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Bonus Episode - Chilling Words Diddy Allegedly Said Before Jay Z and He Did What? Plus Shane MacGowan and More · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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  Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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  Speaker 1: episode or Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig
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  Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking
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  Speaker 1: about the recent allegations against jay Z. Bit of conversation
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  Speaker 1: on this week's full episode about Sean McGowan of the Pogues,
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  Speaker 1: and we hear from you on your favorite Christmas songs,
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  Speaker 1: and of course we are diving into your voicemails, text
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  Speaker 1: and more, and as always, a whole lot of rosie.
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  Speaker 1: All right, discoes, let's get into it all right. This
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  Speaker 1: past Sunday, jay Z was accused of raping a thirteen
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  Speaker 1: year old girl alongside his buddy fellow billionaire hip hop
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  Speaker 1: mogul Sean Diddy Combs. I detailed this Comb's allegation a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago here in the after Party. Quick refresh.
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  Speaker 1: Though it's the year two thousand. MTV Video Music Awards
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  Speaker 1: are happening in Manhattan. Did He throws an after party.
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  Speaker 1: A young girl is invited off the street via one
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  Speaker 1: of Diddy's chauffeurs. The girl attends the party, she's drugged.
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  Speaker 1: She passes out in one of the bedrooms. Sean Combs
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  Speaker 1: enters sees that the drug has taken effect on the
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  Speaker 1: young girl. The plaintiff, who was groggy at the time
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  Speaker 1: from the drug, was not completely passed out, and according
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  Speaker 1: to her, remember jay Z entering the room with Shawn Combs,
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  Speaker 1: a maniacal looking Shawn Combs by the way, who looks
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  Speaker 1: through to the eye and says, you are ready to party?
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  Speaker 1: Who now? The accuser then claims that Combs violently threw
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  Speaker 1: her against the wall and alleges that that's when jay
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  Speaker 1: Z ripped off her clothes, held her down, and raped
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  Speaker 1: her while yet another celebrity, a female, a female celebrity,
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  Speaker 1: watched this all happen and when the quote unquote God
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  Speaker 1: Empsey gross, I hate that, I hate that nickname finished
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  Speaker 1: at that point, when jay Z was done, Sean Combs
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  Speaker 1: then raped this thirteen year old as well, and Jay
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  Speaker 1: Z allegedly watched with the female celebrity watching as well. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it has to be said that these are just allegations.
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  Speaker 1: It has to be said that Sean Diddy Combs has
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  Speaker 1: adamantly this specific allegation and all allegations of abuse against him.
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  Speaker 1: Now it also needs to be said that Jay Z
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  Speaker 1: has also denied this accusation, saying this past Sunday, when
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  Speaker 1: news of the lawsuit broke the following and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to read you jay Z's entire response to these charges
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  Speaker 1: because it's important. The guy's not guilty yet. Okay, No
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  Speaker 1: matter what you think guilt by association, you like the guy,
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  Speaker 1: you don't like the guy, He's still innocent until proven guilty.
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  Speaker 1: And this is what he is saying in response to
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  Speaker 1: the allegations against him. Quote. My lawyer received a blackmail
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  Speaker 1: attempt called a demand letter from a quote unquote lawyer
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  Speaker 1: named Tony Busby. What he had calculated was the nature
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  Speaker 1: of these allegations in public scrutiny would make me want
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  Speaker 1: to settle. You have to excuse the poor writing here
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  Speaker 1: and bad grammar and usage. This I'm reading of verbatim.
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  Speaker 1: The quotes go on to say, no, sir, it had
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  Speaker 1: the opposite effect. You want to expose you for the
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  Speaker 1: fraud you are in a all caps, very public fashion,
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  Speaker 1: So no, I will not give you all caps one
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  Speaker 1: red penny. These allegations are so heinous in nature that
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  Speaker 1: I employ you to file a criminal complaint, not a
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  Speaker 1: civil one two exclamation points. Whomever would commit such a
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  Speaker 1: crime against a minor should be locked away? Would you
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  Speaker 1: not agree these alleged victims would deserve real justice if
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  Speaker 1: that were the case. This lawyer, who I have done
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  Speaker 1: a bit of research on, seems to have a pattern
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  Speaker 1: of these type of theatrics. I have no idea how
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  Speaker 1: you have come to be such a deplorable human, mister Busby,
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  Speaker 1: but I promise you I have seen your kind many
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  Speaker 1: times over. I'm more than prepared to deal with your type.
