Latest / Elon Musk Podcast / The lasting effects of DOGE
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- 1:22Thank you so much. Elon Musk is stepping back from
- 1:25official government work, but the agency he built, DOGE, or
- 1:30the Department of Government Efficiency, is gaining more
- 1:32power. Could this quiet takeover of
- 1:35federal systems continue long after he's gone?
- 1:40Now this is how DOGE embedded itself in nearly every major US
- 1:45agency. What is doing to federal jobs
- 1:47and services and why Elon Musk is leaving?
- 1:51And it doesn't actually change the impact it's having at all.
- 1:54Doge didn't slow down, it's just stopping making headlines now.
- 1:58DOGE was created under Trump with one goal, eliminate waste.
- 2:02But in just four months it did much more than that.
- 2:05It placed Musk aligned staff to the positions of actual
- 2:09authority, people with badges, security clearance, and also
- 2:13control of sensitive systems. Doge staff.
- 2:16They don't operate like regular employees somewhere on short
- 2:19contracts. Others are placed permanently.
- 2:22They rotate access through multiple agencies, and they hold
- 2:25multiple titles. That flexibility allows them to
- 2:29move fast and bypass normal procedures now.
- 2:32Musk's absence raises a critical question, though.
- 2:35Who's actually accountable now? Some cabinet secretaries have
- 2:39tried to limit Doge's influence. But without Musk drawing
- 2:42attention, DOGE can act more freely and with less public
- 2:46resistance. The disruption is already clear.
- 2:49In Trump's first 100 days, over 120,000 federal workers were
- 2:54laid off or targeted. Agencies scrambled to
- 2:57reorganize. Some workers took buyouts.
- 3:00Others were relocated or fired. Entire departments were thrown
- 3:04into confusion. And DOGE isn't just about
- 3:07cutting staff, though. It's changing how the government
- 3:09handles fraud, benefits and public data.
- 3:12A shift effects millions of people who rely on these
- 3:15services to function reliably. Its influence is especially
- 3:19visible at the Social Security Administration.
- 3:22At least 11 DOGE staffers now work there, some with direct
- 3:26ties to Elon Musk, running fraud audits, managing software
- 3:30updates and triggering lawsuits over data access.
- 3:34Inside these agencies, career staff describe tension and
- 3:37isolation. DOGE workers shut their doors,
- 3:40avoid communication. Sometimes they don't share any
- 3:42plans until they're already underway.
- 3:45The secrecy is deepened. Internal divides now.
- 3:49Agencies have now submitted their plans for Phase 2 of DOGE.
- 3:53More layoffs, more reorganizations and broader
- 3:55access to internal systems. The administration wants the
- 3:58Supreme Court to approve those firings by late 2025.
- 4:03Despite that, some officials admit DOGE has uncovered data
- 4:06that helps prevent fraud. The Government Accountability
- 4:09Office, or the GAO acknowledge gains in identifying improper
- 4:14payments. But those benefits come with
- 4:16serious trade-offs, especially when transparency is missing.
- 4:20Meanwhile, Elon Musk has reduced his own role, saying he'll spend
- 4:24one to two days a week on government work.
- 4:26His allies say DOGE can keep operating just fine.
- 4:29They call him the booster rocket.
- 4:31His part is done, and now the mission continues.
- 4:34Now, Democrats built early opposition around Musk
- 4:37personally. He plastered his face on posters
- 4:39and called him President Musk. But now they're shifting focus
- 4:43to Doge itself, arguing his decisions are causing lasting
- 4:47damage that needs to be fixed. Now.
- 4:50Musk may no longer be in the building, but the people that he
- 4:54installed, the systems that he changed, and the chaos he set in
- 4:58motion are still very active. And now Doge isn't going
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