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Beamer Bowl · Boundary Corner Podcast

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And welcome back to the Boundary Corner Podcast, a part of the
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Gentlemen, we have finally made it.
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Week 1, man, Week 1, it's been a long time coming.
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It has been a long time coming and I mean it looks like so much
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going on in the chat tonight I believe.
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Oh man, we already jumping in the chat right?
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Everybody jumping in the chat free Caleb we going to talk
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about that? Oh man, people feeling good
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vibes hey. I got a question right quick
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before we get started on on some serious stuff.
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Yeah. Was that was the intro song
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longer today than normal? Because I feel like I was
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sitting here for like 10 minutes waiting to come in.
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Maybe it was anticipation. Tally is ready for Week 1.
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Tally you're. Ready on that one.
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Use that word ready loosely like that.
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I don't know about ready. We going to see after the night
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how ready I am. So we got a question here
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because my child had baseball practice till 9:00 tonight.
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Yeah, didn't leave the child at the baseball field.
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I not good parenting so. I mean, you can, it's, it's just
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not advised. I mean, CPS might be showing up
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or something at some point, but. They may be, but you know, all
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good Shelton. How?
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How's life, man? It's been good, man.
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We're going to be pretty busy this week.
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Students are back at least. I wouldn't marry tomorrow.
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I know obviously they're coming back all over the country.
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So this is kind of time where, you know, campuses become lively
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again, unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how
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you look at it. But but yeah, it's gonna get,
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we're gonna get going here. Right, Right, right.
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In a few days. Hopefully you don't have a
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Saturday night at Sharky situation.
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Not go there. It's too soon, too soon, right?
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All right, well, real quick, we do.
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We do have a special guest to kick off the show doing things a
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little different than we normally do.
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We're going to start with Know the Enemy because we got a
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special guest. But real quick before we get
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into that some I'm sure some fun back and forth.
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We get in to tell the truth Tuesday as we tell the truth
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about the death chart because it looks like a full of a lot of
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lies in my opinion in stealing that from you Tally and some
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other people that use it. This is like really heartfelt
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because you don't want to see anything bad happen to anybody.
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And if y'all were not aware, have not seen it.
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Gamecocks defensive line coach Trevian Robertson was involved
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in a pretty bad car accident last week.
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I I think he is in stable condition, still in ICU.
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Got a long way to go. But you know, it's a game.
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Something like this happens. It it, it does, the game's still
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going to be played. They going to hit each other,
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they going to try to win it, But you see something like this, you
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know, prayers up for him and his family, entire Gamecocks
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community concerning that because it's a life changing
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event. So again, shout out on that.
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And well, Brian, let's go ahead and bring on our guest this week
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is from the podcast Cox Talking Gamecocks is Tim Cox.
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Tim, Hey, how you doing this evening?
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What's going on fellas? Thanks for having me.
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Anytime, Tim, thanks for joining us.
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So you know, we were chit chatting beforehand and we did
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not get to ask you, you asked us, but now we'll ask you.
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Give us a little bit. How did this start?
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How did your podcast start? Where you from, what you doing?
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And are you going to the game Sunday?
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Yeah, appreciate it. Well, First off, that's a
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beautiful shout out. You had to coach Robertson,
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obviously very tough situation for not just him, but the other
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family that was involved. So yeah, anyone who's out there
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sees Gofundmes definitely support that.
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But yeah, so Cox talking Gamecocks.
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I mean, obviously my name kind of works with the mascot of our
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of our team. So once South Carolina graduated
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in 2015 and you know, that was really my first exposure to like
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big time college athletics and just absolutely fell in love
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with it. I was a sports management major,
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so just like really dove into every aspect of it there.
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And afterwards, after you graduate, it's kind of that one
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tangible thing that you and your buddies can still talk about and
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you can go to the games and just kind of stay connected through.
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So any chance I had, I would talk Gamecock sports to whoever
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would listen. And I think the passion only
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grew the farther I got away from graduation.
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And then, you know, we had our Will Muschamp era, or error, if
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you will, and then brought on Shane Beamer as a head coach.
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It was just on the heels of COVID where, you know, I was
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like, you know what, if we're going to try and shake things up
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here and chase a passion, there's a new chapter in
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Gamecock football, so let's go for it now.
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So I've been doing it for going on Year 5 now, which is crazy,
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but it's been a blast. I'm on Twitter as Cox Gamecocks
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and Instagram Cox talking Gamecocks.
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I do shows twice a week, Mondays and Fridays, and try to keep
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them nice and brief and fun. So yeah, that's, that's me in a
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nutshell. But I've been, I've been looking
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forward to this. When you all reached out, I was
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like, not only am I raring to go for Week 1, but I'm raring to go
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to talk some smack about the Beamer Bowl and I'm ready for
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this one. Man, you brought up the Beamer
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Bowl that that's got me, that's got me having some, some feels.
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All right, First thing we got to talk about what what, what
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colors, what logo is Frank going to have on at this game?
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Y'all are not going to want to hear this.
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He's going to be wearing Gamecocks.
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I, I'm, I'm calling it now. I mean he's been down in
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Columbia multiple times wearing the garnet in black.
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I'm sure you're vomiting in your mouth right now, but I foresee
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him in garnet in black. Maybe he'll put on a a Virginia
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Tech cap, but who knows. It's.
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Going to be like like one of those like parents of players
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that are on both teams. They got like the split.
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Jersey, I could see it. I can see the split or maybe
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just like a nice neutral color like blue or something that's
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just completely unaffiliated with anything.
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How you feel about that? Yeah, Frank gonna have to have a
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team on. I don't know which one is going
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to be, but Frank gonna have to have a team on.
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We're going to find out a lot Sunday.
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It's going to be great. About about what Frank going to
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do. But I kind of feel like he going
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to have Gamecock stuff on. That's just how I feel.
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That's blood, man. I mean, represent representing
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his son. You know, I feel like that's
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what it's going to be. If it was in Blacksburg, I think
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he might have put on Southern Virginia Tech for the people,
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but being neutral site, he's going to be in the box with
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other Gamecock fans and family. So that's just that's my
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prediction right there. Frank, if you listening to this,
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you better show it with some damn hokey stuff on.
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You got a statue sitting in front of that stadium?
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You better get down the road he's in.
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I took a picture with that statue.
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We did take a picture with that statue.
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It looked like it looked like Hank Hill daddy, but it's still
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a statue. It's.
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Close enough. It's close enough.
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Yeah. It's in the ballpark.
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You know who it is? Yeah, we know who it is.
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It's. It's better than some statues
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and things I've seen in the past.
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Some of them are just God awful. But but let's let's get into it
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because obviously this is your team.
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This is the team you focus on. So we've got quite a few
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questions we want to ask and I'm going to lead it off and I won't
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talk. We're going to start on offense
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and I won't talk about Mike Schuler because yeah, you, you
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look at it, you got Mike Schuler coming in, former Alabama head
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coach, you know, former NFL coordinator, you know, worked
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there with Cam for a few years up in up in Carolina.
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And last year he was brought in as a special assistant to the
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offense. Now my question is, was this
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effectively Lamoris is built similar to Cam similar game?
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Was this strictly for that? And was the always move to OC
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going to happen regardless whatever?
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Was it Dow all right? Yeah, Dow Loggins.
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Dow Loggins, who went up to at State.
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Was that the plan from the beginning you think?
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I don't know if it was necessarily the beginning.
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I mean, I think Shane would have loved to have kept dabble on,
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you know, things started to really click with with them and
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especially that last six game stretch of the season last year.
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I think it was a natural transition for a few reasons.
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Like, yes, Shula has experience with athletic quarterbacks like
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Cam, but he also has experience with a guy like Josh Allen
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briefly. He like he will name drop Daniel
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Jones. I'm not putting him anywhere
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near my quarterback. It's, you know, a guy.
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Subject. That's the sore subject.
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So yeah. So I think when you had, he was
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the on field assistant for Dabble Loggins.
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So the guy who was talking and sitting down with Lenoris on the
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field when the bullets are flying was Shula.
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And so I think you're able to keep some synergy between maybe
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some of the terminology, knowing some of Lenoris's tendencies.
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And I'm pretty sure Lenoris gave it a glowing review and a green
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light when the decision was, you know, more or less finalized,
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like, hey, we're going to do this.
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But I just felt like it was a natural transition where you
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didn't have to overhaul the entire system.
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And, you know, I think we're all cautiously optimistic to see how
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it goes. Well, I'm hoping that it goes
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bad because I'm from Alabama. Sure.
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And I'm used to Mike Shula being Alabama's coach, and that is not
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something you want to talk about in the state of Alabama.
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Did not go well. So if I can see something like
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that happen, You seem cool, Tim, but I want him to do bad.
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But anyway, we going to go to the next.
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We going to go to the next thing.
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Talking about your quarterback, which everybody kind of knows
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him. If you haven't heard about him,
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probably haven't been paying attention to college football.
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Lenore Sellers getting a ton of hype this offseason, which is
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warranted kind of. Could you tell us a little bit
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about him and what you know of him and what you know kind of
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what we expect for him from him in this game?
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Yeah, I mean Lenoris is we're calling him la savior.
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If you he he was a guy that when he came in, you know, was
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recruited a little bit under the radar, was actually at one point
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committed to your in state rivals Virginia and we were all
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excited about him. We knew he had all the ability
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in the world and what you saw last year was really his
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maturation and realizing some of that potential where those first
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four or five games he was actually banged up a lot.
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It was battling through some injuries, but once he was able
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to stay on the field and develop and get those game reps, you saw
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it all come together. He's big, he's fast, he's
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physical. Everyone loves to talk about his
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ability to escape the pocket and run, which is incredible.
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And there's a play from our game against A&M where he just truck
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stick to dude to get the first down so he can do all that.
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But I think what's underrated about him is his passing
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ability. Like last year he had some
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fantastic throws, but you could tell he wasn't quite as polished
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as maybe you'd want your SEC quarterback to be.
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So that's where I think Mike Shula is going to really help
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him. And what they've really preached
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this year is working on the footwork, knowing when to tuck
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and run instead of having to rely on it.
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So I think you have a real possibility that Lenora Sellers
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can be a top two or three quarterback in all of college
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football this year. And, you know, we're all kind of
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holding our breath. You know, we haven't really had
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something like that in Colombia. Like, you know, we had Spencer
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Rattler recently. He had his good moments and his
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last year in Carolina was really good, although the winds didn't
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really stack up. You got to go back to Connor
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Shaw as a guy who really was that warrior for the Gamecocks,
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but more of a college quarterback scramble, like
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didn't really have that necessarily pro ability, but a
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guy that just won a ton of games, bled Garnet and black.
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But Lenoris is kind of that first time that we're looking at
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this like, holy crap, we might have a top overall quarterback
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pick in our locker room right now and a guy who's going to
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give us a chance in every game. So I know I just went on for a
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little bit, but if you can't tell, we're we're we're pretty
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excited about Lenora sellers around these parts.
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Well, you, well, you should be. I mean, last year, what, 65%
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completions, 18 to 7 ratio. You know, rusher over 500 yards
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and he's A and he's and he's a big guy.
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It's not like you're going out there.
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I mean, was HE63240? He's a.
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Big guy like that, what about I'll?
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I'll ask this because he played every game last year.
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All but one game last year. Yeah, he sat out one game due to
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injury, but he got knocked out of the LSU game, which was a
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heartbreaker for South Carolina. And you could just tell he
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wasn't 100%. And, and some of these other
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ones earlier in the year, I believe it was the Ole Miss game
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where he came back. And that was his first like game
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where he was like fully healthy back from recovering from the
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injuries. And so those last six games that
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Carolina won all in a row was really when he was fully healthy
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and acclimated. What was the injury last year?
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I mean, you know, it's like us, you can tell us.
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Well, Kyle Drum was hurt like it was his foot, then it was
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shoulder and his knee is everything.
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What was that particular injury early in the season last year?
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It was a high ankle sprain. Yeah.
