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- 0:09Is there anything worse than the dull blade?
- 0:11Yeah, well, lots of things, I guess.
- 0:14Poverty, war, having to say goodbye to two recent graduates
- 0:20even though it's a good thing that they're going home.
- 0:23Goodbye. Lion, you know, I know it isn't
- 0:26right, but I'm going to miss the way you used to holler for help
- 0:30before you found your courage. I would never have found it if
- 0:34it hasn't been for you. Seriously, though, a dope blade
- 0:37is bad. It's unusable.
- 0:40In fact, it's downright dangerous.
- 0:43Knives need sharpening. From Whetstone Boys Ranch in
- 0:47Mountain View, MO, comes a Time to Sharpen, a biweekly podcast
- 0:51that examines how we can all be better versions of ourselves.
- 0:55Better counselors, better teachers, better parents, better
- 1:00people. In this third installment of
- 1:05FAQs, we're going to dig into some of the practical details
- 1:08that matter a lot. What life at Whetstone actually
- 1:11feels like day-to-day, how structure and freedom work
- 1:14together, what growth usually looks like, and why change
- 1:18rarely happens all at once. Join us this week on a table to
- 1:22Sharpen as we offer a clearer picture of life at Whetstone
- 1:25without the sales pitch, the buzzwords or the magic beans
- 1:28version of change. Just honest conversation, a
- 1:32little perspective and a few straight answers from two guys
- 1:35who live this work every day. Welcome back to a time to
- 1:41Sharpen. This is Axel Limata.
- 1:43I'm here with Brandon Maxwell again.
- 1:46Again. Hey, Brandon.
- 1:47Hey man, How's it? Going It's going good.
- 1:49In fact, it's going to need to go kind of quick today because I
- 1:53have an appointment in West Plains at 4:00, have a guitar
- 1:56lesson with my son, which is great.
- 1:59Oh, that's cool. Yeah.
- 2:00So Asher has been. Asher's been learning.
- 2:03Picking it up. Yeah, pick a picking and a
- 2:05grinning, that kind of thing. And yeah, he's got nice long
- 2:08fingers, so that helps. Oh yeah.
- 2:10And he's got an aptitude for it. It's funny you say that, I've
- 2:13just I've dusted off my guitar the last couple of months.
- 2:17Have you run OK? Just Little Blackbird by the
- 2:20Yeah, I mean, it's always a standby that I play, but I've
- 2:23got a couple other songs that I'm working on and I actually
- 2:27just a friend of mine in town, we're going to meet once a month
- 2:30and try to get together and play.
- 2:33It's always better when you can play with somebody that is a
- 2:35little better than you and can teach you.
- 2:38So yeah, I'm excited about that and that's cool that Asher's
- 2:41picking it up. Evelyn actually started playing,
- 2:44so she's been looking at the Youtubes and helping her with
- 2:50her learning curve. So she's actually, she's got a
- 2:52good voice and she's picked up a couple of songs.
- 2:55So it's. Yeah, the Ozarks is a very
- 2:56musical place. Yeah.
- 2:59It's just something in the air around here, old timey music,
- 3:01bluegrass, folk, a lot of famous musicians from this part of the
- 3:05country. Porter Wagner.
- 3:08Yeah. Dolly Parton, I guess she wasn't
- 3:10born here, but she had association with Porter Wagner.
- 3:12They had a kind of sang as a duet for a long time and haha,
- 3:15Tonka. Yep, right, good little.
- 3:19Updates Good shout out for our 4th of.
- 3:21July, Brandon, real quick. Concert we're hosting them again
- 3:24out at Pine Meadows 4th of July on Saturday.
- 3:27So they were great last year, great to work with and they're
- 3:32excited to be doing that benefit concert for us again.
- 3:35So, so we'll have more info for you on that.
- 3:39But but yeah, Steve Cropper is a guy that I thought of when you
- 3:42said. Steve the Colonel Cropper.
- 3:44Yeah, yeah. Booker T and the MGS Blues Blues
- 3:46Brothers. He's around here, so there's got
- 3:49to be a handful more. Of course, you know, with
- 3:54Meredith, Cisco and the Winter's Bone.
- 3:58What's the name of that band? BlackBerry Winter.
- 4:00BlackBerry Winter. Yeah, they were kind of made a
- 4:03little bit famous for that movie.
- 4:05Yep, Yep. So, well, more on that to come,
- 4:09but let's just jump into our FAQs here.
- 4:12We're trying to do 4 different podcasts that get at all of the
- 4:17most frequently asked questions by parents, so they're all in
- 4:19one place. So we're hope we're not boring
- 4:22our regular sharpeners who may have heard some of these things.
- 4:25We'll try to keep it a little spicy and moving through and
- 4:28hopefully give you some insights about parenting and teaching and
- 4:31counseling, but these are really more informative than some of
- 4:34the other podcasts. We're trying to move through
- 4:36some stuff pretty quickly so people can, you know, use their
- 4:39time efficiently if they're investigating Whetstone Boys
- 4:41Ranch. So let's pick up with the next
- 4:44question, which has to do with the structure of the ranch in
- 4:47terms of what the daily schedule looks like.
