Latest / Going The Distance: The Rocky Series Podcast / Rocky IV (Episode 14) - Rocky IV Ending Breakdown: Paulie Kiss, Drago Beatdown & Iconic Speech
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- 0:00I'm sorry. 00:29 --> 00:59 I'm sorry. 00:59 --> 01:02 without a studio audience. 01:02 --> 01:06 The beauty is, is you're gonna see what we see on the screen. 01:06 --> 01:08 So you're gonna be able to see Rocky IV, 01:08 --> 01:10 as we talk about Rocky IV. 01:10 --> 01:11 - That's the beauty part. 01:11 --> 01:12 - That's the good part, not us. 01:12 --> 01:14 - No. - No. 01:14 --> 01:16 Okay, so Ruben, what we're gonna do is we're gonna 01:16 --> 01:19 watch Rocky IV, and I think today our goal is to finish 01:19 --> 01:21 Rocky IV, it's really just the final fight. 01:21 --> 01:23 - And let's see if we can go the distance. 01:23 --> 01:24 - See if we can go the distance. 01:24 --> 01:27 There's really half an hour left of this movie? 01:27 --> 01:29 All right, well maybe we won't finish Rocky IV. 01:29 --> 01:30 I think we will. 01:30 --> 01:31 All right, here we go. 01:31 --> 01:34 - Hello everybody and Merry Christmas 01:34 --> 01:36 from a very unusual place. 01:36 --> 01:38 We're in Moscow in the Soviet Union. 01:38 --> 01:40 I'm Barry Tompkins along with Al Bandura. 01:40 --> 01:41 - Do you wanna go to Moscow? 01:41 --> 01:45 - To be the most watched event in boxing history. 01:45 --> 01:47 - Well, I wouldn't mind going to Moscow, 01:47 --> 01:48 but there's other places I'd like to visit 01:48 --> 01:50 before I end up going there. 01:50 --> 01:51 - Uh huh. 01:51 --> 01:53 - Do you think there's like a Drago impersonator there, 01:53 --> 01:54 like Mike Kunda? 01:54 --> 01:54 - Oh yeah. 01:54 --> 01:56 - You know, showing around. 01:56 --> 01:59 - It'd be like Mikhail Kazoonga. 01:59 --> 02:02 - Is the official Drago impersonator. 02:02 --> 02:06 - It's just him sitting in a bar with Vodka, 02:06 --> 02:09 talking about the glory days of when he fought Rocky Balboa. 02:09 --> 02:12 So we've got the Iron Horse from America, Rocky Balboa, 02:12 --> 02:14 versus, there we go. 02:14 --> 02:17 - Iron Horse from America, Rocky Balboa, 02:17 --> 02:18 comes with the show. 02:18 --> 02:19 - I'm gonna go with the bar. 02:19 --> 02:21 - There's the Russian translators. 02:21 --> 02:24 - Italy, USSR, Japan, they're all there, you know. 02:24 --> 02:25 - It's a world event. 02:25 --> 02:25 - Yeah, it is. 02:25 --> 02:27 - There's been re-nicknamed Death... 02:27 --> 02:28 - I'll turn this down a bit. 02:28 --> 02:29 There you go. 02:29 --> 02:32 - So Drago was nicknamed the Death From Above. 02:32 --> 02:33 - Oh, interesting. 02:33 --> 02:36 There's a band called Death From Above. 02:36 --> 02:38 - This is a Christmas movie. 02:38 --> 02:39 Have you noticed that? 02:39 --> 02:41 Actually, this is Christmas Day, they had a Christmas tree. 02:41 --> 02:43 So there's a Christmas tree here. 02:43 --> 02:44 - Sure. 02:44 --> 02:45 - But it's in Russia. 02:45 --> 02:48 So did Rocky's crew put the Christmas tree up? 02:48 --> 02:50 - The decorations? 02:50 --> 02:52 Was it on their luggage? 02:52 --> 02:53 - Yeah, somebody brought it. 02:53 --> 02:55 Maybe it was Pauly. 02:55 --> 03:00 - So this crowd is really into this right now. 03:00 --> 03:02 First off, check out this guy's hair. 03:02 --> 03:04 - I was noticing that. 03:04 --> 03:06 It's like a white man fro. 03:06 --> 03:10 It's like this body to it that's uniform on the side and the top. 03:10 --> 03:11 It's like more of a helmet. 03:11 --> 03:12 - It's like a Lego head. 03:12 --> 03:13 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 03:13 --> 03:15 - I missed his title there, so what's that? 03:15 --> 03:16 What was his title? 03:16 --> 03:17 - Whose? 03:17 --> 03:19 - This Russian general, they gave him a title here. 03:19 --> 03:23 The General Secretary of the Soviet and other members of the Pulteboro 03:23 --> 03:26 have made their way to the seats high above the room. 03:26 --> 03:28 So that's supposed to kind of look like a Mikhail Gorbachev, 03:28 --> 03:31 but he's called, like, he's not the president of Russia. 03:31 --> 03:32 - Sure. 03:32 --> 03:33 - So he's not the president of Russia. 03:33 --> 03:34 - But they're giving the flavor. 03:34 --> 03:38 - So Pauly's got the American flag draped around his shoulder, 03:38 --> 03:40 and he's admitting that he says stupid things sometimes. 03:40 --> 03:41 - Drop that bomb. 03:41 --> 03:43 You give me respect. 03:43 --> 03:45 You know, it's hard for me to say these kind of things, 03:45 --> 03:47 because that ain't my way. 03:47 --> 03:51 But if I could just unzip myself and step out and be someone else, 03:51 --> 03:52 I want it for you. 03:52 --> 03:55 - You're a little hot, Rocky. 03:55 --> 03:57 - It was the last time I kissed you like that. 03:57 --> 03:58 - Yeah. 03:58 --> 04:01 So Pauly just kissed Rocky and said, you know-- 04:01 --> 04:05 Sorry if the audio was bad there, but we do have the subtitles on for our watchers of this video. 04:05 --> 04:11 But basically here, what Pauly was just saying, he loves Rocky. He says stupid things. He knows that people would have dropped him. 04:11 --> 04:13 - Yeah. - And that's actually true. 04:13 --> 04:16 - Yeah. - I like how Pauly at least recognizes that-- 04:16 --> 04:18 - He's gonna be self-aware. 04:18 --> 04:20 - That is self-aware. - Yeah. 04:20 --> 04:24 - And of course this is set up a comedic moment coming up. Do you remember? 04:24 --> 04:36 - I'm a little rusty. - Okay, that's fine. That's fine. You'll see it when it happens. But this is a very tender moment. We've seen Pauly really stripped down and saying, "Hey, I love you, Rocky." And he gives him that man kiss. And I-- I-- I-- 04:36 --> 04:37 Is it because he's Italian they can do that? 04:38 --> 04:42 I have some friends that are Italian, and his father was visiting. 04:42 --> 04:44 And he kept on calling his dad Papa. 04:44 --> 04:45 Hey, Papa. 04:45 --> 04:46 Really? 04:46 --> 04:47 It was quite endearing, actually. 04:48 --> 04:49 That's adorable. 04:50 --> 04:51 We don't call our dad Papa. 04:51 --> 04:51 No. 04:52 --> 04:54 And have you ever kissed a friend? 04:55 --> 04:56 Like a man friend? 04:56 --> 04:58 I love you, and you give him a kiss? 04:59 --> 05:02 If I have, I've really just repressed it. 05:03 --> 05:06 And of course, Adrian there was very touched by this. 05:06 --> 05:06 Yeah. 05:07 --> 05:08 Thanks, Paulio. 05:08 --> 05:10 I don't know who did the captions. 05:10 --> 05:13 This is a legally downloaded video with subtitles. 05:14 --> 05:15 I do own these. 05:15 --> 05:19 For the record, MGM or United Artists, I own this video. 05:19 --> 05:21 I don't know how to rip DVDs. 05:22 --> 05:23 Now bust this guy's teeth out. 05:25 --> 05:25 I'll try. 05:26 --> 05:26 I'll try. 05:28 --> 05:32 He said this to Tony last time, that he would try to beat triangles. 05:32 --> 05:35 This is the theme that he has in the last couple episodes. 