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Strictly Bias with Will Retherford: Super Bowl LX Preview ... and other stuff (2.164.3) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back, Central Indiana Sports Fans to this week's edition of Strictly Bias with the Orts Truly Will Reatherford.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am here joined today by the legend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Greg Mangell to his done a phenomenal job covering Central Indiana Sports for the better part of two years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a couple legends that join us frequently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To this week, we're going to talk to the legend, though, the El Presidente of the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Greg, I think this week, we're going to cover.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A preview of the Super Bowl and then maybe some miscellaneous sports conversation, I'm not sure where the conversation is going to go, but we're just going to shoot this shit and see where it takes us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well now that football season's over, you and I've kind of been discussing what's next, and I've got a really good idea, and we're going to be talking about that over the next few days, and I think we have to re-tool after football season.
0:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And but for today, we're just going to talk some Super Bowl and some other stuff, because I saw your favorite baseball player is no longer on your favorite team, so that's kind of hurt.
1:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't step all over Paul Tipton in the MLB report, so I don't know what we're going to do yet.
1:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious to see, I have not heard what your idea is up to this point, but I'm excited to hear about it.
1:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, Vernon Nonovan was traded from the Cardinals two days ago for a whole of prospects and picks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And your eyes still look puffy from all the crime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Logically, it's one of those decisions in baseball, but like it makes sense, he's 28 years old.
1:37
[SPEAKER_00]: He's still got arbitration years left by the time they're ready to compete.
1:42
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be 31 getting a contract extension.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that tells the whole story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's difficult to trade a club out of leader and a player that
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[SPEAKER_00]: did everything the right way, played the game the right way like I understand it from a business perspective and a business move.
1:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think sometimes that's always the best practice in reality.
2:05
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see obviously I think it's one of those where it's going to take two or three years and see these prospects in St. Louis before you can really I think past judgment on the trade
2:20
[SPEAKER_00]: then immediately after a train to grade it, I think it takes some time to kind of let it settle before baseball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm excited to see what other cardinal steam goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're going to be worth the shit this year to be quite honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're going to be really good for a few years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, we all know who's winning the central anyway.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's yeah, any reds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I know that's not too bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to talk about, but I do think that we do need to have some Geno Suarez conversation before we're done today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's talk about all this other stuff here coming up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We need to talk about the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Craig, I've already said a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got a lot more to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First, what do you want to know?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Last time we talked to you, we're pretty
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the only people that give a shit about this Super Bowl live in New England or the Pacific Northwest, I don't think America cares.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The media hype and conversation around that's been low.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I can't get up for this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really, I have just no interest in watching this game and all I kind of wish this season was just over rather than after watching these two teams play.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's going to be a good game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be a good game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then I don't really care who wins very much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember thinking that often in Super Bowl's, but I do think it's going to be a good game.
3:52
[SPEAKER_03]: And it'll be interesting going forward that will we look back at this later and say, hey, Drake may became this or oh, Sam Donald became that or, you know, maybe it's more
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be, I would say that if I'm rooting for a team, it's probably the seahawks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't like the Patriots too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think they're a great representative before the AFC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I don't think they really deserve to be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've gotten a lot of breaks go their way in this playoff run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get that love plays a role in it, but it just doesn't feel right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're the third best team in the AFC.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they're not a single team, but they're pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they will get exposed for not being a Super Bowl team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing that is unfortunate is they're playing against an offense that while they have performed incredibly well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the playoffs, I'm not sure that they're great either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, it's been, that's just how this year's gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's any team that's like, just out of this world incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and we're going to have to pay the price for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be a relatively low scoring game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be kind of KG, a lot of defense in this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think special teams will play a big role in terms of field position, ability to convert long field goals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of like the C-hawks in that regard, because I really like Jason Myers as their kicker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the weather is going to be fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be in San Francisco.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be comfortable football weather.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that you're going to have to expect a ton of extra curriculars the way that you saw on the AFC championship.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Greg, you never know a northern California in the winter, but you're right, probably good weather.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be rainy, it could be cloudy, but it's going to be comfortable to say the least.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Number one, I'm sure you've thought a little bit about the game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's a key to watch and who's gonna be the Super Bowl MVP?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My key to watch is going to be Seattle's defensive front seven against Drake may.