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The DJ BenHaMeen x Jimi Hendrix: Purple Haze Release Party Interview!! · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: What's something and that This is Satiana King and DJ
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  Speaker 1: Venhamen and we're here at any one comments in Brooklyn,
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  Speaker 1: New York.
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  Speaker 2: Clinic, Brooklyn.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, And as you can hear, we are
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  Speaker 1: actually in the comic book store along with supporter and
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  Speaker 1: friends and everyone that we love and appreciate here to celebrate, support, celebrate, congratulate,
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  Speaker 1: don't hate, congratulate mister benham for a purple age.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 4: Breaking because I'm being trying to not, you know, curse
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  Speaker 4: so much.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, very good, that's gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Then.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, as your podcast partner, as your business partner,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say, I am enjoying this. I'm enjoying
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  Speaker 1: seeing you when i'm joining you, seeing you succeed and
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  Speaker 1: flourish and see all of the work that you put
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  Speaker 1: in come to life. And I just want to personally
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  Speaker 1: congratulate you. And I'm very proud of you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'm really happy that you're here.
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  Speaker 3: This is an amazing moment. I've got friends and family here,
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  Speaker 3: I've got people that I love and respect, like creators,
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  Speaker 3: everyone you know here.
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  Speaker 4: And this book is out today. It's out worldwide.
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  Speaker 3: And like I've been dreaming and making comic books since
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  Speaker 3: I was a little kid, and it's real.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel now that like this is in
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  Speaker 2: your hand?
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  Speaker 1: Like we we've sawt we've seen proofs, we've seen the sketches,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen the words.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen it when it was just a thought in
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  Speaker 2: your head, right, a glimmer in your eye.
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  Speaker 1: Now that you have this in the flesh, how are
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  Speaker 1: you feeling?
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  Speaker 3: It's still crazy to me. Like I've been seeing it
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  Speaker 3: for like the last couple of weeks, I think, But
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  Speaker 3: every time I see this book, it's just mind blowing
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  Speaker 3: to me because we've been working on this for so
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  Speaker 3: long and we put our heart and soul and everything
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  Speaker 3: into it. So I'm just really happy to see it.
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  Speaker 3: And then like today is the big day where it
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  Speaker 3: hits bookstores and everything worldwide. So I'm really happy for people.
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  Speaker 3: My man Joe Illig is here, tim o'tep is here,
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  Speaker 3: and they're gonna get the fucking read it. And Stephen
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  Speaker 3: Harri's like people that I love and respect are going
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  Speaker 3: to get to read this book. Now you're gonna get
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  Speaker 3: to read it, and it's you know.
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  Speaker 2: I've read it, Yeah, I've read it, but I get
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  Speaker 2: to really.
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  Speaker 1: Because like I'm behind the scenes, right, I could look
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  Speaker 1: at it on tiny little screens all secretive, you know,
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  Speaker 1: see the stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So reading that, I had a visceral reaction.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say this, Like the story itself, obviously, the
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  Speaker 1: art Toime Man Drake is a guy, he's a he's
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  Speaker 1: a illustrative god right, And.
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  Speaker 3: Justin Prokevich did the color. Shout out to Justin Prokevich
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  Speaker 3: who did the colors. And if we get a second printing, Justin,
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  Speaker 3: I'm pushing for your name to be on.
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  Speaker 4: The cover because you deserve that type of recognition.
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  Speaker 1: And as I was reading and just getting into the story,
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  Speaker 1: I felt drawn in and right away, like I started
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  Speaker 1: thinking about because I also listened and read to, or
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  Speaker 1: rather read a lot of your interviews with other people,
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  Speaker 1: and people kept saying things like this is psychedelic, this
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  Speaker 1: is out of this world, this is an embodiment of
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Hendrix and everything it needs to be black and music.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I was reading all sorts of stuff and
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, God, damn, they really feeling that.
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  Speaker 1: And when I read it, I felt the same. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm not biased when I say this, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I truly felt.
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  Speaker 2: I felt I felt the love. And let me explain
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  Speaker 2: what I mean by that.
