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Shapeshifters & Skinwalkers with Abnormal Investigations · The Cryptid Huntress

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  M h h. Well, hey everybody, it's the Cryptic Contress. Thank
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  you guys so much for being here today. I have another fantastic show lined
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  up for us this afternoon, and I have Mike from Abnormal Investigations on his
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  way here. He had a little computer reboot going on there, so we're
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  gon we're gonna get him up in just a minute. And uh yeah,
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  so we're gonna be talking about shape shifters and skinwalkers. Dare I say this
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  afternoon on the show The Glitchen of Matrix. Mike has been doing some absolutely
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  fantastic investigative work on the girl Scout murders in Oklahoma that took place back in
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  nineteen seventy seven June thirteenth, actually, so that's coming up with anniversary,
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  and so what's one of his latest expose As he's done on this, he
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  had an eyewitness come forward to some of the some of the aftermath of what
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  had happened there, and and so we're gonna be talking about that today and
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  it most certainly does have a connection to ritualistic conjuring. I guess you could
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  say of gug Way and uh and or shape shifters of some sort Werewolf type
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  stuff, and so we're gonna be talking about that today. I do see
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  every Saturday and Sunday night at ten pm Eastern. Okay, Well, I
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  see my friend Mike is here, so let me read you a quick little
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  bio here on Mike, and we're going to get this show on the road.
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  And shout out to everybody to send the chat today on my moderators that
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  are here. You guys are amazing and I appreciate all of you. Stephen
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  Michael investigates bigfoot and other abnormal sightings. His popular YouTube channel, Abnormal Investigations
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  examines cases from across the country. Mike has had some scary dog man experiences
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  of his own, and he encourages people to share their stories with him,
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  remaining anonymous. Okay, so please help me. Welcome to the show today,
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  my friend Mike from Abnormal Investigations. Hello, Hey, hey Mike,
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  good to see you this morning or afternoon. Yeah, I finally got the
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  computer to cooperate. Hey, it's it's just a normal day in the office
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  for us with our computer glitches. Okay, that's me too, So it
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  just happens. It's all this high vibe and good energy we got going.
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  I think that's what that is. We're just got energy that is um it's
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  a little wonky sometime. Mine is at least so crazy it is crazy.
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  Well, you you've been using your computer a lot lately, and I have
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  to you've been putting out some amazing, amazing videos, Mike, and really
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  delving into deep into investigations and kind of cold cases, I guess, including
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  the Girls Scout murders of nineteen seventy seven out in Oklahoma. I figured maybe
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  we could talk about that today. Sure, are you cool with that?
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  Well, I'd love for you to kind of tell the audience today, like
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  because we have not talked about the girl Scout murders on my channel with me.
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  You and I yet I would love for you to kind of give a
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  runthrough of kind of like what happened the scenario and uh, and then we're
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  going to get into what could have possibly killed those girls and what your eyewitness
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  told you on a Live Worlds was a video the other day about what she
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  knows about it and what might have been conjured up right, Okay, I
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  got interested in it. I've actually worked on this case for approximately one year.
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  After looking at the case, I noticed looking at the case log and
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  going back through the OSBI, which is equivalent to our FBI in Oklahoma,
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  and the FBI worked on the case along with local law enforcement everything. There
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  was a lot of a lot of statements made and a lot of their paperwork
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  that really caught my interest, a lot of them. It seemed that there
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  could not be just one person that had done this. And also there was
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  a I guess you would call it a acrypted part of the case that had
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  OSBI back then, they really didn't use the word crypted, but they were
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  calling things unhuman, inhuman not human. Some you know, would even talk
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  about a creature in the woods. So I continue falling. I'd have done
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  like three videos and dog really deep spoke to some I have contacts and law
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  enforcement that was helping me along, showing me some things, and then I
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  was contacted by an eye witness. It was twelve thirteen years old at the
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  time. After talking with her, I was it was really clear the end
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  that there was something really wild going on, and well, I was contacted
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  the other day in this case. May possibly there may be some indictments now
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  that will come from this case. So yeah, there's possibly one living person
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  that is still alive that was actually the murderer and there could possibly be an
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  arrest in the case. Wow. Does this stem from your investigation that you
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  did in the eyewitness report? Yes, okay, yeah, I uncovered dat
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  Yeah, testimony that had never been heard and witnesses testimony that had never been
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  heard, and it brought they said, a new light on the case with
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  the new material. So forty seven years later, a little low YouTube person
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  and then we may possibly get some indictments. So good work, Mike.
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  Well, you're you're actually a law enforcement officer. You've you've been in law
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  enforcement um as a career for a while, and I don't think you're not
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  actively in law enforcement, but you have some background in that yeah, I
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  worked in law enforcement for a little while. UM also worked in I worked
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  in security and UM I had security clearance with the United States Coast Guard.
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  UM I was over the largest vault in Oklahoma. We did a special holdovers
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  and stuff for the Middle Terry and a lot of that kind of stuff.
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  I was an investigator for about twelve years, and whenever I got hurt in
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  the line of duty, I then took this up as a hobby because I
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  had lived in it through grannies and stuff like that. So I just started
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  applying my techniques I used in real world to the cryptic world and ended up
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  on this case. And then now I have another family that has contacted me
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  on a cold case that has asked me to look into it over some murders
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  of some children. So yeah, we're looking at that right now. Wow,
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  that's gotta be tough looking into the murders of children, you know,
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  and I know from being asked to look into it psychically, you know,
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  into things like that, it is. It can be very hard to do,
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  but it brings answers to the family, and there is a comfort knowing
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  that you're helping families. Oh yeah, yeah, there's always you know,
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  the real award of seeing somebody, you know, punished for what they've done,
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  especially to children. I take that personally. I have a ten year
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  old and one of the girls in the Girl Scout case she was ten.
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  They were eight, nine and ten, So, um, just babies they
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  were. They were. I actually have a picture here, is it okay
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  if we show a picture of these little girls? Is that okay? Sure?
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  Okay, Now I do have a picture. These These are the three
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  little girls who were murdered in Oklahoma back in it was June thirteenth of nineteen
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  seventy seven. Um, just beautiful, beautiful children there. They didn't deserve
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  this. And oh yeah, okay, well give us give us a little
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  rundown of kind of what happened. And uh. And I know when I
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  was looking through doing some research myself on the Girls Scout murders, I always
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  I've heard you talk about the tent that they were in and how they hid
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  stuff underneath the tent, the people who murdered these girls. And I was
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  saying, well, how they get something under a tent? But now I
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  see that it's actually elevated on a platform. It's like a little hut kind
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  of thing. So now it makes sense now that I'm I was able to
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  go and look at some pictures and stuff of where these little girls were attacked.
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  So well, I found out some things that we really didn't go so
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  you'll probably actually be well, this will be the first time this has really
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  been talked about. Also, we didn't go as deep into this part of
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  it, and it's I think it's just as important. But it was her
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  family remembers that were involved in the murders and so it was really hard for
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  her to come forward. She lived with them, and one of the guys
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  involved was her uncle that actually tried to rape and sacrifice her when she was
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  a child. So she has ritualisty damage done. She has a whole psych
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  team of people. Um. Whenever I would speak with her, she had
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  a life coach, a counselor a psychologist. Uh. They we would go
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  so far and have to stop, go so far, we would have to
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  stop, She'd be sick for days. Um. Under the tent, they
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  had already placed items such as like the duct tape and things like that to
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  secure the girls with and you know those kind of things. And the tenth
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  number eight not only was it the furthest from where the the adults were at
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  and blocked by the showers. It also was the closest tent to the to
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  the fire circle. And I didn't know this until I started investigating. They
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  called those circles and the girl Scouts the Magic Circle, and the Girl Scouts,
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  you know, were owned by the Magic Empire out of Tulsa, Oklahoma.
