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Ghislaine Maxwell And The Deposition That Led To Her Downfall (Part 5) (5/15/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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  In this episode, we're going to pick up where we
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  left off with the Glenn Maxwell deposition. Cigarette McCauley, we
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  were talking a moment ago about miss Roberts and her
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  position as a massuse. Do you know what she was
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  paid for working as a massuse for Jeffrey Epstein? Maxwell?
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  I do not, McCauley, did you ever pay her? Maxwell?
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  I don't ever recall paying her. McCauley, do you know
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  what happened during the massage appointments with Jeffrey Epstein and
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  Virginia Roberts pat Luca objection to the form and the foundation?
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  Maxwell No, McCauley, were you ever present to view a
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  massage between Jeffrey Epstein and Virginia Roberts? Maxwell? I don't
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  recollect ever seeing Virginia and Jeffrey in a massage situation. McCauley,
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  do you ever recollect seeing them in a sexual situation? Maxwell?
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  I never saw them in a sexual situation. McCauley, did
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  you ever participate in sex with Virginia Roberts and Jeffrey Epstein? Maxwell?
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  I never, ever, at any single time, at any point
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  ever at all, participated in anything with Virginia and Jeffrey.
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  And for the record, she is an absolute and total liar.
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  And you all know she lied on multiple things, and
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  that is just one other disgusting thing. She added, McCauley,
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  did you help her obtain an apartment in Palm Beach
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  to live in? Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation? McCauley,
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  was that part of your responsibility for Jeffrey? Maxwell? First
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  of all, I didn't know she had an apartment in
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  Palm Beach. I only learned that from the many times
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  you guys have gone to the press to sell stories.
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  So no, Maxwell, did you help her get a cell phone?
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  Was that one of your responsibilities for Jeffrey to get
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  her a cell phone as part of her masseuse obligations?
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  Pagliuca objection to the form and the Foundation? Maxwell, I
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  don't know what that means Massous's obligation. I don't know
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  what you were referring to. Would you like to ask
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  the question properly? McCauley, I think it was proper I'll
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  ask it again, though. Did you ever assist in getting
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  Virginia Roberts a cell phone to use during the time
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  that she worked for Jeffrey Epstein. Maxwell, I have no
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  recollection of doing anything of that nature. McCauley, did you
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  ever tell Virginia that you wanted her to have a
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  cell phone so that she could be on call regularly? Maxwell?
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  I have no recollection of that conversation. McCauley, how often
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  would Virginia come over to the house in Palm Beach
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  to give massages? Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and foundation?
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  Maxwell asked the question again, Please, McCauley, how often did
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  Virginia Roberts come over to the house in Palm Beach
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  to give massages? Maxwell? It's important to understand that I
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  it wasn't with Jeffrey all the time. In fact, I
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  was only in the house less than half the time,
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  so I cannot testify to when I wasn't in the
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  house how often she came when I wasn't there. What
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  I can say is that I barely would remember her
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  if it wasn't for all this rubbish, I probably wouldn't
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  remember her at all, except she did come from time
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  to time. But I don't recollect her coming as often
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  as she portrayed herself. And just to interject, real quick,
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  What a bunch of bullshit. What about all the pictures
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  of Virginia at Zoro Ranch, on the plane in Europe
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  with them? But she has no recollection. Who Virginia is?
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  Huh okay? Sure, and I'm the quarterback for the San
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  Francisco forty nine ers. McCauley. How many times a day
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  on average would Jeffrey get a massage? Pagliuca? Objection to
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  the form and the foundation? Maxwell. When I was at
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  the house and when I was there with him, he
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  received a massage on average about once a day McCauley,
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  just once Maxwell, Yes, McCauley, were there days when he
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  received four or five? Mister Pagliuca, objection to the form
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  and the foundation Maxwell. When I was present at the house,
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  I never saw something like that, McCauley. Do you know
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  if Virginia was required to be on call at all
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  times to come to the house if Jeffrey wanted her there,
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  mister Pagliuca objection to the form and the Foundation? Maxwell,
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  I have no idea of the arrangements that Virginia made
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  with Jeffrey. McCauley when Virginia was in New York. Would
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  Virginia sleep at Jeffrey's mansion in New York. Mister Pagliuca,
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  objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I don't
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  recollect her being in New York, and I have no
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  idea where she slept. McCauley, you don't ever remember seeing
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  Virginia Roberts in New York. Mister Pagliuca, objection to the
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  form and the foundation. Maxwell, I would barely recollect her
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  at all except for this story. McCauley, do you recall
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  Virginia Roberts calling you because she was having a medical
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  crisis and you and Jeffrey taking her to the hospital. Maxwell,
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  I have heard this absurd story, and if any part
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  of it were true, I would remember that. I do
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  not McCauley, you don't remember taking her to the hospital. Maxwell.