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's where if the Seahawks can get to May and make him uncomfortable early, and often I don't think that the Patriots have any chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Seahawks offense is better than the Patriots, but they're going to rely on that defense to get stops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Seattle's front four has been probably the best front for the entire year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really love him as their left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was drafted way too high for his physical make up and trades.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been okay, but this play off around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just kind of been exposed a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I expect Seattle's defensive line to make Drake may awfully uncomfortable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Super Bowl MVP.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm that's not Donald I'm probably going to say Jackson Smith and Jacob if I had to go somebody because I think the seawks are going to win and a non-corderback has to play awfully well to get it but I think if there is a wider receiver that is worthy of it based on how we performed so far this year I think Jackson Smith and Jacob could get his hand on an MBK trophy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he may be the best receiver in the league.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said that about halfway through the season, and you kind of mocked me, but he might be the best.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when it comes to route free, when it comes to athleticism, I completely agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know who else is really, really good?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Will?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He'll.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Christian Gonzalez.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that I'm interested to see how new England matches up there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure they're going to shadow him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine that Gonzales will be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a lot, but Smith and Jacob is calling card is that he's able to play both the slot and out wide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if they don't want the Christian Gonzalez match up, I think the C Ups are going to be able to kind of exploit the Patriots linebackers who while are athletic, I just don't think they're good enough to cover Smith and Jacob.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I expect him to feast because I thank Kubeak is thinking the exact same thing I'm thinking where
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we can avoid the confrontation and in the playing 60% of the game against Gonzalez, we're going to do that, especially when we've got Cooper Cup who can also go outside anybody really for that matter, just bring JS in into the slot, bring them inside the tackles, make them play that way, and I think Seattle's going to be awfully successful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Gonzalez is more than just a shutdown corner.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is a playmaker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I like about him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think here's what I see happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could be completely wrong because I've been completely wrong this entire postseason, but I think it's going to be completely defensive game and I think it's going to be
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of running and so there's going to be a lot of running clock.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're going to see a, I don't know, 7, 3, 10, 7, half times score, like 1, he's 17, 17, 13, something in there, final score.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of a lot of thinking too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I like variable a little bit in the matchup head to head.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think he's going to devise a scheme that involves Christian Gonzalez being the playmaker that makes the difference in this
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the first time I think this postseason we've disagreed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It might be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a toss up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just man for man, you probably take Seattle, but I just have a feeling the Patriots are going to make the plays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of been what they've done all year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're really fallacy and believing that they have that capability because they obviously do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think this is where the horse is run right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've had a lot of breaks go their way in terms of really poor quarterback play that they've been forced to play against their offense has been incredibly inefficient and Drake may, really has not played well at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Outside being able to scramble, I just think that that catches up.
10:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really hard to play with full school that long
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[SPEAKER_00]: got.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not, I don't trust the page where it's off into it all, especially again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the C Hawks have played two of the, what do you want to say?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably six teams that we thought had the best chance to win the Super Bowl and.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say the Patriots, the only team of the three that they've beat that I think we both thought had any chance of winning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was probably the Broncos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think in terms of Houston and Chargers, for my list, I had the Patriots, it's like the least likely to win and then I had the Texans and the Chargers right above them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they've gotten the benefit of the playing the lower caliber teams that were in place.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There is zero question, they're probably the luckiest team in the history of the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were lucky.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then entire year, their schedule, they were playing against gendered guys, they were all kinds of stuff went their way, and they even got more absurd in the postseason.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no question they lucked their way right into the Super Bowl, but that doesn't mean they're not going to win it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Greg one player that I want you to keep an eye on for the Patriots for Super Bowl MVP is Christian Ellis their linebacker because I didn't get if they win he's going to have a huge game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a good call.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Alright well I'm going officially 21 20 Patriots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going 27 16 C-Ox.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're still thinking about the same, even though the, so it's going to be a blow out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be a blow out now, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it'll be 35 to, can C-Ox, probably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's a blow out the C-Ox one, the Patriots are not blowing the C-Ox.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's any way that's happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Unless Darnal grows six picks, which is, you know, you can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We watched him do it last year in the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Greg, we kind of briefly handed out in the first like three minutes, but I would like to break down this, bring it down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been trade a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that the Mariners are a team that you kind of I think rude for for a while outside of the reds if you had an AL team it would be the Mariners and I think Greg the Mariners got their missing piece.
