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8-17-26 Hour 1 - Broncos begin preseason with a BANG/More preseason takeaways/Jayden Daniels #5 Saga · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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Speaker 2: Watch out for Prentice the full back. Here the handoff
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Speaker 2: is to Prentice and he is in for the touchdown.
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Speaker 2: A seven play drive results in a touchdown for the
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Speaker 2: Denver Brockers. Play action pressure coming off the backside, the
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Speaker 2: pass dump Doc to McLoughlin and he gets in for
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Speaker 2: the touchdown. Julia McLoughlin off the pass from Jared Stidham.
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Speaker 2: Third and six. They can get a first down without
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Speaker 2: getting a touchdown. Rush tick ball and that one's intercept
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Speaker 2: it pet it the other way. Jud A Barren all
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Speaker 2: the way the pick six.
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Speaker 3: no mos no vic. But we have Chad Brown, my man,
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Speaker 3: joining us for the next few days here at Camp Chad.
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Speaker 3: First of all, yes, we'll get to the game in
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Speaker 3: a second. Sean Payton likes to be sort of a
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Speaker 3: jerk though he relishes in't.
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Speaker 5: That oh man? Uh I used to think it was
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Speaker 5: just reflexive, like he couldn't help it. Now it's like, okay,
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Speaker 5: this is purpose.
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Speaker 3: Oh, this is calculating, this is calculated.
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Speaker 5: Yes, and so the jerk showed up with the halftime
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Speaker 5: because normally a coach doesn't have time to think for
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Speaker 5: about something like that, but to comment on the stand anymore.
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Speaker 3: So now he's like, let me iron this out.
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Speaker 5: As he was walking over, going through a couple of
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Speaker 5: one liners in his head. Yeah, yes, the Seawan Peyton
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Speaker 5: is I uh, I admire a coach who brings humor
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Speaker 5: to the process.
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Speaker 3: Oh me too. Yeah. Look, we've seen this from the
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Speaker 3: very beginning, like he came here and usually what preseason is,
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Speaker 3: you've been through it. It's like you play a few snaps.
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Speaker 3: If you're a starter or something like that, then you're
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Speaker 3: kind of hanging out chewing sunflower seeds on the sideline. Hey,
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Speaker 3: I'll do an interview with the local TV broadcast. He's like,
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Speaker 3: not doing interviews, No, bucket hats on the sideline. Now me,
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say whatever I want, but you guys nothing.
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Speaker 3: So it's just it's funny because this is classic what
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Speaker 3: Sean Payton does. Now to the actual game part, I
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Speaker 3: don't know where you're at on things you can take
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Speaker 3: away from preseason games things you can't. Is it real?
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Speaker 3: Is it not? I think individual stuff is something that
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Speaker 3: can carry over that you can recognize in the preseason
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Speaker 3: that can work in the regular season. But if they're
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Speaker 3: there's one thing from the game. It looked like with
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Speaker 3: Davis Webb calling the plays in a limited playbook, there
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Speaker 3: felt to be a rhythm to the game. There felt like,
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Speaker 3: you know, guys are getting to the line with fifteen
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Speaker 3: seconds on the play clock, giving Stidham and Ellinger chances
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Speaker 3: to read defense, going to check. Stuff like that. And
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Speaker 3: I think that's a big reason why they made the
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Speaker 3: switch to Davis web calling plays this year.
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Speaker 5: I got two thoughts on that. I think you are
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Speaker 5: correct that is one of the bigger reasons why they
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Speaker 5: made the switch. I think Sean Payton recognized that his
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Speaker 5: fastball as a play caller was going away a bit. Yeah. Now,
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Speaker 5: I will say this about Davis Web in preseason game one.
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Speaker 5: Preseason game one, you're only doing your stuff. You're not
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Speaker 5: getting a call from up in the press box about
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Speaker 5: what they're playing and who's on the field and what
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Speaker 5: personnel packages, and you're not tuning your game plan to
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Speaker 5: the opponent. Yeah, you don't build a game plan during
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Speaker 5: the week. Your game plan is literally about what we've practiced,
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Speaker 5: what we've done. Now Here in week two, this will
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Speaker 5: be a far better test because coaches begin to start
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Speaker 5: to formulate a game plan, they spend time this week,
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Speaker 5: They'll be watching the opponent. They'll be saying, Okay, this
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Speaker 5: is what they do on third down, this is what
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Speaker 5: they prefer. From a blitz package perspective. Now, Davis Well
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Speaker 5: will have to do more than just look at his place.
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Speaker 5: You can think, oh, what call actually works, but what
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Speaker 5: call works, what's gonna work against this team, what personnel's
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Speaker 5: on the field, all those kind of variables and components
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Speaker 5: that weren't a factor in game one.
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Speaker 3: So there's a million different things that I want to
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Speaker 3: get to from that first preseason game, but one of them,
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Speaker 3: you know, this has been a discussion all camp, and
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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I'm somebody like, I'm not all that
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Speaker 3: interested in this particular battle, just because I think if
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Speaker 3: you get to this point, you're probably screwed anyway. And
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Speaker 3: it's like, who's going to be the backup between Stidhem
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Speaker 3: and Ellinger? And I think the evaluation of Jared Stidham
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Speaker 3: the AFC Championship game is almost a little bit unfair
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Speaker 3: to him given the circumstance he was in. Have him
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Speaker 3: played a snap, an actual NFL snap in a regular
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Speaker 3: season game in over two years, and then you get
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Speaker 3: put in the situation where it's the highest stakes that
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Speaker 3: you could ask for, plus the snow coming in, and
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Speaker 3: I know that people are like, oh, don't make excuses,
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Speaker 3: he's a professional. I was like, well, Drake may was
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Speaker 3: second in the MVP vote and he had eighty passing
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Speaker 3: yards in that game. So I think it's tough to
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Speaker 3: evaluate just that. But I think that's stemming or stemming
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Speaker 3: from that game leads to this battle between him and
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Speaker 3: Ellinger or Ellinger for the backup quarterback spot.
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Speaker 5: I think that's part of it. But if you're gonna
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Speaker 5: ask Sean Payton, I think he's gonna want Jared Sidham.
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Speaker 5: Every time he brought Jared cidem Eric so too, he
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Speaker 5: gave him the big money contract. If you're gonna ask
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Speaker 5: George Payton, hey, we can save a whole lot of
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Speaker 5: money by going with Sam Ellinger, right. And then we've
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Speaker 5: also got the attic component of a guy who can
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Speaker 5: make plays with his legs at a higher level than
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Speaker 5: Jared sideculd I called a number of Sam's games when
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Speaker 5: he's at Texas. His ability to run the football is
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Speaker 5: just simply greater than Jared Siddams. He's a better athlete,
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Speaker 5: a more solidly built athlete. Yep. So his ability to
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Speaker 5: put pressure on a defense that was preparing for both
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Speaker 5: knicks bow knicks goes down, he's nicked up. Somebody's got
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Speaker 5: to step in. Suddenly the defense, Suddenly the defensive line
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Speaker 5: coach before the defensive line takes the field. All right,
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Speaker 5: you gotta watch the run game. You gotta be prepared
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Speaker 5: for z own. You gotta do this guy. So that's a
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Speaker 5: whole different component than Jared Sidham stepping into the game.