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  Speaker 1: You claim to be a marine. Marines are known for
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  Speaker 1: their valor. You have neither honor nor dignity. My only
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  Speaker 1: heartbreak is for my family. My wife and I will
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  Speaker 1: have to sit our children down, one of whom is
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  Speaker 1: at the age when her friends will surely see the
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  Speaker 1: press and ask questions about the nature of these claims
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  Speaker 1: and explain the cruelty and greed people I mourn yet
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  Speaker 1: another loss of innocence. Children should not have to endure
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  Speaker 1: such at their young age. It is unfair to have
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  Speaker 1: to try to understand inexplicable degrees of malice meant to
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  Speaker 1: destroy families and human spirit. My heart and support goes
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  Speaker 1: out to true victims in the world who have to
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  Speaker 1: watch how their life story is dressed in costume for
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  Speaker 1: profitability by this ambulance chaser in a cheap suit. You
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  Speaker 1: have made a terrible error in judgment thinking that all
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  Speaker 1: celebrities are the same. I'm not from your world. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a young man who made it out of the projects
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  Speaker 1: of Brooklyn. We don't play these types of games. We
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  Speaker 1: have very strict codes and honor. We protect children. You
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  Speaker 1: seem to exploit people for personal gain. Only your network
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  Speaker 1: of conspiracy theorists fake physics. That's right, fake physics will
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  Speaker 1: believe the idiotic claims you have levied against me. If
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  Speaker 1: not for this seriousness, surrounding harm to kids would be laughable.
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  Speaker 1: I look forward to showing you just how different I
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  Speaker 1: am unquote. I have so many thoughts, guys. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck was that? Okay? I get that he's
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  Speaker 1: he's saying he didn't do it. I get that he's
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  Speaker 1: going after Tony Busby personally, and he should. This is
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  Speaker 1: a very personal issue. But he knew this was coming,
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  Speaker 1: and he seems to have had this statement prepared based
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  Speaker 1: on how quickly it came out on Sunday. But dude,
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  Speaker 1: let me tell you about this thing called grammarly dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Run this thing through a copy of it. Matt Boden
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  Speaker 1: right now is fucking dying inside having to let this
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  Speaker 1: grammar and usage go forth in a disgrace land episode.
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  Speaker 1: But a couple of serious things here. He does say
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  Speaker 1: fake physics, by the way, I think he meant to
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  Speaker 1: say fake psychics. And I just I got a comment
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  Speaker 1: Jaz calls a young man. He's fifty four, God love him.
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  Speaker 1: Jay Z is a master of the media. He is
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  Speaker 1: a ruthless businessman. So when you hear this, take all
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  Speaker 1: of that into account and I'm not going to pass judgment,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm just giving you the information, all right, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So that's where we're at with this story. Sort of.
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  Speaker 1: More news has broken since the allegations in since jay
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  Speaker 1: Z's response, But I want to hit on a couple
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  Speaker 1: things relevant to what we just spoke of. Here, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: jay Z is accusing the attorney Tony Busby who filed
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  Speaker 1: this lawsuit of extortion. Buzzby has issued a statement denying
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  Speaker 1: that he is extorting jay Z and claiming that he
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  Speaker 1: simply said a demand what's called demand to jay Z
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  Speaker 1: on behalf of his client seeking mediation. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: Buzzby is saying, no, jay Z, I didn't extort you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to blackmail you. I simply I'm not
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  Speaker 1: even looking for money. My client wasn't even looking for money.
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  Speaker 1: We just wanted to get you to come to the
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  Speaker 1: table with a mediator to discuss these allegations and to
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  Speaker 1: come to some sort of settlement, right Buzzby, He's the
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  Speaker 1: issue a formal statement. Like I said, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to read it to you. Buzzby's statement here that I
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  Speaker 1: just depicted it's true, but it's also disingenuous. I've read
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  Speaker 1: the demand, and at the risk of turning this into
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  Speaker 1: a legal podcast, which I don't want to do, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to read it to you in full like
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  Speaker 1: I just did jay Z's response, but I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you that the demand from Busby is kind of extortiony.