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  It's not that I don't remember it, it's that it
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  didn't happen. McCauley. How do you know it didn't happen? Maxwell,
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  that's the sort of memory you would recall. McCauley. Do
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  you recall you said you don't remember her being at
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  the New York Mansion when you were in New York?
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  Would you stay at the New York Mansion with Jeffrey Maxwell?
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  I stayed from time to time. McCauley. Do you recall
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  Virginia being at the New York mansion when redacted came
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  to visit? Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and Foundation? Maxwell,
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  Like I told you, I don't recall her being at
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  all at the house. McCauley. How many homes does Jeffrey
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  mister Pagliuka objection to the form and the Foundation? Maxwell?
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  When I was working for him, I think he had
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  maybe six. McCauley. Would Virginia stay with them in those homes,
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  mister Pagliuca, objection to the form and the Foundation? Maxwell.
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  I can only testify for when I was present with him,
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  and I cannot say what she did when I wasn't
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  present with him. McCauley, when you were present, would Virginia
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  stay in the homes with him? Maxwell, I don't recall
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  her staying at the houses. McCauley. Did you train Virginia
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  on how to recruit other girls for massages? Mister Pagliuca
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  objection to the form and Foundation Maxwell, No, McCauley, did
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  you train Virginia on how to recruit other girls to
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  perform sexual massages? Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and foundation. Maxwell. No,
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  and it's absurd and her entire story is one giant
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  tissue of lies. And furthermore, she herself has if she
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  says that, you have to ask her about what she did. McCauley.
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  Does Jeffrey like to have his nipples pinch during sexual encounters?
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  Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  I'm not referring to any advice on my counsel. I'm
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  not talking about any adult sexual things when I was
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  with him, McCauley, when Jeffrey would have a massage, would
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  he request that the massuse pinches nipples while he was
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  having the massage? Maxwell, I'm not talking about anything with
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  consensual adult situations. McCauley, what about with underage Maxwell? I
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  am not aware of anything. McCauley. You're not aware of
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  Jeffrey Epstein ever having sex with an underage miner and
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  asking them to pinch his nipples. Maxwell, I'm not, McCauley,
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  So I'm going to direct you to I believe it's
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  Maxwell Exhibit one, the police report. McCauley continues, Are you
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  aware that over thirty underage miners gave testimony to police
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  that they were engaged in sexual acts during quote unquote massages.
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  Mister Pagliuca, the witness needs to find exhibit one, Exhibit one,
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  if you can hand that to me, please, McCauley. So, now,
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  with respect to the police report, are you aware that
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  over thirty underage girls, meaning under the age of eighteen,
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  gave reports to police that they were assaulted sexually by
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  Jeffrey Epstein during massages. Mister Pagliuka objection to the form
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  and the foundation. Maxwell. I read the police report. That's
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  all I can testify to. McCauley. Are you aware of
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  what is in the police report? Are you aware that
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  there were thirty girls? Maxwell? I did not count the
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  number of girls, and I did read the police report.
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  I can only testify to what I read, McCauley, So
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  you were aware that the police report contains reports from
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  thirty underage girls. Maxwell, I can't testify to what the
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  girl said. I can only testify to the fact that
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  I read a police report that stated that, McCauley, were
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  you working for Jeffrey? You said you worked for him
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  off and on until two thousand and nine. Is that correct? Maxwell?
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  I helped out from time to time. McCauley. So you
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  were working with him during the time period when these
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  underage girls were visiting Jeffrey's home. Mister Pagliuca objection to
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  the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I was not what year.
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  I need years, McCauley. How about let's say two thousand
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  and five. Maxwell, I'm not sure I was at the
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  house at all in two thousand and five. Maybe one
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  day maybe, McCauley. How about two thousand and four. Maxwell,
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  I was present for his mother. His mother died in
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  two thousand and four, so I was there for his
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  mother's death and the funeral, and I was at the
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  house maybe a handful of days. Again, McCauley, I would
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  like to direct you to you have it pulled together now.
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  It's page thirty nine, bait stamped Robert zero zero zero
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  for zero Maxwell. Can you repeat that please, McCauley. Sure,
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  zero zero zero four zero Maxwell. Yes, McCauley. At the
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  top of that document, about three lines down, you see
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  that redacted portion where there is a black so it
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  blacks out the name Maxwell. I see black redacted portions. McCauley.
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  That's a black redaction of the name of the minor,
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  and there is. I will represent for the record that's
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  what it is. You can contest that, but I'm not
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  asking the name of the minor. Five lines down it
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  says she was just sixteen years of age. Do you
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  see that? Maxwell, I have read that. If you want
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  me to testify to some things, McCauley, I'm asking you
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  if you see where it says she was just sixteen
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  years old. Maxwell, No, I have to read it, McCauley.