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  That circle that yeah, that circle right there that you see right there,
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  it was the closest circle to the tent also that the girls were murdered
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  in. Now there's another circle like that right there that is also on the
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  land adjacent to the property to where the little girls were killed. And they
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  were having ceremonies before the girls had ever arrived. The little girls, you
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  know, they were brutally murdered. There was a lot of things, you
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  know that I think they had the murder weapon because if you read in the
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  OSBI report the little girls and without two graphic their bodies resembled the imprints of
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  two weapons that were found there, a crowbar and either a framing hammer or
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  act him they was. They argued over that one, but they were very
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  bad disfigure. But the weird thing about the circle was is her dad.
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  I guess her dad was probably against what they were doing. And he had
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  went up on their land. And this was right before the girl Scouts arrived,
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  like three days and they were having their ritual fire and they were summoning
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  their goog way is what they said. Now the elders up there, you
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  have to understand, they still practice Indian medicine ritual. It was really unsafe
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  for me to even be up there. I only had a few that welcomed
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  me. I was. They called me good medicine. So whenever I went,
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  it was, you know, with an armed security team. It was
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  pretty wild. We had threats against us, but we continued. And when
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  he went to the fire, he said his brother was there and he had
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  started to transform, and it wasn't like what he said, that like what
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  we think in a movie. It's a transformation, he said, but it's
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  not as not as big. It's more of a he said. You look
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  at somebody that gets really mad or they go crazy. How they can change
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  that look? You know? Yeah, but it was not enough of a
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  weird look that he bit her dad on the arm. And he told his
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  daughter when he was there at her he said, whenever I let go of
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  it. It bit me and he called it in it and not his brother.
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  And he ended up going to the hospital and the doctor's like, what
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  kind of animal bait you? And he's like, my brother beat me.
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  And they're like, that's not a human bite. So the teeth had changed
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  too then in his mouth. Yeah, the veterinarian even, and the veterinarian
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  said, yeah, this is not a human bite, but they didn't know
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  what kind of bite it was, and they could not hardly get it to
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  heal. And she said her dad carried that scar for a long time.
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  Now, we may talk about this later, she hasn't. I'm not at
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  liberty to discuss the full what happened. But her dad ended up dying in
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  her arms on this property, Okay. And I'm trying to get her to
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  come out with that, but that's really hard for her right now. But
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  yeah, there was a What they say happens is the natives tell me there's
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  a goog Way. It already exists. It's not nothing that's cantured up.
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  It lives in the woods. But they actually believe it to be a protector
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  of the woods. It's not an enemy to these things, Okay, And
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  a google way to describe a Googway. That's like a mutated sasquatch from what
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  I understand. Yeah, yeah, they called a face eater, the face
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  eater, that's right. Yeah, not pleasant sounding, No, it's not,
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  it's not. It's not a nice one at all. They believe they
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  summoned this spirit. Uh and if they're mad, say it. You know,
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  Joe blow across the street. They summoned this spirit up, and this
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  spirit will go and go into the Googway. Ah, we talked about this
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  before, you and I. Then they control the Googway. You know.
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  The Googway is wow cold by this spirit. So it's like a demonic spirit,
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  black magic kind of stuff's going on here. And uh and and it's
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  de monically possessed, is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, it's like
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  a yeah, demonically possessed Googley. Interesting. Okay, wow, Yeah,
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  that's scary. And she saw it. She she seen the creature. She
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  said she saw it, you know, out of her window. And the
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  night that they burned the bloody clothes in the front yard, which there was
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  the same night the girl Scotts were murdered, they had came back and she
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  said they were soaked in blood, and they burnt the clothes in the front
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  yard and that's whenever it looked in the window at her. So it was
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  with them then, is what she said. Yeah. So did she ever
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  say that she saw her uncle transform into the beast whatever you want to call
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  him, You ever saw him transform? But she saw the Okay, that
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  was just I guess from what she said, slaughtered. Uh. They got
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  a phone call that he'd had a wreck on a dirt road by their house.
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  Her dad loaded her up and they drove down the road and he had
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  wrecked. And she said, being a little girl, they had ran up
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  there hoping to help him, and she said it looked like something had just
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  jumped in there and just shredded him. It was terrific. Yeah, So
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  there was a lot of wild things going on up in those mountains. Well,
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  a lot of cover ups too, and some of these people that you
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  were investigating and looking into, going back into this coal case, Um,
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  it appears that there's a lot of good old boy network kind of up there,
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  and people covering from other people, the police officers covering things up.
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  I mean, it's uh, it's pretty dangerous for you to even be looking
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  into this, Mike, Yeah, I've I've been threatened. Okay, you're
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  not. You're not supposed to turn on your own but truth is the truth.
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  And you know, Uh, the sheriff Weaver, he was standing in
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  her front room when she was thirteen years old, and he laid the items
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  on the table and he said, they will find this on Jeane Leroy Hart.
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  And those were the same things they found in the cave that linked Gene
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  Leroy Heart to the murder. Honestly, I can't say Jeane Leroy Hart was
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  even involved. Okay, we more and more I looked into it, the
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  more and more I could understand how he was found not guilty. Um,
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  you know, we had you know, beyond a reasonable doubt, and I
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  don't believe there was you know, reasonable or beyond a reasonable doubt he was
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  guilty. There there was just a lot of things, I mean, inside
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  of the tent. There was female DNA that didn't match the little girls,
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  so that says there was a female at all. There was different sized footprints,
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  There was different sized fingerprints there the one of the weird things and I
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  thought this was really weird. And the footprint they had found in blood,
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  they said that a police officer had accidentally stepped in the blood and he wasn't
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  being you know, careful, and he had messed up and contaminated the crime
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  scene. But that same footprint and their own writing was also inside the cave,
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  so that placed the police officer at both places. But they never deal
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  liaborate on that. Okay, so the cave. Let's let's back up a
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  little bit and talk about this cave, because that where you were where the
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  young girl, her her dad's brother was seen transforming into another being like a
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  beast. Is that is that where he saw that up around the cave,
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  yes, and also the cave where they found you know, the the oh
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  where he would have done a what they call a smoke conjuring up a spirit
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  um. They found where he had burnt tobacco and ceremonial uh rituals that he
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  was doing. He was doing a lot of that in the cave. And
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  they were trying to say that it was Gene Leroy Hart. But the Bristol
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  guy that you know that was we had looked at, she said he was
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  evil. He was. She called him Charles Manson evil um, you know,
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  and a lot of people in town even said that he went around town
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  bragging about how he had killed these little girls. Oh no, yeah,
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  he was, he was. Yeah. And the police, I mean,
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  it just looks like they were so involved also. Yeah. Yeah, it's
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  a it's a scary community. Uh you know, she's she's in the dark,
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  dark woods where she's at, and where the law enforcement is buddy buddy
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  with everybody. Yeah. Well, and the fact that she had to she
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  didn't have to, but she chose to come out and talk about something that
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  her family did. That's gotta be heartbreaking and horrible just so be holding onto
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  that and and then feeling as though you're, you know, letting the cat
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  out of the bag basically on your family. And uh, it's it's just
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  she's very brave to have done that. So I have a lot of respect
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  for your witness. I think a lot of us have a lot of respect
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  for her for doing that. They even movie one of the buildings from their
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  scout from the girl Scout camp, they moved one of the buildings to her
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  property. And she had seen this murder and her dad was making her going
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  that building every day to get stuff. And there was just a lot of
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  a lot of weird, sick things. They say that the people around there
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  too that you know, when the investigation, the OSBI said that when they
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  were tracking him, they would chase him through the woods, he would go
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  behind a tree and then an owl would fly out or a black dog,
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  and they would I've heard that before from other people. He would be nowhere,
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  and the OSBI would say, we have no idea where this guy went.