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  Speaker 1: It basically gives jay Z, like I said, the right
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  Speaker 1: to come to the table to negotiate this matter out
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  Speaker 1: of court. It's not black and white. It's very carefully
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  Speaker 1: worded and it's also kind of clever. Now, does that
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  Speaker 1: mean jay Z is innocent? No, doesn't mean he's guilty either.
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  Speaker 1: Does that mean that Tony Busby is crooked? No, And
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that he's on the level either. It
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  Speaker 1: means he's a lawyer, he has a client, he's trying
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  Speaker 1: to do right buyer, and I'm sure that's settling this
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  Speaker 1: out of court for millions of dollars rather than going
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  Speaker 1: through a million dollar trial that will undoubtedly result in
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  Speaker 1: this claimant's identity coming out in her life getting turned
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  Speaker 1: upside down. That's more preferable to Tony Busby professionally. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it should be noted that jay Z has countersued Tony Busby. However,
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  Speaker 1: it should also be noted that Tony Busby is welcoming
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  Speaker 1: the fight, and it seems he's also got the goods
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  Speaker 1: on jay Z's attorneys, who he claims have been harassing
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  Speaker 1: local Texans who are familiar with Buzzby and his firm.
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  Speaker 1: It's attempting to pay them one thousand dollars a pop
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  Speaker 1: minimum to go on record to talk shit about Tony Busby,
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  Speaker 1: to create a narrative here about Tony Busby being a
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  Speaker 1: bad guy, being a liar, being full of it, being
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  Speaker 1: an unscrupulous, dishonest attorney. I want to point out though,
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  Speaker 1: that the sourcing on this piece of the story, the
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  Speaker 1: sourcing that I've seen on this particular claim about Tony
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  Speaker 1: Busby where he's saying that he's got j Attorneys representatives
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  Speaker 1: on tape trying to essentially bribe people who know him
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  Speaker 1: to come out and speak against him. I gotta say,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it right here. In the numerous instances
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  Speaker 1: on the Internet where I've seen this story pop up,
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  Speaker 1: the sourcing is light. It is thin. But but just
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  Speaker 1: because it's weak, it doesn't mean it's not true. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we as we've already seen here, there's been numerous moments
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  Speaker 1: when elements of this ditty story have popped up where
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  Speaker 1: we're weak weekly uh should I say thin? Thinly sourced
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  Speaker 1: information ended up proving to be true. But we've seen
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  Speaker 1: the opposite as well. Case in point that that Jamie
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  Speaker 1: Foxx Netflix thing hit last night and what people on
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  Speaker 1: the Internet thought was coming about Diddy did not come okay,
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  Speaker 1: So big fat disclaimer on this piece of the story
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  Speaker 1: that allegedly has Jay's lawyers attempting bribery against Tony Busby,
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  Speaker 1: that said, Buzzby has not given an inch in jay Z. He,
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  Speaker 1: unlike Sean Combs, is opting for a scorched earth response
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  Speaker 1: to Busby's client's allegations. Now, Busby isn't an idiot. He
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  Speaker 1: had to have known that jay Z's response was a
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  Speaker 1: pall possibility. And if he was gonna go down this
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  Speaker 1: road against a multi billionaire, one of those powerful men
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  Speaker 1: in entertainment, he's got to have evidence to prove out
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  Speaker 1: his client's case. Otherwise, well, I don't know. Otherwise it's
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  Speaker 1: a shocking act of hubris and just stupidity. So what
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  Speaker 1: could the proof be? DNA? Perhaps maybe seems like a stretch.