05:35 --> 05:36 Good try. 05:37 --> 05:39 So now the crowd is, you know, booing him. 05:40 --> 05:41 I like how it's a military crowd. 05:42 --> 05:43 Yeah, there's a lot of military. 05:45 --> 05:46 One of the fighters, I wonder if it's Rocky. 05:47 --> 05:49 It's a boo, you know. 06:00 --> 06:01 I'm sure it bothers him a little bit. 06:02 --> 06:04 I love how he gives a stare down there to the Russian leader. 06:04 --> 06:09 Like he kind of knows those are the bigwigs up there and he kind of gives them like a stare down. 06:09 --> 06:12 The fight is bigger than him against Drago. 06:13 --> 06:14 He's fighting for America. 06:14 --> 06:14 That's right. 06:14 --> 06:15 He's fighting for America. 06:15 --> 06:16 Now check out this scene, Ruben. 06:16 --> 06:19 This takes place on Christmas Day. 06:19 --> 06:19 Yes. 06:19 --> 06:21 Now this might be early in the morning. 06:21 --> 06:23 I'm a little confused by the Russian time zone. 06:23 --> 06:25 I'm not sure when the fight's taking place. 06:25 --> 06:35 My understanding is that if this is Christmas night in Philadelphia, it's like 9 a.m. ish in Russia. 06:36 --> 06:37 I think the fight's probably taken later. 06:37 --> 06:39 So I think they're probably up late. 06:39 --> 06:41 I think it's probably not Christmas morning. 06:41 --> 06:43 It's probably Christmas Eve in 3 in the morning. 06:43 --> 06:44 Why don't you bring his boy with him? 06:45 --> 06:45 We don't know. 06:46 --> 06:48 Would you want to take your kid to that cabin in the woods? 06:49 --> 06:49 Yeah. 06:50 --> 06:50 For six weeks? 06:51 --> 06:51 Sure. 06:52 --> 06:53 Someone's watching the kid. 06:53 --> 06:54 I don't know. 06:54 --> 06:56 I think he's probably more comfortable here. 06:56 --> 06:58 Now he says here to his friends. 06:58 --> 07:00 Now his friends have... 07:00 --> 07:00 Who's watching? 07:01 --> 07:01 I don't know. 07:01 --> 07:02 The robot. 07:02 --> 07:03 Cisco is watching? 07:03 --> 07:03 Seiko. 07:03 --> 07:04 Seiko. 07:04 --> 07:04 Sorry. 07:04 --> 07:05 Seiko. 07:05 --> 07:06 So check this out. 07:06 --> 07:07 I'm going to use my mouse here. 07:07 --> 07:09 So we got boxing gloves on the robot. 07:09 --> 07:09 Yeah. 07:09 --> 07:10 Did you catch that? 07:10 --> 07:11 I did not. 07:13 --> 07:15 And he's got a candy cane or something in his hand. 07:16 --> 07:17 So he's got boxing gloves. 07:17 --> 07:18 They got him decked out in the beard. 07:19 --> 07:20 His eyes look like snowflakes. 07:21 --> 07:21 Yeah. 07:21 --> 07:21 For sure. 07:22 --> 07:24 Rocky Jr. has a couple friends over. 07:24 --> 07:26 So these kids are not at their parents' house. 07:26 --> 07:28 So I think this was probably Christmas night. 07:28 --> 07:29 So they've already opened up their gifts. 07:29 --> 07:29 Yeah. 07:30 --> 07:31 You know, you can see a bike here. 07:31 --> 07:33 So it looks like Rocky Jr. got another bike for Christmas. 07:34 --> 07:36 They say, you know, he goes, that's my dad. 07:36 --> 07:38 And then they say, you know, what do you think we are, nerds? 07:40 --> 07:43 Well, I think back in the 80s, nerds weren't cool. 07:44 --> 07:46 Now, the nerds rule the world, man. 07:46 --> 07:46 Yeah. 07:47 --> 07:48 Listen to this crowd. 07:48 --> 07:48 It sounds insane. 07:48 --> 07:49 So look at this. 07:49 --> 07:51 Look at the face of Rocky Jr. here when he gets called out. 07:52 --> 07:53 That's my dad. 07:53 --> 07:54 He looks totally dejected. 07:54 --> 07:55 What do you think we are? 07:55 --> 07:56 Nerds? 07:59 --> 07:59 Oh. 08:00 --> 08:00 Look at that. 08:00 --> 08:00 Look. 08:00 --> 08:01 He got. 08:01 --> 08:03 The sadness in his face. 08:03 --> 08:05 He got totally called out by his friend. 08:05 --> 08:09 And he's like, I just want to have some friends. 08:09 --> 08:09 And he just loves it. 08:10 --> 08:12 So these two guys, they're in on, you know, ragging on. 08:13 --> 08:14 And then Seiko in the background even noticed too. 08:16 --> 08:21 So the crowd is very much not happy with this right now. 08:23 --> 08:25 Now the crowd has turned down a little bit so we can keep talking. 08:27 --> 08:28 We'll just talk over the intros here. 08:28 --> 08:29 Nothing really going on here. 08:30 --> 08:31 So I have on dry goes now in training. 08:31 --> 08:32 And there's a really cool music. 08:32 --> 08:35 We'll just turn it up for the music part with the dry goes entry. 08:47 --> 08:49 the energy 08:51 --> 08:57 great this to pull up soundtracks you gotta assume the whole crowd 09:05 --> 09:09 okay so Drago's making his way this is a great entrance Drago and Rocky staring 09:09 --> 09:16 each other down these two are out for blood revenge now remember this final 09:16 --> 09:19 fight sequence was filmed in our neck of the woods Vancouver British Columbia was 09:19 --> 09:24 that BC place not BC place the P&E Coliseum but the little venue what's it 09:24 --> 09:29 called the smaller P&E farm the P&E form whatever yeah I actually another boxing 09:29 --> 09:34 match film was there there's a trivia for you what's that I think Pluto Nash 09:34 --> 09:40 with Owen Wilson Eddie Murphy oh wow our brother Jason did work security at it nice 09:40 --> 09:44 well I think we actually mentioned that before we've mentioned this you've told 09:44 --> 09:47 me that before but for our first time watchers listeners look at Sly's build 09:47 --> 09:52 here look at that it's not bad for 41 42 09:52 --> 09:57 Dolph Lundgren's about 28 here I believe so it's about 15 year difference between these two oh Russian Athens shh 10:10 --> 10:20 I love this big Drago artwork somebody really painted it though somebody really painted it though somebody real songs that's a great likeness to 10:20 --> 10:24 Look at that barrel chest. 10:24 --> 10:27 And he's looking at it, yeah. 10:27 --> 10:28 That's me. 10:28 --> 10:31 What is the world of their faces? 10:31 --> 10:33 Vaseline, remember we talked about that? 10:33 --> 10:34 Vaseline, sweat. 10:34 --> 10:38 But they have Vaseline on their face so the skin doesn't tear. 10:38 --> 10:47 When I was a kid I used to think that the more muscular you were, your hairs would go 10:47 --> 10:48 away, pop off. 10:48 --> 10:50 Pop in, like recede inside. 10:50 --> 10:51 Oh wow. 10:51 --> 10:52 Does that make sense? 10:52 --> 10:55 Yeah, well it makes sense because everyone that's chiseled has no hair. 10:55 --> 10:57 You see Paulie there? 10:57 --> 10:58 He was holding the flag. 10:58 --> 11:02 He was clutching to the flag because he's a little fearful but he's holding the American 11:02 --> 11:03 flag. 11:03 --> 11:04 Security blanket. 11:04 --> 11:06 Security blanket with the American flag. 11:06 --> 11:13 So the crowd is definitely into this match here. 11:13 --> 11:15 I mean there is some real excitement in the air here. 11:15 --> 11:16 I like how they start off in English. 11:16 --> 11:22 They are just, they almost don't look natural. 11:22 --> 11:23 No. 11:23 --> 11:24 That is a natural. 11:24 --> 11:26 Such a hostile crowd, eh? 11:26 --> 11:27 Oh. 11:27 --> 11:30 I've seen some more hostile crowds in UFC fights in this one, I'll tell you that much. 11:30 --> 11:33 But just, it almost looks like the high waistband. 