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So it, it lingered. And especially for a young
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quarterback who was relying on his legs a little bit earlier in
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the season, you know it it, it was tough, but, you know,
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managed through it and, you know, came out on the other side
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better for it. Well, let's talk about the
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biggest news for the the Gamecocks this week.
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Rasul Faison. Let me know if I'm pronouncing
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that correctly. Got got approved by the NCAA for
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a new another year of eligibility it seems.
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He's like 46, get a job. Yes, it it seems that a lot of
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this is contingent upon, you know, what judge you get, but
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all these guys train for, you know, four or five teams in
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their career. But that's just the way things
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are today. So well, I was looking at his
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PFF stats. Obviously he was very well rated
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in the running game specifically seemed like he struggled a
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little bit with run blocking last year.
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But you know, for the most part a pretty good runner has some
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good after contact numbers. Tell us about his game, what
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what him being eligible will provide for the offense that
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maybe they wouldn't have otherwise if he was off the
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field. Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, that was a that was a hell of a countdown we had with
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the NCAA, like, you know, and brief history, like I don't
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think many people have glowing reviews of the NCAA, but it just
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feels like for South Carolina, like you always get the short
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end to stick with these rulings where I was convinced he was
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going to get cleared, but only after the game with y'all.
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So we're all very excited about that.
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I mean, the running backroom as it sits without him, I had faith
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in, you know, even without him, it's three or four guys deep,
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guys with experience. Name you're going to hear a lot
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is Oscar Attaway. He's now going to be that really
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RB2 more likely. But Faison was a guy that the
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coaching staff were really high on kind of penciled him is an as
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an RB one. I think he's a violent runner He
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can make a guy miss can run between the tackles just as well
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as going outside. But I think when you're really
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going to see his value is catching and in those short
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intermediate passes, those those screens and things like that.
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So his run after the catch ability as a running back I
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think is really exciting. And just now it's that much more
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deeper of a running backroom. So he's been practicing under
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the assumption that he's going to be cleared.
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So I don't see necessarily this drop off in usage, but there
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might be a little bit where maybe a guy like Addaway or a
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Fuller goes a little bit more than maybe normal.
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But yeah, we're all really excited for Sewell and what he
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brings to the table. Let let let me ask this because
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I think the one thing that I had for for Mike Shula's offense is
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Mike Shula's pro guy. Usually most pro guys are 5050.
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They're going to try to balance it out.
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You you look at the data from last year, you know y'all were a
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6364% run team versus a 30% pass team.
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Do you have a pause for a second that could they, and we know how
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this goes because this was us last year, Could they try to
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push too much pass early? Because we're trying to get
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Lenore's to go to the next level to get ready and effectively go
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away from the bread and butter, go away from what works early in
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the season because we're trying to make him an NFL player.
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Is does that fear? Because you know?
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Effectively, we saw it happen with Carmen Jones last year.
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They tried to make him a pocket pass for what he wasn't and you
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saw some of the results we had until finally they decided to
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switch it back. Yeah, you guys are great.
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First off, you guys are coming out with stats that like I
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haven't even looked at like we got, we got ratings and things
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like that. So kudos to y'all, but it's a
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good question. Now, I think some of that 65
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split that you had was you do have a young quarterback and you
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have to lean on, you had a guy in Rocket Sanders last year who
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was one of the better backs in the SEC.
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So you're going to work what's what's cooking for you.
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And the wide receiver corps last year was pretty thin and rather
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inexperienced. This year, the wide receiver
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corps returns basically all the the main guys from last year in
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the 2 deep. So you have that.
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You have experienced tight ends as well, brought in a good tight
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end transfer from Kentucky, and you have a bunch of exciting
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freshmen wide receivers as well. But the offensive line has a lot
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of continuity and is set to be improved.
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So all that to say, I think you probably see a more even split
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of run pass. Something that South Carolina
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always has wanted to do under Shane Beamer is control the line
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of scrimmage. So they're going to be stubborn
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with the run regardless. And with Lenoris, like yes,
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they're trying to get him to be a more complete passer, but
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you're not going to get away from his strength and his X
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Factor, which is his legs, right?
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So I guess to answer your question, like I'm not too
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worried about them forcing the issue with having Lenoris air it
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out a lot because of the depth in the running backroom.
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If they have to turn to that, they will.
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Got it. And, and, and you mentioned
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about the, the receivers and stuff because you know, your
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leading guy last year was a tight end, Josh Simmons.
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I mean, 40 receptions, just over 500 yards.
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And you know, looking through it, I'm gonna throw some names
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out here. You tell me who you're most
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excited about. So you've got second receipt.
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Lead receiver last year was Mazzio Bennett, Junior.
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And then some of the other guys you've got Ventrilus,
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Ventrilvius, Jacob or Have Mercy, somebody.
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We're very familiar with Nick Harbor because he's up from the
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DC area, so the DMV. But out of all those, Jared
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Brown is the only guy that you guys are potentially in your two
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3D because we got to consider the slot now part of it.
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So we used to talk about two D4D wide receiver.
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Wide receiver is 6 or 7 deep. Now you got Jared Brown who
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transferred from Coastal has the most career yards out of all
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those guys. He he's the only guy that has
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1000 yards career that you're bringing back.
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So they played some last year, but it's not like they exploded.
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Who are you excited about? I mean, it has to be Nick
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Harbor. It has to be he was getting
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better and better as the game went on.
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Now the thing with Harbor is, or as the season went on, excuse
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me, but the thing with Harbor was he was A2 sport athlete.
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He was splitting his time between track and football, and
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when he was in high school he wasn't really a wide receiver
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full time, right? Like I could be mistaken here,
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but I think he played some defense, maybe even tight end as
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well. So he's still pretty raw as a
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wide receiver. This offseason he made the
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decision to not pursue track anymore.
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So he has a full spring under his belt.
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The reports out of campers that he looks great.
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You have to be the most excited about him just because of his
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physical abilities. Now, I really like Mazie O
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Bennett. He was a big recruiting win that
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the Carolina Gamecocks got, was pretty consistent for them as a
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true freshman. And if he can take up his game
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to the next level, I think that's someone who could be a
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difference maker for you as well.
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But those those four guys that you listed off like, yes, that's
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the core that we're hoping to collectively take a next step
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because behind them it is a bunch of freshmen, albeit, you
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know, talented, but still freshmen.
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So I like, I like Harbor and Bennett to take big steps
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forward this year. And in order for them to have
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big years, you are going to rely on that offensive line.
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And you're looking, looking at the offensive line, it looks
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like 11 starter returning from last year, Josiah Thompson.
24:29
You had a tree bobble lady returning that played some in
24:34
2023 but then redshirted last year.
24:36
In 2024. You had a couple other guys mix
24:39
in from the from the transfer portal.
24:43
What what is the biggest concern for this offensive line given
24:47
that there's not a ton of returning talent from last
24:49
year's team? So I'm going to Fact Check you a
24:51
little bit on that case. And Henry was the starting right
24:54
tackle. He is also returning as well.
24:57
And you also have a guy Trovon Bo, who played a lot his
25:01
freshman year, maybe quite you know was in and out of the
25:05
rotation, but he played a lot as well.
25:07
Then you're bringing in Boaz Stanley from thinking
25:12
transferred in from Troy. Yes, thank you.
25:15
Yes, so there's a this is the most size and athleticism that
25:21
Shane Beamer has had on that offensive line in his tenure.
25:26
And the offensive line has been an issue for South Carolina.
25:30
I mean, I you could probably go to the majority of college
25:34
football fan bases and they'll say this has been an issue, but
25:37
it kind of feels like put up or shut up time for this line.
25:40
So looking at guys like Josiah Thompson, Tro Tree Case and
25:46
Henry Staley, then you got Nick Sharp.
25:49
There's a couple of guys here who could be plugged and played
25:54
in. They cross train and it's a,
25:58
it's a pause because it's been a not exactly a strength for South
26:03
Carolina. But this year the hope is that
26:06
they're they're a little bit more experienced collectively
26:09
and they can go and at least get out of the gate a little bit
26:12
faster than they did. Hope that answers the question.
26:16
Good. Where's the battle?
26:18
Because we've named 6 or 7. But where's the battle?
26:21
Where's where you mentioned Tree?
26:24
Because I think Tree played right tackle along with Haston
26:27
some last year. Is that the battle right now?
26:30
Is that the one that if as hokey fans start seeing it, that you
26:35
might see both of those guys play off and on?
26:38
From everything I've seen, yes, it's those two guys and I I
26:42
think Kayson might have the inside track for it.
26:45
Tree is he's a he's an interesting case.
26:47
He's really good. Like he played his freshman year
26:51
and I thought he would have been a shoe in to play last year, his
26:55
sophomore year, but he can play tackle, he can play guard.
26:59
So that's a guy that you can look out for as just he can go
27:02
anywhere and he's a massive human being.
27:05
On one of the interior guard positions, you have a freshman
27:10
who's trying to battle his way there, Shed Sarat and he's
27:14
battling. I believe it's with Nick Sharp,
27:16
who is a transfer guard as well. So there's a couple, but I think
27:21
for the most part you're looking at Kason Trovon, Josiah Staley
27:25
and Sharp. But it's going to be interesting
27:29
to see what's that depth chart is officially released, which
27:31
I'm hoping we get in a day or two.
27:33
Y'all aren't getting one by the way they said it today.
27:37
Yep. I can't remember who it was now
27:40
it was I'm assuming y'all did media day-to-day down there and
27:44
someone said with the media notes no depth chart was.
27:48
So he is that scared of Virginia Tech coming off the 6th?
27:51
And so, no, so that's the, that's the media notes.
27:55
Shane Beamer had pushed everything back a day this week
27:58
because the game's on Sunday. So normally he does the normally
28:02
he does the he does the press conference on a Tuesday, which
28:06
would have been today. And I think he's doing it
28:08
tomorrow. So I'm thinking tomorrow or
28:10
Thursday we'll have a depth chart.
28:11
But I predict there's going to be a lot of ores on it.
28:14
He doesn't. He doesn't keep it like too too,
28:17
you know, strict. Yeah, yeah, ours came out with a
28:21
bunch of ores as well, so we're going to shake that out a little
28:24
bit later in this episode. We're going to talk about.
28:26
Our depth card I'm. Sure, a little later, a lot of
28:30
ores I've heard it's. I've heard it's thin.
28:32
That's all I've heard Thin. Necessarily thin.
28:36
Just a lot of ore, all right. Less.
28:39
Certainty positions we thought were maybe more certain than
28:42
they are. We'll see.
28:44
It's all gamesmanship. Like especially Week 1, it's
28:47
it's all just gamesmanship. Well, hold on, y'all got to go
28:50
look this up because if you're a college football fan, go look at
28:53
what New Mexico Lobos. Have y'all seen that yet?
28:56
I just saw that, yeah. Did you see that?
28:57
Shelton? Go look it up if you get a
29:00
chance to him tonight. Yeah, It's it's hilarious what
29:03
they did. Is it they're it's I don't want
29:07
to spoil it for you. You're going to laugh.
29:09
You're going to laugh your ass off.
29:11
Let's get over we we, we we talked about the offense hit all
29:15
the burning point. Shelton Moss kick us off on
29:17
defense, man. Yeah.
29:20
So first of on defense, let's talk Dylan's talk talk.
29:24
Dylan Stewart obviously had a great year last year, 51 keeping
29:28
pressures total, which is 4th best NSC and we'll talk about
29:31
him later on the podcast as well.
29:33
So my question to you is, you know, on a scale of 1 to Nedama
29:38
can sue, how concerned should Hokies fans be about this case?
29:41
He looks at me like he's got elite physical tools, maybe a
29:44
little bit undersized, but obviously you can't deny the
29:46
results there. How, how dangerous is he and how
29:49
do you think he will, you know, maintain his effectiveness
29:53
without a guy like Kyle Kennard on his opposite side?
29:57
I mean, you, you guys worry about the Sandman every game.
30:01
This Dylan super might as well be the Sandman for you guys.
30:04
I would I would be I would put him on the scale of 1 to
30:06
Jadavian Clowney. That's where I got him this
30:09
year. He is everything you want to be
30:12
in your all American all SEC potential D end.