- 4:50Why don't you give us a little rundown of what it looks like?
- 4:52Wake up in the morning. Yeah, go to bed at night.
- 4:56Yeah. Well, the word you use,
- 4:57structure is key there. I mean, everything that we do is
- 5:00structured and that's when you're working with teenagers,
- 5:04that's very important and so. It's part of the therapy.
- 5:07It's a huge part of the therapy and when that breaks down, the
- 5:11program breaks down. And so that's something that is
- 5:15as much as we can, we stick to the normal structure.
- 5:20So what does that look like in the normal weekday?
- 5:24In the mornings, the boys wake up about 6:30 and they basically
- 5:31take a shower, do their hygiene, get ready to go down for
- 5:35breakfast. And prior to going downstairs,
- 5:37they have to do some normal, you know, make sure their bathroom
- 5:41space, there's no water on the floor.
- 5:43All their, you know, hygiene bag is put up and they have to sweep
- 5:47their floor and make their bed and keep their dresser clean and
- 5:52tidy. And so those are some basic
- 5:54things that they get graded on how well they do every morning
- 5:59as far as all that stuff kind of goes into getting to the next
- 6:02level. But go down to breakfast about
- 6:047:15 and then eat breakfast and their next chore duties are
- 6:11cleaning up from breakfast. Everybody splits up from
- 6:15sweeping to putting dishes away, putting them in the dishwasher,
- 6:19all that stuff. Then we go down to Chapel.
- 6:21We have Chapel every morning from 8:00 to 8:30.
- 6:25And then following Chapel, they just get on with the school day.
- 6:28So the way we have it now though is we have two houses.
- 6:32We have level 1 house with the lower level house, which is the
- 6:35foundry, the upper level House of the forge.
- 6:38And so the Foundry guys, they do school two days a week and work
- 6:46three days a week. And then the Forge House, the
- 6:49upper level guys flip that. So they'll do school three days
- 6:51a week and work two days a week. So between that like 9:00 to
- 6:573:30 time is either work or school.
- 7:01And with 15, as far as the school goes, there's every two
- 7:05hours there's a 15 minute break where we either play disc golf
- 7:09or if the weather's bad, play pool or, you know, inside ping
- 7:12pong, things like that. And from four days a week, is
- 7:19the run program right or is it 3 three days A.
- 7:21Week 2 days a week we run over down, sometimes once on the
- 7:23weekend. OK.
- 7:25But there's a run program from 3:30 to 4:00, and then there's
- 7:32rec from about 4:00 to 5:00. So we'll introduce a different
- 7:36sport to the boys, you know, whether it's depends on the
- 7:39staff is football or basketball or baseball, sometimes rugby,
- 7:44some some ultimate frisbee is whatever.
- 7:49I couldn't couldn't come up with a name.
- 7:50But anyway, so there's recreation just to release the
- 7:53wiggles and get get the blood flow on and just any kind of
- 7:58just from sitting down. If they're in school, it's nice
- 8:00for them to be able to to run around and get some fresh air.
- 8:04And then in the evening we're doing either work consequences
- 8:09or helping with dinner and dinner prep.
- 8:14So 5:30 to 6:00 is usually dinner and then from really 7:30
- 8:20to that 830 time frame is playing games like board games.
- 8:28It could be cards, it could be, again, if the kid has PR
- 8:31privilege restriction and they need to work off some hours,
- 8:34that's the time to do that. And then we do bed prep.
- 8:39A lot of times there's a house meeting prior to going up for
- 8:43bed. Prep, but sometimes a devo.
- 8:45Yeah, the the the upper house, they do a devo these days.
- 8:49Yeah, which is good. Just kind of wind down.
- 8:51Highs and lows, happies and crappies.
- 8:53We'll check in at the end of the day.
- 8:56Yeah, so and then they go up at 8:00 and then they're able to
- 9:00read. You know, they kind of do their
- 9:02hygiene again, get ready for bed, and then they can read with
- 9:05a reading light. And then it's for a little while
- 9:08and then it's lights out at 9. And so it's a pretty full day
- 9:11again. Everything is structured, even
- 9:14the free time is structured. And so that's the weekday.
- 9:18The weekends are just a little bit later, wake up later,
- 9:22breakfast. And then a lot of times we'll do
- 9:25airsoft on campus or we'll do a field trip.
- 9:29I think we do a couple of field trips a month at this point,
- 9:33maybe more frequent than that if depending on the staff and if if
- 9:37boys are, if we have something that cool that a staff,
- 9:40particular staff wants to do. So we have the freedom to.
- 9:43Just about just throw to throw this in real quick this Saturday
- 9:46we have an interesting field trip.
- 9:47One of our staff members is going to bring our guys up to
- 9:50Jeff City to the the, the prison.
- 9:52Oh yeah. And get a tour of that, right.