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  Speaker 1: This happened twenty four years ago. Video footage always a possibility,
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  Speaker 1: but the year two thousand was a much different time
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  Speaker 1: than twenty twenty four, and it just seems too easy
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  Speaker 1: that there would be video footage of this incident. A
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  Speaker 1: corroborating eye witness, someone at the party testifies that they
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  Speaker 1: saw these individuals all go into the room together. I
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  Speaker 1: guess that's possible. What about testimony from the third person
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  Speaker 1: in the room, the unnamed quote unquote female celebrity. What
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  Speaker 1: if that female celebrity is not just a no name,
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  Speaker 1: but a person who has credibility with us, credibility with
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  Speaker 1: the public, A person who she came out, sat down
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  Speaker 1: in front of a camera on a big budget, trusted,
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  Speaker 1: legacy media news program and laid all the cards on
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  Speaker 1: the table, and you know, had a story that went
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  Speaker 1: something like, you know, I was young, I was, I
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  Speaker 1: was drugged myself. Perhaps I was drunk, I was, I
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  Speaker 1: was easily impressed upon. I didn't know what was happening
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  Speaker 1: at that time. I was an attic. I'm now clean,
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  Speaker 1: I've found God all this stuff and yes, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: okay now. But jay Z Sean Combs, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe, I mean, that could be very compelling
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  Speaker 1: for the American public, could be very compelling for a judge,
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  Speaker 1: for a jury. Okay, that could be interesting. But I doubt, however,
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  Speaker 1: that that person, that celebrity, that female, that a list celebrity,
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  Speaker 1: would be collaborating with Tony Busby in a civil case
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to collaborating with authorities in a criminal case,
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  Speaker 1: because what's the leverage. I suppose the leverages Tony buzz
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  Speaker 1: people will make her name public, But I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean maybe that's powerful enough. You know, in a
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  Speaker 1: civil case, which this is, this case has nothing to
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  Speaker 1: do with law enforcement. In a civil case, the burden
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  Speaker 1: of proof is much lower because the judgment is just
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  Speaker 1: financial damages. It's not jail time. But what can happen
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  Speaker 1: in a civil case, and I believe what has already
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  Speaker 1: happened as it pertains to the Shawn Combs legal drama,
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  Speaker 1: is a civil case can become so damning and can
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  Speaker 1: have so much evidence attached to it that that civil
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  Speaker 1: case can compel a criminal prosecutor to bring charges. Remember
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  Speaker 1: Cassi Ventura's lawsuit that Shawn Combs settled out of court
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  Speaker 1: for thirty million dollars. That was a civil case, and
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  Speaker 1: that civil case and that settlement inspired numerous other civil
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  Speaker 1: cases to quickly be filed against Shawan Combs, including the
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  Speaker 1: one from Rodney Little, Rodge Jones. Those civil cases, more specifically,
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  Speaker 1: the evidence within those civil lawsuits I believe inspired federal
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  Speaker 1: prosecutors to raid Sean Combs's house and ultimately to indict
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  Speaker 1: him under federal law. If you read the Cassi Ventura indictment,
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  Speaker 1: and you read the little Rod Jones indictment which I have,
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  Speaker 1: and then read the federal indictment which I also have,
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  Speaker 1: you quickly see that they're all part of the same piece.
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  Speaker 1: The charges and the details and the federal criminal complaint
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  Speaker 1: are so similar to the Ventura in Jones's civil lawsuits
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  Speaker 1: that it would not surprise me at all to learn
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  Speaker 1: the Cassie Ventura and Lulerod Jones are cooperating with Fed's
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  Speaker 1: against Diddy. So what does this mean? If I know this,
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  Speaker 1: then jay Z's lawyers definitely know this, and that means
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  Speaker 1: that the smart play for jay Z is to go
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  Speaker 1: full gladiator retaliation to Tony Busby. Regardless of whether he's
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  Speaker 1: guilty or not, he has two and a half billion dollars.
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  Speaker 1: He can take his chance as fighting this thing. In
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  Speaker 1: the process, the benefit that risk is he's sending a
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  Speaker 1: message to future claimants that don't fuck with me. I'm
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  Speaker 1: jay Z, the God MC. I will rain down upon
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  Speaker 1: thee with furious vengeance in the form of an army
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  Speaker 1: of lawyers. And this contains the issue for jay Z,
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  Speaker 1: and it keeps it from sprawling into the mess the
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  Speaker 1: Diddy has created for himself by by settling with Cassie Ventura.