30:17
You know, you say maybe a little undersized, maybe he looked a
30:20
little skinny, but he's now another year or you know, really
30:24
two off seasons now, but a now another year bigger, faster and
30:27
stronger. He's going to get a lot of
30:29
attention like naturally. And yes, we can talk about the
30:33
loss of Kyle Kennard, who Nagurski award winner like that
30:37
helps anyone who's opposite to him, but Dylan Stewart has that
30:40
game breaking ability. Speaking of Clowny, he was
30:44
mentored by him a little bit in this offseason.
30:47
Just what to expect going from year one to year 2.
30:50
He has his sights on all of those accolades that Clowny had,
30:54
and while I do expect him to get some extra attention from
30:58
offensive lines, I think he is good enough to take over and
31:02
have his moments. But at that same time, does it
31:05
open up things on the other side of him where a guy like Brian
31:09
Thomas or JT Gear who can go in there opposite of him and create
31:14
some plays? So I'm so excited for Dylan
31:17
Stewart. Like as much excitement as we
31:19
have for Lenora Sellers in the offense, like I'm just as
31:23
excited to watch Dylan Stewart this year.
31:24
And it's a lot to put on one guy, but he has all the ability
31:28
in the world. Yeah, absolutely.
31:31
And I love what you said about the Canard thing because that's
31:34
always my big question. When you guys have when they're
31:38
younger and they have good seasons and you look at the
31:40
opposite side and it's Canard drafted high.
31:44
He was an elite edge guy last year.
31:46
How does that take away now when he goes in and now it's like,
31:50
listen, you're not getting one-on-one against the lesser of
31:53
the tackles. You're going to get chipped.
31:56
You're going to get a Brian Siegel here was a guard in
31:58
college. That guard is going to throw
32:00
this fucking elbow right into your ribs, get you set to get
32:03
him back into set to stop you. Are you ready for that Now?
32:07
I'm going to go here and Sheldon wanted to jump in with Dylan
32:10
Stewart, which we completely understand he is.
32:13
He's the face right now for y'all's defense.
32:15
But let's talk about the DC, let's talk about Clayton White.
32:19
Y'all run a 425 y'all, y'all run that.
32:22
And he's been to South Carolina for I think since Shane got
32:26
there, right since Shane got there.
32:30
What's the just the feel on him as a coordinator is, again, we
32:34
don't watch a lot of games, North Carolina games, but is he
32:38
heavy blitz? Is it zone?
32:39
Is it a mix? What do you see from him Sunday?
32:43
Potentially setting up against the Hokies?
32:48
Yeah, it's, it's a great question.
32:49
It is funny to see if it almost feels rare nowadays.
32:53
I mean, I, I, you guys can probably understand like just in
32:56
general college football like to have a coordinator stay for five
33:00
years now, it feels rare and it feels like guys either get fired
33:03
or they take the first head coaching job that gets offered
33:06
to them. And Clayton White has had a
33:08
couple of, you know, bites. It seems like a potential head
33:11
coaching gigs at smaller schools, but has decided to stay
33:14
in South Carolina. Had one rough year, but came out
33:17
through the other side of it. But yeah, you said 425.
33:20
He's he's going to play a lot of man.
33:21
He lets his guys man up, go on islands and he's going to let
33:24
that front four that, you know, front six with the 425 go to
33:28
work. So in an ideal state, he's
33:31
rushing 4, maybe 5. Not a ton of exotic blitzes and
33:36
things like that from him. But that's why the defense last
33:39
year felt so successful because you had such a strong defensive
33:43
line that they could go to work and disrupt the passing, you
33:47
know, just on themselves. This year the experience is
33:51
mainly in the back end of the defense where you have a really
33:54
strong, you know, core group of defensive backs.
33:58
So I'm expecting him to do more of the same man coverage, let
34:02
those guys do their jobs on Highlands.
34:04
And it's funny, I think it could be a deal where without a guy
34:09
like a Kyle Canard or ATJ Sanders in the defensive tackle
34:14
position, at least in this first game, it could be a lot of like
34:18
coverage sacks that you're trying to get where the D backs
34:21
are, you know, playing, playing well, doing their job.
34:23
And you're gaining that extra second or two for a guy like
34:26
Dylan Stewart to get off that double team and then get home.
34:29
But all told, yeah, that's that's that's Clayton White.
34:32
They're pretty good at making halftime adjustments.
34:35
All told. I am a fan.
34:37
What's that like halftime adjustments?
34:39
Dude, it's weird sometimes. Sometimes we'll say he waits a
34:43
little too long though, you know, like that's that sometimes
34:45
could be the knock on him. But it is going to be
34:48
interesting to see there. There's no denying that there's
34:51
talent that needs to be replaced in that front group of guys,
34:55
linebackers especially, defensive tackles especially,
34:59
and it's going to be interesting to see how this coaching staff
35:02
works with that. I like the talent there.
35:04
It's just a matter of can they produce on the field, you know?
35:08
Yeah. And before we pivot back to that
35:10
more experience back and let's let's pivot back over to the
35:14
defensive line a little bit. Kind of look on the interior, we
35:17
we, we kind of circled Nick Barrett as a name to watch on
35:20
the inside of that defensive line.
35:22
But if there are there some other guys that we should be
35:24
looking out for and what do they bring to the table from a skill
35:27
set perspective? Yeah, great, great name.
35:29
Drop Nick Barrett, a guy that we're all really excited for.
35:32
He is experienced. He's going to he's set to fill
35:36
the shoes of that leader in the defensive tackle group.
35:39
Two more names for you all to watch here.
35:40
Monkell Goodwine has been with the program for a couple of
35:44
years now transferred in from I believe Alabama two years ago.
35:47
But a guy who has played some, you know, little bit by little
35:51
bit and really that story of development and now it's his
35:54
time to start and he's going to start opposite of Nick Barrett.
35:58
I I expect, and that's the name I would keep out for another 1
36:02
is Gabriel or Gabe Brownlow Dindy, a former five star
36:06
recruit who transferred in this past year from Texas A&M.
36:09
Never quite lived up to that five star potential, but that's
36:13
a guy who's experienced. I like to spin it for these
36:16
transfers. It's like, well, at least they
36:17
got SEC caliber coaching, right? Like this isn't new to them.
36:21
So like he's a guy that if he can put it together, he has the
36:25
size and the physicality that you look for.
36:27
There's a couple other guys, you know, who you're hoping can
36:30
develop and, you know, show up on the field, a guy like Pikes
36:34
who transferred in. But I'd say good wine, Barrett,
36:37
Brownlow, Dindy, those are your big three there in the defensive
36:40
tackle spot. Yeah, moving up from the, I
36:44
guess the defensive line going to the next level talking.
36:47
I know you talked a little bit about kind of linebackers and
36:51
hoping those guys take a next step, talking about, you know,
36:53
the next guy who is, you know, taking over for a beast that you
36:57
guys had in night of, yeah, Fred Johnson, which most, you know,
37:03
Virginia people know. Thieves, Thieves Virginia.
37:09
Has been very good to the Gamecocks lately.
37:11
Yeah, yeah, we it's been lovely. We've been.
37:14
We've been good to Y'all. We've been good to Penn State.
37:17
We've been good to Rutgers even. I mean, we've been good to
37:20
everybody, man. Sorry, Tally.
37:22
Sorry, Tally get hit a nerve. What are you talking about,
37:24
Fred? All good.
37:26
Yeah, just just talking about Fred and kind of, you know, I
37:30
know a sophomore this year, great, great player from high
37:35
school that again, a lot of Virginia fans know, Virginia
37:39
Tech fans know. So kind of speak on him and what
37:42
you know of him and will he be starting for you guys.
37:45
Yeah, I do expect him to start. I'm excited for him.
37:48
You know, he played meaningful snaps last year as a freshman
37:51
and was a guy who you would just hear about every now and again
37:55
in these press conferences as a guy that's impressing the
37:57
coaches as a young player. You know, he did a lot on
38:00
special teams as well. But I expect him to take that
38:03
next level and be that leader on the defense.
38:06
You know, I he, it's funny, you mentioned Demetrius Knight.
38:10
There was also Debo Williams, though.
38:12
He was, you know, in their shadow a little bit.
38:14
So the plays he made, these other guys were right around
38:17
with them. And you're kind of, you got your
38:18
eye kind of on them a little bit.
38:20
But alongside him, there's a few other guys that, again, you're
38:23
hoping can take that next step. A guy like Sean Murphy, who just
38:27
transferred in, and then Jaron Willis.
38:30
Yeah, we know. That name too.
38:31
We know that name too. Is he another Virginia guy?
38:35
I know he transferred from like Bama Florida State but.
38:39
Virginia guy that committed to Virginia Tech for about four
38:43
months so. Wow.
38:45
Alright, well, hey, you guys. You guys have a good eye for
38:49
talent at least, yeah. You know what?
38:52
There's that. It seems like if they don't come
38:54
back around to us, they're they're heading down there to
38:56
Columbia, so. Yeah, it's, it's very
38:59
interesting. I mean, like side note, like,
39:00
you know, part of the argument is like for the Mid-Atlantic,
39:03
like the, you know, the DMV guys, like South Carolina is the
39:06
closest SEC school. But it's going to be interesting
39:09
to see with college worth of conference expansion if how long
39:13
that holds true, whether it is a Virginia Tech or an NC State,
39:17
potential SEC expansion. It's very interesting.
39:19
I actually, for what it's worth, I actually think Virginia Tech
39:21
would be a pretty cool addition to the SEC, but that's, you
39:24
know, a different conversation. We we hope so too.
39:28
It should've it actually technically.
39:30
We've had that conversation a bunch of different ways and
39:34
obviously at this point, anything that's not SEC or Big
39:37
10 is really kind of going to get left out in the cold one in
39:39
the long run. So it's interesting.
39:40
One of those two, I mean, and but with I will say with the the
39:44
new SEC mandate, if you will, that these schools have to play
39:48
a Power 4 opponent once a year outside of the SEC moving
39:52
forward. It's going to be interesting to
39:53
see how that works. So get ready to learn, SEC
39:57
Buddies. Oh, we've been OSDC for a long
40:00
time. Well, a couple things.
40:01
First of all, we've already got Alabama and on this on schedule
40:03
and South Carolina future dates too.
40:05
So that's already been playing. But college football and future
40:09
dates don't matter. Worth a shit.
40:11
Let me ask real quick on the linebacker room because you
40:14
mentioned, you know, night, like Tally mentioned he was a stud.
40:18
He was an absolute beast last year.
40:20
You mentioned Debo Williams, but y'all also lost Dan Martin
40:24
Scott. Dan Martin Scott, you just made
40:26
the Panthers roster. So so y'all are replacing a trio
40:31
of starting linebackers? Yeah, yeah.
40:34
Just just making sure that when I was researching, I was like, I
40:38
know Knight. I mocked Knight to the 49ers
40:41
like 14 times during the pre drafts, all that fun stuff.
40:45
But Brian, he's mentioned the back end.
40:48
Where are we going next? Yeah.
40:51
I mean, you know, back in, you know, you talked about that
40:54
being a little bit more experienced, but you did have,
40:56
you know, one big departure there with what Nick Emma Moore
41:02
looks like maybe. Yeah.
41:04
Yeah, looks like Peyton Williams is going to be, you know,
41:07
sliding into that spot. What can you tell me about
41:11
Peyton Williams? What does he bring to the table
41:13
at that position? Yeah, it's funny.
41:16
Peyton Williams is a guy that's really waited his turn and kind
41:19
of that old school guy who's developed and waited his turn
41:23
and has done well with any opportunity that he's gotten.
41:27
When Nick opted out, if for lack of a better term, of the
41:32
second-half of our bowl game, he slid in and performed really
41:36
well. Whenever Nick was, you know, had
41:39
to be rotated out for whatever reason the last year or two, he
41:43
was the guy that went in there and performed very well.
