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AEW WrestleDream Preview & Predictions Show · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Cognition six five.
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  Speaker 2: Four three two one zero, all engine running. It's Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with
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  Speaker 2: the aw fanha podcast team. This is Kelson and we
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  Speaker 2: are live on X and on Twitch. If you're on Twitch,
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  Speaker 2: you can chat with us and we'll see it. So
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and chat with this on Twitch. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it works on X. Tonight, we're doing our
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  Speaker 2: aw Wressell Dream preview and prediction show. Guys, are you
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  Speaker 2: looking forward to Wrestle Dream on Saturday at eight pm?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's time. It's it's almost time for Greez.
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  Speaker 2: I apologize already. I've already apologized. Unbelievable. Okay, that was good,
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  Speaker 2: Actually that was really good. Well, let's just start. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna talk about all the matches. I believe there's eight
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  Speaker 2: matches and uh, let's start with the first one. And
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna be Hangman, Adam Page and Samoa Joe for
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  Speaker 2: the a W Men's World Championship. I thought it's really
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  Speaker 2: interesting that they didn't put Men's World Championship on the
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  Speaker 2: onto graphic. They just say aw World Championship. I just
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  Speaker 2: got that just now.
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  Speaker 5: That's like Hangman's thing right now is it's the men's
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  Speaker 5: world championship right right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and Kyle's been doing it too well.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, guys, what do you think about this match? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: as far as a build, what are your overall feelings
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  Speaker 2: about this? Oh?
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  Speaker 7: Boy?
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  Speaker 6: I love both of these guys to death. Hang In
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  Speaker 6: is our beloved cowboy champion, and who doesn't love Samoa
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  Speaker 6: Joe the big old murder machine. But this match is
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  Speaker 6: super predictable. I don't think there's a snowballs chance in
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  Speaker 6: hell of hang In winning the title losing the title
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  Speaker 6: of this junker.
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  Speaker 2: Does everybody else agree with Jess?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? You retictable doesn't mean bad?
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  Speaker 2: No, No, not at all.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the builds simple and it is a particle
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  Speaker 3: result that this is one of those Both of these
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  Speaker 3: guys are rules, So the match is gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 4: No matter what. It's like an action movie. You know
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  Speaker 4: the good guy is gonna win, but you want to
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  Speaker 4: see how he wins.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 8: So so does anybody else think it's interesting that there's
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  Speaker 8: a trios title match this Wednesday before Joe is going
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  Speaker 8: after the world title on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean more portly Barry. Do you think that
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  Speaker 2: the Trios Championship on Wednesday is going to change hands?
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  Speaker 8: I do. I do too think I think, yeah, I
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  Speaker 8: do think it's going to change, and I think it
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  Speaker 8: needs to. First off, I've said on the discord and stuff,
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  Speaker 8: I think the Trios titles needs to be the party titles.
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  Speaker 8: I think they should bounce around. That should when there's
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  Speaker 8: a Trios title match, everybody should get. It should be
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  Speaker 8: on TV, that childs should change a bunch on free TV.
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  Speaker 8: But getting the Trios titles off of Joe, I think
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  Speaker 8: frees him up to go in a new direction. And
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  Speaker 8: while I do believe Hangar retain, I think, especially if
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  Speaker 8: they lose on on Wednesday, there's going to be some
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  Speaker 8: interesting stuff going down with Joe. I think they're going
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  Speaker 8: to be pushing him a little in a little different direction,
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  Speaker 8: and the ops may may have run its course.
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  Speaker 6: Possibly, that's my prediction. Yeah, sounds good. I actually kind
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  Speaker 6: of had a thought. It just sort of struck me.
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  Speaker 6: My husband actually mentioned this to me. You remember when
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  Speaker 6: Mariah May was Women's Champion, and she had some really
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  Speaker 6: good matches, but it seemed like she was kind of
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  Speaker 6: in a holding pattern for when Tony Storm got back,
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  Speaker 6: it sort of seems like hang Man is in the
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  Speaker 6: same sort of holding pattern waiting for MJF to get back.
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  Speaker 2: Agreed, Agreed, No, Seah, I don't think.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's too early to say that, because you know,
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  Speaker 5: MJF just left last week and Hangman has been having
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  Speaker 5: some good matches.
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  Speaker 9: I don't see it that way yet. I think it's
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  Speaker 9: too early to say that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there was one person very he could be a
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  Speaker 2: chance because there was one person that said that samo
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  Speaker 2: Joe has a chance on this Who was that?
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  Speaker 10: I mean, I was saying that this match wasn't predictable.
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  Speaker 10: I feel like he could, honest to god, go either way.
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  Speaker 10: Hang Man could win it, Samoa Joe could win it.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, you have to understand hang Man's mean kind
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  Speaker 10: of built.
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  Speaker 7: It's like a very credible champion. And while samo Joe
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  Speaker 7: may be a murder machine, that doesn't mean he's the
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  Speaker 7: win all the time machine. Okay, there's a chance on
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  Speaker 7: both equal sides, and plus it makes it more interesting.
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  Speaker 7: As Barry mentioned before, with the trios titles, he loses
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  Speaker 7: the Trios titles, that puts even more intrigue. Is he
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  Speaker 7: gonna win it is. He not gonna win it. It's
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  Speaker 7: just stuff that we have to consenter.
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  Speaker 5: The only thing that I think is gonna be I don't,
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  Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know that LFI is gonna win
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  Speaker 5: the titles on Wednesday for the simple fact that they're
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  Speaker 5: more on ro Oh than they are on AW. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: Samy hasn't been on a a W since what two
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  Speaker 5: pay per views or three pay per years ago when
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  Speaker 5: him and Dustin wrestled for the tight titles. But and
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  Speaker 5: that was an RH match, So I don't know. I
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  Speaker 5: can see it happening, but I just I don't think
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  Speaker 5: Hangman's losing the title with this this early.
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  Speaker 9: I just don't see it that.