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  And then while they were doing their investigation, the black dog would show
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  back up and it would stay, you know, just out to read.
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  And they were like, this is weird. And you know, twenty it
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  was twenty three agents would retire after work. In this case, three of
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  them committed suicide. And oh yeah, do you think that they really did
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  that or do you think that someone else might have done it? It's so
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  speculative. I'm just you don't have to answer that. Don't answer that.
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  I'm sorry, Mike. I have I have birds training to get in my
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  window right now. I'm so confused. I have a bunch of birds literally
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  trying to get into my window. It doesn't make sense. I've never had
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  this happen. There's at least three birds trying to get in my window.
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  Yeah, okay, let's keep going. Sorry, I had to point it
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  out. If you guys are wondering why I'm looking over in my shoulder,
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  this is all okay one time. Yeah, yeah, what good? Um
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  Yeah, it was just I don't know. It was disturbing some of the
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  things that had happened. The little girls I think were a sacrifice. I
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  believe what they were. I think, you know, I can't prove it.
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  It's just an opinion, hypothesis. I guess. I guess we could
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  say hypothesis. I think there was enough evidence to um she uh. I
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  think Carla Wilhite, there's no way that she wasn't involved to too many things.
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  She for her just to go to sleep hearing all that, Um,
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  it's not normal behavior. Um yeah. And I think the noises that she
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  heard, you know, my opinion was the little girl. See two of
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  the girls were killed that they thought immediately in the tent. They were because
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  of the amount of blood that was inside of the tent. The third little
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  girl, for some reason, was led outside of the tent to a tree
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  where she was duct taped to the tree. Oh gosh. Yeah, And
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  I think what she heard was not I think it was that little girl being
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  choked to death and she just went to sleep. But you know, she
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  said the rituals were happening so much that they were doing their sweat lodges before
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  the girls showed up, and she said, there was no way those little
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  girls were going to go home. They had already planned, you know,
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  they were going to die, and the stuff was under their tent already waiting
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  for them right now. And yes, premeditated, Oh yeah, premeditated.
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  Um So, Ben, I know I'm behind on the comments. I'm sorry,
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  but Ben in the chat was hand. So the Gugway was summoned before
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  they were camping, I guess, or or did this summon the Gugway when
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  they when they reached realistically murdered these little girls. They had summoned it it
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  approximately three days before they arrived and had already planned on I guess using it.
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  What they believe is to be a shape shifter or a skin walker.
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  They used both terminologies. Is the younger the victim that you sacrifice, and
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  even the closer the relationship like a family member, gives you stronger power.
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  So these three little girls, being the youngest at the camp and then they
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  were what was weird, were separated and placed in the furthest tentp been the
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  youngest. I just felt that was all set up. And yeah, one
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  of these guys actually went to prison because he murdered his own child and sacrificed
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  it. Yeah, they took one lady that was up there. One of
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  the guys had got her pregnant, that was done these rituals, and they
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  forced her one night. She went time to go to the hospital, you
• 28:07
  know, time to have the baby, except for they call all the brothers
• 28:11
  and they don't go to the hospital. They're driving her up to the circle.
• 28:15
  Oh gosh, they throw her in the circle and make her give birth
• 28:22
  to this little baby inside of the circle. Yeah. Well that's that's the
• 28:29
  black magic aspect that's conjuring. Uh. You know that my show is my
• 28:33
  channel, I do focus on cryptids and uh and something that I've really been
• 28:38
  diving into lately are um creatures that are being summoned ritualistically through demonic um circumstances
• 28:48
  I guess or satanic rituals and dark magic black magic like um and uh.
• 28:55
  Yeah, and it happens, and and that's why I wanted to bring you
• 28:57
  on to talk about this because this was your witness was a firsthand witness to
• 29:03
  this um And and her family having this happen, and not a lot of
• 29:07
  people talk publicly about this, um And So yeah, I'm I'm proud of
• 29:12
  you for looking into this, Mike and uh and I'm honored that you came
• 29:15
  on my show today to talk about it. So thank you because we need
• 29:19
  to let people know. I think that you know, bringing the awareness out
• 29:23
  there that this is happening. And uh, you know, we have a
• 29:26
  lot of missing children, a lot of children that go missing out of our
• 29:30
  national parks, out of the front street, out of the front yards,
• 29:34
  um And and we wonder where these children are going, and this could be
• 29:38
  an outlet for where these kids are being taken for sacrifices. Right, Yeah,
• 29:44
  I'm honored to be here. It's all these pleasure to be on this
• 29:45
  show. Thank you. You know it for some reason, a lot of
• 29:51
  this happens in Oklahoma. We have another place that we're here in Oklahoma.
• 29:55
  It's called Goose Island and it's where a lot of the cult go and they
• 30:03
  take doors like off of a house around Halloween and a law enforcem soon called
• 30:08
  out there. Many times they do sacrifices of animals, it's been some people
• 30:17
  killed and they believe that by killing somebody on this doorway that they can do
• 30:25
  a ritual and they actually open the door, and they believe that they can
• 30:30
  bring you know, evil spirits, and they have a person always that's willing
• 30:34
  to let them use their body as a vessel, and they do a lot
• 30:38
  of crazy stuff out there, like they drink blood, and so yeah,
• 30:44
  it's a yeah, well blood, blood is a powerful manifestation tool. And
• 30:52
  yeah, that's something that comes up in a lot of my research, my
• 30:56
  data that I get when I'm looking into haunted proper and places that like civil
• 31:03
  war battlefields Mike. Uh, you know, a lot of times those that
• 31:07
  land it requires blood. So not only do they have civil tens of thousands
• 31:12
  of men that died there, but there's suicides on some of that land to
• 31:18
  this day, and and covens and cults and things go out there and do
• 31:25
  ritual rituals to conjure stuff up. Um and uh. And it's just that
• 31:30
  it's that land and portals. I don't know what's going on. I don't
• 31:34
  know if it's open portals or it's just like a gateway to hell. I
• 31:37
  don't know what I don't know what it is. I was lost on that
• 31:41
  part because I've never studied it either. So I've consulted three different preachers from
• 31:45
  three different religions, and they pretty much give me the same answer. They
• 31:49
  said, the demons are here, and if you welcome them, they'll come.
• 31:56
  You know. That's pretty much. Well, ain't welcome in my house,
• 32:00
  stay out. I know, I say, get get, you know,
• 32:08
  and blood. One of the things that really caught my attention in the
• 32:13
  case was that night there was a lot of thunderstorms in the area, so
• 32:19
  there was heavy rain. And she said, you know, by the time
• 32:22
  they got to the house, they had to cross a creek, so all
• 32:25
  all the rain, crossing a creek, they get to the front yard and
• 32:31
  she says, they are still covered in blood. Wow, so did they
• 32:37
  put the blood on themselves? You know there's a lot of questions, you
• 32:43
  know, well, you hear about throughout history, uh, you know,
• 32:47
  queens for instance, soaking in the blood of little girls and stuff, and
• 32:55
  to to be be young, to live forever, you know, all that
• 32:59
  kind of stuff, and we hear about stuff like that the underbelly of society.