41:46
It's it's a huge hole to fill. I mean, there's there's no way
41:49
to dodge that, right? Like, Nick did everything
41:53
borderline first rounder, but Peyton Williams is a guy that
41:56
understands this defense and he's going to understand his
41:59
role. And when he's been asked to step
42:02
onto the field, he's tended to perform well.
42:05
But really what it is is you're asking Nicky Manori's, you know,
42:09
counterpart DQ Smith, a guy that's played alongside of him
42:13
since they were both true freshmen, to now really be that
42:16
leader in the in the safety position where, you know, there
42:19
were a couple times in the past he's been caught out of
42:21
position. And Nick really never really
42:24
was. So you're kind of asking him now
42:26
to OK, like you're a senior now it's time to take that next
42:28
step. But answer the question.
42:30
I have full faith in Peyton Williams for sure.
42:32
And also, you know, there's a guy, David Busey in the mix for
42:35
that, for that position battle as well.
42:36
Don't be surprised if you're his name called Sunday as well.
42:41
Very nice and you're fluffing information.
42:44
I love it. I love it.
42:45
So I'm going to talk about. This is this is hilarious.
42:48
Like I thought, I thought we were going to be talking like
42:49
game lines and Lenoris and how we're we're talking David Busey.
42:53
Like you guys are awesome. You guys are like, well, first
42:58
of all, we need to let you know something about.
42:59
I'm gonna let you know something about my three partners.
43:02
Shelton is an Sid. Shelton knows his stats.
43:05
He knows his data. He's going to fire away.
43:08
Tally played tight end at Jacksonville State back in the
43:11
day. Football gamer Brian played
43:14
offensive line at Ham and Sydney at D3 school.
43:17
But these we and I just love football.
43:20
So although I have to say this, in the last few years of having
43:23
Shelton here, he has turned me on some some wonderful stat
43:27
sites and got me into that deeper and deeper.
43:30
So we bring the heat because we want to know the players.
43:33
We want to know what to expect. Game line right now, seven and a
43:37
half, eight points. That's probably it might go down
43:40
a hair. It might go up yeah, but I want
43:43
to hit before I wrap up with you, I want to hit one last
43:46
player because this is the guy that I I'm I'm going to say it
43:51
later when we do a few things about the Hokies.
43:54
This is the guy that scares the Jesus out of me for your team.
43:57
OK. And it is Jalen Kilgore because
44:01
once. I.
44:02
Look at Jalen Kilgore and you know, but he was a stud coming
44:07
out of high school. He was a top 247 player.
44:11
That's. Without last year he picked the
44:14
ball off 5 times but only 40 tackles.
44:17
But then I did more research and it was the year before he had 80
44:21
tackles. So the guy can clearly tackle.
44:25
So give me some background here because usually you don't see
44:28
that big of a gap. Usually if a guy has 80 tackles,
44:32
they're in the 60 to 70 range. Was there a change in what he
44:35
did last year or was it just a change in what happened?
44:41
Because he went from being a tackling machine, which is
44:44
great, to be in a damn ball hawk, which usually you put them
44:47
together, you're going to go in the first 3 rounds of the NFL
44:49
draft. Yeah, I mean, he's a beast.
44:51
You know, he he's he's been a beast pretty much since he
44:54
stepped on campus. He's a guy that's been asked to
44:57
do a lot of different things. So that might account for some
44:59
of that. Just where they had him playing.
45:02
We're going to go deep in the in the in the in the bag here.
45:05
So last year, so two years ago when he had all more of the
45:11
tackles, Clayton White had to make a little bit of a change in
45:16
the defensive scheme to go to a 335 because the the the defense
45:20
was just really thin, banged up, couldn't generate enough
45:24
pressure. So you had more guys sitting
45:26
back. So you're going to have more
45:27
tackles that maybe it was like the running back getting to the
45:30
second level and things of that nature.
45:32
And the Gamecocks were giving up a lot more quick passes two
45:35
years ago. Last year, you're able to get
45:38
more pressures on the quarterbacks.
45:40
And I think you had that front 7, if you will, doing a lot more
45:44
damage. And then you would have normally
45:47
had or doing a lot more damage, period, right?
45:50
So then you look at a guy like Kilgore was able to just be in
45:52
coverage and do his thing and stay on his man.
45:54
So sometimes maybe not as close to the action as he would have
45:57
been two years ago, but he's a guy that can do it all for sure.
46:01
Let me ask this to like showing his ball hawk skills.
46:05
Were there times last year where people just kind of went away
46:08
from him? He didn't get targeted at all in
46:12
in the defense? Or was it more of that kind of
46:13
shift in philosophy? I mean, I, I don't think guys, I
46:19
don't think teams went away from him.
46:21
You know, there's a guy who got drafted, O'Donnell Fortune from
46:26
South Carolina, who that was a team that was a guy that guy's
46:30
tried to stay away from. Wherever Nick was shaded guy
46:33
stayed away from. But I think with Kilgore, he
46:36
just has those natural instincts and he knows where to be, you
46:39
know, right place, right time. And just in general, that back
46:43
half of the defense is really well coached by Tory and Gray
46:47
and they understand their jobs. And there tends to be more than
46:49
one guy around the ball. So if it gets batted in the air,
46:52
someone's going to be there. And I think he benefited from
46:54
that. Got it.
46:57
Well, before we we let you off for the night we got to get to,
47:00
we want to hear your prediction of what you think this this
47:04
final score is going to be in this game.
47:06
Oh, final score. Wow.
47:08
Well, weak ones are crazy, aren't they?
47:11
Like they are, you just don't know what to expect.
47:15
I think like a lot of South Carolina fans were like very
47:19
aware that like this is a powerful matchup.
47:21
And I think when I personally look at tech, like you guys got
47:27
screwed against Miami and there was one or two other games that
47:30
like you very well could have been on the other side of.
47:33
So maybe you underperformed a little bit, but it's a team that
47:36
could have had seven or eight wins.
47:38
So. And, you know, on top of that,
47:40
the two new coordinators like that scares me because you just
47:44
don't know what the heck you're going to get.
47:46
Like, what kind of film is there to study really, especially your
47:49
defensive coordinator, Like, what's this guy's deal?
47:51
Like he was just a linebacker's coach.
47:54
Like like he really just like hired A linebackers.
47:57
Like he never was ADC, right? Like I, I.
47:59
No, he was. He was a.
48:00
DC at Wofford LO Mighty Wofford, of course, yeah.
48:04
But like. Nonetheless, no we disrespect
48:07
to. Wofford so, but if you look at
48:08
actually his what probably would have happened the COVID year he
48:12
had taken Wofford, they won the Southern championship basically
48:16
we're top 15 in defense in FCS three straight years.
48:19
And the crazier part, when we were looking at that tape,
48:22
y'all, it was with a three man front.
48:24
It was with the four man front. It was what one of them was like
48:27
a like a three, three stack. So it wasn't the same defense
48:32
those three years when everything broke with COVID.
48:36
I think where he was probably in his career, I think he was
48:39
probably about to make the step up, but COVID completely screwed
48:43
up FCS season. He got a call from the Minnesota
48:46
Vikings. Do you want to be an assistant
48:48
linebacker's coach in the league?
48:51
He's from he's from Wisconsin area.
48:54
He if you want to know a little bit more background about him,
48:57
he GA for Dave Aranda, you know Baylor's head coach, LSU
49:02
defensive coordinator when they were he was an absolute stud
49:05
there. And then when you go to
49:08
Minnesota, he was with Mike Zimmer for a couple years.
49:12
There is a story that they were going to basically him
49:15
linebacker month, linebacker coach, money to be an assistant,
49:18
linebacker coach. He didn't want to do that.
49:20
He went to he went to Arizona to be the linebackers coach.
49:24
So that is his background. So good to know.
49:27
Good to know. So, yeah, I mean, that like kind
49:30
of scares me. Like that's just there's just
49:32
not a lot, a lot of tape for South Carolina to go after.
49:35
So I think this game is going to be kind of a slog in that first
49:39
half. Definitely that first quarter.
49:40
I think it's going to be tight. I don't think any, I think it's
49:44
going to take a while for these teams to to feel each other out.
49:48
I do think South Carolina finds its groove.
49:51
I do think depth wins out. I think some of the continuity
49:54
on defense or excuse me, on offense for South Carolina wins
49:58
out. But I do have it right around in
50:00
that spread 38 to 30 Carolina. But I think it's going to be a
50:05
good one. And I mean, I hope it's greater
50:08
for South Carolina, but that's that's what I had it as a while
50:12
ago. So yeah, it should be a good
50:14
one. That's awesome, Tim.
50:17
Well, we, we really appreciate you joining us tonight.
50:20
It's been a blast. I'll let you guys if you guys
50:22
want to say anything before we we let Tim kick out of here.
50:26
Cox on Cox baby. Y'all know the name?
50:31
I appreciate you guys. Thank you, Tim.
50:33
Fine. It's been.
50:34
Yeah, thanks. For bringing the heat, bringing
50:35
the info, man, Yeah. Appreciate you too.
50:38
Y'all be good. Yeah, so take care.
50:41
All righty, so that was Tim Cox from Cox talking game, Cox
50:46
podcast. Kimber up the heat, man, I know
50:49
a little bit more about them. I know and that now I know what
50:53
to be. Go ahead Tal, you about to say
50:54
something? I was just going to say I pray
50:56
that I can be as excited as Tim is about my team in the coming
51:00
years. That man is excited.
51:03
That's how, that's how that's how I want to feel going into
51:07
the college football season. I don't feel that way right now,
51:10
guys. We had a taste of that last
51:13
year. Then it got.
51:13
Taste of that last. Year right out of our.
51:16
Hands I don't want I don't want to think about it.
51:18
I don't want to think about last year.
51:21
Well, we. We also are a lot, well,
51:23
Shelton's not as old, but Shelton's been a college fan for
51:26
a long time, like. We got we got to play the game,
51:28
man. We got to play the game.
51:29
We have to play the game. Yeah, that's how we should have
51:33
felt. Put that up there.
51:35
I think this and what I like when he made that point of those
51:38
close games, you want to fly into those close games.
51:41
If you win a few of those close games, a few people don't
51:43
probably get fired. Right.
51:47
And so. Maybe a few people that should
51:49
have got fired wouldn't have got fired.
51:52
OK. So either way, appreciate them
51:55
bringing the heat. You got a lot more names and
51:58
stuff. Again, the one big thing that
52:00
like for them did I think, I think it's in the back of Tim's
52:07
head somewhere. He's just not trying to hide it
52:09
is that is a lot of talent lost on defense that played, that
52:15
played majority of the snaps. And it's not, it's not saying
52:19
there's 6th and 7th rounders, TJ Sanders 4th rounders, Immunori
52:24
second rounder, damn near 1st rounder, 9th, 3rd rounder,
52:29
Kinnar third rounder and those guys.
52:32
And we've seen an attack, right? We've seen a bunch of guys get
52:35
drafted all the the next guy's going to be OK and they ain't as
52:38
they're not bad, they're just not as good.
52:40
And we just know how that feels. Let's talk about, I mean, you,
52:44
you, you look at a 2017 to 2018 transition and yeah, yeah,
52:49
that's, that's basically what happened on that defense.
52:52
Now they're covered was a whole lot more full behind those guys
52:55
than what we had. But from a talent standpoint, it
52:58
was a very similar degree of loss.
53:01
There you go. That's a good way to put it.
53:02
All right, so we got a lot more to unload.
53:05
We 50 minutes in. And again, I wouldn't take that
53:08
away from nothing because I think Tim gave us an educational
53:10
South Carolina. It's going to help me know
53:13
names, numbers and all that fun stuff.
53:14
But if y'all were not aware, over the last few weeks we have
53:19
been running little ads saying you can win a ticket to a
53:22
concert the night before the game.
53:25
Well, we earlier today, I shouldn't say we Brian earlier
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today got all the emails, all the names, put them into a
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randomizer, click the button and we have a winner and it is Jay
53:41
Largon is the winner of the concert.
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Tickets to the AOAR concert this Saturday.
53:47
Brian actually got to connect with Jay real quick at coach Jay
53:50
Largon on Twitter. He is going to the game.
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So the tickets are going to be used.