- 9:54So yeah. That could be get.
- 9:55A little dose of reality of what happens if you make, you know,
- 9:58continue to make wrong choices. Yeah.
- 10:01So, but it's the first time we've done that trip.
- 10:02So we're we're, you know, thankful to him for coordinating
- 10:05that. But yeah, he was he was
- 10:07passionate about his former law enforcement kind of experience,
- 10:11so wanted to take that on. Yeah, you bet.
- 10:14Yeah. And one of the things as far as
- 10:16you know, again, structured free time there, we also the boys
- 10:22work hard every all week long. And, and we know that like, like
- 10:26anybody, like the, the Sabbath, we really don't have a whole lot
- 10:30of planned on the Sabbath or on Sundays.
- 10:34It's, you know, there's a healthy boredom there.
- 10:37That's it's good for kids to just relax and not have a whole
- 10:41lot planned. It's, it's structured time that
- 10:44is unstructured, if that makes sense.
- 10:46I mean, obviously there's not boys just sitting around and
- 10:50collectively being together like a pack of wild dogs.
- 10:53I mean, obviously we we've talked about the staff ratios,
- 10:55but it's just time to relax and the boys can read, they can go
- 11:01out and fish if they want and just some downtime and that's
- 11:06time to just kind of recalibrate.
- 11:08So we build that into the program as a model for them,
- 11:13that it's important to take time to just not do anything and let
- 11:17your brain kind of settle. Yeah.
- 11:20And one thing that I have been passionate about over the years
- 11:23is disc golf and we do have 18 hole disc golf course that is
- 11:28pretty sweet that we're near to completing.
- 11:30So that's another way they can use their free time.
- 11:34But yeah, this, like I said it before you started that, which
- 11:38is a great summary, is like this.
- 11:39The structure is the therapy. Yes, we have counseling and yes,
- 11:43we get into the nitty gritty of, you know, the psychology of
- 11:46everything. And but, you know, we have wide
- 11:49range of boys, 12 to 16 to sometimes 17 that can only
- 11:54engage at that level to a certain extent.
- 11:57So they're getting therapy by virtue of the fact that they're
- 12:01expected to be in a certain place at a certain time or that
- 12:06they have to kind of go with the program, whether they like it or
- 12:08not. They have to get along with
- 12:09other people who are doing the same thing as them, whether it's
- 12:13playing a game or whether it's working on a chore together or
- 12:16whether it's a the work day and we're having to lift a lift
- 12:21something, right? Even just something as simple as
- 12:23that. Getting in fact, I, I spent a
- 12:25lot of time with the work crew, the Kansas City group that came
- 12:29down recently and we were out in the woods working on tee box and
- 12:35we wanted to make it look nice. So we were digging up rocks
- 12:39because there's lots of those around here.
- 12:42And they wanted to, of course, pick the heaviest rock they
- 12:45could, you know, to kind of show how you know how strong they
- 12:49were. But usually that's, that's
- 12:52number one, they could hurt themselves, try to lift
- 12:55something too heavy. So we encourage them to push
- 12:57themselves. But I was like, you know what's
- 12:59better is like, we have this big rock.
- 13:01It's an ornamental rock. Want the two of you work
- 13:03together on moving this rock, right?
- 13:06And it took a while for the two of them to figure out how they
- 13:09were going to do that. Rocks are awkward to to carry
- 13:11and, and they got frustrated and they would blame the other guy
- 13:14for not lifting enough or not getting a good grab or a good
- 13:16hold or whatever. But like I said, that's all a
- 13:19part of the therapy that the work, the school, the program,
- 13:22the structure, the getting up, the going to the going to bed.
- 13:25And in some ways it's depending upon the boy can be more
- 13:28important than the, the cognitive therapy that that he's
- 13:31undergoing. So let me jump into the next
- 13:36thing, which is related to that and kind of jumping off of
- 13:38cognitive as well. Talk about the school structure,
- 13:41which you mentioned already. In the Foundry occurs on Monday
- 13:45and Tuesday, and in the Forge occurs on Wednesday, Thursday,
- 13:48and Friday. We've done multiple podcasts on
- 13:52what we do in school. We did a podcast with the
- 13:54headmaster, Gabe Newell about movies and importance of film.
- 13:58And I, as the previous headmaster, have talked at
- 14:01length about various things that we do in school.
- 14:03But to just to give a broad overview for this FAQ pod, I
- 14:08would say the school is, is individualized.
- 14:10So the boy's going to be tested when he comes in and we're going
- 14:13to figure out where he's at. And that's just essential
- 14:18because he has to teach himself the material We're teaching them
- 14:21responsibility, ownership, intrinsic motivation.
- 14:25Of course, we have lots of extrinsic ways to motivate them
- 14:28with merits and merit stores. And we do some tutoring and
- 14:32we'll do one-on-one when we feel it's necessary.