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Speaker 5: So I could see George Peyton's point, Yeah, but I
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Speaker 5: can also see Sean Payton's point in this.
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Speaker 3: Battle from a just I guess style perspective, Would it
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Speaker 3: be preferable to have somebody like Ellinger's the backup because
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Speaker 3: he's a little bit more like bo Nicks the mobility
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Speaker 3: of that position. You know, bo Nix isn't you know,
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Speaker 3: he's not Lamar Jackson. But if you have a backup
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Speaker 3: quarterback in Baltimore and your starter's Lamar, it would be
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Speaker 3: weird if you had a Peyton Manning Asti type of
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Speaker 3: quarterback backing him up.
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Speaker 5: Right, The trend seems to be we want our of course,
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Speaker 5: our starting to be a pocket passer of some sort. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: and then our backup guy to have some mobility because
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Speaker 5: the backup guy lifts face facts when he comes in
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Speaker 5: the game. His ability to do the progressions the same
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Speaker 5: way as a starter, it's just not going to be
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Speaker 5: at that high level. So let's have a guy who
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Speaker 5: can take off and create some some plays with his legs.
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Speaker 5: Let's got let's get at a guy back there who
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Speaker 5: can on third and six, he can find the way
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Speaker 5: to weave to the pocket pick up the first down.
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Speaker 5: And I think Sam gives you a better opportunity for that.
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Speaker 5: But again, Sean Payton, we started the show talking about
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Speaker 5: some of his particularities. Yeah, and I think from a
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Speaker 5: backup quarterback spot. I think he's willing to, you know,
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Speaker 5: and in Football Pilot's pound the table for Jared did
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Speaker 5: him over Sam Allinger.
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Speaker 3: You know what's funny is that we were just talking
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Speaker 3: about this last week, and there's no way we'll ever
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Speaker 3: truly know this. We've gotten some detail on the process
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Speaker 3: throughout the postseason last year because they had seth Wicker
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Speaker 3: Shamba was like embedded with Sean Payton in this building,
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Speaker 3: right and we got all the stories if he wanted
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Speaker 3: to do the fake punt in overtime against the Bills
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Speaker 3: and all that. Do you think there's any part of
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Speaker 3: Sean Payton in that AFC Championship game that thought to
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Speaker 3: himself Because Will Lutz told Vic last week when he
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Speaker 3: lined up for the field goal he got tipped. He goes,
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Speaker 3: I couldn't see the goalpost I was guessing and where
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Speaker 3: I was kicking the ball, and that also translates to
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Speaker 3: you can't really see receivers twenty five thirty yards downfield either.
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Speaker 3: I think there's any part of Sean Payton that thought
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Speaker 3: if I put Ellinger in, he can at least run.
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Speaker 3: I think there's any part of that happened or is
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Speaker 3: he like, I'm pot committed Sidham. I hyped him up
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Speaker 3: all week. I have to stick with this.
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Speaker 5: I would certainly hope in my deepest core of football
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Speaker 5: thoughts that what he said to the media what did
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Speaker 5: not come into the evaluation process with who can best
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Speaker 5: win a football game.
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Speaker 3: But just from the perspective of I'm just throwing my
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Speaker 3: full weight of support behind this guy, not making a
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Speaker 3: change sort of thing.
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Speaker 5: I think he thought Sidham gave him the best chance
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Speaker 5: for success. Yeah, And so at some point if he
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Speaker 5: believed that Jared was afraid the moment was too big,
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Speaker 5: he was incapable for whatever reason, then I think Sean
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Speaker 5: would do the right thing and go with Sam. But
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Speaker 5: considering the situation, considering the snow that you just alluded to, Yeah,
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Speaker 5: I think he thought, I'm gonna stick with Jerry. He
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Speaker 5: gives me the best chance for success here.
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Speaker 3: So there's some other things. And one of the guys
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Speaker 3: that I was most intrigued about going in this first
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Speaker 3: preseason game, cause again I'm stemming a lot of this
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Speaker 3: off of last year, and you the Broncos are so
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Speaker 3: well built. You know, We've been talking about this all offseason.
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Speaker 3: When you have the retention rate that they have of
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Speaker 3: their starters coming back, where it's virtually everybody outside of
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Speaker 3: what John Franklin Myers and dray greenlaw like, you have
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Speaker 3: all of these different dudes that were on the roster
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Speaker 3: last year. There's not a lot of change.
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Speaker 6: But.
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Speaker 3: When you see maybe where you fell short in a
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Speaker 3: few areas last year, the Broncos were really effective at
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Speaker 3: running the football until JK. Dobbins got hurt and they
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Speaker 3: didn't have a guy whether it's R. J. Harvey, Jalil McLoughlin,
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Speaker 3: Tyler Badet, whoever came in that fit his same sort
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Speaker 3: of style. And you know, I talk about this all
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Speaker 3: the time, but just because two guys play the same position,
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Speaker 3: Draymond Green's a power forward and so's Dirk Nabisky, Like
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Speaker 3: they play the same position, but they are completely different
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Speaker 3: stylistically on how they go about it. I wanted Joanah
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Speaker 3: Coleman when they drafted him. It felt like that's gonna
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Speaker 3: be the JK. Dobbins insurance for that style of play. Now,
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Speaker 3: he had four carries for twenty four yards I think
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Speaker 3: in that game, but one of them was bounce off
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Speaker 3: a tackle, spin move turn a four yard run into
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Speaker 3: a thirteen yard run? What'd you think of him?
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Speaker 5: Five eight twenty short stout? So not only he does
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Speaker 5: he have the ability to hide behind the offensive line.
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Speaker 5: Not only is he just naturally going to have leverage
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Speaker 5: on you as a tackler, but now he's two twenty,
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Speaker 5: so he's a powerful man. Where do I grab that?
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Speaker 5: How do I wrap my arms around something built like that?
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Speaker 5: So just from the physical standpoint, that's a difficult tackle.
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Speaker 5: I know his college coach, Scottie Graham, really really well.
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Speaker 5: Scotty and I have been friends for a long time.
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Speaker 5: Scotty and I were on the NFLPA board together. Scotty
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Speaker 5: was a part of the PA for years and years.