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  Speaker 8: I agree Jess had mentioned some stuff and a couple
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  Speaker 8: couple other folks. I think Joe being here is on purpose.
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  Speaker 8: I don't necessarily think it's a holding pattern. I am
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  Speaker 8: a little disappointed it's a shorter program, but sometimes you
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  Speaker 8: gotta do things the way you need to do things.
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  Speaker 8: This is about having Hangar have several defenses against world
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  Speaker 8: champions to really define what type of champion he is.
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  Speaker 8: Because like he's beating Max twice, he's gonna beat Joe
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  Speaker 8: and then MJF is after that. So if your defenses
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  Speaker 8: are against former champs, like that is as tough as
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  Speaker 8: it gets. And then the other piece is going back
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  Speaker 8: to the to the Alifi thing that you mentioned. They
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  Speaker 8: haven't been on TV, but there's no time like the present,
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  Speaker 8: right he had mentioned or Ruche had mentioned expanding the group.
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  Speaker 8: I think the initial plan was to have Pablo Escobar
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  Speaker 8: come in or wait, that's not his name. Was his
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  Speaker 8: name Santos Escobar.
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  Speaker 2: Santos probably come in initially on Wednesday to help them
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  Speaker 2: win the belts.
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  Speaker 8: He resigned with WWE, so that's out the door. But
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  Speaker 8: I don't change that. I still pull the trigger and
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  Speaker 8: have them pick up the belts and then they're on
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  Speaker 8: TV again. To your point, sudden, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I can see that. Like like I said, I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: I just don't think.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of like your idea that that hangers facing
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  Speaker 5: other world champions to build who he is.
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  Speaker 9: You can even throw Kenny Omega in there if you
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  Speaker 9: wanted to.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's how I see.
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  Speaker 5: Kenny's wrestling tomorrow with Jurassic Express, So you know there's
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  Speaker 5: he's not you know, they kept making a big deal
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  Speaker 5: about how they were gonna have him wrestle.
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  Speaker 9: I can't remember it was now, but they were.
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  Speaker 5: For the TNT title against because they didn't want to
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  Speaker 5: do that at this time because of his help. But
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  Speaker 5: he can still go, so he could be the next
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  Speaker 5: guy that gets it. Even if that's on television, that's
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  Speaker 5: still I mean, you still have that and unfortunately with
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  Speaker 5: the sword being out, he can't do that one.
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  Speaker 9: But yeah, it's gonna be very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's go to Steve. Steve, you've been trying to
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  Speaker 2: say something, so go ahead.
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  Speaker 11: Oh no, I agree with Barry's assessment with Hangman's title ring.
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  Speaker 11: That's how I see his title ring right now, like
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  Speaker 11: he's just gonna show how good of a champion he
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  Speaker 11: really is.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, look, personally, I think this is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a great match, but I just don't see Hangman
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  Speaker 2: losing the title. But as somebody said, it was a
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  Speaker 2: jest that said it. Just because Hangman isn't going to
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  Speaker 2: lose this title doesn't mean it's not going to be
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  Speaker 2: an enjoyable match. I'm looking for this match to be
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  Speaker 2: a banker. I just don't think that the title is
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  Speaker 2: going to change hands. Let's move on to the next match,
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  Speaker 2: which is going to be Chris Statlander defending the AW
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  Speaker 2: Women's World Championship against Tony Storm. I kind of see
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  Speaker 2: this the same way as I see the Hangman and
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  Speaker 2: Samoa Joe match. It's going to be a great match,
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  Speaker 2: but this is more of a match to me that's
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  Speaker 2: going to verify Chris Statlander as the AW Women's World
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  Speaker 2: Championship champion. Tony Storm is not going to win this match,
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  Speaker 2: and if they. If Tony Storm wins this match, it's okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's great, you know, but in my mind, it would
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  Speaker 2: be somewhat of a mistake.
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  Speaker 6: Agreed. I love Tony, she is my queen. She's probably
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  Speaker 6: my favorite women's wrestler in the whole wide wide world
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  Speaker 6: right now. But she just lost the time. They're not
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  Speaker 6: going to pinball it right back to her after Chris
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  Speaker 6: just won it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I definitely. I don't think that Tony's
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  Speaker 1: going to win it back, and I don't want her to.
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  Speaker 1: And I love Tony Storm just like you. I get it.
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  Speaker 1: But ultimately though, I think this is perfect for Chris Statlander,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to put her name, like her name really
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  Speaker 1: out there and defeat the three time you know, world
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  Speaker 1: Women's World champion, like this will really submit her maybe
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  Speaker 1: kind of like a Tony Storm passing the torch kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Believe it's a four time champion by the way, Storm, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she's a four time.
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  Speaker 8: You can you should look at this as really their
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  Speaker 8: first title match, like kind of set the three way
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  Speaker 8: aside because Chris pinned Tony, but she didn't face her
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  Speaker 8: face to face, and that's Tony's whole thing is like,
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  Speaker 8: we're going to get to go, and I think you're
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  Speaker 8: spot on. This is about establishing Chris as a as
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  Speaker 8: a as a significant champ, much like they're doing with
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  Speaker 8: Hanger Feet in them Joe, and they'll put on a
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  Speaker 8: good They'll put on a great match. I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 8: shocked if some heels postmatch try to do some stuff
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  Speaker 8: and Tony makes the same with Chris and we get
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  Speaker 8: some fun tag matches out of that too.
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  Speaker 2: But interesting Storm. Anybody else with thoughts on the Chris
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  Speaker 2: Statlander and Tony Storm match.
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  Speaker 4: I pretty much agree with what everyone else said. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Tony is great, but she doesn't need to win the title.
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  Speaker 7: Facts.
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  Speaker 4: This is about establishing Statley and I mean the match
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  Speaker 4: is gonna be great. Those two there's no way it's
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  Speaker 4: not gonna be awesome barring something catastaut, but that's another
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  Speaker 4: one with a predictable wiman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I've said multiple times on this podcast that, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Tony Storm is such a talent and her character is
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  Speaker 2: so strong she does not need a title to be relevant.