12:46
[SPEAKER_00]: They got the player that is going to elevate them to another level that while they made the divisional series last year, I just.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they made the ALCS, didn't they?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Brock, the Mariners made the ALS.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners went to the ALCS last year, and I still think they're a raw stride room for improvement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Britain's Ottoman is the type of player that elevate your franchise and your roster.
13:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's somebody that you build around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a great supplemental piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to give you probably 285.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to give you 15 home runs, 75 RBIs, be a good on-base guy, able to play six positions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a little player's ball player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to fall in love with how hard he plays, how he hustles, the long flowing hair, matter the helmet, helmets, always going to be flyin' off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I expect him to have 40 doubles in that stadium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just handcrafted for his swing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a right field line power type guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're the Mariners, I think regardless of what you gave up, you have to be absolutely a static to add that and that versatility in your lineup.
14:00
[SPEAKER_00]: The Cardinals, they kind of get another pitching prospect at Top 100 Prospect, the Switch pitcher said, Hintay, I believe, is his last name, how it's pronounced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's from Kira-Sau, he's a very intriguing prospect in terms of his ability to throw from both way.
14:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to throw predominantly from the right side this year, maybe exclusively from the right side.
14:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Greg, I I see the the rest of their pieces is guys that have an opportunity to probably make a roster.
14:29
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to get to comp be picks out of this trade in the mid to late 30s and 40s or where the second round picks are going to build from and I think that this is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: indicative of the St. Louis Cardinals kind of turning the page and saying, we're in full rebuild mode.
14:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of expected it and they kind of needed to do it.
14:50
[SPEAKER_00]: It's unfortunate for me as Brinnoneman is my favorite Cardinal ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will just go ahead and say that and a team full of incredible athletes that have performed over the course of my life.
15:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He definitely takes the cake.
15:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious to see how this roster performs.
15:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they might be the worst 40-man roster in the MLB and they're the number two pipeline in the lead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that could make for an exciting year.
15:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I think JJ weatherhold is the real deal, time will tell.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of farm watching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is going to be a lot of farm watching.
15:28
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when cardinal teams are designed to be bad, they seem to be good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, maybe for whatever reason, this roster just finds a way to get the job done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think what could be considered a relatively competitive, but weaker and else in Troy.
15:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a lot of good teams.
15:48
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no great teams, but Greg, one team I do want to talk about.
15:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a really good sighting for them to be quite honest with you and that's the reds and they're you and you as far as being reunited.
16:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you have to like this one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's probably a good trade.
16:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I just can't stand guys who strike out that much.
16:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Just can't stand it.
16:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
16:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I see that as a fan, like I, you can see the frustration when you just look at those areas when they didn't score a run.
16:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And he left about 48 runners on base.
16:24
[SPEAKER_03]: That was the last for me in Suarez.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I can't stand it.
16:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he's one of those
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[SPEAKER_00]: is able to, and, and playing in a ballpark where he's going to have a great hit or friendly opportunity for 81 games, I expect him to hit 40 homeruns again, it 49 between the Diamondbacks and the Mariners, I expect that to continue.
16:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the analytics do them just as I don't think they serve as impact.
16:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I think just having a bat and that line up that kind of needs power.
16:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you can say that there was a weakness of that red team last year, it was their inability to hit home runs.
17:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And now they have that.
17:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that line up is awfully intriguing what they'll accrues Matt McLean going to be back healthy for an entire year.
17:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you like to see Spencer steer continue to develop.
17:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, Greg.
17:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this red team might, they might be the best team in the NL central on paper now with the brewer's trading Freddie Perlta.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're right.
17:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I think if Matt McLean is 25 Matt McLean, there's a huge question mark about whether that's true, but a year of recovery, if he's anywhere near what I expect, I think the reds can win the central.
17:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this team is one of those that is going to be trying to buy an outfield bat at the trade deadline.
17:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody that we're going to get a lot of power from, I kind of did too.
18:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I expect them to maybe address that in free agency.