11:33 --> 11:34 It goes over their belly button. 11:34 --> 11:36 Is that what looks weird? 11:36 --> 11:37 To me it does. 11:37 --> 11:39 So here we go with the instructions. 11:39 --> 11:40 We'll listen to this. 11:40 --> 11:43 It's an unbelievable sight to see. 11:43 --> 11:46 They're toe to toe. 11:46 --> 11:51 The Russian towers above the American is the true case of David and Goliath here. 11:51 --> 11:53 This is the mannequin. 11:53 --> 11:55 The Russian towers above the American is the same. 11:55 --> 11:56 The Russian towers above 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mentioned that in the first one for Creed 2. 13:36 --> 13:37 Okay. 13:38 --> 13:39 Some of it looks CGI. 13:39 --> 13:40 Really? 13:40 --> 13:40 Yeah. 13:40 --> 13:41 The fighting? 13:41 --> 13:41 Yeah. 13:42 --> 13:44 I've been meaning to bring that up. 13:44 --> 13:46 Does any one of our listeners want to speak to that? 13:46 --> 13:48 Ruben feels that some of the fight sequences might have been... 13:48 --> 13:50 Are you talking about the crowd or the actual... 13:50 --> 13:51 No, the actual fighting between the people. 13:52 --> 13:54 Maybe it's so high def. 13:54 --> 13:54 I don't know. 13:54 --> 13:55 I don't know. 13:55 --> 13:57 So here's Rocky just going to the body. 13:57 --> 13:58 Going to the midsection. 13:58 --> 14:00 And it says here he's hit him with everything that he's got. 14:01 --> 14:02 And Drago's like, come on, give me more. 14:02 --> 14:05 They really make him look so small. 14:05 --> 14:08 Boy, with the sound down a little bit, it's actually... 14:08 --> 14:11 You can see how they're holding the punches back a little bit. 14:11 --> 14:12 You can kind of see... 14:12 --> 14:12 And you have to. 14:12 --> 14:14 But you can kind of see how the punches are being held back a little bit. 14:15 --> 14:17 But can you imagine that if you saw this fight for real? 14:18 --> 14:19 Like on some sort of pay-per-view. 14:19 --> 14:21 Just how crazy it would look. 14:21 --> 14:23 With those kind of punches being thrown. 14:23 --> 14:24 And guys being thrown around. 14:24 --> 14:26 That's a little WWF. 14:26 --> 14:26 Yeah. 14:26 --> 14:28 Or WWE now, I guess. 14:29 --> 14:30 So the champ is down. 14:30 --> 14:31 They referred to him as the champ. 14:31 --> 14:35 But I believe his title was stripped before he got to this fight. 14:35 --> 14:37 I think it's more of a term of endearment. 14:37 --> 14:38 Yeah, I was going to say he's... 14:38 --> 14:39 He's not the champ. 14:39 --> 14:39 He doesn't want to champ. 14:40 --> 14:40 Boys, the champ. 14:40 --> 14:40 That's right. 14:40 --> 14:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 14:42 --> 14:45 So Drago is just making mincemeat of Rocky here in the first round. 14:45 --> 14:48 But can only help but feel as a viewer that Rocky is in over his head. 14:48 --> 14:50 That he is in deep trouble with this match. 14:51 --> 14:51 What do you think? 14:51 --> 14:52 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 14:53 --> 14:57 So the announcer says here that Rocky is just trying to get through the first round. 14:57 --> 14:58 That's true. 14:58 --> 15:00 Oh, some shenanigans here. 15:00 --> 15:01 And look at Sly's face there. 15:01 --> 15:02 Like, oh, how could you do that? 15:02 --> 15:03 How could you throw me? 15:03 --> 15:04 Playing dirty. 15:04 --> 15:05 Yeah. 15:05 --> 15:06 So it's a tough three minutes for Rocky. 15:07 --> 15:08 And Drago appears to be invincible. 15:09 --> 15:09 The crowd is hostile. 15:10 --> 15:12 You could argue that the odds are stacked. 15:12 --> 15:13 Against our hero, Rocky. 15:13 --> 15:13 Yes, yes. 15:13 --> 15:14 How's he going to do it? 15:14 --> 15:16 So, of course, Tony asks what's happening out there. 15:16 --> 15:17 Rocky says he's winning. 15:18 --> 15:19 And then he sees three of them. 15:19 --> 15:21 So he's already got blurred vision. 15:21 --> 15:22 Yeah. 15:22 --> 15:23 How long would he last? 15:24 --> 15:24 Oh. 15:25 --> 15:26 Assuming no shots to the head. 15:26 --> 15:28 So no, like, you know, knockout. 15:28 --> 15:29 Against Drago? 15:29 --> 15:29 Yeah. 15:30 --> 15:31 Oh, I would be dead in one second. 15:32 --> 15:34 I can't take a punch. 15:34 --> 15:36 Not on the head, but just the rib cage. 15:36 --> 15:36 That would hurt. 15:37 --> 15:37 That would hurt. 15:37 --> 15:38 It would win me. 15:38 --> 15:39 I mean, you get one shot. 15:39 --> 15:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 15:41 --> 15:42 You feel your lungs collapse or something. 15:43 --> 15:44 No, I'd be dead meat. 15:44 --> 15:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 15:45 --> 15:46 To quote Clubber Lang. 15:46 --> 15:47 Quote him. 15:47 --> 15:48 Dead meat. 15:48 --> 15:49 There you go. 15:49 --> 15:51 Now already Tony's given the instructions, take his heart. 15:51 --> 15:53 And if you hurt him, take his heart. 15:53 --> 15:55 Then you'll take his heart or something like that. 15:55 --> 16:01 So we're already kind of, like, grabbing for those Rocky tropes a little bit early that, 16:01 --> 16:02 you know, take the heart of the opponent. 16:03 --> 16:03 Uh-huh. 16:03 --> 16:06 But Drago at this moment, I don't think he really has a heart. 16:06 --> 16:08 His weakness is just his brutality. 16:08 --> 16:08 Maybe. 16:09 --> 16:10 We'll see what happens. 16:10 --> 16:10 He's too machine. 16:11 --> 16:11 He's a machine. 16:12 --> 16:17 Just previously here, Drago's trainer was telling Drago that Rocky is weak. 16:17 --> 16:18 Small and weak. 16:18 --> 16:18 You got him. 16:19 --> 16:19 Take care of him. 16:19 --> 16:21 And Tony's like, take his heart. 16:21 --> 16:22 There's no pain. 16:22 --> 16:22 No pain. 16:22 --> 16:23 Take his heart. 16:23 --> 16:23 Keep working. 16:24 --> 16:24 All right. 16:24 --> 16:25 Here we go. 16:25 --> 16:26 Round two, boys and girls. 16:27 --> 16:33 I love Rocky's, look at his, does any boxer really kind of do that? 16:33 --> 16:35 Kind of, it's an odd blocking choice. 16:36 --> 16:40 He really doesn't put his hand, like, I'm not a big boxing watcher, but I would. 16:40 --> 16:43 It doesn't come across as this is a professional boxer. 16:43 --> 16:43 No. 16:44 --> 16:45 So he's trying that reach. 16:45 --> 16:46 You know, you can see Rocky here. 16:46 --> 16:48 He's flying up in the air trying to get that hit in. 16:49 --> 16:49 But he's got one in there. 16:49 --> 16:50 Yeah. 16:50 --> 16:52 And now we got Drago just tossing Rocky. 16:53 --> 16:54 Just tossing him like a rag doll. 16:54 --> 16:56 Adrian screams out at Rocky. 16:56 --> 16:57 She's getting scared. 16:58 --> 16:59 He goes down again. 16:59 --> 17:00 But Rocky comes right back up. 17:01 --> 17:03 He bounces right back up, says the announcer, of course. 17:04 --> 17:06 And Apollo's already worried that Rocky's getting killed. 17:06 --> 17:11 And now the trainer's given that instruction, whatever that Russian instruction, to lay it down. 17:11 --> 17:12 Do you think he's really Russian? 