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Speaker 5: And I don't know a more passionate college football coach
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Speaker 5: than Scottie Graham. So the Joonan coleman who shows up
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Speaker 5: in media appearances and talks about doing the right thing,
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Speaker 5: that's literally how he was trained. So to see him
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Speaker 5: go into the game, play hard, break tackles, have a
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Speaker 5: nice rep at pass protection, and then postgame say I
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Speaker 5: haven't accomplished anything. So his head's going to be screwed
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Speaker 5: on right. So you've got a rookie who has maturity
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Speaker 5: beyond his years, who's got a great college background from
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Speaker 5: a coaching standpoint, who's got a tremendous physical build. And
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Speaker 5: I think to your point, you want various skill in
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Speaker 5: your running back room, because if I'm Sean Payton, I
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Speaker 5: can call the same play, but it's gonna look different
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Speaker 5: because I got two different dudes running it. The temple's
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Speaker 5: going to be different. Where they're going to cut back
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Speaker 5: is going to be different. Each guy's ability to either
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Speaker 5: slice it right down the middle because I'm Joonah Coleman,
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Speaker 5: I'm not afraid to run through an arm tackle or
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Speaker 5: Julia mclough and I'm going to try to run outside
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Speaker 5: and break it outside and take advantage of my speed.
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Speaker 5: But it's the same play call everyone else is learning.
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Speaker 5: Is the same. We're just gonna run it a bit
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Speaker 5: differently because we have a different guy handing the ball
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Speaker 5: to So there's a lot to be said for different
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Speaker 5: skill sets in the room, But there's a lot to
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Speaker 5: be said about what Jonah Colemlan I think is going
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Speaker 5: to be able to accomplish this year in the backfield
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Speaker 5: for the Bronx.
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Speaker 3: I'm really excited about him, Like I think that he is.
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Speaker 3: It's funny, I said, it looks like he got you know,
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Speaker 3: those hydraulic presses. It's like you did that a quarter
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Speaker 3: the way down on him.
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Speaker 5: He watched those videos on YouTube.
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Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with them. I don't know why.
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Speaker 5: Watched the Russian couple. Huh huh, oh, there's a there's
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Speaker 5: a Russian couple.
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Speaker 3: What makes them different because it's.
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Speaker 5: A Russian couple and she's just excited as he is
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Speaker 5: as they destroy things with.
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Speaker 3: The hydraulic firstka, I need to see this.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh. I know. When I threw out Russian couple,
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Speaker 5: everyone their minds went some place where they shouldn't go.
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Speaker 5: It's a family oriented.
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Speaker 3: Hydraulic press video.
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Speaker 5: YouTube channel and literally you can go there and it's
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Speaker 5: the best ten crushes of the year. He does the
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Speaker 5: top ten list.
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Speaker 3: Why do we love that? As? I don't know if
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Speaker 3: women are the same way. Dudes for sure, were like
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Speaker 3: anything getting smashed. You're like, yeah, that's pretty cool. I
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Speaker 3: know what that is because we're.
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Speaker 5: All twelve year old boys. It never goes away.
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Speaker 3: Man, Mosure is funny. We were just talking about this
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Speaker 3: last week. Moser said this, right, I don't like the
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Speaker 3: hydraulic press videos of the things that are like that
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Speaker 3: just break and shatter everywhere. I need the smush, yes,
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Speaker 3: I need the stuff that's exiting the hydraulic press. But
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Speaker 3: to me, Jonah Coleman looks like you put him in
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Speaker 3: there about a quarter of the way and he's got
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Speaker 3: mush down like this and everything just got stockier and sturdier.
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Speaker 3: His legs to a mine put together. Yeah, that's what
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Speaker 3: his legs look like.
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Speaker 5: As a tackler. You talked to aim for the thighs,
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Speaker 5: and if I can't wrap my arm around your thighs,
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Speaker 5: I can't bring you down. So yes, again, his build
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Speaker 5: is perfect for what he does, his position on the field,
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Speaker 5: and how he runs the football.
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Speaker 3: So a lot more to get to from this game.
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Speaker 3: As we go along, stackgram third and six.
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Speaker 2: They can get a first down out getting a touchdown,
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Speaker 1: Jade Barren all the way the pick six.
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Speaker 7: Radio ninety two five. Welcome back to Moja, Lombardi and Kine.
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Speaker 7: We're taking a second here to get the boys reconnected
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Speaker 7: down at Broncos training camp. I guess they're having some
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Speaker 7: internet issues across the board, So in the meantime, let's
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Speaker 7: take a listen to what Broncos head coach Sean Payton
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Speaker 7: had to say after the game on Saturday, Broncos beating
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Speaker 7: the Falcons handily in preseason game number one. Here's what
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Speaker 7: the coach had to say afterwards, good first start.
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Speaker 6: You know, there's there's a lot of things that, yeah,
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Speaker 6: we look come into a game like this.
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Speaker 4: We were a little thin with the numbers on the
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Speaker 4: offensive line, so those guys are gonna have to play longer.
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Speaker 6: You did a good job with that.
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Speaker 4: We won the line of shrimmage. Guys played hard. There's
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Speaker 4: still you know, a lot of little creeped up the
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Speaker 4: penalties too many, but overall, good first time out and yeah,
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Speaker 4: any questions, it was smooth. Yeah, I mean I felt
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Speaker 4: like I think maybe there was a player too. We
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Speaker 4: got down to three seconds, but the subs were good.
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Speaker 4: Davis was on point. Yeah, I thought the cues did
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Speaker 4: a good job in and out of the huddle. And again,
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Speaker 4: you know, we had a couple of guys coming in,
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Speaker 4: Palco and Alex that were working out before the game.
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Speaker 6: You know, are they going to play?
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Speaker 3: Okay, we're back out here at Broncos Park. All brought
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Speaker 3: to you by Romost. Had a little connection problems. We
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Speaker 3: walked in this morning, Chad. So because those storms from
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Speaker 3: over the weekend, all of this stuff was like drenched
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Speaker 3: in here, and I think part of that messed with
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Speaker 3: the internet connection. So hopefully weren't the clear now. But
16:57
Speaker 3: as we continue to talk about first preseason game for
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Speaker 3: the Broncos, there was one I made a bold statement
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Speaker 3: the first day of camp. Prediction if you will doesn't
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Speaker 3: mean it's gonna happen. But I remember a couple of
17:10
Speaker 3: years ago, the Broncos went into camp with five really
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Speaker 3: good wide receivers, well good wide receivers, they should say,
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Speaker 3: and by the end of camp, Devon Vley was dealt
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Speaker 3: to the New Orleans Saints for a fourth round pick.
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Speaker 3: And I look at camp this year and you have
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Speaker 3: Courtland Sutton and now the new edition of Jalen Waddle,
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Speaker 3: and you have Troy Franklin and Pat Bryant Marvin Mims.
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Speaker 3: So Sutton and Waddle those year starters. Pat Bryant's had
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Speaker 3: a great camp, Mims has had a great camp. Do
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Speaker 3: you think all five of them stay on the roster
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Speaker 3: by the end of this or do you think the
17:42
Speaker 3: same thing kind of happens from you know, a couple
17:44
Speaker 3: of years ago with Devon Vley, where maybe they can
17:46
Speaker 3: get some value out of somebody at the end of camp.
17:48
Speaker 3: Because the one guy I always think about is Marvin Mims,
17:51
Speaker 3: an All Pro returner. He doesn't get a lot of
17:53
Speaker 3: snaps for whatever reason, but when he does get snaps,
17:55
Speaker 3: he's productive. He's entering the last year of his rookie
17:59
Speaker 3: con I just don't know. There's a lot of unknowns
18:03
Speaker 3: with them. He changed agents before this training camp started.