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  Speaker 2: So I just don't see Tony Storm winning. This is
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  Speaker 2: a This is a match that meant to validate Christa.
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  Speaker 5: Lander, and it also gives Tony another way too, because
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  Speaker 5: after the loss, I mean, you know, she was so
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  Speaker 5: like I couldn't believe it, so she was despondent. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and it gives her a way to like she does
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  Speaker 5: that with her character. She did it when she lost
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  Speaker 5: to Mariah May, I mean she disappears for a little while.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think she'll do that this time, but it's
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  Speaker 5: a it's just more layers upon layers for her, and
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  Speaker 5: she's so amazing at it.
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  Speaker 2: All right. That Well, let's move on to the next match,
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  Speaker 2: and that match is Kyle Pletcher against Mark Briscoe for
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  Speaker 2: the T and T Championship.
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  Speaker 12: This is one I'm actually looking forward to. I'm excited
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  Speaker 12: to see them together.
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  Speaker 6: It's going to be so much fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, who said people are thinking this
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  Speaker 2: could go either way?
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  Speaker 8: I think so, I think it could. I agree, Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: I can see.
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  Speaker 2: Barry go ahead.
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  Speaker 8: I could see this being I was with the others
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  Speaker 8: that I thought this was a sure Kyle thing, but
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  Speaker 8: have after how they really focused on Mark and looking
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  Speaker 8: at his push. I could see this as a quick
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  Speaker 8: title switcheroo where Mark gets it and then Kyle gets
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  Speaker 8: it right back, gives fans a moment, gives Mark a moment.
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  Speaker 8: I don't see Mark as the type of performer at
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  Speaker 8: this point. It's a long term chance, but he's the
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  Speaker 8: kind of guy that if you're going to pull a
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  Speaker 8: surprise switcheroo to give some fans a fun moment, and
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  Speaker 8: then you know, Kyle, maybe even on TV a couple
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  Speaker 8: of weeks later, wins it back. I could see that.
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  Speaker 8: So I'm a little less thinking Kyle ratines than I
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  Speaker 8: would have been maybe two weeks ago. But I still
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  Speaker 8: think he keeps it.
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  Speaker 7: Personally, I'd say, let Mark Risko hold the title for
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  Speaker 7: sixty nine days.
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  Speaker 13: And what is the relevance of sixty nine days He's
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  Speaker 13: got to count up to it tomorrow?
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  Speaker 2: Is yeah?
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  Speaker 12: Oh boy?
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  Speaker 8: I mean it's a great idea.
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  Speaker 2: Once once, once again to our for our audience. I
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  Speaker 2: I apologize for these guys. It's gonna be one of
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  Speaker 2: those nights. Now we're getting into the matches that probably
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  Speaker 2: we'll have more of that kind of conversation. Now, Look,
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  Speaker 2: Mark Briscoe, love the guy complex, has gotta win this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see Mark Briscoe as T and T champion
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  Speaker 2: or any other type of champion other than maybe because
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  Speaker 2: he's not going to do tag team. I think that
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  Speaker 2: putting Mark Briscoe in a T and T championship belt
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  Speaker 2: is a step backward, and and a W doesn't need
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  Speaker 2: a step backward.
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  Speaker 6: You don't think he deserves it?
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  Speaker 2: No, I do not see.
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  Speaker 14: I got to disagree he's if if he's He's had
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  Speaker 14: a lot of matches in a W this year and
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  Speaker 14: he's lost most of them.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, so I but personally, I personally do not believe
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  Speaker 15: he should have this shot.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, really good matches like this is going to
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  Speaker 4: be another really good match. Kyle Flitzer should win.
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  Speaker 5: Manby two said in the chat he did have a
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  Speaker 5: huge win over over MGF earlier. So you know, like
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  Speaker 5: I said, they like Barry said, they they're pushing him
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  Speaker 5: and I totally agree that this is one of those
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  Speaker 5: things where he wins the match today or on Saturday,
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  Speaker 5: and then on the next Saturday they rematch, Kyle beats em.
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  Speaker 9: Just to give Mark you know, hey.
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  Speaker 5: He hasn't had a title in a W and when
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  Speaker 5: his brother died, I mean literally, he has There's no
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  Speaker 5: other there's He's never going to wrestle a tag team again.
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  Speaker 5: So this is probably the only opportunity in ae W
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  Speaker 5: that he's gonna have to have a title.
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  Speaker 8: This his only opportunity, and.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and the thing is this also could knock Kyle
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  Speaker 5: Fletcher down a notch because Kyle Fletcher is getting a.
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  Speaker 8: Little bit data.
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  Speaker 2: Sure you can't.
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  Speaker 8: You got to keep the rocket on that guy. Dude,
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  Speaker 8: He's he's the future, the storm you were chiming in.
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  Speaker 8: I want to hand the mic over here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I agree that Kyle Fletcher. I think he
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  Speaker 1: completely has us in the bag. And I love Mark Briscow,
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  Speaker 1: I really do. But Kyle Fletcher is on such a
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  Speaker 1: high right now, and like you said, Barry, you got
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  Speaker 1: to keep him on that high. Yeah, Like he is
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  Speaker 1: like the future of AW He's the future for wrestling.
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  Speaker 1: You can see it. It's scary at times and how
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  Speaker 1: good he is. But yeah, no, I think he's going
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  Speaker 1: to retain. I think they need to keep that high
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  Speaker 1: on him.