- 14:34But ultimately, a boy has to be able to sit in a seat by himself
- 14:39and teach himself math, teach himself social studies, teach
- 14:41himself science. The English is a little more
- 14:45embedded into the curriculum in terms of note taking, when we
- 14:50say speaking, listening, reading, writing.
- 14:53So you have multiple opportunities to do those
- 14:54things. My background is in English
- 14:56education, so I come in and do a lot of stuff with the boys.
- 14:59They do creative writing, you know, they write essays, they do
- 15:03research, they do all that stuff.
- 15:05What's the specific curriculum? It's called Life Pack, Life
- 15:09Pack, and it's a lot like the ACE curriculum that I used to
- 15:12use in that they assigned themselves along with some
- 15:17supervision, the number of pages they need to get done in terms
- 15:20of reading and then completion of follow up questions and
- 15:23assignments. And it comes in like booklets,
- 15:27like 10 booklets is a full credit.
- 15:29So they have to do 5 booklets to get a semester's worth of
- 15:32credit. And so that's what each boy is
- 15:34required to do to complete the program is is a semester's work
- 15:37of school. So that would be 5 packs in
- 15:40math, 5 packs in social studies, 5 packs in science, and then
- 15:43they have to get a certain number done to progress through
- 15:46the various levels. So to get to level 1, you have
- 15:48to complete one life pack in each of those 3 subjects and
- 15:52then meet the requirements in terms of language arts with
- 15:57writing assignments, film analysis, passing a, a music
- 16:03test. I do a music lecture on film.
- 16:05We do the history of, of the 20th century basically over a
- 16:08period of 10 to 10 to 12 months. So it's, it's robust and we, we
- 16:16set the standards as high as we can reasonably set them for a, a
- 16:20curriculum that's self-taught. A lot of parents have concerns
- 16:24on the outset. And when they hear that they're
- 16:26like, there's no way my son can do that.
- 16:29There's no way that he could sit still for, you know, 3 hours in
- 16:34the morning and, and work on those 3 subjects.
- 16:37And I would just say to that, that yes, way, yes, because the
- 16:43boys, the boys do it. And not to say that we haven't
- 16:46had a boy here or there that when he got here, we realized
- 16:49that his academics problem, academic problems were, were
- 16:51beyond what we could, we could address.
- 16:54But most boys, when they get in this environment and they have
- 16:56the proper motivation and they have the space and the quiet and
- 17:00they have the support and they're removed from all the
- 17:02other distractions and the screens and everything, they,
- 17:05they can acquire the ability to focus.
- 17:07And if they're held accountable, they they will accept the
- 17:10responsibility and they'll grow in their ability to, in their
- 17:15self-control to be able to do that.
- 17:17Yeah, I'm going to have you just touch on that a little bit.
- 17:19Thinking about being self-taught and if a kid gets stuck, if he's
- 17:25working through a pack and he gets stuck, what's the school
- 17:28process for him to get help and and who do we have to help?
- 17:32Yeah. So we have a flag system.
- 17:34So they sit at a desk that is like self-contained, so they're
- 17:38not going to be distracted by anything to the right or to the
- 17:40left or in front of them. And so, yeah, say they're
- 17:44working through math and they get a tricky section and
- 17:49they've, they tried to figure it out themselves.
- 17:51That's the main thing. Like, I'm not going to help a
- 17:53boy until he's shown me that he's at least tried to figure
- 17:56out himself. And if he hasn't done that, I'm
- 17:58not going to run and rescue him right now.
- 18:00He's got to learn that he can do it.
- 18:02But I feel, but if I feel like he's just like beating his head
- 18:05up against the wall and he's frustrated, then I might sit
- 18:07down right next to him and reread the the part that was
- 18:11teaching him how to teach how to learn it.
- 18:14I wouldn't just show him how to do it.
- 18:16I would say here's here's what the pack says.
- 18:19Let's see if we can follow the directions because I could, I
- 18:22could rescue him there. But the next time he has a
- 18:24problem, he's going to want me to do the same thing.
- 18:27So I'm going to teach him how to how to teach himself.
- 18:30We also have, you know, with the ratio, it's a little higher in
- 18:35school usually because the three to one ratio applies to staff on
- 18:39campus at all times. And during the school week.
- 18:42There's lots of people, you know, it's like a one to one
- 18:44ratio during the week, which is good if you have to remove a boy
- 18:48from class because he's being unruly.
- 18:51But in general, there's Gabe, the headmaster, and then there's
- 18:54Taylor Glass, who's the assistant.
- 18:57So right now, you know, the Max we have in any of the houses is
- 19:01like 6. So that's a three to one ratio
- 19:03or better if there's only four kids in the forge, for example,
- 19:06and six in the foundry. We also have like the room we're
- 19:10in now is adjoin to the school room.
- 19:11It's quiet. We can shut, you know, the door.
- 19:13We can come back here and a boy can really.
- 19:16You mean there's a lot of stuff that happens during those, you
- 19:19realize, oh, the reason why he can't do math is because he's
- 19:21thinking about something traumatic that happened to him.