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  Speaker 1: I felt the love because as I'm younger, a little younger,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't know everything about Jimmy Hendrix. I just
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  Speaker 1: know the mainstream stuff, you know, maybe some some deep
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  Speaker 1: cuts here and there, but I don't really know. But
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  Speaker 1: to really be drawn into something like this and then
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  Speaker 1: feel compelled to want to learn about who Jimmy is
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  Speaker 1: and his music and what he stood for and everything
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  Speaker 1: he stood for? How does that make you feel, to
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  Speaker 1: like be able to have that type of influence over someone.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy because I've been like I'm you know, obviously
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  Speaker 3: Jimmy is not my era at all, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: he's way before me. But the same thing I've been.
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  Speaker 3: I've been more of a fan of Jimmy for longer.
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  Speaker 4: I've loved his.
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  Speaker 3: Music, but this is still it's I don't really think.
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  Speaker 3: I like, that was something I didn't try and take
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  Speaker 3: into account honestly when I wrote it, because it's something
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  Speaker 3: I can't think about because that's so huge, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Like I remember Chico Leo was like, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're on the Wikipedia page. He's trying to have this
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  Speaker 3: book and I think, you know, I can't. I can't
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  Speaker 3: think of that, you know, It's like, but He's like,
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  Speaker 3: forever you know, Jimmy Hendrix, You're gonna be associated with it,
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  Speaker 3: and that's bigger than I can think of.
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  Speaker 4: So I was just trying to do the best I can.
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  Speaker 4: And because this was like my.
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  Speaker 3: First draft of novel, first come a book, and because
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  Speaker 3: I've been a fan of the medium for so long,
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  Speaker 3: it was more I was trying to write something that
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  Speaker 3: would impress to people that I was fans of, and
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  Speaker 3: that was my main thing, was trying to like give
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  Speaker 3: as much as I could to comic books. And then
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  Speaker 3: at the same time, my other real goal behind this
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  Speaker 3: book was to talk about black music and talk about
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  Speaker 3: it in the way that I felt I wasn't talked
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  Speaker 3: about in comics and honestly just wasn't talked about in general,
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  Speaker 3: like my own theories about black music and ideas about
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  Speaker 3: it that I really wanted to express for this book.
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  Speaker 3: And when Mellow Brown, my partner, my brother, when he
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  Speaker 3: first approached me on it and was like, Yo, I
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  Speaker 3: want you to write this with me and pitch, well,
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  Speaker 3: we had to pitch first. Before we even got the game,
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  Speaker 3: we had to pitch on it. And when he told
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  Speaker 3: me wanted me to pitch on it, it was just like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: this is my perfect opportunity to talk about all these
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  Speaker 3: things that I've thought about my whole life, about black
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  Speaker 3: music and about music in general, and then to put
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  Speaker 3: everything that I had and all my ideas about comics
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  Speaker 3: as much as I could into this book. I still
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  Speaker 3: got mad at the drums I want to put into comics.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think you were successful.
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  Speaker 1: When I read the book, and there were several times
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  Speaker 1: where I stopped on certain pages where I was just like,
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  Speaker 1: holy shit, one am I reading right now? And the
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  Speaker 1: reason why I'm gonna say this is because I heard
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  Speaker 1: the music. I don't know if you realize that you
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  Speaker 1: guys were able to do that. I heard the music
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  Speaker 1: as I was reading.
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  Speaker 2: Through the pages.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what to say to that, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: thank you, that's just I We use a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the lyrics. We use a lot of the music to
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  Speaker 3: tell the story, Like a large part of the research
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  Speaker 3: was finding lyrics and songs that match the scenes that
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  Speaker 3: we were already writing. So that's ill, you know, And
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  Speaker 3: then that's a lot of it. I had to give
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  Speaker 3: credit to Tom, to Tom Mandrake, because all the lyrics that
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  Speaker 3: you see in the book are part of his art
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  Speaker 3: and he really took special care and even Justin once again,
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  Speaker 3: Justin Prokovich, like Tom was explaining this to me recently,
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  Speaker 3: how Justin had to do extra work because the lettering
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  Speaker 3: isn't like a separate layer in the art, it's all
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  Speaker 3: one page. Tom just draws everything as one. He's an
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  Speaker 3: art he doesn't do digital. He draws everything out. So
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  Speaker 3: his pencils have the letters ingrained in them. So Justin
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  Speaker 3: had to do that with it, where he couldn't just
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  Speaker 3: separate it as a layer and do the colors, he
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  Speaker 3: had to do each letter colored out. So once again,
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  Speaker 3: shout out to Justin and shout out to Tom. They're
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  Speaker 3: both fucking legends, and I'm just so happy that I
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  Speaker 3: had the chance to work with them.