17:13 --> 17:13 No. 17:14 --> 17:14 No. 17:15 --> 17:16 Just go, yeah. 17:16 --> 17:17 So Rocky's cut now. 17:17 --> 17:19 Drago's just pounding on him. 17:19 --> 17:19 Oh. 17:20 --> 17:21 He got a punch in. 17:21 --> 17:24 This is reminiscent of when Rocky fought Apollo in Rocky 1, 17:24 --> 17:28 where he knocked Apollo down for the first time in his career early in the fight. 17:28 --> 17:29 We kind of had this here. 17:29 --> 17:32 The Siberian Express or the Siberian train Drago. 17:32 --> 17:33 I always love the blood. 17:33 --> 17:33 Yeah. 17:33 --> 17:34 A lot of blood flying around. 17:35 --> 17:35 Kids are loving it. 17:35 --> 17:36 Seagull's loving it. 17:37 --> 17:37 Here we go. 17:37 --> 17:38 We see now. 17:38 --> 17:41 We're starting to feel a little bit hopeful here that Rocky's not quite in trouble. 17:42 --> 17:42 Whoa. 17:43 --> 17:43 Oh, here we go. 17:44 --> 17:45 Speaking of WWF. 17:45 --> 17:46 There we go. 17:46 --> 17:48 Look at Tony and that guy in the back. 17:48 --> 17:49 I got to go back. 17:49 --> 17:50 Guys, check this out. 17:50 --> 17:54 Check out Tony and the other Russian trainer in the back just brawling. 17:55 --> 17:55 Right here. 17:55 --> 17:55 Look at this. 17:56 --> 17:57 I've never noticed. 17:57 --> 17:57 I've never noticed. 17:57 --> 17:58 I'm going to do it one more time. 17:58 --> 18:02 I have never noticed that they're really going at it. 18:04 --> 18:04 Holy cow. 18:06 --> 18:07 He threw him down. 18:08 --> 18:09 That's crazy. 18:09 --> 18:10 Have you ever noticed that? 18:10 --> 18:11 No, no, no, no. 18:11 --> 18:13 I'm sure we're going to have people who say, oh, yeah, I noticed. 18:14 --> 18:15 But they were really throwing it down. 18:16 --> 18:19 I love this that we can see that and show the audience what we're talking about. 18:19 --> 18:23 So now they're mad at him that he got cut, that he got hurt. 18:23 --> 18:27 The idea that they would think that Rocky couldn't hurt him is a little bit naive on their part. 18:27 --> 18:29 He's still a champion of the world. 18:29 --> 18:32 And now we've got the juxtaposition where he's saying he's not human. 18:32 --> 18:34 He's like a piece of iron, says Drago. 18:35 --> 18:38 Whereas the other side, Tony's telling him, look, he's not a machine. 18:38 --> 18:38 He's a man. 18:38 --> 18:39 You can hurt this guy. 18:40 --> 18:42 So now we've got the no pain. 18:43 --> 18:43 No pain. 18:44 --> 18:47 Would that work for you if Star just told you don't feel pain as you're being punched in the face? 18:48 --> 18:51 No, if I was going to punch in the face, I don't think I'd be listening to anybody. 18:53 --> 18:54 All right, so here we go. 18:54 --> 18:56 The music cue kicks in. 18:56 --> 18:59 I believe this piece by Vince DeCole is called War, I think. 18:59 --> 19:00 What is it good for? 19:00 --> 19:01 War, what is it good for? 19:03 --> 19:07 And it's our classic Rocky montage as the rounds go on, the punches are thrown. 19:07 --> 19:09 We don't quite know who's winning points-wise. 19:10 --> 19:11 Drago's happy with that round. 19:11 --> 19:11 Drago's happy with that round. 19:11 --> 19:13 Because his bangs are starting to come down. 19:13 --> 19:15 Yeah, the spike hair is coming down a little bit. 19:16 --> 19:17 We're back up in this fight here. 19:19 --> 19:20 Oh, big punch. 19:21 --> 19:23 So the crowd is just into this. 19:23 --> 19:25 Adrian's by herself, the only fan of Rocky in the crowd. 19:26 --> 19:27 That might change. 19:30 --> 19:33 So Rocky's gone down about, what, six, seven times? 19:34 --> 19:35 Well, at least... 19:35 --> 19:37 And I guess in Russia, they don't stop fights if you get knocked down. 19:37 --> 19:39 Look at his bangs back down. 19:39 --> 19:39 Yeah. 19:39 --> 19:41 See if they go back up. 19:42 --> 19:43 So Rocky's still giving it. 19:44 --> 19:50 Paulie's doing that old Tony Burton bald head rub there that's famous GIF or JIF that's on hand. 19:50 --> 19:51 It's dripping down. 19:51 --> 19:51 It's JIF. 19:52 --> 19:52 JIF. 19:53 --> 19:53 So Drago's cut. 19:54 --> 19:54 He's bleeding. 19:55 --> 19:55 He's got a... 19:55 --> 19:57 You see he's got a little bit of fear. 19:58 --> 20:00 And I can't believe this guy's doing what he's doing to me. 20:00 --> 20:01 Look in his face. 20:01 --> 20:01 Yeah. 20:02 --> 20:03 His gel is not holding up. 20:04 --> 20:05 Look how short Drago's shorts are, though. 20:05 --> 20:06 His trunks. 20:08 --> 20:09 They're quite short. 20:12 --> 20:13 Well, Russia's always a little behind on style. 20:14 --> 20:14 That's right. 20:15 --> 20:16 So round eight. 20:16 --> 20:18 The blood dripping on the face looks awesome. 20:19 --> 20:21 So we got the classic scene there of Rocky literally... 20:21 --> 20:21 I'm just going to show you. 20:22 --> 20:22 Look at that again, Rune. 20:22 --> 20:25 They're literally blocking the punches with his head. 20:25 --> 20:25 Look at this. 20:26 --> 20:26 Oh, yeah. 20:26 --> 20:28 Just taking the punches to the head. 20:30 --> 20:33 Now Rocky's going for the body because he can reach that part. 20:34 --> 20:36 Here's that slow motion. 20:36 --> 20:36 Yeah. 20:37 --> 20:37 Yeah. 20:37 --> 20:37 All right. 20:38 --> 20:38 Well, Ruben and I are just watching. 20:38 --> 20:39 We're just watching like you. 20:39 --> 20:40 I'm sorry. 20:40 --> 20:40 Yeah, I know. 20:40 --> 20:41 Hey, hey. 20:41 --> 20:41 This is okay. 20:42 --> 20:45 For the audio version, I get to delete those pauses. 20:45 --> 20:47 But for the video version... 20:47 --> 20:48 The kids at home punch and punch. 20:48 --> 20:49 Because I remember being about that age. 20:50 --> 20:50 Yeah. 20:50 --> 20:51 Let's go back to that. 20:52 --> 20:53 I missed the kids getting old-sided. 20:53 --> 20:56 I'm about the kids' age in real life. 20:56 --> 20:58 So watching this, I could really relate to that. 20:58 --> 20:58 You know? 20:59 --> 20:59 Yeah. 20:59 --> 21:01 That's your dad out there punching on punches. 21:01 --> 21:04 Can you imagine our dad in a ring throwing punches against him? 21:04 --> 21:05 Well, you know what? 21:05 --> 21:06 I wouldn't put it past that. 21:06 --> 21:07 If he was a boxer. 21:07 --> 21:07 Yeah. 21:07 --> 21:08 He's tough. 21:08 --> 21:09 He's a tough cookie. 21:10 --> 21:10 There they are. 21:10 --> 21:11 The kids just love it. 21:11 --> 21:12 Oh, Sisko was moving his arms. 21:12 --> 21:13 Oh, was he? 21:13 --> 21:14 It was just Seiko. 21:14 --> 21:14 Sorry. 21:14 --> 21:15 He was saying Sisko. 21:15 --> 21:17 Seiko was moving his arms, of course. 21:17 --> 21:17 He was into it. 21:18 --> 21:23 So I love how Seiko, we talk about this, how he's able to take in the invite. 21:24 --> 21:25 So he's watching the boxing match. 21:25 --> 21:26 He's like AI. 21:26 --> 21:30 He's totally, he's a real intelligence. 21:30 --> 21:30 Sure, yeah. 21:30 --> 21:31 He's watching the boxing match. 21:31 --> 21:33 He knows that he's voting for Rocky's owner. 21:33 --> 21:33 Yeah. 21:34 --> 21:36 More spitting, snarling. 