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  It's five lines down on the first paragraph. Maxwell, I
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  do see that, McCauley. Then the next paragraph down it says.
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  This is the next full paragraph, it says Epstein entered
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  the room, introduced to himself. Epstein lay on the table
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  and told her to get comfortable. Blank could not remember
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  if he was naked or if he entered the room
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  with a towel. Blank stated she provided the massage wearing
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  her panties. She continued rubbing his thighs and his feet.
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  Blank advised he turned over on his back and continued
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  to rub his legs with oil. Epstein touched her breasts
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  and began to masturbate. I asked if she knew what
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  circumcised and uncircumcised meant. She stated circumcised as when the
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  penis has no foreskin. Then, jumping down to the next paragraph,
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  it says Blank became upset, crying hysterically and stated that
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  she was paid and also instructed to have sex with
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  Epstein and redacted by Epstein. Do you see that there, Maxwell?
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  I do. McAuley. Are you aware that there were underage
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  miners in the Palm Beach House that were required to
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  give sexual massages to Jeffrey Epstein. Pagliuca objection to the
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  form and the foundation. This has been asked and answered already.
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  Now you are just reading a document. McCauley, I am
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  allowed to take this deposition. Maxwell I already testified. McCauley.
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  Are you aware that there were underage girls, thirty of
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  them in this police report, that were assaulted by Jeffrey
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  Epstein in the Palm Beach House during the time you
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  were working there. Maxwell, I am aware that Virginia has
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  lied repeatedly. McCauley, I'm not asking about Virginia. I'm asking
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  if you were aware that there were over thirty underage
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  girls who gave reports to police during the time you
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  worked for Jeffrey Epstein. Are you aware of that mister Pagliuca, Council,
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  what is your factual basis for asserting there are thirty
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  underage people who gave reports? McCauley, I don't have to
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  answer that, mister Pagliuca. Are you representing as an officer
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  of the court that you have personal knowledge that there
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  are thirty people referenced in these police reports? Ms McCauley.
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  That's my understanding that there's thirty girls. Mister Pagliuca. How
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  is it that you're understanding if these are redacted to reports,
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  Miss McCauley by reading through the reports, Mister Pagliuca, so
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  you have personal knowledge there are thirty people. Ms McCauley,
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  just like can you if you read through I will
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  not argue with you. Counsel she can answer yes or no. McCauley,
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  are you aware that there were over thirty individuals who
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  were miners who gave reports to police, just like the
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  one we just read that they were sexually assaulted by
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  Jeffrey Epstein in the pomp Beach home during the years
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  that you were working with them. Mister Pagliuca, objection to
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  the form and foundation. You can answer if you have knowledge, Maxwell,
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  I already testified I was limited in the house couple
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  of days. There is no way I knew. I have
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  read these reports. I cannot testify to thirty. Given the
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  experience I've had with Virginia's lives, it's very hard for
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  me to testify about what I see. I can tell
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  you from my personal knowledge, I did not know what
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  you were referring to. McCauley. You did not know that
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  there were underage girls in the home that were being
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  assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein during the time you were working there. Maxwell,
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  based on the lives that I have already been told,
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  I cannot comment on my She's interrupted here by McCauley.
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  Are you saying that these thirty girls are lying when
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  they gave these reports to police officers. Maxwell, I'm not
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  testifying to their lives. I'm testifying to Virginia's lives. McCauley,
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  I'm not asking about Virginia's lies. Maxwell. I can only
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  testify to Virginia's lives. I can testify to having read
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  these reports. I cannot testify to anything else about them. McCauley.
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  So your testimony is that during the time you were
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  working there, you did not know that these minor children
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  were being abused in the home while you were there. Maxwell,
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  what I have already told you and I will repeat,
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  I was in the house very limited times, very few times.
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  I do not know what you were referring to. I've
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  read these reports, but but based on the lies that
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  Virginia has perpetrated, I cannot tell you what is true
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  or a factual or not. McCauley, you said you were
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  in the home a very limited time, so average in
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  the year, for example, two thousand and four, how many
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  times would you have been in his Palm Beach home, Maxwell,
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  Very hard for me to stay, but very little McCauley.
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  How about his New York home? Maxwell? Same, McCauley. Were
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  you his girlfriend in that year? In two thousand and four, Maxwell,
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  define what you mean by girlfriend. McCauley. Were you in
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  a relationship with him where you would consider yourself his girlfriend? Maxwell? No, McCauley,
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  did you ever consider yourself his girlfriend? Maxwell? That's a
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  tricky question. There were times when I would have liked
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  to think of myself as his girlfriend. McCauley. When would
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  that have been Maxwell? Probably the early nineties. All Right,
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  we're gonna wrap up right there, and in the next episode,
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  we'll pick up where we left off. All of the
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  information that goes with this episode can be found in
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