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  Speaker 8: Kelson. I think you kind of split in the difference
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  Speaker 8: here because I like Mark and they really want Mark
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  Speaker 8: to be like that upper mid card job under the stars,
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  Speaker 8: mister perfect type level. I don't think he's got enough
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  Speaker 8: to get above that, and that type of level is
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  Speaker 8: perfect for the TNT title and in retrospect, while I
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  Speaker 8: think a switcheroo would be fun with the little short
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  Speaker 8: term run and give the fans a moment to your point, Kelson,
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  Speaker 8: and like what Storms saying, I do think you need
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  Speaker 8: to keep that momentum with Kyle going, so I wouldn't
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  Speaker 8: be shocked, But I think you're right Kelson, like he
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  Speaker 8: they need to keep that rocket on.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, let me explain myself, Barry a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: The last big match that Kyle Fletcher had was against
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  Speaker 2: who Hangman Adam Paige, and he lost, all right, he
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  Speaker 2: lost his bid for the aw Men's World Championship. If
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  Speaker 2: he loses the TNT Championship and the very next pay
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  Speaker 2: per view, then what's the point of having Kyle Fletcher anymore,
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  Speaker 2: just release him because he's not the future anymore. You've
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  Speaker 2: got to establish him as the future. You can't swipe
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  Speaker 2: that out from underneath him. The only way that it
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  Speaker 2: happens with Mark Brisco winning and Kyle Fletcher losing is
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  Speaker 2: if Kyle Fletcher just abandons the Don Kallis family and
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  Speaker 2: just goes insane.
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  Speaker 8: So this is is this going to be another pay
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  Speaker 8: per view? And maybe this is outn't we should say
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  Speaker 8: this for later? But will this be another pay per
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  Speaker 8: view where there's no belts that switch? Like? That's why
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  Speaker 8: I'm looking at the TNT title too. But like point Kyle,
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  Speaker 8: I just I totally agreed. You gotta keep Kyle like
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  Speaker 8: at that level because he is going to be one
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: of the guys. So does that mean the tag titles
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: switch that we're going to talk about next or are
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: there are there no title switches to that? And I
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: think that's a problem with some of the aw shows too.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing, here's the thing. Yeah, you got to
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: keep him at that level. But it's not gonna hurt
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: him to lose this title and win it back the
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: next week. It won't hurt him at all because it
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: will just prove that he he is the future, and
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: he does have a future because he's been able to
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: come back overcome a minor blipping the road, and you
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: can just go for the I mean, yeah, I get
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: what you're saying about. Yeah, you got to keep the
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: rocket on him. But you but you have so many
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: things going on in the don Kallis family right now.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: You have a new i GP World heavyweight champion in
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: the Don Kallis family.
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: So you know, do you take the risk though?
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: I mean yeah, you do, because like I said, you
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: take I take the risk because it Mark Briscoe a
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: little tiny run gives the fans who are way behind
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: him right now, Like you said, Barry, he gives.
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: Them a little thrill.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: And then Kyle comes back the next time he wrestles him,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: and he could just stomp a mud hole in him,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: beat the living crap out of him and say, look
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: I had I had a small blitz.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Well let me let me interject something here. You said
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: that the fans are behind Mark Briscoe. I truly believe,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: even though Kyle Fletcher is a heel, I do believe
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that the fans are more behind Kyle Fletcher than they
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: are Mark Briscow.
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: I don't know. I just think.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Right now Mark Mark Briscoe is not the future of
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: a w Kyle Fletcher is and you can't and you
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: can't have him Kyle Fletcher take two big losses in
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: a row that would totally unvindicate him.
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: That That's what convinced me, Kelson when you pointed that out,
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: Like that was the piece that I wasn't connecting before
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: you brought it up. And I really think that's a
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: fantastic point, Kelson, I really do.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: I think you sold me to Like sometimes it's good
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: to put smiles on faces, yeah, but yeah, not at
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: the expense of Kyle's push right now.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you can still work this, like Sutton said, like Okay,
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: maybe now's not the time for that. You know, maybe
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: it's still Brisco's the guy, but it's three months from
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: now where Kyle's been firmly established, he's got significant wins. Dudes,
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: dude's a badass. Maybe that's that face turn while he's
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: moving out of the don callis family starts at that point.
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: But like you can still do it three months from
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: now and give it the fans that just going in space.
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: But I think Kelson, you changed my opinion, like is
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: he needs that one.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: The only way that Fletcher loses this match is if
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: next week's Dynamite he beat Tagman Adam Paige where the
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: aw Men's were championship.
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: Or he gets hurt and they do the count out finish.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: So let's move on to our fourth match, which is
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the aw World Tag Team Championship. Brodido going against Knoski,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Takeshta and Kazuka Kazuchka. I'm sorry, Okata, uh. I think
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: this is the match of the night. This is the
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: one that I'm looking forward to the most. This is
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: the one. This is the match. What do you guys say?
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Because I have my opinions, but I want to hear
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: your yours first.
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: I think and after the match are immediately going to
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: nuclear wave on each other, just gonna split the don
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: Kwis family.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: King.
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: I think that there are disagreements Okada and and and Takeshta.
• 22:59
  Speaker 12: They're just agreement is going to interfere into this match
• 23:04
  Speaker 12: and keep them from winning. They're they're at odds and
• 23:08
  Speaker 12: it's it's going to not have their minds on beating
• 23:12
  Speaker 12: band Broddo. So and I agree that right after this match,
• 23:18
  Speaker 12: they're going to blame one another for the loss, and
• 23:21
  Speaker 12: it's going to begin to fracture the Callus family a lot.
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: So I'm looking.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: Forward, yes, oh thank you. Yep aw's Hottest Tag Team
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: versus A e W's Hottest Tag Team?
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Which is which?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say which one?
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: Are we talking about?
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Who gets?
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: Who gets?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Who gets the per That's what I want to know.
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: It's anyone's guest.
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: No, I did.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: Okada and Takeshtar are very very very very pretty men,
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: very pretty. They're not going to win this match though,
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: for the reasons that Ned already said doubt. They're going
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: to start fighting each other and there's too much to
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: send you. We obviously don't like each other, and uh,
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: tag teams who don't like each other don't stay, don't
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: tag matches, or at least not always.
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: There's there's four champions in this match now, and I
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: had a completely different perspective for this match before take
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: won the title. This weekend, like, it's just completely different.
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: So I'm watching and I'm looking at this match now
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: and I'm questioning where the Takesha that Okada match occurs.