21:37 --> 21:39 Rocky's actually saying, let's go, let's do the next round. 21:39 --> 21:41 So Rocky's getting like that second and third win. 21:41 --> 21:42 He's got the eye of the tiger. 21:42 --> 21:44 Eye of the tiger, man. 21:44 --> 21:44 Oh, he's down again. 21:44 --> 21:47 So now we've got here a few cheers now for Balboa. 21:47 --> 21:49 Suddenly Moscow is pro-Rocky. 21:50 --> 21:53 Now, would this ever really happen in any country? 21:54 --> 21:55 Like, I watch hockey. 21:55 --> 21:58 To flip that quickly is pretty unlikely. 21:59 --> 22:02 I watch hockey, and right now it's the World Junior Hockey, right? 22:02 --> 22:04 I don't know where they're being held right now, the hockey tournament. 22:05 --> 22:07 But everyone has their own countries. 22:07 --> 22:07 Sure. 22:08 --> 22:09 So we're Canada. 22:09 --> 22:09 True. 22:10 --> 22:12 Let's pretend we're watching our Canadian team play. 22:12 --> 22:15 Let's just say for poops and giggles, they're playing Russia. 22:15 --> 22:16 Sure. 22:16 --> 22:19 And let's say Russia was the odds favorite to lose. 22:20 --> 22:20 Okay. 22:20 --> 22:21 Russia was not the favorite. 22:22 --> 22:24 Canada, as they usually are, was the favorite. 22:24 --> 22:24 I follow you. 22:25 --> 22:26 So Russia says... 22:26 --> 22:28 I start cheering for the other country. 22:29 --> 22:31 But what scenario would you... 22:31 --> 22:36 Even if you saw Russia working hard, and maybe even getting ahead a little bit, 22:36 --> 22:40 and they tied the game, if there's 10 minutes to go... 22:40 --> 22:46 Well, I think it's the underlining part that this movie plays, or this fight plays, that... 22:46 --> 22:46 America's all good? 22:47 --> 22:47 America's all good. 22:47 --> 22:49 They're now seeing... 22:49 --> 22:49 How good America... 22:49 --> 22:50 How good America is. 22:51 --> 22:52 Yeah, they're all turistic good. 22:53 --> 22:56 They're the country, and the type of people that you should be, like... 22:56 --> 22:57 That any... 22:57 --> 22:58 Your dreams can happen. 22:58 --> 22:58 Yeah. 22:58 --> 23:03 But here's the thing, their soldier and athlete is losing, or starting to lose. 23:03 --> 23:08 Instead of cheering him on and thinking, you've got to come on, they've abandoned... 23:08 --> 23:10 Because they don't believe in their motherland. 23:10 --> 23:11 But they're abandoned. 23:11 --> 23:12 It's almost like... 23:12 --> 23:13 It's called the Bronx Cheer. 23:14 --> 23:18 Meaning they're cheering for Rocky, almost as a screw you to Drago. 23:18 --> 23:20 They're dissatisfied with Mother Russia. 23:20 --> 23:25 I know it's designed for us as an audience to be like, oh, Rocky's not alone. 23:26 --> 23:27 He's got his support. 23:27 --> 23:27 Yeah, yeah. 23:28 --> 23:30 But you can only imagine what this does to Drago. 23:30 --> 23:34 That his country is literally, mid-fight, turned their back on him. 23:34 --> 23:34 Yeah. 23:34 --> 23:36 Why can't he go the distance? 23:36 --> 23:37 Anyways, I feel... 23:37 --> 23:39 But we learn that that's what his country did. 23:39 --> 23:39 Yes. 23:39 --> 23:41 In Creed 2, we do find out. 23:41 --> 23:42 That is exactly what happened. 23:42 --> 23:44 That both his wife and his country abandoned him. 23:44 --> 23:46 You actually start to feel... 23:46 --> 23:48 There's scenes coming up here where you actually... 23:48 --> 23:51 Dolph does a good job as a young 28-year-old first-time actor. 23:52 --> 23:54 Kind of expressing a broken man at the end. 23:54 --> 23:55 That he's truly broken. 23:55 --> 23:58 That you don't find glee in his loss. 23:59 --> 24:00 Oh, we still got the no pain. 24:00 --> 24:01 I guess it's working. 24:01 --> 24:02 Yeah. 24:02 --> 24:03 The music keeps going. 24:03 --> 24:04 Their muscles are just... 24:05 --> 24:06 Unnaturally... 24:06 --> 24:07 Unnatural physique. 24:07 --> 24:08 Especially Dolph. 24:08 --> 24:09 He's just almost like a triangle. 24:10 --> 24:10 I know. 24:11 --> 24:14 Boy, Rocky's just getting pulverized there. 24:15 --> 24:17 I love how Tony throws the water in that guy's face. 24:17 --> 24:19 And then he throws it into Rocky's face. 24:21 --> 24:22 Emotions are high. 24:22 --> 24:22 Yeah. 24:23 --> 24:25 Why did he throw the water into Rocky's face? 24:26 --> 24:26 Cool him down. 24:27 --> 24:27 I don't know. 24:28 --> 24:29 So one more round. 24:29 --> 24:32 Oh, the Russian leaders are looking worried. 24:32 --> 24:33 Oh, look at this guy here. 24:33 --> 24:33 What's he... 24:33 --> 24:34 What's his... 24:34 --> 24:35 He's gonna tell somebody. 24:36 --> 24:37 Who's he pointing at? 24:37 --> 24:38 Is he pointing at the trainer? 24:39 --> 24:39 So look at this guy here. 24:39 --> 24:40 He's like... 24:40 --> 24:43 Now's the time you tell Drago to kill him. 24:43 --> 24:45 Like, is he speaking to the trainers? 24:45 --> 24:47 Are they looking up at this moment to get the instruction? 24:48 --> 24:48 Is he... 24:48 --> 24:51 Is he telling the guards to, you know, arrest Drago after the... 24:51 --> 24:51 Sure. 24:52 --> 24:53 But this was filmed. 24:53 --> 24:55 And there was direction given to this guy. 24:55 --> 24:56 I wonder what his... 24:56 --> 24:56 I don't know. 24:56 --> 24:58 What his direction was to be told, 24:58 --> 24:59 Hey, you know, who are you talking to? 25:01 --> 25:02 He might be just... 25:02 --> 25:03 Be directing somebody to the bathroom. 25:03 --> 25:04 Yeah. 25:04 --> 25:04 Perhaps. 25:04 --> 25:05 All your power. 25:05 --> 25:06 All your love. 25:06 --> 25:07 All your love. 25:07 --> 25:08 All your love. 25:09 --> 25:09 Let's go back. 25:09 --> 25:09 Let's go back. 25:09 --> 25:09 Let's listen to this. 25:10 --> 25:11 Don't stop it now. 25:11 --> 25:13 You're starting to be on stop. 25:13 --> 25:14 All your strength. 25:14 --> 25:15 All your power. 25:15 --> 25:16 All your love. 25:16 --> 25:17 Everything you've got. 25:19 --> 25:33 Great car coming up here. 25:48 --> 25:48 All right. 25:48 --> 25:51 You've got to punch and punch and you can't punch no more. 25:52 --> 25:53 It is a good scene, that part there. 25:53 --> 25:54 It's a great little sequence there. 25:55 --> 25:56 You've got to have... 25:56 --> 25:57 You've got to humanize him. 25:57 --> 26:00 That's a great shot of Drago picking up that guy. 26:00 --> 26:01 Look at that shot there. 26:02 --> 26:02 Now, is there... 26:02 --> 26:05 Can we see how he's being hung in the air? 26:05 --> 26:06 Do you see where... 26:06 --> 26:06 Movie magic. 26:07 --> 26:07 I know. 26:07 --> 26:10 I'm just trying to find the wire where he's getting... 26:10 --> 26:10 Right here. 26:10 --> 26:11 It must be something right here. 26:12 --> 26:12 Or no. 26:12 --> 26:13 It's just the strength. 26:13 --> 26:13 Yeah. 26:14 --> 26:15 Well, look at the... 26:15 --> 26:16 Look at the definition there. 26:16 --> 26:16 It's crazy. 26:17 --> 26:19 Does your arm look like that, Ribbon? 26:19 --> 26:19 No. 26:19 --> 26:19 No. 26:21 --> 26:22 Oh, that's great. 26:22 --> 26:23 That's a great part there. 