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  Speaker 4: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't want to speak more just about that
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  Speaker 1: phenomenon of being able to trigger emotion and sound and
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  Speaker 1: thought like obviously everything Jamie sansforre we talk about peace
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  Speaker 1: and love and unity and all this other stuff like
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  Speaker 1: that's big.
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  Speaker 2: And then to be able listen now I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Know, because I just want to say I don't think that,
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  Speaker 3: like I don't want to say that's a misunderstanding, but
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  Speaker 3: I think that's not what Jimmy was about. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: I think that's something that we One of the big
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  Speaker 3: things that we pitched about this book was I felt
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  Speaker 3: that Jimmy isn't respected in the what I call the
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  Speaker 3: river of Black music, Like I feel like Jimmy isn't
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  Speaker 3: brought up enough. Like, you know, we talk about James Brown,
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  Speaker 3: we talk about Miles Davis, we talk about George Clinton,
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  Speaker 3: we talk about you know, in the modern day rock
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  Speaker 3: kim We talk about all these different people, but Jimmy
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  Speaker 3: isn't mentioned enough to me when people we talk about Prince,
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  Speaker 3: but we don't talk about Jimmy. You talked about Michael Jackson,
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  Speaker 3: but we don't talk about Jimmy. And Jimmy is at
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  Speaker 3: least as important as anyone, I just think, if not
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  Speaker 3: more important in some cases. And that was one of
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  Speaker 3: the big things we pitched when we first pitched the book,
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  Speaker 3: was like, I feel like Jimmy is not respected like that,
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  Speaker 3: and I wanted to make sure that people understood that
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  Speaker 3: Jimmy was a black man and that peace and love
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  Speaker 3: shit was not what Jimmy was about. Like this, so
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  Speaker 3: we based his book on was when Jimmy formed a
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  Speaker 3: band of Gypsies and the Band of Gypsies this is
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  Speaker 3: one of his later bands, and it's with two black men,
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  Speaker 3: and the music they made is that album is a
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  Speaker 3: live album. It's a really incredible prototypical album where mad
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  Speaker 3: people have like cited it as the beginnings of funk,
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  Speaker 3: as the beginnings of all this stuff. It crosses so
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  Speaker 3: many genres that goes from rock to R and B
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  Speaker 3: to funk to all this stuff. And that was one
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  Speaker 3: of the things we really wanted to focus on, was
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  Speaker 3: that Jimmy was doing all this type of music and
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  Speaker 3: he was doing it as a black man. Because the
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  Speaker 3: Band of Gypsy like has a song machine Gun where
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  Speaker 3: he's talking about the Vietnam War, but at the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of it he says, shout out to all the shoulders
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  Speaker 3: of Chicago and oh yeah, all the shoulders of Vietnam
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  Speaker 3: because he's like first for a fighting a war at home,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And so that's what I wanted to That's
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  Speaker 3: what me and Mellow both really wanted to talk about,
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  Speaker 3: and we really wanted people to recognize that that, you know, peace,
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  Speaker 3: love and drugs and shit is not what Jimmy was.
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  Speaker 3: Jimmy was an ultra talented guitarist to practiced and learned
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  Speaker 3: and studied and was just dedicated to his art. And
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  Speaker 3: then beyond that, he was a black man first. And
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  Speaker 3: that's what I feel like people don't recognize enough.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real. Thank you for saying that. I ain't
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  Speaker 2: say nothing about drugs, but thank you for saying that.
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  Speaker 4: Even that it's because you do the drugs you can
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  Speaker 4: play like Jimmy. And that's.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, even in the book express like it's not
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  Speaker 1: autobiographicle with you, but it's like you're taking pieces of
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  Speaker 1: his life and transforming it into a sci fi story
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  Speaker 1: and right within it you see that, like when he's
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  Speaker 1: being taught as a boy, he's being taught to play,
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  Speaker 1: he is within him, the funk, the soul, all that
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  Speaker 1: is within him and it's something that he has to
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  Speaker 1: tap into. It's not has nothing to do with drugs,
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  Speaker 1: has nothing to do with any outside force.