- 19:24So we can, we can sit down and we can work through that or we
- 19:28can call in a counselor. We can call in Tom to Thomas to
- 19:32talk to him. So we have a lot of tools about
- 19:34at our disposal in the school room.
- 19:38So they're going to get a full semester's worth of credit.
- 19:41They're going to hopefully keep pace with their grade, even if
- 19:44we have to go back and fill in some gaps because it is
- 19:47self-taught. They can move more quickly
- 19:49through the curriculum and get caught back up or even ahead in
- 19:52some circumstances. And we've had a lot of success.
- 19:56You know, when I, I know when I was tracking it for the 10 years
- 20:00I was headmaster, I mean, the average boy would raise his GPA
- 20:04almost a full .0. Wow, you know so.
- 20:08And all those transfers, we've never had any issues with those
- 20:11credits transfer. No, because I mean people are
- 20:13really open to home schooling these days if they know a boy is
- 20:16getting help. Mental health, like nowadays,
- 20:19schools are all about that. They want to see, you know, they
- 20:22may call Gabe and ask him a few questions about his
- 20:24qualifications, about his curriculum.
- 20:25He'll explain to them about the life packs.
- 20:27He'll explain to them about a, you know, our history, our track
- 20:29record of success. Every once in a while, they'll
- 20:32be a school that will say, well, we can accept that class, but we
- 20:36can't. We'll have to title it something
- 20:38different. And so it may count as an
- 20:40elective instead of whatever credit that school needed.
- 20:44And different schools in different states are a little
- 20:46pickier about certain things. But, you know, that's one in
- 20:50every, you know, 100 kids, you know, or 50 kids where, where
- 20:55someone even asked that question.
- 20:57So it's really kind of a, it's really kind of a moot point.
- 21:00Yeah. In terms of whether the credits
- 21:01are going to transfer right? Good.
- 21:03Yeah. All right.
- 21:05That's my. There's the school.
- 21:07So the other part of the structure is the work program
- 21:10which you used to be in charge of.
- 21:12So we'll let you take that one, right?
- 21:14Yeah. And I'll just say that Pat and
- 21:17Mr. Pat and Mr. Page have done an incredible job just
- 21:21bolstering that program. And it's a lot more robust these
- 21:25days, which is good because we just need to keep more boys
- 21:30busy. And so man, there's one of the
- 21:35the key things that they have done that's been huge is just to
- 21:38kind of for all the staff on campus.
- 21:40We all have different jobs or different areas or things that
- 21:44we see need needs to be done around campus.
- 21:47And so we have a little forum on Google Docs where we can just
- 21:50put jobs up there that we would like to get done and we can put.
- 21:55Like kind of nice. Hey, this is like super priority
- 21:58or just whenever you get to it. Yeah, for me, you know, I, it's
- 22:01good for me because I have people contacting me about
- 22:04community service and it's great for me to just say, hey, we got
- 22:07this community service opportunity and here's when they
- 22:10would like to have it done. And so that's kind of how a lot
- 22:15of the jobs come to the work program is just internally and
- 22:20then just external community service jobs that people call
- 22:23about. But between, you know, managing
- 22:26285 acres, that's a huge job in itself.
- 22:30So there's there's no shortage of jobs.
- 22:33It's just trying to figure out what's the priority.
- 22:35And so that is what the boys really from that 9:00 to to
- 22:443:30, they are either, you know, splitting firewood, they are
- 22:52doing wood shop. We have a specific wood shop
- 22:55time where they're just learning how to work with their hands,
- 22:59learning elements of just how to measure things with the tape
- 23:05measure, what tools do what, what are they called?
- 23:07Just some basic things in the wood shop that boys love to do.
- 23:12And sometimes they have not had any experience with that and
- 23:16they really find some joy And, and that's one of our core
- 23:19values is just creating and building and teaching the joy of
- 23:23work, you know, and work's not a bad 4 letter word.
- 23:27We want them to understand that God created us as men to build
- 23:30and to to create and to design. And a lot of that is
- 23:35incorporated into the work program.
- 23:38And so they really, they get a pretty wide array of skills in
- 23:43their time here from not learning how to install barbed
- 23:49wire fences or fix barbed wire fences, do some plumbing with
- 23:52agricultural systems and building hanging doors and just
- 24:00a lot of just basic carpentry stuff that they get here.
- 24:04And learning how to use a wood splitter mower, how to work on
- 24:07mowers, how to change the oil between our side by sides and
- 24:11the mowers. And so all of that maintenance
- 24:13type stuff, they get a part of that and that's all goes into
- 24:16the work program. And so that's kind of on campus
- 24:21stuff. And then probably 2 * a month, I
- 24:23would say we do a community service project where we really
- 24:27want to be intentional with meeting real needs out in the
- 24:31community. And so one of the ones we do on
- 24:34a regular basis is pack lunches for some school programs and the
- 24:38boys, you know, we pack probably 2000 lunches in a day between
- 24:43some of the other volunteers that help out with that.