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  Speaker 1: That's what kicked it all off for Sean Combs. What
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  Speaker 1: blows all of this up. Like I said, if Buzzby
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  Speaker 1: has proof that comes out in court, if Buzzby has
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  Speaker 1: other victims of jay Z's or just other victims in
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  Speaker 1: general of jay Z's or witnesses come out they go public,
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  Speaker 1: or if they go directly to the Feds. If more
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  Speaker 1: information gets out there, despite jay Z's scorched Earth gladiator
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  Speaker 1: legal response, and once again the Feds are put into
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  Speaker 1: a box. And if that info gets out there, the
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  Speaker 1: FEDS are going to be compelled to bring a case
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  Speaker 1: against jay Z, just as they have against Sean Combs.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying that's going to happen, but what
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  Speaker 1: I am saying is that jay Z's legal team they
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  Speaker 1: know every which road this thing can spiral down, and
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  Speaker 1: they are playing against those possibilities. And that is very
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  Speaker 1: much part of jay Z's response, whether or not he
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  Speaker 1: is actually innocent or actually guilty, regardless of what happens
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  Speaker 1: this story, the jay Z part of the story is
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  Speaker 1: far from over. He's not backing down, and neither is
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  Speaker 1: Tony Busby. That is a lot. It's a lot of information, guys.
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  Speaker 1: It's only been what four or five days since this
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  Speaker 1: news broke. We're gonna get a lot more of it,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll I'll have a little bit more of this
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  Speaker 1: in the all access portion of this episode on jay Z,
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  Speaker 1: we can get to I gotta say this. I released
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  Speaker 1: the jay Z episode back in twenty twenty, and man,
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  Speaker 1: oh man, has mine opinion of this guy changed. Since
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that jay Z is guilty, I legitimately
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  Speaker 1: do not know. If I'm betting, I'd say the odds
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  Speaker 1: are even. That's not good. My gut, in other words,
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  Speaker 1: tells me that there's a fifty percent chance that jay
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  Speaker 1: Z is a bad dude. And I can in the
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  Speaker 1: all access portion of so I'm gonna talk a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more about what I mean by that. It's my gut,
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  Speaker 1: all right, it's you know, you know, all qualifiers go
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  Speaker 1: with that. If I thought this back in twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: then that jay Z episode would have come out much differently.
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  Speaker 1: Back then, I was kind of an awe of jay
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  Speaker 1: Z is not only an artist, but as an entrepreneur.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say this too. I fucking love jay Z's music.
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  Speaker 1: I love it all right. I think he's a genius.
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  Speaker 1: I really truly do. And in that episode I make
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the case that he's kind of a modern day Sinatra,
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  Speaker 1: But man, I don't know it's different now. Anyways, that episode,
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  Speaker 1: it's available for you in the archive. You can check
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  Speaker 1: it out if you want to get a bit more
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: backstory on jay Z, even if you've alread heard, if
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: you want to revisit it. The nightclub stabbing, how he
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: handled that. It's similar, big, big, super high profile criminality.
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  Speaker 1: Not a criminal case, I almost say criminal case, but
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  Speaker 1: still high profile, front page of all the tabloids. Coincidentally,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: at the exact same time, at the exact same time
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  Speaker 1: the news of the nightclub stabbing with jay Z broke
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: back in the late nineties, Sean Combs was on trial
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  Speaker 1: for a nightclub shooting. Interesting, huh, these guys are close.