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  Speaker 2: It's within you.
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  Speaker 1: And that was very clear in this and and to
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  Speaker 1: your point about him not being about about like strictly
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  Speaker 1: peace and love. He is a revolutionary at his heart,
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  Speaker 1: so I do recognize that. So thank you for mentioning that.
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  Speaker 1: And really, I mean and shout out to Tom again,
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  Speaker 1: Like this book sees like you see sound. I talk
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  Speaker 1: about hearing the sound right that lifts off the paper
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  Speaker 1: without you know, actually hearing actual music. You see the
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  Speaker 1: sound of synesthesia right when you see the sound that phenomenon,
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  Speaker 1: And I think Tom portrayed that incredibly well. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: just curious where you and Mellow did you like tell him, hey, yo,
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  Speaker 1: we want this note to jump off the page.
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  Speaker 2: Did he just do that on his own?
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  Speaker 4: Nah? All right? Well this two bars of that.
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  Speaker 3: The first thing is, like I always tell people when
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about this, is when Tom was already on
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  Speaker 3: the book when me and Mellow came on to it.
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  Speaker 3: And so they are first like, we have Tom Mandrake
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  Speaker 3: doing this. And I grew up a child of Marvel Comics,
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  Speaker 3: not as much DC, and when I was growing up,
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  Speaker 3: Tom was heavy on DC, so I had no idea
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  Speaker 3: who he was. When they're like Tom and Drake, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, cool, whatever, And they sent me this image
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  Speaker 3: that's right here on Discover and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, whatever, Tom Mandrack or whatever, and I saw
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  Speaker 3: the Google. I'm like, oh, this he has done everything
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  Speaker 3: and he can drawl like he's a classes. He trained
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  Speaker 3: comic book artists, like he's from the you know ranks
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  Speaker 3: with like Neil Adams, Storenko, John Byrne, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: people who are classic, you know legends.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm like, oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: And then Joe Illoche's right over here, like I remember
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  Speaker 3: when I told Joe at your backyard party and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, yo, Tom Mandre is doing this book, and
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  Speaker 3: Joe's jaw dropped.
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  Speaker 4: Like like straight up dropped.
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  Speaker 3: And then I told my man, Isaac Goodheard, who's a
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  Speaker 3: you know, up and coming fucking legend in the game,
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  Speaker 3: Like Isaac is one of my favorite artists, and he
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  Speaker 3: is just growing and growing. He's so good. And I
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  Speaker 3: told Isaac and he was like, and I think I
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  Speaker 3: told you at one point. And I told and Stephen
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  Speaker 3: Harris over here and he was you know. And it's
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  Speaker 3: like when I tell people like that and they're like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: I mean Tom King. I saw Tom King at San
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  Speaker 3: Diego Comic Con and he was your first books by
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  Speaker 3: Tom Andreid And I'm like, yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Fucking crazy bro. I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how life happens, you know, So I
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  Speaker 3: didn't to lonstory short to get to it. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: tell Tom shit. Well, actually I did. To start, I had,
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  Speaker 3: you know, my strip was like as detailed, and I
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  Speaker 3: come from film directing and things of that nature, so
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  Speaker 3: my strip was more like, Okay, this shot is this,
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  Speaker 3: this panel is this, this panel is this, And in fact,
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  Speaker 3: on the very first page, it's a now that I
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  Speaker 3: can I can talk about these things.
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  Speaker 4: The book is.
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  Speaker 3: It's a four panel because it's a four count. It's
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  Speaker 3: one two three four to the opening of Jimmy's performance
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  Speaker 3: on the Bitchplast page. And so in my head, I'm
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  Speaker 3: thinking of Cowboy Bebops intro, where it's a black screen
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  Speaker 3: and it's bars across one two three four, And that's
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  Speaker 3: how I was imagined in my head, and that's how
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  Speaker 3: I told him that shit. And then when Tom sent
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  Speaker 3: it back to me, it's nothing like that. It's four panels,
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  Speaker 3: but they're not bars. They're completely all over the place
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  Speaker 3: and it's still one two, three four and all the
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  Speaker 3: visual imagery, like I had this idea of Jimmy's sweat
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  Speaker 3: you see dripping down to the drummer and it's making
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  Speaker 3: a pool on the drummer as he's playing.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like.
