented guy. You know, his vision, his acceleration. There's
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: a reason his talent put him, you know, late first round.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 6: I think that's about right. But he's got big shoes
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: to fill. And until Charbonnet's there, I think, you know, yeah,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: running back's a concern.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And until you see Price, I'd just
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: like to see him play. But we're going to have
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: to wait. Hang on to the football, right? Yeah.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: We're going to have to wait until next Wednesday to
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: see that. All right, wide receivers, they kept five. JSN,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: he made it. If anybody was worried, he made the team.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Rashid Shaheed, Cooper Cupp, Torrey Horton, and then Montori Foster Jr.,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: the feel-good story of camp, has made the wide receiver room.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: Well, he's shown himself as a blocker. I know there's
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: a special teams contribution that they expect of him as well,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: and and there's a certain polish to him, acceleration, tracking
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: the ball, making the catches, the tough contested catches, so
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 6: he benefited from Bobo, but you know what? Sometimes that's
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 6: how the NFL works, so that's a feel-good story. Torrey Horton,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: this was a problem at Colorado State, feeling a little
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: bit uneasy about that, a little bit impatient with the
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 6: Torrey Horton situation, and then Rashid Shaheed, you paid him
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: $ 17 million when you wouldn't pay Kenneth Walker $ 14 million.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: That tells you that you better expect something from this guy. Arguably,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: I'll put it down, the best return guy in the
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: planet when you consider kickoff and punt abilities. But you
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: still need more. Hopefully he was acquired on November 4th
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 6: of last year. There wasn't the opportunity to gain that cohesion.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: And so hopefully this offseason for a quarterback, if you
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 6: learn a guy's pace and how he comes out of
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: the route and you learn against air over and over
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: again all through the offseason, then in a game when
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 6: your vision is blocked momentarily, You're just like, hey, I
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 6: know where that spot is. I don't see Rashid here
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: for half a second, but I can still cut the
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 6: ball loose because I know where he's going to be.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: And then you can be accurate because you have that familiarity.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: Hopefully they acquired that type of of uh rapport in
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 6: this offseason because they're going to need shaheed to do
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 6: more as a wide receiver than he did for the
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: seahawks last year.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: Uh tight end room uh sauber eric sauber the nick
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: collar up And then you have the two guys we
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: expect to get a lot of playing time. Elijah Arroyo,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: who surprisingly played a lot. I thought he was going
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: to get bubble-wrapped for at least game number three, but
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: he was back out there on the field again. So
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that suggests when you sat pretty
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: much every other first and second stringer. for that game
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: on Friday. And then A.J. Barner, who we've not seen
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: at all in the preseason. That's how much they've elevated
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: him as a clear-cut, number one, maybe on the verge
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: of stardom type tight end. So, tight end room, you've
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: got to feel pretty good about this group. Yeah, I
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: love A.J.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: Barner.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: He's a guy who's emerging as a.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 6: Top 10 tight end in the league. I don't want
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: to say top five, but that's a possibility. I don't
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: want to put a lid on him, but the combination
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: of what he brings to you. He's a tall, big guy,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 6: so I think he's a nice target. He's gaining experience there.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 6: He's confident. His blocking is more than solid. Saubert is
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 6: a real blocking special, so you'll like that. Regarding Arroyo,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: my theory, I could just say this. If I was
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: in a high-position position with the Seahawks, the head coach
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 6: or the offensive coordinator, I'd say, listen, your ass is
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 6: playing against the Kansas city chiefs. And you're going to
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: show us that you can block that you, that you're
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: going to get down and dirty. You're going to widen
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 6: your base. You're going to drop your ass. You're going
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 6: to get nasty with the head up and you're going
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 6: to use that athleticism to do something more than run
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 6: down the field, looking pretty for catches, because if you
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: can't block, you can't play. And so, yeah, your ass
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 6: is going to play every damn fricking down. until we
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 6: get the urgency that we need to have the blocking.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 6: You're too damn talented of an athlete. You are too
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 6: good to lay that crap on the tape like you've
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 6: been doing. Now, it's improved. The Cowboy game was atrocious.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 6: But in any event, you ask why was he playing?
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 6: That would be my speculation. Yeah, great stuff.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Offensive line, 10 guys. Anthony, you've got your first teamer.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: You've got Sundell at center, you're going to have Zabel
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: at left guard, you're going to have Cross at left tackle, A.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: Blukas at right tackle, and Anthony Bradford at right guard,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: and then a complete backup group to those guys with
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: Josh Jones and Cable Dew at the tackles, and Stevens
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: and Haynes at the guard, and Oluwatimi at the center.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: What stands out about this group?