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: I thought it was going to be on an AW show,
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: but with take is the iw GP champ? Does that
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: happen at Ruscllo Kingdom of January now against Okada? Like,
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: does Tony give New Japan a solid because they need
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: that draw? That that's the match they run any rate
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: back to this one. I'm with everybody else, I think,
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: especially since they ate the pin this week that uh
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: bandido or what do they called brodido?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Brodida retains?
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Brodida retains. I'm fascinated on who takes the pin.
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: I don't think you pinned the just crowned IWGP champion,
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: and I don't know how you pin Okada here? So
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: what do you think the finishes? Is there a pin?
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: Does it end in a no DQ because they start
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: fighting with each other? Is it a count out?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: How do you how do you book the finish to this?
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: I'm honestly curious what you guys think, because I don't
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: know what direction they go.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: What are the usual time limits for a champion for
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: a tag Championship match?
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: Is it sixty do they state that?
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: I'm just wondering because I could actually see it going
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: to a time limit draw.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: As far as I know, it's sixteen minutes for all,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: But the E and t TV. I think those are
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: both twenty. The Continental was twenty, but since it's not
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: around anymore, it doesn't I don't think it. Or they
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: may be using those rules for the Unified. I'm not
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: completely sure the Continental. As far as I know, the
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Continental rules applied to the to the to that title.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Now that's they've been OK, we're getting a little off
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: topic here. Well yeah, way, we're way off topic here.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Let's stick.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Who's the reason I asked that because I agree with
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: Burry one?
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: How do you have either one of those two take
• 26:47
  Speaker 9: the take the fall?
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: The only other option I can see happening is it's
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: a double It's a double pin. They just take it
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: some people where they knock them both down and each
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: guy pins one of the other guys.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: And but who what I mean didn't matter?
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: Ocadoes, they won toll matter.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: It really really does matter.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Octag fall provided that him and to test to get
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: into it, leaving Brotido time to kind of recover. They
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: kind of beat each other to catch the halls Off
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: hits raging fire. Rodido hits that crazy four monkey flip
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: four fifty one two three to catch the you know,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: beat and leave.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well look let me let me break in here.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: If you guys saw it, Don Kallas just had his
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: sixty second birthday celebration. Kenoski Takeshta was in Japan for
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the iw GP Championship match agains Zach Saber Junior, which
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: he won, so he did not actually get a chance
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: to uh to, he did actually not get a chance
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: to be a be there to celebrate with. I'm sorry
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I had to mute Barry because he was making a
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: lot of noise. Uh you were. But anyway, so during
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: this they did have a video of Kenoskate Takeshta wishing
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Don Calisa anniversary, which cut off because because Okada turned
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: it off, I hit the wrong button. I'm so sorry,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: you know so So in this particular match, I don't
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: believe that Okada at Takeshta give a rat's ass about
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: beating Brodido at all. I think they have every intention
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: of beating the crap out of each other. This is
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: where this is going. They're going to beat each other
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: and cause each other to lose. It really does not
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: matter who takes the pin here be what matters is
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: who causes the other to take the pin the most.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I do believe that Takesha is gonna go babyface and
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be as simple as that. And I liked
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Barrie's idea that we're gonna see maybe Takeshta Dokata at
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Russell Kingdom twenty.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I like that a lot, and especially you
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: have already been announced the Cask's place got on November second,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: so that'll give them a defense already. And honestly, there's
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: not really another good Kingdom match up.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing that the only thing that will
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: put a little bit of a kebash on that Barry
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: is that if you remember Russell Kingdom and Russell Dream
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: earlier this year. I believe it was on January fifth,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Ocatta did not appear, and when he was asked why
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: he didn't appear, Okada simply said, I have no intention
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: of wrestling ever again in Japan. So that that was
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: that was basically it. So that being said, if he
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: still feels that way, then I don't think you can
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: see to catch that Akata at Russell Uh at Russell Kingdom.
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe not. I just that's that would really help
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: New Japan out if they could do that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: But at that point, right, yeah, yeah, I was thinking
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: he was already at steal at that point, So that's
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: something a heel would Okay, Yeah, is.
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: Is there a new Japan show in America again? Between
• 31:05
  Speaker 9: now and then?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: They are doing a new Japan show in America. They
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: did announce that, but I for I did really look
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: at the date. I February that yes, that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: February, that'll be when it happens, if there will be true.
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: I honestly don't think that what Okada said was was
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: it was a work.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: I think he I think he was straight telling it
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: like it is because from the thing, the way I
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: took it is he is just done with Japan because
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's anything that to prove there. I mean,
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: come on, the man's won everything and anything you could
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: win when he's in Japan. What's the what, What's what's
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: the business to go back? He's an America now, he
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: doesn't want to go back, so there, I just think
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: it'll be the American show.
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: Okada giving Takesha to the rub in Japan at Russell
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: Kingdom would be a huge deal for New Japan, no
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: doubt Japanese wrestling and Takesha to understands significance of that
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: and I not to catch up. I'm seeing Okada understands
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: the significance of that, and if it was pushed and
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: they are all in on this being a passing of
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: the torch, so to speak. I do think he participate.
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: Don't know if that's how that they approach their taking.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: Performers understand the significance at that moment.
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: I get that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: But here's the thing we're assuming. You guys are talking
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: like they're going for the iw GP title. That's not
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: the title they're going to be going for. They're gonna
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: be going for Okada's title. When these two face off.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: It's not gonna be for the i w GP title.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: It's going to be for ocudas title. So it's not
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: gonna be in Japan, it's gonna be in It's probably
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: going to be the last pay per view of the
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: year here. That's what they're gonna They're not gonna get
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: They're not gonna put the i w GP.
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: Title back on a Kada. There's just that's just not
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: gonna happen.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Well, it may not be. It may not happen, but
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean they could be the match.
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: I'm telling you title.