26:23 --> 26:24 Drago just says, to the end. 26:24 --> 26:27 I think we're seeing a little bit of respect that Drago has for Rocky then. 26:27 --> 26:32 I always like how in American movies, the foreigners always know enough English. 26:33 --> 26:33 They just know enough English. 26:33 --> 26:34 Yeah. 26:34 --> 26:34 Yeah. 26:34 --> 26:35 Yeah, that's true. 26:35 --> 26:36 Trying to get inside. 26:37 --> 26:38 He's completely exhausted. 26:40 --> 26:44 Can you imagine taking these kind of punches after 15 rounds and still stand... 26:44 --> 26:50 So Rocky was told by Tony that the only way you've got to beat this guy is you've got to knock 26:50 --> 26:51 him out. 26:53 --> 26:53 Oh. 26:54 --> 26:55 Good job. 26:55 --> 26:56 Yeah, yeah. 26:57 --> 26:58 Well, look at Slider. 26:58 --> 26:59 He's just growling. 26:59 --> 27:00 Come on, fight. 27:00 --> 27:00 Look at that. 27:01 --> 27:02 Your punches give you power. 27:02 --> 27:02 That's right. 27:03 --> 27:04 He's hulking up. 27:04 --> 27:06 Drago's telling him to come in and fight. 27:06 --> 27:08 They both want to knock the other one out. 27:12 --> 27:13 Oh, here we go. 27:14 --> 27:14 Yeah. 27:14 --> 27:16 There's another bald head rub by Paulie. 27:16 --> 27:17 And you're chopping the Russian down. 27:17 --> 27:18 And there you go. 27:18 --> 27:19 Chopping the Russian down. 27:19 --> 27:20 Kyle mentioned this. 27:20 --> 27:22 You know, Rocky was chopping down trees. 27:23 --> 27:23 Oh, yeah. 27:23 --> 27:24 In the training montage. 27:24 --> 27:25 Now he's chopping the Russian down. 27:25 --> 27:27 So that's the foreshadow coming to fruition there. 27:29 --> 27:31 Okay, this is just back and forth. 27:32 --> 27:34 Maybe a John G. Ellison thing. 27:35 --> 27:35 Cardi kid. 27:36 --> 27:36 Yeah. 27:36 --> 27:37 Wax on, wax off. 27:37 --> 27:37 That's right. 27:38 --> 27:38 Yeah. 27:38 --> 27:39 Oh, he's told again. 27:40 --> 27:41 Oh, let's forget technique. 27:41 --> 27:42 Forget strategy. 27:42 --> 27:43 This is just a street fight. 27:43 --> 27:45 Another foreshadow to Rocky V. 27:45 --> 27:47 Where we do see a street fight. 27:49 --> 27:50 When you really watch this fight, 27:50 --> 27:54 it's pretty amazing just how many punches are thrown. 27:54 --> 27:56 How they're just pulverizing each other. 27:58 --> 27:59 Oh, here we go. 27:59 --> 27:59 The music kicks in. 27:59 --> 28:01 We know that the knockout punch is coming. 28:05 --> 28:06 Here we go. 28:07 --> 28:07 A couple more. 28:08 --> 28:09 There we go. 28:09 --> 28:10 And there's Adrian. 28:10 --> 28:11 You're going to do it. 28:11 --> 28:13 You're going to do it. 28:15 --> 28:16 Oh, the beast goes down. 28:17 --> 28:18 And Rocky wants more. 28:18 --> 28:19 He wants to be... 28:19 --> 28:20 Let me add him. 28:20 --> 28:20 Let me splat him. 28:22 --> 28:23 Oh, check this out, Rube. 28:23 --> 28:24 I don't know if you noticed this. 28:24 --> 28:28 So they got guys filming the film on these angles. 28:28 --> 28:30 So you see this guy coming up right here. 28:30 --> 28:30 Right here. 28:30 --> 28:30 See? 28:31 --> 28:32 That's a real... 28:32 --> 28:33 That's the guy with the camera. 28:33 --> 28:33 Oh, wow. 28:33 --> 28:34 That movie film. 28:34 --> 28:35 That's how they get these shots. 28:35 --> 28:37 Those shots that are close to the ring. 28:38 --> 28:39 Some of those cameras are actual cameras. 28:39 --> 28:40 They've done it in all the movies. 28:41 --> 28:42 You can catch them ringside, the actual cameras. 28:43 --> 28:43 Yeah. 28:44 --> 28:45 Hilarious. 28:46 --> 28:49 I always kind of like that Rocky spin around he does here. 28:49 --> 28:49 Watch that. 28:49 --> 28:51 When he gets the win, he does a little 360. 28:51 --> 28:52 Watch. 28:54 --> 28:55 A little whoop. 28:58 --> 29:02 So as per Rocky films, everybody jams packs in the ring. 29:03 --> 29:04 And who lifts him there? 29:04 --> 29:06 Is that Tony or Pauly that lifts Rocky? 29:06 --> 29:07 It is Tony, of course. 29:09 --> 29:11 And now check out this shot here, Rube. 29:12 --> 29:14 The ref holding Drago. 29:14 --> 29:17 Look at this. 29:17 --> 29:18 It's very intimate. 29:18 --> 29:19 It is. 29:20 --> 29:21 The ref is... 29:21 --> 29:22 Kudos to the ref. 29:22 --> 29:24 He's really concerned for Drago. 29:24 --> 29:25 Sure, yeah. 29:25 --> 29:26 He's a professional. 29:26 --> 29:28 Imagine if we had the same concern for Apollo. 29:29 --> 29:31 After he was on the canvas, maybe he wouldn't be dead. 29:31 --> 29:32 Perhaps not. 29:32 --> 29:33 There was nobody holding... 29:33 --> 29:35 Lessons were learned. 29:35 --> 29:35 Lessons were learned. 29:36 --> 29:36 Okay, that's fair. 29:36 --> 29:38 This did take place after that fight. 29:38 --> 29:39 Oh, there's the flag. 29:39 --> 29:40 Kids are happy. 29:41 --> 29:41 Rocky's happy. 29:41 --> 29:43 The crowd just loves Rocky now. 29:43 --> 29:46 We've got Russian audience members, Rube, in the ring. 29:48 --> 29:49 It's hilarious. 29:49 --> 29:50 They're part of it. 29:50 --> 29:51 Look at that. 29:51 --> 29:52 Good metaphor for life there. 29:53 --> 29:54 Is that a good metaphor? 29:54 --> 29:54 Sure. 29:55 --> 29:57 Nobody's there when you're toiling away. 29:58 --> 29:59 Everybody's booing at you. 29:59 --> 30:01 But the moment you win, yeah, we're there for you. 30:01 --> 30:02 Yeah. 30:02 --> 30:03 We're on your side. 30:03 --> 30:03 Yeah. 30:03 --> 30:04 Pro-America. 30:04 --> 30:04 Yeah. 30:05 --> 30:06 And if you lose, you're nothing. 30:06 --> 30:07 Yeah, there's the crowd. 30:07 --> 30:10 Everyone's just cheering. 30:11 --> 30:12 And Drago, see right here. 30:12 --> 30:14 This part here, you kind of feel bad for Drago. 30:14 --> 30:15 He can't even stand up. 30:16 --> 30:16 What do you think? 30:16 --> 30:17 Like, that's actually... 30:17 --> 30:19 Probably questioning his life choices there. 30:19 --> 30:20 Well, look at his arm here. 30:20 --> 30:22 That's someone's hand on his arm. 30:22 --> 30:23 I see it now. 30:23 --> 30:25 I was going to say, what happened to his arm? 30:26 --> 30:28 But I actually feel Drago's beating. 30:28 --> 30:28 Yeah. 30:28 --> 30:29 Look at this kid here. 30:30 --> 30:30 Who is he? 30:31 --> 30:32 Who is this kid? 30:32 --> 30:33 Are you listening to the show right now, buddy? 30:33 --> 30:34 Come talk to us. 30:35 --> 30:35 Adrian's coming. 30:36 --> 30:37 Look how happy Polly is, eh? 30:38 --> 30:39 Like, he's truly just so happy. 30:40 --> 30:42 And he's got his hand on Adrian's back there. 30:42 --> 30:44 Hopefully right now isn't where Polly wants to be Rocky. 30:45 --> 30:45 Yeah. 30:45 --> 30:49 Okay, so right now, LaMilla is making plans for her escape. 30:49 --> 30:50 Sure, yeah. 30:50 --> 30:51 From Drago's life. 30:51 --> 30:52 She's like, ugh. 30:53 --> 30:59 The child they had together, Victor Drago, I think he's only about anywhere between 25 and 30. 31:00 --> 31:02 And this film took place 33 years ago. 31:03 --> 31:07 So they had a kid together three to five years after the events of Rocky IV. 31:07 --> 31:13 So they stayed together long enough to have the child and for her to abandon the child. 