18:05
Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of like smoke to me surrounding that.
18:09
Speaker 3: But what do you think?
18:10
Speaker 5: I think it's a fascinating question, and it starts to
18:13
Speaker 5: speak to what your philosophy is going to be for
18:16
Speaker 5: this year? Are we all? Are we loading up? Are
18:19
Speaker 5: we loading up every single gun we got?
18:21
Speaker 3: Yeah?
18:22
Speaker 5: And the Marvin MEM's lack of production on offense is
18:26
Speaker 5: not so much an ISSRT because of what we get
18:28
Speaker 5: into special teams? Or are you looking are you continuing
18:31
Speaker 5: to always look into the future about we can turn
18:34
Speaker 5: this guy into some draft picks. He's an extra guy
18:35
Speaker 5: in everyone. He's only gonna catch twenty five balls this year.
18:39
Speaker 5: We've got all the balls are accounted for between Courtland
18:42
Speaker 5: Southern and Jaylen Waddle and these other guys. I guess
18:45
Speaker 5: we'll find out. I'm not sure if there's a right
18:47
Speaker 5: play here again, And you've got to recognize there's folks
18:50
Speaker 5: who look at the game in the season through two
18:54
Speaker 5: completely different lenses. And I know we talk about Sean
18:56
Speaker 5: Payton and George Payton seemingly being in lockstep. Yeah, but
18:59
Speaker 5: they're jobs are to look at it from a different perspective. Yeah,
19:02
Speaker 5: So George Paydon is going to be thinking about draft
19:05
Speaker 5: picks and the future and making sure there's always enough
19:09
Speaker 5: enough firepower here to build up the roster whenever they
19:12
Speaker 5: need to. And John Payn's thinking about today, this year,
19:15
Speaker 5: this game, this season. So who wins that battle, if
19:19
Speaker 5: it even is a battle. I don't think you can
19:21
Speaker 5: make a wrong.
19:22
Speaker 3: Choice to make a comparison, because I watched this happen
19:26
Speaker 3: in real time. The Nuggets win a championship three years ago,
19:30
Speaker 3: and you're thinking, Okay, you won one, let's win a
19:34
Speaker 3: couple of more. And you had a head coach and
19:36
Speaker 3: Michael Malone who did not want to play young players,
19:40
Speaker 3: who wanted to play trusted veterans. And you had a
19:42
Speaker 3: GM that knew the only path forward for us to
19:45
Speaker 3: stack a roster with depth is to draft guys who
19:48
Speaker 3: are on cheap contracts because our top guys are making
19:50
Speaker 3: so much money. And you had those two philosophies going
19:56
Speaker 3: against each other. Now that's not the case here. I
19:59
Speaker 3: think that George pay and Sean Payton are on the
20:01
Speaker 3: same page for the most part, but their jobs are different.
20:04
Speaker 3: And I'll give you another example, and you tell me
20:07
Speaker 3: you're defensive guy, hugely successful? Is it Seahawks? What were
20:12
Speaker 3: you just honored with with the Seattle.
20:13
Speaker 5: Top fifty Seahawk all time, Top.
20:15
Speaker 3: Fifty Seahawks all time? Perfect person asks this question too.
20:19
Speaker 3: You draft somebody in the first round at twentieth overall,
20:22
Speaker 3: you draft anybody in the first round that guy plays
20:24
Speaker 3: Johnny Barron can't find the field, not because he's not
20:27
Speaker 3: playing well, because you have a position that's stacked at corner.
20:30
Speaker 3: Right now, he gets the pick six in that game,
20:32
Speaker 3: deflected pass takes to the house. What do you think
20:35
Speaker 3: is going through his head right now? As a guy
20:37
Speaker 3: who again you asked Sean Payton George Peyton about him.
20:40
Speaker 3: They're like, he's exactly the guy we wanted when we
20:42
Speaker 3: drafted him. But you have Sir Tan and Riley Moss
20:45
Speaker 3: and Jaquan McMillan, who are all really good corners who
20:48
Speaker 3: are gonna play above him. What do you think is
20:49
Speaker 3: going through his head? Do you think he's frustrated by
20:52
Speaker 3: not getting on the field as much.
20:53
Speaker 5: I think, as a player, you should be frustrated. How
20:55
Speaker 5: could you not be I'm I've got my skill set,
20:58
Speaker 5: The coaches are all saying the right things bout me.
21:00
Speaker 5: But you also have to recognize that there's some great
21:02
Speaker 5: players in front of you, and then how do you
21:04
Speaker 5: maximize your opportunity so you can get in front of
21:06
Speaker 5: those guys? At cornerback, You're gonna play some snaps some games,
21:10
Speaker 5: four corners could be fifty percent of your defensive snaps.
21:14
Speaker 5: So there's he's not like a you know, a backup
21:19
Speaker 5: quarterback who you hope never sees the field. You've got
21:22
Speaker 5: a special team's role. You've got a defensive role. And
21:24
Speaker 5: so rather than allowing that frustration to take you away
21:27
Speaker 5: from your job, turn that inward. How do I maximize
21:31
Speaker 5: my snaps? How do I make these dudes say we
21:33
Speaker 5: gotta find a bigger role for you. We've got to
21:36
Speaker 5: find a way to get you on the field. Pick
21:39
Speaker 5: six in a preseason game. That's a good start. That's
21:41
Speaker 5: a good start. So I have to imagine to your point,
21:44
Speaker 5: he's probably not frustrated. He's probably feeling good about himself
21:47
Speaker 5: right now and willing to say, all right, by the
21:50
Speaker 5: time this preseason is over, let's check tape. I can
21:54
Speaker 5: show you how much I've improved. I can show you
21:56
Speaker 5: how much I'm willing to battle to earn my spot
21:58
Speaker 5: on the field. And he's a hell you guys, they're
22:00
Speaker 5: the ones you need to watch out.
22:03
Speaker 3: There's somebody in Riley Moss that seems to be this
22:08
Speaker 3: sort of polarizing figure within Broncos fans. And I'm much
22:15
Speaker 3: more in the camp if I recognize the difficulty of
22:17
Speaker 3: playing across from patzer Tan because you're gonna be the
22:20
Speaker 3: guy who gets targeted, which means you're gonna be the
22:22
Speaker 3: guy who is probably gonna get hit with some penalties
22:25
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. What's your evaluation of Riley Moss?
22:27
Speaker 3: You'll also want to pick in that first game.
22:30
Speaker 5: Find me a more mentally tough Bronco. Oh dude, don't
22:33
Speaker 5: worry with you. I'll wait, yeah, because we'll be sitting
22:36
Speaker 5: here for a long ass time. Yep. So the ability
22:38
Speaker 5: to know you are going to be targeted, the ability
22:41
Speaker 5: to know that they are going to come after you
22:43
Speaker 5: week after week after week, and to withstand that gauntlet.