• 32:57
  Speaker 12: I remember a while back we were talking on the
• 33:00
  Speaker 12: podcast before Okada won, and one of the things a
• 33:05
  Speaker 12: lot of us were saying was that we wanted to
• 33:09
  Speaker 12: see a champion that moved around and went to different
• 33:15
  Speaker 12: promotions and defended. So I think it would be good
• 33:20
  Speaker 12: for him to be at Russell Kingdom with Takeshta, And
• 33:25
  Speaker 12: I think it's kind of also passing the torch to
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: Takeshta in Japanese wrestling, So I think that if anything
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: happens between them, it happens there.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: And also, you don't.
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: Forget there is the continent, the Continental Tournament coming up
• 33:41
  Speaker 9: to the.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Other see too well, you know, to Net's point, when
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I look at Takesha, I kind of have to compare
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: him with Kyle Pletcher. Tequsha is the future. Okada isn't,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: right right, you know? Although Okada is on a different
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: level than on I'm not I'm not saying a different level,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: but another kind of level, different personality, different style, everything
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: than Mark Briscoe of course. But but let's let's move
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: on to our next match.
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: How old is I think he's like it is like
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: thirty fourish, only thirty seven. I thought Ocanna was older
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: than that he's got.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: He just started wrestling when he was like sixteen.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean when you look at wrestlers,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: when you look at wrestler's age, I think you have
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: to look at wear and tear, the years of wear
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: and tear, you know, instead of you know how many
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: birthdays they've had. So moving on to the next match.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: This one's kind of interesting. Darby Allen and John Moxley
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: in an I quit match. No title involved here. Uh,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: you know what. John Moxley has a reputation of quitting.
• 35:01
  Speaker 11: He does.
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: He quit? He quit?
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Uh, he quite against hang Many.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: It's true, can be half help. He's never actually said
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: the words I quit.
• 35:18
  Speaker 16: That's a well, I know, I know, it's just really
• 35:22
  Speaker 16: distin but there there's a difference, Like there's actually having
• 35:28
  Speaker 16: to look at him and say I quit, I give
• 35:32
  Speaker 16: up your betters, and that's different than just halving your
• 35:37
  Speaker 16: shoulder to get out of it.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's done the old shoulder tap twice now
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: with hang Man. I remember both times were dangling off
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: the side of the out the side of the ring
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: with the chain wrapped around his neck. But but that
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: has happened.
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: I think that's the finish I think the finish is
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: is passing out. He doesn't tap, he doesn't say equity
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: passes out, and they call the match, and then that
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: continues to feud. It's him screaming I never said the words,
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: I never quit. I never said the.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Words he didn't. Is that part of the stipulation though, Barry,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the rules pass out in an
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: equip matches?
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: You do, you lose?
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: Go ahead, Okay, thank you. We all know, probably all
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: know about this, but just for the benefit of some
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: of our younger listeners who may not have seen this,
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Once upon a time, it was a very famous equip
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: match between The Rock and mcfoley, and in order to
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: win that match, mcfoley, being the insane death match sicko
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: that he was and probably still is, he, mcfoley had
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: to be made to pass out and The Rock wound
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: up using a recording of mcfoley's voice saying the words
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: I QUI it and that counted. So if we see
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: something similar to that, it wouldn't shock me.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: There was another one, Jess, Jess. There was another one
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: also in WWE, where I can't remember who it was.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I know it was Edge, but I can't remember who
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: his opponent was for the life of me. It just
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: escapes me. But Edge was made to say I quit
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: because his opponent had Beth Phoenix in a compromising position
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: like I'm going to slash your throat kind of position,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: and Edge, to protect his wife, said I quit. What
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: if John Moxley becomes human and they're fighting backstage. Remember
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: this is an I quit match. It's going to go everywhere.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: What if Darby Allen accidentally gets, you know, Renee Piquette
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: in a compromising kind of situation and John Moxley, to
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: protect Renee Piquette, says I quit. Just putting that out
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: there in a little bit. It doesn't I'm just putting
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: it up there, and I don't know.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: There's also one key difference there. The person who when
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: it edges wife was a heel. Darby's the face. He
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: can't do ship like that. Yes, he's crazy. He can
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: threaten to burn people alive. But maybe Moxley would quit
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: for a protege, not Willard. You to of course, who
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Darby should threaten first, and Mosley shrugs his shoulders. But
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: then when Darby threatens the new kid Garcia, then Moxley's
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: like no, no, not cool man, not cool.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I quit.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: Darby.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Darby can win this match without backup, Like,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: who's going to help him?
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: It's you know, him versus the Death Writers.
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: We all know this.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: Who's going to have Darby back?
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Because I don't see him winning if somebody doesn't have
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Darby's back.
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: Is the icon.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I was hoping. I was thinking Sting possibly too. I
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: hope you're right Nelson so much. I hope you're right
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I do think that Sting is going to make an
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: appearance in AW, because he did say that at the
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty five he is not going to
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: be wearing the face paint anymore. I think at the
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty five, we are going to see
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: you know, Sting back at AW in the face paint,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: participating in something, not necessarily in a match, but maybe
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: in a ceremony or something like that.
• 39:46
  Speaker 12: But I do think we'll say, wouldn't it be great?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Go ahead?
• 39:55
  Speaker 12: Net Sorry, if Sting came out as a distraction, let's
• 40:00
  Speaker 12: just say he distracted the Death Riders, Mocksley whoever, and
• 40:04
  Speaker 12: his sons actually helped Darby.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I would I would really like to see Steve Borden
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: stings son come out and help Darby in this match,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: and as you said, have the actual real Sting up
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: at the raptors as a distraction and kind of a
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: passing into torch thing.
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: I would love he's not What if he's not actually
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: in the rafters. What if he is Kelson, just Steve
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: Bordon and they're they're battling in the crowd or whatever,
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: you know, as they do in these matches, and he
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: bumps into some guy moxtas and he turns around and
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: he's going to give the guy the business, but oh
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: lo and behold, it's not just some guy. It's Steve Borden,
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: you know. And then whoever tells us it's Sting and
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: he gets a couple of punches in or whatever. So
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: that kind of opens the door to his family being
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: there to have Darby's back without it actually being Sting,
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: and then his son can do that run in later
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: to help him win. I'd love to see him.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: That would be cool to.