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  Speaker 1: More on that. Like I said in the all access
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  Speaker 1: portion of this But anyways, if you want a little
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: more on jay Z's backstory, you want to have it
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: in mind while all this current news is filling your feeds,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: check out the jay Z episode Disgraceful. All right, Speaking
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: of rewind episodes, it's Christmas time and that means we
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: have our Mariah carry episode coming your way right after
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: this one. Mariah and her bags of money that she
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: makes every year from her annual chart top one thing
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: All I Want for Christmas Is You song that is
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: currently number one of the Billboard Hot one hundred, as
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: it usually is at least for a couple of weeks
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: every year. Come this time anyway, check out the dark
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: story of the Christmas Miracle that keeps on giving, Mariah
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Carey and her Banana's relationship with her wackado husband music
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: mogul Tommy Mottola. That's coming up in this week's rewind episode,
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• 19:27
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  Speaker 1: All right next week on Tuesday, one of my favorite
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: episodes that we have created to date. I feel like
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I say that every week. You know that means means
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I love my job, means I'm psyched, I'm creatively plugged in.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I love this. I haven't heard the mix yet, Matt
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Matt's mix in it, I think as we speak, but
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I've written it and I'm pretty pumped on it. And
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: if you like rock and roll, miss this is for you.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: It's on Elvis pres and Johnny Ace. Okay, if you
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: like rock and roll myths, if you like conspiracy, if
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: you like gangster stories, this story is for you. And
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: it also bonus takes place at Christmas, so I cannot
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: wait for you to hear it. And when you're listening,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: be thinking about the rock and roll myths. Okay, which
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: ones are your favorites, Which ones are the most unbelievable?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Which ones are you aware of are not true and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: have been busted? Let me know, Rod Stewart in the Stomach,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Pump Mama Cass and the ham Sandwich, Michael Hutchinson, the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you know, hit me up, Hit me up, whatever myth
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you think of related to music, because I want to
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: dive into them in next week's after party with you
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: right here in this space. All right, I'm gonna take
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: a quick break. I'll be back on the other side
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: with your voicemails, texts and dms. All right, guys, we're back.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Can you hear that. I don't think you can hear that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can hear that. I record these
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: after party episodes differently than I record the full episodes,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: because it's a different type of thing. I do them
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: from my desk. I do them in the studio that
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I'm currently building, though construction has ceased, it's about to
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: pick up again in January. But outside right now, they
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: are building my neighborhood as we speak, and there's some trucks,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and I apologize if you're getting any of that noise.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Matt has found some handy AI device that can clean
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: up the sounds around my microphone. I'm doing a very
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: poor job of explaining that, but we should be good
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: to go. But these trucks are frickin' loud. I'm trying to,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you know, stop and start record to make sure that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you're not hearing the noise. If you do get some
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: of that there. It is hear that, he hear that,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: that little sneaky fucker perfect timing. If you hear any
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: of that, I apologize, but we're doing our best to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: clean it up and keep it out. Yeah, we're back.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Like I said, before we get to your calls, before
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: we get to your texts, before we get to your dms,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Did you know Shada
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: isn't sha DA's name. I mean it is, but it isn't.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: It's actually the name of her band, Shade, the singer
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: we've been calling Shade. Her name is Helen, Yes, Helen,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Helen has been singing smooth operator to you all these years,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and not the super sexy Shadah. Shada again is the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: name of the band, but it's also part of Shade's name, Helen,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: full of Shaday.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that, Now I do, and now you
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: do too, or maybe you already knew it. I just
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: thought it was interesting, thought it was worth sharing. Speaking
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: of sharing, Ben from the eight to oh three called
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: in to share the following.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Jake, this is Ben from the eight oh three man.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I discovered a disgrace last few months. Back went back,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: started episode one and dug my way through the entire
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: catalog till I am current. Just wanted to way in
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  Speaker 3: on this week's question, Sir, The greatest Christmas song ever written,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: hands down Barnan's Merry Christmas from the Family from one
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: mister Robert Earl Keane. It's everything that's cool about our
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: law country, red dirt country, whatever you want to call it, Americana.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I said it's it's bold, and it's offensive in parts,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: but it's only offensive because it hits so close to
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: home for so many others. I guaranteed check it out.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: It will be on your playlist. Keep doing what you're doing, brother,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: You're amazing. Love your work, Ben.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. Robert Earl Keene, I have
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: never heard this song, but I am intrigued now. I
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: want to thank you for the message. Appreciate appreciate the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: new listening as well, and the call six one seven
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: nine or six sixty six three eight if you guys