22:50
Speaker 5: We've seen an offensive lineman who's the weakfish among them
22:54
Speaker 5: and gets targeted week after week, and at some point
22:56
Speaker 5: he wants to take his ball and go home. Yeah.
22:59
Speaker 5: I did not see a point last year where Riley
23:01
Speaker 5: Moss wanted to take its ball and go home, not once,
23:03
Speaker 5: and then to stand up to the media after the
23:06
Speaker 5: game answer all the questions. Yeah, own it up. So
23:11
Speaker 5: that's mental toughness, that's football character. That's what you want
23:16
Speaker 5: in your locker room. So even if he's not necessarily
23:19
Speaker 5: the best guy by the end of the season, So
23:21
Speaker 5: maybe one of these other guys we've been talking about
23:23
Speaker 5: takes over that role. How could you not want that attitude?
23:26
Speaker 5: How could you not want that type of football character.
23:29
Speaker 5: So I love Riley Moss for what he's been able
23:32
Speaker 5: to accoum.
23:53
Speaker 7: All right, it appears some of those internet issues at
23:55
Speaker 7: training camp have returned. Like they said that that storm
23:58
Speaker 7: this weekend did some one for the Wi Fi down
24:01
Speaker 7: there at Dove Valley. So I'm gonna kick it back
24:04
Speaker 7: over to what we were listening to at the beginning
24:06
Speaker 7: of this segment, a little more of what Broncos head
24:09
Speaker 7: coach Sean Payton had to say after the first preseason game,
24:13
Speaker 7: that drubbing of his old foe, the Atlanta Falcons.
24:19
Speaker 6: Especially, Yeah, I thought he played well.
24:23
Speaker 4: I thought he did a good job in the pocket,
24:26
Speaker 4: good throw and catch, certainly in that coverage. Look by
24:28
Speaker 4: Courtland's one of the things he does well. We had
24:32
Speaker 4: our hands on a couple of balls to defensively, you
24:35
Speaker 4: know that we we gotta clean up a little bit.
24:39
Speaker 4: I thought in the second half. You know, there were
24:42
Speaker 4: a few opportunities, just some penalties, but overall.
24:47
Speaker 6: Good first outing.
24:50
Speaker 4: Since you know the AF championshipppointment.
24:54
Speaker 6: Yeah, I look at approached.
24:58
Speaker 4: He's been great, and it was it wasn't just a
25:01
Speaker 4: disappointment for him, you know, it was you know, I
25:03
Speaker 4: was disappointed myself, Like you know, when you lose a
25:06
Speaker 4: game like that and you go back and look at
25:07
Speaker 4: it closely, you know, the margins in that game, you know. Yeah,
25:15
Speaker 4: and so he's been look one of his strengths is
25:20
Speaker 4: his resiliency and and I think, uh, you know, he's
25:24
Speaker 4: got a little bit of that it factor that he
25:27
Speaker 4: can come in get the you know, he's really good
25:29
Speaker 4: with with the operation quick you know, with the play.
25:33
Speaker 4: His experience and his comfort level with you know how
25:36
Speaker 4: we're calling it.
25:39
Speaker 6: I thought he. I thought he handled it well preseason games.
25:47
Speaker 4: I was, well, we had we had we had seventeen
25:53
Speaker 4: people in the training room that weren't players, so we
25:55
Speaker 4: had every author. We had five people, so we had
25:58
Speaker 4: every doctor in Denver here, all right, So we were
26:02
Speaker 4: covered there.
26:04
Speaker 6: You know, we had fifteen trainers.
26:09
Speaker 4: This is the time of the year where everyone has
26:11
Speaker 4: three interns for the summer equipment room.
26:14
Speaker 6: And so it was good.
26:16
Speaker 4: There were some times where Patrick was good. His numbers
26:18
Speaker 4: were down. They weren't as bad as I've made him
26:21
Speaker 4: out to be. But what happens, though, sometimes is more
26:26
Speaker 4: is not better. And so on one of these trips,
26:28
Speaker 4: you just start making notes and you guys are too
26:31
Speaker 4: young to remember, Oh, who's the guy that takes the notes?
26:36
Speaker 4: The whole movie, I'll think of it, and he's just
26:42
Speaker 4: asking for everyone's name. Come on, not the no anyway,
26:50
Speaker 4: the whole movie. He chips the tooth and he's asking
26:52
Speaker 4: for everyone's name. He's they're just a handful of things
26:56
Speaker 4: on the trip that I think we got a button up.
27:01
Speaker 3: No.
27:02
Speaker 4: No, these are things that that occur early in the
27:05
Speaker 4: preseason that when you have a lot of new staff
27:11
Speaker 4: and and the operation was good. But we felt like
27:15
Speaker 4: we have and it's that time of year where you're
27:19
Speaker 4: full with training camp with a ton of people helping
27:23
Speaker 4: that in a couple of weeks or a week and
27:24
Speaker 4: a half, that will thin up.
27:29
Speaker 6: Jack Lemon Jack I'm talking about.
27:47
Speaker 4: He's he's taken it, he's he wants everyone's name, he's upset.
27:50
Speaker 4: It was just he cracks his tooth on a cracker
27:53
Speaker 4: jack toy. Surprise, Come on. I was pleased with that.
28:02
Speaker 4: And look, I thought, I thought the Runners played well
28:06
Speaker 4: and I thought we blocked him pretty well. And you know,
28:10
Speaker 4: it's a kind of a heavy front. They'll play some
28:13
Speaker 4: some bass like we'll see. But I thought, I thought that,
28:19
Speaker 4: you know, all those guys, you know, I know we
28:22
Speaker 4: had one fumble, but those guys ran hard.
28:24
Speaker 3: Points in the fourth quarter against the Giants, right they
28:27
Speaker 3: came back from being down I think seventeen in the
28:29
Speaker 3: fourth quarter to the Eagles. That's just playing with fire.
28:34
Speaker 3: And they were on the right side of that a
28:36
Speaker 3: lot last year. You can't do that again. And one
28:40
Speaker 3: of the things I think about with bo Nix is
28:43
Speaker 3: I think at the end of games he just played
28:46
Speaker 3: like he was just playing ball, and maybe there was
28:48
Speaker 3: a lot of like thinking that was happening early in
28:51
Speaker 3: a game and maybe overthinking. They contributed to a lot
28:54
Speaker 3: of start and stop stuff that hopefully in year three
28:57
Speaker 3: it's going to be more consistent from quarter one to four.
29:01
Speaker 5: I don't think Bo and Sean were on the same
29:04
Speaker 5: page as far as how to attack and start a
29:06
Speaker 5: football game. Yeah, and so I think Sean as the
29:10
Speaker 5: head coach, is prone to do, Hey, let's try to
29:12
Speaker 5: win the game. Run the football, to try to win
29:14
Speaker 5: the game with defense. Let's look at this game through
29:17
Speaker 5: this particular lens. But you need a quarterback who can
29:21
Speaker 5: do it all. Now, obviously the Seahawks have a great defense,
29:25
Speaker 5: and they got on a running game streak late in
29:28
Speaker 5: the season and through the playoffs that really supported Sam Darnold.