- 24:46And then in a couple of weeks, we're going to help out a friend
- 24:49of ours whose mom passed away and she's just has a bunch of
- 24:52stuff in her basement that needs to be cleared out, that's been
- 24:57there for years. And so they're just needing help
- 25:00moving that stuff. And so so anyway we can be of
- 25:05help to others and be of service, it is really key for us
- 25:09to just show the boys how to serve, that it's important to
- 25:13serve. And they're also learning some
- 25:15skills and just getting their hands, yeah, dirty and getting
- 25:19their hands kind of roughed up because a lot of them have got
- 25:22soft hands. They haven't done a whole lot of
- 25:24work in their days. So it was the work ethic is
- 25:28being built on a daily basis here.
- 25:31So. So that's kind of a a good
- 25:33snapshot of the work. Program and I, I would add to
- 25:36that that the, the work program is where a lot of mentoring
- 25:39occurs. Yes, mentoring occurs in the
- 25:42school room to some extent when you can sit down with a guy and
- 25:45help him, you know it, it happens in the, in the evening,
- 25:50you know, during rack and everything.
- 25:53But but that work program is where I think the mentoring
- 25:56really shines because you come alongside a, a kid, a young man
- 26:00who's just aching to use his hands to do something and to get
- 26:03out and be outside and to, you know, all that.
- 26:06So they're, they're really more open to what you might tell them
- 26:10in terms of advice. They're not going to, they're
- 26:12not going to like get defensive, right?
- 26:15You know, you're like, oh, wow, you're going to teach me how to
- 26:17use this tool. Wow, I've never learned more.
- 26:19You know, we got a couple, some boys, not a lot of boys
- 26:24actually, who think they know everything and they think they
- 26:26know how to use the tool. So you got to break that down.
- 26:29But I would say in general, the the young men are really
- 26:32receptive to that teaching. And then you'd be amazed at the
- 26:35kinds of life lessons that come up when you're when you're out
- 26:38there working on the farm. One other thing that I wanted to
- 26:43throw in here as it relates to the work, the work program that
- 26:47is a huge part of Whetstone is just all of the volunteers that
- 26:51come on campus. And we just, we're coming off of
- 26:53cabin week where we had a handful of volunteers come and
- 26:57do some incredible work this week and or this last week.
- 27:01And when you're working together and you have volunteers from
- 27:05other churches that sometimes drive like halfway across the
- 27:08country to come do that. I mean, we've had from from
- 27:11Kentucky to Texas to Kansas City, there's multiple groups
- 27:17that come here and drive a long ways just to pour in to what God
- 27:21is doing here. And so when you have that
- 27:24dynamic and throw in the work projects where our boys are
- 27:28working with volunteers and staff, there's so much good that
- 27:32God does in those situations. And so that's a, you know,
- 27:36probably a few months out of the year, the boys are working with
- 27:39volunteers. They when you add up all the
- 27:42time. Once 1/4.
- 27:43Of yeah, we have, we got a group coming in a couple of weeks, you
- 27:47know, we just had one leave last week.
- 27:49And so that's just a you talk about the therapy part of the
- 27:54program, like the therapy happens like really in in all of
- 27:57that stuff where you're just building relationships and
- 28:00working together and constructing and, and seeing
- 28:04things come together that you dreamed of, you designed and
- 28:09then work together on it's it's really a cool.
- 28:12It's very fulfilling. Yeah.
- 28:14And our boys have not had that experience.
- 28:16Most of them, like, we don't realize how much that means to
- 28:20them because we, it's just kind of old hat.
- 28:23We're used to that. But to really put your put
- 28:25ourselves in the boys shoes, like a lot of times, like we've
- 28:28had boys like why are these guys here?
- 28:30Yeah. You know, it's like it makes no
- 28:32sense. These guys would drive, you
- 28:35know, 10 hours to come here for a weekend and do some work that
- 28:39that makes no sense in the conventional wisdom, but.
- 28:42When you're crazy. When you put God in the mix and
- 28:45what God's doing and how he wants to communicate and work
- 28:49and then it, it does make sense. Yeah.
- 28:54All right, great summary. We got 2 here that I want to
- 28:59mash up together. I got about 5 minutes here but I
- 29:03thought we we could kind of mash up food and and divide food into
- 29:12and food and health into like spiritual food.
- 29:15Right, you said mash up like mashed potatoes.
- 29:18No, no, like mash up. Like you take two things and
- 29:20like mash them. I'm thinking food.
- 29:22But yeah, mashed potatoes too. That works, works.
- 29:25So what do we do to feed the boys and keep them healthy
- 29:27physically? And what do we do to feed them
- 29:29and keep them healthy spiritually?
- 29:31OK, so I'll take the the spiritual component.
- 29:35How's that? You'll take the High Road.
- 29:37I'll take the higher road and you'll take the lower Rd.