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: want to connect with us like Ben. Ben's call on
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: fear Christmas song is a response to the question we
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: asked in last week. The end of last week Shane
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: McGowan episode Seane McGown of course, wrote one of, if
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: not my absolute favorite Christmas song, fairy Tale of New York,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and the episode is largely about that. It's also a
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: little bit about Chain's background. I hope you guys get
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: a chance to check it out if you have not already.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: And on the sort of this question, we're going to
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: talk about a bunch of your favorite Christmas songs here
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: in a bit, a bunch of your recommendations. And in
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the Patreon we've got a good little back and forth
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: going in the chat on favorite Christmas songs and one
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: of the disco's Chris on it. That's not his real name,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: that's his stage name or DJ name. Chris has put
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: together a massive Spotify playlist called Disgraceline Christmas Songs. It's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: got all of your songs that you've recommended here and elsewhere.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Chris has been curating this. Go to Spotify and just
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: search Disgraceline Christmas Songs. Chris. If you're listening, I hope
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you add these new songs in there. And Chris, just
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: shout out, man, thanks for doing this. Appreciate you. I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: appreciate the crowded House vinyl that you sent me that
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I have not been able to listen to yet, because
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: my record player is currently on the fritz. I might
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: listen to it. Mike, my son's got this little uh
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: third Man Records record player. It's like one of those
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: old school toy record players with the speaker read in
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the same same kind of suitcase with the with the turntable.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: It sounds like shit, but it sounds like shit in
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: a cool way. I don't know. Maybe I'll check out
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the crowded House final on that anyways. Chris appreciate you.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight
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  Speaker 1: Scott from the five to six to two.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Jake got from the five to six to two. My
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: favorite Christmas song is two thousand Miles by the Pretenders.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: It's not really a Christmas song. It's more of a
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: tribute to James Honeyman. Scott a guitar player, and I
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: think it's just a beautiful song. And I'm from Ohio
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and when I go back sometimes at Christmas time, it's
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: just it's very melancholy. Okay, Jake, love the show. Thanks bye.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Miles from Pretender's amazing song. Incredible song. And we're gonna
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: do a Chrissy Hinde episode. We got real close to
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: doing it. This year, we didn't. We're gonna do one soon,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I believe in the new year at some point, Scott,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Six one seven rights in, Jake,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: You're gonna cover why. Fairytale of New York is probably
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the best all caps Christmas song of all time, but
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: a close second is The Waitresses. The Waitresses Christmas rapping.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Excuse me four minutes and thirty seconds to tell an
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: entire year of misconnections and opportunities wrapped up with a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: serendipitous meeting in New York. Bodega lyrics, music storytelling skills
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: are all off the charts. Well now, I am super
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: intrigued and I can't wait to check this out. Three
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: to one two rights in. Good morning, Jake. I'm just
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: catching up with the Disgrace Sland episodes and heard you're
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: soliloquy about how rock and roll is dead and it's
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: never coming back, and this is a crazy false statement.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: It's not as dominant as it once was, but it's
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: still there. There are a lot of new, exciting bands
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: putting out quality stuff. We just won't hear them in
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the Top forty again. But screw the Top forty and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: let the gatekeeping begin. Have a great day. Your podcast
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: is the best out there. I have your book from
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: a few years back and hope that you'll put something
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: out there again. Three one two. Really appreciate the text
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: because it gives me an opportunity to explain this a
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: little bit better. I agree with everything you're saying, but
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you're missing my point. My point is exactly exactly this.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Rock and roll is dead because it is not on
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the top forty. Rock and roll is dead because it
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: is not pushing mainstream culture in the way that it
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: once did, and I don't think it ever will again.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: And if you listen last week like you did three
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: one two, I think, in addition to the music sort
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: of becoming relegated to a sort of subgenre of popular
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: music and the way that jazz has become, I think
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that's the fate of rock and roll. It'll never dial completely.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I'm totally aware that there are incredible rock bands out
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: there killing it nightly in clubs, even in stadiums, but
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: still it doesn't erase the fact, doesn't negate my point
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: that rock and roll no longer drives popular culture. It doesn't.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: It just does not, and I don't think it will again.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: And that's a freaking bum out three one two. It
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: really bums me out. And like I said, I do
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: believe that the trajectory is it will be relegated to
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a subgenre of popular culture in the same way the
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: jazz swing, you know, big band music, all genres that
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: once dominated the top forty. That's where rock is going.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And I think what will happen is a lot of
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: these stories will be forgotten, a lot of these larger
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: than life personalities will fade with time. And part of
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: what we're doing here right now is preserving that it's