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Josh Jones I don't think played as well
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 6: this summer as he did last year, but he's proved
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: himself as a swing tackle. That's important. I think that
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: the Seahawks would have kept Mason Richman. He's kind of
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 6: tall for a guard, so he would have projected to
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: be an all-purpose guy, but you lost him in the
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: game at Tennessee. You've had Christian Haynes got more snaps
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 6: at left guard, so he's going to be kind of
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 6: a swing guard. Bo Stevens showed some nice things, I
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 6: think worthy of the fifth-round pick, and you traded up
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 6: to get him. Bryce Cabledew, I think, has shown an improvement,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 6: a sixth-round pick in 2025. He probably benefits from Mason
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: Richman being hurt. That would be my speculation. So I
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: think this is an offensive line that obviously to have
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 6: them all back and as a unit, you feel pretty
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: good about the way this unit played at the end.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 6: I don't think they're among the very best, but they've
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: come a long way from even midseason a year ago.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, another group I can't wait to see play.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: They didn't play at all. None of the starters on
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: the offensive line played at all. in the preseason, so
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: looking forward to that next Wednesday. Defensive line room's got
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: to be the best room on the entire roster. I mean,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: when you consider Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy and then
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: the veteran Jaron Reed, I think Brandon Peely is always
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: good for a couple good plays here and there. Mike
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: Morris might be the question mark, but Riley Mills may
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: have won the award this uh, Hugh in 2026 for
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: the talk of camp. I mean, yes, to a man,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: they can't stop talking about Riley mills. So certainly looking
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: forward to seeing what he could do this year. Yeah.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 6: Those interior guys. Uh, I think you summarized it well. Um,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 6: you know, on, on balance, the, the defensive line, when
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: you throw in the edge guys, um, it's relatively veteran
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 6: Jaron Reed would fall in into that, but, um, it's
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 6: nice to get the youth in Riley mills. He's a
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: fifth round pick and, um, You know, he'd have probably
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 6: been a second rounder had he not hurt his knee.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: He was that good playing for Notre Dame and just
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: watching the tape.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: And you're right.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 6: They're talking about him. I'm sure that the confidence that
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 6: he has in himself and the teammates and staff were
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: buoyed by his sack where he just, you know, just
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 6: trucked the right guard of the Patriots, I believe it was,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 6: and gets a sack in the Super Bowl. So I
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 6: think the depth is the most important. I think if
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 6: you say, tell me a position group you'd want to
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: have the most depth, I would say defensive line, because
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: very simple. Defensive guys get more tired than offensive guys.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 6: They have to chase the ball. Big guys get more
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: tired than small guys.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: That's obvious.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 6: So having a guy like Mills as a second stringer,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: excited to see what he can bring. I think he's
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: going to be very impactful.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: You know, when the starting defensive lineman and the starting
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman get interviewed all camp long and they all
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: get asked that same question, who's standing out to you?
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: I think every single one of them, both offensive lineman
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: and defensive lineman said Riley Mills. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: And, and we were at practice and, and he made
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 6: that kind of imprint as did, uh, But yeah, Riley Mills,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 6: of all the guys that you'd say are relatively unproven,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: he showed the most consistently.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Now, they're lumping all of these guys at linebackers. There
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: are obviously some edge guys who are kind of defensive
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: ends slash linebackers. And then you have your interior inside
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: linebackers as well, but I'll just go through the whole group. Fowler,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: Dante Fowler Jr., Derek Hall, Ernest Jones, Tyrese Knight, Demarcus Lawrence,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: Uchenna Nwosu, Patrick O'Connell, Connor O'Toole, Chaz Surratt, and Drake
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Thomas all making the roster. Pretty good group there. What
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: stands out to you?