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We appreciate all of y'all for just putting your just put it in
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the tweets out there, following it, clicking on the links.
54:07
It was a great opportunity for us to get that from the Hokie
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way. Yeah.
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And while we're at it, you know there there's still tickets out
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there for sale. Be sure I I know we got it down
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there in the bottom, but go to thehokeyway.org/concert and if
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you use boundary corner one word at at check out there, you'll
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get 10% off that ticket order. So if you're still looking for
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tickets, you're heading to Atlanta, you want to go to this
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concert that's. What you got to do do it All
54:34
right. Couple real quick hitters.
54:35
Y'all probably saw this. Divine Diablo is going to be the
54:38
honorary captain. Love seeing that tally.
54:43
You had to love the Instagram drop with the jersey reveal the
54:48
other day. Oh man, I like Waffle House even
54:52
more than orange. And that's, you know, that's
54:55
hard to do so. Are you a Waffle House
54:57
connoisseur, though? Are you?
54:59
Man, listen, I used to the old I've got.
55:02
I can't eat everything that I used to eat.
55:04
Like I get sick, but I still will go to Waffle House and get
55:07
me a chicken and cheese omelet with a waffle on the side.
55:12
You know, I'll get my hash Browns, throw a little onions in
55:16
there. You know what I'm saying?
55:18
Like Waffle House is just, I don't think I've ever been.
55:23
Let me tell you about Waffle House and then I'm going to be
55:24
done. I know we got to go on.
55:26
You got to see some crackheads at Waffle House.
55:29
Like you can't go to Waffle House and people be, you know,
55:32
have a, they can't, they need to live in a trailer.
55:36
You know, they need to not have all their teeth.
55:39
I went to Waffle House one time and the dude cooking my food had
55:42
a Waffle House arm band on. I knew the food was going to be
55:45
good. I knew it was.
55:48
He had a shooting sleeve on like Carmelo Anthony and he only had
55:53
three teeth. And I said, that's the one that
55:57
I want cooking my food because I know it's going to be greasy.
56:02
I know it's going to be clogging my heart up a little bit, but I
56:04
know it's going to be the best food I've had.
56:07
And I wasn't drunk. I was sober as can be.
56:10
I heard you either have to have a black belt or be a meth head
56:14
to work at Waffle House. You got to be, you got to have a
56:18
little bit of drug use to work in Waffle House.
56:21
You know, that's just what you got to do.
56:24
Somebody's got to, it's got to be a fight close.
56:27
It ain't got to be inside, but it's got to be a fight close
56:31
outside. Somebody in the back on the
56:33
phone, We need to see a little bit of crackhead activity for
56:39
that Waffle House to be buzzing. So if y'all ain't been to Waffle
56:43
House, if y'all don't know about Waffle House, Waffle House.
56:46
Hey, man, lose, lose a little bit of money.
56:48
I know, I know some of these people got money, man.
56:50
They probably, and I'm an IHOP guy too, but you know, Waffle
56:53
House, that's what it said. Waffle House, is it all righty?
56:56
So we're going to get into telling some truths here about
57:00
the depth chart. But before we do anything about
57:03
the depth chart, we got to tell the truth with all the news.
57:08
It's people are it's been up here 3 or 4 times about Caleb
57:12
Woodson. If you have not been under a
57:15
rock or if you have been under a rock today, excuse me and you
57:18
have not seen the news what happened?
57:21
And you just you just oblivious to everything.
57:24
Caleb Woodson on Saturday night did get Adu or excuse me, a DWI
57:31
charge so. You know, everybody's like Ricky
57:41
Leblu's comments. You didn't see Tally's comments.
57:44
Tally's comments was better. But just what are y'all,
57:49
Shelton? I'm going to throw it to you
57:51
first because a, you, you worked as an Sid.
57:53
You know, there's those rules. First of all, what is going to
57:58
happen this weekend? Just your prediction.
58:01
Tell the truth. What's going to happen this
58:03
weekend? Yeah, with them.
58:05
With Caleb Woodson. Yeah, I mean, I don't have any
58:08
doubt that it'll play. I mean, with these things,
58:10
normally what you do is you sort of, you know, you, you pass it
58:14
off to the university, university handles it because if
58:16
they're you've got their own policies, the athletic
58:18
department has their policies. So you guys wait and see.
58:22
And then, you know, they they do the they do the thing in court
58:25
and whenever they adjudicate that, then they'll, you know,
58:28
dish out some punishment. So I don't expect much will come
58:31
of it from a, from a, you know, a, not a disciplinary
58:35
standpoint, More so like, you know, this is not going to be a,
58:39
you know, lengthy suspension. Obviously it's not, it's not
58:42
even a felony. It's a, it's a misdemeanor.
58:45
So, but they'll probably, you know, handle it internally.
58:49
He's already been removed of his captaincy and Price said that he
58:53
has the opportunity to earn it back, which I would imagine
58:56
would take a while. But I think they're probably
58:59
just going to be pretty lean about this.
59:00
If they do a suspension, it'll probably be against Wofford
59:04
maybe for half, I don't know. But I would not expect any sort
59:07
of, you know, harsh handed disciplinary measures outside
59:12
of, you know, internal stuff that they, you know, they they
59:16
don't let that punishment with within the program.
59:19
Tom, I'm. I'm going to let y'all go 1st.
59:22
I'm going to go last. Oh, you're going to go last.
59:24
I'll go next. I'll give you the brown.
59:25
We'll, we'll go. We'll go this way.
59:28
How much help? And I don't think anything
59:29
happened this weekend. You've got to let it go to
59:31
court. And also Class 1 misdemeanors.
59:34
There's with Virginia Tech, there's 4 levels.
59:37
There can be a suspension, but usually it's a warning, some
59:42
sort of other disciplinary action.
59:44
Suspension is the 4th one on the list.
59:46
It is the highest one on the list for a misdemeanor.
59:48
And I know ADW is nothing to play around with.
59:52
That shit can get people killed and to what some of the other
59:57
people said, but we all have been young and done stupid shit
1:00:02
at some points in our life. I don't think he's going to be
1:00:05
suspended if they do anything. Maybe he don't play the first
1:00:07
series. That might be it this weekend.
1:00:10
Like we we took your captaincy away.
1:00:12
You're not going to play the first series.
1:00:14
You will not be out there and then put Thomas's thing up here
1:00:19
real quick. Brian.
1:00:19
I see it in the right corner. And we don't know quite this
1:00:23
yet. We don't know what it is, does
1:00:26
it? It does not make a difference.
1:00:28
But that might go down to like fleeting and stuff.
1:00:32
But I think he's playing and and people can, you know, try to get
1:00:36
on a high horse or something. But I think I know what Tally's
1:00:40
going to say a lot. I'm not going.
1:00:41
I'm going to leave that silent, Brian.
1:00:43
No, you say whatever you want to say.
1:00:44
Oh. No, no, no, no.
1:00:46
I know what Tally's going to say.
1:00:47
I know. What he's?
1:00:48
Going to say, I'm going to work around with what I know Tally's
1:00:50
going to say. What I'm going to say is this.
1:00:52
So when you look at a misdemeanor and when you look at
1:00:57
what we've seen historically happened with these at Virginia
1:01:01
Tech, but also when we look at A, at a grander scheme of how
1:01:03
these things kind of play out elsewhere, I don't think there's
1:01:07
a chance that he doesn't play in this game, whether he ends up
1:01:11
sitting at a series or a quarter or what we or whatever it may
1:01:15
be, that that would be the most I could foresee happening.
1:01:18
I think he plays in this game. I actually think he plays all
1:01:21
four quarters. And I think at some point this
1:01:24
season we, you might see some additional disciplinary that
1:01:27
results from, as Shelton said, the university process playing
1:01:31
out for this. But I I don't think we're going
1:01:34
to actually see punitive action taking from a playing time
1:01:38
standpoint. You got to let the justice
1:01:40
system do his job first before anything, because we don't we
1:01:45
beat the stupid. We be the stupid program that
1:01:48
he's going to sit the whole game and then they drop the charges
1:01:51
when he goes to court. And it'd be like, why'd you they
1:01:55
drop the charges? Why'd you wait down it?
1:01:58
Light it up. No, I mean, that's that's that's
1:02:00
what it is it it depends, man. Like there are some things that
1:02:05
a college student can get in, some things anybody can get in
1:02:09
that would warrant, Hey, I need you to be away from us.
1:02:12
You know what I'm saying? Some things that rhyme with
1:02:15
grape, stuff like that, any kind of, you know, harming somebody,
1:02:19
things like that. Now I'm not taking anything like
1:02:22
that. Somebody can get in as far as
1:02:25
legal action or legal, you know, ramifications, things like that.
1:02:28
But he's been asked 90 million times on here.
1:02:33
And then and then we got to address it because that's what
1:02:35
we do. We going to tell the truth on
1:02:36
here all the time. Whether you like it, whether you
1:02:39
don't like it, no matter who likes it.
1:02:42
Somebody posted on, on, on, on X today, Ricky Labeaux, the blue,
1:02:47
whatever his name is, he goes on there.
1:02:49
And no disrespect to him, I think he's a good guy.
1:02:51
I've had some interactions with him, but he goes on there and he
1:02:53
just goes in talking about if the coach has any spine, he
1:02:58
should do this. First of all, we don't come to
1:03:00
your fucking job and tell you what to do because I'm sure you
1:03:03
do some shit at your job is probably ain't right because I
1:03:05
know I do. So we don't go to nobody's job
1:03:08
and tell them what they should and shouldn't do, what it is.
1:03:10
You ain't got a spine. Balls too big, too little,
1:03:13
whatever. We ain't doing all that.
1:03:15
But this is what I can say. There are things that people try
1:03:20
to use football coaches to be more than football coaches.
1:03:25
There are some football coaches that are huge in people's lives,
1:03:30
and I'm not taking that away. This nowadays, more than
1:03:34
anything, is treated like a pro system.
1:03:38
There are that there's pro ramifications to what's going on
1:03:42
with these young men. You got to let the justice
1:03:46
system do their job. As an American, I've seen it
1:03:50
plenty of times where police pull somebody over, beats the
1:03:53
shit out of them, punches them through the window, shoots them,
1:03:56
whatever the case is. And I'm like, Dang, that looks
1:03:58
like it was bad. And then the first thing I see
1:04:01
on social media, somebody says, well, we don't know all of the
1:04:05
we don't know all of the details.
1:04:07
Let's figure out what's going on first before we make a decision
1:04:10
on this. And then on the other end, you
1:04:12
got these people that just want to, you know, throw some kind of
1:04:15
bait out and say, oh, this happened because it is.
1:04:18
We don't know the details. We don't know what the substance
1:04:20
was. We don't know exactly what
1:04:21
happened. Neither do I care.
1:04:24
All I know is number one, that ain't his daddy y'all talking
1:04:28
about. He should be the the do this.
1:04:31
And if he's trying to raise me and he ain't fucking raising
1:04:34
nobody, he's a football coach that ain't winning no games.
1:04:38
He has lost more games than he's won.
1:04:42
He better put the best players on the field and try to figure
1:04:44
out how to win. Taking the C away.
1:04:47
Great. Good job, Coach Pryor.
1:04:48
I don't blame you for that, but this is what I'll say.
1:04:51
You better put the best players on the field to try to beat
1:04:53
South Carolina because Shane Beamer going to be on your ass
1:04:57
and the rest of the fan base going to be on your ass.
1:04:58
So if you sit him because of that, you might as well sit
1:05:02
yourself because you're going to put yourself in a position to
1:05:04
lose. Back to what we talking about
1:05:06
with Caleb. Now back to that situation, fans
1:05:11
got to calm down. This happens all over.
1:05:13
Not saying that it's right, but I've heard from some really,
1:05:16
really good sources that there's some investigations being
1:05:19
launched about how that stop went down.
1:05:22
So they're targeting those kids. They're going to do that because
1:05:27
you got kids in Blacksburg driving $90,000 cars, $60,000
1:05:32
cars. There's some police.
1:05:35
I heard he wasn't even from there.