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  Speaker 3: And it's continuing that, you know, both of them are sweating,
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  Speaker 3: both of them are putting their into it, and it's
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  Speaker 3: like one sweat is pouring into the other.
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  Speaker 4: One will whoop.
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  Speaker 3: And so that was supposed to be one, two, three, four,
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  Speaker 3: and then he doesn't do it, but he still gets
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  Speaker 3: across that visual that the sweat is pouring. And so
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  Speaker 3: when I saw that, I email Tom like, look, man,
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  Speaker 3: I don't give it damn what I write to you.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care what my directors are.
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  Speaker 3: As long as you get kind of a panel count, right,
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  Speaker 3: I'll write the words after that, you know, I'll fit
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  Speaker 3: my script into what you do. And so that's how
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  Speaker 3: we work from then on. And I just accepted, and
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: it was just like, it's I cannot describe that feeling
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  Speaker 3: of seeing his pencils come into email to me. It's
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'll ever have that again, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because it's my first time. And it was like, what
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  Speaker 3: the fuck because it was like I was just planning
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  Speaker 3: the Joe. There's that two page spread after the four
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  Speaker 3: panel spread. It's maybe a paragraph of me, like Hindricks
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  Speaker 3: is playing to a crowd of people. You know, it's
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  Speaker 3: futuristic everything, and most of the people in the crowd
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  Speaker 3: are ignoring everything he's doing. They're on their phones, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: That's probably all I said. I know, it's not more
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  Speaker 3: than a paragraphic description. And then he turns back this
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  Speaker 3: page and there's just stories upon stories and it's art.
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  Speaker 3: There's all these little things that are happening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just like, oh my god, dude, I
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: will say, there's so much like, no matter what kind
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  Speaker 1: of art person you are, what you're interested in, if
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  Speaker 1: you look at this. I don't even want to say
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  Speaker 1: whereas waddle, because I think that's cheapening it. It's like
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  Speaker 1: when you really look at all the detail and like
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  Speaker 1: there's no way you can get it.
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  Speaker 2: In one sitting or even one turn of the page.
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  Speaker 1: You really have to revisit this book over and over
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: to really catch everything that is being illustrated, and even
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: catch things that's being written. Because I know, again you
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: and Mellow have put in so many references and so
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: many easter eggs, and unless you know, you don't know.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: And I think part of this book is what I
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: think it delivers in what you were trying to do,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: which is teaching people who Jimmy really truly is right,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: and then also making people think, you know what, let
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: me dig deeper, let me listen to the music, maybe
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: maybe listen to music while read the book, and then
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: actually make the connections. And I think that's really beautiful
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: about this book. So one more question, one more question
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  Speaker 1: for you. There's so many people here, so many people
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: who come through who have grabbed the book, people who
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: you've known for a long time, people who you just
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: meant today.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: What do you want them to come away with after
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: they read that last page.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: To come back for a sequel? I love that's your
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: character die in the script, then it's a good script.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, no, I would really want them to take
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: away that they enjoyed it, that it was a solid adventure,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: that we tell this whole story. I keep saying my
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: reference point for this is that it's a New Hope,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Like it's a whole story. It's like a Star Wars
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: a New Hope where it's a whole story in itself,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: but it leaves you like, okay, but what happens next?
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: You know, like even though this is a whole complete novel.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, but I need the next one. And
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: that was the point. And then the other thing that
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: I want people to take away from it is the
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: idea about the power of music and the power of
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: like the music has in our daily lives, like the
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: magic of music, and how it influences our thoughts, our actions,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: everything like that, and that we can use it like
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: it's a form of resistance.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Music is a form of resistance, and creating art is
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: a form of resistance. And that's something I really want
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: people to take away from it.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: That's real. Thank you so much, Ben, Ben, so proud
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: of you. This has been a four Nerds exclusive.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I'm interviewed on my own show.