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 6: Well, I think they're very deep at inside linebacker, off-ball linebacker.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: I'm impressed with Patrick O'Connell. Tyrese Knight was just a
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: beast in the Cowboy game so much that Mike McDonald
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 6: didn't want to see him anymore after 10 tackles in
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 6: that opener. Even Chaz Surratt as an off-ball linebacker, weak
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: side linebacker.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Chris Paul.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: uh, you know, I mean, he, he, he could have
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: made the team a lot of teams. So, so I
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 6: think they're very deep. I kind of, you, you described
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: accurately that, that they're all lumped together. I view them
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 6: as off ball linebackers and edge. So I just, that
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 6: those were, that's my thought on the off ball guys.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: Very deep.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: The edge guys are deep, but they're age they're old,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 6: you know, uh, I don't want to use old, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 6: They're seasoned. How about that? A new, new Oso Dante Fowler. We,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 6: we just don't know much. That could be, that could
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 6: really pop or that could be just a, uh, you know,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 6: that could be a want, want, you know? So, so I,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 6: I have a lot of questions about him, Derek Hall.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 6: We expect him to be on the incline to Marcus Lawrence.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 6: You just hope that he's, he, uh, he maintains what
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 6: he had from a year ago. So that's the one,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: you know, now Connor O'Toole has impressed, you know, he
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 6: sets a, a mean edge on the end on running downs,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 6: you know, first and second down, bring him in to
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 6: provide some depth and a rotation there. So I think
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 6: you feel good about it. You just hope that age,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 6: you know, kind of bypasses that room, you know, and just,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 6: Bait some lamb's blood on the door and let father
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 6: time just keep on walking by these guys so we
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 6: can get what we got out of them a year ago.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: In talking to Uchenna, I mean, this was like the
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: first time in three years that he didn't spend the
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: entire offseason rehabbing. Maybe we'll see a better version of
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: him this upcoming year. All right, cornerbacks. This is interesting.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: You keep only five. One of them is Julian Neal,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: who might not be healthy enough to start the season.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: Another one is Avery Smith, who they just acquired this offseason.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: Another is Nehemiah Pritchett, who might have been as criticized
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: as anybody. in training camp and in the preseason. And
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: then you've got Devin Witherspoon with his new money, and
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: then Josh Jobe, the forgotten one. I mean, we haven't
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: even really discussed Josh Jobe much, but that's your cornerback
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: room right now. Maybe the most concerning group in the
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: entire roster. Yeah, I think it.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 6: Was the most shallow at the beginning of training camp.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 6: I think all the activities surrounding it with Diggs and
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: Terry and Arnold and the trade for Avery Smith kind
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: of confirms that Mike McDonald and John Snyder were thinking
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 6: the same way. Pritchett, I think, is an important figure here.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 6: He took the first rep with the starters in training camp.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 6: And there was a lot of feeling about– remember, he
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 6: was a fifth-rounder from 2024 coming out of Auburn. And
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 6: there was a thought, okay, he needs to get more physical.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 6: He really dedicated himself to the weight room. That impressed
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 6: folks out there. And you say, okay, generally improved play
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 6: comes with that. But then there was kind of a
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 6: low-lens performance. I think he kind of did a little
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 6: bit of a boomerang and came back and has played
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 6: this last week or 10 days of camp. I think
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 6: he's played better. So– That's kind of been a good, bad,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 6: good impression of him. Witherspoon, what needs to be said,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 6: not much. He's one of the best players in the
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 6: NFL at his position, and he's arguably the emotional leader
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 6: of the team. Josh Jobe, I think, is just kind
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 6: of solid, a guy that a good quarterback will think, hey,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 6: I can go after 29. that'll be a game plan
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 6: for guys. So we'll see how he responds there. So
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 6: I think the cornerback position, you could just say, is
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 6: kind of almost in flux would be a way to
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 6: describe it. But there's some star power with Witherspoon and
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 6: some young guys that may come on. Haven't seen anything
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: from Julian Neal, third-round pick. Shaquille O'Neal. Shaquille O'Neal.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: Shaq Griffin. Shaq Griffin. You know, when you start to
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: say Shaquille, you know, just O'Neal comes in.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. It does.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: It really does.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 6: Shaq Griffin was a third rounder and started and played
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 6: very well as a rookie. So maybe Julian Neal is
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 6: hiding something from us that he'll pop maybe, you know,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 6: midseason and beyond. But at this point, you just kind
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 6: of feel like there's too much activity, too many spinning
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 6: plates to feel great about it. But lost in all this,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 6: is remember how talent this damn team is. I mean, I, I,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 6: I just saw the ESPN, their power rankings that came up.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: That's the front thing on their website. Well, the Rams
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 6: are number one and the power rankings, the Seahawks are
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 6: number two. You know, it's not surprising. So, so they're the,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 6: all of these concerns we talk about, we got to say, well,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 6: concerns within the acknowledgement that it's a damn talented roster.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 6: And so the corners you could, fit that description as well.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: Not only do I want to see Shaquille O'Neal in
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: pads and a Seahawks helmet, I want to see him
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  Speaker 1: line up, march him on the field, and then he
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  Speaker 1: plays corner of all positions. Oh, corner, yeah. Let's see
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  Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neal play corner.
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  Speaker 6: That wouldn't be where I'd put him. If Myers doesn't
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 6: start making PATs, I want to see if he can kick.
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  Speaker 6: But I'd love to, on the one-yard line, just let
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 6: him play, flex him out like a big tight end,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 6: and that'd be a mighty big tight end, and let
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 6: him go stand in the end zone and just throw
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  Speaker 6: it up. I think he might be able to come
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 6: down with a ball or two, but at any event.
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  Speaker 6: Got big soft hands. Got big soft hands, that guy.