1:05:36
I heard he was from 30 miles away, but whatever.
1:05:38
Again, I'm a dude in Alabama. I don't know nothing there.
1:05:42
You got some people. And I'm not saying that it's
1:05:43
racism. Sometimes it's placism, like if
1:05:46
I'm a salesperson, which I am, and a new salesperson comes in
1:05:51
and they are getting paid more than me, I'm going to be a
1:05:53
little salty. You know what I'm saying?
1:05:55
So a lot of times these cops look at these kids to come in,
1:05:58
they know they're getting NIL deals.
1:06:00
They seeing what they driving these bins is these hellcats and
1:06:05
things like that, and they got a problem with it.
1:06:07
So they going to target them, they going to follow them.
1:06:09
Not making any excuses for anything a kid does.
1:06:13
You got to be held responsible for what you do.
1:06:15
That's why we have a legal system.
1:06:17
Ricky, you ain't the legal system.
1:06:19
Calm. You're nuts, buddy.
1:06:21
Sunday is going to be a game on. Watch the game.
1:06:24
If you want to protest watching the game because somebody's
1:06:26
playing, protest. Go watch tennis.
1:06:29
They play tennis sometime, too. I live by a pickleball court.
1:06:33
It'd be a lot of people out there playing pickleball.
1:06:35
Go watch them play. I'm just saying, man, that's how
1:06:38
I feel. I had to get my rent out.
1:06:40
I feel better. Curtis, reel me back in.
1:06:43
I know I had to let you go because what you said the, the,
1:06:47
the statement you made about where football coaches nowadays
1:06:50
are, they're not. Some are father figures, you're
1:06:53
right. Some are.
1:06:54
Some really are. Some want to do things.
1:06:56
But to your point, it is now a bigger game.
1:07:00
It's about money. It's about it's like, like like
1:07:03
you said, college football is no longer collegiate.
1:07:06
College football and basketball are professional sports teams.
1:07:10
You don't see the head coach running out in NBA or the NFL,
1:07:15
right? To your point, he's got people
1:07:18
out there he's got to lean on and I think he's got to learn a
1:07:21
lesson from this. And I think the Cabinet sees one
1:07:23
thing, I think probably going to courts going to be another one,
1:07:26
so. When we think about it from a
1:07:28
professional standpoint in the NFL, they don't preemptively.
1:07:33
Hell no. Unless.
1:07:34
You got to be convicted. Unless the deed is very crucial
1:07:39
like Tally. Was I?
1:07:40
Got a good they don't. Preemptively put somebody.
1:07:42
On a bench. I got a great question for you,
1:07:44
Sheldon. I know you might be a little
1:07:45
young on this, but you do your research, so you probably know.
1:07:50
I think Bobby had a spine. Bobby had a pretty good spine.
1:07:54
He didn't make Peter sit down. Did he make Peter sit down?
1:07:57
Peter was stealing that shit out of the store, wasn't he?
1:08:00
Or getting it for free. Somebody was giving it to him.
1:08:03
Did he? Did he make him sit?
1:08:05
Or did he play in the game? And whoop my ass by yourself?
1:08:09
I'm just asking. If it weren't for him, things
1:08:12
have been different. If he had a spine, if we go by
1:08:16
what was on X and he had a spine and we make him sit, we pay.
1:08:22
History might be different, you know what I'm saying?
1:08:25
We might be with this curse, might be gone.
1:08:28
I'm just saying hey, sometimes, sometimes you got to do what you
1:08:32
got to do to win. Have y'all watched?
1:08:33
The mid game run that Mike had, I mean that might that might
1:08:36
have been enough to seal it without Peter coming back and
1:08:39
doing his thing. Have y'all ever watched the game
1:08:41
the movie Blue Chips? Oh yeah.
1:08:43
Chad, I know y'all. I know y'all.
1:08:44
Have. Oh, stop.
1:08:46
Hold on. Sheldon's never seen it.
1:08:48
Shelton, you go to bed or what are you doing tomorrow?
1:08:51
You need to take two hours of your time and watch Blue Chips.
1:08:54
Blue Chips Man 30. Three years ago.
1:08:57
Great movie. OK.
1:09:01
Yeah, and I will say I, I, I agree with Ricky in theory.
1:09:05
I would like to live in a world where athletes dealt with
1:09:07
consequences just like regular people do.
1:09:09
But that's not the world we live in.
1:09:11
And so you're just going to play by play by all the rules that
1:09:14
everyone else is playing by. So.
1:09:16
Yeah, at that point if. Everybody else is cheating.
1:09:18
You might as well cheat too. That's.
1:09:19
Kind of. But it's got to be if we're
1:09:22
dealing with rules, let's deal with them how everybody else
1:09:25
deals with them. The justice system should handle
1:09:27
it, right? All of the everything has to
1:09:30
come out. Let's figure out what's going
1:09:32
on. 1st. Did we plant something in the
1:09:34
car? Was he on the edible?
1:09:36
Did he smoke a little weed? Did he drink a beer?
1:09:40
Guess what, we don't know. So fuck it, let's wait till we
1:09:44
know before we find out there. You go all right real quick.
1:09:47
I want y'all to give me one tell you truth on the depth chart
1:09:52
that whether you feel good about it, bad about it, won't prepared
1:09:56
for it or or or what we're not going to do what we can do
1:10:00
better next because we figure out that next week with this
1:10:02
shit that with the depth chart. I was not prepared for Montavius
1:10:05
Cunningham at right tackle. I'm going to jump out right out
1:10:08
the gate and let you know I was not prepared for Montavius
1:10:14
Cunningham at right tackle. I don't hate it, but I was very
1:10:17
much not prepared for it. So I will say that one.
1:10:21
I agreed. Agreed.
1:10:23
Although that tape we saw from two years ago against LSU, it
1:10:29
was like that kid can play right tackle.
1:10:31
That's why I said I don't hate it.
1:10:32
I, I, and I'll piggyback on that, I hope I'm not taking
1:10:35
anybody's not seeing Muskrat in any of those two deeps at the AT
1:10:40
offensive line also swings me in the other direction.
1:10:44
The musty rat. All right, Sheldon, what about
1:10:47
you? Feel good, feel bad Shot.
1:10:52
I don't know. It's hard to tell with how many
1:10:54
ORS there are in the in the chat.
1:10:57
I mean, I don't know. I feel like they they
1:10:58
intentionally tried to be as ambiguous as possible.
1:11:02
I don't know. I mean defensive, defensive end.
1:11:06
I mean, I feel like John can we kind of knew he'd be a starter.
1:11:09
It seemed like Arias Nash wasn't quite as I guess maybe
1:11:14
productive as it would have, would have you know, liked.
1:11:16
So he's a little bit a little bit further down.
1:11:19
Bell and Burgos will be an interesting battle.
1:11:21
I've been pretty high on Ben Bell from what from just from
1:11:22
what I heard at camp, but it seems like Burgos is kind of
1:11:25
challenging him as well. So I think I think that'll be
1:11:28
interesting. I think there's a lot of there's
1:11:30
a lot of like, you know, really solid, but no like true elite
1:11:33
standouts on the on the defensive line.
1:11:35
So I feel like I'm just interested to see kind of how
1:11:37
that battle plays out because I think they've got some pretty
1:11:39
good depth. They're much more than they had
1:11:40
last year, but no like true bona fide star, like an APR.
1:11:43
So I'm interested to see that. Anything shocked made you happy
1:11:48
made you sad made. Man, you know how to, you know
1:11:50
how to depth charts be. I'll be finding it.
1:11:53
I'll be finding it humorous. Like Josh said, man, they was
1:11:56
rowing a boat with all them ORS. They was in the canoe with so
1:11:59
many ORS in that running back room.
1:12:01
It was ORS everywhere. I'm like, what is him or him or
1:12:07
him? They don't know, man.
1:12:09
They just put the stuff out there.
1:12:11
Y'all want a depth chart? I feel like the coaches got a
1:12:13
sense of humor. They like y'all know what?
1:12:15
Yeah, they they want a depth chart.
1:12:16
Watch this. Watch this.
1:12:18
Let's just put it out there so we don't know who.
1:12:21
Only thing I know about the depth chart is that if he's
1:12:24
healthy, which I think he is, Kyron Drones is the starting
1:12:27
quarterback. Everything else is subjective.
1:12:30
I don't know. I don't know nothing.
1:12:32
So I'll say this, the, the, the, the right and the Rimac and
1:12:36
Cunningham switch had because everything we heard and
1:12:40
remember, we had, we had DC on here six days ago.
1:12:42
Cunningham, who'd seen that stuff in person was like, every
1:12:45
time we've seen it, Rimac's been it, right?
1:12:48
Cunningham's been. Asked the question now, we asked
1:12:50
the question in a different context.
1:12:52
We were asking whether they were, you know, the tackles were
1:12:54
swapped. We didn't realize that the guard
1:12:57
and the tackle were getting. The guard and the tackle were
1:12:58
swapped. Curtis, you got some people.
1:13:02
I was going to say, yeah, you got a lot of people asking and
1:13:05
talking about Selden. What you think about that?
1:13:07
Well, the whole thing we got to think about what we're going to
1:13:11
if if Montgomery has even 65% of the way he used to run tempo,
1:13:18
everybody that's on that starting wide receiver depth
1:13:21
chart, they're going to be in there because we're going to be
1:13:24
running tempo. We're going to be running fast.
1:13:26
You got him as the slot back up and Takihi, we know Heath is a
1:13:31
gadget guy a little smaller, sells the exact opposite of him.
1:13:34
Yeah, sells huge. So I'm with you.
1:13:38
Like some of it just don't matter.
1:13:40
Some of it they just mess it with the song.
1:13:42
Now I'll say this. What did catch my eye and I
1:13:45
thought to Brian about it was go to defensive end and Bell and
1:13:50
Burgos and and Yonko. Not shocking, right, right.
1:13:54
Elijah Fall the transfer portal guy Elijah falls not your
1:13:58
typical defensive end. Elijah falls 63288.
1:14:03
That's a that is saying we're there's going to be some three
1:14:06
man fronts and he's probably going to be running the base in
1:14:10
or they're going to be something.
1:14:11
What is it? Brian running like 2 eyes and
1:14:14
he'll play directly over a tackle as A5 tech and then let
1:14:19
junk them because they we've been hearing Ben Beller and
1:14:22
Virgos. There's two guys standing up a
1:14:24
lot. There's two guys always standing
1:14:26
up. Sometimes Ian has the fan of the
1:14:28
dirt. I think I see that.
1:14:31
But as far as everything else goes, it's like like people are
1:14:35
saying, it's a good thing to have, gives us something to talk
1:14:38
about. Yeah.
1:14:39
And I mean, we still don't know, you know, exactly what, at least
1:14:43
against South Carolina, what what base front we're going to
1:14:46
come out in. I think we kind of assume it's
1:14:50
going to be some variation of a of an even front, but to be
1:14:55
determined. Well, I'll say this though, what
1:14:59
I'll go. Ahead, I'm putting this up,
1:15:01
Randy. The first was a speeding ticket.
1:15:03
Yeah, you can have a reckless driving speeding ticket.
1:15:06
That's not a second offense, DWI.
1:15:08
That's completely different. Completely different.
1:15:12
So no, Josh said. Josh said he was surprised to
1:15:14
see Takai, but he knows he's a ball if he's healthy.
1:15:18
I ain't gonna say I was surprised, but exactly right,
1:15:21
Josh. Like I wouldn't the game last
1:15:25
year at Vanderbilt and I kept saying and I was singing it from
1:15:29
the mountaintops, like why can we not get this kid the ball?
1:15:33
He was so much quicker and faster than the rest of the wide
1:15:36
receivers that were on the field.
1:15:38
I would say probably Jay Lane was the only one that kind of
1:15:42
had the same twitch as I did see Takei have.
1:15:47
But again, things happen during the year, people get banged up.
1:15:51
I think he thought about leaving the team for a little while or
1:15:55
maybe did leave the team for a little while.
1:15:57
But whatever the case is, they've said he's had a great
1:16:01
fall and he's he's a, he's a talented player.