29:32
Speaker 5: But I was in Seattle for that Thursday night game
29:36
Speaker 5: against the Rams, I think week sixteen or seventeen, he
29:39
Speaker 5: outdueled Matt Stafford. So you need a quarterback who could
29:42
Speaker 5: also do that as well.
29:44
Speaker 3: So, yeah, Bonnicks I think did it to Josh Allen
29:46
Speaker 3: in the playoff game.
29:47
Speaker 5: Clearly Josh Allen had four interceptions. He was the better quarterback.
29:51
Speaker 5: Clear quarterback on the field.
29:52
Speaker 3: When Josh Allen wasn't throwing a pick though he was
29:55
Speaker 3: really good. I mean, they finished part of that whole
29:59
Speaker 3: discussion that he had about, you know, the fake pun
30:01
Speaker 3: and fourth down that he wanted to run, that that
30:06
Speaker 3: Sean Payton wanted to run in overtime, and you look
30:10
Speaker 3: at the numbers when the opposing offense has almost five
30:13
Speaker 3: hundred yards of offense, like you kind of get it,
30:15
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, they're just gonna have to make
30:17
Speaker 3: a mistake and we're gonna lose. And great play by
30:20
Speaker 3: Jake Onon McMillan changes all that stuff. But gosh, it
30:23
Speaker 3: was crazy because you look back at that game. If
30:26
Speaker 3: bo Nicks does not play his ass off like he did,
30:28
Speaker 3: you don't win that. You really don't. Even with the turnovers,
30:31
Speaker 3: you don't win that game.
30:33
Speaker 5: So I think you need a quarterback who can recognize
30:36
Speaker 5: that we've got talent in other places. But there's going
30:39
Speaker 5: to be three to five games this year where you
30:43
Speaker 5: are going to need me to step up and outdual
30:46
Speaker 5: that other guy. Yeah, So, whether it's you know, Josh
30:48
Speaker 5: Allen in a playoff game, if it's Patrick Mahomes in
30:52
Speaker 5: a divisional game, he'th going to have to be able
30:56
Speaker 5: to compete with the best for this team to go
30:58
Speaker 5: when we want them to go. He may not always
31:00
Speaker 5: be the second best quarterback on the team right on
31:03
Speaker 5: the field when we play a good football team.
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31:22
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31:24
Speaker 3: Brown filling in for Vican Mose today. Chad, you were
31:28
Speaker 3: just talking to me, take yourself back to your training
31:31
Speaker 3: camp days and the amount of sheer people that are
31:35
Speaker 3: at training camp now, from people that are within the
31:39
Speaker 3: training room to these guys mowing and getting the field ready.
31:42
Speaker 3: How often they mow for you before camp started.
31:44
Speaker 5: I felt like if we got a mow once a week. Yeah,
31:47
Speaker 5: it was going well. At Saint Vincent College. As a
31:50
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Steeler, they still do training camp at Saint Vincent College,
31:54
Speaker 5: one of the few teams that still go to some
31:55
Speaker 5: place for a training camp and don't do it at
31:57
Speaker 5: their own home facility. The difference is night and day.
32:02
Speaker 5: It's at Saint Vincent College. This tint that we are
32:06
Speaker 5: in right now broadcasting the radio show from this is
32:09
Speaker 5: where our weight room was at st. It was on
32:12
Speaker 5: the football field under a tent like this, so you
32:17
Speaker 5: dropped your pads and just went walked to the corner
32:20
Speaker 5: of the field where the weight room was. There was
32:23
Speaker 5: no floor in the weight room, so now you're doing
32:26
Speaker 5: squats on the same grass that you practiced on. Versus
32:30
Speaker 5: we're watching the grass crew out here all morning perfecting
32:36
Speaker 5: this practice grass for it just for today, and they're
32:38
Speaker 5: gonna do the same thing tomorrow and the day after.
32:41
Speaker 5: Every time there's someone working on this grass, it will
32:43
Speaker 5: be cut. It will be what's the guy with the
32:46
Speaker 5: level or what is it that steam roll? There? We go,
32:49
Speaker 5: an old school steamroller. There's probably no steam coming out
32:52
Speaker 5: of it, but yes, it's gonna flatten the groundite and
32:54
Speaker 5: make a complete even surface I didn't play on. Even
32:57
Speaker 5: surfaces I saw, we didn't practice on them. I'm happy
33:01
Speaker 5: for these guys, but to Sean Payton's point about all
33:05
Speaker 5: the people that are around during training camp. When I
33:09
Speaker 5: did my coaching internships, there is nothing worse than a
33:12
Speaker 5: preseason game away because not only do we have to
33:18
Speaker 5: start watching tape as soon as we get on the plane,
33:20
Speaker 5: not only gonna get back extra late because it takes
33:22
Speaker 5: so much time to get everyone showered and all the stuff.
33:26
Speaker 5: Once you get on the plane, every seat it's taken,
33:28
Speaker 5: it's just tight. It's a lot of guys. Instead of
33:32
Speaker 5: writing up my linebacker report about the five guys who played,
33:35
Speaker 5: I got to write up report about twelve guys who played.
33:38
Speaker 5: So preseason sucks for a lot of reasons. But I
33:42
Speaker 5: think Sean Payton's curmudgeoningly lists very slurred up word right there.
33:47
Speaker 5: But when he was talking about all the people, extra
33:49
Speaker 5: people hanging around, because yes, the communications department has five interns.
33:54
Speaker 5: We need more guys in the training room because we
33:56
Speaker 5: got more players. We need more guys hauling equipment because
33:58
Speaker 5: we have more players. It's just a lot of people.
34:01
Speaker 5: It's a lot of a lot of hassle, and I
34:03
Speaker 5: think everyone just wants to fast forward and get to
34:05
Speaker 5: the regular season.
34:06
Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you this because speaking of change.
34:08
Speaker 3: College football is a little bit different now, but there's
34:10
Speaker 3: a big story, and I don't know if it's a
34:14
Speaker 3: big story, but it became basically a meme. I saw
34:20
Speaker 3: about five different MLB teams yesterday use some amalgamation of
34:27
Speaker 3: let's say they had four runs and some guy hit
34:31
Speaker 3: it to run home or to get him to six.
34:34
Speaker 3: They would say something like skipped five in honor of
34:38
Speaker 3: Jade and Daniels because of his whole story to LSU
34:41
Speaker 3: about letting somebody use his number, Is this jad and
34:46
Speaker 3: Daniels just being petty? Is this Lsu? Maybe not? You
34:51
Speaker 3: have a Heisman Trophy winner, Maybe we shouldn't let that
34:54
Speaker 3: somebody use the number? Like what do you think about
34:56
Speaker 3: Jayden h It seems unnecessary At the.
35:02
Speaker 5: Very least, it is unnecessary. Could this have been handled
35:05
Speaker 5: quietly behind the scenes as a Heisman Trophy winner? I would.