• 33:05
  Excuse me, I know, my my allergies are bad. Yeah,
• 33:09
  yes, maybe I shouldn't talk about that. I just realized, like my
• 33:12
  throat chaker is closing up a little bit because I might have this chad this
• 33:16
  video flagged for talking about this, So maybe I shouldn't. Maybe that's what
• 33:22
  it is. UM. But yeah, they deleted my first release. I
• 33:29
  had to re upload. Okay, yeah, they deleted it for about an
• 33:35
  hour and they totally took me off every platform and I had to go back
• 33:39
  and re upload. But after I re uploaded, so far the videos of
• 33:43
  stayed up. So oh wow, Okay, I did not know this.
• 33:49
  There's something, Beth stand there's something about being ten years old too and magic
• 33:52
  that's powerful, and so that's sad. So of ten year olds are you
• 33:57
  know there's a certain age group of children that are targeted. UM. From
• 34:00
  what I understand, it's just it's just that pure innocence and that that life
• 34:04
  force, that energy. UM. And you know what I find really interesting,
• 34:07
  Mike, is that I was looking at this UM when I was uploading
• 34:13
  the pictures, I noticed on this sign for the I think it's Camp Scott
• 34:15
  right. Uh, it's oh, let me take this comment down so you
• 34:19
  can see it at the very bottom of this sign. Let's hide this comment
• 34:23
  might take just a second. At the bottom of time, it says magic.
• 34:28
  If you look really closely under the one mile mark, it says magic.
• 34:31
  So magic this way. Okay. UM Now, I'm not saying there's
• 34:37
  anything wrong with magic per se, but um but I'm it may it.
• 34:42
  You know, it makes you wonder. Um. Uh. They have the
• 34:45
  magic circle. You know that circle looked very ritualistic and uh. And they
• 34:50
  did use that for a ritual um when those girls were killed apparently. Um.
• 34:55
  Yeah, And I found out you may know more about this than me.
• 35:00
  I was looking at another place here in Oklahoma, and it's called the
• 35:02
  Parallel Forest, and some people said they'd went in there and they were followed
• 35:08
  by these things that were watching them from around the trees. And they're supposedly
• 35:14
  one of these circles in that forest. And that forest isn't far from Camp
• 35:17
  Scott either, So these circles were kind of showing up, you know.
• 35:22
  And I didn't even know to look for these, and you know, the
• 35:28
  I don't know if we can say the word, I'll try to the Magic
• 35:35
  Empire that owned the Girl Scouts. There is another organization that pretty much funds
• 35:42
  and runs it under a different name and day they ride little go karts at
• 35:49
  carnivals and fairs. Oh okay, I ran into that whenever I was investigating,
• 35:55
  and that's where it took me to. They were the we have small
• 36:00
  town parades. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, that they were
• 36:02
  funding this at the time. Okay, Well, there's also you think about
• 36:07
  like the Magic Kingdom, right, you know where that is, right?
• 36:10
  Right? I mean this goes deep, It goes really deep, and you
• 36:15
  know, it was sad because these little girls. And there's another part you're
• 36:17
  probably gonna really like. I found this just for you because I know that
• 36:22
  you would like this. Okay, the little girl that was leaving. I've
• 36:29
  been in contact with the family a little bit, so I won't use their
• 36:30
  name yet. But one of the little girls that was leaving, she told
• 36:35
  her mom, my sister won't come back. They're all gonna die. Oh
• 36:42
  yeah. And it's actually it's it's in one of the reports. But the
• 36:46
  little girl, she knew her sister was gonna die, and she was telling
• 36:50
  her mom the whole time, they're gonna die. And you know, and
• 36:54
  these little girls, what you know, I didn't even know this till really
• 36:57
  got into it. They were so happy to go because they had sold so
• 37:01
  many cookies and it worked so hard to be able to do this. And
• 37:07
  you know, the parents didn't even know. They thought this was going to
• 37:10
  be a nice camp. And Miss Farmer showed up and she said, when
• 37:16
  I looked at where my little girl slept, she said, there's no way
• 37:21
  I would have slept there. She said, this place is scary, really,
• 37:25
  oh dark energy there all the trees they hadn't the trees were just like
• 37:31
  hanging over the tents, and the tents were like shoved into these dark areas.
• 37:36
  And there's no lighting. They had no security lighting. The roles were
• 37:40
  in the middle of the woods in a thunderstorm, crouched in these tents,
• 37:46
  hiding while the killer was done their thing that night. I mean, it
• 37:52
  was a prime you know, I don't know, I don't know what to
• 37:57
  call it. It's gonna say battleground. It's not the kids weren't fighting.
• 38:00
  Uh, it's a killing field basically. I mean, that's horrible, um,
• 38:06
  you know, and that's that's why I mean, I would never send
• 38:09
  my child to a camp like that ever. I mean, you know,
• 38:12
  I was actually a Brownie. I'm not gonna lie. I never I never
• 38:15
  made it to Girl Scouts because I didn't like it just personally. Um,
• 38:20
  yeah, there's I did go camping with the Brownies though when I was a
• 38:23
  little kid, and I'll never forget it. I'll never forget it. It
• 38:27
  rained, thank god, it rained. So we were it was at somebody's
• 38:30
  house and uh, and they put us in tense underneath their car port.
• 38:35
  So we were close to the house and it was fine, and there were
• 38:37
  only I don't remember how many there were of us, but that was a
• 38:39
  pretty scary night. It was really scary. I can't imagine being next to
• 38:44
  a house and being that young. Yeah, this is a very secluded area.
• 38:49
  Yeah, I mean I was scared of being next to a house.
• 38:52
  Okay, And uh, I wouldn't stay out there. Honestly. I'm a
• 38:58
  big foot researcher and I would be his id to stay out there. I
• 39:00
  don't know, I might not. I don't know. I got offered by
• 39:05
  the landowner to be able to go into the facility, and you did,
• 39:08
  have you been now? I talked it over with my team and we don't
• 39:14
  feel that there's anything really to gain by going there. It's a dark place.
• 39:20
  It's hard for the family to keep seeing this area where they're little girls,
• 39:23
  you know, were murdered. What did they go through? Were they
• 39:27
  afraid? And I felt like enough people has already if you want to see
• 39:30
  it, there's YouTube videos after where people have trespassed and have filmed it.
• 39:36
  So I just didn't feel like I could bring any light to it by doing
• 39:38
  that. I felt like I would, you know, I would bring more
• 39:42
  pain, and I didn't want to bring pain. I wanted to bring answers.