1:16:03
I just hope that this year he he puts it together and it's very
1:16:07
frustrating to a player that you know your ability and you know
1:16:10
what you can do and you're on a team that is not producing, not
1:16:15
winning. I say that and you can't get on
1:16:17
the field. So a lot of times these kids or
1:16:20
these young men get frustrated and you know, they either going
1:16:24
to pursue other opportunities or they want to know why I'm not on
1:16:28
that. So I was asking the same thing
1:16:31
last year, but I'm excited to see Heath get in the in the mix.
1:16:36
I hope that we get to see what he can do because I really think
1:16:41
that we haven't seen somebody in a phone booth like him.
1:16:46
You know what I'm saying? We had a couple of wide
1:16:48
receivers that were really good wide receivers last year.
1:16:50
But I think that him getting off the line and I kept seeing him
1:16:54
put him in motion and I'm like, man, he's fast.
1:16:57
But we just never got to see that translate to even a play.
1:17:02
I don't even say a big play to a play.
1:17:04
So Josh, great, great look when you when you talked about him
1:17:08
being that slot because I didn't even think about that.
1:17:10
But I guess that's probably what I was surprised that just that
1:17:14
he was listed there, but I'm excited that he's listed there.
1:17:19
Lovett is effectively starter is, as is Caleb Brown.
1:17:25
You know what? And some of this shit might be
1:17:27
there to motivate people. Like they may know, like, yeah,
1:17:29
I'm I'm the one. It's like, you know, you ain't
1:17:32
nothing yet. We ain't played a game yet.
1:17:34
All right, one thing before we turn on, we're going to get into
1:17:36
Hokie Keys next and then make our predictions.
1:17:39
One thing I was so happy to see because I do not think this is a
1:17:42
lie. Tucker Holloway punt return that
1:17:44
man Dangerous. Well, yeah, Tucker's good,
1:17:47
dangerous. Hate it when he went down last
1:17:49
year. So to see him back out there,
1:17:51
man, he's he's to say that he is more special to me now.
1:17:56
No disrespect to Jay Lane because Jay Lane was a very,
1:17:58
very good player. Think he's going to have a long
1:18:00
NFL career. Tucker being at punt return,
1:18:04
it's special. He's just, he's just a different
1:18:07
type of punt returner, you know what I'm saying?
1:18:09
Kind of fearless back there. Just works hard, has the long
1:18:13
strides when he runs and you go back and watch, what was it,
1:18:16
Georgia Tech, that he took one back?
1:18:18
Is that the game somewhere around there anyway?
1:18:21
Not last year, yeah, before last.
1:18:22
But anyway, seeing Tucker back in that punt return, in that
1:18:26
returning position, think it helps us out a little bit.
1:18:30
You look at punt returning, so like Jay Lane was the guy that's
1:18:35
going to break that first tackle and then run away from people.
1:18:39
I feel like Tucker, he's got that kind of vision and kind of
1:18:44
sees how things are set up and just knows exactly where to go.
1:18:48
And then that's where his talent is.
1:18:49
And like you said, Tally, once he gets that, that acceleration
1:18:52
up, he's got those long strides and it's hard to catch him at
1:18:55
that point. Percent all right, so let's flip
1:18:59
off here. Appreciate y'all all the
1:19:00
comments in there, but we do need to talk about what we feel
1:19:04
are going to be to the keys of the game from the Hokie side and
1:19:11
Sheldon just goes Sheldon goes quiet of time.
1:19:13
So Sheldon, you get to kick us off.
1:19:15
What is going to be the key for the Hokies to pull the wind?
1:19:18
Yeah. So I said for me, I said protect
1:19:21
drones, you know, specifically with regards to trying to limit,
1:19:26
you know what, what Stewart can do again, we talked about, you
1:19:29
know, his pass rush numbers, 51 Kiwi pressures last year.
1:19:33
That was fourth SEC and of the top six SEC pass rush pressure
1:19:39
guys, five of them are now in the NFL.
1:19:43
Obviously Stuart being the one exception.
1:19:45
So this is a bona fide legit NFL talent.
1:19:46
He's going to be going up against, as you said, Montavas
1:19:48
Cunningham, who again, we have we didn't see last year.
1:19:51
So we don't know what he is capable of.
1:19:53
I'm a little bit more concerned about the left side of the line
1:19:55
than I am the right side of the line.
1:19:56
But still, I just I have some concerns about their ability to
1:20:00
protect Kyron. I feel like if, you know, we
1:20:02
saw, we saw last year with, you know, Karen, but constantly, you
1:20:05
know, under pressure, seeing ghosts, you know, potentially
1:20:08
getting hurt, I just think that's a bad, bad thing.
1:20:11
You know, my biggest thing is pass protection, keep him
1:20:13
protected in the pocket so he can make some throws and
1:20:15
scramble out there and get some get some runs in.
1:20:19
Cali. Yeah, no, what Sheldon said is,
1:20:21
is really good. I don't, I don't even think I
1:20:23
hit on this when they were talking about it earlier, but
1:20:28
Karen is, is a lot like or whichever one's older him and
1:20:33
sellers are very much alike. So how excited they are about
1:20:37
Sellers? I'm as excited about Kyron
1:20:41
because I've seen his potential. You know, I know what his
1:20:43
ceiling is. I don't want to say I know what
1:20:45
ceiling. I know what can be, which is the
1:20:47
NFL guy. I feel like Sellers can be an
1:20:49
NFL guy. I don't know where he goes.
1:20:52
Kyron can be that as well. But it's all about protection.
1:20:55
It's about sometimes if you do have a lack of talent in certain
1:21:01
positions, you have to coach that talent that you do have up.
1:21:05
So it's going to come down to two people coaching, 2 Staffs
1:21:10
coaching and that's why I say my key to victory is going to be
1:21:14
management and time management and adjustments.
1:21:19
I think Tim talked about that a little bit when he talked about
1:21:22
their DC maybe taking a little too long to adjust.
1:21:26
Well, we had ADC that didn't adjust at all in the
1:21:29
second-half, so we made an adjustment and got rid of him.
1:21:34
Thank the Lord couple of people are gone.
1:21:36
So I'm hoping that this staff, it does a much better job with
1:21:41
the time management and their adjustments.
1:21:44
Because to beat A-Team, even if you're punching a little bit
1:21:47
above your weight class, you got to do some things strategically.
1:21:52
It doesn't always have to be talent against talent.
1:21:54
You know, talent does wins you some games, but coaching wins
1:21:58
you some games as well. Pry has to prove that he's the
1:22:03
guy. This is a game that he can prove
1:22:05
it. He was close against a, you
1:22:07
know, a couple of people that Miami game.
1:22:09
If he takes that game, that's a signature win for him.
1:22:13
If he wins a game like this, it's a signature win for him.
1:22:16
He needs that for him. You know what I'm saying?
1:22:19
Because if, if, if pride doesn't make this work.
1:22:23
And I'm, I know I'm not trying to go too far, but if pride
1:22:25
doesn't make this work this year, what does he go?
1:22:28
You know what I'm saying? Like if, if, if he doesn't make
1:22:31
this work and then he doesn't, you know, put together a good
1:22:34
like his resume doesn't look good.
1:22:36
Who hires him? The school of the blind and
1:22:40
deaf. I mean, where's he, where's he
1:22:45
where? Seriously?
1:22:46
Like, where does he go from Virginia Tech if he doesn't make
1:22:49
this work? Because what we talk about and
1:22:51
what Virginia Tech fans know of him, the rest of the football
1:22:56
world knows as well. Look at Justin Fuente.
1:22:58
Yeah, he got paid, but he still ain't no head coach no more.
1:23:00
And I mean, once you've been a head coach, I feel like you want
1:23:03
to be a head coach, you know what I'm saying?
1:23:05
Maybe he doesn't, but I don't know who.
1:23:07
Let's probably be a head coach if he doesn't make this work.
1:23:10
And I think he has the ability to be a head coach, but he has
1:23:13
to prove it, starting with that. Time management, my boy, you
1:23:16
better get that time management right.
1:23:18
Use them timeouts, right. Call Shelton if y'all don't know
1:23:21
what the the time frame is. I mean, he owns.
1:23:25
The chart. He got the chart.
1:23:27
College, Bryan, is it? Bryan going to.
1:23:33
Tell us, I'll talk next. Let let's let's have a little
1:23:35
conversation. So picture this, it's last year.
1:23:39
It's late August. You know, you're in Nashville.
1:23:43
You you've been drinking a couple days.
1:23:45
You've been having a good time. You go to this this stadium and
1:23:49
it's it's hot. It's hot as hell.
1:23:51
And you're sitting there and all of a sudden you come out and you
1:23:53
see your team and the offense goes up there and it doesn't
1:23:56
really look like the offense that you expected.
1:24:00
And, and, and, and you, you kind of scratching your head like,
1:24:02
what the hell are we doing? So my key, don't be something
1:24:06
you're not, don't, don't go out there and try to be something
1:24:10
you're not. Play to your strengths as an
1:24:13
offense. Play to your strengths as a team
1:24:16
and let the chips fall where where they may.
1:24:18
I mean, I, I think they are, you know, top to bottom a more
1:24:22
talented team, but that doesn't always matter, especially week
1:24:25
1, especially when you got 2 new coordinators that they can't
1:24:27
really prepare for. So don't be something you're
1:24:31
not. Play to your strengths and let
1:24:33
the chips fall where they may. You may should have went last
1:24:36
because that was better. I went to analytical, my first
1:24:40
one because I talked about him with with Tim, you got to
1:24:45
neutralize Kilgore. That kid can pick balls off.
1:24:48
He can make tackles. Don't make him part of their
1:24:52
game. Basically get rid of him.
1:24:54
And I know some people say Stewart, well, you know what
1:24:57
Stewart is like, It's you can run away from him, run at him.
1:25:01
You can do some things there. But with this kid, he's playing
1:25:04
the nickel. Avoid him, avoid running to his
1:25:07
side. The second one is this, and for
1:25:12
them last year, turnovers were a big thing.
1:25:14
In their nine wins, they were like plus 16.
1:25:19
In their losses, they were -5 basically they lost the turnover
1:25:25
differential in every single game they lost last year.
1:25:30
And I think for the Hokies to win, it cannot be on the plus
1:25:33
side. If it's the plus side it's a 2
1:25:35
score win for them. If it's even we got a punchers
1:25:39
chance if we can just steal one possession once.
1:25:45
If we steal 2 that's when you start getting into the good shit
1:25:48
because you start stealing 2 possessions.
1:25:50
OK how much when the turnover battle?
1:25:54
Because in the games they lost, that was a struggle for them.
1:26:01
They made those turnovers, they lost possessions, and they lost
1:26:03
some close games. Last year, they got blown out by
1:26:05
Ole Miss. The other three games they lost
1:26:07
were very close games. And I'll be honest, SEC fucking
1:26:13
gave LSU that game last year, LSU, they gave LSU that game
1:26:18
down South Carolina straight up. So that's mine.
1:26:22
All right, Well, we come to the well, almost the end, but we now
1:26:25
got to make our picks. Who wants to go first?
1:26:30
I'll go first in Prof fashion. close game.
1:26:35
South Carolina gets to win. I got 2128.
1:26:39
Got to be 1 score. One score game, I got it.
1:26:41
That's what I got. What about you, Sheldon?
1:26:46
Yeah, I'm going to go 3124 Cox, but I'm actually I'm actually
1:26:50
going to go back door cover or well, I don't know if it's a
1:26:54
cover, but it's going to be a back door one score loss, which
1:26:56
would be very unfortunate, but I just.
1:26:58
Feel like that? Don't score the last touch.
1:27:01
Yeah, yeah, I'll. Prize out there?
1:27:03
No, no, Neil. Neil.
1:27:06
Yeah, yeah. So I don't know it'll be it'll
1:27:08
be tight game, lots of unknowns on both sides.
1:27:11
But I think sellers is probably the the difference maker in this
1:27:14
one. All righty.
1:27:18
I'm sorry. Your turn, Sir.