31:13 --> 31:14 So they did have a kid together. 31:14 --> 31:15 But she's now kind of formulating. 31:15 --> 31:17 Yeah, you see the chinks in the armor. 31:17 --> 31:20 Maybe this guy here, he's like, oh, I might have a chance with her. 31:20 --> 31:21 Well, here we go. 31:22 --> 31:22 Big speech. 31:22 --> 31:23 Everyone quiet. 31:23 --> 31:25 Polly, just look how happy he is. 31:25 --> 31:26 Look at that. 31:26 --> 31:26 Yeah. 31:27 --> 31:29 I came here tonight and I didn't know what to expect. 31:30 --> 31:37 I've seen a lot of people hating me and I didn't know what to feel about that. 31:38 --> 31:39 I'm watching Polly. 31:39 --> 31:41 I didn't like you much none either. 31:42 --> 31:44 So how does the Russian translate improper English? 31:45 --> 31:47 I didn't like you too much nuns neither. 31:47 --> 31:56 So Kyle, our sometime guest host, he said he has a Russian friend who is still waiting 31:56 --> 31:58 for us to send him the audio clips of these things. 31:58 --> 32:00 And he's pretty certain that a lot of it's gibberish. 32:01 --> 32:02 That literally even during this translation part. 32:03 --> 32:03 Oh, hilarious. 32:03 --> 32:04 It's actual gibberish. 32:05 --> 32:05 Hilarious. 32:07 --> 32:11 During this fight, I've seen a lot of changing. 32:12 --> 32:14 The way you felt about me. 32:14 --> 32:16 The way I felt about you. 32:16 --> 32:17 How about you? 32:17 --> 32:19 I felt that you were there. 32:19 --> 32:20 Quietly are. 32:20 --> 32:20 Oh, okay. 32:20 --> 32:25 I love this moment because this guy, he's looking at the Drago flag. 32:25 --> 32:25 He's a guard. 32:26 --> 32:29 He's probably guarding something or his security. 32:29 --> 32:32 But he's taking a moment out of his duties. 32:32 --> 32:32 Sure. 32:32 --> 32:36 To pay attention to the words of wisdom that are going in the back of his head. 32:36 --> 32:37 He's like, this is an important moment right now. 32:38 --> 32:38 Sure. 32:38 --> 32:40 It's like the bricks of the brown wall about to come down. 32:41 --> 32:43 In here, there are two guys. 32:43 --> 32:45 That's a great shot there though. 32:45 --> 32:46 But here we are. 32:47 --> 32:47 Drago. 32:48 --> 32:49 He looks kind of funny here. 32:49 --> 32:50 His lips. 32:51 --> 32:52 The makeup. 32:52 --> 32:53 Yeah, I know. 32:53 --> 32:55 But he does look almost plastic. 32:55 --> 32:55 Yeah. 32:56 --> 32:57 He's so chiseled and shiny. 32:58 --> 32:58 Showing each other. 33:00 --> 33:00 But I guess. 33:01 --> 33:01 That's better than 20 million. 33:02 --> 33:04 Better than 20 million. 33:04 --> 33:06 What I'm trying to say is. 33:07 --> 33:07 Here we go. 33:07 --> 33:08 If I can change. 33:08 --> 33:08 Yeah. 33:09 --> 33:10 And you can change. 33:10 --> 33:11 Look, look, look. 33:11 --> 33:13 I've always loved this moment here. 33:13 --> 33:13 So watch this. 33:15 --> 33:16 It's a subtle moment. 33:16 --> 33:18 And we talked about this on one of our episodes. 33:18 --> 33:21 This is our least kind of favorite part of Rocky IV. 33:21 --> 33:22 The speech. 33:22 --> 33:22 Sure. 33:22 --> 33:24 If I can change, you can change. 33:24 --> 33:25 Everybody can change. 33:26 --> 33:26 Sure. 33:26 --> 33:27 You can also change for the worst. 33:29 --> 33:30 Change goes both ways. 33:30 --> 33:35 If I can change my hatred towards kindness, we can all change. 33:35 --> 33:36 Change goes both ways. 33:36 --> 33:37 But we know what he meant. 33:37 --> 33:40 But check out Talia Shire and or Adrian. 33:41 --> 33:42 Because remember on the stairs. 33:42 --> 33:44 A scene where Adrian told Rocky. 33:45 --> 33:46 Why can't you change the way you are? 33:46 --> 33:47 Everybody else does. 33:48 --> 33:49 Like change with the times. 33:50 --> 33:51 Because Rocky says. 33:51 --> 33:52 I can't change who I am, Adrian. 33:53 --> 33:54 This is who I am. 33:54 --> 33:55 This is who you marry. 33:55 --> 33:58 So that was the last thing that Rocky said to Adrian in their house. 33:58 --> 33:59 Before he left Russia. 33:59 --> 34:01 Was that idea that he's never going to change. 34:01 --> 34:02 He can't change who he is. 34:03 --> 34:06 That argument still is reverberating in both his mind. 34:06 --> 34:07 Because he's speaking to the audience. 34:07 --> 34:08 But he's also speaking to Adrian. 34:09 --> 34:10 So there's a real subtle moment here. 34:10 --> 34:11 Let me see if you catch it. 34:11 --> 34:13 Watch Adrian's body language. 34:13 --> 34:16 What I was trying to say is. 34:17 --> 34:18 If I can change. 34:18 --> 34:18 Watch Adrian here. 34:19 --> 34:20 And you can change. 34:20 --> 34:21 We can change. 34:21 --> 34:21 See? 34:24 --> 34:25 It's a little subtle. 34:25 --> 34:26 Like you know we've got to hide down. 34:26 --> 34:27 We can change. 34:28 --> 34:30 Now I don't know if it's worthy of a cheer. 34:31 --> 34:31 But. 34:32 --> 34:32 Oh. 34:32 --> 34:33 Oh. 34:33 --> 34:34 He's breaking stuff. 34:34 --> 34:35 Wow. 34:36 --> 34:37 Well if he's standing up. 34:37 --> 34:38 I guess we all have to. 34:39 --> 34:40 You better stand up or you're dead. 34:40 --> 34:41 Look. 34:42 --> 34:45 I just want to say. 34:46 --> 34:49 One thing to my kid who should be home sleeping. 34:49 --> 34:51 Merry Christmas kid. 34:51 --> 34:52 I love you. 34:53 --> 34:53 Oh. 34:54 --> 34:55 Now he's happy. 34:55 --> 34:56 Yeah. 34:58 --> 34:59 There we go. 34:59 --> 35:00 Alright. 35:02 --> 35:04 So that is the end of Rocky 4. 35:05 --> 35:05 Wow. 35:06 --> 35:06 We did it. 35:07 --> 35:07 Yo Ruben. 35:08 --> 35:09 We did it. 35:09 --> 35:10 We went the distance. 35:10 --> 35:11 We went the distance with Rocky 4. 35:12 --> 35:13 So we want to thank. 35:13 --> 35:14 You guys. 35:14 --> 35:16 For watching our show on Facebook. 35:16 --> 35:17 And on YouTube. 35:17 --> 35:19 For listening to us on iTunes. 35:19 --> 35:21 And on our Lipsyn account. 35:21 --> 35:22 Or Podbean. 35:22 --> 35:24 Or whatever app you use. 35:24 --> 35:25 We just want to say thank you guys. 35:25 --> 35:27 For listening to us talk about Rocky 4. 35:28 --> 35:28 For the past. 35:28 --> 35:29 It seems like a long time. 35:29 --> 35:30 This has been a long season. 35:30 --> 35:32 I think we've got about 30 plus episodes on this season. 35:32 --> 35:33 Crazy. 35:33 --> 35:34 And if you haven't left a review. 35:35 --> 35:35 Don't worry. 35:36 --> 35:36 You can change. 35:37 --> 35:37 Yes. 35:38 --> 35:40 Because I've left a review on people's podcasts. 35:40 --> 35:41 Before you're ever leaving a review. 35:42 --> 35:42 That's right. 35:42 --> 35:43 And I change. 35:43 --> 35:44 So if I can change. 35:44 --> 35:44 Then you can change. 35:44 --> 35:45 And then you can change. 35:45 --> 35:46 And everybody can change. 35:46 --> 35:48 Because we have. 35:48 --> 35:48 You know. 35:49 --> 35:49 We have a. 35:50 --> 35:51 We don't have a lot of listeners. 35:51 --> 35:51 Let's be honest. 35:51 --> 35:52 We just don't have a lot of listeners. 35:53 --> 35:53 But. 35:53 --> 35:54 We have enough. 