• 39:45
  So we decided, you know, just not to do that. Yeah,
• 39:51
  well, I'm proud of you for doing that, because this is not
• 39:53
  easy. And yeah, I mean I have a kid too. You and
• 39:58
  I both have children, you know, and uh my son he's about to
• 40:01
  be nine this week, so he's around that age, and uh, I
• 40:09
  can't. I have to disassociate myself from this a little bit or a lot
• 40:15
  because I can't if I, um, it's very upsetting, and that's what
• 40:20
  I thought a lot of it's very upsetting. My little boy, he's you
• 40:24
  know, he's the age of the oldest girl. Yeah, you know,
• 40:29
  it was they were they were they were alone. I mean, they were
• 40:32
  alone. They were yelling for help as if nobody came. Where were the
• 40:38
  Where were all the adults at mike? They were all the other end of
• 40:43
  the other end of the camp, all of them together. Bro. Probably
• 40:47
  I would say partying. Uh. I know that there was taylan all with
• 40:52
  codeine been passed around that night, So okay, oh well codeine, I'll
• 40:59
  do it, Okay, that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, I
• 41:04
  had like eight eighteen year olds watching eight nineteen year olds and it was party
• 41:08
  time, you know, no adults and right, well, um, well
• 41:15
  that's a very tragic, very tragic. Um. Okay. So let's go
• 41:20
  back to the woman who gave you the testimony her father was bitten by his
• 41:27
  brother as he was shape shifted. Okay, was this like a group activity?
• 41:31
  Like did they go in there as a group as it was it a
• 41:34
  family? Was it a covin, a coven or covid? Uh? How
• 41:38
  big was this party of people that was in there watching him transform? And
• 41:42
  was he the only one that had transformed? He was the only one that
• 41:45
  transformed? Uh? There was family and others. Um, it was a
• 41:55
  large group of this town. I mean it was almost the town was involved.
• 42:00
  It's like one of those things that everybody knew what was going on,
• 42:04
  and you know, I would say that the sheriff was probably involved. She
• 42:08
  said, the sheriff was at their house, you know, and her dad,
• 42:12
  you know, and the sheriff and they're burning you know, clothes together,
• 42:15
  and they're doing these sweats. She said. They would do a lot
• 42:19
  of sweats. What a sweat Is that a sweat lodge kind of thing?
• 42:23
  Yeah, okay, Yeah. They go in and you know, they have
• 42:27
  their hot rocks, and they do their ceremonies and they smoked their payote,
• 42:30
  and then they come out and then sometimes they'll go right into the cold creek
• 42:35
  or whatever, you know, a cleansing, and then they would do their
• 42:38
  rituals. They would have their fires and their black magic. Now there was
• 42:43
  two shamans that was coming that were black magic. One was from a town
• 42:47
  that was nearby, and then the other one was the one that Geane leroy
• 42:52
  Hart was actually staying with. And they were teaching people, you know,
• 42:57
  black magic and how to tran form, how to summon this googway, how
• 43:01
  to control the googway, and just a lot of well, one of the
• 43:08
  guys and it can't be proven, but they found little girl panties and trinkets
• 43:15
  and stuff in his house, and they believe he may be linked to more
• 43:20
  murders other than these. Now, so it opened up a lot of things
• 43:23
  that this came out. They think that one of them had maybe done a
• 43:30
  lot more murders than what just the girl scouts. And hopefully this guy will
• 43:37
  be indicted, is the hope. I hope he is. Yeah. Yeah,
• 43:42
  Now you also said that throughout the when this case was kind of blown
• 43:46
  open and it was in the in the public or there was someone being tried
• 43:51
  for the murders, it was very divided in this town. And it was
• 43:55
  the Native American families versus like the Caucasian people there, right, it was
• 44:02
  a town divided. Yeah, they felt like that whenever the OSBI and the
• 44:07
  police and all came in, they felt like that they were trying to pin
• 44:12
  this on you know, Genie Royal Heart. He was an Indian and he
• 44:15
  was a track star, a football star in school. Everybody knew him.
• 44:19
  He was an athlete. And they felt like, Okay, these you know,
• 44:22
  and white people are not accepted up there. We're not accepted. And
• 44:27
  I'm Cherokee, and they said that I wasn't enough Cherokee to matter. So
• 44:31
  I mean, if you're not the full blood, they don't want you there.
• 44:35
  And they felt like they were trying to pin it on him. And
• 44:38
  if you go back and look, it kind of sounds that way because he
• 44:44
  was thirty five miles away from the town. They were trying to say that
• 44:49
  he was traveling, you know, through the woods, thirty five miles back
• 44:52
  and forth every night. It just it didn't make sense. None of the
• 44:57
  fingerprints were his, the footprints weren't his. Is they had seamen wasn't his.
• 45:04
  So there was a lot of things that they thought, you know,
• 45:07
  hey, they're they're in here trying to find you know, because gene Leroy
• 45:10
  Heart supposedly it had an affair with the sheriff's wife and the sheriff was mad
• 45:15
  at him. And you know, it was just like everybody everybody got was
• 45:20
  related or knows each other and or having an affair with each other or something.
• 45:25
  That's rough. It's some weird stuff that's rough. I mean, the
• 45:30
  subject matter is so sensitive. I'd say, I mean, I can't believe
• 45:34
  this is not all over you know, all these true crime shows and things
• 45:37
  like that. But I know it's just tough doing um, you know,
• 45:39
  talking about the murders of three innocent little girls, you know. Um,
• 45:45
  yeah, we have a good question in the chat um. What let's see,
• 45:49
  let me see if I can find it. See Duke is asking how
• 45:52
  many other girl scouts were at the camp? I mean, were there a
• 45:53
  bunch of other little girls there that night? I believe the count was one
• 45:58
  hundred and twelve, one hundred and twelve grief now, one hundred and twelve
• 46:04
  girls. And I believe there was forty eight staff and one ranger. They
• 46:08
  had a ranger. I'm blown away. I didn't realize there were that many
• 46:14
  kids there and and that much staff for for this, for this to happen.
• 46:19
  And so there were three girls per tent. I'm assuming there was supposed
• 46:23
  to be four, but for some reason that night there was only three placed
• 46:29
  in the tent where they were murdered. And there was a note found a
• 46:35
  week prior to them showing up that said, we're on a mission to kill
• 46:37
  three little girls. And three little girls were placed in a tent the furthest
• 46:43
  away and the youngest little girls and three or murdle. That's it just sounds
• 46:50
  there's an insider going there, like an inside job kind of thing. That
• 46:53
  is what it sounds like had to be. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't
• 46:58
  take a genius to figure this out. Okay. I mean that's or to
• 47:01
  you know, Sherlock Homes or whatever like. That's that's when you when you
• 47:06
  know the underlying you know, truth behind a lot of this and the ritualistic
• 47:10
  stuff and the black magic that was going on, the threats, it starts
• 47:16
  to make sense. And this is a large camp. I mean, they
• 47:21
  had an in ground pool out there, they had big you know, big
• 47:25
  places where they would eat, cafeterias. Um. You can google it online
• 47:30
  and there's people that's went in and filmed a lot of it, and it
• 47:34
  kind of it gives you an idea of how like it's a really large facility,
• 47:37
  but it's spread out through the woods. It's a it's it's a it's
• 47:43
  aould be a scary place at night. I guarantee you it was, Yet
• 47:46
  you wouldn't want to be no, no, can I gotta say Candy.
• 47:51
  Candy has a comment in the chat. She said she got kicked out of
• 47:52
  Brownies because she thought it was ridiculous to set a table. She let the
• 47:55
  woman know well, guess what, candy. I quit brownies um for a
• 48:00
  couple of reasons, but one of them was I thought I was just bored
• 48:02
  of making bird feeders out of peanut butter and pine cones. I was like,
• 48:09
  is this all we're gonna do? Okay? I thought we were going
• 48:12
  camping and looking for Bigfoot. Obviously I knew back then it was way more
• 48:15
  to going camping and be in nature to make them, you know, bird
• 48:20
  feeders out of peanut butter. So I know that's a little commercial break there,
• 48:25
  everybody, Sorry, but okay, so let's get back to the gug
• 48:30
  Way. Mike. Okay, So the gug Way. Had there been any
• 48:34
  other murders in this town and things? I know that one of the gentlemen
• 48:37
  was torn to shreds, one of the uncle I guess that passed away.