1:27:20
My turn all right, I'm going to do it.
1:27:24
We're going to do a bit all right, so this is the bit until
1:27:27
Prow wins A1 score game. Every fucking prediction that
1:27:30
I'm going to have on here that's against the power 4 opponent is
1:27:34
going to be a one score loss for the Hokies.
1:27:36
So I've got 3330 Cox in this one.
1:27:39
OK. 3330 Cox I am also I am also I have also picked in South
1:27:51
Carolina 3324 He will not lose the one that she came to them.
1:27:59
It will be the one point above it and the way I like my my, my
1:28:03
head keeps playing it out like I think late game it's going to
1:28:08
be, I think it's going to be AI think, I think what Cephas does
1:28:12
and what Montgomery does are going to keep us in it.
1:28:14
I do think what Brian mentioned about them being just a little
1:28:18
bit deeper, I think they're going to hold on late.
1:28:21
It's going to be like 4 minutes left.
1:28:23
Shane's don't kick the field goal.
1:28:25
We go up 9 and we aren't going to back door cover shelter.
1:28:29
We're not going to do that. We're going, we're going.
1:28:31
We're just not so. Yeah, so.
1:28:34
Well, let me let me say this right quick before we go to the
1:28:37
next bit. You see Randy's?
1:28:39
Randy's. Which one?
1:28:42
Post there where he says if Penn State moves on from from James
1:28:45
Franklin. James Franklin.
1:28:47
Well, I ain't worried about that.
1:28:48
I just want to see. Just show the fact that he
1:28:50
called us Holies. Randy, you can't call us Holies
1:28:54
when we playing the Cox Holies. The Cox ain't going to work
1:28:58
good, my boy. You got to put that K in there.
1:29:02
That K is pivotal in this point right here.
1:29:06
Any other week might have let it slide.
1:29:08
Autocorrect is whipping Randy's ass right now.
1:29:11
We didn't. Know, Randy, we can't.
1:29:14
We can't beat up by the way. By the way, something we did not
1:29:17
well, it happened after we got off last week.
1:29:21
Randy King, former Roanoke Times writer passed away and it and
1:29:25
they played the video you saw that did you see a Shelton?
1:29:28
They played the Corey Moore video because Corey Moore loved
1:29:31
Randy King to death. Hey, how you doing Randy after
1:29:36
he's dropping F bombs on every national reporter Damage to?
1:29:39
A man with everybody. Great attack.
1:29:41
And how you doing Randy? How you doing, Randy?
1:29:44
Sounds great. All right, well, that's our
1:29:46
predictions. I'd love to see y'all.
1:29:48
I know there's one in the chat. Let's put it up here.
1:29:51
All right. Hey, Chris.
1:29:53
Hey, good, Chris. How are we doing?
1:29:57
Chris saying loves him kick a late field goal to give us a
1:29:59
full touchdown win all right I like that all righty as usual
1:30:04
y'all in this college football season.
1:30:06
We will be watching our beloved Hokies all season, but we
1:30:10
partake in things, we watch other games and we always pick
1:30:15
the big Screener that intrigues us.
1:30:18
And yes, there is a game you're not going to see on here this
1:30:21
week, so don't be shocked by it. A Because that line's all shitty
1:30:26
and anytime it's a pick em game, it ain't fun to really pick.
1:30:29
But we've all got our games that we got to focus on and it is
1:30:33
very ACC flavored because we are scheduled to play three of these
1:30:38
four teams and I'm starting with the first one and we're going to
1:30:44
Boulder Friday night. Georgia Tech who is every they
1:30:49
are Virginia Tech this year in the ACC what we were last year,
1:30:53
people got them all dark force. They could win 11 games.
1:30:57
OK, cool. Well, they're going out to
1:30:59
Boulder and they are A5 point favorite on the road elevation
1:31:05
change. Dionne probably got something to
1:31:08
prove without without Shidur back there.
1:31:12
I don't know who's going to win the game, but if you give me a
1:31:15
home dog with more than three points, I will take it all day
1:31:19
long. Give me Colorado, Shelton, what
1:31:23
do you got for this one? Yes, I'm checking GTI.
1:31:30
Honestly don't really know why too many too many unknowns with
1:31:34
Colorado is probably the probably the biggest thing.
1:31:38
But yeah, I just I'd like I like I I really like bring Pi think
1:31:42
he's I think he's made of the right stuff.
1:31:43
But it is interesting you bring up the point of like, you know,
1:31:46
this kind of like the BTC from last year, like will Georgia
1:31:49
Tech have a similar, you know, underperformance or regression
1:31:52
that, you know, we saw with BT? So just interest says you that.
1:31:57
Callum. Georgia Tech.
1:32:02
I'll tell you why after I picked a couple other games, but
1:32:05
Georgia Tech. There we go.
1:32:09
Brian. I'm going to go with, with
1:32:11
Colorado here. I'm kind of with Curtis on, you
1:32:15
know, I mean, Dion's coming off a cancer scare.
1:32:17
He doesn't have Shudur. Like he's got a lot to prove in
1:32:20
in this year. I think he's going to have them
1:32:23
ready to play. And with the altitude change,
1:32:27
you know, Georgia Tech probably top to bottom on that roster,
1:32:31
probably better. I like, I like what what Brent
1:32:33
he brings to the table, but I think there's just too many
1:32:36
other factors at play in this one for that five line at home
1:32:40
for Colorado. All right, who's next?
1:32:47
Tally, Tally lead us all. Alabama and Florida State
1:32:52
Castellano's been doing a lot of talking.
1:32:57
You know, Alabama's in the second year with their head
1:33:00
coach after the GOAT has retired.
1:33:04
I am saying, though, Florida State is going to cover.
1:33:08
Think they're going to lose, but I think they're going to cover
1:33:11
now. I'll tell you why did I say
1:33:13
that? The same reason I said the first
1:33:15
one, because we play Georgia Tech and we play Florida State.
1:33:19
Both of those teams are going to look good in the first week.
1:33:22
So I have to hear about how bad they're going to kill us.
1:33:26
That's what I'm going to hear the first week.
1:33:27
Any team that we play is going to look good or compensated and
1:33:31
they're going to say, man, when we play them, they're going to
1:33:33
kill us. That's what I'm going to hear on
1:33:34
on X all freaking week. Florida State's going to
1:33:38
probably lose by 7 points close game.
1:33:41
And then people's going to talk about how Florida State's back
1:33:44
and they also Georgia Tech's going to go out there and whoop
1:33:48
Colorado and people going to talk about how they win in the
1:33:50
ACC. That's what happened here all
1:33:52
week. So hey.
1:33:55
Tally. I love it.
1:33:56
I love it, Brian. I've got Alabama in this one.
1:34:01
I I really don't think Florida State puts the pieces back
1:34:04
together. I definitely don't think they
1:34:06
put them back together week one against Alabama.
1:34:10
I don't care if it's in Tallahassee.
1:34:13
I I don't care about these other factors.
1:34:15
I think Alabama's going to take care of business.
1:34:16
It's not going to be, it's not going to be a huge, huge win,
1:34:20
but I think it's going to be be those two scores that they need
1:34:22
to take care of it. All righty.
1:34:27
I'm kind of with Tally on this one, by the way, Big screen is
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presented by Moments on the Mor, our wonderful sponsor, I think.
1:34:35
I thought she's going to cover. I think it's going to be a much
1:34:37
tighter game than people think. I think it Castellanos hadn't
1:34:41
ran his damn mouth so much they might could have pulled the the
1:34:45
dub. But I think I think you're
1:34:48
right, Ally. I think pegging this game is
1:34:50
somewhere like a touchdown game. And is it cut late or is it you
1:34:55
know, Bama just holds late? I think 13 has to and again it
1:35:00
is a home dog, home dog land 13 and a half Shelton.
1:35:09
Yeah, I'm going to take a slight MSU cover.
1:35:11
I would have if this game was played under Dick Saban, I
1:35:13
probably would have taken Bema 10 out of 10 times.
1:35:15
But I just not the same team, not the same program.
1:35:19
And I do think people are probably under selling FSUA
1:35:21
little bit. So I'll take I'll take FSU a
1:35:23
slight cover. All right, Shelton, you're up
1:35:25
next. Yeah, so I went with Notre Dame,
1:35:28
Miami. Interesting matchup.
1:35:30
Carson Beck making his Kane's debut against the the reigning.
1:35:34
Well, I guess CFP runner up from last year for this one, I went
1:35:40
with Notre Dame. I just trust Freeman a little
1:35:44
bit more and I don't exactly know what what we really have in
1:35:46
Carson back given that he was obviously playing for really
1:35:49
talented team last year they lost some weapons.
1:35:51
So I'm a little bit more confident in Notre Dame than
1:35:54
they in Miami. Kelly.
1:35:58
Yeah, I'm taking Notre Dame as well.
1:36:00
Like Sheldon said, I kind of just trust Freeman a little bit
1:36:03
more than I trust Miami. I've started to go with my same
1:36:08
logic as I use with the other teams, but that that line so
1:36:11
close, it's almost to pick them so they can still look good and
1:36:15
people going to talk about how they going to kill us too.
1:36:16
But Notre Dame, I think taking this one.
1:36:22
I guess that leaves me up next. I'm taking Miami here and it's
1:36:28
really this is all about line. I I think there's going to be
1:36:33
some solid play on both both teams here.
1:36:36
But you know, 2 1/2 home dog. I'm I'm going to go with that in
1:36:39
in this instance here. I I think they're just too
1:36:41
evenly matched overall for to go any other direction.
1:36:46
Yeah, and, and I'm the same way. Give me a give me the, give me
1:36:49
the underdog at home and just I feel like.
1:36:54
CJ Carr got. You know, is the quarterback at
1:36:56
Notre Dame? I just, I think Riley Leonard
1:36:59
was just a perfect piece for them last year.
1:37:02
Tough runner, smart kid. And I don't know, can you can
1:37:06
you recreate magic 2 times in a way in a row?
1:37:11
So yeah, I, I, I think, I don't know who wins.
1:37:13
I think the whole thing is I just want to be enjoying this
1:37:16
game with a victory beer on Sunday night.
1:37:20
Me. Too.
1:37:23
Because if not it's I'm going to be in a pissy ass mood till at
1:37:27
least half. Time.
1:37:28
I'm with you. I've got you.
1:37:30
Ron, you got the last one where we go.
1:37:34
We're so we, we've got the, the Tigers of Death Valley Bowl
1:37:36
here. We got LSU, Clemson, Clemson,
1:37:43
you know -4 at home there. I, I'm riding with it.
1:37:47
I, I feel like this is a program that I think is kind of put the
1:37:51
pieces back together a little bit.
1:37:53
And I think this might be a, a year where they can make a
1:37:56
little bit of a run. So give me Clemson in this one
1:38:00
down there at their home stadium, the other Death Valley.
1:38:05
Yep I'm I'm taking Clemson as well.
1:38:07
I'll lay the four points. Clemson wins by 7.
1:38:10
Good game on Saturday night. Look forward to getting comfy
1:38:14
and watching it, not be in a pissy mood.
1:38:18
Yeah, I saw, I saw a stat the other day that LSU has I think
1:38:21
has lost four or five straight season openers.
1:38:24
So for no reason, Brian Kelly just does not have his A game,
1:38:27
the season opener. So I think I'll take Clemson.
1:38:30
I like their coaching staff just a little bit better.
1:38:33
I just like to cause controversy so I say LSU.
1:38:36
No reason why besides that. Just want to be different and be
1:38:40
wrong. He wanted to be different.
1:38:41
He is born of the tiger Eye underneath his name.
1:38:44
Yeah, Tiger Eye. Well fellas, we got to the end
1:38:48
of the first episode of the season.
1:38:50
Hey, we're back. We're back, baby. 11/15 11:15
1:38:55
Shelton's about to go out. As soon as I have him read his
1:38:59
name, he's probably going to be like, y'all, I'm going to bed.
1:39:02
Y'all were crazy standing up at 11.
1:39:03
O'clock, I'm waiting. I ain't far behind.
1:39:06
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