- 29:40Yeah. So the spiritual component, we,
- 29:42Brandon already mentioned that we have Chapel 4, four times a
- 29:45week, sometimes 5. We have guest speakers that come
- 29:48in on Wednesday sometimes. We just had one recently that
- 29:51had an amazing tale to tell. Yeah.
- 29:53That was of coming back from the dead, literally, and how God has
- 29:57worked through through his life. And so we'll try to reach out to
- 30:01community members or friends that are in town or, you know,
- 30:05whoever we think might really have an impact on the boys for
- 30:09those. But in general, we're, we're
- 30:11kind of rotating those Chapel responsibilities.
- 30:13We each have our own thing. I talk about gratitude and the
- 30:17importance of it. And I work in a little writing
- 30:19exercise that we put stuff on sticky notes.
- 30:21If you follow us on social media, you'll see those little
- 30:24sticky notes sometimes Brandon talks about manliness and what
- 30:27it is to be a man and the qualities of of being a man and
- 30:31biblic, the biblical concept of a man, not toxic masculinity,
- 30:35but but what what how God created us to be.
- 30:39Jeremy has his set of stories that he tells of with relate to
- 30:42character traits. You know Gabe is usually
- 30:46something science related or history related.
- 30:49Or animal control related. Animal Control Related has got
- 30:52lots of good animal stories. So we all connect with the boys
- 30:55on, you know, on different levels and and so we feel like
- 30:58that that variety of personalities and styles will
- 31:01connect with them. But that's like instruction.
- 31:05Usually some Bible verses involved, right?
- 31:07It's the more the more Bible Y kind of like spiritual formation
- 31:12part of the program. We do bring the guys to church
- 31:14somewhere on Sunday morning, kind of rotate around churches
- 31:17in the area. But Pomona Christian Church is a
- 31:20big one. They've been big supporters and
- 31:22we love bringing the guys there and then then a variety of
- 31:27churches around sometimes are related to who's working that
- 31:30that Sunday. They want to bring them to their
- 31:32church or the church that they attend, not their church.
- 31:34But you know what I and then you know, we we also feel like more
- 31:39is caught than taught. So we believe that you should
- 31:42preach the gospel always and and use words when necessary, as
- 31:47Francis of Assisi said. And so that spiritual formation
- 31:50component is built into the very nature of what we do.
- 31:56And we are a Christian boarding school.
- 31:59And so we would not be here if we did not have a strong
- 32:03commitment to biblical teaching, to having a relationship with
- 32:08God through Christ and and showing that we love him by by
- 32:14loving others. And I think that's, that's
- 32:17pretty much kind of the summary of our spiritual formation
- 32:21approach. We, we don't have a campus
- 32:23minister. We would like to get to that
- 32:25point at some point. But I think we're all ministers,
- 32:28we're all vocational ministers and we all take that part of the
- 32:30job very seriously. Yeah, it goes back to the ratio.
- 32:34We always talk about those ratios allow those one-on-one
- 32:38conversations in the evenings, you know, with some of that
- 32:41downtime where you know, boys when they work hard during the
- 32:44day and the downtime in the evening.
- 32:46Sometimes those are times where they start just kind of feeling
- 32:49down and they feel homesick. And, you know, usually in the
- 32:54evenings or when the the good conversations happen from the
- 32:58standpoint of like when a real heart to heart happens or just
- 33:02that where a boy gets real with the staff.
- 33:05And, you know, all of our staff are, are believers and we try to
- 33:12to steer them in those conversations, you know, model
- 33:15Christ in those conversations, show them love and grace and,
- 33:19and help them see that Christ is the answer to these.
- 33:23We don't. And and trying to do that in the
- 33:24right measure, that's, that's always sometimes a challenge.
- 33:28Yeah, my dad sent me a a text this week.
- 33:32He said the old, old Yiddish proverb.
- 33:35The rabbis would always say. You'll either, you can either
- 33:38listen to what I'm telling you or you can wish that you had.
- 33:41So I think that I think that's our approach towards what the
- 33:44Bible says. It's like we can do what the
- 33:46Bible tells us to do, or we can later on wish that we had done
- 33:50what the Bible told us to do. And so but we're not beating
- 33:53them over the head with the Bible by any means, by any
- 33:56means. A lot of our guys have some
- 33:58spiritual trauma, so that really pushes them away.
- 34:01But we do speak the truth in love.
- 34:03Yeah. OK.
- 34:05So why don't you take the food nourishment component in a
- 34:09couple minutes here before we wrap it up since you were kind
- 34:12of in charge of that at one point?
- 34:13Yeah, as, as house parents initially, yeah.
- 34:17I mean, teenage boys and food, first of all, that budget is big
- 34:23and boys eat a lot and they get angry.
- 34:27So old Cal Farley had a saying early on, Cal Farley's Boys
- 34:33ranch. Work them hard, feed them well,
- 34:36and they don't have time to get in trouble.
- 34:37Yeah. You know, And so there's a lot
- 34:39of truth in that. And just that structure and
- 34:42feeding them well, good healthy food.