• 48:42
  Were there any other suspected attacks on people with this gug Way or the shape
• 48:46
  shifting men from that we're in this town running, were they running rampant or
• 48:52
  or what? Well, now that there wasn't any more reported, but they
• 48:55
  do say that if you go down there, you can still hear it.
• 49:00
  Down in the Girl Scouts property, They say you can hear the vocalization of
• 49:04
  it, and the elders say that it protects the land. The black dog
• 49:10
  is supposedly seeing down there from time to time, still running on the property.
• 49:16
  And then you know, they believe that that is gene Le roy Hart,
• 49:21
  you know, running free. Now. You know, whenever they arrested
• 49:24
  gene Le roy Hart, the guys that arrested him, he tapped him on
• 49:30
  the bottom of the foot and one of the agents said, why did you
• 49:32
  tap the bottom of his foot? And he said, well, I took
• 49:36
  the magic, and you know he was and whenever he went to prison,
• 49:43
  you know, he died of a heart attack. It wasn't long after he
• 49:45
  went to prison. And one person said, well, if he was a
• 49:49
  shape shifter, why didn't he just turn into that bird and fly away from
• 49:52
  the prison. And that guy said, don't you remember I took his magic?
• 49:57
  He no longer had it. Oh yeah, interesting, okay, so
• 50:04
  he so he took his magic just by touching him. You know, energy
• 50:07
  transfer is a real thing, Mike. It's a real thing. And I've
• 50:10
  gotten a little more selective as to who I let touch me these days.
• 50:15
  Yeah, four things like that. I'm not saying I got magic, but
• 50:20
  I'm saying, I don't. I don't know what people. You know,
• 50:22
  people, there are a lot of people with very bad intentions in this world.
• 50:27
  And uh and and this magic stuff is real, okay, And it
• 50:30
  doesn't matter if you believe it or not. There are other people that do
• 50:34
  believe it well dedicated to it. The movie Fallen, you know which movie
• 50:42
  was at. It's Paul Fallen. It's got Oh, that's right, Washington
• 50:46
  and all you know where they would touch each other and transfer the demon.
• 50:51
  I mean, I've seen you and I have discussed this before, and I
• 50:54
  think I mentioned that I have seen an entity go and I didn't physically see
• 51:00
  with my eyes, like jumped from body to body, but I knew that.
• 51:02
  I knew that energy, I knew that spirit and it was going from
• 51:06
  person to person that I knew at one point in my life, I've seen
• 51:10
  it. Um, I I was, you know, it scared me to
• 51:15
  death. I've seen a demon and it scared me bad. I was young
• 51:21
  and it you know it. It was in my aunt's house and I saw
• 51:27
  it. My mom and my aunt all of this at the same time,
• 51:29
  and I was being stupid. I guess I don't. I kind of dared
• 51:36
  it because I didn't believe in that step at the time. And I was
• 51:37
  sitting in the front room and she had called me, and it was just
• 51:39
  me and my aunt at the time, and you could see the shadow come
• 51:43
  out and go back, and come out and go back. And I was
• 51:45
  making every excuse in the book because like I, it's a tree limb outside,
• 51:49
  it's the phone book moving with the fan, you know. And by
• 51:52
  the time we'd moved everything, it was still didn't so been a smart elak.
• 51:54
  I walk over and I'm like, well, here, if you want
• 51:58
  to go across the hallway, offen the door for you. And I opened
• 52:01
  the door and a head down to the shoulders went across the hallway and I
• 52:08
  was like, God, I'm not gonna lie. I left. I was
• 52:10
  like, I didn't know how to process it. Was it a shadow or
• 52:16
  was it like a person? It was the face, it was a you
• 52:20
  could tell that it was an older man, you know, back how people
• 52:23
  used to cut their hair. How they would you know, comb it over
• 52:25
  and you could see a lot of detail and it was only down to maybe
• 52:30
  the top of the shoulders, that's all you could see. And it went
• 52:34
  across the hallway. Oh my gosh, it was. Oh yeah, I
• 52:38
  left. That's crazy. That's not supposed to be there, you know.
• 52:43
  No, Oh my god, my friend Meemi's in the chat. Hey Memi,
• 52:45
  Hey, good to see you here. Yeah, that that is really
• 52:50
  creepy. I've seen a lot of um, weird stuff myself, Mike,
• 52:53
  a lot of ghosts. I've seen real live ghosts. I've seen cryptids,
• 53:00
  I've seen aliens, you name it. I've seen some weird stuff. But
• 53:04
  it's never fun seeing that stuff in your house. Okay, oh no,
• 53:07
  the house. That's like the worst place to ever see it, actually,
• 53:10
  especially if you have kids. Oh it freaked me out. You know.
• 53:14
  Whenever I was little, my first encounter was something like that. I believed
• 53:20
  in the tooth fairy and we lived in this house and I kept telling my
• 53:22
  mom and dad. I was like, my bedrooms haunted, My bedrooms haunted.
• 53:25
  And my dad was like, no, go to bed, go to
• 53:28
  bed, go to bed. You know, they would make me go to
• 53:30
  bed and I lost my tooth. And this lady in a red like I
• 53:37
  guess it would be like a gown or something that a woman would wear the
• 53:38
  bed. She walked into my room and of course I assumed it was the
• 53:42
  tooth fairy because I believed in the tooth fairy at the time. And she
• 53:45
  lifted up my head and she kind of moved and she went into my closet
• 53:49
  and I told my mom about it, and they were like, no,
• 53:51
  there's nobody in there. Well, my tooth was still there and no money.
• 53:54
  Well later on, yeah, later on I'm into adulthood and being my
• 53:59
  dad were houses. My dad used to build houses, and we ran into
• 54:02
  this guy and he was telling us he had lived in that house after we
• 54:06
  did. And he's like, my daughter Amy will not sleep in that first
• 54:09
  bedroom because she says there's a lady in there that comes out and tucks her
• 54:13
  in. I was like, I told you that there was something in there.
• 54:20
  I told you. It's like I told you, dad, And that's
• 54:22
  why do you get any money for that too? That's the question. No.
• 54:27
  I tell people, listen to your kids. If they say they're seeing
• 54:30
  something, don't say they're not and say you know, I was just your
• 54:34
  imagination or whatever, because they may really be experiencing something in there. Yeah.
• 54:42
  Absolutely. I mean when I was a kid, I used to sleep
• 54:45
  on bunk beds with my sister and I had the top bunk and I would
• 54:49
  put stuffed animals along the There was like an opening between the mattress and the
• 54:52
  railing, and I would put stuffed animals and pillows along because I was afraid
• 54:58
  something was gonna grab me. And you know what, I wouldn't put it
• 55:00
  past my mom and dad to have grabbed my feet. Okay, you sent
• 55:04
  me a video somebody grabbed my feet in front of a bed. It reminded
• 55:07
  me of when I was a kid. I wouldn't put it past anybody.
• 55:10
  And I think I did that to my sister and brother. I'm sure I
• 55:13
  grabbed them through the rail at some point. Um, but that's scary stuff.