35:09
Speaker 5: I don't think it's out of bounds to want some
35:11
Speaker 5: kind of respect or record of that. And then when
35:15
Speaker 5: you've got two recent Heisman Trophy winners and one's given
35:20
Speaker 5: one set of treatment and the others getting a difference
35:22
Speaker 5: set of treatment, I can understand where Jaden Daniels and
35:24
Speaker 5: his camp are coming from jading. Daniels also needs to
35:27
Speaker 5: be able to read the room. There is this whole
35:30
Speaker 5: feeling about you because everywhere you go you with your
35:33
Speaker 5: mom man, and now you're complaining about they're using my number.
35:37
Speaker 5: It comes across a soft man. So man up, handle
35:41
Speaker 5: your business, talking your big boy voice to the folks
35:43
Speaker 5: with LSU get this figured out, but don't let this
35:47
Speaker 5: play out in the media, become a meme because now
35:50
Speaker 5: you're the joke.
35:51
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's bad. It's just like, is this a
35:55
Speaker 3: hell you want to die on? I think about this?
35:58
Speaker 3: You know, there's some jokes that we make where Nelly
36:01
Speaker 3: will look at his sideways on this show and sometimes
36:04
Speaker 3: I'm like, look, I got a joke for this. Is
36:06
Speaker 3: this worth a talk with the boss afterwards? Probably not.
36:08
Speaker 3: We'll just shove that one off to the side, right
36:10
Speaker 3: And this feels like one of those moments. It's like,
36:12
Speaker 3: was this something that you think is worth? What's happening
36:15
Speaker 3: to you right now? It's like, you should just shut
36:17
Speaker 3: this down now. The difference I heard somebody make between
36:22
Speaker 3: him and Burrow because statistically their seasons were pretty similar.
36:26
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow was one of the most prolific seasons in
36:29
Speaker 3: the history of college football.
36:30
Speaker 5: One of the best teams ever in college football.
36:33
Speaker 3: But they want a title. Right, he didn't. Right, he
36:36
Speaker 3: is a Heisman winner, He's a Heisman He's great. But
36:39
Speaker 3: I do think the title puts another sort of added
36:42
Speaker 3: thing on to it. I don't know, it just seems silly.
36:45
Speaker 5: You do know, you absolutely do know. You do know,
36:50
Speaker 5: And that was part of the issue at see you
36:53
Speaker 5: with the retirement of the numbers. Yeah, it's like, okay, yes,
36:56
Speaker 5: these were great players, but did you win the conference?
37:00
Speaker 5: Did you win something great? Yes, Travis won the Heisman.
37:04
Speaker 5: You deserve to have your flowers.
37:06
Speaker 3: If it was just Travis would be different.
37:08
Speaker 5: It would have been completely diff Yes. And so there's
37:12
Speaker 5: obviously a lot of feelings, sure around these things. And
37:17
Speaker 5: so I'm assuming LSU and Jane Daniels will get this
37:21
Speaker 5: all figured out. But it's right now, you've become the
37:24
Speaker 5: butt of a joke. You cannot handle this well on
37:26
Speaker 5: the front end. I'm not exactly sure how you say
37:30
Speaker 5: face at this point, but how do you back down?
37:34
Speaker 5: You're using your name, image and likeness. There's a reason
37:37
Speaker 5: why we pay guys for that. Yeah, that's it. We
37:39
Speaker 5: would all expect the same thing. Sure, when I was
37:41
Speaker 5: one of my biggest complaints when I was at CUS,
37:43
Speaker 5: Like I see the thirty four jerseys on campus and
37:46
Speaker 5: I can barely scrape together four ninety five for a
37:49
Speaker 5: black Jack pizza, the worst cheapest pizza available.
37:54
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, man, Like, Sorry, we're on the subject.
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Speaker 3: Not a sponsor right this next s E've been brought
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Speaker 3: to you by black No, I'm just kidding while we're
38:06
Speaker 3: on the subject, not to put you in a weird spot.
38:10
Speaker 3: You're in a lumb of the school. You love the school,
38:12
Speaker 3: you want them to be successful. But I've thought for
38:14
Speaker 3: a long time it's you know, do you how many
38:17
Speaker 3: first got here? Is a lot of fun, a lot
38:18
Speaker 3: of the tension. That second year is pretty good year
38:20
Speaker 3: you win nine games. But even if it's not Dion,
38:25
Speaker 3: who's one of the highest paid coaches in college football,
38:27
Speaker 3: any coach going into year four needs to have some
38:31
Speaker 3: sort of expectation of winning. Now, I don't know where
38:33
Speaker 3: you put the bar on that this year. You know,
38:36
Speaker 3: I fully recognize where they started from to now, But
38:39
Speaker 3: four years in, that's a full recruiting cycle. Even though
38:42
Speaker 3: it's every year now with the transfer portal. I think
38:45
Speaker 3: there's got to be some expectation of winning. There has to,
38:48
Speaker 3: And I don't know what the consequences would be, like,
38:50
Speaker 3: I don't think his job would be in jeopardy or
38:52
Speaker 3: anything like that, But it is kind of like, if
38:56
Speaker 3: we aren't starting to win now, then what is sort
38:58
Speaker 3: of the expectation of what should be happening? You know
39:00
Speaker 3: what I mean?
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Speaker 5: As you know, I travel around the country and I
39:02
Speaker 5: call college in NFL games. Yep, So I get a
39:05
Speaker 5: chance to talk to people who have a zero emotional
39:09
Speaker 5: tie to see you, but are just football people. Yeah,
39:12
Speaker 5: and they bring up the point that you just made. Okay,
39:16
Speaker 5: it's year four. Where are you? How have you made
39:19
Speaker 5: your program better? How have you created a structure that
39:23
Speaker 5: will allow you to win? How have you springboarded off
39:27
Speaker 5: this year to this year to this year? And so
39:28
Speaker 5: if we're looking at the situation and see you objectively,
39:31
Speaker 5: this is now the third roster style that they've gone through. Yeah.
39:37
Speaker 5: The first one was I'm gonna bring a bunch of
39:38
Speaker 5: guys from Jackson State. I've got my Louis luggage, these
39:42
Speaker 5: special players, and we're gonna find a way to win.
39:44
Speaker 5: Then the second one was Oh, we're gonna get guys
39:47
Speaker 5: from Alabama and Oklahoma who are discontent where they're at,
39:52
Speaker 5: and we'll find a way to get them back to
39:54
Speaker 5: their previous star ranking. Yeah, well that didn't work because
39:57
Speaker 5: there was a reason why those guys didn't have success
40:00
Speaker 5: Alabama or Oklahoma. Some of them weren't very good, some
40:02
Speaker 5: of them didn't love football, some of them were just
40:04
Speaker 5: mercenaries looking for money. And now we got this third
40:08
Speaker 5: style of roster building. We're gonna go to smaller schools,
40:13
Speaker 5: but we're gonna get a bunch of guys with a
40:14
Speaker 5: lot of starts and a lot of experience. Yeah, well,
40:18
Speaker 5: smaller school doesn't always translate to big school. And just
40:21
Speaker 5: because you were great at a lower level, are you
40:23
Speaker 5: gonna be able to compete with the best of the
40:24
Speaker 5: Big Twelve, which at the top of the conference is
40:28
Speaker 5: as good as any team in the country byu as
40:32
Speaker 5: a top ten football team, Texas Texas top fifteen football team,
40:36
Speaker 5: Utah is roaring back, Arizona State will have some weeks
40:40
Speaker 5: where they are a top fifteen football team, possibly top ten. Sure.