- 34:45We try to, we're not super like, you know, major health food
- 34:51nuts. A lot of us here value good
- 34:53healthy food. But there's again, a balance of
- 34:56like what you can practically do when you're feeding, you know,
- 34:59dozens of boys, three meals a day and things like that.
- 35:03So, but we, I mean, Jessica and, and Sean, really Jessica
- 35:07overseas so much of that now as far as the management of the
- 35:11food between both houses and just, I know she takes a lot of
- 35:15pride in it and does a great job, which is providing good,
- 35:18healthy, well balanced meals that our boys need protein and
- 35:22vegetables and really kind of how we handle that.
- 35:26Most of our boys are very picky, I would say in general with
- 35:30vegetables. And so in order for them to get
- 35:33seconds on the things that they like, they have to at least
- 35:36finish the first of the vegetables and fruit, right?
- 35:41That's typically breakfast, lunch and dinner.
- 35:43How we handle that, you know, to use a carrot as a carrot the
- 35:50next to, to get the next helping.
- 35:53And so, so, yeah, we like to try to expand their palette of taste
- 35:58and not be as picky. And, and we have a wide array of
- 36:02food that's served here. And, and really there's just a
- 36:05weekly menu that comes out and then staff, different staff,
- 36:08especially over here in the Foundry, they work to prepare
- 36:12those meals with the boys and the boys get experience, just
- 36:17real life experience on knowing their way around the kitchen.
- 36:20So that's a thing that they get. So as an added benefit, but we
- 36:25they do get to have some sweets, but we are very conservative, I
- 36:29would say with that for obvious reasons.
- 36:31And just, you know, boys having crazy sugar highs, but their
- 36:37birthdays are special. They get to pick their birthday
- 36:40cake and then on weekends with movies and some of their merits,
- 36:46they get to spend some some of their allowance monies on snacks
- 36:54for movie nights and things like that.
- 36:55So so they do get some sweets, but again, it's regulated.
- 36:58It's kind of structured. They don't just get to go raid
- 37:01the pantry of energy drinks and right Twix bars, you know?
- 37:06So, yeah. Yeah, I would say food is
- 37:08medicine. And if if your son is overweight
- 37:12and you're, you're concerned that that's, you know, affecting
- 37:16his health, then the diet that they eat here and the exercise
- 37:19and the regimen they get, he's probably going to lose weight.
- 37:21If your boy is underweight and he's just not eating right and
- 37:24he's not taking care of his body and he's too thin, he's probably
- 37:27he's going to put on weight, he's going to look healthy, he's
- 37:29going to develop muscle. So I think the, the program, the
- 37:32food program that we have, you know, meets guys where they're
- 37:35at and, and helps them to, to get them where you want them to
- 37:39be a healthy body, mind and soul.
- 37:43And yeah, it's kind of foundational to a program.
- 37:46One thing I would say for maybe a parent listening to this,
- 37:49whose son has a specific allergy, we've had a little bit
- 37:52of that in the past. And so we do the best we can to
- 37:57accommodate some special allergies.
- 38:00Like I have a peanut allergy. Obviously if we have a boy
- 38:02that's got a peanut allergy, we're going to not make him eat
- 38:05a peanut butter Jelly sandwich or some kids play on that and
- 38:10it's like I have a gluten allergy.
- 38:12And a lot of times that's not really been the case.
- 38:15I just don't want to eat what's in front of them.
- 38:18So if it's legitimate and we talked to the parents about a
- 38:22long lasting allergy or just some some food things, yeah,
- 38:26we'll, we'll, we'll work with you.
- 38:28Be flexible and try to to work with any special diets that way.
- 38:33Yeah, so. Well, I feel like we got through
- 38:36a lot, Brandon. Yeah, I'd like to keep talking,
- 38:38but I'm going to have to bounce here.
- 38:41I want to thank Thomas for putting this together.
- 38:43We're going to be heading out on, I'm heading out on Adventure
- 38:46week with some other staff coming up.
- 38:47So I'm going to hand off this SD card to him and, and he'll get
- 38:50it put together and probably out sometime while we're on
- 38:53adventure week and then when I get back, that's kind of the
- 38:55next thing outdoors. So all right, I'll be.
- 38:58Able to have some. Stories, fresh stories about
- 39:00Adventure Week. So yeah, we're good.
- 39:02OK. Well, thank you all for
- 39:03listening to A Time to Sharpen and we'll catch you next time.
- 39:07Bye Whitestone Boys Ranch is a therapeutic boarding school
- 39:18located in the scenic Ozarks of southern Missouri.
- 39:22It was founded in 2011 to serve families from around the country
- 39:26who are struggling with challenging behaviors from their
- 39:2812 to 16 year old sons. Our mission is to sharpen the
- 39:32character of young men. Please visit
- 39:35whetstoneboysranch.com if you want to learn more about our
- 39:38program or about how to contact us for help.
- 39:41Thanks for listening and we hope to catch you next time on A time
- 39:44to sharpen.