• 55:17
  And uh. And you know, as a kid, we shouldn't really
• 55:21
  play with our kids like that. It's fine for a good laugh, but
• 55:25
  it's my little boy. He wants. He wants to have these things so
• 55:30
  bad. Every time I go out, he's like, Dad, let me
• 55:31
  go, Dad, let me go. I want to see one. I
• 55:34
  want to see one. Yeah, they probably wouldn't. Oh yeah right,
• 55:39
  I know. Yeah, my son, I don't know. I don't take
• 55:45
  my son big footing. I've taken him once, but not at night.
• 55:49
  Like he doesn't get out there where we do research and stuff. We don't.
• 55:52
  We's too young, it's too dangerous. Now we have a question from
• 55:55
  Auntie Vintam. Did the girls here noises? So I'm assuming that's maybe the
• 56:01
  other little girls that that survived. Uh did they report hearing anything? Not?
• 56:07
  No, not that I could find. The only reports that, yeah,
• 56:09
  that I could find was just uh, Carla will Height had heard the
• 56:15
  guttural noises. Uh. Some other staff members said they had heard a little
• 56:19
  girl crying, yelling for her mommy. Um, okay, another little girl
• 56:24
  was screaming, and but none of that was ever checked on. That's really
• 56:31
  sad. Yeah, yeah, um yeah. I think a lot of us,
• 56:37
  not not myself. I did go camping when I was Brownie. Okay
• 56:40
  I did do that, But a lot of us have fun a lot of
• 56:44
  buy fond memories of being out camping. But it was very scary and uh,
• 56:49
  you know for a lot of people. For parents, I think it
• 56:52
  would be like a rite of passage like let's I'm gonna let my son go
• 56:54
  off with the boy scouts or I'm gonna let my daughter go off with the
• 56:57
  girl scout and uh and and do of an overnight camp. How harmless is
• 57:01
  that? You know, It's like there's parents there. Um, I don't
• 57:06
  know. I mean I went to church camp when I was a kid.
• 57:07
  Okay, I used to go to church camp with my cousins, and um,
• 57:10
  I remember crying every night. And my cousin, well, my older
• 57:15
  cousins, Rebecca, she was a camp counselor, and I remember she was
• 57:20
  m I think she was having to call my mom and my grandmother to let
• 57:23
  them know that I was crying. I didn't want to be there. Um,
• 57:27
  I just did when I was two. I was I was the youngest
• 57:29
  out of all my cousins. So uh but yeah, there was just something
• 57:31
  about it. I think that, um, having my cousins there was a
• 57:37
  little safer for me. But uh but yeah, dude, I just remember
• 57:39
  that I had forgotten about that. I must have blocked that out of my
• 57:43
  memory. Um. But uh but yeah, it could be pretty traumatizing,
• 57:46
  be very traumatizing. Um. So what is the update today, Mike,
• 57:51
  Um, So you said that there's um the investigation has kind of been opened
• 57:54
  again. Somebody might be getting charged. Now give me, give me like
• 57:59
  the latest news. One person we believe is still alive that was involved actually
• 58:06
  directly with the murders. H. We're still looking to try to see,
• 58:10
  if you know, what we can do with him. As far as everything
• 58:15
  else, the family has asked that the case remain open in case something else
• 58:20
  knew was to come up that it could still be added to the case,
• 58:22
  so they they're leaving it open. Um. What's weird is none of the
• 58:29
  family members say that they've asked for it to be remained open. So I
• 58:31
  don't know if that's just something they've decided to do to stop, you know,
• 58:34
  people from filing for you is U there's a lot of stuff that it
• 58:39
  would probably make a lot of people look bad. So I don't expect the
• 58:44
  case. I don't think it'll ever be closed. Um. I think that
• 58:47
  it will always be an open case. There's still rituals being performed there to
• 58:53
  this day. Um, watch your kids. This stuff is real. It's
• 59:00
  still happening. It's on a different level. It's not like it used to
• 59:04
  be. It's i would say, more advanced at the way they're doing it.
• 59:08
  H. You know, they're done a lot of things out there that's
• 59:13
  just as bad to the children. And like what Jessica said, they're they're
• 59:16
  going to missing every day and all it takes is for you just to turn
• 59:20
  your back and they can be gone. And these people they have plans and
• 59:25
  ways of doing this. They're good at what they do. Yeah, and
• 59:31
  they obviously have cave systems that they're working out of. I mean, if
• 59:36
  they're doing these rituals and caves, it's very corrupted. Okay. We we
• 59:40
  live in a very scary time right now. This has been going on since
• 59:45
  the beginning of time, taking children, doing things with them. So this
• 59:51
  is this is nothing new. It's just being exposed. I know I was
• 59:55
  oblivious to it for a long time. And as there's been a change in
• 1:00:00
  the wind, I think a lot of us are a lot of things are
• 1:00:02
  being exposed now and people are coming forward now, just like your your guests
• 1:00:09
  that you had on the eyewitness. So the other you know, the other
• 1:00:15
  case I'm looking at now, it's two little girls and it happened here in
• 1:00:22
  Oklahoma again and their bodies haven't been found. So, I mean there's a
• 1:00:29
  lot of dark places around the world still that people aren't traveling. I mean
• 1:00:35
  these areas are you know, your your bigger police officers have you know,
• 1:00:39
  they have a better resources. There's still little towns with little police agencies that
• 1:00:47
  don't have the resources and do not go to these places. You can disappear
• 1:00:52
  in these places and never be found. I mean there's old oil wells,
• 1:00:55
  there's old caves. I mean there's been bud he stuck down old oil wells
• 1:01:00
  and capped off, you know, with concrete, and they've never been found.
• 1:01:06
  So I mean, just watch your kids, because what they'll go through
• 1:01:12
  if they're caught, will be terrible. I lost your audio. Oh sorry,
• 1:01:25
  I'm just sitting here talking. I'm you gotta. I'm trying to.
• 1:01:29
  I'm trying. This new thing is called lip singing, like you're sinking.
• 1:01:34
  I'm sorry. Actually, I have somebody who decided when the neighbors just decided
• 1:01:37
  to either cut a tree down with a chainsaw or blow their leaves. I'm
• 1:01:42
  not sure. We don't even have leaves right now, so God knows what's
• 1:01:45
  going on out there. I'd have had birds try to get in my window
• 1:01:49
  today, and I have someone blowing there and it sounds like they're right under
• 1:01:52
  my window, which is weird. Um camera on everything that's happy. Everybody.
• 1:02:00
  I had to hit, I had to hit that mute button and then
• 1:02:01
  I forgot so thank you. Yeah, it's um, this is this has
• 1:02:07
  been UM, this has been fantastic being able to talk about this. It's
• 1:02:09
  been very sad, okay, very sad and horrible. Um. But just
• 1:02:15
  to cover the topic of cryptids of shape shifters, skin I know we're not
• 1:02:22
  supped to say that word, but skin walkers, I'm gonna say it.
• 1:02:25
  Um, stuff like this. Now, now there's a different We're not calling
• 1:02:30
  this a skin walker, right, We're calling this more of a shape shifter.
• 1:02:34
  Uh. That first of all attacked the the the uncle, right,
• 1:02:38
  that was more of a shape shifter type thing. It wasn't a skin walker.