35:54 --> 35:55 That we're. 35:55 --> 35:56 Getting a fraction. 35:56 --> 35:57 Of who's listening. 35:57 --> 35:58 Responding to our show. 35:58 --> 35:58 So. 35:58 --> 35:59 Sure. 35:59 --> 36:00 You guys are listening and watching. 36:00 --> 36:01 Leave us a review. 36:01 --> 36:01 Come on. 36:01 --> 36:02 Like how hard is that? 36:02 --> 36:03 I don't understand. 36:03 --> 36:04 This takes a lot of time. 36:04 --> 36:05 When you leave a review. 36:05 --> 36:06 Tell us how hard it is. 36:06 --> 36:07 Yeah. 36:09 --> 36:09 In fact. 36:09 --> 36:11 I want your review only to mention. 36:11 --> 36:12 How hard it is. 36:12 --> 36:13 To leave the review. 36:13 --> 36:14 You don't even talk about our show. 36:14 --> 36:16 So this is going to be episode 98. 36:17 --> 36:18 Episode 99. 36:18 --> 36:19 Ruben is already recorded. 36:19 --> 36:20 And I'll tell you what that is. 36:20 --> 36:20 Oh wow. 36:20 --> 36:21 Yeah. 36:21 --> 36:22 So episode 100. 36:22 --> 36:23 Ruben and I will be doing together. 36:23 --> 36:24 We have to. 36:24 --> 36:25 Because it's episode 100. 36:25 --> 36:28 We're going to do a live recording of that. 36:28 --> 36:30 We want to make it live and interactive on our Facebook page. 36:30 --> 36:31 So be ready for that. 36:32 --> 36:32 I'll be ready. 36:32 --> 36:34 We want to thank our listeners during that. 36:34 --> 36:38 We want to talk about our experiences about of the podcast thus far. 36:39 --> 36:40 Just in general. 36:40 --> 36:40 What it's been like. 36:41 --> 36:42 The interviews we've done. 36:42 --> 36:43 We've gotten emails. 36:43 --> 36:44 Just so you know Ruben. 36:44 --> 36:47 We've gotten emails from about eight or nine listeners. 36:47 --> 36:48 Electronic mail. 36:48 --> 36:51 Who have expressed their love for our show. 36:51 --> 36:51 Wow. 36:51 --> 36:52 And we're going to read those on the air. 36:52 --> 36:54 So it's going to be a bit of a love fest. 36:54 --> 36:55 100 episode. 36:55 --> 36:56 Before we start. 36:56 --> 36:57 Episode 101. 36:57 --> 36:58 If you can believe it. 36:59 --> 36:59 Rocky 5. 36:59 --> 37:00 Rocky 5. 37:00 --> 37:01 So we're almost there guys. 37:01 --> 37:02 A couple more episodes to go. 37:02 --> 37:03 We're going to be talking about Rocky 5. 37:04 --> 37:05 And we are going to give. 37:05 --> 37:06 The same fair. 37:07 --> 37:08 Detailed treatment. 37:08 --> 37:09 To Rocky 5. 37:09 --> 37:10 As we've given to Rocky's 1. 37:10 --> 37:12 It's an entangled part in the story. 37:12 --> 37:12 Yes. 37:13 --> 37:14 Without Rocky 5. 37:14 --> 37:14 We'll talk about. 37:14 --> 37:15 We would not have. 37:15 --> 37:16 The next three films. 37:17 --> 37:17 We would not. 37:17 --> 37:19 This has been an absolute joy. 37:19 --> 37:20 To talk about. 37:20 --> 37:21 Rocky 4. 37:21 --> 37:22 I love this movie. 37:22 --> 37:23 Does it have robots? 37:23 --> 37:24 Yes. 37:24 --> 37:25 Is it silly? 37:25 --> 37:25 Yes. 37:26 --> 37:26 Is there no dialogue? 37:27 --> 37:27 And no story? 37:28 --> 37:28 Yes. 37:28 --> 37:29 But I love it. 37:29 --> 37:30 It's good. 37:30 --> 37:31 It's my second favorite Rocky film. 37:31 --> 37:32 It's my favorite music video. 37:33 --> 37:33 It's a great music video. 37:33 --> 37:34 I love how. 37:34 --> 37:35 Even in the credits room. 37:35 --> 37:36 We get a picture montage. 37:36 --> 37:37 Of the film that we just saw. 37:38 --> 37:38 Yes. 37:39 --> 37:39 Black and white. 37:40 --> 37:41 So we know that it was in the past. 37:41 --> 37:41 It was in the past. 37:42 --> 37:42 So here we go. 37:42 --> 37:42 Vancouver Crew. 37:42 --> 37:43 Vancouver Crew. 37:43 --> 37:44 Give it up for our local boys. 37:44 --> 37:45 Hold on a second. 37:45 --> 37:46 Do you know these guys? 37:46 --> 37:46 No. 37:46 --> 37:48 We should try to reach out to some people. 37:49 --> 37:49 Well. 37:49 --> 37:50 Yeah. 37:50 --> 37:50 Okay. 37:50 --> 37:50 Well. 37:50 --> 37:52 How many Bob Ennises are there? 37:53 --> 37:53 Yeah. 37:53 --> 37:53 Bob Ennises. 37:53 --> 37:55 How many John Greens could there be? 37:55 --> 37:56 Not very many. 37:56 --> 37:57 Camera operators. 37:57 --> 37:58 Set directors. 37:58 --> 37:59 Construction coordinators. 37:59 --> 37:59 Gaffer. 38:00 --> 38:01 There's that key grip. 38:01 --> 38:01 Key grip. 38:01 --> 38:01 Yeah. 38:01 --> 38:02 We talked to Ben Rusty. 38:02 --> 38:03 See what he was. 38:03 --> 38:04 It's a key grip. 38:04 --> 38:04 So there you go. 38:04 --> 38:05 Vancouver. 38:05 --> 38:06 Score and Arrange. 38:06 --> 38:08 Produced by Vince DeCole and Ed Frugge. 38:08 --> 38:08 Eh? 38:09 --> 38:10 Orchestration Arrange. 38:10 --> 38:11 Conducted by Jeremy LeBuck. 38:12 --> 38:14 And additional orchestrations by Terry Doc Mahade. 38:15 --> 38:15 All right. 38:15 --> 38:17 Special thanks to Tony Papa and Casey Young. 38:17 --> 38:19 What were their special thanks I wonder? 38:19 --> 38:20 Got Eye of the Tiger. 38:21 --> 38:21 One Way Street. 38:22 --> 38:22 When was that? 38:22 --> 38:23 Peter Cox. 38:23 --> 38:24 Double or nothing. 38:25 --> 38:27 So this is the soundtrack song. 38:27 --> 38:28 Living in America. 38:28 --> 38:29 But hey. 38:29 --> 38:30 Just remember. 38:30 --> 38:32 We interviewed No Easy Way. 38:32 --> 38:32 Robert Tepper. 38:32 --> 38:34 And we also interviewed Vince DeCole. 38:34 --> 38:36 We have reached out to Survivor. 38:36 --> 38:38 The surviving members of Survivor a few times. 38:38 --> 38:40 They have given us a zero response. 38:41 --> 38:42 John Cafferty will try again. 38:42 --> 38:43 These other songs. 38:43 --> 38:45 They weren't in the actual movie. 38:45 --> 38:45 They're just on the soundtrack. 38:46 --> 38:46 I don't know. 38:46 --> 38:47 Ribbon. 38:47 --> 38:47 Anything further? 38:48 --> 38:49 Ding ding. 38:50 --> 38:50 Yeah. 38:50 --> 38:52 But we can't stop the recording during the credits. 38:52 --> 38:52 So I mean that's. 38:53 --> 38:54 You got to go all the way through. 38:54 --> 38:54 Right. 38:54 --> 38:55 I just said ding ding. 38:55 --> 38:56 Well you got Metro Color. 38:57 --> 38:58 You've got these events. 38:58 --> 39:01 The characters films and firms depicted in this photo play are fictitious. 39:02 --> 39:04 Any similar to actual persons living or dead or actual firms living or firms? 39:05 --> 39:05 Yeah. 39:06 --> 39:06 What does that mean? 39:06 --> 39:07 Firms? 39:07 --> 39:07 Like companies. 39:08 --> 39:08 Oh. 39:08 --> 39:10 Like Time Magazine or something like that. 39:10 --> 39:11 Alright. 39:11 --> 39:12 This is protected under law. 39:12 --> 39:13 I do own this on DVD. 39:13 --> 39:14 I do own this on DVD. 39:15 --> 39:16 I bought it like four times. 39:16 --> 39:18 I own it on Google Play. 39:18 --> 39:18 There you go. 39:19 --> 39:20 Alright. 39:20 --> 39:21 Jane Oliver. 39:21 --> 39:22 Rest in peace. 39:22 --> 39:23 Alright guys. 39:23 --> 39:24 Thanks for watching. 39:24 --> 39:25 Ding ding. 39:25 --> 39:26 Ding ding. 39:26 --> 39:26 Ding ding. 39:26 --> 39:56 Ding ding. 39:56 --> 39:58 Thank you. 39:58 --> 40:00 Thank you. 40:00 --> 40:01 Thank you.