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: Just yeah, random, oh my god, that's not just any
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: dude that's Sting, that's Steve Borden.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: That would be cool. I will admit that that would
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: be me.
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: I like the idea of kid helping I think that's
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: who was that was that storm or who said that?
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: I like that idea a lot sting son helping Darby.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Well, well let's move one because we've got yet another match.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: This one's pretty interesting, the Young Bucks versus Jurassic Express. Uh,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: somebody is typing really loud.
• 41:47
  Speaker 17: Oh no, that's just me spamming the raised hand button
• 41:49
  Speaker 17: because I want to speak first and the loudest about
• 41:53
  Speaker 17: this topic. I have not gotten to talk about jungle
• 41:56
  Speaker 17: Jack Perry in two years. For the veterans who watch
• 42:00
  Speaker 17: the podcast for a long time, Okay, listen, Jurassic Express
• 42:04
  Speaker 17: are going to freaking body the Young Bucks so bad
• 42:08
  Speaker 17: that they are actually going to look like a jobbers,
• 42:11
  Speaker 17: and they will become number one contenders for the Tag
• 42:13
  Speaker 17: team Championships.
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: Are gonna win that. They're gonna bell collect everything and
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: depend them on exploding Bardwark cage matches. It's gonna be
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: so awesome.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're gonna get help from Griff Garrison at
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Returning lalor Hurst. Yes, we know, Lauren, what happened. Nobody's talking.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I'll go.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: I think Jurassic Express wins it, just for the simple
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: fact that you don't want them to loseing their their
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: second match back.
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: They have nothing to I mean, the Young Bucks have nothing.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: To prove by getting a win. This is a chance
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: for them to do what they do best is put
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: somebody over. So I think they're gonna win it. I
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: think it's gonna be a good match. But I definitely
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: think Durrassic Express winds.
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: And besides, poor Bucks are way too funny to stop now.
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree, the Bucks are a lot more fun
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: when they're broke, and I think you're right if you
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: want to get Terressic Express off to a strong start
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: and then doing the job here, it doesn't really make
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: a lot of sense, so i'd like I still think
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: they should have done the butler stipulation I had a
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: couple of weeks ago, or the Young Bucks have to
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: be somebody's butler if they use but I think Express win.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go against the grade here. I think
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: the Young Bucks win this match. The reason why is, yes,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: they're really good at putting people over, and anybody just
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: says that they're not, it just doesn't watch the show.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: But the Young Bucks are very very good putting talent over. However,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: if you lose all the time, you're not really putting
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: anybody over. You've got to win and have a future
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: match against Lucasaurus and and Jack Perry to put them over.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Then I think putting them over in this match would
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: be kind of expected and kind of a waste of
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: the match.
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, they did win, they want all that money,
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: and then.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Matt blew it all in the casino.
• 44:16
  Speaker 12: That's why will win. They need that money. That's their incentive.
• 44:22
  Speaker 12: So I think they'll win this match.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: I'm following Brandon Tyler's advice and venting against the Young
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Bucks on pay per view.
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean like like the Young Bucks, like, listen,
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: they do not need that money. Okay, Jurassic Express they
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: need that money.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: They need it well, yeah, they needed to fund Jack
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: Kerry's secret evil scientists laugh his woodworking.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: Making skills.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I think we all could agree that the Young Bucks
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: need the money a lot more than than the Jurassic
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Expressed US.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Shoes.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: Look, if they if they if they get the money,
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: then Nick is just gonna blow in the casino.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Do we really want to fund Nick?
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: They met whichever Jackson's gambling addiction?
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: Are we really that like Nick Nicholas.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: Jack Perry.
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, don't get fined. It's Nicholas.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: Okay, yes, I would. I would rather fund of Jack
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: Perry's blacksmith forge then Nicholas Jackson's gambling addiction.
• 45:39
  Speaker 15: Agreed.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I stand by my pick. I'm going with the
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: young bucks. One question.
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: One question on these guys for Jack Perry, what's the
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: what's the crowds live here? On his his leather knife
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: holster that doesn't ever have a bowie knife in it? Like,
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: what are you guys thinking about that?
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: It's probably in see I'm Punk's back. I don't know.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Neguratively speaking, I thought.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: We're took his knife.
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: Away, Okay, I didn't think last week. It would makes
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: sense if he had like a plastic knife or something
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: that he takes off or just takes the off. I
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: don't understand leaving the bell time with that big leather thing.
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: It's just distract.
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: It'd be funny if you had like a plastic cutlery
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: knife in it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 11: Pulls, that would be funny.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Barry, I want to revisit something if you have,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: If you don't mind.
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: I just want to see everybody later.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I did want to point out that Barry was
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: tickled by Pac calling Darby Allen a piece of clap
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: the other night. I believe that's what he said. I
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: and I just want to get your go ahead and
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: give you time to say how much you love that
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: and put you on the spot. I don't remember that
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: you went off on discord about just how much you
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: loved that. I was like, okay, yes you did. You're like,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: oh what he said called the Darby al and a
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: piece of piece of crap. It had your role and
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, get in. I just thought it
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: was funny. I just want to give you an opportunity
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: to laugh about it some more. But but he doesn't
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: remember it. He's getting old, folks, He's getting old. Yeah.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: So the next match, this one is interesting. I like
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: this match and that it's a big time match with
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: no title involved. Tecla against Jamie Hayter. If you remember
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: when Chris Statlerder Did Pat Did Pin Tony Storm to
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: win the aw Women's World Championship, Techlan taken Jamie Hayter
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: out of the match by spearing her off the rig
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: apron onto the floor, which allowed Chris Statland to then
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: go face to face with UH with Tony storm So.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: And also remember that it was Techlar who took out
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Jamie Hater when she debuted. When Techla debuted, uh, giving
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Hayter, you know, some time to combalesce from an injury,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: so they have some big time that is something. So
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: you've got Tecla taking out Jamie Hayter was one thing.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Then you had Techla taking out Jamie Hayter in the
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: four way for the Women's World Championship. That's another thing.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Then you've got Techlan Jami Hayter probably going to face
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: each other in the Women's Blood and Guts on November twelve.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: So this match is actually quite cool to me. What
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: do you guys think?