• 1:02:42
  Or is there a difference? They were calling the same thing. When
• 1:02:45
  I would say, okay, it's just one would say one word, the
• 1:02:49
  other one would say the other. But as far as like the transformation and
• 1:02:52
  what would happen, was was the same thing. But there had to be
• 1:02:57
  a physical change in order for the bite to not be human. I mean
• 1:03:00
  there has to be some kind of a manipulation or something happened. Yeah,
• 1:03:08
  okay, Well, it's just interesting because, like I said, not a
• 1:03:12
  lot of people to talk about this publicly and uh, and everybody is super
• 1:03:16
  interested in the skin Walker phenomenon, especially since the whole skin Walker Ranch stuff
• 1:03:22
  came out. And yeah, and my team research is an area that we
• 1:03:27
  call skin Walker Ranch of the South and just a lot of high strangeness going
• 1:03:31
  on out there. And but we have not dealt with shape shifters yet.
• 1:03:36
  Okay, that's not something that has come across my path physically yet. Well,
• 1:03:39
  and they even tell you whenever I was there, they're like because one
• 1:03:44
  of the team members is a female, and they're like, she can't be
• 1:03:49
  here and we're like, what's what's wrong with And they're like, the women
• 1:03:53
  are in a lot more danger than the men, you know, the goog
• 1:03:58
  way, and they talked about it searches for women and women aren't safe and
• 1:04:04
  you know, it's dark stuff. It's very dark. Wow. Okay,
• 1:04:11
  So so me being bait out in the field's probably not a good idea anymore,
• 1:04:15
  huh for bigot. Very dangerous to be a woman to be out because
• 1:04:20
  you're targeting. And you know, even the elders have told me even when
• 1:04:24
  I was a kid, they were like, if you're going spook cutting,
• 1:04:26
  then you want to get scared. You gotta have some girls with you and
• 1:04:28
  nothing's going to happen. Wow. Okay, well that's something to take into
• 1:04:33
  consideration. I'm not going to quit being bait. Okay, I'm not going
• 1:04:36
  to I'm still going out there. Um. Well, you know, we
• 1:04:42
  recently had a string. My mother kept reiterating this to me the other day.
• 1:04:45
  She was saying, Um, there were like thirty kids or something,
• 1:04:49
  fifteen to thirty kids that went missing out of somewhere was it, Ohio.
• 1:04:55
  I think it's all over the news right now. I don't watch the news,
• 1:04:58
  so please forgive me. But a lot of children and one month went
• 1:05:01
  missing. Um. And you know, I think I think kids have gone
• 1:05:05
  missing quite often for quite some time. But this was this was all over
• 1:05:10
  the news recently. So makes you wonder, makes you wonder where all these
• 1:05:14
  kids went. They're pretty much I think harvested. Okay, Okay. And
• 1:05:20
  I've also opened myself up to uh, you know, I've been doing conferences
• 1:05:26
  the past month and and I've met a lot of new people that are in
• 1:05:30
  secret space program kind of stuff and things like that. And uh, and
• 1:05:33
  I've heard some stories. I've heard some stories about underground bases and um and
• 1:05:40
  children being down there and chimeras and cryptids and all that kind of stuff,
• 1:05:44
  and it's it's very heartbreaking, UM to hear this. So we're not going
• 1:05:48
  to get into detail about that. But but I think I think this is
• 1:05:53
  a great place to um to end this today because I think we covered it
• 1:05:57
  all for the most part. Mike. I want to thank you so much
• 1:06:00
  for being here. This has been fantastic. Yeah, I enjoy it every
• 1:06:06
  time. Oh, well, thank you all. I hope you're going to
• 1:06:09
  come back. I've got goose bumps down my legs right now. I'm like,
• 1:06:11
  oh, this is a great show. Um. Where where can people
• 1:06:14
  find you? Mike? Just abnormal investigations. That's that's usually the only thing
• 1:06:18
  I do. Just I just run that my little okay space, I hide
• 1:06:25
  it. There's sure space. I hide it. Well, how can people
• 1:06:28
  support you? Do you have you have subscriptions and um is there? Do
• 1:06:31
  you have a Patreon? How can people support because you're doing fantastic work.
• 1:06:36
  I just do memberships and um, I have a PayPal. That's the only
• 1:06:40
  thing I've ever used. And okay, of course we have. Since I've
• 1:06:44
  done the investigation, I've gained a thousand subscribers in a week, so a
• 1:06:49
  lot of people are giving me a lot more information on this. See I
• 1:06:55
  didn't cover this subject until this happened. And a lot of my new subscribers
• 1:06:58
  now are saying, hey, like like what you're saying. This is happening
• 1:07:01
  to kids everywhere? You know? It is? It is. It's sad,
• 1:07:09
  it is. And uh, actually, from what the one of the
• 1:07:12
  guys from one of the conferences I was speaking at, he said that there
• 1:07:15
  are people that are underground that are in breeding programs just to have children to
• 1:07:21
  harvest and stuff. Yeah, he drives and he recorded a facility for me
• 1:07:28
  and he drives his semi into a cave and you would be surprised how large
• 1:07:33
  these caves are, just in the mountains. And he makes deliveries there you're
• 1:07:39
  talking cities under mountains and he recorded and he's like, check this out,
• 1:07:45
  and I'll talk the semi looks little inside of here. Oh yeah, those
• 1:07:51
  inside those caves. Um, there are we have a whole underground. We
• 1:07:57
  have underground cities all over the United States, all over the world. Yeah,
• 1:08:00
  big cities, big facilities. Um. I think it would be shocking
• 1:08:05
  for the normal everyday person to find out all a lot of the stuff.
• 1:08:10
  But but it happened. So we're just scratching the surface. We're here on
• 1:08:15
  the surface and we barely know what's going on around us. So uh,
• 1:08:17
  like you always say, keep your head on a swivel and don't be somebody's
• 1:08:20
  dinner, right or is that how you say it? Yeah, sure dinner,
• 1:08:27
  y'all. Well, the more you know, the more dangerous you are
• 1:08:30
  to them. That's right, That's right. And that's why we're doing the
• 1:08:34
  show today. And um, and and that's why I wanted to have you
• 1:08:39
  on so we could just discuss this. Uh. It is difficult and hard
• 1:08:43
  to talk about these things. And uh and so thank you, thank you
• 1:08:46
  so much, Mike, and everybody, please please go subscribe to Abnormal Investigations
• 1:08:51
  on YouTube and uh and support Mike. Y'all get a subscription. It's it's
• 1:08:56
  worth it, Okay. And yeah, I'm gonna have my you come back
• 1:09:00
  on with me sometime, you guys, please tune in tomorrow night. I'm
• 1:09:03
  gonna be eight pm Eastern. I've got a remote viewing show. I'll be
• 1:09:08
  announcing that. Target kind of already announced it, but I'll announce it later
• 1:09:12
  today and and I want to thank everybody for being here today. I'm sorry
• 1:09:15
  I didn't get to all the comments. There's a lot of people in here
• 1:09:19
  today, so thank you guys so much. And yeah, I will see
• 1:09:23
  y'all tomorrow night. And then also join me this weekend on space Stout Radio.
• 1:09:27
  I have Jeremiah Fountain and Nick Valens coming on together Saturday night. We're
• 1:09:30
  gonna have a blast. It's gonna be an awesome show. So y'all come
• 1:09:34
  join me, all right, Mike, Well, thanks, I hope you
• 1:09:36
  have a wonderful day, and thank you for all you do. It is
• 1:09:40
  a pleasure doing a show with you today. I'll see you later, all
• 1:09:44
  right, good bye, y'all. Hi he May