18:08
[SPEAKER_00]: My caveat to the reds being the best team in the central is if this pirates team can generate any offense whatsoever, I think they're pitching staff is top three in the league probably in terms of their starting rotation and they have the best picture in the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, it's a possibility.
18:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's absurd at all that the pirates are good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They have a couple of bats in that lineup, so if you get a couple more, it might be good
18:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
18:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, the cubs will be good again, probably.
18:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I expect them to compete.
18:42
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see with that Kyle Tucker, him departing how they look at Pete Cromstrone was damn here on playable.
18:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And the last half of the season after he went in Fuego there and before the all star break, I think Suzuki.
18:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You like his fat and perspective.
19:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Dan's be Nico Warner, like, you know, they've got, they have the talent to be awfully competitive.
19:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the cardinals on paper are probably the fifth best team.
19:12
[SPEAKER_00]: They're probably the worst team in the division.
19:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And I expect the other four to be competing to win the division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And possibly a wild card spot.
19:21
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what that means, right?
19:23
[SPEAKER_03]: the burrs are under one division.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, the cardinals are going to win the division.
19:27
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why they always do perform when I expect them to be no good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Every time I think, I'll finally, the cardinals aren't going to be good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Get rid of our pools, all they're finally going to be not good.
19:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, no, they're always always good.
19:45
[SPEAKER_00]: They might have been better after Pooval's left than they were with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were.
19:50
[SPEAKER_03]: It was what I mean.
19:54
[SPEAKER_03]: You think they're going to get worse and they don't.
19:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Good managing does that.
19:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know about if they have good managing now, but they have had through the years for sure.
20:03
[SPEAKER_00]: They did a great job of developing pitching too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of pitching talent came out of that cardinal s organization for the 2010s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, that's stopped now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll see.
20:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it'll improve.
20:16
[SPEAKER_00]: They've gotten a lot of arms.
20:17
[SPEAKER_00]: They've acquired a lot of arms.
20:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I hope you've found enough shit at the wall that it stuck.
20:23
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you've had a couple of frontline startersmithing forward.
20:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is going to be a little bit of how our new podcast is going to go.
20:36
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to make a lot of predictions and see who's right going forward.
20:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Do the Pacers make a major trade, meaning anybody who made plays a significant role on these two.
20:51
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think they do.
20:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they just told the fort down.
20:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if they make a movement to the offices and I don't expect them to do anything right now.
20:59
[SPEAKER_00]: The only player that I see them potentially trying to get would be like Walker Kessler from the jazz.
21:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I think somebody that could could be in play if they do decide to make a deadline trade.
21:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Greg asked why I've Doyle of the indie star decided to put out in the Pacers were targeting
21:21
[SPEAKER_00]: How does that guy have a fucking job?
21:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it.
21:25
[SPEAKER_00]: How many times do you have to just be a proctor in the job?
21:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying that.
21:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Being well, I've been saying the same thing.
21:32
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the perfect fit.
21:33
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the perfect marriage of what the bucks need and what the Pacers would want, but it's just never gonna happen.
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it will either, but if that tunnel rats sniffed it out, I guess there has to be some validity to it to me.
21:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I really, I think that there has to be some truth.
21:51
[SPEAKER_03]: He would immediately be the greatest player we've ever had.
21:55
[SPEAKER_00]: He would also immediately make that team the best team to use next year, like with out, like if they don't win the finals.
22:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
22:05
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, next question, does James Harden make the Cavaliers better or worse?
22:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I see going to get off the plane.
22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, he said he's excited about it.
22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that they're going to get worse to be quite honest with you.
22:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's so difficult, though, because it's Garland with his injury history, how productive was he going to continue to be?
22:31
[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting to me that they're going to marry to incredibly balldom and at guards and not in hardened and hardened.
22:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw the 1980s, man, you can't do that.
22:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I struggle to see where that's going to vote well for them.
22:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And since last season, Milwaukee and Cleveland, I think have just completely sabotaged themselves.
22:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the bucks.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: They did the pace.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a favor in a couple of ways by signing mile starter at.
23:05
[SPEAKER_00]: The Pacers, that's what they've done, they kill teams.
23:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they got Tom Tibbiddo fired.
23:11
[SPEAKER_00]: They come, you know, got the next to completely kind of rebuild how they used their roster and the roster stayed relatively the same, but they had to change.
23:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
23:23
[SPEAKER_00]: They've now killed the calves in a year that everybody thought the calves were the golden child of the NBA.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Never did.
23:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I never did think that they were as good as the Pacers were on paper and that was per one.
23:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I did.
23:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought they were going to win the East.
23:41
[SPEAKER_03]: They've just still could the Pacers stole their soul.
23:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I that's that's what this team is done that that is exactly what they've done.
23:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me tell you well, if they can land Booser or Wilson or to Bonta in particular, because they would fit in so well with why they need but also Peterson.
24:03
[SPEAKER_03]: it would.
24:07
[SPEAKER_03]: We could have the glory days of the patients and it was.
24:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Does my question, I just don't, I don't think that Peterson elevates this roster much further than where it's at now to me, that's one of those.
24:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Eventually he does.
24:22
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a friend.
24:23
[SPEAKER_03]: He's cornerstone place.
24:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not.
24:26
[SPEAKER_00]: this team is built to win now with the contracts.
24:29
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not built to win in five years.
24:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they need somebody that compliment and earned him hard to compliment Aaron DeSmith and see how him knows her will only be 19, but let me tell you, man, he is ready right now.
24:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a grown-ass man.
24:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I told, I think that I still think he is going to be the best player from this draft class.
24:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I love more like very few.
24:49
[SPEAKER_03]: He makes all the right plays.
24:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Sweet stroke.
24:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
24:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It also runs the floor.
24:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Play slowly.
24:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, does it all, man?
24:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Does it all, but Wilson sealing off the charts?
25:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Off the charts.
25:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I would.
25:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I would really like if this pace or steam got like the third pick.
25:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think they'd be sitting in the driver's seat to get a canvas or who honestly is who they probably need or to bounce a little and no matter what it is, it's a win, I think.
25:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's right now you just throw them in a hat and pick one out.
25:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're all three.
25:24
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a great draft class to have a top five pick.
25:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope they get the one number one picture they can have there run in the letter, whoever Kevin, Richard, thanks is the best player for this organization.
25:38
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I hope that they're able to get by, but I'd be happy with any of them.
25:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Other than Peterson, who is I probably the best talent.
25:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just not worth as worried as much about talent.
25:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I think in this iteration of the Pacers as I am, who can play next year?
25:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I completely agree with you, but if they end up with Darren Peterson, I don't even be really excited.
26:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
26:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Last question, Indie Carr and Washington DC, this summer will be a success.
26:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it will.
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that,
26:16
[SPEAKER_00]: They made strategic moves over the last five years to benefit tracks that help complement the series to the best of its ability.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I expect that they've decided that this is the right move for them.
26:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really interested to see how it their race looks.
26:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, it'll be the first time they've run it.
26:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're going to have to do something almost a level to playing field from below, because I'm just not sure there's a driver in the circuit.
26:41
[SPEAKER_03]: The playing field is so level by the cars that you just whatever happens happens, man.
26:46
[SPEAKER_03]: he's just that good.
26:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but, you know, Elijah and I have talked about this on the end of the court, his dominance he was in wins, almost every single one of those races was really competitive.
26:57
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, I expect that you're, I think Scotty Max going to have a big rebound year.
27:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was strange that he wasn't kind of in the full more than he was last year.
27:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I expect just a new garden to also perform much better.
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who's to you who is the the guy waiting trying to throw in pillow.
27:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably patto award would be my guess.
27:23
[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of who I think too.
27:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I think they're several.
27:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that.
27:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Polo's just that damn good.
27:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree, and let's watch it.
27:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm here for it.
27:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here for it.
27:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here for it.
27:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm shocked.
27:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He's still here.
27:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not.
27:44
[SPEAKER_00]: He would absolutely have been in Formula One by now.
27:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But that just goes to show how worthless a series that is.
27:51
[SPEAKER_03]: It is so worthless, will.
27:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, stage 22 is serving meatloaf.
27:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm out of here.
27:59
[SPEAKER_00]: This gets in gravy at the Creek side Chateau, so I'm out of here too.
28:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
28:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Happy dining everybody.
28:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks so much, Will.
28:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
28:07
[SPEAKER_00]: See you guys.
28:34
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