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Like this a straight up slobry not here, like you
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: were gonna eat rap out of each other. And it's
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: gonna be awesome. And I have no idea who's gonna win.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: And that's great.
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: I think Techla's gonna win because the her sisters are
• 49:12
  Speaker 9: gonna get involved.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't you think that Jimmy Haters gonna have
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: some backup too.
• 49:19
  Speaker 9: I don't think that she's coming to the ring with backup.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: You know that the other two are gonna be with Tecla.
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: You know, Skott Blue is coming down with her, so
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: they're gonna.
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: Be already out there. I think they're gonna cost Jimmy
• 49:33
  Speaker 9: the match. Then somebody will come out to help her.
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: It'll be Queen Amanada and whoever else and we you know,
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: that's what I see happening.
• 49:41
  Speaker 9: I think Techla's gonna win. I just see her winning it.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, don't forget that. We have sky Blue versus
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Jimmie Hater on this week's Dynamite Collision, So I mean
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: something can happen there to bring out somebody to have
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Jamie haters back during this match, or they can make
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: a stipulation nobody allowed at the ring. So I kind
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: of expect on I kind of expect sky Blue to
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: get the wind on on Dynamite, uh, because hey, let's
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: look at it this way. If sky Blue beats beats
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Jamie Hater, then Jami Hater is definitely gonna beat Tecla.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: If Jami Hater beats sky Blue, I kind of believe
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: the Techlo would beat Jamie Hater.
• 50:30
  Speaker 9: Did did did the Black mist get used on Jamie?
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: I thought sim okay because I was thinking if it
• 50:38
  Speaker 9: hadn't been that maybe they would do that again, but
• 50:40
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jamie, Jamie Hayter, Julia Hart won. Julia Hart won
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: after hitting Jamie Hater with the black myst.
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: Does that mean Jamie's gonna turn evil?
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: No?
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: No, I don't know who wins here? Man have they
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: used to mistakely? I haven't seen it used.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Well, Julia Hart's really the only one that's used it lately.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: And uh, I don't know Jamie Hayter. I didn't, wait,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: didn't Did Julia Heart use it on Queen Amanada as well?
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: Yes?
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: And I think that was after the Jamie Hater thing.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure, you know, somebody in the chat or
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: whatever let us know, but I do think that I do.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that Julia used it on Jamie Hayter
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: and Queen Amanada. So where do you go for sure?
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: Where do you go with these two after this match?
• 51:46
  Speaker 8: Like when I think about who's going to win, I
• 51:48
  Speaker 8: basically base it off of that, And I don't know
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: where they go with these two.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Well, Blood and Guts November twelve, Blood and Guts no.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Ember twelfth, that's the immediate.
• 51:57
  Speaker 8: Thing that it is set up, So they just keep
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: bumped the two of them just keep bumping ends or
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: you just keep running those two and three women tag
• 52:06
  Speaker 8: matches up until then to continue building the team.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe a blood and gods. The winner the winning team
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: gets to choose one of their members as the next
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: contender to face, probably Chris Statlander, as you know, the
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: uh the women's World.
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: They should have put a number one contender step on
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: this match or something to give it a little more juice.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: But I guess that's what they may do it. They
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: may do that tomorrow night. They may do that on
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: dyning my collisions, so you never know. Well, let's move
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: on to the last match representing the don Kallis family.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: None of them are representing the don Kallis family, but
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: they should. We've got the demand and hurt syndicate in
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: a trios match. I got to say something, Where the
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: hell did the demand come from? I mean, what is
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: there some kind of some dific it's about that name.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. Bald agony was right there.
• 53:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah I'm not I think.
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: Gates of agony, but yeah, yeah, there are gates apologize.
• 53:20
  Speaker 9: They're they're demanding there. They came from literally from them
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: demanding respect. That's what it came from.
• 53:27
  Speaker 12: I thought it there are Gates of Agony, and then
• 53:31
  Speaker 12: Ricochet is demanded to be great, so he joins the
• 53:38
  Speaker 12: Gates of Agony, and then they are all in demand.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, just I was gonna say, demand is a verb.
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: It's not an adjective. It's not a thing you can be.
• 53:56
  Speaker 12: Demanding demanded.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: They are the demand. It is basically saying this, we're
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: gonna be Look. One thing I want to point out
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: is that tomorrow night on the Dynamite Collision three hour show, Uh,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: the Gates of Agony will be facing Bobby Lashley and
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Shelton Benjamin. I kind of look into that match like,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: whoever wins that match kind of telegraphs who's gonna win
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: this match at the at a W Russell dream to me?
• 54:25
  Speaker 12: Does it though?
• 54:26
  Speaker 8: Because they just had the brawl and the hurt Sydy
• 54:31
  Speaker 8: Kit one and then if the Demand wins on Wednesday
• 54:36
  Speaker 8: or Gates of Agony wins on Wednesday, that's a one
• 54:39
  Speaker 8: one I don't think that's.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, but if the hurts, it hurts
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: tomorrow night, Yeah, they're already one in one yeah yeah,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: but but if if hurt signy get wins tomorrow night.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: That's two in a row. That means the demand Balda
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: he is gonna win. I think.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Green and they should.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've this match. I don't know. I'm not real
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: excited about this match. I do have to give credit
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: to MVP and Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin because it
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: sure seems like they're really trying to put over younger
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: talent as well.
• 55:27
  Speaker 8: I've enjoyed this feud a lot. I think they were
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: great together. Yeah, I'm loving go uh more and more
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: every week. Keep them on TV. Keep just beating people
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: up man.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So well, that's gonna be the show. We'll be
• 55:43
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