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  Speaker 6: All right, let's talk about the safety room.
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  Speaker 1: You've already expressed maybe your most concern for this group
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: because of the low number. Ty Okada, Julian Levin. Nicky Minori. Yeah, weird.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, Nicky Minori had under 10 snaps as a
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 6: back-end safety. So to me, he's not a safety. You
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 6: call him an outside linebacker, call him a nickel, call
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 6: him the star. There's a lot of things you can
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 6: call him, but you can't call him a back-end safety.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 6: And there's only two of them on the roster now,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 6: Josh Jobe and Ty Okada. And so something will come
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: forth from there unless they feel like, you know, I'm
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 6: looking at these corners. Are, are any of those, could
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: they play safety? I mean, it doesn't jump out at me.
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  Speaker 6: So to me, I feel.
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  Speaker 1: Like even mine, uh, for those listening, not you, but
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: Bud Clark was supposed to be in this group. Yeah, indeed.
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  Speaker 6: And, and, uh, uh, yeah, it's fair to remind everybody. Um,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 6: but Julian love is one of my favorite players on
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 6: the team. Um, you know, he's, he's a leader. He's
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 6: very intelligent. He keeps guys lined up. He's a pro
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 6: in every sense. Ty Okada, really impressed in preseason last year.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 6: He was probably the– you go back to 365 days ago, Chuck,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 6: the guy that was the biggest surprise with Ty Okada.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 6: Maybe him and Drake Thomas, kind of similar categories. But
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 6: for Okada to have made the team, and he felt
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 6: like he was on the back end of the rosters.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 6: I can remember halfway through camp, you'd never even would
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: have projected that he'd make the team. So he makes
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 6: the team and then he ends up starting and then
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 6: he ends up playing damn well. So, so Ty Okada
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 6: has been a great story. You feel solid about him,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 6: but you would have liked Bud Clark to be in there, like,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 6: you know, picking away at him. And then eventually, you know,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 6: somewhere in October, early November, you would have projected Bud
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 6: Clark to overtake Ty Okada just from a talent standpoint.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 6: But you feel solid about Ty Okada. The depth is non-existent.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 6: And so I think there's going to be something is
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 6: going to change between now and even when you play
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: the Patriots there.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: All right. Final three. We did it, by the way. Specialists,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: Michael Dixon, punter, Jason Myers, kicker. And if you were
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: ever going to era, I don't think in all my
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: years doing with you, have you ever done a segment
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: where you ranted about the long snapper? Here's your opportunity
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: to really crush Chris Stoll between your analytical fingers if
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: you'd like to do it.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you keep waiting on that, Chuck. Michael Dixon, I
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 6: don't think I'd trade him for a punter in the league.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 6: I haven't gone to school hard on that, so maybe
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 6: I'm overlooking, but he's just been phenomenal. There's a versatility.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 6: There's an athleticism. He has a very unique style. It's
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 6: the anti-Ray guy style for those– uh, old timers like me, uh,
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 6: you know, Ray guy used to, you know, kick his
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 6: leg in and go way, you know, way above his head,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 6: you know, this beautiful fall through Michael Dixon just kind
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 6: of punches at it. Uh, and, but somehow he's just
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 6: so twitchy that he can get as much distance as
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 6: he wants with, with no follow through. It's a very, uh,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 6: unique style of punting, but he's a hell of an athlete.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 6: He's a hell of a punter. He's got, he's got
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 6: Frisbee punts. He's got all kinds of things to make
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 6: guys miss.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: So, He is elite.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 6: He's an elite punter in the National Football League. Jason Myers,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 6: we think of maybe not elite, but very, very, very good.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 6: He did not have a very, very, very good preseason.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 6: I'm concerned if there is a game winner against the Patriots,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 6: where his head's at. We already went into that in detail.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 6: Won't review that, but arguably the Seahawks are 2-1 in
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 6: the preseason. If Myers has the type of a preseason
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 6: that we would have expected from him and he would
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 6: have expected of himself. So he's got to get things
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 6: turned around and not be losing games.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 5: All right, man.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: Great stuff.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 5: Awesome.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: We did it. We got through the entire roster. Nice work.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: All good.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: Go Hawks. This is fun. All right. We'll talk to
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: you soon, man. Okay. Rock and roll. There he is.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: Hugh Mellon, our QB1 with a special Monday morning quarterback session,
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: not just wrapping up the preseason, but breaking down the
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: entire roster for you in one convenient segment. I didn't
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: even think we could do it, and we pulled it off.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: It was miraculous. By gum. All right, coming up next,
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: that means we do have one more fat segment here
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: this morning to talk about those Mariners again. So we'll
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: get into that next on KJR.