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: at the core of this storytelling. And in a way
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: three one two, those bands that you're talking about that
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: are out there killing it right now, they're doing the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: same thing. And my hat's off to them all right
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: over on x B K Kremal, cremoral, be Cremeral, I
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: don't know what they's called at three WK, Kramer hit
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: me up, says, listening to the led Zeppelin story this morning,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and I got to say, I don't think I'll be
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: able to hear them quite the same way again without
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: feeling a dark cloud of knowing. And some things can't
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: be unseen. Like Jimmy Page was thirty years old. Yep,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. The led Zeppelin one is a tough
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: one when considering our support of the art versus the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: artists based on Jimmy Page's behavior back in the day.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Side note, real quick, over on X. Any of you
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: over on X who are from New Jersey or DC area,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and you got eyes on these drones that are going
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: on these UAPs, these UFOs get at me at Disgrace
• 30:00
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• 30:04
  Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff. It's freaking me out. I'm sure
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you're freaked out to that point. We'll be looking not
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: at drones tonight if you're listening on Thursday to this episode,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: because we're going to be looking at the Tom DeLong
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: little documentary that we made Disgraceland doc called We Are
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Not Alone. This is going to drop live on Patreon
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: at eight pm Eastern Standard Time Thursday, December twelfth, which
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: is when this bonus episode that you're listening to right
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: now is being released. I will be in Patreon in
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the chat chat and away commenting on this, eating my popcorn.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Beavis and butt he editing this thing. As I like
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to say, we're gonna be talking to UAPs uphology the
• 30:46
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• 30:49
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• 31:08
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• 31:10
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• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Facebook in the last week. You may have noticed, you know.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: It's one of those things. I woke up a couple
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: of days ago I looked at Facebook. We had attracted
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: like four thousand new followers in a month's time without
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: me even posting, just cross posting reels over from Instagram.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: And there's a pretty active community over there. If you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: guys are over there on Facebook, I've been neglecting you.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I apologize. I think what I'm going to start doing
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: on Facebook, because it's a different medium. I think I'm
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: going to be releasing some different videos over there that
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not releasing anywhere else longer videos in the reels,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: but not quite as long as what you'd find on YouTube,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: you know, like in the you know, two to three
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: minute range something like that. Just trying some different types
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: of storytelling with us over there. Uh, there seems to
• 32:02
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• 32:04
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• 32:06
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• 32:13
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• 32:18
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• 32:22
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• 32:24
  Speaker 1: but when I post something on Facebook, ninety percent of
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the people who see it are not you guys, are
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: not the followers. I don't know why. This is just
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the way that it is. But if you engage with me,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you will get the content or regularly the algorithm will
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: figure it out. It's something that you want, Okay. Anyways,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Troy Daniel on Facebook writes how to make Gravy by
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Paul Kelly is a song you may not get sent
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Kelly is kind of Australia's Dylan, and around here, the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: twenty first of December is known as Gravy Day. Give
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: it a spin, I reckon you'll dig it, Troy. I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: have spun it and someone from Australia turned me on
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: to this last year and I love the song. It's
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: great and I love it so much. I thought it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I thought your message worth reading here because if anyone
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: has not heard this, you need to check it out.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Paul Kelly Gravy by Paul Kelly. Okay, Christmas to go.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Check that out on Instagram at Disgrace Slam pod Anastasio Staskalopolis.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: My Greek brethren writes, Hey, Jake ad from the four
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to one zero for best Christmas rock and roll song,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, I don't want to fight tonight by the Ramones.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Such an honest song. So many of us can immediately
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: relate to it, Yes, yes we can. There's nothing worse
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: than fighting with your loved one on Christmas. Okay, I
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: can't say it happens to me. My wife and I
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: get a good thing going, but it has happened to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: me in the past, girlfriends, etc. And it's a fucking drag.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: No one wants tension around the holidays. If you, guys,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: you're heading into a tense situation this holiday. You know
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, bad family history, You don't want to
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: talk about politics, you don't want to talk about Just
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: talk about Shadah, just you know, light in the mood.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Let people know Shada is not actually sha Day's name.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is her name, but it's not her name.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's a band's name. It's
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: kind of her name. You know. You can you pull
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: from any number of crazy disgrace Land factoids that I've
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: given you to sort of distract from not fighting. Merry Christmas.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I don't want to fight tonight, all right, guys six
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• 34:51
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• 36:10
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• 36:15
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