40:45
Speaker 5: I mean, so there's some really good teams at the
40:48
Speaker 5: top of the Big Twelve, And now you are still
40:51
Speaker 5: trying to figure out what your roster style is. As
40:55
Speaker 5: a Pittsburgh Steeler. They have run the same defense since
40:59
Speaker 5: I was My rookie year was nineteen ninety three.
41:02
Speaker 3: Wow.
41:03
Speaker 5: So when you have that same style defense, your folks
41:07
Speaker 5: who go out and get you personnel. We need another
41:10
Speaker 5: outside linebacker. Okay, we can find a guy like TJ.
41:14
Speaker 5: Watt was at Wisconsin, like Chad Brown was at Colorado,
41:18
Speaker 5: like Joey Porter and Clark Haagen's were at Colorado State.
41:21
Speaker 5: Greg Lloyd was at Fort Valley State, Kevin Green was
41:23
Speaker 5: with the Los Angeles Rams. We know what that model
41:26
Speaker 5: looks like. We've seen it before. We can feel this
41:29
Speaker 5: position comfortably and confidently because we know what we're doing.
41:32
Speaker 5: But if you constantly change in your roster style, you
41:36
Speaker 5: don't even know what you got in the room.
41:38
Speaker 3: Well, and to that point, Chad, it's like there's not
41:43
Speaker 3: a real identity with what his teams are. You know,
41:48
Speaker 3: as you've mentioned, they've changed.
41:51
Speaker 5: And well, I mean, if we're gonna year one, he talked,
41:55
Speaker 5: He chastised the media. What's this culture thing? You guys
41:59
Speaker 5: are talking about culture winning? This culture It's like, no,
42:02
Speaker 5: you have to build the culture to win. So here
42:05
Speaker 5: year four now, under some pressure, goes to Colorado Springs
42:10
Speaker 5: to try to build a culture amongst his football team,
42:13
Speaker 5: because college football now is a band of mercenaries every
42:16
Speaker 5: year until you turn them into a team. So at
42:19
Speaker 5: least there is an attempt, at least there's a recognition
42:22
Speaker 5: that culture and playing for each other is important. We're
42:25
Speaker 5: all not just growing up professionals at eighteen or nineteen
42:29
Speaker 5: or twenty years old and can come here and instantly
42:32
Speaker 5: want to play our hearts out for the Buffaloes or
42:37
Speaker 5: for you, for whatever coach prime you got to make
42:39
Speaker 5: that connective tissue.
42:41
Speaker 3: Happen and just quickly like I mean, you just told
42:45
Speaker 3: me you're gonna can I say, can I say this
42:47
Speaker 3: the game you're gonna call the first week? So you're
42:50
Speaker 3: calling Stanford in Miami that first week, Miami at Stanford,
42:53
Speaker 3: Miami at Stanford.
42:53
Speaker 5: Yees?
42:55
Speaker 3: Even for you, like you you call these games every
42:58
Speaker 3: week in college football. But when the year turns over,
43:01
Speaker 3: do you have an idea of what these teams are
43:04
Speaker 3: going to be the next year? Yeah? Like, can you tell,
43:07
Speaker 3: like Miami was really good last year? Is Miami still
43:10
Speaker 3: gonna be that? Or is there a chance that Miami
43:11
Speaker 3: could not be because of all the turnover in college
43:14
Speaker 3: football every season.
43:15
Speaker 5: I think that the NFL ness of college football has
43:18
Speaker 5: really come down to your ability to get the right quarterback.
43:21
Speaker 5: Will Mario Cristobal be able to get good offensive linemen
43:24
Speaker 5: to Miami? Yep? He did it at Oregon. Yeah, so
43:27
Speaker 5: he's former offensive lineman with the Miami Hurricane, So I
43:30
Speaker 5: know he'll be able to do that. I know he'll
43:32
Speaker 5: take care of that. But do they have enough money?
43:35
Speaker 5: Did they have a booster? Is willing to cough up
43:37
Speaker 5: an extra five hundred grand for this kid who needs
43:40
Speaker 5: six and a half million because someone else is offering
43:43
Speaker 5: six million. That's always a variable when you're talking about
43:46
Speaker 5: my preseason feel on a football team. And then how
43:49
Speaker 5: is this quarterback that was somewhere else last year? How's
43:52
Speaker 5: he transferred to this Miami program? As an example, But
43:55
Speaker 5: that's all around college football. All the top teams are
43:58
Speaker 5: always looking to upgrade their quarterback. Every single somebody goes
44:02
Speaker 5: into the draft, Well, we got to get a new one,
44:04
Speaker 5: and chances out we don't have him on a roster.
44:06
Speaker 5: We've got to take him from someplace else. So that's
44:09
Speaker 5: always the variable that's impossible to account for how that
44:11
Speaker 5: will all play out.
44:12
Speaker 3: That always, like I always think to myself, if you're
44:15
Speaker 3: a team likes CU that has you know a quarterback
44:18
Speaker 3: that it's a second year within his same system and roster,
44:23
Speaker 3: it feels like an advantage instead of starting over. I mean,
44:26
Speaker 3: it depends if you know, if you get some top
44:27
Speaker 3: flight quarterback, I guess that's different. But having the same
44:30
Speaker 3: guy year over year, it feels like that should help.
44:32
Speaker 5: I think that it has to. I think Ohio State
44:34
Speaker 5: with saying that quarterback, now they're set for a couple
44:37
Speaker 5: of years, we can focus on other positions. Yeah, and
44:39
Speaker 5: we can just continue to build up around this guy
44:42
Speaker 5: like you do in the NFL. When you draft a
44:45
Speaker 5: young quarterback, you go the Broncos route. Okay, let's give
44:49
Speaker 5: you a great defense so you first of ball, you
44:51
Speaker 5: don't have to go out there and try to score
44:52
Speaker 5: thirty five points to win. And then with the draft
44:54
Speaker 5: over the next couple of years, we'll get some offensive
44:56
Speaker 5: lineman around you, give you some protection, and then we'll
44:58
Speaker 5: give you some toys and then the outside. That's the
45:01
Speaker 5: model that college football is trying to steal from the NFL.
45:04
Speaker 5: If you get a high school quarterback, if you get
45:07
Speaker 5: a transfer quarterback, Hey, I got this guy for one year.
45:10
Speaker 5: How do I make it simple in the beginning of
45:11
Speaker 5: the season so we can go out and play lights out,
45:13
Speaker 5: and then we can start stacking up the playbook on
45:16
Speaker 5: him as he gets more comfortable.
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